Re: #1024-rework service available

2009-10-23 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:59:06 am Steven ** wrote:

 Is there someone offering a similar service in the US?

Or Australia ?

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Re: Glamo

2009-10-21 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:59:04 am abatrour wrote:

 I have already contacted koolu and am waiting a response.

I think Koolu have gone, the new Android on Freerunner folks tried to contact 
them a lot with no success before deciding they had to go their own way. :-(

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Re: deep sleep on Android, was Re: QtMoko v14

2009-10-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 05:53:36 pm Petr Vanek wrote:

 thank you, please keep us posted if anything changes...

Michael Trimarchi (Panicking) is on the case already. :-)

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Re: deep sleep on Android, was Re: QtMoko v14

2009-10-17 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:28:37 pm Petr Vanek wrote:

 Would anyone know the about same setup for Android?

Just forwarded that query to the android-on-freerunner Google group, will see 
what they say..

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Re: deep sleep on Android, was Re: QtMoko v14

2009-10-17 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:28:37 pm Petr Vanek wrote:

 Would anyone know the about same setup for Android?

Currently Android on Freerunner is hard coded to use AT%SLEEP=2 to avoid deep 
sleep mode entirely; your email has prompted discussion of making it an 
editable property in Androids init.rc startup file.

I don't believe there is an adaptive mode like FSO and QtMoko have at present.

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Re: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

2009-09-27 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:14:32 am Warren Baird wrote:

 Is there a summary somewhere around what works and what doesn't, and how
 close it is to being usable as an 'every day' phone?

I'm using Michael Panicking Trimarchi's v15 image as an everyday phone and 
it works nicely.

I've got working GSM (no echo), SMS, Wifi  GPS and I can easily set Ogg files 
as my ringtone through the Android Music application (tested with Ziggy 
Stardust by Bauhaus :-) ).  Bluetooth can see other BT devices but I've never 
tried to use it.

Be aware that some of the Android applications you might expect to find if 
you've seen a G1 (Android Market, Maps, Google Talk, Voice, GMail, etc) won't 
be there as they're not open source and you're not permitted to redistribute 
them (as the Cyanogenmod maintainer has just discovered the hard way when 
Google asked him to stop distributing his alternative firmware for the G1 with 
those apps in).

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Re: Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:16:11 am Christopher Friedt wrote:

 I'm definitely looking into getting in touch with Michael Trimarchi.
 I'm interested to see if he can get some of the libglamo / glamo-dri
 code to fit in with Android's GL implimentation.

He has two public git trees which seem to contain his work, might be of use ?

http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/repository.html

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Re: Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:16:11 am Christopher Friedt wrote:

 I'm definitely looking into getting in touch with Michael Trimarchi.

Forgot to mention, he has been active on the Koolu android-freerunner list:

 http://android.koolu.org/listinfo.cgi/android-freerunner-koolu.org

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Re: How does well does this community work?

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:27:20 am Roland Whitehead wrote:

 I am working with the 40 Fires Foundation [http://www.40fires.org] to  
 try to build a framework for the development of open source hardware.  
 You might have heard that the first project is the hyrban car - a  
 car powered by a hydrogen fuel cell

First off this is a great idea!  Best of luck.

Secondly it looks like the RiverSimple website is down. :-(

Another suggestion on getting the word out about the project:

- get accounts on Twitter and Identi.ca (FLOSS friendly version of Twitter)
- Set Identi.ca to sync updates with your Twitter account
- post news headlines to Identi.ca with links to the story
  (use bit.ly to make them short)
- Identi.ca will then sync them through to Twitter

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Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-21 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:01:53 pm Thomas White wrote:

 It's important to note that, at this stage, the work is less about
 performance and more about laying a solid basis for DRI [1].

I don't know if it's of interest, but Michael Trimarchi who does the Panicking 
port of Android to the FreeRunner is also working on Glamo DRM support for 
Android.

http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php?entry=entry090810-231610

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Android Donut on FreeRunner (was Re: Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian)

2009-08-21 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:49:09 am Christopher Friedt wrote:

 I've since become a bit fixated with Android Donut on my FreeRunner,
 and am just about finished building an ARMv4T generic version of Donut
 (hopefully everything links ok without relocations!). Next I'll have
 to try to integrate a massive diff of the KoolU-Cupcake changeset with
 Donut (ugghh..).

I reckon it would be worth looking at pulling in Michael Trimarchi's 
(Panicking) changes too.  He's got echo suppression working, not to mention it 
being much faster than the Koolu builds.

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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:18:08 pm c_c wrote:

 I did SetCellBroadcastSubscriptions for channel 50 and got nothing.

Got a vague memory that it's channel 11 here in Australia, I'm no longer 
running QtMoko so I can't check I'm afraid. :-(

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Re: Getting location info from cell tower

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:42:06 pm c_c wrote:

 An how do I obtain this? I'm looking at showing this info on launcher's
 homescreen.

Qtopia/QTEI/QtMoko can extract that info, so a look at the source for that 
should give away how it's done.

FWIW I don't think Android can display it yet either. ;-)

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Kernel Mode-Setting (KMS) on Neo FreeRunner + Debian

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Samuel
I haven't seen anyone else post about this yet, but this looks really neat!

(Found via Planet Ubuntu)

http://losca.blogspot.com/2009/08/kernel-mode-setting-kms-on-neo.html

# Forget AMD, Intel, NVIDIA! Thomas White's incredible work with Neo
# FreeRunner's puny graphics dec...accelerator, Smedia Glamo 3362 is starting
# to bear fruits.  [...]
# 
# The camera shot on the right, running KMS-enabled X.org driver for the glamo
# chip on my Debian installation (visible software matchbox-window-manager,
# fbpanel, zhone), is a bit optimistic looking since Zhone happens to draw
# correctly. A lot of the drawing is not yet synced correctly, which shows as
# all text and images in eg. GTK applications being garbled. But as little as
# two days ago one couldn't yet much launch applications without X crashing,
# so the newest commits by Thomas were a big step forwards. I'm using Debian,
# and he's not, so I try to find time to help in debugging even though I
# really can't much help with the driver code.
#
# The driver is not just one piece of code, but consists of a kernel drm
# driver (direct rendering manager) using GEM, libdrm support for the kernel
# driver and finally the X.org driver supporting these other components and
# offering buzz-words like DRI2. There is also a beginning of a Mesa 3D
# driver, though it is so far just a skeleton driver since the 2D/KMS/EXA/DRM
# parts are what should be done first before dwelling into the OpenGL realm.
[...]

