[QTMoko]: Handwriting recognition and graffiti-like writing?
Guys, quick one for y'all.. Has anyone out there successfully trained (or patched) the handwriting recognition in QTMoko to recognise the old Palm-style graffiti (preferrably Graffiti version 1!) I'll try training it today, but if someones actually patched the code I'd love to hear about it. Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
shr-testing 20090502: enlightenment was unable to run the application enscribi the application failed to start Zinnia and Zinnia-tomoe-zh installed On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote: Fantastic news... let me know if there's anything I can do! Russ 2009/5/13 Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote: Hi Olof, any chance of having english support added to this? Otherwise (as a non-hacker) can I contribute anything that'd support you in adding english support? Hi, There's nothing stopping adding english support. I thought about adding it myself. The only thing you need is stroke data for all the letters, which are not so many for English. Then it would be possible to make a new theme for English input as well (the letters are not as large and complicated as for Japanese and Chinese, so you can get away with a smaller drawing area for each letter). So what's needed is stroke data for all the letters. I'm currently experimenting with writing a stroke editor so it's easy to add new characters. When this is done it would be quite simple to add new characters. You'd just have to draw all the letters. I'm currently on a business trip and wan't be able to work in it for now, but when it's ready I'll post info about here on the mailing list. At best, I'd say a few weeks from now, but that depends on how much free time I get. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:00 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: shr-testing 20090502: enlightenment was unable to run the application enscribi the application failed to start Zinnia and Zinnia-tomoe-zh installed Could you try to run it from the command line? There might be some relevant error message there. Open up the terminal, run enscribi and post any output here. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
yop, error loading shared libraries: libecore_evas.so.0 ill look for an installer for that and try again later tonight. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:00 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: shr-testing 20090502: enlightenment was unable to run the application enscribi the application failed to start Zinnia and Zinnia-tomoe-zh installed Could you try to run it from the command line? There might be some relevant error message there. Open up the terminal, run enscribi and post any output here. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
so after searching for a bit i am failing to find a link for libecore_evas.so.0 as an ipk. closest mention is this: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2587826i60 but i find no link. any ideas out there? On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: yop, error loading shared libraries: libecore_evas.so.0 ill look for an installer for that and try again later tonight. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:00 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: shr-testing 20090502: enlightenment was unable to run the application enscribi the application failed to start Zinnia and Zinnia-tomoe-zh installed Could you try to run it from the command line? There might be some relevant error message there. Open up the terminal, run enscribi and post any output here. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:44 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: so after searching for a bit i am failing to find a link for libecore_evas.so.0 as an ipk. closest mention is this: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2587826i60 but i find no link. any ideas out there? I think it should be the package named ecore-evas. I'm on a business trip, so I don't have access to my freerunner and can't confirm this, but now that I think about it the efl libraries changed version recently. So I think Enscribi has to be recompiled for this version. I'll take a look at it and will put together a new package when I get home (will probably have time sometime early next week). Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Hi Olof, any chance of having english support added to this? Otherwise (as a non-hacker) can I contribute anything that'd support you in adding english support? Russ 2009/2/14 Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote: Hi Olof, any chance of having english support added to this? Otherwise (as a non-hacker) can I contribute anything that'd support you in adding english support? Hi, There's nothing stopping adding english support. I thought about adding it myself. The only thing you need is stroke data for all the letters, which are not so many for English. Then it would be possible to make a new theme for English input as well (the letters are not as large and complicated as for Japanese and Chinese, so you can get away with a smaller drawing area for each letter). So what's needed is stroke data for all the letters. I'm currently experimenting with writing a stroke editor so it's easy to add new characters. When this is done it would be quite simple to add new characters. You'd just have to draw all the letters. I'm currently on a business trip and wan't be able to work in it for now, but when it's ready I'll post info about here on the mailing list. At best, I'd say a few weeks from now, but that depends on how much free time I get. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Fantastic news... let me know if there's anything I can do! Russ 2009/5/13 Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote: Hi Olof, any chance of having english support added to this? Otherwise (as a non-hacker) can I contribute anything that'd support you in adding english support? Hi, There's nothing stopping adding english support. I thought about adding it myself. The only thing you need is stroke data for all the letters, which are not so many for English. Then it would be possible to make a new theme for English input as well (the letters are not as large and complicated as for Japanese and Chinese, so you can get away with a smaller drawing area for each letter). So what's needed is stroke data for all the letters. I'm currently experimenting with writing a stroke editor so it's easy to add new characters. When this is done it would be quite simple to add new characters. You'd just have to draw all the letters. I'm currently on a business trip and wan't be able to work in it for now, but when it's ready I'll post info about here on the mailing list. At best, I'd say a few weeks from now, but that depends on how much free time I get. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
