[Community-Discuss] Reminder: Complete the consultative survey on the future of the ASO and ICANN

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Dear Colleagues,

This is a reminder to complete the consultative survey on the future of the ASO 
and ICANN, at : https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/732247 


The short survey contains the key questions from the ASO consultation review 
at: https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/732247 


Please find some time to respond to the survey, open until 16th December and 
available in English and French. 

Some background information on the ASO review at the following links:

Announcements, presentations, calls for comments:
https://www.nro.net/about-the-nro/aso-independent-review-2017/ 


The ASO Review report: 
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/aso-review-final-03aug17.pdf 


Questions posed by the NRO EC: 
https://www.nro.net/aso-review-consultation-2018/ 


CEO presentation at the AIS 2018 meeting: 
https://2018.internetsummit.africa/images/20180511-ASO_Review_Consultation.pdf 

https://www.afrinic.net/take-the-survey-on-the-aso-consultation-review 


The survey will close on 16 December 2018 2359 UTC 

….

Chers collègues,

Ceci est un rappel pour compléter le sondage consultatif sur l’avenir de l’ASO 
et de l’ICANN, à l’adresse suivante : 
https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/732247 


Le court  sondage contient les questions clés de la consultation de l’ASO à 
l’adresse : https://survey.afrinic.net/index.php/732247 
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Merci de prendre un peu de temps pour répondre au sondage, ouvert jusqu'au 16 
décembre et disponible en anglais et en français.

Quelques informations de base sur l'examen de l'ASO aux liens suivants :

Annonces, présentations, appels à commentaires :
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Le rapport d'examen ASO :
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/aso-review-final-03aug17.pdf 


Questions posées par le NRO NC :
https://www.nro.net/aso-review-consultation-2018/ 


Présentation du DG à la réunion AIS 2018 : 
https://2018.internetsummit.africa/images/20180511-ASO_Review_Consultation.pdf 

https://www.afrinic.net/take-the-survey-on-the-aso-consultation-review 


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Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

[Frank Habicht]

Hi,

inline...

On 12/12/2018 22:20, Owen DeLong wrote:
Actually, it isn’t. AfriNIC can enforce the RSA without this review 
policy. This review policy doesn’t enable AfriNIC to do anything AfriNIC 
can’t already do.


Yes. Agree.

What it does do is (potentially) force AfriNIC to take on additional 
tasks to conduct investigations into reported violations of the RSA to 
determine whether or not the proffered accusation constitutes credible 
evidence or not. It places no limits on the number of such 
investigations which can be forced by disgruntled members of the 
community. It places no hard limits on the amount of time and effort 
this may require on the part of resource members defending against such 
allegations, even if they are found to be baseless except  that if a 
member is put through a “full review” (which is not well defined in the 
policy), that member cannot be subjected to such process again for some 
period of time.


Yes. Agree.

This policy only gives guidelines as to how this can be implemented in 
a fair and transparent process.  How can you or any other African be 
against this. If a member already goes through an evaluation process 
when acquiring resources why should the member be opposed to a 
periodic review.


It’s neither fair nor transparent. It’s expensive and burdensome for 
large organizations while remaining fairly light-weight for small 
organizations. It’s a wide open vector for those who wish to launch a 
form of denial of service attack against some member organizations 
and/or AfriNIC itself.


Yes.

[snip...]

Third, to the best of my knowledge, there are several people who have 
voiced opposition who have no relationship whatsoever with Larus. I can 
think of at least two other resource members who fit this description 
and have expressed similar opposition without doing any research, just 
off the top of my head.


I'm one of those unrelated to Larus and expressing opposition.
[ hoping Owen counted me.
  if not: it's personal and we'll take it off-list ;-) ]

[snip...]

In the case of the PDP, having an interest in the outcome of the policy 
process as a member of the community does not constitute a conflict of 
interest. In theory, all resource members have some level of interest in 
the outcome of every PDP. Since all resource members are able to 
participate on equal footing in the PDP, this interest is not a conflict 
of interest against their obligations to the community because they do 
not meet the first test above. Their influence over the PDP is no 
greater than any other resource member or any other interested person.


My level of interest is this:
I would like to continue having a working, responsive, RIR for Africa, 
maintaining some numbers assignments/allocations, in a fair, predictable 
manner, that should not spend the majority(or a major share) of its 
resources on auditing members, just because a few have accused others 
and require audits; and neither should this RIR be at the risk of having 
to spend these resources, just because of this here discussed policy.


oops, are we on the wrong list?


