Re: 2007.11 snapshot available
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Dec 5, 2007, o godz 12:51 AM, przez Jon Phillips: Priorities for mass usage: 1. phone working 2. acceptable battery life (1 full day without charge) Am I wrong? For me it's also finger-usable keyboard - just like the one in Qtopia. With that you can operate your phone without stylus (in most cases). cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2007.11 snapshot available
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Dec 5, 2007, o godz 10:14 AM, przez Thomas Wood: On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 09:20 +0100, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: For me it's also finger-usable keyboard - just like the one in Qtopia. With that you can operate your phone without stylus (in most cases). Chris has worked on a multi-tap input method: http://chrislord.net/blog/Software/multitap-pad.enlighten That's wonderful news! What I also like in Qtopia's keyboard is ability to switch between number, symbol and letters keyboard by moving you finger down or up on keyboard. Obviously T9 will not be implemented due to patent issues. I will ask him if the source is available anywhere. T9 is not necessary important (i.e. I do not use english on my phone so probably I would need to hack it to include polish T9 database). It is useful in SMSes but not on writing URLs or console ;) cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new Qtopia image... Predictive keyboard not being predictive
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 29, 2007, o godz 2:25 AM, przez Lorn Potter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've actually been very lucky with the predictive keyboard. Especially since I have gorilla hands and I'm not very accurate. This is why this keyboard is so awesome, IMHO. You do not have to be stylus accurate to use it. Lorn, maybe you should consider an option to turn off prediction? There are many users who will to use this keyboard but in non-english messages. cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new Qtopia image
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 27, 2007, o godz 9:33 AM, przez Lorn Potter: I just uploaded a new Qtopia snapshot image to the downloads section of Qtopia.net. This introduces the new Cruxus mediaengine, which has a few plugins already, which include libmad, tremor (ogg) and timidity, for .wav, .mp3, ogg and .mid file support. Thx for giving us notice! I am wondering if you could help me on some quirks that holds Qtopia one step back from being perfect :) - Is it possible now to dial numer while viewing calls list (i.e. missed calls). In last image you could not do it from there - you had to select open contact, find desired number and select it to call. - How to turn off predictive keyboard? I want to use this keyboard (it is very nice to use with fingers) but I do not want to use english words... - How can I use Sync Agent for qtopia 4.3? I couldn't find any pre- compiled version (source either). It would be perfect that I could find version for MacOS X. Maybe some else could guide me on these topics? I'm sory for asking on OpenMoko forum but no one answered me on Qtopia forum ;( cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: November 26, 2007 Community Update
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 26, 2007, o godz 8:41 PM, przez Michael Shiloh: Hi Community, Hi Michael! What about neccessity to make fifth revision of GTA02? Do you confirm that ver. 4 of hardware is buggy? Thanks! Krzysztof ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 16, 2007, o godz 2:30 PM, przez Michael Schmidt: Hi If I understand it right, the neo phone has now three options for an operating system - the current openmoko GTK operating system - Qtopia from Trolltech - Android linux from google. Hi! Actualy those are not operating systems. Operating system is for example Linux. It is used for OpenMoko and Qtopia (I'm not sure for Android but I think also). Also is it neccessary to cross-post to so many lists? best regards Krzysztof ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTK vs QTopia vs Android - (was: Re: Android needs applications) (will be: new vision for openmoko)
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 16, 2007, o godz 4:42 PM, przez Enno Gottox Boland: -.- ok another flamewar... lets participate. Hi! Actualy those are not operating systems. Operating system is for example Linux. It is used for OpenMoko and Qtopia (I'm not sure for Android but I think also). Don't feed the troll... ... ... ... Oh, I really have to! Linux is a kernel. GTK/Qt/etc is the GUI. You can call e.g. Angstrom the Operating system, but also it is the Distribution. It is not clear what should be called OS in this environment, but for sure Linux is NOT an OS. Hmm, others think different. Check out wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux (first sentence): Linux (pronunciation: IPA: /ˈlɪnʊks/, lin-uks) is a Unix-like computer operating system. Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system: An operating system (OS) is the software that manages the sharing of the resources of a computer and provides programmers with an interface used to access those resources. So kernel matches this definition perfectly. cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help Request for our Webshop
2007/9/23, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The standard Open Source Web Shop is OSCommerce (http:// www.oscommerce.com/). The only requirements it does not solve are * it is witten in PHP * it has its own database model Hi! Recently I'm running a one-person project on oscommerce and the deeper I get inside the code the more I see what a piece of ugly written software this is... Each file is a mixture of HTML, PHP and even SQL. There are no templates, no MVC nor other model, code is buggy, unmaintened and uses PHP classes like tables. It's a software that stuck in time five years ago... I would never do anything in oscommerce again. regards cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS accuracy
2007/9/22, Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW: Nice blog with interesting (and for me some new) details. But unfortunately in Polish :-) Thx, in future we try to write some articles in english - I can see now that there are many people out there who could read it... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Is neo1973 dual boot possible?