Even has an excerpt from the X servers log file with:

# (WW) Glamo(0): EXA hardware acceleration initialising
# (II) EXA(0): Driver allocated offscreen pixmaps
# (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations:
# (II) Solid
# (II) Copy
# (II) Glamo(0): Initialized EXA acceleration

Thomas's own blog is here:

http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/

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Re: Unabel to SSH into Neo Freerunner

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:37:00 pm Mikhail Umorin wrote:

 AFAIK android does not have ssh server. you can use adb to connect.

You're quite correct, Tom will need to do adb shell instead.

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Re: Unabel to SSH into Neo Freerunner

2009-08-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:08:12 am Niels Heyvaert wrote:

 Basically these were the same steps I was already doing (except I need to
 modprobe g_ehter first).

Um, don't you mean cdc_ether ?   That's what I'm using..

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Re: [qtmoko] Not recieving all sms

2009-08-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:11:23 am Alexander Syring wrote:

 I think the problem is that the phone doesn't wake up on sms. If the phone
 is online I get all sms directly. But if the phone is in power safe the
 sms stay on sim and messages doesn't call them

This appears to be fixed for me with the v6 release of QtMoko.

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Re: [android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?

2009-08-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:30:33 pm Damian Spriggs wrote:

 Fix for incoming call to voicemail bug:

Hmm, whilst it means I can place outgoing calls it still seems like every time 
I reboot Android it goes back to all calls diverted to voicemail and I need to 
manually tell it to to go and automatically register on the network (at which 
point it tells me there was an error getting the list of networks).

Very odd!  I think I'll go back to trying some of the other distros for now.

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Re: [android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?

2009-08-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:30:33 pm Damian Spriggs wrote:

 Fix for incoming call to voicemail bug:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/android-freerun...@android.koolu.org/msg01047.html

Thanks so much for that, it seemed to fix that problem!

Also found this nice little application to import contacts from a
vcard 2.1 file into Android..

http://andappstore.com/AndroidApplications/apps/109392

Much obliged..
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Re: [android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?

2009-08-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:16:23 pm Chris Samuel wrote:

 Hmm, whilst it means I can place outgoing calls it still seems like every
 time I reboot Android it goes back to all calls diverted to voicemail and I
 need to manually tell it to to go and automatically register on the network

Scratch that, I just wasn't leaving it for long enough!

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Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:02:45 am Patryk Benderz wrote:

 I use Evolution 2.26.1 and do not see this prefix... bug in Evo?

Nope, I don't see it in KMail and it's not in the raw message.

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Re: [QtMoko] new images v6

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:54:31 am Radek Polak wrote:

 i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images.

Awesome!  Is it possible to dist-upgrade to this new version ?

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[android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks,

Does anyone know if the Android images at:

 http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/

does suspend/resume at all ?

I last tried the Koolu ones a few months back and I don't believe they could 
suspend/resume at all..

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Re: FSO Going Out of the Distro Business? - Questions

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:36:58 pm Nicola Mfb wrote:

 Hi Christophe, you just anticipate me a bit, I'm just doing the same
 of you branching shr-import, and trying to have qt4.5.2, kernel
 2.6.30.1, qalee, litephone and my apps on it.

Sounds interesting! I haven't been keeping up with this side of things, is it 
possible yet to import a vcard address book into it yet ?

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Re: [android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?

2009-08-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:54:13 pm Michael Sheldon wrote:

  I don't know about the panicking image, but the koolu cupcake alpha 1
 image suspends fine for me: http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/

Sadly it appears that this image still has the issues of not registering 
correctly with Vodafone in Australia (reported to Koolu 30th May), resulting 
in all calls being permanently diverted to voicemail. :-(

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Re: [qtmoko] Not recieving all sms

2009-08-03 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:30:05 am Radek Polak wrote:

 could you send the log? Can you also try to delete SMS on your sim? I
 dont have much experience with GSM but i could try to take a look at it.
 Btw i have just tried send SMS to my phone and it worked.

I just sent myself a test SMS and had to reboot to be able to receive it.

I have enabled AT command logging and I see this in the logs:

Aug  3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat :  t : AT+CPBS=EN
Aug  3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat :  F : EXT: I
Aug  3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat :  F : ERROR
Aug  3 21:44:53 neo Qtopia: AtChat :  T : AT+CIND=?
Aug  3 21:44:58 neo Qtopia: AtChat :  F : +CIND: (signal, (0-5)), 
(smsfull, (0-1))
Aug  3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat :  f : AT+CPBS=EN
Aug  3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat :  f : OK
Aug  3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat :  t : AT+CPBR=1,2
Aug  3 21:44:59 neo Qtopia: AtChat :  F : OK
Aug  3 21:45:00 neo Qtopia: Unable to complete service: NewSmsArrival - 
timeout

Any use ?

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Re: Do I need a FAT SD card? Do I need OM? Do I need... ? Choices, Choices, Choices...

2009-07-19 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:53:03 am li...@kitepilot.com wrote:

 Can I just ext3 the SD card ?

Be warned, there have been some reports of the journal of ext3 wearing out its 
part of the SD card. I tend to use ext2 instead.

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Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

2009-06-28 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:23:14 pm Michal Brzozowski wrote:

 I think it was pretty reliable too, except the duplicating sms bug. But
 that's not a big deal I think.

That's fixed in QtMoko, which is a great relief! :-)

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Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia

2009-06-17 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:52:24 pm Denis Johnson wrote:

 I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and
 I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a buzz fix
 party or if there is somewhere overseas I can send my Freerunner to
 get fixed.

I guess the first question to ask yourself is do I have the buzz problem ?

I've been really happy with mine in the UK, US and here in Australia and 
nobody has complained about any buzzing (yet).  I think I'd only consider this 
if it was causing me problems..

