Re: Phone wakes up after being powered off
On Monday 21 May 2012 07:21:02 alonivtsan wrote: Hello kind members of Openmoko mailing list, I'm suffering from a very bizarre wake up problem related to the Neo Freerunner phone. The phone wakes itself up after being powered off a few hours later (e.g. if I shut the phone off before going to bed when I wake up the phone is already switched on). I thought at first this was a hardware problem related to the battery, but this doesn't seem to be the case as it has happened on two different phones after setting reminders in the QtMoko calendar (using v26). Unfortunately, even after removing the reminders the phone still wakes itself up. I'm wondering if it is possible to clear all data causing the phone to wake up. Thanks, Alon. Hi Alon, Are you sure the phone is completly shutdown e.g. did you issue init 0 from a console or ssh session? I'm currious if the phone could wake from init 0. You can try to clear the RealTimeClock by using the rtcwake command, if that is available on your phone. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone wakes up after being powered off
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 09:08 +0200, e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Alon, Are you sure the phone is completly shutdown e.g. did you issue init 0 from a console or ssh session? I'm currious if the phone could wake from init 0. You can try to clear the RealTimeClock by using the rtcwake command, if that is available on your phone. Kind regards, Ed Hello Ed, The phone was definitely off. After switching it off I verified by booting into u-boot via power and AUX buttons and selecting power off. Are the wake up settings cleared by removing the battery (e.g. for 10 minutes)? I'll test switching off the phone via the init 0 command from a terminal. rtcwake is available (in QtMoko v26) - is there a specific command I should use to prevent the phone from turning on when shut down? Thanks, Alon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ideas for a personal cluster with gta04
In the spirit of the recent ideas threads here, I'd like to share my ideas that I would like to achieve with the gta04, as part of a larger system. I wrote it in an article format, and it isn't finished, but nothing ever is. So here goes. ** introduction I'm interested in free client - server clusters, with wearable nodes, and laptop nodes. Free software is pretty strong server side, but somewhat weaker on the client, especially small systems such as phones. It should be possible to leverage the server side strength on the client machines. Since a server is part of the equation, complexity can be offloaded there. The idea is somewhat like an instance of the Google or Apple stack, but personal, running on your own servers, and geared towards making it possible for you to do what you want rather than generating ad revenue streams. ** concretely Okay, so what does that mumbo-jumbo translate to in practice? Concretely I'm working on a Puppet server manifest, that describes all the services one might want to use on the server, and matching client software that runs on the phone and/or laptop. Since the point is that you should not need weeks to set all this up, I make concrete choices. These will not appeal to everyone, but are of course open for discussion. *** flatrate 3G/4G The internet connection is assumed to be flatrate. It's pretty cheap here in Sweden anyway. The connection must of course still be assumed to be intermittent. *** Fedora I'm used to Fedora, so I will use that for a base operating system. *** Puppet Puppet handles the configuration. Puppet can be used on most distributions. *** Nagios Nagios is used for monitoring, so a competetive uptime can be achieved. *** Single sign on The personal cluster consists of many different services. To make them more integrated, the 389 ldap server is used to provide a shared user database, and the different services are configured to authenticate against the 389 instance. *** Dovecot IMAPD Mail is important to the personal cluster. Dovecot is a good imapd. It is lightweight, yet featureful. *** mapping/location data open streetmap maps. A gpsd on the client feeds the cluster with location data. *** instant messaging irc clients on the laptop or phone uses the server as gateway to other systems. Bitlbee is used for the proxy. znc fronts bitlbee, which handles the connections and logging. *** social networks A private diaspora instance is used as mediator. *** voip linphone is used on the client, and asterisk on the server. *** camera All photos are uploaded to the server, and things like bar code scanning etc. can be made server side. *** woodchuck Woodchuck is a system to handle a mobile cache, when the connection to the cluster is down. http://hssl.cs.jhu.edu/~neal/woodchuck/ *** server side transcoding many media formats on the web are not really suitable for mobile applications. The personal cluster handles this by downloading and transcoding the media server side, and then making it accessible to the client. -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stop whininig / be friendly
Hi Christoph, openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) writes: thanks for your advices, which are intelligent ones, really. You are right, bitterness is what I feel. Why ? ... Coming to an end with my rant, 50% may be my personal bitterness, but 50% are in some way true. The fail of Openmoko is the proove. Very well justified and open and transparent mail. Big thanks for your frankness, and best of luck in your complicated business. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone wakes up after being powered off
My phone has always suffered for this weird bug too. No matter which distro I use, if I turn it off, even by taking away the battery and after some minutes putting it back, after some minutes the haunted fr goes back to life. This is especially a botehr when you have an alarm set on qtmoko and didn't use it when the alarm should ring: it rings once the os is up and running; it's a bother when you turn off the pphone and go to sleep and then it wakes up and begin to ring for the old alarm Sorry, I didn't find any solution. You can check old msg on this ml, others (included me) have reported this issue. urodelo On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:20:03 +0200, alonivtsan alonivt...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 09:08 +0200, e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Alon, Are you sure the phone is completly shutdown e.g. did you issue init 0 from a console or ssh session? I'm currious if the phone could wake from init 0. You can try to clear the RealTimeClock by using the rtcwake command, if that is available on your phone. Kind regards, Ed Hello Ed, The phone was definitely off. After switching it off I verified by booting into u-boot via power and AUX buttons and selecting power off. Are the wake up settings cleared by removing the battery (e.g. for 10 minutes)? I'll test switching off the phone via the init 0 command from a terminal. rtcwake is available (in QtMoko v26) - is there a specific command I should use to prevent the phone from turning on when shut down? Thanks, Alon. -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone wakes up after being powered off
Hi Alon, Funny, i never known that it was capable of waking from power down, i always wake from suspend. There is no need tot test the init 0 scenario, powering down from u-boot is a real powerdown. Anyhow, rtcwake has a mode disable, which should disable the RTC alarms. See man rtcwake for more info Kind regards, Ed Hello Ed, Thanks for your replies. Unfortunately the man command doesn't work with rtcwake on the phone (but does with other software, e.g. 7zr). A specific command to try would be very helpful. On the desktop running as root rtcwake -m show shows the alarms that are on (but this command does not work on the phone, specifically on QtMoko v26). I noticed the issue regarding the phone turning itself on was reported in Android on Freerunner's bug tracker here: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=24 trevi55 suggested to switch off alarms and update hardware clock. I'll try this (using echo -e W\n /var/spool/at/trigger). Alon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