I am going to look into the tomoe project. but for your patch... I am sorry. I haven't managed to build the FSO/SHR image on my Ubuntu 8.04. It seems that there is always some git repository not available. I don't know whether it's the problem of the network or not. Anyway, Now, I am not lucky with build FSO/SHR images...not happy with this Hope someone could help test your patch... On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad there's a lot of interest in this. =) As for the poor results for Chinese characters, I suspect the character data for Chinese is not perfect. Personally I don't know any Chinese, so it's hard for me to check. However, for Japanese it works quite well, but there are some characters that are missing and have to be added. The data for the characters are from the Tomoe project (another handwriting recognition method), available at http://tomoe.sourceforge.jp. They also have a stroke editor that can be used to edit/add new characters. Yesterday I found and fixed the problem with inputting in Edje entry widgets. I sent the patch to the enlightenment devel list, but have attached it here as well for anyone interested in testing it. Patching and recompiling Ecore should make it possible to write in any program using Elementary or Edje. There's still a lot to improve, and any suggestions or patches are appreciated. Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Hi HouYu, I guess you found out that it doesn't work with Messages already. I was busy reflashing the Neo to the latest. Glad you found something else that works though. I'm also interested in what you are doing and will take a look at Tomoe after school today. --Alex On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:18 AM, HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote: I am going to look into the tomoe project. but for your patch... I am sorry. I haven't managed to build the FSO/SHR image on my Ubuntu 8.04. It seems that there is always some git repository not available. I don't know whether it's the problem of the network or not. Anyway, Now, I am not lucky with build FSO/SHR images...not happy with this Hope someone could help test your patch... On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad there's a lot of interest in this. =) As for the poor results for Chinese characters, I suspect the character data for Chinese is not perfect. Personally I don't know any Chinese, so it's hard for me to check. However, for Japanese it works quite well, but there are some characters that are missing and have to be added. The data for the characters are from the Tomoe project (another handwriting recognition method), available at http://tomoe.sourceforge.jp. They also have a stroke editor that can be used to edit/add new characters. Yesterday I found and fixed the problem with inputting in Edje entry widgets. I sent the patch to the enlightenment devel list, but have attached it here as well for anyone interested in testing it. Patching and recompiling Ecore should make it possible to write in any program using Elementary or Edje. There's still a lot to improve, and any suggestions or patches are appreciated. Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Hi, On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, xiangfu xian...@openmoko.org wrote: i just install Enscribi then: r...@om-gta02:~#enscribi Enscribi: _cb_move then nothing. the rootfs is FSO milestone 5 I should have explained better. After you install encsribi, first click on the Illume top bar, then on the wrench in the upper left corner. Then, click on Keyboard. There you can choose Enscribi instead of the default keyboard. Then Enscribi will show up whenever the keyboard is shown. Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi Olof, It looks good. I have installed it on SHR and set it up as keyboard, it works! Sometimes when I draw near the edge of the writing block and cross in and out of bounds twice, Enscribi will crash and I have to restart X to bring it back. It also pops up and error on booting up after I've set it to the default keyboard, though it will still work after that. I will continue to play with it. Thanks for it, --Alex On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, xiangfu xian...@openmoko.org wrote: i just install Enscribi then: r...@om-gta02:~#enscribi Enscribi: _cb_move then nothing. the rootfs is FSO milestone 5 I should have explained better. After you install encsribi, first click on the Illume top bar, then on the wrench in the upper left corner. Then, click on Keyboard. There you can choose Enscribi instead of the default keyboard. Then Enscribi will show up whenever the keyboard is shown. Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
really great ! I had been looking for this for a long time ! I can't succeed writing 好 (hao), but I guess it is due to my poor Chinese character writing skills. gui On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 09:51 +0100, Olof Sjobergh wrote: Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Actually. The recognition is somehow ... poor... On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Guillaume Chereau char...@openmoko.orgwrote: really great ! I had been looking for this for a long time ! I can't succeed writing 好 (hao), but I guess it is due to my poor Chinese character writing skills. gui On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 09:51 +0100, Olof Sjobergh wrote: Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Most of the other characters I tried worked, only the 好 was a problem, so it is not too bad already :) I remember once I tried a similar software running on windows with a graphic tablet (forgot the name of it) and I was unable to write any character at all, but other people who could write Chinese properly had no problem. On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:54 +0800, HouYu Li wrote: Actually. The recognition is somehow ... poor... On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Guillaume Chereau char...