Just my 2c!
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Re: [QtEI]Moving from Qt Extended Improved to QtMoko

2009-06-15 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:04:51 pm HouYu Li wrote:

 Hi, Openmoko fans, I decided to drop qt-extended-improved and moving to
 qtmoko. I am not able to do it on myself, and qtmoko is going further. So
 now go to qtmoko.org for further information. Thank your support all the
 time. The trac is still open for reference, but changed to
 http://trac.karadog.net/qtmoko.

 I am sorry.

Don't be sorry, you got this whole thing going! :-)

Thanks so much for your time and effort and for inspiring others to work on 
this too.

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:26:01 am Chris Samuel wrote:

 I can confirm that GPS worked on Qtopia and QtE for me, haven't tried it
 under QtMoko yet.

I can confirm the Mapping Demo program works for me in QtMoko with the 
2.6.24mw-g291a9d50 kernel (uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin and 
associated modules).

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 05:23:41 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 Hi Chris,

Hiya,

 if this is true, then there's probably a kernel module issue in 2.6.28
 with QtMoko. This needs to be tested then.

Could well be!  I did have TangoGPS working with OM2009 TR4 too (using their 
supplied 2.6.29-rc2 kernel, which has the wrong filename, claims to be 
2.6.28!).

 But again: I never managed to get a fix with any distro, so I don't
 think it will be possible for me to do testing at all, but when I get
 back from holidays I'll try to spend some time on this issue.

No worries, if there's anything I can do to help then please let me know!  I 
suppose it could also be a hardware issue on your phone too.. :-(

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-07 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 01:11:47 am Ori Pessach wrote:

 At one point, GPS was working (with an older release of QTopia from
 Trolltech.)

I can confirm that GPS worked on Qtopia and QtE for me, haven't tried it under 
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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 05:02:29 am Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 It's been a while, but we haven't been sleeping :-)

Thanks so much for all this work Franky, et. al!

One thing I've noticed (after playing around with the other distros) is that 
it seems like QtMoko takes a lot longer to resume from suspend than my older 
2.6.24 based QtEI I was running (though the other bug fixes more than make up 
for it!).

If I try the older kernel (uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin) will 
that break anything in the QtMoko image or install ?

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:03:35 pm Chris Samuel wrote:

 If I try the older kernel (uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin) will
 that break anything in the QtMoko image or install ?

Well I've just given it a shot and it feels like it's roughly halved the 
amount of time it takes the phone to resume, which is great!

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:56:14 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 well, there we're indeed dependent on the kernel itself. Is this a
 stable 2.6.28-based kernel?

It's 2.6.24mw-g291a9d50 - much older!

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Re: [Om2009] a community effort

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:45:12 pm Paul Fertser wrote:

 Not sure if all the delays and actions are needed, it's anyway much
 faster than rebooting.

Thanks for that Paul, but for now I've gone back to QtMoko now that some of 
the more frustrating bugs have apparently been fixed.  Will keep an eye on 
what else is going on though!

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Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:28:07 pm Cameron Frazier wrote:

 My understanding is that not respecting the /boot/append-GTA0[123] is
 a NAND-only hardcoded limitation, since NAND has different partitions
 for ROOTFS and KERNEL.

I suspect that it's more to do with the fact that Qi only understands 
ext2/ext3 and so can't mount a JFFS2 (or FAT) filesystem to look inside it.

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Re: SHR testing won't boot - jffs2 error ?

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:43:17 am Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:

 You need to upgrade the kernel then.

Is this one not the right one ?

http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-
latest.bin

 I see you mention 2.6.28 in another message.

That was about Om2009..

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Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks,

Am I right in thinking that if you are using Qi and have flashed a JFFS2 image 
to your NAND which has a /boot with a kernel in it then it will boot that 
kernel in preference to the one that you have flashed directly with dfu-util ?

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Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:09:02 pm Paul Fertser wrote:

 No, Qi doesn't support jffs2.

That's what I thought.

But, in that case, how come my Om2009 phone boots into 2.6.29-rc2 (which is
in /boot in the JFFS2 image) and not to the 2.6.28 image I've flashed to it ?

Flashed with:

dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D 
uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0+f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413-
r2-om-gta02.bin

But boots into:

Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc2 #1 PREEMPT Thu May 21 17:06:24 CEST 2009 armv4tl 
unknown

Both are listed in okpg!

r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | fgrep kernel | head
kernel - 2.6.28-stable+gitr0+f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413-r2 -
kernel-2.6.29-rc2 - 
2.6.28-stable+gitr0+f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413-r2 -

It's not coming off the SD card as that's a single partition with
just the OSM tiles for TangoGPS on it.

r...@om-gta02:~# ls /media/card/
lost+found  Maps


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Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:49:11 pm Paul Fertser wrote:

 File name is wrong, the kernel is 2.6.29 actually. Look at the git
 hash.

Ahh, good call, eventually traced it to this to confirm that..

http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob_plain;f=Makefile;hb=f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413

VERSION = 2
PATCHLEVEL = 6
SUBLEVEL = 29
EXTRAVERSION += -rc2
NAME = Erotic Pickled Herring

Phew, so I'm not going mad!

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Re: SHR testing won't boot - jffs2 error ?

2009-05-31 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 31 May 2009 12:18:31 pm Chris Samuel wrote:

 This might be a false alarm, I just put OM2009 TR4 back on and noticed that
 when I ssh'd in it was running 2.6.29-rc2, not the 2.6.28 TR4 kernel I'd
 just flashed.

It appears that this is down to Qi, it's booting the 2.6.29-rc2 kernel from 
/boot in the Om2009 TR4 filesystem in NAND, not the 2.6.28 kernel I flashed.

I was getting confused thinking that it could be booting the Android kernel 
off of the first partition on the SD card, but it only does that if it's 
ext2/ext3 and (fortunately) it's FAT16.

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Re: [android] new cupcake image (Panicking)

2009-05-30 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 21 May 2009 03:29:44 am Russell Dwiggins wrote:

 Just tested this, but having a problem.  Kernel seems to boot OK, and the
 Android splash comes up, but then seems to loop (animation starts,
 pauses, then starts again).

I've been experiencing just the same issue with this image, and trying the 
14.6 image is even worse, that white screens then reboots cyclically. :-(

This is with and SD card created as per:

 http://www.newlc.com/en/freerunner-mobile-which-support-android-cupcake

*apart* from the fact that parted tells me the 3rd partition is too large to 
be a FAT16 partition, so I've set it to be 256MB in size.

