Re: fifteen pieces...

2010-09-28 Thread Radek Polak
urodelo wrote:

 I don't know if it's important, but I've kept my home folder, with all the
 hidden folders/file too, of v24 after installing v26. Because the qtmoko
 packages are stored in the home folder, if i remember well, maybe i've
 messed up something. Could it be the cause?

Ahh sorry i thought it's v27. Then i dont know. Keeping /home should be quite 
safe these days, because file formats are unchanged between version (it can 
change in future but now it's ok).

Regards

Radek

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Re: fifteen pieces...

2010-09-28 Thread Radek Polak
Gennady Kupava wrote:
 
 Or use my working idea to get jitterless input without filtering ;)

I probably missed it and i am eager to hear more about it :)

Regards

Radek

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Re: qtmoko v27 (+ answering usability)

2010-09-28 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
 Le 27/09/2010 19:08, Alfa21 a écrit :
 2010-09...@17:32 Thomas HOCEDEZ

 and go to the dial interface
 I can confirm this.




 ooh! great, you remembered to me an annoying usability issue about the answer 
 screen:

 when I'm in a hurry or I'm walking sometimes I push the answer button twice 
 due to the latency of the gui just because I've an vibrating touch... and 
 actually I drop the incoming call :P

 is it possible to split the button in 2 so it's not the same area active on 
 the screen to do both the functions?

 ...or just reduce the size of the button and move it from left to right 
 accordingly to its active function of the moment?

 ...or substitute the button with a slide? (in this way I also do not answer 
 while I'm grabbing it out of my poket)

Yes it might be done in the Theme, I'll put it in the final release
thanks for this idea !

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Re: RTK-GPS with freerunner: decimeter-level accuracy with Free Software

2010-09-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
RANJAN infi...@gmail.com writes:
 So get DGPS does one need to have some sort of subscription or license and a
 suitable firmware on the GPS chipset..?

Yes you need an account to some GPS reference station. If you have two
receivers then you can just be your own reference station. Being your
own reference station makes things a lot easier:

1) You can trust that the service will not be going away.

2) You can use very short baselines since you can place the reference
station where you need it.




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Re: RTK-GPS with freerunner: decimeter-level accuracy with Free Software

2010-09-28 Thread RANJAN
So I have been working with this:
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8266

Can two of these chipsets or one with an FR give a decimeter accuracy? The
chipset says it supports DGPS. Or one specifically needs a receiver with
phase and carrier information in the raw data..

Ranjan

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
timo.lindf...@iki.fiwrote:

 RANJAN infi...@gmail.com writes:
  So get DGPS does one need to have some sort of subscription or license
 and a
  suitable firmware on the GPS chipset..?

 Yes you need an account to some GPS reference station. If you have two
 receivers then you can just be your own reference station. Being your
 own reference station makes things a lot easier:

 1) You can trust that the service will not be going away.

 2) You can use very short baselines since you can place the reference
 station where you need it.




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Re: AGPS - protocol specs?

2010-09-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors

On Fri Mar 9 13:46:19 CET 2007, Al Johnson wrote:
 Here's a civil device using RTK that determines the position to
 centimeter accuracy within a few seconds at ranges up to 50 km from
 a reference station

Sounds like an interesting challenge. At least rtklib 2.4.0 was unable
to resolve the integer ambiguity problem (?) when I extended the
baseline to about 30 km.

Would be nice to know if this is due to my cheap antenna, finnish
weather, a problem in rtklib or something completely different. (Yes,
I did turn off all radio transmitters during the tests and ran from
battery power only).



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Re: RTK-GPS with freerunner: decimeter-level accuracy with Free Software

2010-09-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
RANJAN infi...@gmail.com writes:
 So I have been working with this:
 http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8266

 Can two of these chipsets or one with an FR give a decimeter accuracy? The
 chipset says it supports DGPS. Or one specifically needs a receiver with
 phase and carrier information in the raw data..

My guess is no. You need a receiver that gives you raw pseudorange and
carrier phase measurements.