@openmoko.org wrote: really great ! I had been looking for this for a long time ! I can't succeed writing 好 (hao), but I guess it is due to my poor Chinese character writing skills. gui On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 09:51 +0100, Olof Sjobergh wrote: Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, I guess the manner/precedence of the strokes are written are important for that software you used previously? Quite interesting to have a non-cjk develop this though. I'm quite impressed with the zinnia recognition engine. KP On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Guillaume Chereau char...@openmoko.org wrote: Most of the other characters I tried worked, only the 好 was a problem, so it is not too bad already :) I remember once I tried a similar software running on windows with a graphic tablet (forgot the name of it) and I was unable to write any character at all, but other people who could write Chinese properly had no problem. On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:54 +0800, HouYu Li wrote: Actually. The recognition is somehow ... poor... On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Guillaume Chereau char...@openmoko.org wrote: really great ! I had been looking for this for a long time ! I can't succeed writing 好 (hao), but I guess it is due to my poor Chinese character writing skills. gui On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 09:51 +0100, Olof Sjobergh wrote: Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Hi, Everyone... Tested with SHR 20090215 build. Not work in the default message application (openmoko-message3). But work with yphonekitd. You can find it here: http://www.opkg.org/package_109.html. Now I can send Chinese messages to my friends. oops.. how can I input a commer??? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Kiam Peng Wee wee.kiamp...@orangeknob.comwrote: Hi, I guess the manner/precedence of the strokes are written are important for that software you used previously? Quite interesting to have a non-cjk develop this though. I'm quite impressed with the zinnia recognition engine. KP On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Guillaume Chereau char...@openmoko.org wrote: Most of the other characters I tried worked, only the 好 was a problem, so it is not too bad already :) I remember once I tried a similar software running on windows with a graphic tablet (forgot the name of it) and I was unable to write any character at all, but other people who could write Chinese properly had no problem. On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:54 +0800, HouYu Li wrote: Actually. The recognition is somehow ... poor... On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Guillaume Chereau char...@openmoko.org wrote: really great ! I had been looking for this for a long time ! I can't succeed writing 好 (hao), but I guess it is due to my poor Chinese character writing skills. gui On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 09:51 +0100, Olof Sjobergh wrote: Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Does it work at OM 2008.9 ? I install it on Om 2008. 9 , but I don't know how to initiate it . Olof Sjobergh ??: Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
I'm glad there's a lot of interest in this. =) As for the poor results for Chinese characters, I suspect the character data for Chinese is not perfect. Personally I don't know any Chinese, so it's hard for me to check. However, for Japanese it works quite well, but there are some characters that are missing and have to be added. The data for the characters are from the Tomoe project (another handwriting recognition method), available at http://tomoe.sourceforge.jp. They also have a stroke editor that can be used to edit/add new characters. Yesterday I found and fixed the problem with inputting in Edje entry widgets. I sent the patch to the enlightenment devel list, but have attached it here as well for anyone interested in testing it. Patching and recompiling Ecore should make it possible to write in any program using Elementary or Edje. There's still a lot to improve, and any suggestions or patches are appreciated. Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ecore_x_event_mapping_notify.patch Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Cool. On Feb 14, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Olof Sjobergh wrote: Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Hi, It's a nice start... XiangFu! Have you tried it? I just installed these packages on FSO latest stable. It does recognize input although not that precisely. But it does not able to input the Chinese character into the zhone message input area. My question is: Do we need extra configuration?? On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:14 PM, xiangfu xian...@openmoko.org wrote: Cool. On Feb 14, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Olof Sjobergh wrote: Hi, This is to announce the first release of Enscribi, a new handwriting recognition input method I've been working on. The main focus, and the only thing supported for now, is writing Japanese and Chinese characters (and numbers, but numbers only won't get you far...). It uses the excellent Zinnia recognition engine for the actual recognition. If anyone is interested, please take a look. There's a project page at http://olofsj.github.com/enscribi/ with screenshots and some more information. There are packages on opkg.org for trying it out (only tested on FSO milestone 5). The following packages are available: http://www.opkg.org/package_133.htmlEnscribi http://www.opkg.org/package_130.htmlZinnia (required dependency) http://www.opkg.org/package_131.htmlZinnia-tomoe-ja (for Japanese support) http://www.opkg.org/package_132.htmlZinnia-tomoe-zh (for Chinese support) Also, you need a Japanese or Chinese font to see the characters (should be available in the usual repos). The code is hosted on Github at http://github.com/olofsj/enscribi/tree/master Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It's a nice start... XiangFu! Have you tried it? I just installed these packages on FSO latest stable. It does recognize input although not that precisely. But it does not able to input the Chinese character into the zhone message input area. My question is: Do we need extra configuration?? Hi, Edje, that is used by zhone, does not support inputting multi-byte characters, so inputting in Zhone won't work for now. This has to be added to Edje, which I'll try to do. Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
