Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
On 02/18/2013 07:47 AM, David Matthews wrote: I tried using SIP (Linphone) on Debian without any luck. After removing echo cancellation in Linphone settings I can hear other side but the I'd be interested in any success reports with linphone or any other sip client on a current freerunner distro Anyone? I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX. I used this [1] as a guide to get things working. The author has some broken links to his configuration files, though. Here are the corrected links: http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc I did find that it is necessary to restore the gsmhandset state scenario after exiting Linphone. Otherwise the phone hangs when suspending. alsactl -f /opt/qtmoko/etc/alsa-scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore I've been making calls over an OpenVPN tunnel on WiFi back to my asterisk server. The call quality is very nice with only an occasional audio stutter. It is definitely usable. Regards, Aaron [1] http://acaia.ca/~tiago/posts/VoIP_in_Neo_Freerunner_with_Qtmoko_and_Linphone/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
Hi Aaron I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX. I used this [1] as a guide to get things working. The author has some broken links to his configuration files, though. Here are the corrected links: http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc Thanks for those links - that is very encouraging - I'll be giving this a try Regards -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
Hello Aaron, Can you please provide more information, e.g. 1. Which kernel are you using? 2. Can you use arecord to record the microphone, i.e. can you hear a recording of yourself when running the following commands (replace path-to-voip-handset.state by the correct path)? alsactl -f path-to-voip-handset.state restore arecord -D hw:0,0 -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav Thanks for your help, Alon. On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 13:35 -0500, Aaron Sells wrote: I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX. I used this [1] as a guide to get things working. The author has some broken links to his configuration files, though. Here are the corrected links: http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc I did find that it is necessary to restore the gsmhandset state scenario after exiting Linphone. Otherwise the phone hangs when suspending. alsactl -f /opt/qtmoko/etc/alsa-scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore I've been making calls over an OpenVPN tunnel on WiFi back to my asterisk server. The call quality is very nice with only an occasional audio stutter. It is definitely usable. Regards, Aaron [1] http://acaia.ca/~tiago/posts/VoIP_in_Neo_Freerunner_with_Qtmoko_and_Linphone/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
On 02/19/2013 04:20 PM, alonivtsan wrote: Hello Aaron, Can you please provide more information, e.g. 1. Which kernel are you using? root@neo:~# uname -a Linux neo 2.6.34-qtmoko-v48 #1 Wed Sep 12 11:31:51 UTC 2012 armv4tl GNU/Linux 2. Can you use arecord to record the microphone, i.e. can you hear a recording of yourself when running the following commands (replace path-to-voip-handset.state by the correct path)? alsactl -f path-to-voip-handset.state restore arecord -D hw:0,0 -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav No, that doesn't seem to work. This works though: alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore arecord -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav Regards, Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
Thank you Aaron for your help. I simply copied the voip-handset.state file from qtmoko v48 and now everything works. To fix the quality of my output getting worse over time I enabled only GSM codec and disabled Enable adaptive rate control. On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 16:38 -0500, Aaron Sells wrote: On 02/19/2013 04:20 PM, alonivtsan wrote: Hello Aaron, Can you please provide more information, e.g. 1. Which kernel are you using? root@neo:~# uname -a Linux neo 2.6.34-qtmoko-v48 #1 Wed Sep 12 11:31:51 UTC 2012 armv4tl GNU/Linux 2. Can you use arecord to record the microphone, i.e. can you hear a recording of yourself when running the following commands (replace path-to-voip-handset.state by the correct path)? alsactl -f path-to-voip-handset.state restore arecord -D hw:0,0 -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav No, that doesn't seem to work. This works though: alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore arecord -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav Regards, Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
I tried using SIP (Linphone) on Debian without any luck. After removing echo cancellation in Linphone settings I can hear other side but the I'd be interested in any success reports with linphone or any other sip client on a current freerunner distro Anyone? -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian on Freerunner+SIP
Hello all, I tried using SIP (Linphone) on Debian without any luck. After removing echo cancellation in Linphone settings I can hear other side but the other side cannot hear me. I think the issue is microphone not recording. I'm using the standard kernel that is shipped in Debian (2.6.34). Switching via alsactl to voip handset state file and using arecord does not work in Debian but works fine in Om2009. If this is a kernel issue, is there a new kernel which supports microphone recording (I tried using Om2009 kernel - 2.6.29 - but boot failed)? Thanks, Alon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian on freerunner
Hi guys, I'm trying to install Debian on the FR. I get stuck when downloading the packages because it doesn't find/download coreutils... any suggestions? Thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on freerunner
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes: Hi guys, I'm trying to install Debian on the FR. I get stuck when downloading the packages because it doesn't find/download coreutils... You should send the full output of the install.sh script. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian on Freerunner installation: broken FSO-Packages?
