[WikiReader] SpareParts ?
Hello, Unfortunately, my touchscreeen don't seemed to working anymore. (I opened my FR to put backlight, what is impossible to do). Does the specs show what part is the screen ? Is it possible to find one somewhere or do I have to use my WR with random only ? Thanks by advance to all information. kindly Regards AstHrO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [WikiReader] French Image
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/12/1 Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr: No, I didn't. What would be the interest to do so ? it generate the index from the final filesto be able to search them correctly generating a hash file that must be included, in the image directory: $../host-tools/has-gen/has-gen --fnd=pedia.fnd --pfx=pedia.pfx --hsh=pedia.hsh I suspect there is still something wrong with my modification to the script. Building of my German wikipedia finally finished, but it does not work correctly. No link or even search points to the right article. Some articles are not even found. I removed all files that started with pedia* and copied the following files from my image dir on it. pedia0.dat pedia0.idx-tmp pedia.fnd pedia.hsh pedia.idx pedia.pfx Any ideas? I think I jinxed the PARSER_COMMAND and it re-writes the output file every time I restart it. But to test that I need two or three days again. :) Regards Tilman Baumann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] vnc-server?
strange x11vnc used to be available in the past, or is this not what you are looking for? On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys... latest shr-u is simply amazing! I just flashed full-shr from 301109. I cannot find some vnc server software, can you give me some help? And also eve browser is missing (i was wondering if it's enough fast, we have some problems on fast browsers on fr...). thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which Java JRE?
Bernd Prunster wrote: Martin Jansa wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:06:35PM +, Arigead wrote: Hello all, I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-) Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another day. I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle. Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does not suit our system. No idea if it would be better, but have you tried cacao? Its in shr-feeds now again. This is really weird! I wrtoe one more or less serious app in java for the freerunner and a couple of test apps and jamvm had avery fast startup, but was not as compatible as cacao, but easier to use and did not require that much ressources. which distro are you using? which feed are you using to install jamvm (dunno if still true but there used to be a difference depending on where you installed it from). Sorry I've been a bit busy on stuff and only now catching up here on the list. I'm using the latest classpath 0.98 and Jamvm 1.5.3 I can't remember the specifics at the moment but there was some feature of Java 6 that our system's code was using which required JamVM 1.5.3 which in turn required Classpath 0.98. I just used a OE recipe for those and build them for the OpenMoko. I tried the Cacao JRE on my eeePC and it soaked up resources as well so I never even bothered to build it for the phone. Obviously something in our Java System, mabe knophlerfish is not streamlined in these JRE's. There is a Huge difference in running our system in a SUN JRE (1% CPU According top) and other Jre's I'm working now on the eeePC to see can I reduce this 40% on Jamvm. When I get time actually I'm now trying to connect to an AdHoc wifi network form the FreeRunner. Thanks for the clarification on the ARM front. I don't think Sun have a JRE for an ARM 4, no surprise really ;-) Things would be too easy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dbus through network? Re: Digital Media Controler for DLNA
Christophe M wrote: Cristophe you finally succeed in using dbus trough network? that's awesome!! :) Yes, I'm working on that ! I'm able to call remote methode, remote methodes with arguments and very soon remote methodes that return some values .. There is just connection to remote signals and build in security missing ... yes I have read about gabriel project before(two monts or so) was not updated since early 2008 now seems than a new maintainer has picked up the baton but not new commits yet. gabriels aproach is more secure but lacks a direct way to play with as Cristoph proposal :) and lazy as I am I will love to play with qalee integrated remote dbus :), I have to take a look to boxee(boxee.tv http://boxee.tv/) to see if it has a dbus interfaces to play with too :) I didn't know about this project before, but I think they are different. What I want to do I to propose a simple access to the remote bus with build in encryption and interface filter. I don't want to share an entire bus .. Shs approch is less hacking but could be harder to get it working. My project will be : Launch a daemon on the pc with a file