Re: Some questions about TangoGPS
On 1/18/10, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Noel wrote: I'm the only one who sees the **big** advantage of navit over tangogps, as being able to work **offline**, with very-easy-to-get maps? Download all the maps you need once when you're online. Tangogps will work fine offline after that. (The same goes for navit - you have to give it a map to work with. Tangogps merely has the option of downloading maps when needed.) I use gps apps when I'm in an **unexpected** position/place. Otherwise, I can look on a paper map or on Internet a couple hours before. The 512mb sd card received with neo is enough to keep a navit map (downloaded 'very' fast) to cover my daily 'unexpected' routes. I can't say the same for tangogps. This doesn't mean that I don't use it. Last time was 7 months ago, when I've been a little 'adventurous' on an uncharted (by osm) area. I used the tracking feature of tangogps to get back from where I started :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com writes: I was talking about putting the tremor mplayer into pkg-fso. Ah yes, that is surely useful. And if it is already heading unstable I think pkg-fso would be nice way get some testing done before it hits unstable. Assuming of course that you have the extra time to prepare the package. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using FSO to controll secondary phone?
if you want to remote control your freerunner over dbus you can use gabriel [1] which is a dbus proxy over ssh. if you want to forward you serial connection over tcp you can use a forwarder written by alphaone [2]. I think if you want to expose you modem over a bluetooth connection, some extra work is required. [1] http://gabriel.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=tree;f=tools/serial_forward;h=517b33a6168632d5ecd3fc6ceac574b2247109cb;hb=HEAD 2010/1/18 joa...@verona.se Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes: Frederik Sdun frederik.s...@googlemail.com writes: * joa...@verona.se joa...@verona.se [17.01.2010 07:45]: Would it be possible to attach a secondary phone over BT to the Freerunner and controll it with FSO, the same way as the inbuilt phone device? I think over bluetooth is not possible. But if you can establish a network connection you can use gabriel[1[, which should be in the SHR repo since yesterday. Why not bluetooth? Many cellphones expose AT interface over bluetooth, with rfcomm channel created one can start another instance of ogsmd to treat it like a single-line modem. I had in mind that the secondary phone(s) should be as dumb as possible, so I dont think establishing network connections to the secondary devices would be desirable. That would imply a smartphone-level device. The rfcomm+ogsmd aproach thus seems more palatable. Does anyone have any recomendations for a simple reliable phone that would be remote controlable this way? -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
c_c cchan...@yahoo.com writes: I'm using timo's .29 faster kernel. I had the gsm not registering with this kernel using fso-abyss. Somehow, in my case (though I've has #1024 and buzz fix applied) using gsm0710muxd always works. Abyss developers (Mickey?) might want to see strace of fso-abyss. I do not know a clean way to capture it however. I would replace abyss with a wrapper shell script that'll use strace to capture everything abyss does: 1) mv /usr/sbin/fso-abyss /usr/sbin/fso-abyss.real 2) cat /usr/sbin/fso-abyss EOF #!/bin/sh strace -o /tmp/abyss.strace -s4096 -f -tt /usr/sbin/fso-abyss.real $@ EOF 3) chmod a+x /usr/sbin/fso-abyss 4) reboot 5) try to use GSM 6) mv /usr/sbin/fso-abyss.real /usr/sbin/fso-abyss 7) put /tmp/abyss.strace online (note that it can contain your PIN code, names and numbers of contacts and even SMS) If somebody knows an easier way, let me know :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
David Garabana Barro wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 16:52:11 Helge Hafting wrote: [...] Too bad this kernel didn't work, it seemed very interesting. I don't know what is causing gsm to not register, but it's not kernel, for sure. It may be some kind of race condition in the SHR software, that gets trigged much more often with the faster kernel. Still, the solution for now is an old kernel, for I need the phone to work as a phone. Fixing SHR shouldn't be hard, once the race condition is found. If one program depend on another, then start them in sequence instead of simultaneously. Or have the dependant program issue sleep 1 and then retry whenever the other program isn't there. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wikipage with FOSDEM 2010 visitors
Just 4 Freerunners going to FOSDEM? Am 18.01.2010 um 08:21 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Hi all, I will attend FOSDEM 2010 and give a talk about experiments with GNUstep running on the Freerunner. Here is the schedule: http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/events/gnustep_porting_quantumstep But since I am sure there are many more attendants and activities, I have started a Wiki Page where you can register yourself: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=FOSDEM_2010 This all should ease to keep the community from being thinned out during such a large event. And I am sure that there are many new things to learn and nice people to meet around the Freerunner. Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/fso] how to enable wlan again?
