Re: Broken FR for sale
Well, IDK how it's useful for home automation, if it doesn't have a screen... Perhaps you mean as a server, not a client, but even so, that requires a lot of hardware and skill I don't have. :P Also, seeing as I don't have a car, only a bike, it wouldn't be particularly useful for tracking a stolen vehicle, even if the GPS was working. About the only thing I can think of that it would be useful to me for is to trade it in for an A7 (or at least something with a buzzfix) with a working screen, and get a huge discount for it. I have no idea if that's feasible, but my gut says no. Now, if anyone wants to sell me a screen, I'm very interested. It would be fun to try to repair it, although probabilistically speaking I would be more likely to break every component in the phone that does work, including the new screen, when I tried to replace it... Nevertheless, it's worth a shot. But for now, that's a dead end unless I can find a touchscreen that fits in it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken FR for sale
Well, I'm not really planning to buy another one. I enjoyed playing with it while I had it, but now I really just want something that works, works well, and keeps working. :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken FR for sale
I have? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken FR for sale
Yeah, but I kinda need a screen for that. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken FR for sale
Well, the irritating thing is, There is NOTHING a screenless FR can do that my laptop can't, and if I need a computer to make it do anything interesting, then what's the point in having a 400MHz processor do it instead of my 2.0GHz dual-core? :P The stupid GPS doesn't even work anymore, apparently a software issue, but one I cannot fix anyways. Dos1 had the same problem, and his magically started working again. Mine committed suicide first. :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken FR for sale
OK, last chance: anyone who wants it, one FR with cracked LCD, comes with accessories. Current bid is about $70. Anyone care to raise it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bricked FR!! D:
Well, we've determined in IRC that the LCD is cracked and not fixable without replacing it, and I don't want to put that much more money into it. :( I'm hoping to sell it for a little something. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken FR for sale
Further elaboration, forgive my oversight: It is the North American version, so 850. I live in Arkansas, US. As to price, think of it as an eBay auction. Current bid is €50, which is about $74.50. Buy it now is $100 and free shipping. :) Payment is via PayPal only, please. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bricked FR!! D:
My FR's screen has given out. It now just shows all white with vertical lines of various colors. Pressing the screen or hitting it can change the pattern/color of lines. It sounds like brute-force trauma to the screen, but it was working fine this morning and I haven't done anything cruel to it since then... I've rebooted, and hard-reset it. No good. Any ideas? Is it dead? -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bricked FR!! D:
Nope, screen is totally useless at all times, and as near as I can tell the computer works just fine. Just no screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bricked FR!! D:
Not sure what you mean by that, but the phone boots just fine. It even blanks the screen and turns it on when I touch it, it just doesn't show anything useful on it. I can connect it and ping it and SSH into it and play music from it. The screen just doesn't work. All white with some vertical colored lines. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bricked FR!! D:
$127 + shipping, and I don't even get a buzzfix out of the mix? :\ Doesn't really sound worth it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bricked FR!! D:
I don't see how it can be _broken_ as it was working until it magically stopped, and I know I didn't hit it when it stopped... Though I did hit it a few times afterwards, but not hard enough to break it. I hope. How do I get at that cable? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Broken FR for sale
If anyone wants it, I have one broken FR and I've gotta get rid of it. The computational aspect is fine, the only part of it that doesn't work is the screen, which is cracked. The screen DOES NOT WORK!! It's cracked and you can't see anything useful. Just colors and lines. The phone itself works fine, including the touchscreen (if you know where to touch without seeing anything). You can SSH in and play music. It still works, it just has no meaningful display. It is A5 with no buzzfix. Comes with 3 batteries, wall charger, stylus pen, USB cable, OM branded neoprene pouch, and wired headset. If you're interested, make me an offer. -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buzzfix
Hello. Alas, I've never had trouble with GSM buzz before, but now I'm getting reports of problems with some people's phones (not all, but the ones that do have trouble have it consistently). My FR is an A5 revision. I just looked at the PDF on how to do the fix, and I definitely can't do it myself. Anyone willing to do it for me, preferably close to or in Arkansas, please contact me. I missed the bandwagon to have it fixed free, so I'm willing to pay as long as the price isn't too high. :) -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher 0.30 release
Hey, c_c. :) I wasn't sure what exactly this was, so I installed it to check it out. Unfortunately, I only have one screen of icons now so I don't really need it, but it looks really nice. Only two things: * The clock was cut in half horizontally by the blue background below and black above. Completely aesthetic, not a functionality issue at all. * The clock is in 24-hr format, and I saw a way to change the format in the settings, but I don't remember how. It's %pH:%M %ampm or something, right? Again, purely aesthetic. The finger scrolling was smth as anything. :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all / linux] neo as gps unit?
