Re: Staus update GTA04A5
On Wed 13 May 2015 09:45:51 NeilBrown wrote: I've been trying to think what components are left that I haven't examined as closely as I can and one that has occurred to me recently is the memory. I presume this needs to be put in a low power mode and I assumed that it was. Maybe it is ... I should try to find the code that does that. Yes, good point. Compare N900's PM kernel which probably does the right thing to RAM (and thus definitely _has_ the code for suspend and zeroclock), see: Suspend (echo mem /sys/power/state), wifi and GSM off. 2 mA T Idle, no SIM, wlan off 7 mA@4.1 V T http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption /j -- () ascii ribbon campaign /\ against html e-mail - against proprietary attachments http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil_still.shtml http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii/ (German) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Staus update GTA04A5
Hi, Am 12.05.2015 um 11:18 schrieb NeilBrown ne...@suse.de: On Mon, 11 May 2015 09:37:07 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi all, you may wonder what is going on with this project. Did it turn into a black hole? Or did someone do a “rm -rf /“ :) No, nothing of that. Therefore, I think we owe you some short status update on this project. There hasn’t been much to report in the last months, but now we have several news within some days. 1. I have checked again and we can still get the GTM601W, but the distributor says the risk is high that OPTION declares EOL any time and in that case we would have to make an order of at least 3000 units so that they restart production just for us. This means we must secure these modules for us now, since there is no replacement that easily fits into the space constraints of the GTA04 (resp. GTA01/02 board). Cinterion modules would be nice since they are planned for the Pyra and the Neo900, but they are approx. 10% too big. 2. we see some difficulties in getting the W2SG0084 GPS module, but that is some paperwork the distributor has to do with Wi2Wi. Nevertheless, this is also a risk candidate for EOL because only one distributor shows stock. 3. There are also good news: we participate in the risk buy of Samsung 1GB RAM+512MB NAND chips (as planned for the Neo900). So the GAT04A5 gets twice as much RAM :) This chip has already been tested by reworking a BeagleBoard XM and modifying the boot loader (kernel didn’t find the NAND yet, but U-Boot did. This is a problem that will jointly be fixed with the Neo900 software team). 4. Production: we still are a little away from the quorum of 100 preorders (at the moment of this writing we have estimated approx. half = 45 units). So it is still not possible to make final decisions about production dates and final pricing. So we need to get a little more support for our project. If you have ideas, please let us know or start activities. Many small activities are as good as a big one! And we know that this is a niche product that requires an existing GTA01/02 device. So it is not possible to “attract the masses”. We must find and convince the previous GTA01/02 owners whose devices are collecting dust. There had been produced ca. 15k such devices so that we just need another 1/3% or in other words only 1 out of 300 GTA02 owners needs to decide for a GTA04A5. 5. Regarding the risk buy of the GTM601W, RAM chips and W2SG0084, I plan to take the budget (~5100 EUR) that we already have collected. This will transform the vouchers into ownership of components. So it has the consequence that we can’t refund in money (cash, bank transfer) any more, but only in unused hardware components (i.e. 100 EUR ~ 1*GTM601+1*RAM+1*GPS)… For future preorder vouchers you would also buy such a component set (which we would keep in safe warehouse of course) until we can really build the whole devices. So quite some news and I would be happy if we can fill up the missing preorders [1] sooner than later so that we can start production. Please think about securing your set of components for the last production batch of the most open smartphone platform that we already have. I have been thinking about ordering a GTA04A5, but there is one barrier. I need to be confident that it can draw less than 10mA in standby. Currently the best we have seen with GTA04A3,4 is about 20mA (and 40mA on Linux 4.0, but that must be a software issue). This is probably a software issue, but until it's actually been demonstrated that the hardware can sit in standby using under 10mA, I cannot be certain. There will be = 2 changes that affect the standby current: a) the 26 MHz oscillator is not always on any more b) IrDA receiver and RS232 level shifters can be turned on/off separately (on A3/A4 either one is always on) c) the HMC5883l and ITG3200 will likely be replaced by newer Bosch sensors If you know something else which could affect standby current, please let me know. Ah, a new unknown is the new SAMSUNG RAM/NAND chip. There we have no data sheet but know that it is used in the N9. It’s all very frustrating... At least for me it is fun and a playground to learn :) BR, Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Staus update GTA04A5
On Mon, 11 May 2015 09:37:07 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi all, you may wonder what is going on with this project. Did it turn into a black hole? Or did someone do a “rm -rf /“ :) No, nothing of that. Therefore, I think we owe you some short status update on this project. There hasn’t been much to report in the last months, but now we have several news within some days. 1. I have checked again and we can still get the GTM601W, but the distributor says the risk is high that OPTION declares EOL any time and in that case we would have to make an order of at least 3000 units so that they restart production just for us. This means we must secure these modules for us now, since there is no replacement that easily fits into the space constraints of the GTA04 (resp. GTA01/02 board). Cinterion modules would be nice since they are planned for the Pyra and the Neo900, but they are approx. 10% too big. 2. we see some difficulties in getting the W2SG0084 GPS module, but that is some paperwork the distributor has to do with Wi2Wi. Nevertheless, this is also a risk candidate for EOL because only one distributor shows stock. 3. There are also good news: we participate in the risk buy of Samsung 1GB RAM+512MB NAND chips (as planned for the Neo900). So the GAT04A5 gets twice as much RAM :) This chip has already been tested by reworking a BeagleBoard XM and modifying the boot loader (kernel didn’t find the NAND yet, but U-Boot did. This is a problem that will jointly be fixed with the Neo900 software team). 4. Production: we still are a little away from the quorum of 100 preorders (at the moment of this writing we have estimated approx. half = 45 units). So it is still not possible to make final decisions about production dates and final pricing. So we need to get a little more support for our project. If you have ideas, please let us know or start activities. Many small activities are as good as a big one! And we know that this is a niche product that requires an existing GTA01/02 device. So it is not possible to “attract the masses”. We must find and convince the previous GTA01/02 owners whose devices are collecting dust. There had been produced ca. 15k such devices so that we just need another 1/3% or in other words only 1 out of 300 GTA02 owners needs to decide for a GTA04A5. 5. Regarding the risk buy of the GTM601W, RAM chips and W2SG0084, I plan to take the budget (~5100 EUR) that we already have collected. This will transform the vouchers into ownership of components. So it has the consequence that we can’t refund in money (cash, bank transfer) any more, but only in unused hardware components (i.e. 100 EUR ~ 1*GTM601+1*RAM+1*GPS)… For future preorder vouchers you would also buy such a component set (which we would keep in safe warehouse of course) until we can really build the whole devices. So quite some news and I would be happy if we can fill up the missing preorders [1] sooner than later so that we can start production. Please think about securing your set of components for the last production batch of the most open smartphone platform that we already have. I have been thinking about ordering a GTA04A5, but there is one barrier. I need to be confident that it can draw less than 10mA in standby. Currently the best we have seen with GTA04A3,4 is about 20mA (and 40mA on Linux 4.0, but that must be a software issue). This is probably a software issue, but until it's actually been demonstrated that the hardware can sit in standby using under 10mA, I cannot be certain. It's all very frustrating... NeilBrown pgpn6StQqhjj9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Staus update GTA04A5