Hi On Feb 15, 2009, at 12:21 AM, Olof Sjobergh wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It's a nice start... XiangFu! Have you tried it? I just installed these packages on FSO latest i just install Enscribi then: r...@om-gta02:~#enscribi Enscribi: _cb_move then nothing. the rootfs is FSO milestone 5 stable. It does recognize input although not that precisely. But it does not able to input the Chinese character into the zhone message input area. My question is: Do we need extra configuration?? Hi, Edje, that is used by zhone, does not support inputting multi-byte characters, so inputting in Zhone won't work for now. This has to be added to Edje, which I'll try to do. Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QWO (was Re: handwriting recognition)
On Thu January 15 2009 3:06:37 pm Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 20:38, Josh Thompson om-c...@joshandbianca.net wrote: Anyone know how to make it show up in SHR? Check .desktop file if have Keyboard (but i'm not sure that it's correct name) category, and select it in Keyboard menu after clicking Illume's wrench on top shelf. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Thanks - that's what I needed! I've started using qwo and really like it. Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
haven't tried it, but there is also Strokerecog: https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/strokerecog/ On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: there's rosetta http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso. but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned. another attempt is cellwriter http://risujin.org/cellwriter which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now, have to try it come weekend. both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every single hand. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
There is also matchbox-stroke. It's in the openmoko repos. Just do: opkg install matchbox-stroke. I tried it on Om2008.12 and I like it. But the configuration file is incomplete, so it's impossible to enter many letters and characters. Even space was not configured, I configured it manually in the configuration file. So if someone would write a good configuration file for it, it should be usable. Matchbox-stroke puts a white space on the bottom of the screen. You don't need so much space to write a character. I think we could use the combination of handwriting and buttons. Maybe something like this - http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2745/strokemg2.png (I made it with GIMP). The @#$ button would display an onscreen keyboard to enter special characters (because I tink its hard to remember the strokes for all the characters) and the mode button would toggle between number mode, lower case mode and upper case mode. I tink this should be usable with fingers too. I would do this myself, but I can't code :( I think that if we had a good handwriting recognition program, all the keyboard problems would be solved. At least for me. Because I used to have Sony Ericsson P800 and I really liked it's handwriting recognition. I could hold the phone in my hand and write the characters with the same hand's thumb. I lost the stylus of my P800 long time ago and I wasn't missing it at all. On Debian I tried cellwriter too. It works really good, but it's only usable with stylus. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: haven't tried it, but there is also Strokerecog: https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/strokerecog/ On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: there's rosetta http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso. but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned. another attempt is cellwriter http://risujin.org/cellwriter which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now, have to try it come weekend. both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every single hand. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
qwo is on the way to debian... that's nice to hear. could you have an eye on the deps? just for fun i looked at cellwriter and dasher, and they pull in dependencies totally occupying 20.1MB and 58.4MB respectiveley -- mostly because of heavy dependencies of that fat gnome stuff: debian-gta02:~# apt-get install cellwriter Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: gconf2 gnome-mime-data libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-glib1 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common Suggested packages: libbonobo2-bin desktop-base libgnomevfs2-bin fam Recommended packages: libgnomevfs2-extra gnome-mount The following NEW packages will be installed: cellwriter gconf2 gnome-mime-data libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-glib1 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common 0 upgraded, 13 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 4524kB of archives. After this operation, 20.1MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n debian-gta02:~# apt-get install dasher Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: at-spi dasher-data espeak-data gconf2 gnome-mime-data libart-2.0-2 libatspi1.0-0 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-glib1 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libespeak1 libgail-common libgail18 libglade2-0 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome-speech7 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libportaudio2 libxevie1 Suggested packages: libbonobo2-bin desktop-base gnome-icon-theme libgnomevfs2-bin fam Recommended packages: espeak gnome-keyring festival libgnomevfs2-extra gnome-mount The following NEW packages will be installed: at-spi dasher dasher-data espeak-data gconf2 gnome-mime-data libart-2.0-2 libatspi1.0-0 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-glib1 libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libespeak1 libgail-common libgail18 libglade2-0 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome-speech7 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libportaudio2 libxevie1 0 upgraded, 32 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 16.2MB of archives. After this operation, 58.4MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