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Re: qtmoko v27

2010-09-28 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
 Also it can compare only system clock with RTC, so we always assume that 
 system time is correct. Calypso time - do we need it at all?
Maybe to correct drifting RTC?
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Re: [Om2008.9] log of in/out SMS and calls

2010-09-28 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2010-09-25, sob o godzinie 09:25 +0200, Matthias Apitz pisze:
 Hello,
 
 Is there some log file of send/received SMS and calls in the FR in
 release [Om2008.9]?
Hi Matthias, I do not know the answer for your question, but you
definitely should move to some newer distro.
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Re: [Om2008.9] log of in/out SMS and calls

2010-09-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, September 28, 2010 a las 01:01:53PM +0200, Patryk Benderz 
escribió:

 Dnia 2010-09-25, sob o godzinie 09:25 +0200, Matthias Apitz pisze:
  Hello,
  
  Is there some log file of send/received SMS and calls in the FR in
  release [Om2008.9]?
 Hi Matthias, I do not know the answer for your question,

Hello Patryk,

The OM is UNIX based and so there is always a way to understand and
change it the way you like.

The proc chatting with the serial phone device /dev/ttySAC0 is 'qpe',
launched by /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia; qpe logs to stdout which is
read by 'logger' which in turn writes the messages to syslogd and you
can enable in /etc/syslog.conf an let it write to /var/log/messages;
There you may grep for +CMGS, or whatever you want:

# tail /var/log/messages
Sep 28 13:38:18 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  F : OK 
Sep 28 13:38:20 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : AT+CSQ 
Sep 28 13:38:20 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  F : +CSQ: 17,99  
Sep 28 13:38:20 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  F : OK 
Sep 28 13:38:22 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : AT+CSQ 
Sep 28 13:38:22 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  F : +CSQ: 17,99  
Sep 28 13:38:22 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  F : OK 
Sep 28 13:38:24 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  T : AT+CSQ 
Sep 28 13:38:24 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  F : +CSQ: 17,99  
Sep 28 13:38:24 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat :  F : OK 

 but you
 definitely should move to some newer distro.

Why I should do this if the [Om2008.9] works for me? And to which distro today?
Thx

matthias

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Re: [Om2008.9] log of in/out SMS and calls

2010-09-28 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
 Why I should do this if the [Om2008.9] works for me?
Well, if you have such a minimalistic demands... there is no point - but
this means you are not an ordinary user of this phone and I made such
assumption while answering your previous mail, which apparently was
wrong.
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Re: [Om2008.9] log of in/out SMS and calls

2010-09-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, September 28, 2010 a las 02:15:26PM +0200, Patryk Benderz 
escribió:

 [cut]
  Why I should do this if the [Om2008.9] works for me?
 Well, if you have such a minimalistic demands... there is no point - but
 this means you are not an ordinary user of this phone and I made such
 assumption while answering your previous mail, which apparently was
 wrong.

Here is what I use of this brick:

http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt

matthias

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Re: [Om2008.9] log of in/out SMS and calls

2010-09-28 Thread Gennady Kupava
В Втр, 28/09/2010 в 14:42 +0200, Matthias Apitz пишет:
 El día Tuesday, September 28, 2010 a las 02:15:26PM +0200, Patryk Benderz 
 escribió:
 
 Here is what I use of this brick:

From what only I know, since 2009, graphic subsystem got x2 speedup (or
x1.5 without 2-4-2), lost ability to WSOD on rotation, and overall
system response increased greatly due to removing debugging and all
major distros. Try some recent distro, like qtmoko v26 and you'll
debrick you device.

Gennady.



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[X-Server] Question about Scaling an Image on the Glamo

2010-09-28 Thread Rashid
Hi guys I wrote to the xorg mailing list about scaling an image in hardware.
Since a gamoboy has native resolution of 160*144 pixel, we could scale it in 
glamo hardware easily. This would be unbelieveable faster then the current 
method since the image we neet to send the glamo would be only 1/4 of the size. 

We can use this at other applications too. 

Answer from the xorg list:
as such though the freerunner has a stretchblit in its gfx hardware. its
primitive and can only do a small subset of what xrender needs.

Thats enough if it scale the image. Someone know how to use it?

Greetz
Rashid




 
  
 Rashid wrote:
 
  is there a way to scale a pixmap / image / frame buffer content with
  native xlib-Code.
 