Just use USB and gpsd. It works perfectly well. Except for me, my GPS quit working a while back and hasn't started again yet. }:( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.63 release
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:44 AM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: I still have a minor issue with intone : if the link to the BT headset is lost (out of range, no more battery) then intone would freeze. Not convenient :) Yes, Intone will freeze any time mplayer goes out. If the headset connection is lost, then mplayer locks up, and Intone follows suit. This would be fixed by implementing some kind of protection between mplayer and Intone, but I'm not sure what. Perhaps Intone could have some kind of thread to check if mplayer is still running or locked up, and then kill -9 it and start over? IDK... -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (7 Votes so far)
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:48 AM, HighCat highcatl...@gmail.com wrote: Marcel-2 wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 13:25 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster: rakshat hooja schrieb: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze: Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR: I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer). According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon. 2 Votes so far. +1 3 Votes +1 4 votes. +1 5 votes 6 votes, Thomas Franck voted in the forked thread. So, with mine it's 7 I confess, I have not read the Hall of Fame thread carefully, so I'm not sure if there are rules of eligibility for voting, but in the event that there are not (or that I meet them) then... Neon++; -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is there any VoIP/Skype software on SHR?
Well, I can tell you that there is no Skype software for FR. Skype is closed source, and the protocol is closed as well, so no-one can compile it for ARM processors and no-one can make a 3rd party client. Aside from that, you can use whatever VOIP software you want, but you'll probably have to build it for FR yourself. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evopedia 0.2.1
I agree with c_c... The 7GiB dump is just too big. Is it compressed? I assume it's just a text dump, and the images are already thrown out. Otherwise it would probably be far larger than 7GiB. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Any] Pianobar
Hey, would someone care to try building a package for FR of Pianobar? That would be really handy. :) http://6xq.net/html/00/17.html -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon!
I'll second that! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset
I don't have that issue, but it may be an issue with your headset. Mine is designed to switch between modes automatically, yours may not. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.62 release
Jeremy: Sounds like mplayer's nice is back up to 0. Check in settings that it's set to -20 or something insane, so it gets top priority. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset
Nope. Bluetooth is quite experimental at this stage. Apparently, the devs didn't realize people wanted BT support, so they never finished it. I've been rallying the ranks trying to make it quite clear that we do, indeed, want good bluetooth support. In the mean time, it's functional, but not pretty. The correct page to use is: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Once_Again.2C_Bluetooth_Headset_on_Freerunnerbut note that those instructions are for SHR unstable, and may or may not work on other distros. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset
Nah, get a G2 or something. iPhone is a rip-off. And if I were you, I'd just get a buzzfix. I'm sure someone on this list will be able to do it for you, if you pay shipping. Unfortunately, using bluetooth will not fix the GSM buzz (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I'm just lucky enough that I don't have it where I live, though I've been told it does happen in other places. I missed the bandwagon to have it fixed free, because I didn't want to give my phone up for the time to fix it, but I wish I had... I don't care what OpenMoko says, the FR is still a prototype phone. It's a revised prototype, but a prototype none the less. Personally, I enjoy playing with it, but it's not for everyone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset
Well, I'm not certain, someone who knows better should comment. But I don't believe using BT fixes GSM buzz. I've been wrong before, though... :) Anyways, SHR-U should use your headset if anything will. The wiki page I linked is the one I used and several others have used successfully. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset
There's a line in a config file you need to uncomment. See the wiki page for details. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset
And you've set the bt-headset-address and bt-headset-enabled variables, then rebooted the phone? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: List of bluetooth headsets
Does headset with jackout exist as well, would be cool to have a jack out on the headset for connecting to a HiFi Stereo... :) Well, mine has a micro-USB port, but I can't figure out any way to use it other than for charging. I can charge it via USB from a computer, but the computer doesn't even seem aware that it's connected. Nothing interesting in dmesg or lsusb. Maybe it can be used for audio input, but if so, I think you'd have to pull it out of stealth mode. Hahahah ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [fso] rules for bluetooth headset: BTHeadsetIsConnected() is always true