2010/1/16 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: qdbus --system org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled lindi found out that the new kernel is too fast which randomly fails the ar6000 initialization: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2327 I also noticed the problem last evening, although before that it had worked when I tested (as it works randomly). I now quickly recompiled the kernel with the suggested patch and put the resulting kernel at the familiar place: http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/kernel_20100108_nodebug_nopreempt/ According to the last comment in the bug report, the patch is not necessarily enough, but if it makes it better it's good. I have no time at the moment to test it extensively, but WLAN worked on first boot at least... -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:28:10AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: David Garabana Barro wrote: On Monday 18 January 2010 16:52:11 Helge Hafting wrote: [...] Too bad this kernel didn't work, it seemed very interesting. I don't know what is causing gsm to not register, but it's not kernel, for sure. It may be some kind of race condition in the SHR software, that gets trigged much more often with the faster kernel. We found this race condition in Debian, too - even before using a faster kernel by lowering the framework's log_level. -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:25:46AM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com writes: I was talking about putting the tremor mplayer into pkg-fso. Ah yes, that is surely useful. And if it is already heading unstable I think pkg-fso would be nice way get some testing done before it hits unstable. Assuming of course that you have the extra time to prepare the package. A rebuild from git.debian.org should be enough :) -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
2010/1/19 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Hi, I'm using timo's .29 faster kernel. I had the gsm not registering with this kernel using fso-abyss. Somehow, in my case (though I've has #1024 and buzz fix applied) using gsm0710muxd always works. That is consistent with my experience. I haven't yet tried switching to fso-abyss, and I've never (as far as I can remember) had the GSM not registering problem. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to update TangoGPS maps?
2010/1/18 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: you can simply do dpkg -i foo.ipk neo:~# dpkg -i yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk Selecting previously deselected package yaouh. (Reading database ... 15461 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking yaouh (from yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of yaouh: yaouh depends on python-pygtk; however: Package python-pygtk is not installed. dpkg: error processing yaouh (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: yaouh Thanks all :D -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it team member* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia projects contributor* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to update TangoGPS maps?