Frank

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Re: [Community-Discuss] How are research projects selected at AFRINIC?

[S Moonesamy]

Hello,
At 11:38 AM 12-12-2018, Daniel Shaw via Community-Discuss wrote:

Why? It's not a list specific to educational institutions?


Educational opportunities are not specific to educational 
institutions.  My previous comment was about people who showed 
interest in that topic.


Regards,
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Re: [Community-Discuss] How are research projects selected at AFRINIC?

[Daniel Shaw via Community-Discuss]

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 9:29 PM, S Moonesamy  wrote:

> Hello,
> At 10:48 AM 12-12-2018, Daniel Shaw via Community-Discuss wrote:
>
> > Why not the community list? The research initiatives may be
> > interesting to non-members in the community too...
>
> The message [1] mentioned that a Resource Member of Afrinic Ltd has
> never been consulted about research priorities.

Well, considering there are a fair number of resource members, that's not too 
surprising ;)

> My suggestion was to
> discuss about that with the other Resource Members.

My suggestion is to broaden that. There are many folks that have a stake in 
resource members in some way or involved with them, but are not the contact 
person on the member list. I put it to you that the discussion could benefit 
from more than the member emails on the members list.

>
> Research priorities are not the same as research initiatives.

True. Both could be interesting.

> It has
> been the practice [2] to have a call when there is are such
> initiatives. I would have suggested this mailing list if there was a
> discussion among researchers about educational opportunities to
> encourage development in this service region.

Why? It's not a list specific to educational institutions?

Regards,
Daniel


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Re: [Community-Discuss] How are research projects selected at AFRINIC?

[S Moonesamy]

Hello,
At 10:48 AM 12-12-2018, Daniel Shaw via Community-Discuss wrote:
Why not the community list? The research initiatives may be 
interesting to non-members in the community too...


The message [1] mentioned that a Resource Member of Afrinic Ltd has 
never been consulted about research priorities.  My suggestion was to 
discuss about that with the other Resource Members.


Research priorities are not the same as research initiatives.  It has 
been the practice [2] to have a call when there is are such 
initiatives.  I would have suggested this mailing list if there was a 
discussion among researchers about educational opportunities to 
encourage development in this service region.


Regards,
S. Moonesamy

1. 
https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2018-December/002711.html
2. https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/announce/2018/001905.html 



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Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

[Owen DeLong]

> On Dec 12, 2018, at 08:33 , Gregoire Ehoumi  wrote:
> 
> 
> The point makes perfect sense.  Any organisation holding IP's from AFRINC is 
> only doing so in trust and not their property,  It can be recalled back at 
> any time if/when  AFRINIC believes that they are not being used for the 
> reasons and purposes for which they were allocated.  Especially in this arena 
> where technology and organisations can change.  The PDP and this Review 
> policy is just a mean in which AFRINIC can enforce its RSA, specifically 
> Section 4 -C - (iii) 

Actually, it isn’t. AfriNIC can enforce the RSA without this review policy. 
This review policy doesn’t enable AfriNIC to do anything AfriNIC can’t already 
do.

What it does do is (potentially) force AfriNIC to take on additional tasks to 
conduct investigations into reported violations of the RSA to determine whether 
or not the proffered accusation constitutes credible evidence or not. It places 
no limits on the number of such investigations which can be forced by 
disgruntled members of the community. It places no hard limits on the amount of 
time and effort this may require on the part of resource members defending 
against such allegations, even if they are found to be baseless except  that if 
a member is put through a “full review” (which is not well defined in the 
policy), that member cannot be subjected to such process again for some period 
of time.

> This policy only gives guidelines as to how this can be implemented in a fair 
> and transparent process.  How can you or any other African be against this. 
> If a member already goes through an evaluation process when acquiring 
> resources why should the member be opposed to a periodic review.

It’s neither fair nor transparent. It’s expensive and burdensome for large 
organizations while remaining fairly light-weight for small organizations. It’s 
a wide open vector for those who wish to launch a form of denial of service 
attack against some member organizations and/or AfriNIC itself.

I do not believe anyone has expressed opposition to legitimate periodic review. 
This proposal isn’t that. This proposal wants to pretend that it is that, but 
in fact, it is something very different. A carefully engineered attack on 
larger organizations by smaller ones.