I figured it was something like this, since there's no way to switch from handset to BT or back without restarting frameworkd and ophonekitd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Best Distro to use bluetooth headset
Unfortunately, bluetooth calling support is preset but woefully inadequate. SHR will use it, but you have to restart some services (or reboot) to turn BT on or off. Other than that, it works. Look at the 'Manually Using Bluetooth' wiki page. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Flemming: Here's the wiki page for GSM calls: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Once_Again.2C_Bluetooth_Headset_on_Freerunner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Glad to hear you got it working, c_c. :) In the mean time, I've had to disable bluetooth entirely since it's just not ready to use yet. If I suspend the phone, then it disconnects from the headset, and I can't answer calls until I run the dbus command, which isn't realistic to do while the phone is ringing. Also, I need a way to enable/disable bluetooth without editing configs and restarting frameworkd and ophonekitd, as doing so takes several minutes. They aren't big complaints, but for me they are dealbreakers. I kept missing calls because my phone had decided to disconnect from the headset, and in that scenario, I would like to call back within seconds, not minutes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Yes, it can be done with bash scripts, but there's no avoiding restarting frameworkd and ophonekitd. That's the part that takes so long. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:43 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Well, I've been trying to get my headset (Jabra 125) to work and I must say I've not been able to get anything going. Steps taken - (/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf SCORouting=PCM was already commented) You say it was already commented... Did you uncomment it? That line MUST be uncommented (so bluez parses it) before bluetooth calls will work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
It would be nice if it remembered from one run to the next to use BT headset... Other than that, it's great. :) It's doing well with my evil superfluous keypresses, and I love that it turns on BT and uinput automatically now. Saves me a lot of time when I try to listen to music. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm...upon further testing I did notice a couple of other things that may be specific to my headset. Occasionally the key presses from my headset stop being picked up by intoneit looks like they are being sent to the phone because the screen will turn on, but intone doesn't respond. But then after a song change it sometimes comes back. Could it be related to the name of the song? I'll try to remember to write down the name of any of the songs that the buttons stop working on in the future... This may be my headset...but it seems like sometimes after a couple of the blips in the sound the song seems slightly distortedlike some of the instruments suddenly sound flat... Not sure what is causing thishas anyone else experienced it? Overall still certainly very usable though! Thanks again for the great program! -Dan Staley Ditto on #1 there. Sometimes buttons stop working, though screen unblanks when I hit them. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is your GPS working today?
Nope, my GPS is dead in SHR-U. I've upgraded since it last worked, but no go. I've got an error in dmesg, the same as Vikas'. Vikas: You know, the '...' in your error there actually only substitutes for one zero. ;) There are 7 zeros in the code. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone binary (to test bluetooth headset issues)
I hate for you to waste precious GUI space on a problem that only one person seems to have. If I were you, I would make it a conffile option or something unobtrusive... I'm pretty certain it's a Bluez bug. It happens on my laptop too. I should probably submit a bug report... :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone binary (to test bluetooth headset issues)
Hi. Unfortunately, if you're blocking duplicate keypresses within anything less than a second, it's pointless. No-one else seems to have this problem, and for me, they are typically .6-.8 seconds apart. Maybe you could make it some kind of 'hidden feature' since you don't want it eating up GUI space, but at least for me, it's a critically necessary feature. Maybe a cmdline option or conf-file option? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Well, there's the album art for images, and you could name the track after the latin name for now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: Hi, I'm uploading a binary for SHR-Unstable that will print out key press scan codes if run from a terminal. Just replace the intone binary in c_c, where about have you been uploading i? Petr Here it is: http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3289594/intone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