2010/1/19 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com: neo:~# dpkg -i yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk Selecting previously deselected package yaouh. (Reading database ... 15461 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking yaouh (from yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of yaouh: yaouh depends on python-pygtk; however: Package python-pygtk is not installed. dpkg: error processing yaouh (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: yaouh apt-get install python-pygtk Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wikipage with FOSDEM 2010 visitors
I'll be there :) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote: Just 4 Freerunners going to FOSDEM? Am 18.01.2010 um 08:21 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Hi all, I will attend FOSDEM 2010 and give a talk about experiments with GNUstep running on the Freerunner. Here is the schedule: http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/events/gnustep_porting_quantumstep But since I am sure there are many more attendants and activities, I have started a Wiki Page where you can register yourself: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=FOSDEM_2010 This all should ease to keep the community from being thinned out during such a large event. And I am sure that there are many new things to learn and nice people to meet around the Freerunner. Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ http://fabricatorz.com/ internet: @rejon + skype: kidproto +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.134.3957.2035 (china) Sent from Wellington, Wgn, New Zealand ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Building QtMoko failed
Yann SLADEK wrote: Btw Radek, which files should I send ? ts files or qm files ? Regards, Yann Important are the ts files. Maybe if you could send it as patch or somehow preserve the directory structure it would be best. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner can now play Ogg video
I'm using timo's .29 faster kernel. I had the gsm not registering with this kernel using fso-abyss. Somehow, in my case (though I've has #1024 and buzz fix applied) using gsm0710muxd always works. fso-abyss is very temperamental - but sometimes starts working all of a sudden. no such problem here, both with timo's kernel and fso-abyss. could it be that you suffer from to short a dbus timeout? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OT: Re: gender-neutral English usage
AFAIK, German has a neutral gender in addition to masculine and feminine, but I know even less about German than Spanish. german neutral pronoun es is very similar to english it (and not only etymologically), ie it is only used for nouns not being either mal or female (and diminutives like Mädchen which is a d'v of Maid/Magd, girl). it certainly is not applicable for the case in question. as in almost any other language the issue of male vs female came up not until the 60s/70s and there's no viable solution (if it is possible to find any). we use er/sie which equaly he/she but german even uses male vs femal in nouns like Schaffner (conductor) or Maurer (mason) -- which get a suffix in/innen (sing/pl) for the female form. thus, in most texts paying attention to gender it is written Maurer/in or MaurerIn (and now, zealots try to dinstinguish themselves by writing Maurer_in ... ) I wonder how this issue was solved in the past. Such a usual problem must have been solved centuries ago in the English literature, no? hasn't been an issue until recently -- no problem == no solution. in societies with clearly separated spheres of action for man and woman (ideologically, reality was often far more complex), the need never occured -- addressing a female doctor never was necessary: doctors simply were men. dr johnson probably wouldn't have understood the question at all ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How to update TangoGPS maps?
neo:~# dpkg -i yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk Selecting previously deselected package yaouh. (Reading database ... 15461 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking yaouh (from yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of yaouh: yaouh depends on python-pygtk; however: Package python-pygtk is not installed. dpkg: error processing yaouh (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: yaouh yeah, common issue. ipk package names do not always match debian package names (this one most likely should be python-gtk2). three ways are possible - install with ignore-deps, but the package will always turn up as broken and maybe apt-get will trip over it: dpkg -i --ignore-depends=pygtk yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk - unpack the ipk with ar x yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk (should extract two tar.gz), find the necessary file(s) and put them into /usr/local/... - create a dummy python-pygtk package to satisfy the dependency. there's a debain tool exactly for that purpose, but i can't remember the name right now. you could even simply create directory structure mimicing eg /usr/local/, create a tar.gz from it and create the dummy with alien. i'd use the second approach ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner
It may be some kind of race condition in the SHR software, that gets trigged much more often with the faster kernel. We found this race condition in Debian, too - even before using a faster kernel by lowering the framework's log_level. So it appears the symptoms have been tracked: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2327 (also see post by Timo). _ Windows 7: kijk live tv, rechtstreeks vanaf je laptop. Meer informatie. http://windows.microsoft.com/windows-7 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] installer:E: Could not find the following binaries: ar and few questions