On Tue, 12 May 2015 11:25:27 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi, Am 12.05.2015 um 11:18 schrieb NeilBrown ne...@suse.de: On Mon, 11 May 2015 09:37:07 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi all, you may wonder what is going on with this project. Did it turn into a black hole? Or did someone do a “rm -rf /“ :) No, nothing of that. Therefore, I think we owe you some short status update on this project. There hasn’t been much to report in the last months, but now we have several news within some days. 1. I have checked again and we can still get the GTM601W, but the distributor says the risk is high that OPTION declares EOL any time and in that case we would have to make an order of at least 3000 units so that they restart production just for us. This means we must secure these modules for us now, since there is no replacement that easily fits into the space constraints of the GTA04 (resp. GTA01/02 board). Cinterion modules would be nice since they are planned for the Pyra and the Neo900, but they are approx. 10% too big. 2. we see some difficulties in getting the W2SG0084 GPS module, but that is some paperwork the distributor has to do with Wi2Wi. Nevertheless, this is also a risk candidate for EOL because only one distributor shows stock. 3. There are also good news: we participate in the risk buy of Samsung 1GB RAM+512MB NAND chips (as planned for the Neo900). So the GAT04A5 gets twice as much RAM :) This chip has already been tested by reworking a BeagleBoard XM and modifying the boot loader (kernel didn’t find the NAND yet, but U-Boot did. This is a problem that will jointly be fixed with the Neo900 software team). 4. Production: we still are a little away from the quorum of 100 preorders (at the moment of this writing we have estimated approx. half = 45 units). So it is still not possible to make final decisions about production dates and final pricing. So we need to get a little more support for our project. If you have ideas, please let us know or start activities. Many small activities are as good as a big one! And we know that this is a niche product that requires an existing GTA01/02 device. So it is not possible to “attract the masses”. We must find and convince the previous GTA01/02 owners whose devices are collecting dust. There had been produced ca. 15k such devices so that we just need another 1/3% or in other words only 1 out of 300 GTA02 owners needs to decide for a GTA04A5. 5. Regarding the risk buy of the GTM601W, RAM chips and W2SG0084, I plan to take the budget (~5100 EUR) that we already have collected. This will transform the vouchers into ownership of components. So it has the consequence that we can’t refund in money (cash, bank transfer) any more, but only in unused hardware components (i.e. 100 EUR ~ 1*GTM601+1*RAM+1*GPS)… For future preorder vouchers you would also buy such a component set (which we would keep in safe warehouse of course) until we can really build the whole devices. So quite some news and I would be happy if we can fill up the missing preorders [1] sooner than later so that we can start production. Please think about securing your set of components for the last production batch of the most open smartphone platform that we already have. I have been thinking about ordering a GTA04A5, but there is one barrier. I need to be confident that it can draw less than 10mA in standby. Currently the best we have seen with GTA04A3,4 is about 20mA (and 40mA on Linux 4.0, but that must be a software issue). This is probably a software issue, but until it's actually been demonstrated that the hardware can sit in standby using under 10mA, I cannot be certain. There will be = 2 changes that affect the standby current: a) the 26 MHz oscillator is not always on any more b) IrDA receiver and RS232 level shifters can be turned on/off separately (on A3/A4 either one is always on) c) the HMC5883l and ITG3200 will likely be replaced by newer Bosch sensors I don't think the sensors use enough to be significant, particular once the ITG has been placed in low-power mode. I've played a bit with the IrDA and RS232, seeing what the power usage is with one of the other, and with nothing plugged into the serial port I can detect no difference whichever is switched on. This leads me to suspect that neither use very much when idle. When something is plugged in, I assume the charge-pump has to keep running to supply +/- 5V and this wastes power. So having separate switches is useful but I don't think it will make the difference. The oscillator might be relevant. I don't think that it by itself uses very
Re: server update
Very well summarized, thanks Timo! Cheers, :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
[cut] What we have in mind will definitely be an entity that most people will have heard of, not some obscure small group... Like ours? ;) -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
Hi Radek, On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:54:32PM +, Radek Polak wrote: On Tuesday 22 May 2012 15:44:23 Harald Welte wrote: We're right now in some discussions and unless we don't have active confirmation from the proposed new owner of trademark + domain, we don't want to throw around any names. I dont get it. Why these secrets? Of course it's not problem to wait a few weeks - there was silence from openmoko company for years. But why not be open? I think this community deserves it... The point is one of trust. If I privately start a conversation with somebody else, or another organization, then I would normally not publicize the content of such private e-mail exchange without getting some feedback from them first. Also, the fact when a particular event happens, and how it is publicized is always considere important in the corporate world. Now if you like that or not, Openmoko Inc. was (and still is) a commercial entity. And it's up to its management to decide when and to whom to publish something. Let's say, e.g. if we had mentioned that there were talks between Openmoko Inc. and organization XYZ about transferring the trademark, and then a couple of days later XYZ declines such a request, it would look quite a bit unprofessional - to the fact that XYZ even might state why did they talk about such a transfer without getting our approval first? Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
Hi Patryk, On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 09:58:51AM +0200, Patryk Benderz wrote: What we have in mind will definitely be an entity that most people will have heard of, not some obscure small group... Like ours? ;) I was not referring to anyone specifically. The fact is that the current owners of the name rights will want to know for sure that it is used non-profit. After all, we don't want to see some other company selling Openmoko dishwashers next year, or to create yet-another-reinvented Android home screen and sell that as Openmoko. Once you transferred the trademark, the new recipient can do whatever he pleasee with it, so there should be some trust in an established/recognized/well-known entity that this won't happen. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
[cut] Like ours? ;) I was not referring to anyone specifically. The fact is that the [cut] Harald, I used a smiley with a blink, it was just a joke... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
2012/5/23 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org: Also, the fact when a particular event happens, and how it is publicized is always considere important in the corporate world. Now if you like that or not, Openmoko Inc. was (and still is) a commercial entity. And it's up to its management to decide when and to whom to publish something. As a sidenote, I'd say that's something FLOSS communities should actually learn from commercial entities. Transparency is one thing, but preparing something well and getting it publicized in the right way is essential for any sort of success, community or otherwise. Way too often communities work in the way that kind of says well there's me and a couple of other guys/gals who know how the thing really goes, others can always ask on IRC. Meanwhile, there is always the larger public perception that matters to success and eg. attracting new people that can be only affected by proper marketing and other PR. This naturally is very much seen in Openmoko - the public perception is very twisted and confused, and has always been since at least Spring 2009 when Om Inc stopped with the handset business. Even before that community vs. company picture wasn't clear and we all struggled to understand what Openmoko actually is, and what the community itself should take responsibility of or manage. The end result together with various other problems like with the hardware was a uniquely spread out and non-organized community. And so it is still today, with the exception that everyone has needed to find their places elsewhere but some still have stayed and understood the value of this gathering of people. To re-cap for historians again: 1) Openmoko Inc - the company - stopped phone business in May 2009 2) Openmoko - the Linux distribution - stopped likewise circa 2009. Several community distributions supporting Openmoko hardware and other phones still active and developed. SHR, Debian, QtMoko, Android4FreeRunner. 3) Openmoko - the hardware - GTA02 'Neo FreeRunner' still available from selected stores for tinkerers, non-Openmoko Inc GTA04 upgrade now available, before that there was work on-going on gta02-core, various hardware tools and knowledge on free hw creation have improved 4) Openmoko - the project and community - the 'Free The Phone' people are still here and even more there: in distributions, in FreeSmartphone.Org/oFono, freeing up nonfree-by-default-phones (Mer/Replicant/etc), helping GTA04 effort and other new hardware projects. Wiki is still relevant and even updated in many parts, as are mailing lists, while most other services like software development have moved elsewhere like the single software projects or distributions One of the most important things that happened when Om Inc still was in the phone business was the birth of the (idea of) Om2009 distribution and the freesmartphone.org middleware. At that point the idea that Openmoko software would be needed kind of shifted away, the software side of the problem called 'phone' externalized to its own software project. Later on also oFono materialized as an alternative for the subset of the same problem space. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