It works! Keycodes: Play/Pause: 172 Next: 171 Prev: 173 Note: for some reason, my headset likes to send play/pause twice (I assume it's my headset, could be bluez, IDK) which confuses things. I'd appreciate it if you would ignore a second play/pause press if it comes less than a second after the first one, but that's purely up to you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Exact output: key pressed! keyname-Keycode-172, Keycode-172 key pressed! keyname-Keycode-173, Keycode-173 key pressed! keyname-Keycode-171, Keycode-171 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Everything works as expected, but my play/pause still likes to send two events most of the time, and therefore the music pauses for a moment then resumes. This means Intone is doing everything correctly, but it makes it somewhat pointless for me. :P The only thing you need to do is `modprobe uinput`, after that the AVRCP commands will work. Intone can do that when you turn on bluetooth. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Check time when you get an event, and if it's within 1 second of the last event you received, and it's the same event, then ignore it. That's how I'd do it anyways. First problem: I tend to lock the screen when intone is running so nothing presses the screen and messes things up, but AVRCP events don't come through a locked screen. Does anyone know a way to catch those keypresses? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Check time when you get an event, and if it's within 1 second of the last event you received, and it's the same event, then ignore it. That's how I'd do it anyways. Thanks. Can you confirm this binary works for the play/pause button too? Thanks It works perfectly! Thank you very much! :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
The second pause is getting through fairly often now, but I think it's catching some of them. I can't tell when it sends one and when it doesn't. I haven't seen any output stating anything about a time difference. Bug: Music randomly stops playing every now and then, and I find an error message up on Intone saying it couldn't stream to bluetooth. It then resets config back to speaker and I have to set it to bluetooth again. My guess is this is caused by a blip in the signal, which is a part of bluetooth life, and usually mplayer handles it by resetting the pipe. I think Intone can safely ignore this. I could be entirely wrong though. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Open Hardware company
I'm interested in programming *on* something like that, and my girlfriend is interested in learning programming when she see what I'm doing on my Freerunner ;) Keyboard seems to be ok for programming, so i'm generally interested. girlfriend++ Does she have a sister? :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
An offtopic question: Do you have a recommendation for a good bluetooth headset? (for music listening) Better then using the headjack on the phone. Thank you in advance, Laszlo I've got a Plantronics Voyager 855, it works pretty well. It can be stereo for music, or mono for calls. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [openwrt] cannot install (some) packages from depository...
That tends to happen when you try to specify a package for installation (actually give it an IPK or OPK) that is in the repos. It checks the checksum of the package you provided against the one in the repo, and if they aren't the same, it freaks out. I wish there was a way to tell it to install it anyways, but there's not AFAIK. You just have to install from the repo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Quick bluetooth note: you need to turn the bluetooth chip on before you can use it (as you know). Please request it from FSO before trying to use it, as that makes life easier for the users (we don't have to do it manually) and it saves battery life (only have it on when you're using it). I'll be more than happy to beta test AVRCP functionality (which is bluetooth control buttons). Just give me a binary, as I can't compile for FR, and I'll tell you what I get. :) Finally, AWESEOME UI updates. Everything works perfectly, and I really like the new way to control repeat/random. It's excellent to have a nice control for mplayer in the GUI too (saves me a lot of time starting the music). Just one quick request: remember what I set mplayer's nice to between sessions. Lots of great updates. :D Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
That should be working. Can you confirm? Oh, it probably is. I had to kill -9 intone to make it exit when I tried it, I didn't think about that... :P Why did I have to kill -9 it? Because it tried to use bluetooth without having the chip on. And yes, if you're using bluetooth, you should request the resource from FSO. Otherwise, it's luck of the draw whether it'll actually be usable or not, and if it's not, bad stuff happens. Just tell FSO when you need it and then when you're done (which would probably be on exit) and it'll take care of everything. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)
Well, FWIW, here are the release events for my AVRCP buttons as told by xev: KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x101, root 0x1a7, subw 0x0, time 820765331, (-671,-139), root:(428,480), state 0x0, keycode 162 (keysym 0x1008ff14, XF86AudioPlay), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x101, root 0x1a7, subw 0x0, time 820844540, (111,-141), root:(1210,478), state 0x0, keycode 153 (keysym 0x1008ff17, XF86AudioNext), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x101, root 0x1a7, subw 0x0, time 820870269, (95,-73), root:(1194,546), state 0x0, keycode 144 (keysym 0x1008ff16, XF86AudioPrev), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False Hopefully the details are the same on the FR, but I can't be sure as I can't actually see what keycodes are received on the FR. I just know for certain that it's getting some. I'll be happy to give any other info you need. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Poor performance playing OGG (was: Anti-Whining...)