with exported methode and a password as argument (or setted via dbus), launch a daemon with a password as argument (or setted via dbus) on the phone (or what ever you want) and access the remote bus via a single methode, you'll know that you are calling a methode on a remote machine ... I just want it to be simple, to use and to implement I know that dbus is able directly to be used on network but that's not easy to get it working, that's not documented and that's not secure ... ?? gabriel *is* the direct way! you *are* on the remote dbus :) and above all it run very nice with the freerunner too. I'm using it to develop veeery fast on my pc using FSO on the freerunner. Oh, there is another solution (unmaintained due to few requests) to control a remote Linux Box iniecting lowlevel uinput events (emulating keyboard and mouse, it runs on text vt too), or executing remote commands (like dbus-send, etc.) : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED You can use the keyboard that come with the last release of qalee and my daemons for it ;) (the keyboard is based on dbus and is divided on two part (see svn, documentation soon)) and will be integrated in an upcoming Qt DE too. That's only to say I'm sad that peoples did not join a common project. To join a project, you have to know about it ;) But I think that those differents approch can coexist, they are different to use. If you don't like mine, I don't care, you are not obliged to use it, for me and other peoples it's utile as it is. That's free software :) ( For example I can say the same about Enlightenment ... I don't like it, their were kde, gnome, ... why people are developing for it instead of developing for other DE ? But I don't care, you have the choice to use what you want and develop for what you want ... ) Interesting thread, which I'm only catching up with. I've actually been busy working on something where by I wanted a DBus Signal from my FreeRunner sent to my eeePC. It was single Dbus signal for the CallStatus out of FSO, so I simply wrote a small python all to monitor the Signal and then fire a message over a unix socket to my eeePC which then fired out a Signal onto the DBus of the eeePC. Not at all pretty but it works. Part of our Java :-( Project is to do with learning user behaviour and pre-empting that behaviour. I was using the signal on my eeePC to turn off the Music automatically. SO when we answer a call on the Phone the music gets paused in RhythmBox (Hangup the call and it gets started again). Our project is using Jxta as a networking solution but it would be much better if Distributed or remote DBus was more nailed down. I did see the gabriel project but I've been in a hurry, hoping to demo soon and used the simple socket. It would be great if we could input to the DBus Standard in the distributed area. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Contacts phones with dashes
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:23 AM, David Lanzendörfer david.lanzendoer...@o2s.ch wrote: As its name says. Its a phone-_number_ - is not a digit. Some one would have to write a string-parsing function first and put it into the procedure before the call-function. (As simple as I think? Dunno. Would have to look into it, but I'm busy ATM with the alsa-driver problem on htc-dream for SHR) best regards leviathan What about when there is nothing separating the numbers in the contact, so instead of n (nnn) nnn- I have it stored as nnn but yet the call button doesn't work (replace n with some numbers) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Experiment: better sound on remote end
Experiment: better sound on remote end http://blog.1407.org/2009/12/02/experiment-better-sound-on-remote-end/ One of the problems people complain about my calls from the Freerunner is *bad*sound*. Lot's of background noise, static, etc. I'm not talking about the familiar buzz problem, as I've had the buzz fix applied to my phone. http://picasaweb.google.com/RuiMSeabra/DebConf9OpenMokoBuzzFixParty# However what I found to fix this problem on my phone model (GTA02v5 + buzz fix) goes totally against the official information. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_channel_controls So much so that there's at least one person who, from his very good knowledge about this subject (Really! This is *not* sarcasm!), thinks this fix is as good as putting some peanut butter over the microphone :) http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystemoldid=77886 I know of at least one other person who claims to have better sound on remote end from this fix, but I think I need to drop the challenge. Can you try the current SHR Unstable, apply this fix and then report on the mailing lists your results? You can? Good! So here's the fix: 1. call someone who noticed your bad sound and check whether the sound is still bad, then finish the call 2. edit /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default/gsmhandset 3. change control 63 (it's also on line 63), so that it ends in 3 rather than in 2: * Old value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:2 * New value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:3 4. call that person again and check the result Alternatively, in one call, you can ssh into your phone and use alsamixer to change the same control, but this change will not be persistent until you do the steps above. http://blog.1407.