Hi! Is it possible to have both Qtopia and OM environments on one phone? One could be able to chooses system on startup (such as grub or lilo chooses Linux or Windows ;). That would be useful - you could use Qtopia env as a phone during day but at night you could reboot to OM and start hacking ;) cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS accuracy
2007/9/21, Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi! Check out picture in this article: http://www.openmoko.org.pl/node/41 I had my Neo on the buttom of my back pack while riding a bike. Accuracy was up to about 2m. It was realy good. cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bluetooth networking over MacOS
Hi guys! Does anyone knows how to set up bluetooth networking between Mac and Neo? I know how to run it on Linux but on Mac I can only pair it and I do not know what to do next. If anyone knows could you please write it down on wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X#Bluetooth_2 ? cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Screen shots of Qtopia on Neo and some thoughts
Hi! I posted on my site: http://www.openmoko.org.pl some thoughs and about 30 screen shots of what I think are the most interesting Qtopia features. I'd recommend anyone who has a phone to give Qtopia a try because it is very mature and nicely made piece of software. Anyone else may visit http://www.openmoko.org.pl/node/57 and start saving pocket money for his/her Neo1973 :) cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power on device after being powered down
2007/8/27, Jason Elwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unlike many of the consumer devices you may be familiar with, the Neo1973 will NOT run from solely the USB cable if the battery has been drained. To make things more frustrating, the device will only only charge in slow-mode when the device is in this state, you that is why you must plug it in for many hours. I wonder that this could be serioul hickup after going public... I can already see all those frustrated users who left their phones for night and in the morning they cannot make important phone call. And they have to wait for 4 hours just to turn fast charging! That is not very practical. cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VMWare-Image (again)
2007/8/8, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay the first image is bitorrenting at: http://tracker.unsads.com/torrents-details.php?id=3 I'm currently seeding and leeching we'll soon have 2 seeds! Please contribute if you feel this is useful :) Hi! I think it could be the right time to provide updated VMWare image with OM 2007.2 I have previuos one and I'm still trying to update it but OM does not compile because 15GB is not enough space! Now I resized vmdk to 20GB and in couple of hours I may finally succed. Anyway, could you make another image with OM 2007.2 so that newcommers would not have to deal with resing images and compilation by themselves? I could seed it as ussual ;) cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VMWare-Image (again)
2007/8/26, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: I have previuos one and I'm still trying to update it but OM does not compile because 15GB is not enough space! Now I resized vmdk to 20GB and in couple of hours I may finally succed. You should use the rm_work tip. It reduces the space required to less than half that size. Thanks for advice but I'm using it but it's still not enough disk space... cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VMWare-Image (again)
2007/8/8, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay the first image is bitorrenting at: http://tracker.unsads.com/torrents-details.php?id=3 Sébastien, What is default username and password? Thanks in advance! Krzysztof Kajkowski ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fingerscroll, foofone and more from people.openmoko.org!
