Re: Waterproof bag
Hi Christian, Christian Rüb wrote: has anyone tried one of the waterproof (5m) bags from Aquapac? Is the mini [1] sufficient or is it too tight and it would be better to use medium [2]? Yes, I have one, the mini is too small (it almost fits, but not quite), luckily Aquapac let me exchange it for a medium which fits without any problems (although there's a fair amount of excess space). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Python email or direct GMail lib?
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: New version: http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/iphone_new_doesnotwork.png http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/iphone_new.png Old version: http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/iphone_old.png The new version does not work under midori. Accessing any item (inbox, sent mails, all mails, labels) results Re-establish your connection... message. And it does not load the labels either. Here is a screenshot from firefox of gmail home: http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/iphone_firefox_home.png Please compare with http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/iphone_new.png It does not load the labels. So I think pushing and fixing midori is the right way of fixing our problem (ie. accessing gmail from this phone). What do you think? Why not just use the generic mobile version of gmail at http://m.gmail.com ? It's not as flashy but it works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Python email or direct GMail lib?
Does someone of you know a (possibly easily *g*) usable direct gmail or general email library? The imaplib module would probably be your best choice. It's packaged in python-email. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] panicking images and suspend/resume ?
Chris Samuel wrote: I last tried the Koolu ones a few months back and I don't believe they could suspend/resume at all.. Hi Chris, I don't know about the panicking image, but the koolu cupcake alpha 1 image suspends fine for me: http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card
Yorick Moko wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Dienstag, 4. August 2009 14:39:39 schrieb Yorick Moko: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: could you please prefix you mails' subjects with [android]? to me the subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card Which client do you use? I don't see any prefix, too... I use gmail and the original subject appears as [android-freerunner] q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card while every response (even mine!) appears as Re: q: isnt it possible to run neo without sim-card strange I suspect you're also subscribed to the android-freerunner mailinglist at koolu (which does prepend [android-freerunner]) where this was also posted and that gmail automagically detected that they were duplicates and merged the two threads. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: sd card android gta02
tom wrote: hi, just got my gta02 and sintalled android via koolu image. but how can i get it to accept the sd-card? any help greatly appreciated! I had a similar issue, whereby android is looking in the wrong location for the mmc host, see the ticket I logged about it here: http://trac.koolu.org/ticket/33 If this is the same case for you (make sure this really is the issue you're having first) then you can download my system.img file from: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/system.img that contains a vold.conf with the alternative path selected. Replace the system.img on your SD card and rerun the installation process. It's designed to work with the koolu cupcake 1.5 alpha1 image, so make sure that's what you're using: http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: sd card android gta02
tom wrote: hi mike , thx for the information, reading ur mail and being a newbiw in terms of freerunner my first question would be: 1) what exaclty is the difference between koolu-andorid-release 7 and 2) http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/ ? The koolu beta 7 release is based around Android 1.0 (which is a little old now), where as the cupcake 1.5 alpha1 release is based around Android 1.5 (nicknamed Cupcake) which is much more recent. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: sd card android gta02
tom wrote: the installation procedure is the same as for the koolu images? put on the sd card and boot from sd? thx Yes, unpack http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/android-freerunner-koolu1.5-alpha-1.tar.gz on to the sd card then overwrite system.img with my version linked to earlier in this thread. After that just boot from the sd card and it'll install. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: q: sd card android gta02
tom wrote: ok just installed it, and yes, after the boot i have a new screen with the emergency call button, but i cant get beyond that one...help thx That's not something I've encountered myself, you might have better luck asking on the android-freerunner mailing list at: http://android.koolu.org/listinfo.cgi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner Chat Application: Suggestions wanted!
Alex Teiche wrote: Hello everyone, I recently recieved my A6 FreeRunner, and have been looking for some coding to do:) I plan on writing a chat application(similar to Pidgin) optomized for the small screen. I was wondering what suggestions the community had before I get too far into it. Hi Alex, I'm actually currently working on a project similar to this using elementary and telepathy; I haven't made it particularly public yet as it's only in a very roughly usable state and I think I still need to spend some time updating some of the telepathy packages in OE before it's easy to install directly on the device (there are easy to install debian/ubuntu packages though). At present it supports Jabber for text and jingle (google talk) for VoIP; although it's reasonably trivial to make other protocols available. If you'd like to join the effort you're more than welcome, I won't take offense if you decide you want to go your own way though ;) The final plan is to make it a complete communications package that handles SMS and GSM conversations as well as IM and VoIP (by writing some telepathy connection managers that talk to FSO); we have the skeleton of an SMS connection manager at the moment, but it hasn't been a high priority yet so it's pretty unfinished. It would then support a kind of meta-contact which would store details about a contact across multiple protocols so the best option could be chosen depending on availability (e.g. if wifi is available and the contact is online, then use VoIP, otherwise make a normal GSM call). That's all a little way in the future though. You can find more details and a few slightly out-of-date screenshots at http://www.openapathy.org and you can find myself (Elleo) and the other main developer (alasdair) in #apathy on irc.freenode.net if you want to chat a bit more. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner Chat Application: Suggestions wanted!
