Re: [QtExtended] some things
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I also note that Lorn's been completely silent for the past 24 hours. I wonder if this is because he's (finally!) realised that he's been digging a hole for himself, or if it's just because he got pwned once again... Or perhaps he took my advice (yeah, right!) and spoke to his boss about it, and his boss said ARE YOU *INSANE*?!?!? HOW COULD YOU POST THAT FROM YOUR TROLLTECH ADDRESS?!?!?!?! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJwJeWFbVnQRV3OEYRAnd7AKChMds4wmfaBl9o1J3pBe+BOS5xfQCdGsF+ 7/VhnhkCcQS6BEi1ULF2kpY= =x3A1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline
Daniel Willmann wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:18:23 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: [...] It was just to be safe. The documentation states that you might not get a fix _at all_ if either position or time is outside the claimed accuracy. Now, maybe it works with 3km anyway after the fixes that prevents the chip-crashing exception. I happen to live about 6km away from where I work, so 9km was a nice safe value. The default is 300km, and 100km allows a more optimistic startup. Perhaps such rough estimates is all that is needed, if it is only used to figure which satellites that can be seen. If you don't mind testing please try changing pacc to 100km and see if it affects TTFF adversely in your case. If not we could just use that as a default. Shouldn't be too hard to test. I think I know one side of having accurate pacc: The first fix can happen with only two satellites. I have seen this happen several times. It surprised me at first, but it makes sense. With two satellites (and a reasonable clock), you get a big circle of possible positions. But then there is the data from the approximate position. It puts you at some height above sea level. The big circle intersects the earth surface at some angle, so with height, we now have two possible spots instead of a big circle. Usually, only one spot will be close to the approximate position, so that is where you are. That is an optimistic startup scenario. A too spread out pacc means both possible spots are within pacc range, and the FR will have to wait for a third satellite to break the tie. If you travel a long way and still report the old position with a fake precision pacc, then you might be close to the other of the two possible satellite-based positions. You could then get a fake fix on the wrong spot. As you and/or the satellites move, the wrong spot will move around in strange ways at strange speeds. When more satellites show up, the device might get really confused if it keeps trusting the approximate position. Perhaps even rejecting them as reflected signals for a while. Of course, only the manufacturer will know the exact details of what might happen. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner ships with unsupported release? Why?
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 03:52:51 Ron K. Jeffries wrote: The Wiki says, in part: Choosing a distribution Official/current. As of December 2008, the phones ship with Om 2007.2 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2007.2. It is not supported by Openmoko Inc. anymore. The branch currently supported by Openmoko Inc. is Om 2008.12 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.12_Update ~~ I'm puzzled why OpenMoko ships phones with a distribution that's no longer supported. --- Ron K. Jeffries A friend of mine received his revA6 Freerunner in January and afaik it was shipped wirth Om2008.x. Because of the boot time I believe it was 2008.12 but I haven't seen it myself... He just told me about the black illume theme. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Freerunner ships with unsupported release? Why?
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 03:52:51 Ron K. Jeffries wrote: The Wiki says, in part: Choosing a distribution Official/current. As of December 2008, the phones ship with Om 2007.2 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2007.2. It is not supported by Openmoko Inc. anymore. The branch currently supported by Openmoko Inc. is Om 2008.12 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.12_Update ~~ I'm puzzled why OpenMoko ships phones with a distribution that's no longer supported. --- Ron K. Jeffries A friend of mine received his revA6 Freerunner in January and afaik it was shipped wirth Om2008.x. Because of the boot time I believe it was 2008.12 but I haven't seen it myself... He just told me about the black illume theme. If he didnt tell you about the initial harsh ping, then for sure it wasn't Om 2007.x ;-) regards Juan Lucas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Terminal
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hello. The only time I have seen the JamVM (Java) crash on Om 2008.9, I also saw the 'Segmentation fault' error message. If that ever happens again, is there somewhere in the phone a log file that I might send to the list? Hi Juan, 'Segmentation fault' is very generic error. It can mean e.g. that program writes data to wrong memory place. Your problem is not related to QtExtended Terminal, it's related to JavaVM. You can use gdb and talk to JamVM authors if you want debug this. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
Do you mean the snapbuild 20090316? If it's true, then we have to work on a new patch. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, xChris ch...@c-64.mobi wrote: Hi, Is it fixed on the lates (13/6) improved release? I just re-flashed my Freerunner, but the mediaplayer cannot play the *.oga (*.ogg are not recognized).. TIA chris Btw i am wondering why all the binaries at http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ are dated to 05-Mar-2009. E.g. the ogg patches are of newer date. So is everybody really using the latest binaries? Do you Chris have the QTerminal in your applications? It would be nice to have e.g. git revision written somewhere during build so that it can be viewed in System Info application. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QtExtended] Terminal