2007/8/14, Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fingerscroll foofone: http://people.openmoko.org/jserv/graphics/video/ Wow. This is clutter running inside qemu... Anybody tried running it in software rendering on a real device? I run 2007.2 and 'kinetic' scrolling works very wel. cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VMWare-Image (again)
2007/8/12, Jimmy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hate to be a newbie, but I got the image, logged in, but how do I start the openmoko gui? please read: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qemu cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing a new kernel under Mac OS X
2007/8/8, Igor Foox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've successfully used Nikolaus Schaller's AJZaurusUSB and OpenMoko Flasher applications to flash a new rootfs onto my new Neo. But I can't flash a new kernel into it. When I try flashing a kernel with OpenMoko Flasher it tries to write it into the rootfs partition instead of the kernel partition. I currently don't have access to a computer running linux natively, so I can't use dfu-util directly. Any suggestions on how to get a new kernel on the device? What command do you use to flash kernel? I am also struggling with dfu-util on Mac: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/OpenMoko Flasher-1.app/Contents/MacOS/Sources/dfu-util/src$ sudo ./dfu-util -a 3 -R -D /Users/cayco/Downloads/uImage-2.6.21.6-moko10-r1_0_0_2388_0-fic-gta01.bin dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Found Runtime: [0x1457:0x5119] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Cannot set alternate interface: usb_set_altinterface: could not set alternate interface I use AJZaurusUSB 0.5.3 cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS data from gllin
Hi! I want to ask phase0 developers: what is the format of gllin output data? I am trying to convert it to google earth using gpsbabel but I have no clue what i could be. Most possible guess is NMEA but the error for my location is about half of the world ;))) so I guess this is not it... best regards cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Free Linux distro targets smartphones
OpenedHand is offering pre-built Poky 3.0 kernels, modules, and root filesystem images for a several popular development targets, including: Nokia N800 web tablet (experimental) OpenMoko GTA01 (FIC-GTA01) (experimental) Sharp Zaurus c7x0 (C700, C750, C760, C860, SL-7500) Sharp Zaurus Akita (SL-C1000) spitz (SL-C3000, SL-C3100, SL-C3200) QEMU ARM QEMU x86 http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6869195570.html Hmm, anyone installed this? cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2007.2 - questions
Hi! I read OM lists daily but I still have some basic questions about 2007.2. Could someone explain: - what is 2007.2 code? - can I install it on my GTA01v4? How? - can I use this with MokoMakefile? - when do you plan to make it ready for testing? best regards Krzysztof Kajkowski ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
MacOS X users get together!
Hi! I know there are some MacOS users here. Let's get together and write down some notes on using Neo1973 with your Macs. I started http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X where you can already find some interesting information and references to other sites. I know that Linux guys (geeks ;) very often use Macs since it's a nice and functional gadget. And I guess many of them would buy Neo1973 since it would be nice and functional ;) I think that after end-user release there should be some solutions for connecting your Mac and Neo. cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shippped!
Ugh! Mine is stopped for two days now in Louisville, KY and it waits for something (don't know what)... I'm in Poland. cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shippped!
2007/7/29, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Krzysztof Kajkowski writes: Ugh! Mine is stopped for two days now in Louisville, KY and it waits for something (don't know what)... I'm in Poland. Actually stopped in Louisville, or in transit to Louisville? LOUISVILLE, KY, US 07/27/2007 12:48 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN So I guess it's like Nikolaus says - packages are not sent or moved at the end of the week. cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
dfu-util on Mac OS X
Hi! I managed to compile dfu-util on my Mac. Here's very short (and dirty) hack: First install libusb: sudo port install libusb Get dfu-util: svn co http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/ run ./autogen.sh Then, for some reason, my libusb lib was not detected. I needed to set my paths by hand: comment out line 18 and 19 in configure.ac: #PKG_CHECK_MODULES(USB, libusb = 0.1.4,, #AC_MSG_ERROR([*** Required libusb = 0.1.4 not installed ***])) and add libusb libs manually to line 20, so it looks like: LIBS=$LIBS -L/opt/local/lib -lusb -Wl,-framework -Wl,IOKit -Wl,-framework -Wl,CoreFoundation -Wl,-prebind -I/opt/local/include run ./configure goto src and: comment out dfu static because this is not supported on Mac: dfu_util_static_LDFLAGS = #-static add lib by hand: DEFAULT_INCLUDES = -I. -I$(srcdir) -I$(top_builddir) -I/opt/local/include -L/opt/local/lib -lusb -Wl,-framework -Wl,IOKit -Wl,-framework -Wl,CoreFoundation -Wl,-prebind -I/opt/local/include (I know that this is totaly unpure, dirty hack, but it works). Run make in src dir. Can any of Mac owners try to confirm if this dfu-util works for him on his GTA01? I can even send binary... cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: whee!
2007/7/26, Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Advanced kit arrived, yay! Batteries and uSD cards were missing, boo! You did not receive any of the uSD cards? No batteries either? The phone doesn't appear to power up off of the USB cable by itself, either... Couple of months ago there was a problem amongst phase 0 developers - if their phone's battery was completly dead neo1973 did not charge it. I donno if this was fixed but charging battery in external charger (or in other phone - ie. Nokia) helped. I'm sory to hear that $450 advanced set does not have everything it has to. I wonder if this could be more common thing. Did you try to contact anyone at openmoko? cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ...Order shipped: OpenMoko direct order
2007/7/26, Marco Crociani - Tyrael [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, the shipping for rest of the world? Mine isn't shipped yet ;( cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ...Order shipped: OpenMoko direct order
2007/7/25, Cindy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It shipped! I'm so jealous I live abroad and have to wait another day to have my neo sent, and than wait some time, just to wait to pay tax at customs when neo arrives to Poland! ;-) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I got charged ;)
2007/7/21, Peter Trapp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what's your rt.internal number ? waiting eagerly :) It is #1921. I forgot to tell that the sending costs are $30 lower than mentioned in web shop (I'm from Poland). cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?