I'm beginning to wonder if it's related to the fact that it's a large SD card, 
so I'm going to try it with a much smaller one.

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Re: [android] new cupcake image (Panicking)

2009-05-30 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 30 May 2009 10:57:19 pm Chris Samuel wrote:

 I'm beginning to wonder if it's related to the fact that it's a large SD
 card, so I'm going to try it with a much smaller one.

Nope, same behaviour with freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v6.jffs2, following the 
instructions to the letter.. :-(

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Re: [android] new cupcake image (Panicking)

2009-05-30 Thread Chris Samuel
Hello,

On Sun, 31 May 2009 12:00:45 am RzR www.rzr.online.fr wrote:

 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote:
  On Thu, 21 May 2009 03:29:44 am Russell Dwiggins wrote:
  This is with and SD card created as per:
 
   http://www.newlc.com/en/freerunner-mobile-which-support-android-cupcake

 hi
 i am the author of this page

Thanks for that!

  *apart* from the fact that parted tells me the 3rd partition is too large
  to be a FAT16 partition, so I've set it to be 256MB in size.

 it can probally be shrinked sure

It's only necessary for me because of the size of the SD card and, as I 
mentioned, using your parted command with the SD card that ships with the FR I 
get the same behaviour too.

 I'll test latest image soon...

I'd love to hear what you find!

 what would be neat is to install the whole system on the sd card and
 boot on it , there are some hints on om wiki

Agreed.

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Re: [Android] Koolu Beta7 was: Some problems with Android on GTA02

2009-05-30 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:56:41 pm Chris Samuel wrote:

 I found that with both beta7 and beta6 that all calls were automatically
 diverted to voicemail and if I tried to change that in the Android call
 forwarding settings I would get the message that it was sending the new
 settings to the network and then, a while later, I'd get a message saying
 that there had been an unexpected response from the network. :-(

I had a query from Brian at Koolu about the logcat -b radio output and I've 
passed that information, but for the rest this seems to be where the issue 
lies:

D/RILJ(  893): [0083] SET_CALL_FORWARD 0 0 10
D/RIL (  785): onRequest: SET_CALL_FORWARD
D/AT  (  785): MUX[1] AT+CCFC=0,0,61414121000,129,1
D/AT  (  785): MUX[1] +CME ERROR: 4
D/RILJ(  893): [0083] SET_CALL_FORWARD error: 
com.android.internal.telephony.gsm.CommandException: GENERIC_FAILURE

Apparently CME ERROR 4 is an operation not supported error, so I'm not quite 
sure what's going on there! :-)

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SHR testing won't boot - jffs2 error ?

2009-05-30 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi all,

In my continuing time of playing around with distros on my FR I thought I'd 
give SHR a pop, but I'm not having much luck.  The latest unstable SHR image 
file shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 won't boot, I get the Qi related messages 
about unknown boot options for it trying to set the MAC address, and then 
nothing more.

So I tried SHR testing but (as well as the above messages) I get this:

Argh. No free space left for GC. nr_erasing blocks is 0. nr_free_blocks is 0. 
(erasableempty: yes, erasingempty: yes, erasependingempty: yes)
Error garbage collecting node at 0016!

Any thoughts ?

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Re: SHR testing won't boot - jffs2 error ?

2009-05-30 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 31 May 2009 10:05:44 am Chris Samuel wrote:

 The latest unstable SHR image file shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 won't boot

I get very similar behaviour to this with the shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2 
testing release image.

I don't get the GC error that the full testing version gives, just three non-
Qi related kernel messages, one about pcf50633-rtc being unable to read the 
hardware clock and two others about regulators and then it just hangs. :-(

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Re: SHR testing won't boot - jffs2 error ?

2009-05-30 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sun, 31 May 2009 10:05:44 am Chris Samuel wrote:

 In my continuing time of playing around with distros on my FR I thought I'd
 give SHR a pop, but I'm not having much luck.  The latest unstable SHR
 image file shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 won't boot,

This might be a false alarm, I just put OM2009 TR4 back on and noticed that 
when I ssh'd in it was running 2.6.29-rc2, not the 2.6.28 TR4 kernel I'd just 
flashed.

I'd previously installed Android Koolu7 and it had left the kernel on the 
first partition and I'd forgotten that Qi will load a kernel off the SD card 
before the internal flash!

Oops..

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Exporting OM2008 contacts to VCard (was Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend)

2009-05-29 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:59:43 pm Max wrote:

 How to export contacts from om2008.12 to vcard?

If it works the same way as Qt Extended I just set up
an SMTP server and told it to send all contacts by email.

 Is it possible to handle sms messages in the same way?

I doubt it, IIRC they're stored in the Sqlite DB.

 How does it work with non-latin characters?

Not very well I would suspect, I've one contact with a name which was exported 
with quoted printable encoding, but it just got imported as is to the Paroli 
database. :-(

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Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend

2009-05-28 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 28 May 2009 05:42:14 am Tom Yates wrote:

 does anyone else get this?

I recently decided to try OM2009 TR4 (happy so far after finding the Python 
script to create a contacts database from vcard format info) and noticed this 
issue when I tried to call the phone from my landline to check it would wake 
from suspend.  I didn't answer the call so +1 for the unanswered call issue.

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Re: [Android] Koolu Beta7 was: Some problems with Android on GTA02

2009-05-28 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:27:54 am Levy wrote:

 Beta7 is really nice

I found that with both beta7 and beta6 that all calls were automatically 
diverted to voicemail and if I tried to change that in the Android call 
forwarding settings I would get the message that it was sending the new 
settings to the network and then, a while later, I'd get a message saying that 
there had been an unexpected response from the network. :-(

This is with Vodafone Australia, reflashing to another firmware (Neovento 
initially, now on OM2009) had it going straight away without even trying to 
make any changes, so I can only think that it's something odd with how it was 
doing the network registration.

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Re: OM2009t4: failure to suspend

2009-05-28 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:51:56 pm Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

 Where's that script?

http://www.mail-archive.com/supp...@lists.openmoko.org/msg04770.html

 And how many contacts do you have?