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: Hello. The only time I have seen the JamVM (Java) crash on Om 2008.9, I also saw the 'Segmentation fault' error message. If that ever happens again, is there somewhere in the phone a log file that I might send to the list? Hi Juan, 'Segmentation fault' is very generic error. It can mean e.g. that program writes data to wrong memory place. Your problem is not related to QtExtended Terminal, it's related to JavaVM. You can use gdb and talk to JamVM authors if you want debug this. Radek Ok, thanks Juan Lucas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
Radek, you should try one of the snapshots, located at http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/ It looks like you are using the 'released' version, without the patches (which are in snapshot builds only). Cheers, Filip. On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:43:07 +0100, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Do you mean the snapbuild 20090316? If it's true, then we have to work on a new patch. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, xChris ch...@c-64.mobi wrote: Hi, Is it fixed on the lates (13/6) improved release? I just re-flashed my Freerunner, but the mediaplayer cannot play the *.oga (*.ogg are not recognized).. TIA chris Btw i am wondering why all the binaries at http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ are dated to 05-Mar-2009. E.g. the ogg patches are of newer date. So is everybody really using the latest binaries? Do you Chris have the QTerminal in your applications? It would be nice to have e.g. git revision written somewhere during build so that it can be viewed in System Info application. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
Radek Polak wrote: It would be nice to have e.g. git revision written somewhere during build so that it can be viewed in System Info application. Just noticed there is build date in System Info applicatin. Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Do you mean the snapbuild 20090316? If it's true, then we have to work on a new patch. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, xChris ch...@c-64.mobi wrote: Hi, Is it fixed on the lates (13/6) improved release? I just re-flashed my Freerunner, but the mediaplayer cannot play the *.oga (*.ogg are not recognized).. TIA chris Btw i am wondering why all the binaries at http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ are dated to 05-Mar-2009. E.g. the ogg patches are of newer date. So is everybody really using the latest binaries? Do you Chris have the QTerminal in your applications? It would be nice to have e.g. git revision written somewhere during build so that it can be viewed in System Info application. Radek the binaries are from March 5th, but in the dir http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/ you can then find updated qtextended tarballs. Copy that one to the freerunner, extract over the current qtextended version and restart qtopia (or reboot). See http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved and http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/wiki/SnapBuilds Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko
hi Bill, Thanks for the feedback; 0.2 will include, amongst other exciting new features, libswt3.4-gtk-jni as an explicit dependency. Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/17 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: I have the same on shr-testing - wasnt installed by default with the other packages so should be a dependency somewhere. BillK On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 13:44 +, Joseph Reeves wrote: Hi Yorick, Glad you got it to work! libswt3.4-gtk-jni is a dependency of libswt3.4-gtk-java, so that would get understandably upset without it. We don't specify that you must have ibswt3.4-gtk-jni as it is (usually) installed when you install the specified libswt3.4-gtk-java. I can explicitly add it to the dependency list of the next version to make sure we don't have this problem again. Cheers, Joseph 2009/3/17 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: it seems my phone is java enabled...i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -cp go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class I installed the new version of gvsig and now i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Log file: /usr/share/gv-om/log/1237295403472.gvsig-mobile.log.txt java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3428 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:233) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Library.loadLibrary(Library.java:151) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.C.clinit(C.java:21) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:63) at org.eclipse.swt.internal.Converter.wcsToMbcs(Converter.java:54) at org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.clinit(Display.java:128) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.GvsigMobileApp.execute(GvsigMobileApp.java:100) at es.prodevelop.gvsig.mobile.app.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:129) so i installed libswt3.4-gtk-jni and now it works it didn't work without that file y On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello Yorick. I understand then that your phone is not Java-enabled right now? Can you copy the attached 'go.jar' to your phone and type from the same folder: jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go This what I get: r...@om-gta02:~# jamvm -cp ./go.jar org.test.go Hello class: java.lang.Class r...