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/oldValue.png http://blog.1407.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/newValue.png So let's hear your results, nothing like a good empirical experiment. In the following recordings (complete set here), http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/ I said «The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog» starting with Mic2, then Right PGA, then Left PGA. 1. in perfect conditions; http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test1-perfect-conditions.wav 2. with tv making background noise (news); http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test2-with-tv.wav 3. 2. + computer playing loud music («Te Quiero Puta» from Rammstein) at the same time. http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test3-with-tv-and-music.wav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
did you ever change the gsmhandset.state file after applied buzz fix? the tracker links to an improved file specifically tuned for buzz fixed devices and so far used by a lot of peoples. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Shr-User] Contacts phones with dashes
What about when there is nothing separating the numbers in the contact, so instead of n (nnn) nnn- I have it stored as nnn but yet the call button doesn't work (replace n with some numbers) A reboot typically helps. I'm seeing this behaviour every few days. Maybe stopping and/or restarting some daemon could do the trick, but never tried it. Niels. _ De nieuwe Windows 7: vind de juiste pc voor jou. Meer informatie. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:56:28PM +0100, arne anka wrote: did you ever change the gsmhandset.state file after applied buzz fix? the tracker links to an improved file specifically tuned for buzz fixed devices and so far used by a lot of peoples. I'm using current SHR with the state file that's provided. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:12:36 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:56:28PM +0100, arne anka wrote: did you ever change the gsmhandset.state file after applied buzz fix? the tracker links to an improved file specifically tuned for buzz fixed devices and so far used by a lot of peoples. I'm using current SHR with the state file that's provided. I can't understand why they changed state file. Old one worked OK on most Neos. New one sounds bad on almost every one... You can try the state.file from old SHR... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
I had my fr just fixed, and i cannot place a call! ...better: i can call, but they just hear a crackling sound (not my voice). Tonight i'll try to apply your fix, i'm on the very very nice last shr-u (from 301109). Thanks d On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.comwrote: On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:12:36 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:56:28PM +0100, arne anka wrote: did you ever change the gsmhandset.state file after applied buzz fix? the tracker links to an improved file specifically tuned for buzz fixed devices and so far used by a lot of peoples. I'm using current SHR with the state file that's provided. I can't understand why they changed state file. Old one worked OK on most Neos. New one sounds bad on almost every one... You can try the state.file from old SHR... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] vnc-server?
I was looking after that ;-) d On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: strange x11vnc used to be available in the past, or is this not what you are looking for? On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys... latest shr-u is simply amazing! I just flashed full-shr from 301109. I cannot find some vnc server software, can you give me some help? And also eve browser is missing (i was wondering if it's enough fast, we have some problems on fast browsers on fr...). thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kernel om-gta02-2.6.31
A.A. wrote: thx, where can I found compiled modules and uImage.bin? I do it like this: make CROSS_COMPILE=/opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- ARCH=arm /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux linux.bin mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 30008000 -e 30008000 -n NameOfYourImage -d linux.bin uImage-GTA02.bin You will use different toolchain, so replace the path. For modules you can do: make CROSS_COMPILE=/opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- ARCH=arm modules_install (you might have to create directory /lib/modules/2.6.31 with read/write access first). Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