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:16:09PM +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote: Alex Teiche wrote: Hello everyone, I recently recieved my A6 FreeRunner, and have been looking for some coding to do:) I plan on writing a chat application(similar to Pidgin) optomized for the small screen. I was wondering what suggestions the community had before I get too far into it. Hi Alex, I'm actually currently working on a project similar to this using elementary and telepathy; I haven't made it particularly public yet as it's only in a very roughly usable state and I think I still need to spend some time updating some of the telepathy packages in OE before it's easy to install directly on the device (there are easy to install debian/ubuntu packages though). Release early, release often, have a public repository for sources, issues, etc... works best even if your first releases only have basic functionality. Yes, I do agree with that philosophy for the most part and the sources, bug tracker, etc. are all publicly available at: https://launchpad.net/apathy I've just failed to actually publicise them ;) . I was mostly waiting until I had time to get things in to a state where it was possible to install packages easily on to the freerunner, as it's harder to get people interested in something they can't easily have a play with (even if it's a somewhat broken thing they're playing with). So it's mostly just my own lack of time that's held up making things more public sooner. And of course the offer of helping with development and dropping by the IRC channel is naturally open to anyone interested :). Go, go, go, go! Mike :) Thanks :) Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: intone a2dp (bluetooth) support
DJDAS wrote: It's very simple: you have to pair to the device and create a .asoundrc file in $HOME. You can see a sample of it in the bluethooth.py module of BlueMoko[1] (look at the function connect_A2DP() ) After this the bluetooth headset will become the default alsa device so you won't need to change any configuration in mplayer but just start a new mplayer process which will play through the headset. To reset the alsa output simply remove the .asoundrc and disconnect from the headset. Bye! Personally I don't think this should be implemented in intone, this sort of system-wide activity should be handled by FSO (and I believe there is work on-going towards this) and intone should just offer the option to make use of an already configured bluetooth device if it exists. Also, IIRC, BlueMoko still uses bluez 3.3, while most images now use bluez 4 by default. So if you went down that path you'd probably end up having to support two different methods of pairing. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: intone a2dp (bluetooth) support
Hi Yorick, Yorick Moko wrote: I find intone by far the best music app (low cpu usage); but I can't find a way to route the audio through Currently I use mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth /mp3/ I would love it if this would be possible with intone. Does anybody know a way, or is there some work begin done? I'm using intone with a2dp, all you need to do is edit ~/.mplayer/config and add the line: ao=alsa:device=bluetooth Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with gstreamer for python needed
Andreas Hennig wrote: Hi All! Does one of you have expirience with gstreamer? I use gstreamer for my music player pyRok. Initialy it works fine but after a while it locks up and i don't see a reason. There is no error message ot something. The music just stops. I compared pyRok with pythm but i cant see any difference regarding gstreamer. PyRok uses pygame as UI. Maybe pygame interfeares with gstreamer somehow... Maybe somebody have an idea... You can get very detailed debugging information from gstreamer by setting the GST_DEBUG environment variable. export GST_DEBUG=3 before running you application for a moderate amount of information, 5 for a lot of information. You can use GST_DEBUG_NO_COLOR=1 if you want to redirect the output to a file without getting it filled with colour codes. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: unable to untar the file r...@om-gta02:~# tar -xzvf serenity-0.2.tar.gz tar: invalid gzip magic The archive is fine, it's just the filename that's wrong, it's not really gzipped. If you just do tar -xf serenity-0.2.tar.gz it'll unpack without problems. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to record calls
Pander wrote: Hi all, Someone has created a dictaphone application, but is it also possible to record directly from (within) the (SHR=FSO?) dailer? I was under the impression that audio for calls bypasses the CPU and operating system entirely, going straight from the sound chip to the GSM chip; if this is the case then such a recording wouldn't be possible. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] unmet dependancies mplayer
Davide Scaini wrote: Hi guys, on debian sid I cannot install mplayer 'cause unmet dependancies with libavcodec51 libavcodec-unstripped-51 do you experience the same problem or that's only my fault? I had the same issue, I just switched to using the debian-multimedia repositories for mplayer. Mirrors can be found at: http://debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php (you'll want to change stable to unstable). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] unmet dependancies mplayer
Davide Scaini wrote: which one do you selected and how you added the gpg key? thanks in advance d I should really have sent you this link: http://debian-multimedia.org/debian-m-unstable.php As it gives the unstable mirrors directly. It doesn't matter what mirror you select, which ever one is reasonably close to you; I ended up going for sunet's server in sweden as that's fairly reliable. You can get the keyring package here: http://debian-multimedia.org/faq.php#q1 Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bicycle Power adaptor for Freerunner
Alexander Mueller wrote: Hey all, is anybody out there who is using the FR on longer trips for navigation and/or geocaching? How did you solve the power problem? Hi Alex, Personally I just use a solar charger with a large waterproof panel strapped over my panniers (http://www.solartechnology.co.uk/products/Solar_Chargers/Globetrotter_green.asp). I also carry a couple of spare batteries in case the weather is really bad. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTK and OM
Hi Kasper, I have, however, read a lot of places, that the GTK-support will be removed from the OpenMoko. I think you're probably just reading a lot of old articles about how the GTK based OpenMoko applications (openmoko-messages, openmoko-contacts, openmoko-dialer, etc.) were going to be discontinued in favour of either the QPE/X11 apps (as found on 2008.x), or the E17 based apps (as found in SHR). However as far as I'm aware development of the GTK based applications is actually continuing in hackable. I think you can be fairly certain that GTK support won't be removed from OpenMoko. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] first total usable image
Ivan Shirokoff wrote: I've flashed SHR recently too. But occasionaly I've swiched my theme to absolutly unusible default one. And now I just can't switch back. I've looked through the configs in ~/.e/e/config and all of them are some kind of compiled data. I say does anyone know how can I change illume theme from console? If you don't mind losing your other illume configuration options you could just delete ~/.e then the next time illume starts it'll ask you what theme, language, etc. you want to use. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] XGlamo 240x320 no longer works
Hi all, I'm attempting to get a little 3D game development system (based on the Irrlicht engine) that I wrote a while back working on the Freerunner; it has a reasonably fast software renderer so doesn't need to wait for any future OpenGL support. At 480x640 I get 2-3 frames per second with a simple test world, I'd like to test at 240x320 as I expect this to be somewhat more usable. However with both the testing and stable SHR images XGlamo no longer seems to be able to switch to 240x320, I just get a corrupt, mostly white display until I switch back to 480x640 (both with xrandr at the command line and using libxrandr). Have other people encountered this issue? Is there a known way to get it working? Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] XGlamo 240x320 no longer works
Michael Sheldon wrote: However with both the testing and stable SHR images XGlamo no longer seems to be able to switch to 240x320, Sorry, I meant with both testing and *unstable* images. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Unstable
Tomas Riveros Schober wrote: so i had to remove the battery and start the phone again. After that the dialer app has never worked (crashes all the time), and neither does contacts or anything that accesses the SIM Have you checked to make sure that your SIM is seated correctly? Try removing it and putting it back in to make sure, it's possible that when removing the battery you opened the SIM holder's catches slightly and it's no longer making correct contact. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangoGPS 0.9.5 is out
Fernando Martins wrote: I'm using shr unstable (yesterday's) and I got * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangogps: * gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) * I tried: opkg install gtk+-fastscaling and I got: An error ocurred, return value: -50512. I'm not really familiar with opkg, but I think the packages are supposed to come from shr/unstable/ipk, but the package is not there... Just use --force-depends, in most recent builds the gtk+ package is simply gtk+ rather than gtk+-fastscaling. So you'll have all the necessary files anyway. Cheers, Mike. Marcus Bauer wrote: Hello, a new release of tangoGPS is out. Improvements are: - better handling of broken NMEA (some people experienced crashers) - fix for correct lat/lon display for eastern longitudes and southern latitudes - Google has changed their URI scheme thus satellite imagery works now too - anyway, there is copyright on them, just use free alternatives - a cool new default repository is opencycle map - the whole repository dialog is now overhauled ...and a couple more things. As usual you can get it at http://www.tangogps.org/ By the way, I will be at FOSDEM and spend some time at the GNOME stand. Just drop by and say hello. Have fun Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangoGPS 0.9.5 is out