Hi Sean, Am 22.05.2012 um 16:00 schrieb Sean Moss-Pultz: Dear Community (Here comes an overdue update...) Harald, with help from Roh and Gismo, has been updating / consolidating our server infrastructure and will soon migrate to modern hardware. I'm working on transferring the openmoko.org trademark and domain ownership to a recognized non-profit entity in the Free Software ++ community. This is an important step that we've wanted to do for some time. More details will follow. I hope there will be some way that *we* (the community) can influence/decide about our faith, i.e. by choosing or voting for the new entity finally owning the trademark. What I would not like to see is that it is going to be some entity I have never heard of and therefore have neither trust in nor an idea where they will move us to. But you may already plan to ask us for proposals. In the meantime, we're actively looking for a volunteer with strong sysadmin skills to continue to maintain the infrastructure after these changes. The basic setup will consist of debian systems with apache, lighttpd, mediawiki, trac, svn, git, exim, mailman, cyrus-imapd, openvz, vsftpd and munin. If anyone is interested, please contact myself and Harald off-list. Finally, I want to give a personal thanks to Roh and Gismo for all their work keeping our infrastructure alive. me too! Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
Hi Nikolaus and others, On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 04:30:56PM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: community. This is an important step that we've wanted to do for some time. More details will follow. I hope there will be some way that *we* (the community) can influence/decide about our faith, i.e. by choosing or voting for the new entity finally owning the trademark. I'm not sure if that's really worth the effort and delay associated with it. What I would not like to see is that it is going to be some entity I have never heard of and therefore have neither trust in nor an idea where they will move us to. We're right now in some discussions and unless we don't have active confirmation from the proposed new owner of trademark + domain, we don't want to throw around any names. By the end of this week, thing should be a bit more clear. What we have in mind will definitely be an entity that most people will have heard of, not some obscure small group... Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 15:44:23 Harald Welte wrote: We're right now in some discussions and unless we don't have active confirmation from the proposed new owner of trademark + domain, we don't want to throw around any names. I dont get it. Why these secrets? Of course it's not problem to wait a few weeks - there was silence from openmoko company for years. But why not be open? I think this community deserves it... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:44:23 +0200 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: What we have in mind will definitely be an entity that most people will have heard of, not some obscure small group... From the top of my hat I'd hazzard FSFE or Software Freedom Conservancy... I wonder what the end result will be :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org writes: On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:44:23 +0200 Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: What we have in mind will definitely be an entity that most people will have heard of, not some obscure small group... From the top of my hat I'd hazzard FSFE or Software Freedom Conservancy... I wonder what the end result will be :) Or maybe it'll be the Santa Cruz Operation :p -- Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: server update
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: community. This is an important step that we've wanted to do for some time. More details will follow. I hope there will be some way that *we* (the community) can influence/decide about our faith, i.e. by choosing or voting for the new entity finally owning the trademark. What I would not like to see is that it is going to be some entity I have never heard of and therefore have neither trust in nor an idea where they will move us to. Dr Nikolaus Thanks for your feedback. It will be a recognized non-profit entity in the Free Software world. Our main concern is the long term commitment of the non-profit. We are pursuing a number of options in parallel. But I won't name any organizations publicly until we get commitments. That would put unfair pressure / expectations on both sides. Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Update v31 to v35
Thank you, Meurisse. I'm going to try. Greetings. On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:53:09 +0200 Vincent Meurisse openmoko-commun...@meurisse.org wrote: Hello, I am trying to upgrade 31 to 35 following the instructions: http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Update#Updates but does nothing. You first need to install the packages: edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and add the line deb http://qtmoko.meurisse.org / then run: #apt-get update #apt-get install qtmoko Remember: do not try to update to v35 if you installed QtMoko on NAND. Regards -- Vincent Meurisse ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Update v31 to v35
Hello, I am trying to upgrade 31 to 35 following the instructions: http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Update#Updates but does nothing. You first need to install the packages: edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and add the line deb http://qtmoko.meurisse.org / then run: #apt-get update #apt-get install qtmoko Remember: do not try to update to v35 if you installed QtMoko on NAND. Regards -- Vincent Meurisse ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [wikireader] update experience
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010, Jeff wrote: There are 2 different wikireaders available. One with a 2gb card and one with a 4+gb card. As I understand it, the 2gb only supports a single language, and the English version is a special one that will fit in 2gb. The 4+gb version will do multiple languages and other things. Since I am from the USA, I am a pin head and only speak one language ;) . I therefore have the full English wiki, along with wikiquotes and the wiktionary and no other languages. The 4gb version supposedly can use micro-sd up 16gb. Also, to make sure you are running the correct version of software, there should be a globe icon on the main screen. You use that to select other languages/wikis. That's exactly what I'm missing. My first WR has the globe icon, the second doesn't. But then, where can I download those two different images? Hope that helped. Jeff Yes, a bit, thanks! Do you have other pages of information than the github? Alex. On 12/25/2010 3:53 PM, Alexander Lehner wrote: Sorry for posting this here, I don't know if there's already a list for the WR. I've got a WikiReader now for some month and my 10y daughter surprisingly likes it, so I finally decided to get one for my parents as christmas gift. The one I've got came with english, german and netherlands wikis, so I assumed the new one would do so, too. But it didn't, so I had to update the german language package. The Update software so far is really easy and it recognizes the SD card without choosing it from any USB device. It told my to update the base image and the german language, it took about 3-4 hours to download the 1.7GB. After starting the WR again, even the english language was gone, only an empty search window showed up. So I looked at the content of the SD card and still the timestamps of the base files seemed wery old to me. The german language package seemed ok. Then I downloaded the base image from the .torrent file, which seemed to me the only up-to-date source I could get. It was quite a pain, because the only torrent client I had on my parents computer was the torrent downloader from Opera, which is quite slow compared to other torrent clients. After putting the new base files to the SD card, at least the german language was there. I don't know what happened with the english. According to the docs there seems to be a single-language installation (all lang files at root directory) and a multi-lang version with each language in a subfolder. Obviously the do not co-exist. And the well-known problems: Touchscreen is hard to handle (but learnable), backlight for people of higher age is really missing because of their eyes. At least the contrast setup (which seems only to appear if you boot the device without sd card) could/should be part of the usual sdcard-'OS'. (for example pressing the power button short instead of holding it for power-down?). So far I'm now happy with it, I like the device, if my parents do - we will see ;) Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [wikireader] update experience