I tried today to install Debian on uSD following the instructions on the wiki but I received an error after typing the ./install.sh command: # [options] ./install [options] all # E: Could not find the following binaries: ar But in the debian repository there are no packages named ar, maybe ara? If so, a correction of the install script is needed. I have few questions :) 1) I read of poeple using kernel and rootfs in only one partition with uBoot. to do that, are correct the following options? # TASKS=ALL SINGLE_PART=true ./install.sh --part1-fs ext3 --part1-size size MB --swap-size size MB all 2)I have a 8GB Kingston uSD, a reasonable swap size? is 512MB enough? 3)what is the function of the environment variable SD_PART2_FS if in the script there is no SD_PART2_SIZE? it would be useful to set a second partition for data storage thank you! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Debian-installer-E-Could-not-find-the-following-binaries-ar-and-few-questions-tp4419824p4419824.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] installer:E: Could not find the following binaries: ar and few questions
Joif fdvj...@vodafone.it writes: # E: Could not find the following binaries: ar But in the debian repository there are no packages named ar, maybe ara? If so, a correction of the install script is needed. apt-file search bin/ar shows that ar is part of the binutils package. However the script can not install any debian packages if it has no ar :-) What distro are you using that has no ar? 2)I have a 8GB Kingston uSD, a reasonable swap size? is 512MB enough? With 128M of RAM that is gigantic amount of swap :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] installer:E: Could not find the following binaries: ar and few questions
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Joif fdvj...@vodafone.it writes: # E: Could not find the following binaries: ar But in the debian repository there are no packages named ar, maybe ara? If so, a correction of the install script is needed. apt-file search bin/ar shows that ar is part of the binutils package. However the script can not install any debian packages if it has no ar :-) What distro are you using that has no ar? I'm using QtMoko v16b Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: 2)I have a 8GB Kingston uSD, a reasonable swap size? is 512MB enough? With 128M of RAM that is gigantic amount of swap :-) I have to get used to the hardware of the neo freerunner :D -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Debian-installer-E-Could-not-find-the-following-binaries-ar-and-few-questions-tp4419824p4420277.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] installer:E: Could not find the following binaries: ar and few questions
What distro are you using that has no ar? I'm using QtMoko v16b unmodified image, i guess? as last resort you may fetch the binutils armel package from any debian repository and extract ar from it on another computer. according to ldd on my x86 right now it needs $ ldd /usr/bin/ar linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb78bd000) libbfd-2.20.so = /usr/lib/libbfd-2.20.so (0xb77d5000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb77d1000) libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb77bc000) libc.so.6 = /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7675000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb78be000) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Change orientation of X desktop on QT Extended distro ?
Hi, I'm using QT Extended OS firmware 4.4.3 Radek version on my Neo and want to use X desktop on it. I tried to add that option: Option Rotateright in xorg.conf file but not success :( An idea how to do that ? Thanks in advance for any tips, infos, help... Vincèn -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Change-orientation-of-X-desktop-on-QT-Extended-distro-tp4420350p4420350.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Re: gender-neutral English usage
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:14:43 +0100 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: AFAIK, German has a neutral gender in addition to masculine and feminine, but I know even less about German than Spanish. german neutral pronoun es is very similar to english it (and not only etymologically), ie it is only used for nouns not being either mal or female (and diminutives like Mädchen which is a d'v of Maid/Magd, girl). it certainly is not applicable for the case in question. I know for sure that Estonian language has a gender-neutral pronoun. In exchange, it doesn't have any gender-specific pronouns, what I find strange, being used to Polish, in which you can't virtually say anything without being gender-specific. as in almost any other language the issue of male vs female came up not until the 60s/70s and there's no viable solution (if it is possible to find any). we use er/sie which equaly he/she but german even uses male vs femal in nouns like Schaffner (conductor) or Maurer (mason) -- which get a suffix in/innen (sing/pl) for the female form. thus, in most texts paying attention to gender it is written Maurer/in or MaurerIn (and now, zealots try to dinstinguish themselves by writing Maurer_in ... ) It's been an issue in Polish language and culture recently, too - some of the functions in society had been traditionally assigned to one or the other gender, and some to both. The words not having other-gendered counterparts have to be coped with. Doktor is normally male, but can be used as (implicitly) female, and the use is widely accepted. However, most words can be made explicitly female - doktor would become doktorka. The most famous example of the latter is psycholog and psycholożka (psychologist), which are accepted by the Polish Language Board, but sound extremely cheesy in my opinion. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[wikireader] Rudimentary support for several wikis