I had the same error on my MacOS X. It has something to do with glibc header which exists on Linux but not on FreeBSD. You can read about my attemts here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_MacOSX I asked for help on OE mailing lists. Someone responded that he has a patch for this but I could not find it. I could fight it... What does 'kldload aio' do? Maybe there is something like this on Mac? cayco 2007/7/19, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Grr.. I forgot to do 'reply-all'. -- Forwarded message -- From: Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 19, 2007 1:07 AM Subject: Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64? To: cedric cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/18/07, cedric cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the same arch I just had openmoko run on qemu, following this advice : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:OpenMoko_under_QEMU#FreeBSD_and_last_qemu... I don't think that helps. Well, it helped me getting qemu (the neo1973 emulator) built, not bad at all. However, it won't run: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gmake run-qemu ( cd build/qemu ; arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm \ -M neo -m 130 -usb -show-cursor \ -mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image \ -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin ) neo_gsm_switch: GSM disabled. Bad system call (core dumped) gmake: *** [run-qemu] Error 140 As far s I can tell, I have all needed dependcies installed, inclunding netpbm, lynx and sdl: [EMAIL PROTECTED] portversion -v | grep sdl sdl-1.2.11_1,2 = up-to-date with port sdl_image-1.2.5_2 = up-to-date with port What is missing? -- Regards, Torfinn ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?
2007/7/19, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, On 7/19/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same error on my MacOS X. It has something to do with glibc header which exists on Linux but not on FreeBSD. You can read about my attemts here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_MacOSX I see. It would be nice to find a workaround for this, but I don't think I know enough do that. Yeah, me too :-/ I'm kinda stuck now... I asked for help on OE mailing lists. Someone responded that he has a patch for this but I could not find it. Interesting. Do you have a reference to that thread in mailinglist archives? http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-July/002520.html cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?
2007/7/19, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 19 July 2007 11:18, Mario Wewer wrote: So - does anyone of you already has a running VMWARE image with all openmoko-relevant applications running?! If anyone had a suggestion for a distro where mokomakefile 'just works' I'll try to make a qemu or xen image over the weekend. Ubuntu works well. cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?
2007/7/19, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-July/002520.html Aha. Well, the viewcvs he's talking about is here: http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ But the only thing I found (after a brief search) related to libbb is this: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ipkg.unused/libbb/ and libbb.h in that directory is still at its first version there. It would be much easier if he just told you which patch he means. :-/ Yes, later I found this and even I found MacOS X specific HOWTO (not related with problem) which he mentioned. I look over whole SVN there and did not find anything interesting. I tried to search OE site using his nickname, his mail, his name etc but I found nothing useful. I wrote him personnaly but he did not respond. I'm starting to lose hope now. I though of how to get qemu compiled under MacOS X - I try to patch it using Q[:kju] patches but I cannot get to point of compiling qemu. Can anybody help us? cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Finally I received another response from OpenMoko Shop
Hi! I want to share with you that I received another mail from OpenMoko Shop which seems to be sent to everyone. Here it goes (if anyone's curious): Dear Valued Customer, since there has been some misunderstanding, we just want you to confirm one more time that you are aware that our products at this point in time ARE NOT END-USER DEVICES! So please let us warn you one more time: THIS IS A DEVELOPER RELEASE, NOT A CONSUMER PRODUCT!| For more information about what to expect from this very early developer preview, please see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Developer_preview If you would like to continue this purchase, please reply to this email with the simple string YES_I_DO (all uppercase and with underscores) at the beginning of an otherwise empty line of your response to this email. If you choose to cancel your order, please reply using the word CANCEL (uppercase) at the beginning of an otherwise empty line of your response email. Please note that it is important to leave the subject of the mail intact, and that your response comes from the original email that you used to make this order. Also, if you ordered at a point in time where there was no color selection available in the shop, your order has been automatically marked as BLACK/SILVER. If this is fine with you, there is no additional action required. If you wish to receive the WHITE/ORANGE design, please send a mail with the word ORANGE (uppercase) at the beginning of an otherwise empty line of your response email. We apologize for any inconvenience, The OpenMoko order processing team It's good to know that OM team is working hard to process all these request and it seems that the project has drawn realy big attention ;-) cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: order confirmation numbers