 No. The core X protocol doesn't include this functionality. You need
 to use an extension (e.g. XRender, Xv, GLX).

actually it is possible to scale. 2 pass xcopyarea, 1 copy per row and
column
of output. first u scale it up in 1 dimension by (for example) reading
each
source column once and writing it out twice in the ouput, and then
repeat for
rows.

it's not too cheap though. lots of cmds to the gpu, lots of protocol,
and
the column copies do nasty things to cachelines and memory fetches even
on
the gpu side. :)

aside:

as such though the freerunner has a stretchblit in its gfx hardware. its
primitive and can only do a small subset of what xrender needs.

the freerunner's gfx chip is like taking a good old ISA trident card and
pushing it to run 32bpp @ 1600x1200 because someone managed to buy a
nice
monitor cheaply and wants lots of pixels and colors because it looks
good on a
spec sheet. let's just for now assume the good old trident ISA card
could do
such an output - for the sake of the analogy. the bus to and from the
card is
weenie small. the card itself is being pushed to its absolute outer
limits in
terms of display resolution and depth attached. you can try and move
more
stuff to the gfx chip side to alleviate load on the ISA bus but even
over there life is very limited. where normally when your gfx chip is
limited
you just move the ops back to the cpu and blast them over when done,
this comes
with a big downside on the freerunner due to the ISA bus. the problem
is all
the nice modern stuff people would like will need to go back to the cpu
there.

and any read of the gfx chip programming docs clearly shows it was
intended for
qvga on a good day, and vga output for the freerunner gfx chip is an
outlier
capability but not an optimal target). so no matter what - you'll always
be
pushing poo uphill with that gfx chip unless you drop back to qvga. :)


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Re: [ANN]: Openmoko Beagle Hybrid - News

2010-09-28 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi,
someone has asked for an update even talk a little about problems...

 10. We also got some hints and offers for support to make high-density PCBs 
 that are needed for the integration of a full OMAP system onto a motherboard 
 replacement for the Freerunner. So we now think that finally, *we can do* a 
 OMAP3530 upgrade for the Freerunner. But don't expect it soon. And it may not 
 be cheap. This project will still take many small steps until we can announce 
 something. 

We have ordered 10 sample PCBs and they were
announced for last Friday but did not arrive. Today
we learned that they had a problem in the production
process and have to redo everything.

So it will take a little longer until we can show
you a GTA04 board.

Nikolaus
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Re: Help from Always Innovative ?

2010-09-28 Thread Chuck Norris
 21.09.2010 19:35, Thomas HOCEDEZ пишет:
  Le 21/09/2010 12:54, Chuck Norris a écrit :
  20.09.2010 21:26, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau пишет:
 Adding GSM to MID-device definitely will make this device extra-cool.

 Does somebody have idea how GSM could be added there?
 Voice is most important feature for me. 3G and so on, could be
 connected to touchbook part. May be its possible attach some gsm
 board? (FR's or others).

 Maksim

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 Yeah, 3G will be killer feature!
 I really like their concept of mid inside tablet inside netbook.
 But why without GSM?

 That's a question ! They have a killer MID, but without any 'mobile'
 connectivity... They may have forgotten, that's the only thing I see.

I've asked them about missing this feature.
Here are answer:

We do not have a 3G or GSM option because we do not want to force a
subscription on customers.  Instead we want to focus on using wifi and
free Skype calls.


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Re: [QtMoko] Translate into Danish

2010-09-28 Thread Ole Carlsen
Den 25-09-2010 20:37, Radek Polak skrev:
 sorry for delay, i was doing release and had to leave then. Anyway in the
 attachment is first bunch of files for translating. Rest is in my git and i 
 can
 send it later.
I have started to look at the translation but something is confusing me. 
This is a cut-out from 'QtopiaSettings.ts' and the source looks very 
strange to me? My setup is always as UTF-8 so that should be o.k. and it 
is only in 'QtopiaSettings.ts' and 'QtopiaGames.ts' I see the 'mistake' 
the other .ts files looks right.

nameAppearance/name
  message utf8=true
   location filename=../../src/server/main/tr31980.cpp line=21/
   sourceAp­pear­ance/source
   commentUse soft hyphen (char U00AD) to indicate hyphenation/comment
   translation type=unfinishedUdseende/translation
  /message

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