I tried both cellwiter (nice and fast but problems only in e17 because of maximization) and dasher... dasher it's the version for a more powerful cpu... I know from direct contact with developers that they're trying to bevelop a specific version for small devices. qwo is on the way to debian... nice news! but in which repos will it be placed? unstable or testing? I have no memory about the error, I should try again... right now I'm building directly on the fr because it's faster than running on qemu (on my pc... hopefully i'll change it soon ;-) ) and i have no log right now. d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
nice news! but in which repos will it be placed? unstable or testing? testing is frozen already, so it can't get in there directly, thus 'unstable' (ie sid) For testing (ie lenny atm) we can create a backport and I could host it off my repository -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QWO (was Re: handwriting recognition)
Josh Thompson ha scritto: Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ Bye :) On what distro are you using QWO? I just tried it on SHR, and nothing ever shows up. If I ssh in to my FR with my display forwarded to my desktop and run it, it seems to work ok. Anyone know how to make it show up in SHR? There is a problem with localization variables, you should add in your profile scripts (you can use /etc/profile or create an executable script in /etc/profile.d) the following command: export LC_ALL=C Furthermore if you want to use special characters like accented or similar, you have to do some magic stuff :P to configure the xmodmap settings to enable the key codes, you can find some info (in Italian sorry, but you can use an automatic translator as it's not so complex speaking) here [1], you also will find a tar file containing all the files referenced in the post which let you use accented characters. [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,935.msg9276.html#msg9276 Bye :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
i'm trying cellwriter on my debian... - do you know a way to start it on e17 no in fullscreen mode? I tried to pack qwo (deb) with no success right now... hope to have news soon. d On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: there's rosetta http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso. but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned. another attempt is cellwriter http://risujin.org/cellwriter which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now, have to try it come weekend. both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every single hand. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
qwo is on the way to debian... Christian Amsuess has done initial packaging, we are just resolving some issues, upstream moved to using git and did some handy fixes... some time very soon I will upload it into Debian (hopefully late this weekend). what problems did you particularly encountered while building it? may be there is some arm specific challenge (I've not tried to built it yet on my FR) On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Davide Scaini wrote: i'm trying cellwriter on my debian... - do you know a way to start it on e17 no in fullscreen mode? I tried to pack qwo (deb) with no success right now... hope to have news soon. -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
there's rosetta http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso. but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned. another attempt is cellwriter http://risujin.org/cellwriter which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now, have to try it come weekend. both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every single hand. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 16:22, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: there's rosetta http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso. but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned. another attempt is cellwriter http://risujin.org/cellwriter which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now, have to try it come weekend. both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every single hand. There is also the one in Qtextended which is not far to be really usable. Though default shapes have to be edited (some are about the same for different characters, especially bettween some letters and numbers, like 9 and g maybe -do not remember-) But it would need to be ported to be used outside of Qtopia... Now that Qt is moving to LGPL, this might be an option ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
arne anka ha scritto: there's rosetta http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ another attempt is cellwriter http://risujin.org/cellwriter I use QWO since December and I feel very nice with it, forgot any other keyboard and dictionariesvery good input method. Bye :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
But it would need to be ported to be used outside of Qtopia... Now that Qt is moving to LGPL, this might be an option ? licensing has not been an obstacle so fra. but iirc the recognition is intimately linked with the qtopia way of life, among others the lack of X. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
I use QWO since December and I feel very nice with it, forgot any other keyboard and dictionariesvery good input method. what's qwo? the qtopia one? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
arne anka ha scritto: I use QWO since December and I feel very nice with it, forgot any other keyboard and dictionariesvery good input method. what's qwo? the qtopia one? _ Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ Bye :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ quikwriting (qwikwrite?). yes. i've seen that before. is it really that good? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
arne anka ha scritto: Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ quikwriting (qwikwrite?). yes. i've seen that before. is it really that good? IMHO the best one I've never seen I became very fast after few days (now I have a counter problem, as I'm too fast doing gestures that I make much mistakes :P) It's very customizable and (almost for latin people) you can add accented letters and other key codesUsing it in terminal too with no effort...try it ;) Bye ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