2007/7/12, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please read this and think what you like to think: http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/07/11/ I am completly confused about this Haralds blog entry. Any rumors about it? ;-) cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
One comment - my mail server has greylist filtering enabled and it seems the confirmation mail got stuck - the mail server logs revealed that something was inbound immediately after purchase but it was temporarily rejected because of the way greylisting works.. (I placed my order around 23:58 UTC on 2007-07-09.) Hope I'll be getting the phones anyway :) I also have greylisting enabled but I was able to receive confirmation mail with no problem at all. regards cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
BTW, has anyone of you received confirmation (other than from RT) from OpenMoko that your request is being processed? I did not and neither are there any operations on my credit card from OpenMoko shop. I guess there are going to be some delays in shipping... cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP
BTW, has anyone of you received confirmation (other than from RT) from OpenMoko that your request is being processed? I did not and neither are there any operations on my credit card from OpenMoko shop. I guess there are going to be some delays in shipping... cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko videos in Ogg Theora
Here you go: http://www.openmoko.org.pl/ads/ cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: OpenMoko development under MacOS X
-- Forwarded message -- From: Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22-06-2007 19:29 Subject: Re: OpenMoko development under MacOS X To: openmoko-devel [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007/6/22, Fabien Fleutot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm also trying to get qemu to work on OSX, without much success. Had you better luck? Hi! I have not enough knowlege to make it work. No one else seems to be interested either so I guess this is not going to work ;( Why can't we swich to gcc-4.0 in qemu? cayco On 5/13/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone! There was some discussion on the lists some time ago and I wanted to check if anything has changed. I've made some quick research on subject of developing OpenMoko apps on MacOS X. It appears that we could run MakoMakefile: http://www.quantum-step.com/download/OpenMoko-Edition/oe That's great! I checked if there is any possibility to run QEMU's Neo1973 port on Mac but it seems not possible right now. Compiling it as written on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU does not work because it requires gcc-3.3 which seems to be broken on MacOS - http://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-users/2007-February/001593.html Compiling ends up with error: gcc-3.3: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory Compiling neo1973 qemu with gcc-4.0: ./configure --target-list=arm-softmmu --cc=/usr/bin/gcc-4.0 --disable-gcc-check gives you: dyngen.c: In function 'gen_code': dyngen.c:1853: error: 'struct relocation_info' has no member named 'r_offset' dyngen.c:1854: error: 'struct relocation_info' has no member named 'r_offset' dyngen.c:1858: error: 'struct relocation_info' has no member named 'r_offset' dyngen.c:1872: error: 'struct relocation_info' has no member named 'r_offset' dyngen.c:1915:2: error: #error unsupport object format dyngen.c:1849: warning: unused variable 'type' make: *** [dyngen] Error 1 But there is project: http://www.kju-app.org/kju/ that manages to compile and run (very well) qemu under MacOS X. They are using standart XCode Developer Tools so this could mean gcc-4.0. I would be great if someone with grater knowledge on the subject could combine kju and neo1973 emulators to make such emulator possible. What do you think? cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabien Fleutot +--- | 11 rue Ferrus | 75014 Paris | home: +33 1 53 80 47 44 | office: +33 1 46 29 40 39 | mobile: +33 6 28 06 09 97 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: @Sean: please check off
C'mon guys! If Sean could answered us, he surely would. Apparently, he can't make any public statement yet... cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Preorder
2007/5/8, Mike Sandman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +1 - sandman Could you please stop writting me too, ++1 etc? You can express you will of buying Neo1973 on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buying_Interest_List ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS - protocol specs?
2007/3/9, Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I asked my colleagues who are GPS devices specialists and they said that this is all wrong. Did they talked about AGPS (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AGPS)? cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet another finger keybord (gui mock-up).