There are 2 different wikireaders available. One with a 2gb card and one with a 4+gb card. As I understand it, the 2gb only supports a single language, and the English version is a special one that will fit in 2gb. The 4+gb version will do multiple languages and other things. Since I am from the USA, I am a pin head and only speak one language ;) . I therefore have the full English wiki, along with wikiquotes and the wiktionary and no other languages. The 4gb version supposedly can use micro-sd up 16gb. Also, to make sure you are running the correct version of software, there should be a globe icon on the main screen. You use that to select other languages/wikis. Hope that helped. Jeff On 12/25/2010 3:53 PM, Alexander Lehner wrote: Sorry for posting this here, I don't know if there's already a list for the WR. I've got a WikiReader now for some month and my 10y daughter surprisingly likes it, so I finally decided to get one for my parents as christmas gift. The one I've got came with english, german and netherlands wikis, so I assumed the new one would do so, too. But it didn't, so I had to update the german language package. The Update software so far is really easy and it recognizes the SD card without choosing it from any USB device. It told my to update the base image and the german language, it took about 3-4 hours to download the 1.7GB. After starting the WR again, even the english language was gone, only an empty search window showed up. So I looked at the content of the SD card and still the timestamps of the base files seemed wery old to me. The german language package seemed ok. Then I downloaded the base image from the .torrent file, which seemed to me the only up-to-date source I could get. It was quite a pain, because the only torrent client I had on my parents computer was the torrent downloader from Opera, which is quite slow compared to other torrent clients. After putting the new base files to the SD card, at least the german language was there. I don't know what happened with the english. According to the docs there seems to be a single-language installation (all lang files at root directory) and a multi-lang version with each language in a subfolder. Obviously the do not co-exist. And the well-known problems: Touchscreen is hard to handle (but learnable), backlight for people of higher age is really missing because of their eyes. At least the contrast setup (which seems only to appear if you boot the device without sd card) could/should be part of the usual sdcard-'OS'. (for example pressing the power button short instead of holding it for power-down?). So far I'm now happy with it, I like the device, if my parents do - we will see ;) Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
And here you can find the source code (thanks to Christof and Christian): http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki;a=summary I switched from matchbox-keyboard to literki yesterday evening on Debian. I wanted just the keyboard, so I patched it to remove everything else especially as those elements seemed to somehow block other items I liked to click. Furthermore, I added ä, ö and € letters and did some other mods. Put them now quickly at http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/moko/literki_mods/ Thanks for the work, it's quite nice improvement over matchbox-keyboard at least. Of course there have been other options as well but I've been too lazy to try others out before this. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
В Сбт, 26/12/2009 в 08:44 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: I'm stupid, of course you can use 2 layouts. Just use a function key, like fn to switch between them. Example: (russian letter) key a b c d russian sth sth (english letter) key v w x y normal sth sth (switch) key j k l m normal sth $is_russian russian sth $is_russian The problem is a bit bigger. I've tried to adopt layout conf to use russian letters, but got stuck. There are lower case and upper case letters. In english - everything is easy: normal and shift, but this scheme prohibits of entering anything else then this. Seems that it needs not such an easy method, but more complicated with switchable layouts, not just Fn key. -- WBR, Vladimir Berezenko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2010/1/14 Vladimir Berezenko qmas...@rambler.ru В Сбт, 26/12/2009 в 08:44 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: I'm stupid, of course you can use 2 layouts. Just use a function key, like fn to switch between them. Example: (russian letter) key a b c d russian sth sth (english letter) key v w x y normal sth sth (switch) key j k l m normal sth $is_russian russian sth $is_russian The problem is a bit bigger. I've tried to adopt layout conf to use russian letters, but got stuck. There are lower case and upper case letters. In english - everything is easy: normal and shift, but this scheme prohibits of entering anything else then this. Seems that it needs not such an easy method, but more complicated with switchable layouts, not just Fn key. You can have as many layouts as you want. Right now there are 4 - normal, shift, capslock, fn. So just add 2 more, like russian, russian_shift or something. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 16:49 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: You can have as many layouts as you want. Right now there are 4 - normal, shift, capslock, fn. So just add 2 more, like russian, russian_shift or something. Ok. Might they be added in config or they also should be added in code? I've seen that you're checking those shift thingies in code and add them to capslock. Is there any need to add also alt and altshift there? -- WBR, Vladimir Berezenko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2010/1/14 Vladimir Berezenko qmas...@rambler.ru В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 16:49 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: You can have as many layouts as you want. Right now there are 4 - normal, shift, capslock, fn. So just add 2 more, like russian, russian_shift or something. Ok. Might they be added in config or they also should be added in code? I've seen that you're checking those shift thingies in code and add them to capslock. Is there any need to add also alt and altshift there? I don't think you need to change the code, at least it was designed so that you don't have to. Where am I checking shift and capslock in the code? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 17:28 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: I don't think you need to change the code, at least it was designed so that you don't have to. Where am I checking shift and capslock in the code? keymap.cpp:80 if (first == shift action!=capslock) keys[GetFunId(capslock)].push_back(k); -- WBR, Vladimir Berezenko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2010/1/14 Vladimir Berezenko qmas...@rambler.ru В Чтв, 14/01/2010 в 17:28 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: I don't think you need to change the code, at least it was designed so that you don't have to. Where am I checking shift and capslock in the code? keymap.cpp:80 if (first == shift action!=capslock) keys[GetFunId(capslock)].push_back(k); Ok, sorry, I forgot about it (it's been a while since I've written that part). The capslock mode is special in the sense that it copies all keys from the shift mode. That's what these 2 lines do. It's so that you don't have to define every single key in the capslock mode. The thing that's special about the shift mode is that it returns to normal mode after a key is pressed. It's impossible to define this purely in the layout file atm. So your shift_russian mode wouldn't have that property. This is implemented in the lines 106-108 and 134-137 in keymap.cpp. So you can change line 107 to sth like if (f == shift || f == shift_russian) and it will work. Or just check if the prefix is shift. Unfortunately I'm not able to fix this now in the general case (I'll be travelling for the next few months). If you have an idea for a fix (so you can define the keep_fun property in the layout file), feel free to release a new version. I'll be available via email every once in a while if you have questions, but I might not be reading this list. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