@om-gta02:~# What do you get? Regards, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio --- Prodevelop SL, Valencia (España) 0° 22' 49.62 W, 39° 28' 25.45 N Tlf.: 96.351.06.12 -- Fax: 96.351.09.68 http://www.prodevelop.es --- -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org on behalf of Yorick Moko Sent: Mon 16/03/2009 18:26 To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko thanks for your help, but i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install cacao -force-depends Installing cacao (0.99.3-r5.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/cacao_0.99.3-r5.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Installing classpath-common (0.97.2-r8.1) to root... Downloading http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/openmoko/armv4t/classpath-common_0.97.2-r8.1_armv4t.ipk Configuring cacao update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/java to /usr/bin/cacao Configuring classpath Configuring classpath-common Collected errors: * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for cacao: * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * libgcc-s1 (= 4.1.2) * r...@om-gta02 ~ $ cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/car Absurd stack bottom value Aborted btw: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed |grep libgcc libgcc1 - 4.1.2-r19 - On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello, Yorick, You can also try cacao: opkg install cacao then: cacao -Xmx40M -cp /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card Regsrd, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Yorick Moko Enviado el: lun 16/03/2009 17:45 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko still nobody getting (on shr-testing) the following error? r...@om-gta02 /etc/init.d $ DISPLAY=:0 gvsig Stopping freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: stopped process in pidfile '/var/run/fso-gpsd.pid' (pid 1442) (done) Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: (ok) Exception occurred while VM initialising. java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Class using the terminal command I found in these e-mails i also get the same error: r...@om-gta02
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
Hi, I meant the 16/3 !!! (the 13/6 was a typo! sorry!!!) I used the jffs2 from [1] but everytime I update with the latest binaries from [2]. When the ogg file has the extension .oga, (it has a mediaplayer icon) I cannot play it, as the system says 'the media system is not configured to handle this request'. If I rename it as .ogg, its not recognized as audio/media file. [1]http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ [2]http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/wiki/SnapBuilds -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Anyone-have-ogg-support-in-qt-extended-4.4.3---tp2455815p2496504.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt extended stops receiving sms
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Glen Ogilvie wrote: I've been having a problem with QT Extended not receiving txt messages. Well after having this work for ages I rebooted my phone today after being told I'd been SMS'd in the morning and received nothing and found 4 new SMS's turn up over the past 10 days! This is with 4.4.2 - hoping to finally upgrade to 4.4.3 tonight! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, arne anka wrote: well, it fits the wet dreams of germany's current top terrorists hunter (register everyone who buys a sim card) -- and there are no numbers mentioned of abuse. In 2003 our local telco monopoly released numbers show about 70% of emergency calls were not real - so about 7 million false calls to 000 (the Australian emergency number) in *Melbourne* each year. That's getting on for 2 per head of population. That includes hoaxes, mistakes, fax machines (yes, really), unlocked mobiles pocket-dialing 000, school kids, people calling 000 to report a car blocking their drive because their local police station went to an answer phone, etc.. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote: did you built it yourself or are you using binary from somewhere? I think he's using the latest (as I write) snapbuild from here: http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/wiki/SnapBuilds -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Dale Maggee wrote: Personal insults are completely valid and infact necessary when someone provokes me by lying to me and/or being an idiot. I'm sorry but I disagree entirely, if you have to resort to that then you have already lost the argument. Now will both of you please take this flame war to private email where it belongs. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
and.. btw, I do have the qterminal on my application list ! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Anyone-have-ogg-support-in-qt-extended-4.4.3---tp2455815p2496513.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote: did you built it yourself or are you using binary from somewhere? I think he's using the latest (as I write) snapbuild from here: http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/wiki/SnapBuilds -- Well, this one is for sure echo free: qt-extended-improved-bin-only-20090313-echo-fix.tar.gzhttp://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/qt-extended-improved-bin-only-20090313-echo-fix.tar.gz but I haven't tried qt-extended-improved-bin-only-20090316.tar.gzhttp://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/qt-extended-improved-bin-only-20090316.tar.gzyet Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, xChris wrote: When the ogg file has the extension .oga, (it has a mediaplayer icon) I cannot play it, as the system says 'the media system is not configured to handle this request' That's a generic error message in