Fernando Martins wrote: Michael Sheldon wrote: Fernando Martins wrote: Michael Sheldon wrote: Fernando Martins wrote: I'm using shr unstable (yesterday's) and I got * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangogps: * gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) * I tried: opkg install gtk+-fastscaling and I got: An error ocurred, return value: -50512. I'm not really familiar with opkg, but I think the packages are supposed to come from shr/unstable/ipk, but the package is not there... Just use --force-depends, in most recent builds the gtk+ package is simply gtk+ rather than gtk+-fastscaling. So you'll have all the necessary files anyway. Thanks, I used: opkg -force-depends install http://www.tangogps.org/downloads /tangogps_0.9.5-r0_armv4t.opk but I still get the same error. (I also tried --force-depends, it seems both syntaxes are accepted). Are you sure it was an error? You'll still see the same message with --force-depends but it will be downgraded to a warning instead of an error and the package will be installed despite it. Sorry, you are right; as I said, not really familiar with it, and a too quick reading of the message. Something else, the tangoGPS desktop icon stop being displayed during install. The tangogps.desktop file is under /usr/share/applications (I believe this is the right one) but it's not displayed anymore. I haven't rebooted yet to see if it comes back, but anyway I guess this should not be happening. Yes, it looks like there's a mistake in the tangogps.desktop file, instead of having the category Applications it has the category Application. You can fix this in one of two ways, either edit the tangogps.desktop file in /usr/share/applications or edit /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu, scroll down to the bottom and add CategoryApplication/Category to the Or section of the Accessories menu. Cheers, Mike. Marcus Bauer wrote: Hello, a new release of tangoGPS is out. Improvements are: - better handling of broken NMEA (some people experienced crashers) - fix for correct lat/lon display for eastern longitudes and southern latitudes - Google has changed their URI scheme thus satellite imagery works now too - anyway, there is copyright on them, just use free alternatives - a cool new default repository is opencycle map - the whole repository dialog is now overhauled ...and a couple more things. As usual you can get it at http://www.tangogps.org/ By the way, I will be at FOSDEM and spend some time at the GNOME stand. Just drop by and say hello. Have fun Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
arne anka wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! quite impressing a page ... If your mail client is like mine then it's not including the ! as part of the URL and so you end up at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh (blank page) instead of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! I've put in a redirect on the Yaouh page to avoid this problem in future. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
You don't need to power on the GPS device yourself, FSO will handle this for you when a client requests the GPS resource (and then power it down again when there are no longer any clients using it). You'll get empty data until the device acquires a fix. From what I've read elsewhere it seems important to make sure that your time-zone settings and date/time are correct, as it seems FSO uses these when getting a fix. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Telnet'ed to what port? The gpsd port 2947 should not return NMEA but just reply to one-letter commands: The 'r' command switches fso-gpsd to raw mode, so it'll give a constant stream of NMEA data as it receives it from ogpsd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
You're unlikely to get a fix indoors, you might be able to get one pressed up against a window, but for best results you should be outside. Fernando Martins wrote: No luck: - I've setup date and timezone; - GPS is on, per /sys/class... incantation - demon fso-gpsd is on, checked with ps - telnet comunicates with gpsd but no good data - tangoGPS doesn't find GPS device I have no idea of the reception capabilities of om (or GPS devices in general): is it supposed to work indoors? Any further suggestions? Thanks for all the help so far, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You don't need to power on the GPS device yourself, FSO will handle this for you when a client requests the GPS resource (and then power it down again when there are no longer any clients using it). You'll get empty data until the device acquires a fix. From what I've read elsewhere it seems important to make sure that your time-zone settings and date/time are correct, as it seems FSO uses these when getting a fix. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
Tim Schmidt wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo, please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to extend the smedia documentation to you. In fact we have done that in a few cases before already, but I'm not sure how much actual codes have come out of that. I think very little ;-) So we need some really serious coders that don't mind a tough challenge. I am not a skilled developer, but I would be more than happy to organize, and participate in a traditional clean room re-implementation of the documentation. As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member of the Open Graphics Project, as a Director of the Open Hardware Foundation, I believe I have the resources to accomplish such a task. I'd love to try. Can we make it happen? --tim I'd certainly be interested in attempting to add OpenGL support to the glamo driver if documentation were to become available, but I'm hesitant to put myself forward for anything that would require Openmoko Inc. to go out of their way by jumping through administrative loop holes to give access to the NDA'd documentation, as I'm unlikely to actually succeed (I have some experience of driver development, and experience of OpenGL from a high level point of view, but no actual experience of graphics driver development). So I think a freely available clean room rewrite of the documentation would be very helpful, as there may well be others in a similar position, people willing to take a look at the problem, but not confident enough to cause OpenMoko Inc. extra hassle/work for what may result in nothing. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
Tim Schmidt wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo, please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to extend the smedia documentation to you. In fact we have done that in a few cases before already, but I'm not sure how much actual codes have come out of that. I think very little ;-) So we need some really serious coders that don't mind a tough challenge. I am not a skilled developer, but I would be more than happy to organize, and participate in a traditional clean room re-implementation of the documentation. As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member of the Open Graphics Project, as a Director of the Open Hardware Foundation, I believe I have the resources to accomplish such a task. I'd love to try. Can we make it happen? --tim I'd certainly be interested in attempting to add OpenGL support to the glamo driver if documentation were to become available, but I'm hesitant to put myself forward for anything that would require Openmoko Inc. to go out of their way by jumping through administrative loop holes to give access to the NDA'd documentation, as I'm unlikely to actually succeed (I have some experience of driver development, and experience of OpenGL from a high level point of view, but no actual experience of graphics driver development). So I think a freely available clean room rewrite of the documentation would be very helpful, as there may well be others in a similar position, people willing to take a look at the problem, but not confident enough to cause OpenMoko Inc. extra hassle/work for what may result in nothing. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
Tim Schmidt wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not a skilled developer, but I would be more than happy to organize, and participate in a traditional clean room re-implementation of the documentation. As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member of the Open Graphics Project, as a Director of the Open Hardware Foundation, I believe I have the resources to accomplish such a task. I'd love to try. Can we make it happen? --tim I'd certainly be interested in attempting to add OpenGL support to the glamo driver if documentation were to become available, but I'm hesitant to put myself forward for anything that would require Openmoko Inc. to go out of their way by jumping through administrative loop holes to give access to the NDA'd documentation, as I'm unlikely to actually succeed (I have some experience of driver development, and experience of OpenGL from a high level point of view, but no actual experience of graphics driver development). So I think a freely available clean room rewrite of the documentation would be very helpful, as there may well be others in a similar position, people willing to take a look at the problem, but not confident enough to cause OpenMoko Inc. extra hassle/work for what may result in nothing. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL
Tim Schmidt wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, if someone wants to seriously develop for the glamo, please get in touch with me and we will find a legally correct way to extend the smedia documentation to you. In fact we have done that in a few cases before already, but I'm not sure how much actual codes have come out of that. I think very little ;-) So we need some really serious coders that don't mind a tough challenge. I am not a skilled developer, but I would be more than happy to organize, and participate in a traditional clean room re-implementation of the documentation. As a GTA02 owner, as a founding member of the Open Graphics Project, as a Director of the Open Hardware Foundation, I believe I have the resources to accomplish such a task. I'd love to try. Can we make it happen? --tim I'd certainly be interested in attempting to add OpenGL support to the glamo driver if documentation were to become available, but I'm hesitant to put myself forward for anything that would require Openmoko Inc. to go out of their way by jumping through administrative loop holes to give access to the NDA'd documentation, as I'm unlikely to actually succeed (I have some experience of driver development, and experience of OpenGL from a high level point of view, but no actual experience of graphics driver development). So I think a freely available clean room rewrite of the documentation would be very helpful, as there may well be others in a similar position, people willing to take a look at the problem, but not confident enough to cause OpenMoko Inc. extra hassle/work for what may result in nothing. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touchscreen scratch protection
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The default plastic protection of my screen is giving up after only a few days of use. Does anyone know of a good alternative like http://www.zagg.com/ or http://www.screenprotector.nl/ for Openmoko Freerunner? Zagg provides a screen protection for the FreeRunner. I've ordered and received one, but haven't installed it yet. I have 2 coupons for 20% discount, if anyone interested. Just mail me directly and i'll be happy to share them. Does it have any effect on keeping the screen reasonably clean from smudges when using a finger for input? Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wifi shelf gadget
If I remember correctly the gadget is always there (just not visible), it gets reports from the wifiget application and only displays an icon when there's signal strength to report. It doesn't do anything to switch on/off the wifi it just constantly monitors it. You probably want to be looking at the Settings program to see what happens when wifi is switched on/off there (as that's actually switching the wifi chip on or off). Cheers, Mike. pike wrote: Hi what exactly is it that makes the wifi icon show up in the shelf gadgets ? whatever I try, wifi won't seem to work if the icon is not showing. /etc/init.d/networking restart ;doesn't help ifdown eth0; ifup eth0; doesn't help udhcpc; doesn't help but the latter two options have success when the icon is showing (which may be caused by something else that's being changed by the application that also shows the icon, ofcourse). in any case, when I ever get to write a script that works properly, i want to show the icon, as well :-) how would I do that ? curious, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
In order of preference: Combination keyboard + qwerty Keyboard + trackball Touchscreen (Preferably with a few extra physical buttons though) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Arigead wrote: Michael Sheldon wrote: Pupino wrote: 2008/10/12 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Giovanni wrote: Does it also work on OM2007.2? Probably, assuming all the dependancies are available (which from memory I think they are). Give it a try and let me know ;). Cheers, Mike. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it's been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I've made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn't have an icon at the moment, it's the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn't hide the toolbar (otherwise there's no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn't overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko's colour scheme better (and so it's a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book's pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here's a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I'm testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Nice work! thank you! the book is into the wild? well the film had that name, maybe the book has a different one? Nope, *much* older book, good guess though :) Mike. I've a few days email on this list to catch up on so I'm sure you've got the answer to the book but I think I'll have a guess anyhow. Can't spell the name or give you the correct title of the book but you might know what I mean. The book is called either Walden or Walden pond? and it was written by Theareau? Does that make any sense? Good book if it's the one I think it is. Yep, that's right and you're actually the first to get it. I'm a bit surprised anyone got it since it's a fairly random page, so well done :). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Hi all, I’ve just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it’s been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I’ve made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn’t have an icon at the moment, it’s the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn’t hide the toolbar (otherwise there’s no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn’t overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko’s colour scheme better (and so it’s a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book’s pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here’s a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I’m testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Giovanni wrote: Does it also work on OM2007.2? Probably, assuming all the dependancies are available (which from memory I think they are). Give it a try and let me know ;). Cheers, Mike. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it's been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I've made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn't have an icon at the moment, it's the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn't hide the toolbar (otherwise there's no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn't overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko's colour scheme better (and so it's a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book's pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here's a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I'm testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Pupino wrote: 2008/10/12 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Giovanni wrote: Does it also work on OM2007.2? Probably, assuming all the dependancies are available (which from memory I think they are). Give it a try and let me know ;). Cheers, Mike. On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just spent the day hacking on FBReader to make it work correctly under OpenMoko (OM2008.*). Until now it's been pretty much unusable due to the GPE version of FBReader expecting you to be using a device that has some physical buttons which then get bound to vital functions like turning the page. The changes I've made are as follows: * Add scroll forward/backward buttons to the toolbar * Add fullscreen mode button to the toolbar (doesn't have an icon at the moment, it's the third button from the right) * Change fullscreen mode so that it doesn't hide the toolbar (otherwise there's no way to get back from fullscreen mode) * Switch to using the much prettier blue tango icons * Make the line separation larger so the text doesn't overlap * Reduce the font size * Change the default colours to match openmoko's colour scheme better (and so it's a little easier on the eyes) And most importantly… * Make it so that tapping the sides of the screen turns the book's pages (left = backwards, right = forwards) Here's a screenshot of what it used to look like: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-orig.png And what it looks like with my patches: http://blog.mikeasoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fbreader-openmoko.png To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch http://mikeasoft.com/%7Emike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. Bonus points for anyone who knows what book I'm testing it with in the screenshots (without googling) ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Nice work! thank you! the book is into the wild? well the film had that name, maybe the book has a different one? Nope, *much* older book, good guess though :) Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Hey this is a great thing, I might actually have a look at some old finnish classics (http://www.lonnrot.net/etext.html) For some reason the line spacing seems to be a bit too small (with setting 2.0) and the lines overlap. Is there a way to make the line spacing even bigger than this? Hi Risto, I had set the default spacing to 3.0 (which should be fine); however it turns out that the options dialog only allows up to 2.0, so if you view the options dialog then click OK it resets the spacing to 2.0. I've now fixed this so the options dialog will let you select anything up to 4.0. Just install the updated package available here: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r7+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner
Hi Yarik, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Hey Michael! You are my today's hero! ;-) Thanks! Would it be not too much to ask from you to do the same for the latest release of fbreader (0.8.17[1]) instead of elderly 0.8.2 which we have now? [1] http://www.fbreader.org/fbreader-sources-0.8.17.tgz I'll see if I can make a working bitbake recipe for 0.8.17 when I next get some free time; I haven't fiddled with bitbake much, so thought it'd be simplest to just work with the version that was already packaged. Cheers, Mike. Best regards Yarik On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Michael Sheldon wrote: Hi all, To install it simply run: opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk (all on one line) For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Host Dead??