Hi! I thought I give debian another try. I use the manual from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner It always stops at: * Zhone GUI: true Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: zhone: Depends: python-edbus but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-ecore but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-edje but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-evas but it is not going to be installed Depends: libevas-engines (= 0.9.9.050+svn20090204) but it is not installable Depends: zhone-illume-glue but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages What can I do about it? j�...@home ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] on Freerunner feed back
Hello Freerunners, I have been using a Freerunner under Debian for one month. It is not yet fully usable, but I am still working on it. 1.GSM Zhone works not too bad. I have applied the patch to use a VCARD file but the dial button does not work anymore (it works with contacts on the SIM card). I have tried scripts to import a VCF file into the SIM card without success. I am not yet very aware of the dbus system to write my own Python script. I have some bugs with SMS - the phone does not ring when I receive a message and the messages are always written as unread (until I reboot the phone). 2.PIM I have tried: -osmo: not recurrent events, no alarm (only for tasks) -pimlico: not recurrent events, no alarm but uses Evolution's back-end -GPE apps: fully functional apps but require gpesyncd for synchronisation - not available in the debian repositories 2.PIM SYNC -osmo: not tried -GPE apps: not tried - see below -pimlico method 1: *contacts: imported successfully from a VCF file *tasks: not tried yet *dates: merged the ICAL files from Evolution and dates successfully (using a custom Python script) -pimlico method 2: *successfully synchronised Evolution's contacts tasks and calendar with a Scheduleworld account using syncevolution (repository: deb http://www.estamos.de/download/apt stable main). I could not manage to sync the Freerunner due to a missing dependency with syncevolution-evolution (problem with the repository?). 3.GPS TangoGPS works well. I have not tried Navit yet. 4.WIFI Does not work yet (wifi-radar - wicd) - I think I have a dependency problem... 5.ACCELEROMETER Works well - I have tried it with the mokomaze game (apt-get install it) 6.AUTOROTATE SCREEN Simple rotate freezes my freerunner with XGLAMO. What I would like to do: -find a usable configuration to use a PIM suite (synchronized with my desktop PC) to replace my Palm TE2. -configure the WIFI -install Navit and buy reiseplaner maps -make the autorotate work -make Zhone fully usable I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers. Regards, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back
Thomas Bellembois a écrit : Hi Thomas, 1.GSM 2.PIM Not stable enough to use as daily phone, so I didn't test zhone others fully enough to comment. Anyway, thank you for these comments, i'd love to use it eventually ! 3.GPS TangoGPS works well. I have not tried Navit yet. Same here. I don't know if it's due to kernel (andy - 2.6.29) but I manage to get fixes even when I don't hope so (in my office, 4 meters from the window). 4.WIFI Does not work yet (wifi-radar - wicd) - I think I have a dependency problem... No real problem here, I use wicd. It works quite well, but is quite slow... What I did actually : 1) Installed wicd (apt-get install wicd) 2) removed wicd from start-up (with update-rc) 3) in the openmoko-panel-plugin, I put in post-activate : /etc/init.d/wicd start; wicd-client pre-deactivate: /etc/init.d/wicd stop; pkill wicd-client With this, when you activate wifi from om-panek-plugin, known networks are automatically connected (if told so in wicd), wicd client shows an icon in the tray. And when you disable it, everything shuts down. 5.ACCELEROMETER Works well - I have tried it with the mokomaze game (apt-get install it) With last kernel, since it's EV_ABS instead of EV_REL, applications like mokomaze have to be modified. Beyond that, accelerometers work well for me, too. 6.AUTOROTATE SCREEN Simple rotate freezes my freerunner with XGLAMO. No auto-rotate, just a rotate application that I launch from the menu. Sometimes works, sometimes not. I hade to put What I would like to do: -find a usable configuration to use a PIM suite (synchronized with my desktop PC) to replace my Palm TE2. So would I ! I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers. With more time, I'd like it to be fully functionnal =) What windowmanager/panels system are you using ? I'm using matchbox-wm + LXDE (not the best, but fast enough). Regards, -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back
Christophe Badoit a écrit : 6.AUTOROTATE SCREEN Simple rotate freezes my freerunner with XGLAMO. No auto-rotate, just a rotate application that I launch from the menu. Sometimes works, sometimes not. I hade to put Sorry, I didn't finished the line :) I had to put Xft.dpi: 96 in my ~/.Xresources , to prevent the dpi to mess with the fonts after rotations. -- Christophe Badoit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back