QtopiaMediaProvider::createSession() which results from any error in the call to: QMediaServerSession*mediaSession = d-sessionManager-createSession(request); Unfortunately I'm not a C++ programmer so I'm pretty much lost after that point! If I rename it as .ogg, its not recognized as audio/media file. That's bizzare - according to qtopia/etc/mime.types we have: audio/ogg oga audio/ogg+vorbisogg and the Tremor Ogg plugin appears to register itself as knowing about audio/ogg+vorbis by doing this: d-mimeTypes audio/ogg+vorbis; The desktop file for the media player should now make it believe it can handle both audio/ogg and audio/ogg+vorbis. So I would have thought it would recognise audio/ogg and audio/ogg+vorbis as audio files and, if anything, not be able to handle a .oga file by handle the .ogg files (as the MIME types match). Perhaps the second part is why the error occurs ? Very very peculiar! I'm out of ideas for now - anyone else ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
hear hear - take it elsewhere. That said, having had involvement in a similar situation elsewhere, it's always emotional when a project moves from a closed pool of developers into the an open source model. Exactly the same issues and accusations. 2009/3/18 Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org: On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Dale Maggee wrote: Personal insults are completely valid and infact necessary when someone provokes me by lying to me and/or being an idiot. I'm sorry but I disagree entirely, if you have to resort to that then you have already lost the argument. Now will both of you please take this flame war to private email where it belongs. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 kimaidou ha scritto: Oups, sorry I just had not thought there was some help ! Thanks a lot, it works well. I think you should package it into an simple ipk file, and put it on opkg.org http://opkg.org, so that everybody can enjoy it ! Yeah, could anyone package it? :) It'll be very useful! Anyway thanks a lot Thanks from me :) - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknA9gkACgkQRi2TsGSC4FYbewCePB5AlsWfsp8viOD/II0szuMD +pgAoKovvSBkwVNI1BRoO5Bcd1K3RwAc =331i -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?
thanks for the snippet! but imho the best (and proper) way would be to create an illume action (not external script) so it could be assignable to a shortcut On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Francesco de Virgilio wrote: kimaidou ha scritto: Oups, sorry I just had not thought there was some help ! Thanks a lot, it works well. I think you should package it into an simple ipk file, and put it on opkg.org http://opkg.org, so that everybody can enjoy it ! Yeah, could anyone package it? :) It'll be very useful! Anyway thanks a lot Thanks from me :) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote: did you built it yourself or are you using binary from somewhere? I think he's using the latest (as I write) snapbuild from here: http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/wiki/SnapBuilds Yep that's right - I'm using qt-extended-improved-bin-only-20090316.tar.gz Well, this one is for sure echo free: qt-extended-improved-bin-only-20090313-echo-fix.tar.gz but I haven't tried qt-extended-improved-bin-only-20090316.tar.gz yet -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Erik Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
On Mar 18, 2009, at 04:28 , Chris Samuel wrote: On Wednesday 18 March 2009, arne anka wrote: well, it fits the wet dreams of germany's current top terrorists hunter (register everyone who buys a sim card) -- and there are no numbers mentioned of abuse. In 2003 our local telco monopoly released numbers show about 70% of emergency calls were not real - so about 7 million false calls to 000 (the Australian emergency number) in *Melbourne* each year. That's getting on for 2 per head of population. That includes hoaxes, mistakes, fax machines (yes, really), unlocked mobiles pocket-dialing 000, school kids, people calling 000 to report a car blocking their drive because their local police station went to an answer phone, etc. Hmmm...I wonder how much of that could be avoided by choosing something like 911 or 909 or (as stated on the TV show IT Crowd) 0118 999 881 999 119 7253 :) instead of 3 consecutive presses of the most exposed digit on the phone keypad. It's a lot harder to keypad mash those than just 000. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
O Venres, 6 de Marzo de 2009, Dylan Reilly escribiu: correctly? If not then the package is corrupt. The package I uploaded to opgk.org is fine. If it got corrupted somewhere in the stream I Is there any other place where to download latest pythm opk? opk.org's package is still corrupted, and I cannot find it elsewhere Thank you very much! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline
Am Mi 18. März 2009 schrieb Helge Hafting: Daniel Willmann wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:18:23 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: [...] It was just to be safe. The documentation states that you might not get a fix _at all_ if either position or time is outside the claimed accuracy. Now, maybe it works with 3km anyway after the fixes that prevents the chip-crashing exception. I happen to live about 6km away from where I work, so 9km was a nice safe value. The default is 300km, and 100km allows a more optimistic startup. Perhaps such rough estimates is all that is needed, if it is only used to figure which satellites that can be seen. If you don't mind testing please try changing pacc to 100km and see if it affects TTFF adversely in your case. If not we could just use that as a default. Shouldn't be too hard to test. I think I know one side of having accurate pacc: The first fix can happen with