+1 for QWO. It is on opkg.org http://www.opkg.org/package_84.html 2009/1/15 DJDAS dj...@djdas.net arne anka ha scritto: Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ quikwriting (qwikwrite?). yes. i've seen that before. is it really that good? IMHO the best one I've never seen I became very fast after few days (now I have a counter problem, as I'm too fast doing gestures that I make much mistakes :P) It's very customizable and (almost for latin people) you can add accented letters and other key codesUsing it in terminal too with no effort...try it ;) Bye ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QWO (was Re: handwriting recognition)
On Thursday January 15, 2009, DJDAS wrote: arne anka ha scritto: I use QWO since December and I feel very nice with it, forgot any other keyboard and dictionariesvery good input method. what's qwo? the qtopia one? _ Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ Bye :) On what distro are you using QWO? I just tried it on SHR, and nothing ever shows up. If I ssh in to my FR with my display forwarded to my desktop and run it, it seems to work ok. Anyone know how to make it show up in SHR? Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QWO (was Re: handwriting recognition)
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 20:38, Josh Thompson om-c...@joshandbianca.net wrote: Anyone know how to make it show up in SHR? Check .desktop file if have Keyboard (but i'm not sure that it's correct name) category, and select it in Keyboard menu after clicking Illume's wrench on top shelf. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Handwriting recognition
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:41 AM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still haven't figured out how to choose the handwriting recognition (which I actually like) input instead of one of the keyboards. Right now sometimes it's on and sometimes it's off... Where do I enable it ? Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community When on a text input, choose 'Option' and then 'Change Input Method' until there is no keyboard display. Then just write on the screen! -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Handwriting recognition
Le dimanche 12 octobre 2008 à 11:55 +0200, Mathieu Rochette a écrit : When on a text input, choose 'Option' and then 'Change Input Method' until there is no keyboard display. Then just write on the screen! Ok, it works. Maybe an option named Handwriting something along with Keyboard, Docked Keyboard, Predictive Keyboard would make things less confusing. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qtextended] Handwriting recognition
I still haven't figured out how to choose the handwriting recognition (which I actually like) input instead of one of the keyboards. Right now sometimes it's on and sometimes it's off... Where do I enable it ? Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Handwriting recognition
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:35 PM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Le dimanche 12 octobre 2008 à 11:55 +0200, Mathieu Rochette a écrit : When on a text input, choose 'Option' and then 'Change Input Method' until there is no keyboard display. Then just write on the screen! Ok, it works. Maybe an option named Handwriting something along with Keyboard, Docked Keyboard, Predictive Keyboard would make things less confusing. That is not a bug, that is a feature, right there along with the magical controls in media player and om-view on OM2008.x. Actually, it was real fun, and rather useful in case of om-view to intuit and use. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:37:56 +1000 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: arne anka wrote: is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is there work going on to port it (or even use another handwriting recognition)? For X, there is rosetta, but I am not sure any work has been done on it for a while http://handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ I've tried rosetta (on OM2007.2), but the training application needed some modifications to run at all because the application would not display itself properly (wrong assumptions about screen size). Rosetta is at least promising when tweaked and used together with a good word list. What makes it unusable is that the automatic keyboard adds to the screen space needed by rosetta and then there's simply not enough screen left for the main application (e.g. SMS editor) A workaround for this is to re-enable the keyboard toggle applet in /etc/matchbox/session as described in the wiki. (I have the matchbox keyboard running, but I guess it would be the same with multitap). Some simple general keyboard input method management would be really nice for OM. E.g. like an extended keyboard applet that shows and hides keyboard apps associated with the chosen input method. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia
For 2007.2 users (and probably could be brought within ASU desktop easily) there is matchbox-stroke which seems to be quite a nice start and is configurable somewhat easily (if ran within terminal on FR it spits out the codes which are descriptors of the written letters so it could be added to shipped .xml file) the only problem on my 1st try to use it is that it doesn't have a mechanism to disappear from the screen (or at least I've not found it) -- it is always there. But I guess it should be doable (simply by duplicating some functionality from matchbox-keyboard for instance...) so it seems like a good candidate ;) someone indeed should just figur figure out a nice way to compose multiple input methods and implement convenient switching between them On Sat, 26 Jul 2008, arne anka wrote: is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is there work going on to port it (or even use another handwriting recognition)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Yaroslav Halchenko Research Assistant, Psychology Department, Rutgers-Newark Student Ph.D. @ CS Dept. NJIT Office: (973) 353-5440x263 | FWD: 82823 | Fax: (973) 353-1171 101 Warren Str, Smith Hall, Rm 4-105, Newark NJ 07102 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia
and some people built it for FR http://www.ginguppin.de/node/16 that's me :-) but cellwriter - does not hook into the matchbox mechanism to unhide when needed - seems not to be able to feed the charcaters to the actual application - is not fullscreen -- might be ok with a real tablet, but with the om the fields are to small to write on whiel the first two are probably more or less easy to fix, the third is rather a showstopper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia
is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is there work going on to port it (or even use another handwriting recognition)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia
arne anka wrote: is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is there work going on to port it (or even use another handwriting recognition)? For X, there is rosetta, but I am not sure any work has been done on it for a while http://handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia
there is also http://risujin.org/cellwriter/ and some people built it for FR http://www.ginguppin.de/node/16 but I haven't used/looked at it myself so not sure[*] [*]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ On Sat, 26 Jul 2008, Lorn Potter wrote: arne anka wrote: is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is there work going on to port it (or even use another handwriting recognition)? For X, there is rosetta, but I am not sure any work has been done on it for a while http://handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ -- Yaroslav Halchenko Research Assistant, Psychology Department, Rutgers-Newark Student Ph.D. @ CS Dept. NJIT Office: (973) 353-5440x263 | FWD: 82823 | Fax: (973) 353-1171 101 Warren Str, Smith Hall, Rm 4-105, Newark NJ 07102 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
Am Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008 schrieb Martin Šenkeřík: Once I have OpenMoko, I surely try this: http://risujin.org/cellwriter/ Just tried it on my desktop and I am impressed. Definitely recommended for integration into OpenMoko. regards, Andreas Micklei P.s. Hello list. I subscribed just a few days ago. :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:29:17AM +0200, arne anka wrote: i liked palm's old graffiti very much (the new graffiti 2 is crap) and would like to be able to use a similar approach on my freerunner, too. I agree. Single-stroke-per-character has advantages, I feel, in reliability and in lookups and other applications where each stroke counts. I had problems in the phone lookup interface sometimes with Graffiti 2 - I really think they took a step backwards. Does anyone know who owns the IP on Graffiti? I tried to hunt it down because I personally would like to see Graffiti on my Freerunner when I get it, since there is no hardware keyboard. (I will miss my Treo 650's hw kb, but not the unfixable OS bugs!) Regards, Msquared... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
Some time ago (or better: a long long time ago) someone in the list posted a thread about handwriting rekognition on the Neo. In the title there was also the word graffiti, and somone in the list said that he's a graffiti official, and that it would be better to not use it as a name to avoid eventual legal dispute.. As far as i know, there's already a handwriting rekognition on the openmoko.. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Msquared [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:29:17AM +0200, arne anka wrote: i liked palm's old graffiti very much (the new graffiti 2 is crap) and would like to be able to use a similar approach on my freerunner, too. I agree. Single-stroke-per-character has advantages, I feel, in reliability and in lookups and other applications where each stroke counts. I had problems in the phone lookup interface sometimes with Graffiti 2 - I really think they took a step backwards. Does anyone know who owns the IP on Graffiti? I tried to hunt it down because I personally would like to see Graffiti on my Freerunner when I get it, since there is no hardware keyboard. (I will miss my Treo 650's hw kb, but not the unfixable OS bugs!) Regards, Msquared... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fran Lebowitz - You're only has good as your last haircut. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
handwriting recognition?
Some time ago (or better: a long long time ago) someone in the list posted a thread about handwriting rekognition on the Neo. In the title there was also the word graffiti, and somone in the list said that he's a graffiti official, and that it would be better to not use it as a name to avoid eventual legal dispute.. well, we _were_ referring to the palm software with the name. i know those guys from the ip division usually have problems with the world outside their cubicles, but, we didn't use the trademark for something else. As far as i know, there's already a handwriting rekognition on the openmoko.. i don't see anything. neither in qemu nor in the wiki. any hints/links are highly appreciated. regarding the question, who owns graffiti 1, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
Once I have OpenMoko, I surely try this: http://risujin.org/cellwriter/ ohin On 6/17/08, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some time ago (or better: a long long time ago) someone in the list posted a thread about handwriting rekognition on the Neo. In the title there was also the word graffiti, and somone in the list said that he's a graffiti official, and that it would be better to not use it as a name to avoid eventual legal dispute.. As far as i know, there's already a handwriting rekognition on the openmoko.. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Msquared [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:29:17AM +0200, arne anka wrote: i liked palm's old graffiti very much (the new graffiti 2 is crap) and would like to be able to use a similar approach on my freerunner, too. I agree. Single-stroke-per-character has advantages, I feel, in reliability and in lookups and other applications where each stroke counts. I had problems in the phone lookup interface sometimes with Graffiti 2 - I really think they took a step backwards. Does anyone know who owns the IP on Graffiti? I tried to hunt it down because I personally would like to see Graffiti on my Freerunner when I get it, since there is no hardware keyboard. (I will miss my Treo 650's hw kb, but not the unfixable OS bugs!) Regards, Msquared... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fran Lebowitz - You're only has good as your last haircut. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, ramsesoriginal wrote: As far as i know, there's already a handwriting rekognition on the openmoko.. Can we use it to unlock the phone instead of using a pincode? :) Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