I think it said it wrote about 149 contacts out, but that's because many of 
them have multiple numbers (home, work, mobile, etc).

 Does it handle a large volume well?

It wrote out the file really quickly, I don't think that'd be an issue..

 I have over 200 contacts, and up until Om2008.12 my main grips were that I
 couldn't search contacts and scrolling such a large list was a PITA,

That's definitely a problem in Paroli at present, you need to just scroll down 
the list to find the person you're after. :-(

I sort of like the way that Neovento does it where it displays N contacts on a 
page with arrows to go backwards and forwards in the list, it avoids 
accidentally selecting a contact for instance.

 and also that it would have a seemingly randomlyish sorted order (not
 insertion order, not alphabetical, etc... BUT it had two sets of ordered
 contacts)

As I've rebuild my contact list from scratch this doesn't seem to be too much 
of an issue for me, though I don't know how it orders the ones in its own DB 
versus the ones on the SIM.

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Re: Android call volume still an issue ?

2009-05-25 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi Ian,

On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:46:31 am Ian Stephen wrote:

 I am using Koolu's beta 6 release and call volume is no more quiet than it
 was using OM2008.  Perhaps better in fact as with OM2008 I always had to
 turn up the slider as soon as a call was connected while with Android the
 call volume is OK.  I'm not even sure there is a way to adjust it.  Will
 have to look for that.

OK, that sounds promising on that point..

 Battery life seems short.  With OM2008 it had become good enough that I
 didn't think about charging the phone all the time.  Using Android I have
 to remember to plug the phone in during the day again.

With QtEI I am currently recharging every other day (except when it 
occasionally fails to autosuspend, which a reboot fixes) so remembering to 
charge during the day would be a pain (and not always possible). :-(

Talking to a friend of mine at work who has an Android dev phone from the US 
he reckons he's got better battery life out of it since running cupcake, but I 
don't know if the same will apply with it on a FR.

 Speaker phone seems to turn off all volume, though I haven't tried it with
 a headset.

I never use it that way, so not an issue for me. :-)

 There seems to be more buzz than with OM2008 or perhaps it is just more
 apparent because of battery life being shorter.  With any distribution, my
 Freerunner seems to buzz more when battery is low.

Perhaps it's because I'm in Australia but I've never experienced the buzz 
problem (yet), so maybe I'm just lucky..

 I haven't tried wifi or gps and observations are not quantified in any way
 as I am just using the phone rather than really thinking about testing.

Much appreciated though!

All the best,
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Android call volume still an issue ?

2009-05-23 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks,

Sorry for being so quiet recently, I've been absolutely buried at work and 
that's overspilled into my home life. :(

I'm pondering trying out Android on my FR but was worried by some of the 
comments on the Wiki about very low volume during voice calls - is that still 
an issue with the latest builds ?

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 11

2009-05-23 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 4 May 2009 09:21:15 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

   - the building of the contact list is slow (because of too
 many SQL statements)

Could it also be related to the kernel sqlite performance regression that 
existed between 2.6.26-2.6.28 (fixed in 2.6.29) ? 

Details (and patch) here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-ker...@lists.debian.org/msg44030.html

Benchmark results for 2.6.24 to 2.6.29 here (sqlite at the bottom of the 
page):

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_2629_benchmarksnum=4

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Re: qt extended stops receiving sms

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Glen Ogilvie wrote:

   Hi,

 Tried fscking and it didn't seem to fix the problem.

 Any other idea's?

Given I've only had this happen recently once, and it's been
fine ever since, I'm not sure.. :-(

I guess you could try updating your Calypso firmware to moko11 if you've not 
already done so, don't know if that will help with this though..

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing

I did mine with the uSD image, worked nicely (even if the screen
blanker gave me a fright at first!).

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Re: qt extended stops receiving sms

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Glen Ogilvie wrote:

 I've been having a problem with QT Extended not receiving txt messages.

Well after having this work for ages I rebooted my phone today after being 
told I'd been SMS'd in the morning and received nothing and found 4 new SMS's 
turn up over the past 10 days!

This is with 4.4.2 - hoping to finally upgrade to 4.4.3 tonight!

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Re: GPS emergency call standards

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, arne anka wrote:

 well, it fits the wet dreams of germany's current top terrorists hunter  
 (register everyone who buys a sim card) -- and there are no numbers  
 mentioned of abuse.

In 2003 our local telco monopoly released numbers show about 70% of emergency 
calls were not real - so about 7 million false calls to 000 (the Australian 
emergency number) in *Melbourne* each year.  That's getting on for 2 per head 
of population.

That includes hoaxes, mistakes, fax machines (yes, really), unlocked
mobiles pocket-dialing 000, school kids, people calling 000 to report a car 
blocking their drive because their local police station went to an answer 
phone, etc..

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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote:

 did you built it yourself or are you using binary from somewhere?

I think he's using the latest (as I write) snapbuild from here:

http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/wiki/SnapBuilds

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Re: [QtExtended] some things

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Dale Maggee wrote:

 Personal insults are completely valid and infact necessary when someone
 provokes me by lying to me and/or being an idiot.

I'm sorry but I disagree entirely, if you have to resort to that then you have 
already lost the argument.

Now will both of you please take this flame war to private email where it 
belongs.

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Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, xChris wrote:

 When the ogg file  has the extension .oga, (it has a mediaplayer icon) I
 cannot play it, as the system says 'the media system is not configured to
 handle this request'

That's a generic error message in QtopiaMediaProvider::createSession() which
results from any error in the call to:

QMediaServerSession*mediaSession = 
d-sessionManager-createSession(request);

Unfortunately I'm not a C++ programmer so I'm pretty much lost after
that point!

 If I rename it as .ogg, its not recognized as audio/media file.

That's bizzare - according to qtopia/etc/mime.types we have:

audio/ogg   oga
audio/ogg+vorbisogg

and the Tremor Ogg plugin appears to register itself as knowing about
audio/ogg+vorbis by doing this:

d-mimeTypes  audio/ogg+vorbis;

The desktop file for the media player should now make it believe it can
handle both audio/ogg and audio/ogg+vorbis.