Ok, here's another version with a few fixes - page up, page down keys work now - $ key works now - can toggle between opaque and transparent mode If you want to use opaque mode in the landscape resolution, it's probably wise to change the window size in the config, as it occupies almost the whole screen by default. Please test if everything works, because I'm only available until the end of next week, and then I won't have time to do any fixes. http://pvtrace.com/~miki150/literki_0.0.2-r6_armv4t.ipk 2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm Hi, here you can find the new version of Literki: http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r5_armv4t.ipk Changes: - fixed vibration - fixed some embarasing memory leaks - added horizontal and vertical scrolling buttons to the touchpad - they simulate mouse wheel scrolling. Since SHR is using Xorg now, all four scroll buttons work, and the pointer seems to be a little bit faster. This should greatly improve web browser experience, I hope. You can now use the mouse pointer to click tiny little links, and use the scroll buttons instead of scroll bars. Hope you have fun, Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/27 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com honestly michal, im on of your faithful followers of this fantastic program but i really dont know why you switched for the opaque / transparent switchable keyboard to one that is only transparent. im still slumming it with version 0.1 for that reason. i hardly ever use the transparent feature. and i think the opaque looks much nicer. if there were a way to change the font size in 0.1 in opaque mode that would be amazing. Hi Jeremy, Thanks for the input. I'll try to reintroduce the opaque mode feature, but don't hold your breath. After I added the new larger font, I thought opaque mode wasn't needed anymore. So why exactly don't you like transparent mode? Is it not visible enough or too slow? Have you tried using it for a while (the 0.2 version) to see if you get used to it? Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: So why exactly don't you like transparent mode? Is it not visible enough or too slow? Have you tried using it for a while (the 0.2 version) to see if you get used to it? yes i have had 0.2 install for a while. and the lack of vibrate was what i missed the most. the missing opaque mode sealed the deal for me dropping back. more or less its just more visually frustrating to me. and i cannot really read anything below the letters anyhow so might as well put it to a mode where the letters are highly visible. and with a black and white text/background combo they are very visible. if i ever need to see something that is hidden under the keyboard i just used the moved keyboard up and down keys. though the real hotness would be to just have one key [mode key] that lets you drag the keyboard around with your finger! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm Hi, here you can find the new version of Literki: http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r5_armv4t.ipk For those undecided, here are 2 screenshots. This is the touchpad. On the right are the scrolling buttons, on the left the mouse buttons, and the pointer above. You move the pointer by using the touchpad area between the buttons. http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a0b9c9fd3583ed234a4e88ca068bfd61.png And this is the good old keyboard. http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/b0fd86b85f810efad34104827fab41d9.png To open the touchpad, you slide up from bottom left corner. To close it, slide down starting on any of the buttons. To open the keyboard, slide up from the bottom right corner. And slide down anywhere to close it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: For those undecided, here are 2 screenshots. Thanks. I'm currently looking for a keyboard for texting with a finger, so the screenshots are very helpful. (I use Debian, and the matchbox-keyboard is fine for detailed work, but not when you want to send a text while walking along the street.) But I have to say, it's really ugly! How do you manage to make the letters look so bad? Is it because they are magnified from a font that isn't designed for such a large size? Also, given that you are using transparency, why not use more of the screen, like kbosd does? Personally I like the look of kbosd and the usability of literki. I wish there was a combination of those two! (To be clear, by the usability I mean this: To open the touchpad, you slide up from bottom left corner. To close it, slide down starting on any of the buttons. To open the keyboard, slide up from the bottom right corner. And slide down anywhere to close it. With kbosd I have the problem that I can't get rid of it once it's there!) Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/27 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com But I have to say, it's really ugly! How do you manage to make the letters look so bad? Is it because they are magnified from a font that isn't designed for such a large size? Also, given that you are using transparency, why not use more of the screen, like kbosd does? Have a look at the config file. You can change the size of the keyboard, the font, and lots of other stuff. If it's still ugly you can buy an iphone :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: 2009/12/27 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com But I have to say, it's really ugly! How do you manage to make the letters look so bad? Is it because they are magnified from a font that isn't designed for such a large size? Also, given that you are using transparency, why not use more of the screen, like kbosd does? Have a look at the config file. You can change the size of the keyboard, the font, and lots of other stuff. If it's still ugly you can buy an iphone :-) Thanks for your quick answer. I'll look at the config, as you suggest - although I still think it's a valid question why the default font looks so bad. Buying an iphone is not an option! Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: But I have to say, it's really ugly! How do you manage to make the letters look so bad? Is it because they are magnified from a font that isn't designed for such a large size? honestly michal, im on of your faithful followers of this fantastic program but i really dont know why you switched for the opaque / transparent switchable keyboard to one that is only transparent. im still slumming it with version 0.1 for that reason. i hardly ever use the transparent feature. and i think the opaque looks much nicer. if there were a way to change the font size in 0.1 in opaque mode that would be amazing. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: And here you can find the source code (thanks to Christof and Christian): http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki;a=summary Unfortunately this repository is missing the source code for mymask.o, and because of that I can't build literki. (Which I'm doing, instead of using opkg, because my distro is Debian.) Could you possibly upload the missing file? Thanks! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/27 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com 2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: And here you can find the source code (thanks to Christof and Christian): http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki;a=summary Unfortunately this repository is missing the source code for mymask.o, and because of that I can't build literki. (Which I'm doing, instead of using opkg, because my distro is Debian.) Could you possibly upload the missing file? The makefile needed an update, sorry for that. See if it works now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: The makefile needed an update, sorry for that. See if it works now. Many thanks, the build is successful now. Then a slight adjustment was needed to the font path, and trying out... Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/27 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: 2009/12/27 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: The makefile needed an update, sorry for that. See if it works now. Many thanks, the build is successful now. Then a slight adjustment was needed to the font path, and trying out... Well I'm happy to report that it looks nicer in reality than it does in the screen shots! However, when the keyboard isn't showing, it (literki) doesn't seem to pass mouse clicks through to the window underneath. Do I need to be using Xglamo or xserver-xorg-server-glamo? (I'm currently using fbdev.) If not, any other ideas? Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/27 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com However, when the keyboard isn't showing, it (literki) doesn't seem to pass mouse clicks through to the window underneath. Do I need to be using Xglamo or xserver-xorg-server-glamo? (I'm currently using fbdev.) If not, any other ideas? It doesn't pass mouse clicks through the whole area where the keyboard was? It looks like a bug in literki, but I have no idea why it wouldn't occur in the SHR version. Normally when you hide the keyboard, the windows are moved outside the screen. The only thing that's left are the bottom transparent panels whose height is about 80px. They pass through mouse clicks, although not mouse drag events. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/28 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: 2009/12/27 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com However, when the keyboard isn't showing, it (literki) doesn't seem to pass mouse clicks through to the window underneath. Do I need to be using Xglamo or xserver-xorg-server-glamo? (I'm currently using fbdev.) If not, any other ideas? It doesn't pass mouse clicks through the whole area where the keyboard was? It looks like a bug in literki, but I have no idea why it wouldn't occur in the SHR version. Normally when you hide the keyboard, the windows are moved outside the screen. The only thing that's left are the bottom transparent panels whose height is about 80px. They pass through mouse clicks, although not mouse drag events. Many thanks, I'll investigate further with this in mind... Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/24 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Hi Michal, does this version co-exist nicely with e? - no more fighting with the built in keyboard on full screen apps? BillK This is the ticket on this bug: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/398 I don't know if this will ever get fixed. If you want to get rid of it, switch to a different wm. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