Hey Thomas, Thomas Bellembois wrote: I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers. You might want to try hackable:1, which is really Debian with Om2007 telephony software: http://www.hackable1.org/ Cheers, -- Pierre Pronchery, Hackable devices RD, Bearstech email: ppronch...@bearstech.com 42 boulevard Sébastopol PGP: AE49 5F7D D56A 4BD6 7B1F 75003 Paris, France 8655 125C 0FE6 5566 EBD8 Web: http://bearstech.com Phone: +49 177 472 7481 Phone: +33 6 71 62 42 74 Fax: +49 304 208 1861 Fax: +33 1 42 72 20 03 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back
A few mailings back I was told that Zhone is never going to be a proper dialer. Zhone is ment to be a debugging and feature testing application for the FSO framework. I don't think patching Zhone is going to be of any use. I don't know if there is anybody in the debian community who is going to stand up and say: these are the apps we should be working on and this is what the gui should look like. I may even start a thread about that in a few months. I think if you like Edj (the e gui stuff) then you should focus on getting Paroli ported to debian as that is going to be the default for Om2009. (Somebody may even already be working on this) Also, personally, I think screen locking is more important then auto rotating, but any help is welcome. Happy hacking! Bram On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 11:20 +0200, Thomas Bellembois wrote: What I would like to do: -find a usable configuration to use a PIM suite (synchronized with my desktop PC) to replace my Palm TE2. -configure the WIFI -install Navit and buy reiseplaner maps -make the autorotate work -make Zhone fully usable I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back
A few mailings back I was told that Zhone is never going to be a proper dialer. Zhone is ment to be a debugging and feature testing application for the FSO framework. I don't think patching Zhone is going to be of any use. that might be as it will, but so far zhone seems to be the only dialer available for debian based systems -- the limitations imposed upon zhone by the fso developers are not meant to hinder you, to improve it for your needs. i consider developing a dialer gui since i have to do a gui project as part of my corresponce courses, but that's not decided yet. and, yes, i knwo what someone is going to say -- but those projects are meant to do something from scratch, not participate in others developments. I don't know if there is anybody in the debian community who is going to stand up and say: these are the apps we should be working on and this is what the gui should look like. who is supposed to know that? if you think, there should be _one_ list of apps to necessary and _one_ look'n'feel, you'd better switch to one of the more focused projects like shr or 200X. debian is about a huge pool of options, be it desktop managers, toolkits or apps, not streamlining all efforts into _one_. I may even start a thread about that in a few months. well, why not yet? you seem to have some rather clear ideas, given your remarks. I think if you like Edj (the e gui stuff) then you should focus on getting Paroli ported to debian as that is going to be the default for Om2009. (Somebody may even already be working on this) iirc the enlightment stuff is not yet fully available in debian, but work is going on. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back
As you mention, debian may not be the right project to try to focus on a subset of apps. I'll have to retry hackable:1 and try SHR before I start trying to mold a community of like-minded on top of debian ;) I don't think I have enough of an overview to not end up being counter productive. Give it a few months and I should be able to direct my comments to the right people, making it easier on everybody. Happy hacking! Bram On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:37 +0200, arne anka wrote: I may even start a thread about that in a few months. well, why not yet? you seem to have some rather clear ideas, given your remarks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: debian on freerunner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 20.12.2008, 16:32 +0100 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut: Hello Andy and Michael, Thank you for your answers. No I did not use Qi=true!!! But now I did and debian is now up and running from SD! and now there is a new question: I do get an X screen with icons on the top level but there is no Zhone (just a grey screen no desktop) how can I get one. thank and greetings there is a problem with python-evas being out-of-sync with libevas. See the list archives for packages built to work around this, and track http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508697 to see when this is fixed. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer nome...@debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: nome...@joachim-breitner.de | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian on freerunner
