Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread Jeff Wright
Or you could just edit the registry to disable remote access as noted in the
workaround section of the KB article.  Takes about 2 minutes a server.

Nah, better to panic.

 -Original Message-
 The biggest threats to Macs (and all of us) right now is the Microsoft
 DNS vulnerability. Unfortunately, many Mac users work in environments
 where the local DNS is on a Microsoft server. The problem is that the
 Microsoft DNS can be remotely attacked and loaded with bogus addresses.
 Thus you type in the URL of a site you trust and you get routed to a
 look-alike phishing site. This is very serious and is currently
 happening. I don't see that Microsoft has issued a patch. Best solution
 for now is to change your DNS settings to use a trusted UNIX DNS
 server.



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Re: [CGUYS] The disappearance of bees...

2007-04-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
DDT isn't banned any more, at least for anti-mosquito efforts.  You can buy
insect repellant now that has DDT in it.

Isn't that DEET in the insect repellant? As a suspected carcinogen DDT 
would not be a good thing to smear on one's body. DDT is banned in N 
America and mostly banned internationally according to Wikipedia.



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
Or you could just edit the registry to disable remote access as noted in the
workaround section of the KB article.  Takes about 2 minutes a server.
Nah, better to panic.

In my experience nothing will strike panic into the hearts of IT managers 
like the prospect of getting their big butts out of their chairs. 
Disable remote access you have got to be kidding. It won't be done. 
Anyone who relies on it getting done is asking for trouble. It is much 
safer to switch to a reliable DNS.

Perhaps we need a way to cross check the results from multiple DNS 
servers? If one were polluted the inconsistent results would be a tip off 
that something is wrong.



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Re: [CGUYS] The disappearance of bees...

2007-04-21 Thread John DeCarlo

Oops, my mistake.

On 4/21/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


DDT isn't banned any more, at least for anti-mosquito efforts.  You can
buy
insect repellant now that has DDT in it.

Isn't that DEET in the insect repellant? As a suspected carcinogen DDT
would not be a good thing to smear on one's body. DDT is banned in N
America and mostly banned internationally according to Wikipedia.



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread mike

Again, I keep wondering where you meet these guys?  Are you loitering around
best buy and figure the geeksquad guys are IT managers?  I've met many IT
managers, and their staff, never have I met these caricatures you describe.

Mike

On 4/21/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Or you could just edit the registry to disable remote access as noted in
the
workaround section of the KB article.  Takes about 2 minutes a server.
Nah, better to panic.

In my experience nothing will strike panic into the hearts of IT managers
like the prospect of getting their big butts out of their chairs.
Disable remote access you have got to be kidding. It won't be done.
Anyone who relies on it getting done is asking for trouble. It is much
safer to switch to a reliable DNS.

Perhaps we need a way to cross check the results from multiple DNS
servers? If one were polluted the inconsistent results would be a tip off
that something is wrong.



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Re: [CGUYS] The disappearance of bees...

2007-04-21 Thread Steve Rigby

On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:35 AM, John H. Davis wrote:

I would look to polution, and invasive species long before I would 
suspect Cell phones.


  I agree with this.  However, it could be that microwave telecom 
signals, be that from cell phones, public safety and commercial radio 
and telemetry systems, as well as numerous other sources, could have an 
additional adverse effect on certain species.  That microwave oven that 
you likely have in your home is carefully shielded to prevent radiation 
leaks, and that is done for good reason. It is well realized that the 
microwave radiations within that oven, which are at wavelengths close 
to the ones used for various telecom systems, can damage even human 
tissue.  Other species may be far more sensitive and susceptible.


  Steve



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[CGUYS] Apple surging 30%

2007-04-21 Thread Tony B

Well, sort of, and that's the spin AppleInsider puts on the story.
While I was running around last year saying Macs were 10% of the
market, they were really only 4%. But they're up to 5% in 1Q 07.
http://tinyurl.com/2j9266



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[CGUYS] Yahoo mail

2007-04-21 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Is there a way to setup a mail client (Outlook Express or Thunderbird) 
on a PC for a Yahoo mail account?




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[CGUYS] Semi-OT: FS-Unopened DVD-Delta Force

2007-04-21 Thread Christopher Range
I stupidly bought two of these.  I will sell it to anyone in the 
DC-Metro area for $15.  Shipping is not included because, I would rather 
meet in a public place and, give it to the individual personally.


Christopher



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
Again, I keep wondering where you meet these guys?  Are you loitering around
best buy and figure the geeksquad guys are IT managers?  I've met many IT
managers, and their staff, never have I met these caricatures you describe.

We had this discussion here a few months ago (and I mostly stayed out of 
it). There were plenty of first-hand accounts of IT mis-management and 
resolute refusal to see anything amiss on your side of the aisle. Sort of 
like watching the White House defend Bolton, Gonzales, Wolfowitz, et al..



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Re: [CGUYS] Yahoo mail

2007-04-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Not unless you pay for it.  They cut off pop access some time ago.

Stewart


At 12:18 PM 4/21/2007, you wrote:
Is there a way to setup a mail client (Outlook Express or 
Thunderbird) on a PC for a Yahoo mail account?