So I would have thought it would recognise audio/ogg and audio/ogg+vorbis
as audio files and, if anything, not be able to handle a .oga file by handle
the .ogg files (as the MIME types match).  Perhaps the second part is why the
error occurs ?

Very very peculiar!  I'm out of ideas for now - anyone else ?

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Re: date and GPS related questions

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Monday 16 March 2009, Daniel Willmann wrote:

 I think (not sure) that Qt Extended uses the time(zone) cellbroadcast
 messages which are broadcasted by some operators.

Yeah, I think you're right, the code says:

The TimeUpdate service monitors time and timezone data from sources
such as the modem and updates the system time and timezone accordingly.

I can't find where it actually polls the modem though.

 In Germany for example nobody sends these so the framework looks up the
 country code of the GSM cell we're logged in and changes the timezone
 according to the zone this country belongs to. This is
 problematic/inaccurate/annoying for countries that span different
 timezones like the USA, Russia, Australia

Yup, and don't assume that all TZ's are 1 hour apart, Adelaide is 30 minutes 
different from here.. ;-)

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Re: [QtExtended] some things

2009-03-15 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

 Some initial things I found after a first boot:

Out of interest, which version of QtExtended were you testing ?

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Re: date and GPS related questions

2009-03-15 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Daniel Willmann wrote:

 Timezone will be set according to the nationality of the GSM network
 you're associated to. Since this is annoying for a couple of people
 we'll probably make this optional/prompt for new timezone.

Qt Extended has 3 options for this - Always, Ask and Off.

Mind you I've never had Always or Ask work for me (in 4.4.2, not tried 4.4.3 
yet) so I'm not sure if the functionality works in it, or whether it's just 
not finding what it expects to find.

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Re: [PATCH] Add audio/ogg support to MediaPlayer

2009-03-14 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 15 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 I saw your ticket. I will submit the patch.

Thanks for that!

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[Qt Extended 4.4.3] Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-13 Thread Chris Samuel
On Friday 13 March 2009, andrew howlett wrote:

 Lorn, Chris:

 thank you!

A pleasure!

 I ssh'd to my FreeRunner and added a line to
 /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/mime.types:

 audio/ogg+vorbis oga ogg s

Yup, that'd work too (and is probably a better solution) - I presume the 's' 
is a typo ?

 Now I can play them using mediaplayer.

Great stuff!

HouYu, can we get this into the Git tree please ?

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-13 Thread Chris Samuel
On Friday 13 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote:

 IMO all the needed callbacks are already there.

Great!  You can tell I'm not a programmer can't you.. :-)

 Attached is patch that fixes echo for both incoming and outgoing calls. I
 have also binary [1].

Fab, thanks!

 Next step is to send AT%N0187 on init and after call is made (as
 suggested by Joerg). Answering and making calls could by a bit faster
 but no idea if it will be noticable.

Agreed - I guess you're including resuming on suspend in the init part ?

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Re: [PATCH] Add echo/noise reduction to processing of CNAP messages

2009-03-12 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 I think it should be some where in the NeoCallProvider::cpiNotification
 function. The comment says Call progress notification for the NEO device.

The patch I sent does the AT commands just before it tells you who is calling 
you, which is why I thought it might be the best place.

It's midnight here now so I'll take another look over the next few days (back 
to work tomorrow!).

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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wednesday 11 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 Just had a test, when someone call my freerunner, he or she still can hear
 the echo. but when calling someone from my freerunner, no echo.

That's weird, as on QtE 4.4.2 I've had no reports of that when people are 
calling me.

I couldn't figure out where to insert that AT command when a call was 
received, so the best I could do was put it in when unsuspending as 99% of the 
time my FR is suspended when someone calls.

I'm not working today so I might get a chance this afternoon to take a look at 
the code in 4.4.3 and see if I can figure out if there is anything called when 
a call comes in (there must be, but I can't see it for looking).

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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Al Johnson wrote:

 I can see the patch setting %N0187 when making a call, waking, initialising
 etc. but not when answering a call.

Yup, I agree, I just can't find anything in the OpenMoko library that gets 
called at that point where I can insert it!

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Radek Polak wrote:

 The outgoing is ok - it's function dialVoiceCommand(). The incoming -
 i am not sure yet which function is the right place.

Yeah, that's just the problem I was having with the 4.4.2 version!

I guess now that we've got control of the code there might be the opportunity 
to put in a callback in the main body of the code to the OpenMoko specific 
library rather than relying on the existing callbacks.

That might be the best bet.

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Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote:

 I think you might have to edit $QPEDIR/etc/mime.types and/or the
 MediaPlayer desktop file to add ogg to the files the mediaplayer can
 recognize. Then run make install again.

Aha, the desktop file for mediaplayer lists audio/ogg+vorbis for .ogg files 
but not audio/ogg which is defined for .oga files in the mime.types.

I'll send a patch for that to the list in a second.

Radagast, what are the characteristics (file name, mime-type) of the file that 
you are trying to play ?

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Re: Anyone have ogg support in qt extended 4.4.3 ?

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote:

 I think you might have to edit $QPEDIR/etc/mime.types and/or the
 MediaPlayer desktop file to add ogg to the files the mediaplayer can
 recognize. Then run make install again.

I also notice that the tremor Ogg plugin has this:

OggPlugin::OggPlugin():
d(new OggPluginPrivate)
{
d-mimeTypes  audio/ogg+vorbis;
d-fileExtensions  ogg;
}

Not being a C++ geek I am not sure how that would need to change to make it 
register itself for audio/ogg and .oga files - any clues ?

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[PATCH] Add audio/ogg support to MediaPlayer

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
The desktop file for MediaPlayer lists audio/ogg+vorbis for .ogg files
but not audio/ogg which is defined for .oga files in mime.types.

Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org
---
 src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop |2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop 
b/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop
index 76a358c..c145213 100644
--- a/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop
+++ b/src/applications/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.desktop
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ Exec=mediaplayer
 Type=Application
 Name[]=Media Player
 Icon=mediaplayer/VideoPlayer
-MimeType=audio/x-wav;audio/mpeg;audio/mpeg3;audio/mp3;audio/x-mp3;audio/mpegurl;audio/x-scpls;audio/amr;audio/mp4;audio/midi;video/3gpp;audio/3gpp;video/mp4;audio/ogg+vorbis;video/x-ms-wmv
+MimeType=audio/x-wav;audio/mpeg;audio/mpeg3;audio/mp3;audio/x-mp3;audio/mpegurl;audio/x-scpls;audio/amr;audio/mp4;audio/midi;video/3gpp;audio/3gpp;video/mp4;audio/ogg+vorbis;audio/ogg;video/x-ms-wmv
 
MimeTypeIcons=mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer;mediaplayer/AudioPlayer;mediaplayer/VideoPlayer
 [Translation]
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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thursday 12 March 2009, Chris Samuel wrote:

 I couldn't figure out where to insert that AT command when a call was
 received

I've just sent a patch to the list that inserts those AT commands when we 
process a CNAP message from the network, which is hopefully an incoming call.

Completely untested!

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[PATCH] Add echo/noise reduction to processing of CNAP messages

2009-03-11 Thread Chris Samuel
This patch adds the AT commands to set up noise/echo reduction upon
receiving a CNAP message from the network which is (hopefully) the
notification of an incoming call.

Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org
---
 .../src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp|6 ++
 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 
b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
index 35f7a0b..093ff18 100644
--- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
+++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
@@ -144,6 +144,12 @@ void NeoCallProvider::cnapNotification( const QString msg 
)
 QAtUtils::skipField( msg, posn );  // name_length
 QString name = QAtUtils::nextString( msg, posn );
 QModemCall *call = incomingCall();
+
+// do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction
+
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ );
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 );
+
 if ( call )
 call-emitNotification( QPhoneCall::CallingName, name );
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Re: [PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-10 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tuesday 10 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 The binary with your echo suppression patch is now available at
 http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/snapbuild/. build
 20090310.

Wow, that's fast work!  Thanks!

Have you tried the 4.4.3 version out yet ?

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Re: [QTE 4.4.3] Determining which version of GSM firmware I have.

2009-03-10 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tuesday 10 March 2009, Friedrich Clausen wrote:

 Thanks Florian and Filip for your replies, I will check this shortly.

According to the Changelog below the GTA02A5 and GTA02A6 ship with the moko8 
firmware, so unless you've flashed it you're going to have that (or earlier if 
it's an earlier HW rev).

http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/all_version__CHANGELOG.txt

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sunday 08 March 2009, Lorn Potter wrote:

 There is a git repo already setup for sometime now, just havent  
 updated it to 4.4.3

Hi Lorn,

Is that your repo, or someone elses ?   It hasn't been touched
for 4 months or so from the look of it.

Is it worth carrying on with the one I set up on github in the meantime or 
should I just bin it ? I don't want to cause confusion!

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Monday 09 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 I think Lorn is not ready yet. I managed to setup one myself.

I noticed, doing a git pull at the moment (more to get a handle on how git 
works, only recently started playing with it).. ;-)

 Chris, which repo do you prefer? if you insist on your github repo, then I
 hope you could update it to 4.4.3. for my repo, it's already based on
 4.4.3. and it a good start point to continue working.

I'm more than happy to clone yours and kill mine off. :-)

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Samuel
On Monday 09 March 2009, HouYu Li wrote:

 I think Lorn is not ready yet. I managed to setup one myself.

OK - I'll send the echo cancellation patch to the list now as applied to your 
4.4.3 repository (I've created a local branch called chris for now).  The 
4.4.2 patch applied with no changes and no fuzz.

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[PATCH] Added echo suppression fixes for the OpenMoko Neo phone.

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Samuel
The original Qt Extended 4.4.3 initially set both echo
suppression and noise reduction in separate AT commands
which might result in the second command negating the
first one.  It also only set them for outgoing calls.

This new version uses the AT command to set both
echo suppression and noise reduction at the same
time as well as setting them on initialisation and
after a wake up.

This is identical to the patch against QtE 4.4.2 and
applied cleanly with no fuzz with QtE 4.4.3.

Signed-off-by: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org
---
 .../src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp|   17 ++---
 1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp 
b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
index d27b4eb..35f7a0b 100644
--- a/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
+++ b/devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp
@@ -153,8 +153,7 @@ QString NeoCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(const 
QDialOptions options) const
 // do undocumented echo cancellation and noise reduction
 
 modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( a...@st=\-26\ );
-modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N028B );
-modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0125 );
+modemService-primaryAtChat()-chat( AT%N0187 );
 return QModemCallProvider::dialVoiceCommand(options);
 }
 
@@ -551,11 +550,14 @@ NeoModemService::NeoModemService
 
 //  chat(AT%CMGRS=1); //message transmission to get any failed sms 
during suspend
 
-   chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during sosuend
+   chat(AT%SLEEP=2); //makes my Moko8 not respond to calls during suspend
 // Turn cell id information back on.
 chat( AT+CREG=2 );
 chat( AT+CGREG=2 );
 
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
+
 QTimer::singleShot(200, this, SLOT(sendRego()));
 }
 
@@ -572,6 +574,9 @@ void NeoModemService::sendRego()
 if( !cfg.value(PlaneMode,false).toBool()) {
 //   chat(AT%NRG=0,0); //force auto operations
 chat(AT+COPS=0); //force auto operations
+
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
 }
 }
 
@@ -679,6 +684,9 @@ void NeoModemService::reset()
 chat(AT%CWUP=1);
 chat(ATE0);
 
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
+
 // Turn on %CNAP notifications, which supply the caller's
 // name on an call.  Only supported on some networks.
 chat( AT%CNAP=1 );
@@ -738,6 +746,9 @@ void NeoModemService::wake()
 
 // Re-enable signal quality notifications when the system wakes up again.
 chat( AT%CSQ=1, this, SLOT(mcsqOn()) );
+
+// Turn on echo suppression and noise reduction.
+chat( AT%N0187 );
 }
 
 void NeoModemService::mcsqOff()
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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 9:13:48 pm Radek Polak wrote:

 Now that we have last release from Nokia would it be possible
 to setup public repository with patches from comunity?

I'm in the process of setting up a repository on github for just that reason!

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:24:54 pm Radek Polak wrote:

 Great, let us know when you are done!