> The conflict comes because a particular member is fighting  deadly such a 
> proposal and people  speaking on their personal capacity and opposing the 
> proposal on the PDP list and at meetings, have work relationship with that 
> member. They are conflicted and so their opinions must be taken into context.

You, like the other person who accused me directly of a conflict of interest 
are mistaken sir. You are mistaken in your definition of conflict of interest 
and you are mistaken in your belief about how I arrived at my position on this 
proposal.

First, I opposed this proposal well before I began any working relationship 
with Larus.

Second, if I felt this were good policy, even if I thought it would be bad for 
Larus, I’d be supporting it. In this case, it’s not.

Third, to the best of my knowledge, there are several people who have voiced 
opposition who have no relationship whatsoever with Larus. I can think of at 
least two other resource members who fit this description and have expressed 
similar opposition without doing any research, just off the top of my head.

In order for a person to have a conflict of interest, several things must be 
present:

1.  They must have a greater level of influence in the policy 
outcome than any general member of the polity.
(e.g. co-chair, board member, etc.)
2.  They or their organization must unduly benefit from one 
particular possible outcome more so than any
general other party is likely to.
(e.g. a collection of small organizations who believe they are 
more likely to be able to benefit from reclaimed
IP space being available to them for a longer period in the 
future if the policy passes)

In the case of the PDP, having an interest in the outcome of the policy process 
as a member of the community does not constitute a conflict of interest. In 
theory, all resource members have some level of interest in the outcome of 
every PDP. Since all resource members are able to participate on equal footing 
in the PDP, this interest is not a conflict of interest against their 
obligations to the community because they do not meet the first test above. 
Their influence over the PDP is no greater than any other resource member or 
any other interested person.

Further, if your statements claiming that this proposal is a fair and equitable 
way to conduct reviews were true (it isn’t), then, the second test for conflict 
would also fail as the proposed policy would then not have an undue benefit or 
impact on said resource holders beyond what it would have on any other resource 
holders in the community.

So… Yes, the 

Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

[Owen DeLong]

> On Dec 12, 2018, at 02:38 , Chevalier du Borg  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Le mar. 11 déc. 2018 à 19:41, Andrew Alston  > a écrit :
> If OIF were try to put french citizen people on AFRINIC board, your argument 
> will make sense. It is not. If you have evidence to show it has, please share 
> and tell us how they benefit from it.
>  
> 
> Actually this claim concerns me more than anything and highlights everything 
> I believe is wrong with this policy in the first place.  Firstly it assumes 
> facts not yet in evidence – because any “benefit” would assume that
> 
>  
> 
> There is sufficient evidence to use this policy against Larus at the request 
> of a member initiated review – there is no evidence of this
> Failing (a) it assumes that Larus will some how come up in “random” review – 
> which would be far from random
> As regards (a) it assumes that there even if a review were done against Larus 
> that there would be any finding of guilty
>  
> 
> Since none of those things have been proven nor has any evidence been shown – 
> and in fact AFRINIC has repeatedly stated that those applications for space 
> were thoroughly reviewed and vetted – I fail to see how you can claim benefit.
> 
> 
> 
> You still avoid how OIF and a member are equivalent. They are not. A member 
> can potentially benefit or suffer from this proposal - not so OIF. That the 
> point.
> 
> 
> As to everything having been review and ok by AFRINIC, please note that every 
> one of the multinational company that rape this continent usually obey the 
> LETTER of the law.

Then make better laws.

The review policy won’t solve the problem you have stated here.

Owen

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Re: [Community-Discuss] How are research projects selected at AFRINIC?

[Daniel Shaw via Community-Discuss]

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:08 PM, S Moonesamy  wrote:

> I am interested in your views about what should be the research
> priorities. May I suggest that you raise the issue on the members
> mailing list?
>

Why not the community list? The research initiatives may be interesting to 
non-members in the community too...

Regards,
Daniel


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Re: [Community-Discuss] Inter-RIR Resource Transfers v3?

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss]

Hi Chittesh,

Yes, of course.

Need to find some time to read minutes, look at the videos, and of course, if 
you have any suggestions on that, please, do those in the policy mailing list.

I will be responding to any comments and in some days/weeks, make an 
alternative proposal.

Thanks!

Regards,
Jordi
 
 

-Mensaje original-
De: Chittesh Sham 
Fecha: miércoles, 12 de diciembre de 2018, 18:01
Para: 
CC: 
Asunto: [Community-Discuss] Inter-RIR Resource Transfers v3?