On Wednesday 02 December 2009, r...@1407.org wrote: Experiment: better sound on remote end http://blog.1407.org/2009/12/02/experiment-better-sound-on-remote-end/ One of the problems people complain about my calls from the Freerunner is *bad*sound*. Lot's of background noise, static, etc. I'm not talking about the familiar buzz problem, as I've had the buzz fix applied to my phone. http://picasaweb.google.com/RuiMSeabra/DebConf9OpenMokoBuzzFixParty# However what I found to fix this problem on my phone model (GTA02v5 + buzz fix) goes totally against the official information. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_chan nel_controls So much so that there's at least one person who, from his very good knowledge about this subject (Really! This is *not* sarcasm!), thinks this fix is as good as putting some peanut butter over the microphone :) The suggested default values on the wiki (48 on max) will cause distortion for a lot of people, but the procedure described below isn't bad if you set control 12 to 5. http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsyste moldid=77886 I know of at least one other person who claims to have better sound on remote end from this fix, but I think I need to drop the challenge. Can you try the current SHR Unstable, apply this fix and then report on the mailing lists your results? I still don't believe there's one mixer setting that suits everyone. If we had a working AGC we might have a better chance though. You can? Good! So here's the fix: 1. call someone who noticed your bad sound and check whether the sound is still bad, then finish the call 2. edit /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default/gsmhandset 3. change control 63 (it's also on line 63), so that it ends in 3 rather than in 2: * Old value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:2 * New value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:3 4. call that person again and check the result Unless you've stumbled upon some settings that make the AGC do something useful, there's nothing to be gained by routing audio through the PGA that can't be achieved just by setting the gain controls correctly on the existing route. You could try fso-simplemixer.py though I've not checked to see if it still works with the changes in the new SHR-U yet. Those that tried it said it made adjustment much easier, and improved the audio quality in calls. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/50771/focus=50802 Alternatively, in one call, you can ssh into your phone and use alsamixer to change the same control, but this change will not be persistent until you do the steps above. http://blog.1407.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/oldValue.png http://blog.1407.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/newValue.png So let's hear your results, nothing like a good empirical experiment. In the following recordings (complete set here), http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/ I said «The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog» starting with Mic2, then Right PGA, then Left PGA. 1. in perfect conditions; http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test1-perfect-conditions.w av 2. with tv making background noise (news); http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test2-with-tv.wav 3. 2. + computer playing loud music («Te Quiero Puta» from Rammstein) at the same time. http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test3-with-tv-and-music.wa v An interesting result. It suggests your max setting on control 48 is ok, and the distortion is introduced by having control 12 set to 7, boosting the signal by 6dB. Try dropping it to 5, and increasing control 5 if needed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:17, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:12:36 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:56:28PM +0100, arne anka wrote: did you ever change the gsmhandset.state file after applied buzz fix? the tracker links to an improved file specifically tuned for buzz fixed devices and so far used by a lot of peoples. I'm using current SHR with the state file that's provided. I can't understand why they changed state file. Old one worked OK on most Neos. New one sounds bad on almost every one... You can try the state.file from old SHR... Here old one was unusable at all here, new one is quite good. And new one was official Openmoko's one, and now you can adjust volume with sliders in UI - so what's the problem? -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Distributor list