Seattle Web Creations, LLC wrote: I have a huge problem – my FR doesn’t send power anymore in USB hostmode. The LED’s will flicker for a split second when I connect / disconnect it, but that’s it. I have had the same results with the 2007.2 image, as well as two different Debian SD card OS’s. What can I do if anything to fix this? This may be an obvious question, but have you tried with a different USB cable? With any luck it's just your usb cable that's on the fritz ;). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Usable Keyboard
Dale Maggee wrote: Press and hold the letter for about 1.5-2 sec. I'm aware of this Quite easy to form words this way. Granted, it's not difficult, but it's damn time-comsuming! typing my name takes nearly 10 seconds this way! :O Using FSO image these days but i used to type on the terminal in Qtopia easily with this keyboard. How did you type / quickly? Enter is sliding finger towards the right quickly! Are you sure it's enter and not space? Sliding right will send the currently selected word to the application (same as tapping the word). The return key is on the symbols page, on the bottom right. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
Olivier Berger wrote: Dimitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm with you, Dirk. This qtopia keyboard just doesn't function right. And switching .kbd files does nothing. Flicking only toggles the different views of the keyboard, none of which contain the enter or arrow keys. (Since we're throwing out essential keys, why stop there? Let's remove some letters too. I nominate the letter E.) I reinstalled matchbox, and I see it trying to come on, but it immediately gets cock-blocked by the qtopia keyboard. If someone could please explain how to disable the qtopia keyboard, I (and many others) would be most appreciative. And having : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle#Reactivating_the_keyboard_toggle_under_ASU up-to-date would help, I guess. ... if this is what it's about... I'm not sure : ASU vs. 2008.8... Anyway, might help ? You're correct the wiki is out-of-date, you can now simply opkg install illume-config to give you the keyboard button (and the illume configuration button), I've updated the wiki to reflect this. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing
Steven Kurylo wrote:
Hi,
I just installed the latest tangogps (0.9.2-r1) on 2008.8. Several
GUI widgets aren't drawing properly, which were fine on other
distributions.
On the bottom left hand corner I see maps but none of the other tabs
to the right are shown, its black. However if I tap in the black
area, the page loads properly (trip, config, etc). If I'm on the trip
page, I can see the trip tab, but the rest are black.
On the map page, the fullscreen button on the top is cut off. I
also can't see the autocenter button.
Is this happening to other people with 2008.8?
Yes, the gtk theme is a bit buggy, attached my own fixed gtkrc which
reduces the inner button borders to a reasonable size and fixes the
background colour of inactive notebook tabs.
This makes both tangogps and some other GTK apps much more usable.
You can either install it by overwriting
/usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc or I think by sticking it in
~/.gtkrc-2.0
Cheers,
Mike.
# Moko GTK+ theme
#
# Copyright 2007 OpenedHand Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Based on OpenedHand's Sato GTK+ Theme
#
# This theme uses several style properties introduced in GTK+ 2.10
#
# black: #33
# orange: #ff7d00
#
gtk-button-images = 0
gtk-menu-images = 0
gtk-icon-sizes =
gtk-button=32,32:gtk-small-toolbar=48,48:gtk-large-toolbar=48,48
# Set the default gtk-color-scheme property
gtk_color_scheme =
fg_color:#000;bg_color:#f4f0f4;base_color:#fff;text_color:#000;selected_bg_color:#ff7d00;selected_fg_color:#000
style default
{
xthickness = 2
ythickness = 2
GtkButton::default_border = {0, 0, 0, 0}
GtkButton::focus-line-width = 0
GtkCheckButton::indicator-size = 35
GtkCheckButton::indicator-spacing = 5
GtkCheckMenuItem::indicator_size = 18
GtkEntry::inner_border = {10, 10, 10, 10}
GtkFrame::shadow_type = GTK_SHADOW_NONE
GtkPaned::handle-size = 16
GtkRange::slider-width = 28
GtkRange::trough_border = 0
GtkScale::slider-length = 56
GtkScrollbar::has_backward_stepper = 1
GtkScrollbar::has_forward_stepper = 1
GtkScrollbar::has_secondary_backward_stepper = 1
GtkScrollbar::has_secondary_forward_stepper = 1
GtkScrollbar::slider_width = 30
GtkScrollbar::stepper_size = 26
GtkScrollbar::stepper_spacing = 0
GtkSpinButton::shadow_type = GTK_SHADOW_NONE
GtkTreeView::allow_rules = 1
GtkTreeView::even_row_color = #fff
GtkTreeView::odd_row_color = #e7e7e7
GtkTreeView::vertical_separator = 6
GtkWidget::focus_line_width = 2
GtkWidget::focus_padding = 0
GtkWidget::scroll-arrow-vlength = 48
GtkWidget::scroll-arrow-hlength = 48
MokoDialerTextview::large_font = 20
MokoDialerTextview::medium_font = 15
MokoDialerTextview::medium_font = 15
MokoDialerTextview::small_font = 10
fg [NORMAL] = @fg_color
fg [PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
fg [ACTIVE] = @selected_fg_color
fg [INSENSITIVE] = @fg_color
fg [SELECTED] = @selected_fg_color
bg [NORMAL] = @bg_color
bg [PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
bg [ACTIVE] = @selected_bg_color
bg [INSENSITIVE] = lighter (@bg_color)
bg [SELECTED] = @selected_bg_color
text [NORMAL] = @text_color
text [PRELIGHT] = @text_color
text [SELECTED] = @text_color
text [ACTIVE] = @text_color
base [NORMAL] = @base_color
base [SELECTED] = @selected_bg_color
base [ACTIVE] = @base_color
engine moko-engine {
border = TRUE
}
}
class GtkWidget style default
style reversed
{
bg[NORMAL] = @fg_color
fg[NORMAL] = @bg_color
bg[PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
fg[PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
}
widget_class *GtkButton* style reversed
style button
{
GtkButton::inner_border = {1, 1, 1, 1}
engine moko-engine {
border = TRUE
gradient = TRUE
}
}
class GtkButton style button
style button-colors {
bg[NORMAL] = #333
fg[NORMAL] = #fff
bg[PRELIGHT] = #333
fg[PRELIGHT] = #fff
}
widget_class GtkButton* style button-colors
style treeview-header {
# inner-border was added in GTK+ 2.10
GtkButton::inner_border = {0, 0, 0, 0}
bg[NORMAL] = #eee
fg[NORMAL] = #000
bg[PRELIGHT] = #eee
fg[PRELIGHT] = #000
engine moko-engine {
border = FALSE
gradient = TRUE
}
}
widget_class *GtkTreeView.GtkButton* style treeview-header
style combo {
bg[NORMAL] = @selected_bg_color
text[NORMAL] = @selected_fg_color
bg[PRELIGHT] = @selected_bg_color
text[PRELIGHT] = @selected_fg_color
engine moko-engine {
gradient = TRUE
}
}
widget_class *Combo* style combo
style toolbar
{
GtkToolbar::internal_padding = 0
xthickness = 0
ythickness = 0
engine moko-engine {
gradient = TRUE
border = FALSE
}
}
class GtkToolbar style toolbar
class GtkToolbar style reversed
style toolitem
{
xthickness = 12
ythickness = 12
bg[NORMAL] = @selected_bg_color
fg[NORMAL] = @selected_fg_color
# toolbar colours are reversed
bg[PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
fg[PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
engine moko-engine {
gradient = TRUE
border = FALSE
}
}
widget_class *Tool*GtkToggleButton style toolitem
widget_class *Tool*GtkButton style toolitem
Re: external keyboard
Greg Bonett wrote: Is anyone using their FreeRunner with an external USB or Bluetooth keyboard? If so, how hard was it to get working? I am, it's pretty simple, just run: echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode This'll put the Freerunner in to powered USB host mode, then just plug in the keyboard and it'll work. Personally I've made a .desktop file to switch into and out of host mode. To switch back to unpowered device mode just run: echo device /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Could someone explain me the + + + and the * at the bottom of the screen (Om 2008.8) ?