Hi Jordi,

Will you be updating your Inter-RIR Resource Transfers v2 proposal based 
on feedback from last meeting in Hammamet?

Cheers,
Chittesh Sham

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[Community-Discuss] Inter-RIR Resource Transfers v3?

[Chittesh Sham]

Hi Jordi,

Will you be updating your Inter-RIR Resource Transfers v2 proposal based 
on feedback from last meeting in Hammamet?


Cheers,
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Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

[Badru Ntege]

 ☺  Me thinks the man doth protest too much 

 

A general statement shared openly as an observation not pointed to any one 
multinational or individual should be allowed to be just that.  

 

An observation by a community member.  No need for “legal” requirements of 
evidence.

 

Regards

 

BN

 

 

From: Andrew Alston 
Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 7:01 PM
To: Badru Ntege , Chevalier du Borg 

Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC 
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

 

See – I see these as totally unsubstantiated allegations with no substance.

 

So – if this is what you believe – who are these multi-nationals you refer to 
that are raping and pillaging our resources.  If you wanna make accusations 
like this – speak the names – give the evidence – and keep in mind – the one 
defense against defamation is the truth.  If however you don’t wish to name 
names – and risk the potential consequences if you can’t actually back up the 
claims – then lets quit with the rhetoric and the vague insinuations that have 
no specifics and no basis in fact.

 

Andrew

 

 

From: Badru Ntege 
Date: Wednesday, 12 December 2018 at 07:01
To: Chevalier du Borg , Andrew Alston 

Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC 
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

 

 

 

 

From: Chevalier du Borg 
Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 1:42 PM
To: Andrew Alston 
Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC 
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

 



 

 

As to everything having been review and ok by AFRINIC, please note that every 
one of the multinational company that rape this continent usually obey the 
LETTER of the law.

 

Multinationals fronted by members hide behind the law to continue the rape and 
pilage of our resources including the number resources.  We have seen the law 
used so many times to destroy what others have painfully built.  

 

We often see that in our community.  When facts and reason fail the law is used.

 

BN

 

 

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Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

[Gregoire Ehoumi via Community-Discuss]

The point makes perfect sense.  Any organisation holding IP's from AFRINC is 
only doing so in trust and not their property,  It can be recalled back at any 
time if/when  AFRINIC believes that they are not being used for the reasons and 
purposes for which they were allocated.  Especially in this arena where 
technology and organisations can change.  The PDP and this Review policy is 
just a mean in which AFRINIC can enforce its RSA, specifically Section 4 -C - 
(iii) 

This policy only gives guidelines as to how this can be implemented in a fair 
and transparent process.  How can you or any other African be against this. If 
a member already goes through an evaluation process when acquiring resources 
why should the member be opposed to a periodic review.

The conflict comes because a particular member is fighting  deadly such a 
proposal and people  speaking on their personal capacity and opposing the 
proposal on the PDP list and at meetings, have work relationship with that 
member. They are conflicted and so their opinions must be taken into context.

--Gregoire

-- Original message--From: Andrew AlstonDate: Tue, Dec 11, 2018 10:44 
AMTo: Benjamin Eshun;Owen DeLong;Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC;Subject:Re: 
[Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -


The argument about conflict is simply non-sensical, since any person holding IP 
space on the continent is potentially conflicted in ANY policy through the PDP. 
 The point of the PDP is to create policies which self-govern the use of 
resources
 by members who hold the resources – that means that by definition, every 
single person who holds IP space is conflicted during the passage of any policy 
that goes anywhere near the use of IP space.
 
Hence – this logic falls flat 
 
Andrew
 
 

From: Benjamin Eshun >

Date: Tuesday, 11 December 2018 at 03:09

To: Owen DeLong >

Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC >

Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -


 

Owen,



This thread is not about a particular policy as community is

discussing two possible threats to Afrinic PDP and its governance in

general.



Your obstinacy to discuss and oppose review proposal everywhere and

at any occasions, made me doubt and question your real relationship

with Larus...



Thank you for disclosing your work relationship with Larus.You are

conflicted and I would expect you to observe ethics in this discussion

affecting Larus holding 6 millions IPV4 and opposing the review

proposal.



Let's expect others who have worked or working with Larus to have the

courage to also disclose.



Policy discussions happen on rpd and must remain there. As for your

claim about my support to the review proposal, I strongly believe in

accountability and transparency. As you keep questioning board

actions, I do support that those who has been granted "right to use"

public resources be held accountable to them.