Hi, Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 22:22 schrieb Andy Green: Is this /boot on that partition mounted on /boot on another partition then? Qi makes the assumption that the partition the kernel is coming from is the rootfs. Yes on the standard Debian installation the /boot is on /dev/mmcblk0p1 while the rootfs is on /dev/mmcblk0p2. And with the kernel-parameter root= in the append--GTAXX you can overwrite this parameter which is hardcoded in the code. Last one wins:) greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: debian on freerunner
Hello Andy and Michael, Thank you for your answers. No I did not use Qi=true!!! But now I did and debian is now up and running from SD! and now there is a new question: I do get an X screen with icons on the top level but there is no Zhone (just a grey screen no desktop) how can I get one. thank and greetings, Jos Michael wrote: Hi, Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut: I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ? on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin this files should be in /boot/boot. did this all by following the debian wikki ... debian-gta02:~# cd /boot debian-gta02:/boot# mkdir boot debian-gta02:/boot# ln -s ../uImage.bin boot/uImage-GTA02.bin debian-gta02:/boot# echo root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 loglevel=8 boot/append-GTA02 ... greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian on freerunner
Hi, Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut: I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ? on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin this files should be in /boot/boot. did this all by following the debian wikki ... debian-gta02:~# cd /boot debian-gta02:/boot# mkdir boot debian-gta02:/boot# ln -s ../uImage.bin boot/uImage-GTA02.bin debian-gta02:/boot# echo root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 loglevel=8 boot/append-GTA02 ... greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian on freerunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, | | Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut: | I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script: | wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh | with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ? | | on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot | in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin | this files should be in /boot/boot. Is this /boot on that partition mounted on /boot on another partition then? Qi makes the assumption that the partition the kernel is coming from is the rootfs. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklMEKgACgkQOjLpvpq7dMr+7QCfeEMftyYHIQ4GDNmFUDT1W+40 olMAn0T7esfKEVByfEqBNKbn18NFsy6s =vIYX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
debian on freerunner
Hello, I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh I use Qi latest by Andy on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin did this all by following the debian wikki after reboot just 2 rules and blinking cursor, after some time booting qt-extend from flash. Who can help me out, what a'm I doing wrong? thanks Jos. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian on freerunner
Hi Jos, could it be that your root-filesystem was not unmounted cleanly ? At first boot, system will do a FS-check followed by a reboot. Reboot wil use the default, being your Qt from flash? F!L!P. On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:53:43 +0100, Jos vd Snepscheut j...@snepscheut.nl wrote: Hello, I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script: wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh I use Qi latest by Andy on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin did this all by following the debian wikki after reboot just 2 rules and blinking cursor, after some time booting qt-extend from flash. Who can help me out, what a'm I doing wrong? thanks Jos. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian on Freerunner?
Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image neither a kernel, nor a rootfs... but i would like to have Debian on my phone... ciao, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner?
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 14.08.2008, 20:06 +0200 schrieb Arne Zachlod: Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image neither a kernel, nor a rootfs... but i would like to have Debian on my phone... please be patient for (hopefully)less than a day, there will be an official annoucement regarding debian and Freerunner. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner?
read here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian 2008/8/14 Arne Zachlod [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image neither a kernel, nor a rootfs... but i would like to have Debian on my phone... ciao, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner?