В Чтв, 24/12/2009 в 14:58 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: No, it only uses different layouts for portrait and landscape mode, if that helps you. Is it possible to implement in later releases the possibility of switching layouts. 1 layout is too few for russians. 8( -- WBR, Vladimir Berezenko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/25 Vladimir Berezenko qmas...@rambler.ru Is it possible to implement in later releases the possibility of switching layouts. 1 layout is too few for russians. 8( I'm stupid, of course you can use 2 layouts. Just use a function key, like fn to switch between them. Example: (russian letter) key a b c d russian sth sth (english letter) key v w x y normal sth sth (switch) key j k l m normal sth $is_russian russian sth $is_russian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/24 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm here you can find the new version of Literki: http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r5_armv4t.ipk And here you can find the source code (thanks to Christof and Christian): http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki;a=summary In a couple of weeks I'll be going away for half a year, and won't do any development. I anyone wants to pick up Literki, feel free. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 11:23 +0100, Michal Brzozowski wrote: Hi, here you can find the new version of Literki: http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r5_armv4t.ipk Changes: - fixed vibration - fixed some embarasing memory leaks - added horizontal and vertical scrolling buttons to the touchpad - they simulate mouse wheel scrolling. Since SHR is using Xorg now, all four scroll buttons work, and the pointer seems to be a little bit faster. This should greatly improve web browser experience, I hope. You can now use the mouse pointer to click tiny little links, and use the scroll buttons instead of scroll bars. Hope you have fun, Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Michal, does this version co-exist nicely with e? - no more fighting with the built in keyboard on full screen apps? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
В Чтв, 24/12/2009 в 11:23 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: Changes: - fixed vibration - fixed some embarasing memory leaks - added horizontal and vertical scrolling buttons to the touchpad - they simulate mouse wheel scrolling. Is it possible to use 2 different keyboard layouts in literki? Like english and russian. -- WBR, Vladimir Berezenko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/24 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Hi Michal, does this version co-exist nicely with e? - no more fighting with the built in keyboard on full screen apps? Are you talking about e crashing on fullscreen when keyboard is set to none? It's a bug in illume, I filed it long time ago, but I don't know if it's fixed. I don't use e since long ago. The bug has nothing to do with Literki btw. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/12/24 Vladimir Berezenko qmas...@rambler.ru В Чтв, 24/12/2009 в 11:23 +0100, Michal Brzozowski пишет: Changes: - fixed vibration - fixed some embarasing memory leaks - added horizontal and vertical scrolling buttons to the touchpad - they simulate mouse wheel scrolling. Is it possible to use 2 different keyboard layouts in literki? Like english and russian. No, it only uses different layouts for portrait and landscape mode, if that helps you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Hi, Changes: - fixed vibration sweet, maybe now i can upgrade from o.1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Hi, Changes: - fixed vibration hmmm strange behavior at a close distance. ive been playing around with it for about 15 min now. adjusted the colors and vibration power. all was well until i tried to minimize the keyboard. the terminal window over ssh on my desktop just started scrolling INFO: Refreshing with buffer 011 INFO: Refreshing with buffer 011 INFO: Refreshing with buffer 011 INFO: Refreshing with buffer 011 INFO: Refreshing with buffer 011 INFO: Refreshing with buffer 011 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 282 71 1 INFO: click 266 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 268 73 1 INFO: click 260 73 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 274 57 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 252 63 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1 INFO: click 304 71 1
Re: literki update
2009/12/24 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com so then i brought the keyboard back from minimized and the scrolling stopped. only now i have an overlay of a cartoon cell phone, a rocket ship, and a little boat drawn on a black background as soon as i kill literki the overlay drops off. so... good luck with that! The top overlay is my window switcher in Icewm :-) You can turn it off in the config file. About the clicks, I don't know why so many got generated, but if it should work ok if you ignore them. I'll see if I come across any problem in the next few days ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update 2009-10-28
Thanks! But I would say there are lot of news this time ;) thanks to all contributors. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko - Update
Hi guys, I have already falsh QtMoko on my device and I have recived this error: neo:~# apt-get update ... W: GPG error: http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E2B9DE6A8E7B323B W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems How i can fix? Install/upgrade pkg-fso-keyring package. when asked, agree to install unsigned package. Then run apt-get update again. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko - Update
Thanks! :-) Il giorno mer, 16/09/2009 alle 23.20 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko ha scritto: Hi guys, I have already falsh QtMoko on my device and I have recived this error: neo:~# apt-get update ... W: GPG error: http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E2B9DE6A8E7B323B W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems How i can fix? Install/upgrade pkg-fso-keyring package. when asked, agree to install unsigned package. Then run apt-get update again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Questa è una parte del messaggio firmata digitalmente ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
2009/8/12 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: No. I've had to install shr-U on another partition on my sd-card and am using that. Waiting for the right version of the package to hit the repository for now so, you installed an earlier version, which didn't have this bug? is that correct? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
Do what I did - re-install on the second partition and copy /home/root over to it... I did exactly that and had a working version by flashing the image from Aug8. But then I wanted my old apps as well so I went ahead with opkg update (instinctively) followed by opkg upgrade. That ruined it :( yet again. BTW, libfsoframework and ousaged are not git367 one $ opkg list_installed | grep -e libfsoframework0 -e fsousaged fsousaged - 0.0.0.0+gitr367+3c3e1b862cdde806cef8f502dfe79f1d48f1c5d7-r5.0 - libfsoframework0 - 0.1.0.0+gitr367+3c3e1b862cdde806cef8f502dfe79f1d48f1c5d7-r5.1 - In fact IIRC, I didn't these two installing during upgrade anyways (I can't be sure though). Was this expected...Am I not supposed to upgrade even on the latest image??? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
I had the same issue here, i had to reflash :( -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/latest-update-fsousaged-crash%21%21-tp3411842p3429732.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
Hi, Well, things have just started working. Finally! Lots of updates - and the new FSO usage daemon. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/latest-update-fsousaged-crash%21%21-tp3411842p3431877.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
The same here. Fortunately everything is working fine again. On 8/12/09, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Well, things have just started working. Finally! Lots of updates - and the new FSO usage daemon. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/latest-update-fsousaged-crash%21%21-tp3411842p3431877.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
2009/8/11 Linus Gasser ine...@markas-al-nour.org: ** (process:1812): CRITICAL **: fso_framework_logger_createFromKeyFile: assertion `domain != NULL' failed Segmentation fault What can I do? Help!! Do what I did - re-install on the second partition and copy /home/root over to it... do you know what causes this? it'd be nice to get it sorted without having to reinstall thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
Hi, Robin Paulson wrote: do you know what causes this? it'd be nice to get it sorted without having to reinstall In my case it was libfsoframework0-git368 which opkg doesn't upgrade on its own. Couldn't wait to try anyways. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/latest-update-fsousaged-crash%21%21-tp3411842p3423552.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
In my case it was libfsoframework0-git368 which opkg doesn't upgrade on its own. Couldn't wait to try anyways. Sorry I'm not sure if I understand. Does this mean that you were able to solve this problem without reinstalling shr? If so, how exactly? Cheers, Edwin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