I now registered to the list, since unregistered didn't seem to come through and c...@thewikireader doesn't seem to respond. Possibly you might recive this message more than once. Original Message Subject: [wikireader] Rudimentary support for several wikis Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:56:53 + From: Tom Bachmann tb...@cam.ac.uk To: community@lists.openmoko.org Hello, first of all, please CC me since I'm not registered to the list. Over the last few days I have been hacking together rudimentary support for displaying several collections of data (e.g. wikis of different languages) on the wikireader. This code is not yet ready to be incorporated into the main repository (I think), and furthermore I don't actually know if it complies with your ideas of simplicity. HOWEVER, I would be very grateful to everyone who can test the code. I don't yet have a real wikireader (i.e. I have been developing this on the simulator; I will get one after sorting out my budget...) and I'm worried that there might be problems related to e.g. the scarcity of memory on the reader (how much ram has it installed?). Here is what I did: basically, articles are now identified by their index and by their collection id (the highest four bits of the 32bit identifier). The .pfx, .fnd, .hsh and .idx files are replicated per collection. The .dat files are just numbered consecutively (and identified by the usual way). So if you have e.g. two collections, say english and french wikipedia, then your image layout may look like this: pedia0.idx pedia0.hsh pedia0.pfx pedia0.fnd pedia1.idx pedia1.hsh pedia1.pfx pedia1.fnd pedia0.dat pedia1.dat pedia2.dat pedia3.dat pedia4.dat You cannot tell what articles are in what .dat files (in principle articles from several wikis could be mixed in one file), but in practice we might have pedia0-2.dat corresponding to the collection 0 (english wiki) and pedia{3,4}.dat corresponding to collection 1 (french wiki). The searching functionality etc is implemented in the wiki-app, the user inteface is rather non-existent. As a hack for testing I'm statically configuring the system to use two collections (identified 0 and 1) and I added an invisible button to the upper right corner of the search menu to switch between the collections (in the simulator you will see a message). There seem to be some bugs in that button but it's really for testing only. In addition to implementing all that in the wiki-app, I modified the render, index and combine programs. All take a new --coll-number argument to identify the collection being worked on, and ArticleRender.py has a new --dat-number argument to specify the .dat file (--number only identifies the block for the .idx file). The good news is, you can just re-use your primary collection (the one identified by 0). The bad news is, all extra collections have to be re-built. For a quick test, try make DESTDIR=image WORKDIR=work \ XML_FILES=xml-file-samples/japanese_architects.xml \ COLL_NUMBER=1 DAT_NUMBER=${first unused index in .dat} iprch make DESTDIR=image WORKDIR=work install and then copy everything to your wikireader (or try sim4). Again, it would be *greatly* appreciated if someone could build a large second collection and try two real-life datasets on the wikireader. All the code is at gitorious (just because I am already registered there but not yet on github). To get it, do git clone git://gitorious.org/wikireader-ness/wikireader-ness.git Let me know what you think! Thanks, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Re: gender-neutral English usage
Something I love about Turkish language, almost nothing is gender specific, and it is hard to be so. The only common gender specific words are the ones describing family relations. We have very precise words for sister of father or so but as I said, gender is irrelevant for the rest. In German, not only words related to people, but words themselves have genders, which I find annoying. The most funny example I remember is Das Meer(sea, neutral), Die See(sea, feminine), Der See(lake masculine). Doktor is normally male, but can be used as (implicitly) female, and the use is widely accepted. However, most words can be made explicitly female - doktor would become doktorka. The most famous example of the latter is psycholog and psycholożka (psychologist), which are accepted by the Polish Language Board, but sound extremely cheesy in my opinion. This is similar in Bulgarian, as all professions are male by default, and have female counterparts. Objects also have genders, and they are made plural etc. depending on their gender. Oops, I think this thread is drifting away, sorry. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Re: gender-neutral English usage
2010/1/19 omcomali@porcupinefactory.org: I know for sure that Estonian language has a gender-neutral pronoun. In exchange, it doesn't have any gender-specific pronouns, what I find strange, being used to Polish, in which you can't virtually say anything without being gender-specific. I am Estonian and yes we use the same word for both he and she. I think the same is in other finno-ugric languages too. And I can't see the need for gender-specific pronouns at all. 2010/1/15 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: Historically, yes, they and their are plural. But in real current (UK) English, they are being used more and more also as gender-independent singular. That might sound surprising, but it is the case. Regards, Neil So if someone says something about one certain person and you don't know who is he/she talking about and if that person is male or female, then you can ask who are they?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] installer:E: Could not find the following binaries: ar and few questions