RIR governance (*) is so important and i would like to see AFRINIC

holding good position among the five RIRs and will always support

actions aiming to improve governance and accountability.



I have nor worked for Larus nor be sponsored by OIF, but I do know how

OIF support has been instrumental to this community through, AFNOG,

AFRICACERT, AFTLD..



(*) https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/rir-governance-matrix/



regards,



Benjamin

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 7:19 AM Owen DeLong > wrote:

>

>

>

> > On Dec 10, 2018, at 06:35 , Benjamin Eshun > wrote:

> >

> > Oga Sunday,

> >

> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:33 AM Sunday Folayan > wrote:

> >>

> >> Lieutenant General Borg,

> >>

> >> I agree to some parts about corrupt companies and innocent states.

> >>

> >> It is corruption all the way, if the State owns the Company. Especially 
> >> when the voice of the company is the voice of the Nation.

> >>

> >> We are threading on thin boundaries here.

> >>

> >

> > It is not a matter of corrupted companies and innocent states.

> >

> > It is more about handling conflict of Interest and impact analysis

> > of one company, member of Afrinic holding 6 millions of afrinic v4

> > space mobilising people to hijack the PDP (where contribution are

> > individual views) compared to Intergovernmental organisation like

> > OIF sponsoring people to attend meetings.

>

> Benjamin,

>

> Once again, you make this claim, but do you have any evidence to support it?

>

> While I have done some work for Larus, I have never been instructed by Larus 
> on what opinion I should hold or express.

>

> How is it hijacking the PDP when people make a cogent argument against a 
> proposal? I realize you support the proposal. This does not mean that all 
> opposition to the proposal is inherently corrupt and your constant specious 
> claims to the contrary ignore several
 facts:

>

> 1. Multiple organizations are represented in the opposition.

> 2. Many people who were not Larus fellows 

Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

[Andrew Alston]

See – I see these as totally unsubstantiated allegations with no substance.

So – if this is what you believe – who are these multi-nationals you refer to 
that are raping and pillaging our resources.  If you wanna make accusations 
like this – speak the names – give the evidence – and keep in mind – the one 
defense against defamation is the truth.  If however you don’t wish to name 
names – and risk the potential consequences if you can’t actually back up the 
claims – then lets quit with the rhetoric and the vague insinuations that have 
no specifics and no basis in fact.

Andrew


From: Badru Ntege 
Date: Wednesday, 12 December 2018 at 07:01
To: Chevalier du Borg , Andrew Alston 

Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC 
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -




From: Chevalier du Borg 
Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 1:42 PM
To: Andrew Alston 
Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC 
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -




As to everything having been review and ok by AFRINIC, please note that every 
one of the multinational company that rape this continent usually obey the 
LETTER of the law.

Multinationals fronted by members hide behind the law to continue the rape and 
pilage of our resources including the number resources.  We have seen the law 
used so many times to destroy what others have painfully built.

We often see that in our community.  When facts and reason fail the law is used.

BN


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Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

[Badru Ntege]

 

 

 

From: Chevalier du Borg 
Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 1:42 PM
To: Andrew Alston 
Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC 
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

 



 

 

As to everything having been review and ok by AFRINIC, please note that every 
one of the multinational company that rape this continent usually obey the 
LETTER of the law.

 

 

Multinationals fronted by members hide behind the law to continue the rape and 
pilage of our resources including the number resources.  We have seen the law 
used so many times to destroy what others have painfully built.  

 

 We often see that in our community.  When facts and reason fail the law is 
used.

 

BN

 

 

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Re: [Community-Discuss] How are research projects selected at AFRINIC?

[S Moonesamy]

Dear Mr Matogoro,
At 01:36 AM 12-12-2018, Matogoro Jabera wrote:

I work with University of Dodoma as a researcher and we are also
member of AFRINIC but I have never come across to such consultation on
research priorities.


I am interested in your views about what should be the research 
priorities.  May I suggest that you raise the issue on the members 
mailing list?