Hi, Edder wrote: Does this mean that you were able to solve this problem without reinstalling shr? If so, how exactly? No. I've had to install shr-U on another partition on my sd-card and am using that. Waiting for the right version of the package to hit the repository for now -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/latest-update-fsousaged-crash%21%21-tp3411842p3423758.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
when it's fixed please send an email.. i'll opkg upgrade (because i broke my shr as you did... ;-) ) d On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:03 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Edder wrote: Does this mean that you were able to solve this problem without reinstalling shr? If so, how exactly? No. I've had to install shr-U on another partition on my sd-card and am using that. Waiting for the right version of the package to hit the repository for now -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/latest-update-fsousaged-crash%21%21-tp3411842p3423758.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
rusolis wrote: 2009/8/9 Edder ed...@tkwsping.nl Am experiencing the same problem. Am I right in assuming that this is why the sim card does not come 'online' (no GSM connection). I have the same problem. Can't make or receive phone calls, otherwise no errors. Me too. I tried to enable again ousaged instead, but that did not help neither. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/latest-update-fsousaged-crash%21%21-tp3411842p3418495.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
c_c a écrit : Hi, I have the latest updates with libfsoframework0 - 0.1.0.0+gitr368+e808af24134049c4f41e77f6e5de1c9144a7e7b1-r5.1 and fsousaged - 0.0.0.0+gitr368+e808af24134049c4f41e77f6e5de1c9144a7e7b1-r5.0 But fsousaged crashes with :- ** Message: common.vala:48: Using framework configuration file at './frameworkd.conf' ** (process:1812): CRITICAL **: fso_framework_logger_createFromKeyFile: assertion `domain != NULL' failed Segmentation fault What can I do? Help!! Do what I did - re-install on the second partition and copy /home/root over to it... Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
I'm talking about SHR-U. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/latest-update-fsousaged-crash%21%21-tp3411842p3411844.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 9:09 AM, c_ccchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I have the latest updates with libfsoframework0 - 0.1.0.0+gitr368+e808af24134049c4f41e77f6e5de1c9144a7e7b1-r5.1 and fsousaged - 0.0.0.0+gitr368+e808af24134049c4f41e77f6e5de1c9144a7e7b1-r5.0 But fsousaged crashes with :- ** Message: common.vala:48: Using framework configuration file at './frameworkd.conf' ** (process:1812): CRITICAL **: fso_framework_logger_createFromKeyFile: assertion `domain != NULL' failed Segmentation fault Am experiencing the same problem. Am I right in assuming that this is why the sim card does not come 'online' (no GSM connection). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
2009/8/9 Edder ed...@tkwsping.nl Am experiencing the same problem. Am I right in assuming that this is why the sim card does not come 'online' (no GSM connection). I have the same problem. Can't make or receive phone calls, otherwise no errors. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard specified. Specifying the category in .desktop only causes illume to launch the keyboard at startup. To have it fully integrated you need to do some E magic in the code, and for me, using only xlib in literki, sounds too complicated atm to bother. I'm planning to set up an Icewm environment soon anyway, as I don't like Illume. i have been using literki as the main keyboard now since the new version with mouse support got released. saying this already implies i like it :), thank you Michal! and i am very happy about the way literki works with transparency - for example with midori or actually any app: if you need the keyboard on and off, freerunner is simply too slow redrawing the screen while the application needs to get resized to make space for a keyboard. a couple of things: - if startup of literki could be changed - now a yellow rectangle is drawn on the screen that looks bad - could literki start with some coordinates that are off the screen? - for the future, integration with illume would be a logical step and ideally a button to switch between transparent overlay keyboard and windowed keyboard (perhaps restart would be needed, i am not sure) thanks once again Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it. I liked it. In fact i still do, despite it is missing :) -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly): http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html Have fun, Michal Michal, can you explain the conf file and perhaps where it lives? i want my keypress vibration back! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:50 AM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: Michal, can you explain the conf file and perhaps where it lives? i want my keypress vibration back! oh... nevermind ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/7/21 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:50 AM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: Michal, can you explain the conf file and perhaps where it lives? i want my keypress vibration back! oh... nevermind Sorry, vibration doesn't work at the moment. I'll turn it back on in the next release. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Sorry, vibration doesn't work at the moment. I'll turn it back on in the next release. OH NOS! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/7/21 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Sorry, vibration doesn't work at the moment. I'll turn it back on in the next release. OH NOS! Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it. actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else. like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:30 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it. actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else. like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard. A tap sound may help too. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else. like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard. A tap sound may help too. optional, please... hate that tap-tap sound :) P. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/7/21 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else. like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard. A tap sound may help too. optional, please... hate that tap-tap sound :) P. how about a speech dispatcher to tell you what letter you typed? :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: literki update
how about a speech dispatcher to tell you what letter you typed? :-) Actually a good idea for some folks. Having access to all of these options via a config would be great. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Petr Vanekvan...@penguin.cz wrote: actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else. like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard. A tap sound may help too. optional, please... hate that tap-tap sound :) Oh! yes mee too some times :) Michal may add a custom slide to enable/disable it. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2009/7/21 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz actually i thought it was one of the best parts of the keyboard. it let me know if i pressed the key if i am looking at something else. like a very pale comparison to a physical keyboard. A tap sound may help too. optional, please... hate that tap-tap sound :) P. how about a speech dispatcher to tell you what letter you typed? :-) Great for little childrens :)) Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
Great job, Michal! Literki is the best keyboard I've used on my FR. Thank You, and keep it up! 2009/7/19 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm Hi community, This is a new version of your favorite keyboard. This update is concentrated on using libfreetype for fonts, and this means 2 things: - it supports unicode input (at least I hope so, I tried it only with Polish letters :-)) - it looks much nicer - the keys are much more visible when transparent, and thus I left transparency always on - you can change the font and size The mechanism for showing/hiding the keyboard has also changed. To pop up the keyboard: slide your finger upwards from the bottom right corner. To hide the keyboard: slide your finger down on the keyboard. You can configure what distance you need to slide. If you just click the bottom right corner, the click goes through to the application, so it (almost) doesn't affect using other applications when the keyboard is hidden. Here's the package: http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly): http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html Here's a recent screenshot: http://pvtrace.com/literki2.png Have fun, Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