i don't like to be patient can u say me where i can find the statement tomorrow? i want to be informed as early as possible... and i cant see my mails at work ;)- so some more information as tomorrow would be great :) ciao, Arne Joachim Breitner schrieb: Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 14.08.2008, 20:06 +0200 schrieb Arne Zachlod: Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image neither a kernel, nor a rootfs... but i would like to have Debian on my phone... please be patient for (hopefully)less than a day, there will be an official annoucement regarding debian and Freerunner. Greetings, Joachim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Hi, Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily. If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set INHERIT += package_deb (in your local.conf) and then it will build .deb packages as well. Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set INHERIT += package_deb (in your local.conf) and then it will build .deb packages as well. well, _that's_ nice. coulöd someone please put it in wiki/debian? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Wow that sounds neat! How hard would it be to create an apt repository on the openmoko build host using this? Then we could just edit a config and run apt-get ^.^ On Friday 08 August 2008 04:30:17 Robert Schuster wrote: Hi, Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily. If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set INHERIT += package_deb (in your local.conf) and then it will build .deb packages as well. Regards Robert -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Wow that sounds neat! How hard would it be to create an apt | repository on the openmoko build host using this? Then we could just | edit a config and run apt-get ^.^ They're ahead of you, except we aren't hosting it afaik... the Debian image comes with aptitude http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ set up already -- in my Fedora-centric terms this is like having yum with the default repo already configured... it's great. I guess it is the whole Debian packageset out there and everything is configured for desktop / server strength options. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkicUqIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqRQwCfd7dxUr8+bzBzBi+rzTNZ27bt 0ooAn2rKQO45QTyOErLCHOKRe5j/qUT6 =F29B -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
On Friday 08 August 2008 10:05:22 Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Wow that sounds neat! How hard would it be to create an apt | repository on the openmoko build host using this? Then we could just | edit a config and run apt-get ^.^ They're ahead of you, except we aren't hosting it afaik... the Debian image comes with aptitude http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ set up already -- in my Fedora-centric terms this is like having yum with the default repo already configured... it's great. I guess it is the whole Debian packageset out there and everything is configured for desktop / server strength options. -Andy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yeah what I'd like to see is the openmoko packages (like illume and qtopia-x11 and such) ending up in an apt repository. Currently they're only built as .ipk feeds. -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Hi,
Daniel Benoy schrieb:
Wow that sounds neat! How hard would it be to create an apt repository on
the openmoko build host using this? Then we could just edit a config and run
apt-get ^.^
It is not hard. In fact for Jalimo we are packaging OE-built packages
for Maemo: http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/maemo/
You can find information on how to set up a repo on the Debian website.
Basically you have to set up the correct folders and then run the
following programs across it:
dpkg-scanpackages -a armel pool/${1} /dev/null | gzip -c9
dists/${1}/user/binary-armel/Packages.gz
dpkg-scansources pool/${1} /dev/null | gzip -c9
dists/${1}/user/binary-armel/Sources.gz
${1} is the distro name. That would be 2008.08 for the OpenMoko OS. :)
However you should know that OpenMoko is tailored to work with opkg. I
am not sure what will break if you use dpkg and apt-get/aptitude on it.
I would also modify the openmoko image definition to not include opkg
and instead apt. Angstrom - the distro - OpenMoko is derived from - has
support for .deb packages. Perhaps the easiest way is to look how it is
done there.
Btw: OE can also create RPMs. :)
Regards
Robert
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Hello, After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to install this on my microSD card: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is totally flaky. After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this from the terminal over the USB-connection: export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0 export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 ts_calibrate I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch. Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and many other things, but unsuccessfully. Any idea? Thanks in advance, Gregoire PS: In case, you ask: more /etc/ts.conf # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d # module_raw collie # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860 # module_raw corgi # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS interface # module_raw ucb1x00 # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar # module_raw h3600 # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad # module_raw mk712 # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II # module_raw arctic2 module pthres pmin=1 module variance delta=30 module dejitter delta=100 module linear ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello, | | After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to | install this on my microSD card: | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian | | I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is | totally flaky. | | After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install | libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this | from the terminal over the USB-connection: | | export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal | export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf | export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts | export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0 | export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none | export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 | ts_calibrate Thanks for sharing. | I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I | run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still | totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best | case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch. Huh, sounds a bit like this https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1244#comment:35 URL points to the apparent fix for some cases. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkibI8YACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoo1wCeKgdsFgic/FOktcaSDNlnpos6 kB8An2qi3lv5LX9nRMuCdrZ5TNTCaVEU =Xk+g -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe) That worked for me. :) Hope that helps. I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes. On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:20:11 Gregoire Gentil wrote: Hello, After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to install this on my microSD card: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is totally flaky. After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this from the terminal over the USB-connection: export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0 export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 ts_calibrate I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch. Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and many other things, but unsuccessfully. Any idea? Thanks in advance, Gregoire PS: In case, you ask: more /etc/ts.conf # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d # module_raw collie # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860 # module_raw corgi # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS interface # module_raw ucb1x00 # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar # module_raw h3600 # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad # module_raw mk712 # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II # module_raw arctic2 module pthres pmin=1 module variance delta=30 module dejitter delta=100 module linear ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community p -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted | from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe) | | That worked for me. :) Hope that helps. | | I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. | I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with | opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes. Well, Debian currently doesn't make it a phone, but if that's not what you're doing with the device it makes a lot of sense, full servers and utils, relatively standard build and package system, etc. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkibK+oACgkQOjLpvpq7dMouqgCggUvFnC/nh1pBFRiOFJs7Im/m W7IAn3ZFBxXZHcWlz7l6bTrJk5pYp1/g =Pp7x -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Daniel, Thanks for the answer. It's not working for me. I don't have any more the delta but there is a scale problem (top left corner matches but bottom right corner doesn't at all). Can you please copy paste your /etc/ts.conf and /etc/pointercal here? Thanks, Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:01 -0400, Daniel Benoy wrote: I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe) That worked for me. :) Hope that helps. I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes. On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:20:11 Gregoire Gentil wrote: Hello, After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to install this on my microSD card: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is totally flaky. After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this from the terminal over the USB-connection: export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0 export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 ts_calibrate I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch. Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and many other things, but unsuccessfully. Any idea? Thanks in advance, Gregoire PS: In case, you ask: more /etc/ts.conf # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d # module_raw collie # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860 # module_raw corgi # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS interface # module_raw ucb1x00 # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar # module_raw h3600 # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad # module_raw mk712 # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II # module_raw arctic2 module pthres pmin=1 module variance delta=30 module dejitter delta=100 module linear ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
What I'm hoping for, is that the openmoko folks use the same software but start making .deb packages instead of .ipk ones :) So that it would be a phone. Although the worry, I suppose, is that the 256MB of internal flash wouldn't be pleased with Debian's full bash shell and such. Perhaps the solution is for someone to volunteer to become a 'package manager' for Debian and produce .deb packages software like illume and the FSO components and such (Straight from git version control or whatever). Maybe I will give it a try at some point. (Or perhaps I'd try doing the same thing only with Gentoo). In order for this to be possible, the openmoko team must have carefully ensured that their packages are autonomous, and they don't require extensive modifications to the source of other software (i.e. Hopefully they didn't put any special stuff into the X server, or whatever.) On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:07:54 Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted | from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe) | | That worked for me. :) Hope that helps. | | I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. | I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with | opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes. Well, Debian currently doesn't make it a phone, but if that's not what you're doing with the device it makes a lot of sense, full servers and utils, relatively standard build and package system, etc. -Andy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Guys, Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not the only one to have this problem according to the forums. It will confuse people to discuss two different topics on the same topic. Thanks! Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:25 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes. Indeed. It would be nice if you could then apt-get the openmoko specific parts so that you could also make calls. How hard would it be package these for debian? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacing Openembedded with Debian for Openmoko (was: Debian on FreeRunner)
It's ours now sucker! hahahah! On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:27:15 Gregoire Gentil wrote: Guys, Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not the only one to have this problem according to the forums. It will confuse people to discuss two different topics on the same topic. Thanks! Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:25 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes. Indeed. It would be nice if you could then apt-get the openmoko specific parts so that you could also make calls. How hard would it be package these for debian? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacing Openembedded with Debian for Openmoko (was: Debian on FreeRunner)
Thanks! And I do vote for this BTW... Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:36 -0400, Daniel Benoy wrote: It's ours now sucker! hahahah! On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:27:15 Gregoire Gentil wrote: Guys, Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not the only one to have this problem according to the forums. It will confuse people to discuss two different topics on the same topic. Thanks! Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:25 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes. Indeed. It would be nice if you could then apt-get the openmoko specific parts so that you could also make calls. How hard would it be package these for debian? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /mnt/debian/etc/pointercal 557 38667 -4654632 -51172 121 46965312 65536 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /mnt/debian/etc/ts.conf # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d # module_raw collie # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860 # module_raw corgi # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS interface # module_raw ucb1x00 # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar # module_raw h3600 # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad # module_raw mk712 # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II # module_raw arctic2 module pthres pmin=1 module variance delta=30 module dejitter delta=100 module linear [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# diff /etc/pointercal /mnt/debian/etc/pointercal [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# diff /etc/ts.conf /mnt/debian/etc/ts.conf --- /etc/ts.confWed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969 +++ /mnt/debian/etc/ts.conf Sun Feb 3 15:05:58 2008 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface -module_raw input grab_events=1 +module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d # module_raw collie On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:21:30 Gregoire Gentil wrote: Daniel, Thanks for the answer. It's not working for me. I don't have any more the delta but there is a scale problem (top left corner matches but bottom right corner doesn't at all). Can you please copy paste your /etc/ts.conf and /etc/pointercal here? Thanks, Grégoire On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:01 -0400, Daniel Benoy wrote: I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe) That worked for me. :) Hope that helps. I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes. On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:20:11 Gregoire Gentil wrote: Hello, After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to install this on my microSD card: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is totally flaky. After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this from the terminal over the USB-connection: export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0 export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 ts_calibrate I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch. Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and many other things, but unsuccessfully. Any idea? Thanks in advance, Gregoire PS: In case, you ask: more /etc/ts.conf # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d # module_raw collie # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860 # module_raw corgi # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS interface # module_raw ucb1x00 # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar # module_raw h3600 # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad # module_raw mk712 # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II # module_raw arctic2 module pthres pmin=1 module variance delta=30 module dejitter delta=100 module linear ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community p -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'm hoping for, is that the openmoko folks use the same software but start making .deb packages instead of .ipk ones :) So that it would be a phone. Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily. Although the worry, I suppose, is that the 256MB of internal flash wouldn't be pleased with Debian's full bash shell and such. See www.emdebian.org ensured that their packages are autonomous, and they don't require extensive modifications to the source of other software Exactly my thoughts! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
well -- bringing openmoko's changes and novel packages into emdebian port [0] sounds like a great task which many would appreciate. It might be worth inquiring [1] people on suggestions and plausibility/interest of such a project. Then indeed it might become a point that we could simply run the best OS on our phones as well supporting all the phone features ;-) if someone jumps to package things for emdebian, and those packages are forth to appear in the mainline Debian (some parts of matchbox are in the mainline I believe), I could spare some time for sponsoring their uploads into Debian, so your efforts don't vanish due to decentralization. [0] http://www.emdebian.org/ [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/ -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
On Thursday 07 August 2008 14:35:03 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: well -- bringing openmoko's changes and novel packages into emdebian port [0] sounds like a great task which many would appreciate. It might be worth inquiring [1] people on suggestions and plausibility/interest of such a project. Then indeed it might become a point that we could simply run the best OS on our phones as well supporting all the phone features ;-) if someone jumps to package things for emdebian, and those packages are forth to appear in the mainline Debian (some parts of matchbox are in the mainline I believe), I could spare some time for sponsoring their uploads into Debian, so your efforts don't vanish due to decentralization. [0] http://www.emdebian.org/ [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/ Openmoko could also create their own apt repository which could be added to the apt configs. That is probably the best solution for now, if they're interested, because it could be built from git every night just like the opkg feeds, without polluting debian's official tree(s) with highly alpha code. (Something similar can be done under gentoo with portage tree overlays, and I imagine fedora/yum has a way too) Nothing's stopping someone with a server from making their own apt repository that grabs from git as well, if they're willing to undertake the task. I would rather it be official though, because it would discourage (by necessity) distribution dependency by the paid developers. But if they don't have time for that then I'm sure someone will pick up the slack :) Maybe me. -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Hi! Thanks for sharing the information! I managed to get calibration right by copying the xglamo and libts.0* files from 2007.2 image to debian and starting xfce via ssh. It worked then with the standard /etc/pointercal from the 2007.2 image. But I then had the problem, that gdm didn't recognize the ts anymore at all and only if I started xfce by ssh did it recognize the ts. Mysterious problems, but I am sure that they will be solved soon! good luck, edistar On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Gregoire Gentil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to install this on my microSD card: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is totally flaky. After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this from the terminal over the USB-connection: export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0 export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 ts_calibrate I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch. Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and many other things, but unsuccessfully. Any idea? Thanks in advance, Gregoire PS: In case, you ask: more /etc/ts.conf # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface module_raw input # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d # module_raw collie # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860 # module_raw corgi # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS interface # module_raw ucb1x00 # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar # module_raw h3600 # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad # module_raw mk712 # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II # module_raw arctic2 module pthres pmin=1 module variance delta=30 module dejitter delta=100 module linear ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
debian on freerunner: gsmd?
reagrding debian on freerunner -- is there a way to access the gsm modem, ie to make/recieve calls, send/recieve sms and use gprs? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another Question / Ext3 SD and Debian on Freerunner
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Awesome, nobody ever mentioned this marvel... got to give this a try
| tonight!
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| let us know how it turned out!
Well there is good and bad news, good news is thanks to Mike Montour
ext3 SD boot in U-Boot works fine now, and again thanks to him updated
U-Boot packages including this and all our git patches will be available
in the next day or two.
You just do the usual mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdX1 on the SD Card, untar the
rootfs and also copy a uImage.bin from a current kernel on there in /.