Stephen Shelton wrote: I'm still yet to understand how to exit an application on the 2008.8 that doesn't itself provide an out. Bring down the application list by pressing the top of the screen and a REMOVE button will appear on the bottom left of the panel, this will exist the currently focused application. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit?
Dale Maggee wrote: do you have an ipkg? did you get gpsd support to compile? I've tried compiling the svn version, but I get the following during 'make': /usr/local/openmoko/arm/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.2/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lpq collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [osm2navit] Error 1 om-conf seems to work, although it still isn't enabling gpsd. You shouldn't need to use the separate openmoko buildchain, there's a navit recipe in openembedded which should build navit and all the required dependencies. Just setup the MokoMakefile: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile Then run: make build-package-navit This'll probably take a long time, since it'll first have to build the tool chain and all dependencies. If I get time later I'll see about doing a build of it and making it available. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit?
Tilman Baumann wrote: Yorick Moko wrote: the ipk from http://aiurlano.netsons.org/OpenMoko/ipk/armv4t/ is outdated though I'm really glad Navit is getting the attention it deserves now. If anyone could make a new build (package) with the lastest version. And maybe even some gui improvements (tabed layout vs windowed, remove menu bar) or maybe some config apps (editing naxit.xml) for selecting maps. Or working speech integration. some ready built maps which integrate themselves in navit.xml would be great too. updating maps via opkg seems like a good idea. I've uploaded a build of the latest stable version (0.04) to http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/ipk/armv4t/ Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg tries to install package with wrong arch? (Was: What is Exposure?)
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems there are no om-gta02 kernel packages on downloads; as such I've updated the feeds config at http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz to include the buildhost om-gta02 repository, and I'm now getting correct kernels being installed when upgrading. It still doesn't look quite right here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg -test upgrade Upgrading angstrom-version on root from 1:P1-Snapshot-20080725-r1 to 1:P1-Snapshot-20080726-r1... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/om-gta02/angstrom-version_P1-Snapshot-20080726-r1_om-gta02.ipk Upgrading e-wm on root from 0.16.999.042+cvs20080725-r10 to 0.16.999.042+cvs20080725-r11... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.042+cvs20080725-r11_armv4t.ipk Upgrading kernel on root from 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 to 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/neo1973/kernel_2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1_neo1973.ipk I did an opkg update first, of course. Is opkg caching this information somewhere else? Or am I doing something wrong? Could you check that you now have a file called /etc/opkg/om-gta02-daily-feed.conf? I'm going to be away for about a week with little or no internet connectivity, but I'll try to help when I get back if it hasn't been resolved by then. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:06:15AM +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote: I'm planning on getting a USB keyboard (a frogpad) to use with my Freerunner, so might be willing to have a play around with getting this sort of thing to work (time permitting). Will a USB FrogPad even work ? -aW There are images on the wiki of someone successfully using a frogpad with Debian on the Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/2/27/Debian%2Bfrogpad.jpg so it should certainly be possible to get working. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Michael Sheldon wrote: Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:06:15AM +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote: I'm planning on getting a USB keyboard (a frogpad) to use with my Freerunner, so might be willing to have a play around with getting this sort of thing to work (time permitting). Will a USB FrogPad even work ? -aW There are images on the wiki of someone successfully using a frogpad with Debian on the Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/2/27/Debian%2Bfrogpad.jpg so it should certainly be possible to get working. Oops, sorry my mistake, that's a bluetooth frogpad. But I would guess the usb version presents itself as a normal usb keyboard. Cheersm Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: More info. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like the read battary charging indicator. :-) Oops... red - red battery indicator. :) How do I restart qpe? Therer doesn't seems to be a script for that in /etc/init.d When I try to restart qpe manually, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# DISPLAY=:0.0 qpe ficgta01hardware plugin Modem : opening serial device /dev/ttySAC0 at 115200 Modem : Device: /dev/ttySAC0 is a tty device: True Modem : NONBLOCK successfully reset Modem : Opened /dev/ttySAC0 AtChat : T : AT+CMUX=0,0,5,31 Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Modem : Multiplexing has been disabled. AtChat : T : AT+CGMI Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Modem : No modem vendor plug-in found - using default AtChat : T : AT+CBC QDSync : QDSyncTask::QDSyncTask To me, it looks like something is wrong here. But it could just be me. Well with regards to it not detecting the modem, I found that an upgrade from the downloads feed installed what I think was a neo1973 kernel, so I just quickly flashed a freerunner kernel from buildhost which made the phone work correctly again. But I'm not sure if your current problem is being caused by that, or whether it's a completely separate problem. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How can I hear Music with A Headphone
Carsten Feuls wrote: Hello how can I hear Music with the Headphone. I have a adaptor but only the right speaker work the left don't work how can I fix this. Start alsamixer, scroll along to the right until you find Amp Spk and mute it (m), the sound will then come out from both channels of the headphones and not out of the speaker. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Michael Sheldon wrote: Michael Sheldon wrote: Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 02:06:15AM +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote: I'm planning on getting a USB keyboard (a frogpad) to use with my Freerunner, so might be willing to have a play around with getting this sort of thing to work (time permitting). Will a USB FrogPad even work ? -aW There are images on the wiki of someone successfully using a frogpad with Debian on the Freerunner: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/2/27/Debian%2Bfrogpad.jpg so it should certainly be possible to get working. Oops, sorry my mistake, that's a bluetooth frogpad. But I would guess the usb version presents itself as a normal usb keyboard. Just to follow up on that from the frogpad FAQ: Q: Is the FrogPad™ compatible with my device? A: FrogPad™ is a standard USB plug-and-play keyboard and can be used with wearable PC's, Tablets, DeskTops, Laptops, Linux, and MACs (OS 9) and above. It Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg tries to install package with wrong arch? (Was: What is Exposure?)