ok installing binutils did the trick but now I received another error: - *** * WARNING * *** This will destroy all the data on the microSD card!!! Press any key within 5 seconds to quit read: 1: Illegal option -t * Clearing MBR of SD. Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xdc498101. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 243200. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) ./install.sh: 1: arithmetic expression: expecting primary: -(*256/7969) - -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Debian-installer-E-Could-not-find-the-following-binaries-ar-and-few-questions-tp4419824p4421061.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[H:1] Update
Hi, everyone :) I'm just trying latest hackable:1 image, and I wonder... Is it ok to update hackable:1 r5 using apt? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Re: gender-neutral English usage
2010/1/19 Margo keegiv...@gmail.com: So if someone says something about one certain person and you don't know who is he/she talking about and if that person is male or female, then you can ask who are they?? Hmm, I'm not sure. I think I'd say who is that?. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Re: gender-neutral English usage
And I can't see the need for gender-specific pronouns at all. well, since a lot of (most?) languages have those, there's certainly a need for that :-) So if someone says something about one certain person and you don't know who is he/she talking about and if that person is male or female, then you can ask who are they?? the releavnt part is imo who -- and that is gender indifferent. who is [it/this/that]? would be the question here, i think. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Wikireader]Idea for wikireader color
I know that for having a wikireader with photos and draws there are some problems with copyrights and licenses, but imagine you have a system like the one on the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ4gnOltZqE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [H:1] Update
David Garabana Barro a écrit : Hi, everyone :) I'm just trying latest hackable:1 image, and I wonder... Is it ok to update hackable:1 r5 using apt? Hi yes, you can update the rev5 (make sure, in sources.list, that you are using the rev5 repositories and not the dailies) ; dist-upgrading may be dangerous. btw, you can subscribe the h:1 mailing lists: http://lists.hackable1.org/mailman/listinfo David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Re: gender-neutral English usage
On Tuesday 19. January 2010 17:55:18, arne anka anka wrote: well, since a lot of (most?) languages have those, there's certainly a need for that :-) And only the most important words have the privilege to have two or more genders. In Germany, it's the almighty Joghurt. It's allowed to use all three genders! (Really. [1]) ;) [1] http://www.duden.de/definition/joghurt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community action required: Wikipage with FOSDEM 2010 activities and attendants
Will you do #1024 bug fixing @ FOSDEM? How much would you charge for it? BTW, same question for other companies who will show up :) Rui Em 18-01-2010 07:21, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escreveu: Hi all, I will attend FOSDEM 2010 and give a talk about experiments with GNUstep running on the Freerunner. Here is the schedule: http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/events/gnustep_porting_quantumstep But since I am sure there are many more attendants and activities, I have started a Wiki Page where you can register yourself: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=FOSDEM_2010 This all should ease to keep the community from being thinned out during such a large event. And I am sure that there are many new things to learn and nice people to meet around the Freerunner. Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elm_browser initial release
Em 14-01-2010 04:24, c_c escreveu: Michael Smith-5 wrote: If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of links. I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient. I keep my bookmarks as a html page (firefox bookmarks.html) and browse to it to launch from. Maybe a similar list of html links on a local page as the startup page will be nice to launch from. I really can't suggest strongly enough to use sqlite as the place to store bookmarks, specially if you add keyword organization instead of merely hierarchichal. Thanks for stepping up with that project, I was thinking of doing it myself but I haven't had much time lately. Best, Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community Updates] 2010-01-14 released
Em 15-01-2010 17:40, Patryk Benderz escreveu: Hello everybody, Recent Community Update is out. Take a look at News link in Community box on wiki pages to read it. For your convenience here is direct link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-01-14 and contribute to the new draft at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-01-28 Thanks to all contributors of this issue of CU: * PaulWise * Kichkasch * Multi * Baba melone * Vanous * Valos * Bt4 * Linuxxr * Deubeuliou I know, I didn't have time to update the CU, but elmdentica's latest release didn't show up :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/shr apps] conatcts app crashes with full addressbook w/o any error message