I'm doing a git push now, and it's going to take a long time to finish over 
this ADSL link (it did 3% in about 10 minutes).

When it completes it's going to be here:

 http://github.com/chrissamuel/qtextended/tree/master

Note that what I'm pushing is *not* 4.4.3, it's the original 4.4.2 with an 
extra commit which is the echo fix I previously posted.

It's now gone 11pm here and as I'm involved in a bushfire benefit festival [1] 
tomorrow out at Hurstbridge for people in the Kinglake area of Victoria I 
won't get a chance to do anything more until Sunday as it doesn't finish until 
midnight Saturday!

Then I'll hopefully get a chance to add collaborators and maybe figure out how 
to push 4.4.3 into it too unless someone else wants to do that ? (I'm pretty 
new to git).

cheers,
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[1] - http://www.rockandrebuild.org/

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:59:58 pm HouYu Li wrote:

 OK, actually. I was talking with lpotter in IRC channel #qtopia at FreeNode
 about the further improvement of QTextended. He will setup a git repository
 based on the 4.4.3 release source by the end of this week. Just waiting for
 a while. We are going to move QTextended to kernel 2.6.28.

Aha!  Sounds good to me. :-)

I'll let the git push complete as it won't do any harm for now, we can always 
kill it later if need be.

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Re: latest qt extended?

2009-03-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:33:22 pm Glen Ogilvie wrote:

 I am looking for one with the echo and WSOD fixes in it.

For the 4.4.2 I have a replacement libneovendor.so library
that has (as the only change) the echo suppression fix.

http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo

Both the patch and the compiled library are there.

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Re: Om2009 release plan

2009-03-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 3:14:56 am Angus Ainslie wrote:

 simple phone book (no images)

Any chance that would use or import existing vcard files ?

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[QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-05 Thread Chris Samuel
Just noticed that the files for the release of 4.4.3 (source only so far) have 
just appeared on the Qt Extended site whilst I was looking around.  More info 
in the posting by Lorn here:

http://qtextended.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=54

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

2009-03-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 1:46:03 am HouYu Li wrote:

 Just had a test. Echo is there, and incoming call is received twice

That's a shame!  There is an unofficial git repository here:

git://git.asheesh.org/qtopia_snapshot.git

but it's still just 4.4.2 at the moment (hasn't changed for 4 months). :-(

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Re: which file system for sd card?

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 3:56:26 am Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote:

 My point is: journal could avoid errors and prevent some corruption, ok
 nothing to say about that.

Journals are really to allow the filesystem to present a consistent view after 
a crash or failure and to try and avoid lengthy fsck's and the guesswork that 
is entailed in them.

So for ext3 the default behaviour is to only flush the journalled metadata of 
files after the file data has hit disk (hence why its' called ordered mode).  
Other filesystems make different guarantees about journals and file data (and 
so will ext3 if you mount with journal=writeback).

Regarding journal corruption - yes it can be an issue which is why ext4 (no 
longer marked experimental in 2.6.28) checksums the journal.

Filesystems like btrfs (merged as very experimental for 2.6.29) take a 
different approach, they are copy-on-write and so write new data blocks out to 
different areas of the filesystem and then update the metadata to replace the 
old with the new so you (should) have atomic updates and hence avoid the need 
for journalling.  Btrfs itself also checksums the data on disk so it will know 
if data is corrupted and (if you have two partitions in a RAID1 arrangement) 
will attempt to recover the data from the other partition (and yes, that does 
work).

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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 4:04:27 am Alexander Frøyseth wrote:

 I use QtE 4.4.2 and have no echo with this fix:
 http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-
on-openmoko-neo

Thanks for confirming it works for you too!

 No problem with the sound either (I use only this fix, not the fix that
 replaces the .state files)

I actually had to edit them, but only because it was too loud for my ears, not 
because of any echo! :-)

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Qt Extended update ?

2009-01-25 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi all,

Does anyone know if there's any updates for Qt Extended in the pipeline ?

Lorn wrote back in early December that he was hoping to get a snapshot release 
out by the 21st December, but there's been nothing since.. :-(

I know that Nokia decided to GPL Qt so I wonder if that has delayed things ?

It would also be very nice if there was a public git repository for the GPL 
version of Qt Extended.. ;-)

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Re: [Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes

2009-01-17 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 6:21:10 pm Carsten Haitzler wrote:

 i can keep hunting down more references - but its meant to be part of the
 spec. cards should do it - some may do it better than others (ie name
 brands - cost more, lifetime warranties), and some el-cheapo ones may skip
 it to cut costs.

All very useful information, thanks so much!

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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:26:23 am ka...@altern.org wrote:

 Since there is a known workaround, why doesn't it get applied?

I suspect the Nokia/Trolltech folks are busy with the Qt LGPL stuff.

Lorn did say he'd try to get a snapshot release out around the solstice but it 
didn't appear, so it'd be nice if those minor changes could get incorporated 
into it when it finally does appear.

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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:17:11 am Gabriel wrote:

 Hackable1 is echo free no ?

Yup, that was what inspired me to do the QtE patch as that showed just how 
good the audio quality could be!

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Re: [Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:14:53 am Nick Van Fossen wrote:

 So, I'm a bit lazy so instead of going through the trouble of adding a swap
 partition, I just created a swap file.

I would say that you're not necessarily being lazy there, if you configure a 
swap partition then you are limiting where the kernel can write bytes on the 
SD card which will lead to uneven wear on it.

In future with a COW SSD aware wear-leveling filsystem like btrfs a swap file 
may end up being more SD friendly as the filesystem may (hopefully!) balance 
out those writes across the card.

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Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup

2009-01-13 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 5:11:45 am Stefan Monnier wrote:

  [1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people
  to publish their ideas rather than keep them secret.

 Actually, not so ironic: it basically means that rather than keeping
 them as internal secrets, they get to lock them in
 a government-provided vault.

Where everyone can read them and the protection expires after a time.

Don't get me wrong, I think patents are bad, especially these days where the 
techniques are often obsolete before the patent expires. :-(

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Re: for sale: openmoko phone

2009-01-13 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 9:36:39 am jamal wrote:

 So, dumb question: whats the s/ware fix?

The following (undocumented) AT command to the GSM modem:

AT%N0187

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