OK, so I figured I'd make a new thread for this, since I'm whining and therefore this doesn't belong in Anti-Whining. :P I have SHR-U and I still have the occasional cut/skip when listening to OGG. I use mplayer with the integer-only tremor decoder, and CPU usage hovers down around 30-50%. Yet it likes to cut randomly even when mplayer has a nice of -19 and no other desktop apps (non-daemons) are running. Any idea what could be causing this? -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Note of interest to those looking for a bluetooth headset: you can get mine from Newegg for a really good deal (for that headset, at least) and it's known to work. URL is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875978056 For those who don't like clicking links, it's $34 with free shipping. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments
Well, my biggest success so far with the FR is bluetooth. I now use my FR as a portable media player, and can use GSM with bluetooth. That said, if anyone knows a way to make it not cut and skip when playing OGG with mplayer niced at -19, I'd love to hear it. It's not too bad right now, but there's usually at least one cut per minute. :( A few weeks ago there was an alien armada threatening to annihilate all life on the planet. So I grabbed my trusty Freerunner, and Will Smith flew me up to their mothership in orbit where I hacked out a little python script to disable their defense shields. I uploaded the script to their mainframe, and we managed to fly clear of the ship just before it exploded, and thus we saved all of humanity with a Freerunner. So YOU'RE the moron who destroyed my ship?!?! How am I supposed to fire huge lasers from space at Apple now?! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Intone bluetooth commands
Can somebody point to the highest quality headset available on the market designed for music listening I can't say it's the highest quality, but it's good enough for me. I use the Plantronics Voyager 855, which is a typical bluetooth earpiece with an attachable ear loop with a wire to another bud for your other ear. It's mono or stereo, depending on whether the other bud is connected or not. I have it working for both A2DP music and GSM calls (thanks to Paul Fertser). c_c: I'll try to get you scancodes as soon as I can, but they will be from my laptop, so I'm not sure if they will work on the FR or not. The FR doesn't have xev, so if you can point me to a working scancode reporting app, I'll check it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Intone Playlist Failure
Excellent. Thanks for all your hard work, c_c. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Intone bluetooth commands
OK, well I believe my headset sends XF86AudioPlay, XF86AudioPause, XF86AudioNext and XF86AudioPrev keycodes are: 162 0x1008ff14 (XF86AudioPlay) 0x1008ff31 (XF86AudioPause) 0x1008ff14 (XF86AudioPlay) 0x1008ff31 (XF86AudioPause) 0x1008ff14 (XF86AudioPlay) 0x1008ff31 (XF86AudioPause) 153 0x1008ff17 (XF86AudioNext) 0x (NoSymbol) 0x1008ff17 (XF86AudioNext) 0x (NoSymbol) 0x1008ff17 (XF86AudioNext) 144 0x1008ff16 (XF86AudioPrev) 0x (NoSymbol) 0x1008ff16 (XF86AudioPrev) 0x (NoSymbol) 0x1008ff16 (XF86AudioPrev) It looks like play and pause share a code, which makes sense. These keycodes come from my desktop and I don't know if they are the same on the FR. However, the FR definitely recognizes something because when I pressed a button on my headset, the display turned on. Is there a way to make the FR print what keys are pressed when you press them? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Intone bluetooth commands
Just confirmed from the manual, my headset does play/pause (same button) next and previous tracks. It also has volume control, but that's internal to the headset; and answer/reject incoming call, which is not Intone's job to handle. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Reboot with the headset off? If that works, then why couldn't you just restart a few services (ophonekitd, frameworkd and the like)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
I could if I knew what services need to be restarted exactly, I had to do a reboot then anyways so that would have been easier than figuring out which services to restart and why mokonnect wouldn't stop even with a killall mokonnect. Did you try killall -9 mokonnect? If that won't kill it, nothing will. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Yup, I figured it was something like that. Now the question goes, if I have a no-bluetooth profile, and I set it then restart the services, will that do the trick, or do I have to edit the default profile every time? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] X does not start at boot
After booting in SHR-Unstable, X does not start. That's a big problem, as unless I have a Linux computer and my USB cable handy, this makes my phone a brick. Please help! -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Just noticed this in my frameworkd.log when making a call trying to use headset: 2009.07.14 08:45:57.857 oeventsd.action ERRORmethod SetBTHeadsetPlaying emited error: org.bluez.Error.NotAvailable: Operation not Available Could that be the cause? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] X does not start at boot