shh freerunner $ export DISPLAY=:0.0 $ gdb phoneuid # run # bt here's what i get when starting phoneui-contacts. besides the actual crash there seems to be an issue with the log file -- i don't find where it is defined, but it is set to /var/log/phoneuid.log ... and per default writable for root only, while phoneuid runs as normal user, i guess? (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/phoneuid [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Log file: /var/log/phoneuid.log Log level: DEBUG (process:8351): phoneuid-DEBUG: Configuration file read phoneuid-Message: Using log level 'DEBUG' libphone-ui-Message: Loading phoneuid libphone-ui-Message: No speaker value for idle found, using none libphone-ui-Message: No microphone value for idle found, using none (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: settisg speaker_min to 90 libphone-ui-Message: no vibrator configured - turning vibration off (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no flash configured for action error (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no sound configured for action error (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no vibrate configured for action error (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no flash configured for action warning (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no sound configured for action warning (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no vibrate configured for action warning (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no flash configured for action notice (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no sound configured for action notice (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no vibrate configured for action notice (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no flash configured for action click (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no sound configured for action click (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: feedback: no vibrate configured for action click (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-WARNING **: No such file or directory (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: Trying to get the system bus (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: Adding signals. (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: registered to GSM.Network.Status (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: registered to GSM.Network.SignalStrength (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: registered to GSM.Call.CallStatus (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: registered to Device.IdleNotifier.State (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: registered to Device.PowerSupply.Capacity. (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: registered to Usage.ResourceChanged (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: registered to PIM.Messages.UnreadMessages (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: registered to PIM.Calls.NewMissedCalls (process:8351): libframeworkd-glib-DEBUG: registered to Preferences.Notify (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: Initiated elementary (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: _idle_notifier_handler: idle state now 0 (process:8351): phoneuid-DEBUG: org.shr.phoneuid.Contacts.DisplayList (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: window_new (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: window_init(win=234408) (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: window_view_show() (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: window_view_hide() (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: contact_list_view_show() (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: No frame to hide (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: frame_list_show() (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: setting layout from file '/usr/share/libphone-ui-shr/default.edj' (phoneui/contacts/list) Error creating the logfile (/var/log/phoneuid.log) !!!EDJE ERROR: file /usr/share/elementary/themes/default.edj, group elm/index/base/vertical/default has a non-fixed part. add fixed: 1 1; ??? Problem part is: elm.swallow.event.0 Will recalc min size not allowing broken parts to affect the result. (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: contact_list_fill() libphone-ui-Message: Probing for contacts (process:8351): libphone-ui-shr-DEBUG: window_show(win=234408) (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: _handle_network_status (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: provider is 'E-Plus' (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: signal strength is 52 (process:8351): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_unref: assertion `hash_table-ref_count 0' failed (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: _handle_network_status (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: provider is 'E-Plus' (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: signal strength is 52 (process:8351): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_unref: assertion `hash_table-ref_count 0' failed libphone-ui-Message: Contact query result gave 34 entries (process:8351): libphone-ui-DEBUG: Got to _contact_list_result_callback (process:8351): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_value_get_string: assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_STRING (value)' failed Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x402858c0 in strcasecmp () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x402858c0 in strcasecmp
[debian/shr apps] call list?
the new package brought the shr idle screen which shows XX calls and YY sms -- that reminds of onen question: sms do i see with the messages app, but where do i see the calls? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/shr apps] call list?