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, After pointing the opkg repository to http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ per Michael Sheldon's instructions and doing an 'opkg update' on my FreeRunner, I do this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg -test upgrade Upgrading kernel on root from 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 to 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/neo1973/kernel_2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1_neo1973.ipk Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Why does opkg try to install a kernel for the neo1973? My current kernel is this one: Package: kernel Version: 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 Depends: kernel-2.6.24 Status: install user installed Architecture: om-gta02 Installed-Time: 1217001495 But it tries to install this one: Package: kernel Version: 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1 Depends: kernel-2.6.24 Status: unknown ok not-installed Section: kernel Architecture: neo1973 maintainer: Angstrom Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] MD5Sum: a39c6c6ecd0cf5375f3cf05568a12115 Size: 864 Filename: kernel_2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1_neo1973.ipk Source: git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git;protocol=git;branch=stable Description: Linux 2.6.x (development) kernel for FIC SmartPhones shipping w/ Openmoko Why? It seems there are no om-gta02 kernel packages on downloads; as such I've updated the feeds config at http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz to include the buildhost om-gta02 repository, and I'm now getting correct kernels being installed when upgrading. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Jeff Tickle wrote:
Hey all,
I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul),
and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard.
I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with
the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then
removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's
text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd
personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone
would want this done automatically.
Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I
know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663
Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from
downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't
find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site.
I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building ASU
packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly aimed
at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your opkg
feeds to use http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/
which has all the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with
keyboard support enabled). You can download the correct config files from:
http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz
Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc,
then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas request it.
I tried editing the
file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting
'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that
caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of
compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.)
So, in short: what is up with the keyboard?
You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from:
http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj
Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that
you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated though).
Cheers,
Mike.
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Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Jacob Peterson wrote:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Jeff Tickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey all,
I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul),
and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard.
I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with
the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then
removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's
text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd
personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone
would want this done automatically.
Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I
know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663
Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from
downloads.openmoko.org http://downloads.openmoko.org instead of
buildhost.openmoko.org http://buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't
find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site.
I tried editing the
file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting
'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that
caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of
compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.)
So, in short: what is up with the keyboard?
-Jeff
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In short I have come to understand that the decision was made to go with
the Qtopia keyboard over the Illume keyboard, but the Qtopia keyboard
needs a layer to auto-request it such as matchbox or multitap (which is
not installed by default) and with no manual button there is no easy way
to access it. That is how I have come to understand it, please correct
me if I am wrong here.
Qtopia has a built in keyboard, but because you're using an old
version of qpe (see my previous mail on this topic) it's not enabled. If
you wished you could install the matchbox-keyboard or multitap instead
of using the qpe keyboard and these will pop-up when applications
request them.
Cheers,
Mike.
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Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
simarillion wrote:
Thank you,
it works fine, but how can I switch to the full keyboard which has not only
the letters? Do I need an additional package?
Drag your finger upwards (or downwards) and you'll cycle through the
layouts (lower case, upper case, symbols, numbers).
Cheers,
Mike.
Greets
Michael
Am Donnerstag 24 Juli 2008 18:18:52 schrieb Michael Sheldon:
Jeff Tickle wrote:
Hey all,
I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul),
and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard.
I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with
the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then
removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's
text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd
personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone
would want this done automatically.
Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I
know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663
Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from
downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't
find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site.
I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building ASU
packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly aimed
at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your opkg
feeds to use http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/
which has all the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with
keyboard support enabled). You can download the correct config files from:
http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz
Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc,
then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas request it.
I tried editing the
file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting
'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that
caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of
compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.)
So, in short: what is up with the keyboard?
You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from:
http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj
Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that
you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated
though).
Cheers,
Mike.
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Re: Purchasing Neo Freerunner in the UK
Ross Woodruff wrote: Hope this is the right mailing list to ask this but I am just wondering where people in the UK purchased their FreeRunners from. I'm thinking of getting one in the near future and just wondering if anybody has used the TrueBox distributor or if you bought yours elsewhere, perhaps somewhere else in Europe... I'd just like to see which would be the best place for me to purchase a FreeRunner if there is anywhere else that ships to the UK and will work on a UK phone network (I'm on O2). I got mine from Truebox, perfectly happy with the service. As far as I'm aware they're currently the only official distributor actually in the UK, but companies like Pulster will ship to the UK. I'm using mine with Orange, which works fine, but I can't comment on whether O2 do anything odd. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What is Exposure?
Christopher White wrote:
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 11:45 -0400, Jeff Tickle wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:20:53 +
Christopher White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm running stock ASU package set, just did an opkg update and
upgrade. I launch Exposure from the front screen, get the Starting
Exposure at the bottom, but then nothing.
I had the same problem. Looks like a packaging bug or something.