Not sure, how do I check? I downloaded it from the servers two days ago. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] X does not start at boot
No thanks, I've had enough fun reconfiguring everything as it is. :\ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] X does not start at boot
Workarounds are good. :) Thanks for the tip! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] X does not start at boot
I'm not sure if X ever started. I think I always had to SSH in and turn it on manually. Which logfile would I check? The only one I ever look at on the FR is frameworkd.log, but it wouldn't have anything to say about this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Confirming again, I have my headset working perfectly after uncommenting the line Paul mentioned and rebooting. :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[All] Intone bluetooth commands
Hi. This is a feature request for Intone to listen to bluetooth button commands (play, pause, next, prev, etc). The phone itself will handle these for the most part, Intone needs only listen for keypresses like XF86Play etc. It should be quite simple, but then, my GUI programming is next to nothing, so I wouldn't know. NOTE: For anyone who wants their headset to send these events, you need to modprobe uinput. I assume they work on the FR, but I don't know how to test them. They work on my laptop. -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SD-card faulty?
Well, I take it back then. I guess I just got lucky. :D I got one of these, and it's only corrupted once in many months of use: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Well here's an end user who's interested. :\ Currently i have no other ideas except disabling eSCO support in kernel and bluez (probably it's even a bug in the firmware of the chip we use), but i haven't tried it yet as i don't have access to that non-working headset currently. OK, how do I do that? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Intone Playlist Failure
Custom playlists only. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Well, as yet another Jerry, I don't need a GUI for bluetooth. I'm perfectly happy to edit configs and run commands all day long, so long as at the end of the day (or week... Month... Year) it works. Only once we've gotten that far do I see a point in creating a GUI. So if there are any Toms out there who have an idea of what to do, let's hear it. Unfortunately, I can't compile for the FR, so recompiling kernels is out for me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Paul said that the connection for bluetooth runs straight from one chip to the other, without really involving ALSA at all. Is there a way we can make it involve ALSA, since bluetooth works perfectly through ALSA? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
BTW, have you tried disabling esco or not? Nope, I'm afraid I still don't know how. Sorry, but I'm a dumb Jerry. Give me a command to run or a conffile to edit, or a page of instructions to follow and I'll do it. Short of that, IDK anything. :( I understand you when you say bluetooth support is there, but that doesn't give us end-users much when the support is present and the functionality is not. Until people actually get headsets working, they're not going to stop complaining that their headsets aren't working. So let's figure out why they aren't working even though the support is present, and get all these annoying cries for help shut up for once and for all. :) -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
OK, I've beaten this horse to death several times now, but I'm ready to start beating afresh. I want to use my bluetooth headset for GSM calls. I have already paired my headset with my phone, and I can listen to music on it without a hitch. So why the heck can't I use it for calls yet? I'm getting tired of listening to music, then a call comes in and the music pauses for the call and I have to pull out my headset so I can put the phone to my ear. That's just stupid. :( So! Has anyone actually managed this? If so, how?! If not, let's solve it for once and for all! After pairing, then what? -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Intone Playlist Failure
Hi. I'm having Intone trouble, once again, but hopefully this will be quick and easy to solve. Intone playlists don't work. I can create and delete them, just fine, but I can't play them. When I try to select them, it prints out to terminal SQL error: no such table: playlist name here and when I press done, Intone segfaults. -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Well, I did the usual setting of variables in the profile, but nothing of interest appears in frameworkd.log anyways. Surely there are some dbus calls I can make to see the state of this thing, aren't there?? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Perhaps it is and frameworkd isn't logging it. What log level does it appear as for you? Also, which wiki page are you referring to? I'm looking at Manually Using Bluetooth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Well, screw it. I'm reflashing and hoping for the best. :P Wish me luck. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.