David (and others) Thanks a lot for sharing your concerns about this decision with me. I had no idea it would be taken as anything but a good thing moving forward. I'm in the States now for an urgent business meeting so I will not have much time to think about / organize this until the weekend, when I return to Taiwan. I will be in touch with you all directly and let's work something out that meets both of our needs. I'm sure we can do this. -Sean On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:32 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Really disappointing for us to , that Sean has decided to not maintain an official distributors list, This drain a little the interest on making business and be so participative on making the marketing stuff Openmoko Inc has decided not to do. I really believe in the project of a freephone, I really believe in of open hardware but I'm starting to not believe in Openmoko Inc. And Sean please not argue than FreeRunner responsibilities has been transfered to community because hardware are still sold by Openmoko Inc. Regards from a very sad distributor David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/11/30 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: Am 30.11.2009 um 08:14 schrieb Christoph Pulster: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors Being one of your resellers, I appreciate your effords. Also being one of the resellers, I admit that I am not at all happy with how this list is treated. What I really expect is that the manufacturer who has a network of distributors takes care of listing them properly. And not through an anonymous community. Unfortunately Sean declined to continue responsibility. So they simply linked to the wiki page. And only after insisting to at least inform the community, he wrote this request to find a volunteer. Translated into bold words it means: We, Openmoko, have no interest in organizing anything that helps that our products are being provided to interested parties. And the community will solve our problems. The list of distributors badly needs an update. Not on the wiki, but in real life. I think it is confusing for the customer to see so many shops listed, which are obviously not seem to be active anymore. English shop Truebox and German Trisoft to mention just two (both still have a christmas 2008 offer online...). I think you just want less competition being visible - raising your own visibility :) We have an open market and everyone can display his own offer as good as he likes. And, (especially for the Freerunner) I believe in educated customers who can compare themselves what the best and most up-to-date offer is. And they can IMHO also convert and compare currencies. Besides, a lot of resellers quit selling Openmoko products, because they are unhappy how it worked out in the past. Swedish Openmoko.se shop and Spanish Blitz shop to mention just two. It is the lack of sales organization of Openmoko which makes it difficult for distributors to continue to work with them. Nikolaus http://www.handheld-linux.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: the Distributor List
Hi David I really appreciate your offer to help. Sorry for the delayed reply. I had something urgent that came up and I had to fly again. In the meantime a backlash from this decision happened on the lists -- so I want to talk with a few more of the distributors and rethink how to do this moving forward. Let me get back to you early next week. About this and your other questions... -Sean On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:29 PM, David Lanzendörfer david.lanzendoer...@o2s.ch wrote: Hi Sean I would be very glad to help you looking, that everything goes right. And would additionaly like to ask for some guidlines to start selling such devices as company (www.o2s.ch) too. And by the way: Good work, coming up with Freerunner, its the must powerfull tool I ever had. It even survived going swimming with me in Amazonia, last fall! (Little boat accident) I couldnt think of another device like this, I'm loving it. Again: Good work! Best regards David [aka. leviathan] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
I have crackilg sound... so I want to figure out what to do... I installed dictator (just not to spend tons of €) and then I play with alsamixer opened. Now the questions: 1) How do I set a numeric value in the gsmhandset? 2) I set New value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:3 but it seems it's not persistent, if I open alsamixer i find Mic2 and not Left PGA... wtf? 3) It seems that my audio is everytime over saturated, that much that crackles... any idea? d (it's about an year that i own this fr and i still don't use it as a phone... wtf! :P) r...@1407.org ha scritto: Experiment: better sound on remote end http://blog.1407.org/2009/12/02/experiment-better-sound-on-remote-end/ One of the problems people complain about my calls from the Freerunner is *bad*sound*. Lot's of background noise, static, etc. I'm not talking about the familiar buzz problem, as I've had the buzz fix applied to my phone. http://picasaweb.google.com/RuiMSeabra/DebConf9OpenMokoBuzzFixParty# However what I found to fix this problem on my phone model (GTA02v5 + buzz fix) goes totally against the official information. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_channel_controls So much so that there's at least one person who, from his very good knowledge about this subject (Really! This is *not* sarcasm!), thinks this fix is as good as putting some peanut butter over the microphone :) http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystemoldid=77886 I know of at least one other person who claims to have better sound on remote end from this fix, but I think I need to drop the challenge. Can you try the current SHR Unstable, apply this fix and then report on the mailing lists your results? You can? Good! So here's the fix: 1. call someone who noticed your bad sound and check whether the sound is still bad, then finish the call 2. edit /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default/gsmhandset 3. change control 63 (it's also on line 63), so that it ends in 3 rather than in 2: * Old value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:2 * New value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:3 4. call that person again and check the result Alternatively, in one call, you can ssh into your phone and use alsamixer to change the same control, but this change will not be persistent until you do the steps above. http://blog.1407.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/oldValue.png http://blog.1407.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/newValue.png So let's hear your results, nothing like a good empirical experiment. In the following recordings (complete set here), http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/ I said «The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog» starting with Mic2, then Right PGA, then Left PGA. 1. in perfect conditions; http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test1-perfect-conditions.wav 2. with tv making background noise (news); http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test2-with-tv.wav 3. 2. + computer playing loud music («Te Quiero Puta» from Rammstein) at the same time. http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test3-with-tv-and-music.wav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
uhm it seems that dictator uses this scenario /usr/share/scenarios/dictator/dictator_rec.state so...buh... is there a way to let dictator use standard scenarios? (just to test this damn alsastate). But the question still remains: if i find a nice regulation with alsamixer, how do i revert this in the gsmhandset file? thanks again d r...@1407.org ha scritto: Experiment: better sound on remote end http://blog.1407.org/2009/12/02/experiment-better-sound-on-remote-end/ One of the problems people complain about my calls from the Freerunner is *bad*sound*. Lot's of background noise, static, etc. I'm not talking about the familiar buzz problem, as I've had the buzz fix applied to my phone. http://picasaweb.google.com/RuiMSeabra/DebConf9OpenMokoBuzzFixParty# However what I found to fix this problem on my phone model (GTA02v5 + buzz fix) goes totally against the official information. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_channel_controls So much so that there's at least one person who, from his very good knowledge about this subject (Really! This is *not* sarcasm!), thinks this fix is as good as putting some peanut butter over the microphone :) http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk:Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystemoldid=77886 I know of at least one other person who claims to have better sound on remote end from this fix, but I think I need to drop the challenge. Can you try the current SHR Unstable, apply this fix and then report on the mailing lists your results? You can? Good! So here's the fix: 1. call someone who noticed your bad sound and check whether the sound is still bad, then finish the call 2. edit /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default/gsmhandset 3. change control 63 (it's also on line 63), so that it ends in 3 rather than in 2: * Old value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:2 * New value: 63:'Mic Sidetone Mux':1:3 4. call that person again and check the result Alternatively, in one call, you can ssh into your phone and use alsamixer to change the same control, but this change will not be persistent until you do the steps above. http://blog.1407.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/oldValue.png http://blog.1407.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/newValue.png So let's hear your results, nothing like a good empirical experiment. In the following recordings (complete set here), http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/ I said «The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog» starting with Mic2, then Right PGA, then Left PGA. 1. in perfect conditions; http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test1-perfect-conditions.wav 2. with tv making background noise (news); http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test2-with-tv.wav 3. 2. + computer playing loud music («Te Quiero Puta» from Rammstein) at the same time. http://files.1407.org/openmoko/mic_sidemux_test/test3-with-tv-and-music.wav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [WikiReader] SpareParts ?