As far as i know, there's already a handwriting rekognition on the openmoko.. i don't see anything. neither in qemu nor in the wiki. any hints/links are highly appreciated. I don't know if it is in the images but it is called matchbox-stroke and it is one opkg away. I have not tested it but i supose that using the recipe in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards it could be used instead of the multitap s/keyboard/stroke. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:13:55PM +0200, arne anka wrote: regarding the question, who owns graffiti 1, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS) Looks like Xerox owns the patent. If it's still 17 years for a patent, that patent will still be valid for 5 or so years. I wonder if Xerox would be interested in allowing open source projects to use their invention without fee? Regards, Msquared... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
A quick search of my list archive found this: On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 2:38 AM, David Lefty Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graffiti (as it pertains to handwriting systems) is a registered trademark of ACCESS Systems Americas, not a generic term; you want to find some alternate terminology. Sorry, gotta point it out, it's part of my job... On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Msquared [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:13:55PM +0200, arne anka wrote: regarding the question, who owns graffiti 1, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29 Looks like Xerox owns the patent. If it's still 17 years for a patent, that patent will still be valid for 5 or so years. I wonder if Xerox would be interested in allowing open source projects to use their invention without fee? Regards, Msquared... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
Can we use it to unlock the phone instead of using a pincode? :) something in this way is definitely needed if the om uses password related security -- always hacking in a password with the onscreen keyboard will probably be rather slow and prone to exposure. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition?
arne anka wrote: i looked around a bit but i cannot find informations about the state of handwriting recognition or whether it exists at all. i liked palm's old graffiti very much (the new graffiti 2 is crap) and would like to be able to use a similar approach on my freerunner, too. Qtopia has a handwriting inputmethod. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
handwriting recognition?
i looked around a bit but i cannot find informations about the state of handwriting recognition or whether it exists at all. i liked palm's old graffiti very much (the new graffiti 2 is crap) and would like to be able to use a similar approach on my freerunner, too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openource handwriting recognition
I believe this merits some very in deep looks: http://risujin.org/cellwriter/ (via http://www.valdyas.org/fading/index.cgi/2007/10/30#cellwriter) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openource handwriting recognition
looks like it was developed with an active digitizer... (eg mousing over stuff the insertion hotspot) On 10/30/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe this merits some very in deep looks: http://risujin.org/cellwriter/ (via http://www.valdyas.org/fading/index.cgi/2007/10/30#cellwriter) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openource handwriting recognition
Two separate quotes from the main website However, some Tablet PCs or PDAs may not have a pen button or any other convenient way to right-click. The alternative gesture to bring up the context menu is the hold-click. Press with the pen without moving for one second and the context menu will show up. If you start drawing ink, you have moved the pen too far. To insert a space, point the mouse cursor at the insertion hotspot at either the bottom or the top of the dividing line between cells. If you are pointing at the hotspot, arrows will appear at the top and bottom of the dividing line, click to insert a space. So yeah, they do talk about mousing over things, but they also talk about PDA/Tablets as well. Either way, this looks like a great stylus input method, but probably won't work too well for a finger input method. -Jonathon -Original Message- From: Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org To: List for OpenMoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Openource handwriting recognition Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:40:26 -0600 looks like it was developed with an active digitizer... (eg mousing over stuff the insertion hotspot) On 10/30/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe this merits some very in deep looks: http://risujin.org/cellwriter/ (via http://www.valdyas.org/fading/index.cgi/2007/10/30#cellwriter) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openource handwriting recognition
On Oct 30, 2007 7:58 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe this merits some very in deep looks: http://risujin.org/cellwriter/ (via http://www.valdyas.org/fading/index.cgi/2007/10/30#cellwriter) It seems to work on the Neo. I have made a very quick package for it and uploaded in my feed (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Alessandro#My_Package_Repository). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Handwriting recognition (HWR)
What's the consensus on enabling and installing true handwriting recognition (HWR) on the Neo? Will there be a stylus application or utility or API that will process HWR? Though the original models were buggy, the final versions of Apple's Newton 2100 are believed by many (at newtontalk.net) to be second-to-none in their ability to perform HWR. Much of the work has already been done. One developer has written an emulator for it to run on a *NIX platform. I'd love to see it revived, because it works. One of my primary intents with this email is to get the right people (this community) in touch with the right people (the newtontalk community). The other is to ping the community on HWR. (/|\) Peace, Doug Parker Orlando FL ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