only two satellites. I have seen this happen several times. It surprised me at first, but it makes sense. With two satellites (and a reasonable clock), you get a big circle of possible positions. But then there is the data from the approximate position. It puts you at some height above sea level. The big circle intersects the earth surface at some angle, so with height, we now have two possible spots instead of a big circle. Usually, only one spot will be close to the approximate position, so that is where you are. That is an optimistic startup scenario. A too spread out pacc means both possible spots are within pacc range, and the FR will have to wait for a third satellite to break the tie. If you travel a long way and still report the old position with a fake precision pacc, then you might be close to the other of the two possible satellite-based positions. You could then get a fake fix on the wrong spot. As you and/or the satellites move, the wrong spot will move around in strange ways at strange speeds. When more satellites show up, the device might get really confused if it keeps trusting the approximate position. Perhaps even rejecting them as reflected signals for a while. Of course, only the manufacturer will know the exact details of what might happen. Helge Hafting Wow, I had to read your posting twice to get how brilliant this analysis is. cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
About Mplayer ´s sou rce code for openmok o
Hi all. I need to develop an application in wich one i must control mplayer. I´m looking for mplayer´s source code for openmoko. I´d like to know if anyone knows where can I find it. Furthermore, I'd like to know if there are APIs in mplayer source code to control it easier. Thanks in advance! _ Chatea sin límites en Messenger con la tarifa plana de Orange http://serviciosmoviles.es.msn.com/messenger/orange.aspx___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: About Mplayer ´s source code for op enmoko
Antonio Fraga Ledesma wrote: Hi all. I need to develop an application in wich one i must control mplayer. I´m looking for mplayer´s source code for openmoko. I´d like to know if anyone knows where can I find it. Furthermore, I'd like to know if there are APIs in mplayer source code to control it easier. Do you know the slave mode of mplayer ? http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/control.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fennec Beta 1 Released
I can't wait to see how this is on the Freerunner. I tried a version some months ago, but it was to slow to be worthwhile. It sounds like there are a lot of speedups in this version. http://blog.pavlov.net/2009/03/17/fennec-1-beta-1/ http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0b1/releasenotes/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:27:58AM -0800, Ben Hussey wrote: I can't wait to see how this is on the Freerunner. I tried a version some months ago, but it was to slow to be worthwhile. It sounds like there are a lot of speedups in this version. http://blog.pavlov.net/2009/03/17/fennec-1-beta-1/ http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0b1/releasenotes/ Does it have a sane compile process already? Or is it still the hell on drugs that I last saw (which was fairly recent)? For what I see, it's much better to work on midori's UI, making a midori-moko package or going further down and just making a simple UI with webkit and others (but maybe it's more work than worth it). Don't claim I'm wrong, prove it! A decent build process example: ./configure make make install An acceptable one could be: edit a configuration file make install Rui -- This statement is false. Today is Boomtime, the 4th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
howto qt 4.5 with qtextended 4.4.3
http://yasmar.net/qtopia/Using%20Qt%20Extended%204.4%20with%20Qt%204.5.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtextended] a wishlist
Hi, Hereby some missing things that should get (fixed) in qtextended (or call it a wishlist I you like): 1) mp3 support on the openmoko wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qt_Extended_4.4.3, I found the following link for libmad and qtextended: http://radagast.bglug.ca/openmoko/qt-extended-4.4.3-libmad.tar.gz Is this patch still valid? 2) some kind of working gps support See http://www.onkelinx.com/qtopia.on.neo/?page_id=4 or navit, tangogps, ... ? 3) working alarm 4) google contact sync See http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=2 5) working voice notes recording (see my bugreport http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/9, any hints on getting this fixed are much appreciated ...) 6) 2.6.28 support It seems a very reasonable and doable list to me (1 and 3 were being worked on, 4 seems doable, 5 just needs a fix, 6 is a must later on). Any comments, hints, tips? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] a wishlist
On 19/03/2009, at 6:14 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Hi, Hereby some missing things that should get (fixed) in qtextended (or call it a wishlist I you like): 1) mp3 support on the openmoko wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qt_Extended_4.4.3, I found the following link for libmad and qtextended: http://radagast.bglug.ca/openmoko/qt-extended-4.4.3-libmad.tar.gz Is this patch still valid? Yes. Not sure about that patch, but libmad and the libmad plugin can be gotten from qtextended.org Its been there for a while. 2) some kind of working gps support See http://www.onkelinx.com/qtopia.on.neo/?page_id=4 or navit, tangogps, ... ? There already is, and specific to the Neo. Use whereabouts example application. If someone wants to extend that or write there own, use QtopiaWhereAbouts class. 3) working alarm I briefly looked into this, but could not find anything in Qtopia that would mess up the alarm handling, as it works on other devices. 4) google contact sync See http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=2 5) working voice notes recording (see my bugreport http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/9, any hints on getting this fixed are much appreciated ...) hint: probably need to add support for QAudioStates in the mediarecorder. It had been on the qtopia bug list for sometime, but got a lower priority than other things. 6) 2.6.28 support It seems a very reasonable and doable list to me (1 and 3 were being worked on, 4 seems doable, 5 just needs a fix, 6 is a must later on). Any comments, hints, tips? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released