Thomas Please email supp...@thewikireader.com for these kind of requests. I'm sure we'll take care of you. -Sean On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.frwrote: Hello, Unfortunately, my touchscreeen don't seemed to working anymore. (I opened my FR to put backlight, what is impossible to do). Does the specs show what part is the screen ? Is it possible to find one somewhere or do I have to use my WR with random only ? Thanks by advance to all information. kindly Regards AstHrO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Experiment: better sound on remote end
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 08:31:22PM +0100, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 15:17, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:12:36 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:56:28PM +0100, arne anka wrote: did you ever change the gsmhandset.state file after applied buzz fix? the tracker links to an improved file specifically tuned for buzz fixed devices and so far used by a lot of peoples. I'm using current SHR with the state file that's provided. I can't understand why they changed state file. Old one worked OK on most Neos. New one sounds bad on almost every one... You can try the state.file from old SHR... Here old one was unusable at all here, new one is quite good. And new one was official Openmoko's one, and now you can adjust volume with sliders in UI - so what's the problem? Speaking of the sliders, are they persistent in the value they set? Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] wifi connection
Hello All, I was going to try and connect my FR to my laptop with an ad-hoc wifi connection but being as I've never even connected to infrastructure I decided that I'd start there. I followed the instructions in the wiki [1] but got some strange results: ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 ifdown: interface eth0 not configured WPA: Configuring Interface ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported udhcpc (v1.13.2) started run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with code 1 Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending select for 192.168.1.137... Sending select for 192.168.1.137... Lease of 192.168.1.137 obtained, lease time 3600 run-parts: /etc/udhcpc.d/00avahi-autoipd exited with code 1 adding dns 192.168.1.254 r...@om-gta02 /media/card $ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:12:CF:8F:37:23 inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8f:3723/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:751 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:381 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:353244 (344.9 KiB) TX bytes:9635 (9.4 KiB) It appears that I get offered an address by the DHCP server on the wifi but that it's not being used by eth0 for some reason. Is this a know issue. To be honest I've never tried to use the wifi part of the phone before and the wiki might be outdated, even for infrastructure mode? Cheers for any help that anybody has time to offer. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Distributor list
OK Sean, sure finally we can find a successfully way to be all happy again. David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/12/2 Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com: David (and others) Thanks a lot for sharing your concerns about this decision with me. I had no idea it would be taken as anything but a good thing moving forward. I'm in the States now for an urgent business meeting so I will not have much time to think about / organize this until the weekend, when I return to Taiwan. I will be in touch with you all directly and let's work something out that meets both of our needs. I'm sure we can do this. -Sean On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:32 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Really disappointing for us to , that Sean has decided to not maintain an official distributors list, This drain a little the interest on making business and be so participative on making the marketing stuff Openmoko Inc has decided not to do. I really believe in the project of a freephone, I really believe in of open hardware but I'm starting to not believe in Openmoko Inc. And Sean please not argue than FreeRunner responsibilities has been transfered to community because hardware are still sold by Openmoko Inc. Regards from a very sad distributor David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! 2009/11/30 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: Am 30.11.2009 um 08:14 schrieb Christoph Pulster: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors Being one of your resellers, I appreciate your effords. Also being one of the resellers, I admit that I am not at all happy with how this list is treated. What I really expect is that the manufacturer who has a network of distributors takes care of listing them properly. And not through an anonymous community. Unfortunately Sean declined to continue responsibility. So they simply linked to the wiki page. And only after insisting to at least inform the community, he wrote this request to find a volunteer. Translated into bold words it means: We, Openmoko, have no interest in organizing anything that helps that our products are being provided to interested parties. And the community will solve our problems. The list of distributors badly needs an update. Not on the wiki, but in real life. I think it is confusing for the customer to see so many shops listed, which are obviously not seem to be active anymore. English shop Truebox and German Trisoft to mention just two (both still have a christmas 2008 offer online...). I think you just want less competition being visible - raising your own visibility :) We have an open market and everyone can display his own offer as good as he likes. And, (especially for the Freerunner) I believe in educated customers who can compare themselves what the best and most up-to-date offer is. And they can IMHO also convert and compare currencies. Besides, a lot of resellers quit selling Openmoko products, because they are unhappy how it worked out in the past. Swedish Openmoko.se shop and Spanish Blitz shop to mention just two. It is the lack of sales organization of Openmoko which makes it difficult for distributors to continue to work with them. Nikolaus http://www.handheld-linux.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko FR are now in Palm projected
awesome! We are going to send you the second freerunner as soon as the Jaipur LUG gives it back. They keep playing with and delaying the return date! Rakshat On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM, RANJAN infi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Check out the in palm projection of Openmoko FR here: http://sriranjan.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/my-version-of-the-sixth-sense-device-i-call-it-virtual-interactive-projected-surface/ Applications shown are Phone dialer and GPS app. Sincere thanks to sponsor idasystems (www.idasystems.net) for the Free runner. Regards Sriranjan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