Progress!!! After reflashing, it now loads the gsmbluetooth statefile. I hear nothing over my headset, but that's progress! Am I supposed to have a defined bluetooth device in asound.conf or something? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Record call.
I would think it would be easy, but given how many people have tried to do it and ended up with rather unsatisfactory solutions (sorry Dictator folks, but manipulating the statefiles just doesn't feel like a clean solution...), I think it is not as easy as it sounds. But then, what in the Freerunner is?... Apparently, no-one has figured out how to reliably do bluetooth calls yet either. :( Also beware, if you're in the US, it's illegal to record calls without warning the other party. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] ophonekitd not starting by default
whineBut reflashing is a ton of work. You have to completely re-cusotmize the system!! :'(/whine ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] ophonekitd not starting by default
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Did you updated framework configs? Latest ousaged - fsousaged migration needs changes in config, otherwise it won't work. Well, here's the pertinent section from my frameworkd.conf: [ousaged] disable = 1 [fsousage] [fsousage.controller] (EOF) -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] ophonekitd not starting by default
i have actually found the issue with my shr-u not working - the uSD card got corrupted somehow, fsck fixed it all and now everything is alright again... symptoms - dbus not working, no gsm. hope this helps to someone Now THAT is weird, because mine was corrupted about a week ago, and it was causing Intone to screw up... :\ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] ophonekitd not starting by default
i upgraded to the latest shr-unstable earlier, and it appears ophonekitd is not being started at boot. when the fr starts, there is no service connection, and an error message when i run shr-settings. hitting 'start' sets everything right I'll second that, it's doing it to me too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
Can someone confirm whether the SHR version uses tremor too? Confirm: it works, but only when you explicitly specify ac=vorbis. This can be done either on the command line (add -ac=vorbis flag) or in the config file (echo ac=vorbis ~/.mplayer/config). When I did this, OGG decoding dropped to about 30-50% CPU usage, as opposed to 70-100%. For some reason, I still have to renice mplayer to -19 or it keeps cutting and skipping, even when the phone is otherwise idle. :( I've tried increasing the cache too, but no go. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-unstable] stopwatch?
Anyone interested in porting that to Elementary from Qt? Not that I don't like Qt, but I prefer to keep my apps in Elm because they play nicer with my theme. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
Have you tried the -low- one? It's supposed to use less CPU... Yeah, that's the one I installed to get everything working again. (-tremor-low) -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
Resurrecting because it's still not fixed... :( The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Ugh, this isn't over yet. It's still locking up as soon as it starts playing a song. Plays to the end of the track (because mplayer is a separate process) but doesn't continue after that. Intone has to be killed, but I noticed that it's eating up 10-20% CPU as long as it's running, causing my music to cut and skip. -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
Nope. :\ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
Sorry, but where do I get the new IPK? The one on Opkg.org looks the same. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
Had to rebuild the database again. Still no go. Locks up as soon as it starts playing. Output follows. songs dir /home/root/Music Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: volume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: 0 - 255 Front Left: 204 [80%] [-25.50dB] Front Right: 204 [80%] [-25.50dB] Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
I installed that mplayer and it WORKS!!! Halelujah!! :D Just one quick bug report: If I select a different song before pressing play, I think it should play that one. But instead it plays the first one in the playlist. Just a small thing, nothing to worry about too much. After all, the Freerunner's best media player is working again!! :D Keep up the awesome work, c_c. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hello world. Is the Neo Freerunner dead?
Will it talk to the ATT's US network? Sure, sure. I got my FR, and called up ATT saying I wanted a GoPhone plan and a SIM card, but I already had a phone. They didn't give me any trouble at all. What do I tell them? You don't have to tell them anything, but I told them I had a Freerunner. The agent didn't know what it was, so I explained. They haven't contacted me since saying You can't use THAT phone!! so I think it's OK. NOTE: you will want to know your IMEI (it's printed on phone, under the battery) before calling, since I had some trouble getting it when they asked. The usual *#06# USSD code does not work. The agent told me to dial that, and tell him the number. When it didn't work, I had to ask what that number was called (I didn't know at the time) and quickly ask in the chat room how to find it. Lucky someone was there who knew! LOL ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