Looks like the hell on drugs according to their wiki. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec On Wednesday 18 March 2009 15:36:04 you wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:27:58AM -0800, Ben Hussey wrote: I can't wait to see how this is on the Freerunner. I tried a version some months ago, but it was to slow to be worthwhile. It sounds like there are a lot of speedups in this version. http://blog.pavlov.net/2009/03/17/fennec-1-beta-1/ http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0b1/releasenotes/ Does it have a sane compile process already? Or is it still the hell on drugs that I last saw (which was fairly recent)? For what I see, it's much better to work on midori's UI, making a midori-moko package or going further down and just making a simple UI with webkit and others (but maybe it's more work than worth it). Don't claim I'm wrong, prove it! A decent build process example: ./configure make make install An acceptable one could be: edit a configuration file make install Rui -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: howto qt 4.5 with qtextended 4.4.3
wow. seems interesting... will try it. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote: http://yasmar.net/qtopia/Using%20Qt%20Extended%204.4%20with%20Qt%204.5.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Friendly chess program
Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Hello! I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR. What choices do I have? Right now I have fltk-chess installed, but it is not finger-friendly (board is not resized). I've been happy with Xboard. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finger Friendly chess program
What distribution do you use? On SHR I get: xboard: no fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Leonti On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM, John Sullivan j...@wjsullivan.net wrote: Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Hello! I'm looking for chess application to play on my FR. What choices do I have? Right now I have fltk-chess installed, but it is not finger-friendly (board is not resized). I've been happy with Xboard. -- -John Sullivan -http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:JohnSullivan -GPG Key: AE8600B6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 02:58:10PM +0100, Tilman Baumann wrote: Harald Welte wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:06:20PM +0100, Tilman Baumann wrote: PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if the number is a emergency number in tie state. that depends on what the network operator does. Yep, but there seems to be some international agreement on the significance of 112. I don't have any quote yet, but as far as I understood it is even required to by the GSM standards. But that might be wrong. A D112 AT command is mentioned in the 3GPP TS 07.07 specification which you can get from here: http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/html-info/0707.htm Quoting section 8.3Enter PIN +CPIN: NOTE: Commands which interact with ME that are accepted when ME is pending SIM PIN, SIM PUK, or PH‑SIM are: +CGMI, +CGMM, +CGMR, +CGSN, D112; (emergency call), +CPAS, +CFUN, +CPIN, +CDIS (read and test command only), and +CIND (read and test command only). I don't know where the D112 command is documented. I also haven't looked through the commands to see if there is a loophole such that you can dial 112 without making an emergency call. Btw, a few days ago danish media had a news story about unintended emergency calls. It appears that the answering machine offered by many telcos is partly to blame. What happens is that you press and hold 1 to speed dial your answering machine, press 1 to listen to a message and press 2 to delete a message. Doing so leaves the number 112 on the display... -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fix it party en Barcelona 18/04/2009
Dear all, Tuxbrain is glad to announce a the first Fix it party in Spain with the support of Openmoko on Barcelona at 18/04/2009 at Boca Nord Linux Lab more details in spanish here http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=1postId=7 This is the first of the tree Tuxbrain will do in Spain. Next one will be in Madrid (Date and place pending) And next one will be at DebConf9 Caceres 25/07/2009 Best regards. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.6.28 kernel and modutils
On 2/6/09, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On recent SHR and probably FSO (haven't got MS5 going yet) connman is taking control of usb0 and trying o use dhcp to get an address. Since I have a bridged configuration on the machine I plug it into this actually succeeds, but for most people it will fail to get an address. In either case ifdown usb0 then ifup usb0 gives it the configuration found in /etc/network/interfaces which is what people are used to seeing. I think that's a good idea in case you plug in multiple phones. I was just going to ask whether it would be considered to use DHCP over USB, so I'm glad to find your mail about it. :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