You can boot it from U-Boot with this
setenv bootcmd mmcinit \; ext2load mmc 1 0x3200 uImage.bin \; setenv
bootargs \${mtdparts} rootfstype=ext3 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1
console=ttySAC2,115200 loglevel=4 ro \; bootm 0x3200 ; boot
That's very nice to see, previously we had to use a little FAT partition
at the start so U-Boot could get the kernel.
However, the Debian rootfs didn't work right away, it mounted the ext3
rootfs and ran init, but complained unable to open an initial console,
I think this is an insufficiently populated /dev so I will meddle on a bit.
- -Andy
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Re: Another Question / Ext3 SD and Debian on Freerunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | However, the Debian rootfs didn't work right away, it mounted the ext3 | rootfs and ran init, but complained unable to open an initial console, | I think this is an insufficiently populated /dev so I will meddle on a bit. I followed the instructions more carefully and I can boot into Debian runlevel 3 OK :-) Very nice. It's the real deal and it doesn't feel that slow yet (runlevel 5 might be a different story). The main thing missing from the instructions is you have to have an internet route out from the phone to do it as it is currently set up. The tarball they give you is just a skeleton that they upack packages into before it is bootable. I used the WLAN to give it the internet access and it was fine. This certainly shows a lot of promise! - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiDwYUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqxCQCfeh1Vzm+tM8BpFxG99cGL+OWb iuMAn0Dn+r3Zg+KmQLpRwI05nqv975LK =9vkE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another Question / Ext3 SD and Debian on Freerunner
Does it include Ekiga? Joseph 2008/7/20 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | However, the Debian rootfs didn't work right away, it mounted the ext3 | rootfs and ran init, but complained unable to open an initial console, | I think this is an insufficiently populated /dev so I will meddle on a bit. I followed the instructions more carefully and I can boot into Debian runlevel 3 OK :-) Very nice. It's the real deal and it doesn't feel that slow yet (runlevel 5 might be a different story). The main thing missing from the instructions is you have to have an internet route out from the phone to do it as it is currently set up. The tarball they give you is just a skeleton that they upack packages into before it is bootable. I used the WLAN to give it the internet access and it was fine. This certainly shows a lot of promise! - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiDwYUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqxCQCfeh1Vzm+tM8BpFxG99cGL+OWb iuMAn0Dn+r3Zg+KmQLpRwI05nqv975LK =9vkE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another Question / Ext3 SD and Debian on Freerunner
Yes that is correct. The other problem is the /etc/pointercal ... I've yet to figure a way to calibrate ts On 7/20/08 3:51 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | However, the Debian rootfs didn't work right away, it mounted the ext3 | rootfs and ran init, but complained unable to open an initial console, | I think this is an insufficiently populated /dev so I will meddle on a bit. I followed the instructions more carefully and I can boot into Debian runlevel 3 OK :-) Very nice. It's the real deal and it doesn't feel that slow yet (runlevel 5 might be a different story). The main thing missing from the instructions is you have to have an internet route out from the phone to do it as it is currently set up. The tarball they give you is just a skeleton that they upack packages into before it is bootable. I used the WLAN to give it the internet access and it was fine. This certainly shows a lot of promise! - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiDwYUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqxCQCfeh1Vzm+tM8BpFxG99cGL+OWb iuMAn0Dn+r3Zg+KmQLpRwI05nqv975LK =9vkE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Gino O'Donnell / Director Seattle Web Creations, LLC 206.883.7601 SeattleWebCreations.com Website Design with Search Engines in Mind ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another Question / Ext3 SD and Debian on Freerunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Yes that is correct. | | The other problem is the /etc/pointercal ... I've yet to figure a way to | calibrate ts Ah tslib has a ts_calibrate applet that spits the numbers out. I should think Debian has tslib... - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiDySQACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpnnQCfT/riWWENccHajtIZbEG7eV9I l1UAniO54lzEdeYGlOOFaoezh8BT0VDA =9uqp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another Question / Ext3 SD and Debian on Freerunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Does it include Ekiga? The recipe includes just some basic packages, but because it includes aptitude, which is basically yum (sorry, Fedora person), it means you have pretty much the whole undiluted Debian package universe. So I would think it would include Ekiga. And these packages are the real deal, everything like ping for example is non-busybox with all the trimmings. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiDyjIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMraMwCfTx2HDGFos6/kLPfJPEfRK12E 8PUAn109uQg7pF3WrXfq+o+xEJf02n5D =LHmQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