Regards,
S. Moonesamy 



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Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

[Chevalier du Borg]

Le mar. 11 déc. 2018 à 19:41, Andrew Alston 
a écrit :

>
>- If OIF were try to put french citizen people on AFRINIC board, your
>argument will make sense. It is not. If you have evidence to show it has,
>please share and tell us how they benefit from it.
>
>
>
> Actually this claim concerns me more than anything and highlights
> everything I believe is wrong with this policy in the first place.  Firstly
> it assumes facts not yet in evidence – because any “benefit” would assume
> that
>
>
>
>1. There is sufficient evidence to use this policy against Larus at
>the request of a member initiated review – there is no evidence of this
>2. Failing (a) it assumes that Larus will some how come up in “random”
>review – which would be far from random
>3. As regards (a) it assumes that there even if a review were done
>against Larus that there would be any finding of guilty
>
>
>
> Since none of those things have been proven nor has any evidence been
> shown – and in fact AFRINIC has repeatedly stated that those applications
> for space were thoroughly reviewed and vetted – I fail to see how you can
> claim benefit.
>


You still avoid how OIF and a member are equivalent. They are not. A member
can potentially benefit or suffer from this proposal - not so OIF. That the
point.


As to everything having been review and ok by AFRINIC, please note that
every one of the multinational company that rape this continent usually
obey the LETTER of the law.


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Re: [Community-Discuss] How are research projects selected at AFRINIC?

[Matogoro Jabera]

Dear Amreesh,Dear Colleagues,

I have been following this thread regarding AFRINIC Research and
Development, I once asked similar question on the methodologies and
approaches used by AFRINIC in identifying research areas and its
relevance in addressing issues facing AFRINIC members and AFRINIC
Mission.

Thank you for the answers you have provided and being that much
transparent that the department is led by Engineers who are not
necessarily having policy skills. This therefore provide a room to
engage other experts to complement the current skill sets in the
department.

I work with University of Dodoma as a researcher and we are also
member of AFRINIC but I have never come across to such consultation on
research priorities.

The question is relevant and I have a feeling that more engagement is required.



Regards,
Matogoro J

On 12/7/18, Sami Salih  wrote:
>
> Dear Amreesh,
>
> Thank you very much for this informative reply, I really appreciate what
> have be do in R, however as ex-Head of R at the Telecom regulatory of my
> country I want to see more engagement with policy oprganizations to fill the
> gap in policy related research studies. I may refer back to you with some
> ToR.
>
> BR
>
>  Original Message -
> From: Amreesh Phokeer 
> To: s...@tpra.gov.sd
> Cc: community-discuss@afrinic.net
> Sent: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 13:37:13 +0300 (EAT)
> Subject: How are research projects selected at AFRINIC?
>
> Dear Sami,
>
> Following our remote presentation on the Research and Innovation (R)
> Department update, you and some other delegates had some questions which I
> would try to answer on the list; perhaps this could spark more
> discussions/recommendations on the activities of AFRINIC Research.
>
> Questions from the audience at AFRINIC-29:
>
>    What is the methodology for selecting research projects?  
> We try, as much as possible, to work on research projects that will help
> formulate policies that can have a positive impact on the development of the
> Internet ecosystem in Africa. Research projects are therefore selected based
> on the mutual interest from AFRINIC Research partners and on potential
> impact it can bring.
> Example of a policy brief, based on a research study:
> 
>
>   Whether AFRINIC Research team takes feedback from the community on
> research needed and how does the research benefit the community with regards
> to issues faced by the community?  
> We gather feedback based on the discussions we have during our meetings. For
> e.g. we presented a city-to-city latency analysis as a follow-up of the
> Africa Latency study at AFPIF, this year, based on requests we received on
> the microphone.  In the future, we intend to run a survey to get more
> detailed feedback on the needs of the community in terms of research. The
> team will launch an “Internet Measurement Awareness Survey” early next year
> to understand the “Internet measurement needs" of the community.
>
>    Is AFRINIC involved in research with regards to marketing and
> regulatory aspects?  
> AFRINIC is definitely interested in understanding the dynamics of the ISP
> market and how it is influenced by the regulations in different countries.
> We have not done any research work on this aspect as at now, but this is a
> topic in which Research ICT Africa has a good expertise, we may consider
> collaborate with them in the future.
>
> You will find all research output from the R team in the last two years at
> this link:
> 
>
> We also worked on a proof-of-concept of a data portal, which contains
> information such as IPv6 penetration, ISP market share, etc. Extending this
> platform is one of our main projects in 2019:
>
> World Internet Data ExplorER (WIDER) Project
> 
>
> Hope this helps. Please send any suggestions, research ideas, etc to AFRINIC
> Labs 
>
> Kind regards,
>
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