On Tuesday 19 January 2010, arne anka wrote: the new package brought the shr idle screen which shows XX calls and YY sms -- that reminds of onen question: sms do i see with the messages app, but where do i see the calls? in shr it would be phonelog, packaged as pyphonelog, or the phonelog in launcher ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/shr apps] conatcts app crashes with full addressbook w/o any error message
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:14:16PM +0100, arne anka wrote: shh freerunner $ export DISPLAY=:0.0 $ gdb phoneuid # run # bt here's what i get when starting phoneui-contacts. besides the actual crash there seems to be an issue with the log file -- i don't find where it is defined, but it is set to /var/log/phoneuid.log ... and per default writable for root only, while phoneuid runs as normal user, i guess? phoneuid is supposed to be started as the X user. In SHR they are using the root account for everything, so they don't have this problem ;) Try adding log_file = in the config file. #1 0x401ded1c in _compare_contacts (_a=value optimized out, _b=0x112124) at phoneui-utils.c:674 And another failing strcmp :P (The segfaults I reported so far where strcmp caused, too). I just checked the source. I guess you have a contact with an empty Name field. Can you check [1] /etc/freesmartphone/opim/csv-contacts.txt for such contacts? Ah I may have forgotten to switch default logging back to file. Can you check your frameworkd's config? yes, indeed. although i compared both the old and the new one in meld and copied log_level and log_destination over, the hash mark has escaped me. log_to was set to stderr instead of file. I guess I should change this back *makes notice* -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/shr apps] call list?
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:21:55PM +0100, arne anka wrote: the new package brought the shr idle screen which shows XX calls and YY sms -- that reminds of onen question: sms do i see with the messages app, but where do i see the calls? Try pyphonelog, it reads the call history from opimd. -- Sebastian signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community action required: Wikipage with FOSDEM 2010 activities and attendants
Am 19.01.2010 um 21:25 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: Will you do #1024 bug fixing @ FOSDEM? How much would you charge for it? Unfortunately no. We do not do it ourselves but by a professional company that is specialized in SMD soldering and rework. So we are not able to carry equipment + staff to Brussels. I.e. we can only offer the remote solution which needs shipment and time. Nikolaus BTW, same question for other companies who will show up :) Rui Em 18-01-2010 07:21, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller escreveu: Hi all, I will attend FOSDEM 2010 and give a talk about experiments with GNUstep running on the Freerunner. Here is the schedule: http://fosdem.org/2010/schedule/events/gnustep_porting_quantumstep But since I am sure there are many more attendants and activities, I have started a Wiki Page where you can register yourself: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=FOSDEM_2010 This all should ease to keep the community from being thinned out during such a large event. And I am sure that there are many new things to learn and nice people to meet around the Freerunner. Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
debian/fso on freerunner
Hello! Sorry my bad English. Tell me please, I understand that debian lags behind the progress? Old frameworkd etc, the old kernel without the new drivers for glamo, just zhone updated ... Even I look at leading figures debian pass programs shr))) Hope dies last))) - Thank you for your attention. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/debian-fso-on-freerunner-tp4425059p4425059.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FOSDEM2010
We now have two FOSDEM pages and I have merged them both a little... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2010 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Fosdem_2010 Sorry for the confusion created by this move. Nevertheless, please add yourself to the list if you visit FOSDEM. Am 27.10.2009 um 18:12 schrieb PieterC: Hi everyone, great to hear many people are interested! Today I've entered openmoko on fosdem.org for a devroom and made some wikipages for it. If you're coming or want to do more (giving a talk/presentation, organizing a brainstorm session, ...), please add your name and/or idea to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Fosdem_2010 Pieter -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FOSDEM2010-tp3895254p3900343.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community