I find this idea interesting but I thought of some modification - what about using there full QWERTY keyboard? There could be something like miniature keyboard displayed at the buttom but in QWERTY layout. You could use thumbs to press keys (more accuartely: areas where keys are - your thumb would press more than one key at a time). On each key press, the part of keyboard that you pressed could be zoomed and you would be able to choose the key you wanted to enter (keys would be bigger now because they lay in zoomed aread). That could be pretty fast way of inserting data, using your thumbs, on small screen keyboard. cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Possible security hole for Dialers/troyan horses
2007/3/1, Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Bigger than phone theft. That's why commercial phone manufacturers don't allow to access all the phone for java apps. To disallow hidden calls and smses. IMHO this is not main reason why commercial manufacturers don't allow access all phone for java apps but this is not the point. We have similiar situation in Linux - we can download software from net, install it (even on user account) and run it without knowing that it makes some nasty stuff in the background (for example sending spams). Such trojan are not so popular, why? I think it's because openess of Linux and it's apps and that they are not spreading automaticly. As for the first reason - most of us don't bother to download closed source apps for linux. If we do, we download it from big vendors such as Sun, VMware etc. I doubt if anyone would be stupid enough to run binary from unknown source. Second reason if that trojan which requires human to spread are not likely to emerge in big numbers (epidemic). I think that such appilcations (dialers etc) are not likely to wide spread. Main source for applications for OpenMoko will be official repositories and GSM providers. For first source we would have source code to review. On the other hand GSM operators and other software vendors should not add malware to its apps - it would kill them in the long run. However there might be such attempts to create GSM trojans and we should be aware to enable user to protect itself. The question is how to do that? What do you think? cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection
2007/2/28, Bartłomiej Zdanowski DRP AC2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi. That's the solution! Let thief pay for data transmission :-) How about silently calling 0700 and othe highly price erotic phone lines? :-D cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back from FOSDEM
2007/2/26, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is a polnish forum about the allegro offeres: http://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic656979.html (I can't understand it but Li-Pol 1600mAh = 9,2mm?) Actuali is it 'polish' forum ;) They write there that such 3600mAh batterries are unrealistic - those sellers make that stickers themselves so that batteries look as 3600mAh. About that Li-Pol battery, someone writes that it is some bigger that original from Nokia. It does not fit very well in Nokia but in Neo should be OK ;) cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google custom search engine
2007/2/26, Alessandro Iurlano [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everybody. I have created a google custom search engine with all the openmoko websites and the technical documents mentioned in the wiki. Hi! It very useful, thank you! But I think something like that should be placed at openmoko.org website. What do you think? cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection
2007/2/27, Aloril [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Idea is keep thief using phone until police arrives and recovers it. Yeah, and maybe call nearest SWAT team to clear the area :-P I doubt if police would bother in chasing thief for one phone (at least where I live). They should at least have some warrant ;-) To be serious I would rather do not want that thief could tallk on my bill. Better solution would be to pretend that phone is turned off and silently sent GPS coords. cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Connectivity
2007/2/20, larpoux [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, A few questions about USB connectivity Hi! Excuse me for not replying on each of your questions but try to answer yourself ;) Basically your Neo1973 phone would be running linux with kernel 2.6.x so all modules should work on your phone just like on your desktop (if hardware allows of course). Does it clear you out your doubts? cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hi-res Neo1973 pictures
2007/2/19, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry for lagging on releasing these guys. Everyone in Taiwan now is on vacation (Chinese New Year). I'm trying to find somebody to send me some but nobody is replying ;-) Thank you for replying! Today, LIane Shen has sent me terrific renderings of Neo1973 case. I'll post them on wiki ASAP ;) cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
hi-res Neo1973 pictures
Hi! I just wrote article about OpenMoko for biggest free polish students newspaper (I am also a journalist there). Would anyone be so kind to point me any hi-res pictures of Neo1973 so we could print them out in our newspaper? Or is it possible that someone make such pictures and post it to wiki? best regards Krzysztof Kajkowski ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hi-res Neo1973 pictures
2007/2/18, Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dnia niedziela, 18 lutego 2007, Krzysztof Kajkowski napisał: Or is it possible that someone make such pictures and post it to wiki? Check photos made by Harald Welte: http://people.openmoko.org/laforge/photos/ Yes, I saw them. These are very nice, yet useless to non-technical users. They may be even scared when they see those pictures ;) I'd though about nice pictures ofNeo1973 _with_ external case ;) cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 11 Lanuages :) Re: Wikipedia update
2007/2/18, William Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or must I start from scratch on the Japanese wikipedia? Hi! Thanks for your effort! You have to go to japanese wikipedia and create new page for OpenMoko (if there is no any). cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki is open
It timeouts from my location ;( I'm from Warsaw, Poland (using Neostrada) cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voice over GPRS?
2007/2/2, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Salve! Does anybody has experiances/ideas about Voice over GPRS? How long is the delay? I heard it could be pretty lond delay (like a second or more). It is hard to use programs such as skype. Walkie-talkie like solution is very interesting, though. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