Wow...found this little gem (see below) in a different thread about the
ASU keyboard. Once I switched to the new opkg feeds, exposure works
just fine.
Thanks for packaging it up Michael. BTW, where did you find this info
about the feeds? I didn't see anything like this on the wiki?
It was the mention on the bug report Jeff linked to in the ASU
keyboard thread that we should be using the packages from
downloads.openmoko.org that put me on the right track, after that it was
just a matter of poking around to find the up-to-date ASU repositories
there and update the opkg feed configs.
Cheers,
Mike.
...cj
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 17:18 +0100, Michael Sheldon wrote:
Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from
downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't
find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site.
I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building ASU
packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly aimed
at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your opkg
feeds to use http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/
which has all the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with
keyboard support enabled). You can download the correct config files from:
http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz
Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc,
then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas request it.
I tried editing the
file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting
'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that
caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of
compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.)
So, in short: what is up with the keyboard?
You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from:
http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj
Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that
you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated though).
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Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Jeff Tickle wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:52 +0100
Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeff Tickle wrote:
Hey all,
I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23
Jul), and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard.
I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with
the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and
then removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when
there's text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately.
I'd personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why
someone would want this done automatically.
Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I
know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663
Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from
downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I
can't find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the
downloads site.
I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building
ASU packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly
aimed at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your
opkg feeds to use
http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ which has all
the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with keyboard
support enabled). You can download the correct config files from:
http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz
Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc,
then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas
request it.
I tried editing the
file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting
'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that
caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some
sort of compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.)
So, in short: what is up with the keyboard?
You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from:
http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj
Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note
that you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is
updated though).
ASU is AWESOME once it's working properly. Thanks so much!
I'd like to put this on the Wiki. Is it okay if I link directly to
those files, or is there some way we can upload such arbitrary files to
the current wiki?
I'm fine with you linking to them, plenty of spare bandwidth ;)
Cheers,
Mike.
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Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Ken Restivo wrote: The dictionary prediction is driving me crazy. I'm trying to type ls, and the damned dictionary is trying to be smart, and is changing it to is. So I'm sitting here in a terminal, typing ls, and is is all I can get. Also, I lost track of where the Full-QWERTY keyboard layout was for ASU, and how to find/enable/create it. Sorry for being such a pain, but the terminal will be one of the main apps I use on this thing, so I'm finding these. I assume by the predictive dictionary you're using the built-in qtopia keyboard. You can get it to not be predictive by holding a key until the zoom dialog pops up (a little gray circle showing which key you have pressed). And you can get at other keyboard buttons (symbols, numbers, etc.) by sliding your finger upwards or downwards. By the Full-QWERTY keyboard I think you mean the Illume keyboard (which was what popped up until recently), but that's now disabled (in the Illume code) in favour of the qtopia keyboard. But you should be able to get virtually all the same keys you had available with that with the qtopia keyboard (there are a small number missing, like the cursor keys), you just have to know about the need to slide upwards to reveal the other layouts. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Michael Sheldon wrote: Ken Restivo wrote: The dictionary prediction is driving me crazy. I'm trying to type ls, and the damned dictionary is trying to be smart, and is changing it to is. So I'm sitting here in a terminal, typing ls, and is is all I can get. Also, I lost track of where the Full-QWERTY keyboard layout was for ASU, and how to find/enable/create it. Sorry for being such a pain, but the terminal will be one of the main apps I use on this thing, so I'm finding these. I assume by the predictive dictionary you're using the built-in qtopia keyboard. You can get it to not be predictive by holding a key until the zoom dialog pops up (a little gray circle showing which key you have pressed). And you can get at other keyboard buttons (symbols, numbers, etc.) by sliding your finger upwards or downwards. By the Full-QWERTY keyboard I think you mean the Illume keyboard (which was what popped up until recently), but that's now disabled (in the Illume code) in favour of the qtopia keyboard. But you should be able to get virtually all the same keys you had available with that with the qtopia keyboard (there are a small number missing, like the cursor keys), you just have to know about the need to slide upwards to reveal the other layouts. One additional thing to consider, which might be useful for a lot of people, is adding standard unix commands to the dictionary (perhaps a script to automatically populate it with the contents of /bin /usr/bin/ /usr/sbin etc.)? Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there some way to turn the predictive dictionary off?
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: one FIXME i have in the code is auto-detecting a real keyboard (usb or bluetooth). if you plug in or use a REAL keyboard you'd like the virtual one to just slide away and hide while this is the case (or course begin able to manually bring it up if wanted). right now i don't know a CLEAN way to auto-detect this. (and by CLEAN i mean a way that would work not just on the freerunner, but on a desktop as well, and any other device that is similar - so in future as we produce new and interesting devices - the exact same code just keeps working without specific changes per device)... unfortunately for me - this is a lower priority thing as well. i have no usb keyboard that plugs in and works with my FR, no a bluetooth one... if i get around to having these 2 - i'd definitely look into it. in the meantime... anyone who wants to find a nice clean way to detect this... it'd make this happen sooner... :) What about checking hal at startup (then subsequently monitoring hal events) to see if a device with input.keyboard in its info.capabilities list exists or is added/removed? I'm planning on getting a USB keyboard (a frogpad) to use with my Freerunner, so might be willing to have a play around with getting this sort of thing to work (time permitting). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
I noticed something funny when the PIN code dialog for the SIM card
came up: not all keys on the keyboard produce the correct characters.
On the numbers panel of the keuboard (fr lack of a better word)*,
the key row 1 -0 produces these characters:123456{[]}
All other keys produces the correct character, as far as I can determine.
I believe this is a known bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1533
It occurs when the USB cable is plugged in, try removing the USB and
see if the keyboard starts working correctly.
Cheers,
Mike.
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Re: Terminal for ASU
Dale Schumacher wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: edje_decc (from edj-utils) the illume.edj file (enligtenment theme installed in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes). in the directory find the .edc file - edit. search for a comment string don't look at me. here are 3 of them. notice the line above i the same entry - just commented out with a different value. comment out the line with the don't look at me comment and UNCOMMENT the line above. you'll get a keyboard button. rebuild the file (build.sh or edje_cc file.edc) and copy the .edj file back on top of the original... restart E (killall -HUP enlightenment will do the job - along with a dozen other mechanisms... all but 1 disabled). :) ...and then post the results somewhere the user community can get it. http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj This restores the button for me, but I'm in the same situation as a few other people whereby the keyboard doesn't appear under any circumstances, whether triggered by an entry field or by pressing the restored qwerty button. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