I've uploaded the source code. http://pvtrace.com/literki-0.0.2.tar.gz It is possible to use qwerty-button to popup and hide Literki? I'm not planning to integrate literki with illume, I think the current show/hide method is good enough. 2009/7/20 OpenMitko openmi...@gmail.com Great job, Michal! Literki is the best keyboard I've used on my FR. Thank You, and keep it up! 2009/7/19 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm Hi community, This is a new version of your favorite keyboard. This update is concentrated on using libfreetype for fonts, and this means 2 things: - it supports unicode input (at least I hope so, I tried it only with Polish letters :-)) - it looks much nicer - the keys are much more visible when transparent, and thus I left transparency always on - you can change the font and size The mechanism for showing/hiding the keyboard has also changed. To pop up the keyboard: slide your finger upwards from the bottom right corner. To hide the keyboard: slide your finger down on the keyboard. You can configure what distance you need to slide. If you just click the bottom right corner, the click goes through to the application, so it (almost) doesn't affect using other applications when the keyboard is hidden. Here's the package: http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly): http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html Here's a recent screenshot: http://pvtrace.com/literki2.png Have fun, Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
Hi Michał, I have just tried to install literki on OM2009t5 gave: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk Installing literki (0.0.2-r3) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for literki: * libfakekey0 (= 0.2+svnr1455) * Any hints, where can i get this library? -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/7/20 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl Hi Michał, I have just tried to install literki on OM2009t5 gave: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk Downloading http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk Installing literki (0.0.2-r3) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for literki: * libfakekey0 (= 0.2+svnr1455) * Any hints, where can i get this library? Try here: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/libfakekey0_0.2+svnr1455-r1_armv4t.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On 7/20/09, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: I've uploaded the source code. http://pvtrace.com/literki-0.0.2.tar.gz It is possible to use qwerty-button to popup and hide Literki? I'm not planning to integrate literki with illume, I think the current show/hide method is good enough. 2009/7/20 OpenMitko openmi...@gmail.com Great job, Michal! Literki is the best keyboard I've used on my FR. Thank You, and keep it up! 2009/7/19 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm Hi community, This is a new version of your favorite keyboard. This update is concentrated on using libfreetype for fonts, and this means 2 things: - it supports unicode input (at least I hope so, I tried it only with Polish letters :-)) - it looks much nicer - the keys are much more visible when transparent, and thus I left transparency always on - you can change the font and size The mechanism for showing/hiding the keyboard has also changed. To pop up the keyboard: slide your finger upwards from the bottom right corner. To hide the keyboard: slide your finger down on the keyboard. You can configure what distance you need to slide. If you just click the bottom right corner, the click goes through to the application, so it (almost) doesn't affect using other applications when the keyboard is hidden. Here's the package: http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly): http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html Here's a recent screenshot: http://pvtrace.com/literki2.png Have fun, Michal Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with Keyboard category? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
Does it support left slide for backspace and right slide for space? -f- On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/20/09, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: I've uploaded the source code. http://pvtrace.com/literki-0.0.2.tar.gz It is possible to use qwerty-button to popup and hide Literki? I'm not planning to integrate literki with illume, I think the current show/hide method is good enough. 2009/7/20 OpenMitko openmi...@gmail.com Great job, Michal! Literki is the best keyboard I've used on my FR. Thank You, and keep it up! 2009/7/19 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm Hi community, This is a new version of your favorite keyboard. This update is concentrated on using libfreetype for fonts, and this means 2 things: - it supports unicode input (at least I hope so, I tried it only with Polish letters :-)) - it looks much nicer - the keys are much more visible when transparent, and thus I left transparency always on - you can change the font and size The mechanism for showing/hiding the keyboard has also changed. To pop up the keyboard: slide your finger upwards from the bottom right corner. To hide the keyboard: slide your finger down on the keyboard. You can configure what distance you need to slide. If you just click the bottom right corner, the click goes through to the application, so it (almost) doesn't affect using other applications when the keyboard is hidden. Here's the package: http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r3_armv4t.ipk Here's a literki.conf explanation (I will update it shortly): http://pvtrace.com/literki_conf.html Here's a recent screenshot: http://pvtrace.com/literki2.png Have fun, Michal Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with Keyboard category? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with Keyboard category? AFAIK illume virtual keyboards resizes the desktop area, while literki works on a different approach. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with Keyboard category? i am not sure it's so easy. probably there is a signel emmited from illume and literki would have to accept and react on it. certainly this would be a nice addition to the existing (very nice) way of popping up (and also configurable through the already existing illume setup interface). Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On 7/20/09, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Isn't integrating it in Illume just one desktop file with Keyboard category? AFAIK illume virtual keyboards resizes the desktop area, while literki works on a different approach. There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard specified. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/7/20 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard specified. Specifying the category in .desktop only causes illume to launch the keyboard at startup. To have it fully integrated you need to do some E magic in the code, and for me, using only xlib in literki, sounds too complicated atm to bother. I'm planning to set up an Icewm environment soon anyway, as I don't like Illume. If there's a volunteer to integrate literki and illume, I'll gladly accept a patch :-) Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
On 7/20/09, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2009/7/20 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard specified. Specifying the category in .desktop only causes illume to launch the keyboard at startup. To have it fully integrated you need to do some E magic in the code, and for me, using only xlib in literki, sounds too complicated atm to bother. I'm planning to set up an Icewm environment soon anyway, as I don't like Illume. If there's a volunteer to integrate literki and illume, I'll gladly accept a patch :-) Michal I don't think matchbox-keyboard, openmoko-keyboard, gridpad, Qtopia keyboard and qwo E apps or are integrated into Illume. But they works with Illume correctly :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
2009/7/20 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard specified. I would love to see this transparency patch aplied by default on shr unstable... The best would be an option (conf file) to set on or off the transparency How far from this are we yet ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
In case you didn't see the other thread. I implemented a mouse simulation touchpad app. It allows you to point accurately without using a stylus, and right click as well. Just install this literki version: http://pvtrace.com/literki_0.0.2-r4_armv4t.ipk To bring up the touchpad, slide up from the bottom left corner. To bring it down, slide down on the buttons. The keyboard is bound to the bottom right corner, as previously. I'm curious to know how this input method works for you. Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
Hey Michal, I really like using literky and i like the new version even more. The way how to popup/hide the keyboard is great and intuitinal. Keep up the good work! Jake ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: literki update
Great. It is possible to use qwerty-button to popup and hide Literki? And release link to sources. -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: trouble update with tangoGPS, any idea?
Daniel.Li wrote: * Failed to download http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4/Packages.gz, error 404 quoting a message from Al Johnson: There is no package missing as there is no armv4 entry in the repository. There is an armv4 config in /etc/opkg/ which shouldn't be there, and has probably been removed in recent images, and it is that that causes the error. You can safely ignore it, or just delete the offending entry. Note that armv4t is required - one character makes all the difference! This was applicable to the SHR distribution, maybe others, but I don't have the clear picture of what is common or not between distros. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