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Re: [CGUYS] Yahoo mail

2007-04-21 Thread Bill

Yes, you can set up Pop access with a utility called Yahoo Pops.  It's
free, open source..  The only warning is that when Yahoo updates its
software, you may have to update your version of Yahoo Pops, too.

Works very well and has been around for years.

Bill

On 4/21/07, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not unless you pay for it.  They cut off pop access some time ago.

Stewart


At 12:18 PM 4/21/2007, you wrote:
Is there a way to setup a mail client (Outlook Express or
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Re: [CGUYS] Nokia cell phones

2007-04-21 Thread Steve Rigby

On Apr 19, 2007, at 1:27 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:

Yes. I have an 1100, 3595, 6010, 3220. I also have a Samsung flip 
phone that I hate. All get good reception, but flip phones are 
pointless--takes more effort to use--sliders aren't too bad, but candy 
bar phones are easiest. Microphones and speakers on our Nokia phones 
are much better than on Moto phones. Moto phones only sound good when 
you use bluetooth. The Slvr and Razr sound awful.


  What I really like about all these new, extremely thin cell phones is 
how you can now hear both sides of the conversation.  It used to be 
hard to follow the discussion because you could only hear the side of 
the conversation, that being from the person sitting near to you.  Now, 
with these super slim phones, there is no padding behind the 
loudspeaker, and the other party comes through loud and clear.  Not 
only can you now hear the boyfriend cursing and bitching, but you can 
hear the girlfriend bitching back!  Why, oh why, do these fools seem to 
just want everyone to hear of their private lives?


  Steve



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Re: [CGUYS] Semi-OT: FS-Unopened DVD-Delta Force

2007-04-21 Thread mike

I'll put the cash in a plastic hefty bag and at precisely 12.04 pm place the
bag under the trash can at the corner of F and 20th street, northeast
corner.  Pickup is to occur after 12.10 but before 12.15, place dvd back in
bag and under trash can facing the cover of the dvd due south.  Any
infraction on these instructions will result in loss of proceeds for said
dvd.

Mike

The rooster crows at midnight...pass it on.

On 4/21/07, Christopher Range [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I stupidly bought two of these.  I will sell it to anyone in the
DC-Metro area for $15.  Shipping is not included because, I would rather
meet in a public place and, give it to the individual personally.

Christopher



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Re: [CGUYS] Apple Issues Patches for 25 Security Holes

2007-04-21 Thread John DeCarlo

On 4/21/07, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Again, I keep wondering where you meet these guys?  Are you loitering
around
best buy and figure the geeksquad guys are IT managers?  I've met many IT
managers, and their staff, never have I met these caricatures you
describe.



Tom is pretty harsh, but the points he make show up pretty commonly.  I work
with several IT managers who are very conscientious and extremely well
qualified technically.  Yet they end up trapping themselves into nasty
corners.  Like migrating to a huge Microsoft environment - Exchange, Windows
desktops, SharePoint, Office, IE, etc.  If you lead them carefully, they
will admit that things don't work the way they would like - in fact, the
products Microsoft delivers are incredibly frustrating.  But they buy into
the Microsoft mantra - easier to hire people familiar with Microsoft,
current staff skills, just copying other large companies, etc.

In fact, two in particular I know of would love to have a standards-based
environment, with lots more open source products that would be easier to
maintain.  But they would have to work extra hard to find the right support
people, those motivated to work with the open source community, etc.  And
they would have to work hard to convince upper management.  So the cost to
ramp up would be higher, though the result would be hugely cheaper and
easier to maintain and improve.  But try proposing paying the IT people
more, bringing in those who care about open source, and having ways to
outsource some of the support.  Maybe it could be done, but ...

So, the honest and capable ones know they are stuck in a tough place, and
are very frustrated.

And, of course, there are plenty of the not-very-competent types out there,
that is for sure.

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Re: [CGUYS] Yahoo mail

2007-04-21 Thread John DeCarlo

On 4/21/07, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Not unless you pay for it.  They cut off pop access some time ago.



Although they have not cut it off for all countries.  Multilingual people
can get French, Spanish, etc. Yahoo accounts and get POP access for free.

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Re: [CGUYS] Semi-OT: FS-Unopened DVD-Delta Force

2007-04-21 Thread Christopher Range

mike wrote:

I'll put the cash in a plastic hefty bag and at precisely 12.04 pm 
place the

bag under the trash can at the corner of F and 20th street, northeast
corner.  Pickup is to occur after 12.10 but before 12.15, place dvd 
back in

bag and under trash can facing the cover of the dvd due south.  Any
infraction on these instructions will result in loss of proceeds for said
dvd.

Mike

The rooster crows at midnight...pass it on.


Mike, Is this a joke?  That almost sounds like a  note a kidnapper would 
leave.


Christopher



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Re: [CGUYS] Semi-OT: FS-Unopened DVD-Delta Force

2007-04-21 Thread mike

Well it *was* a joke, but since you ask, I guess not much of one.  I was
trying to think in terms of Washington DC CIA types.

Mike

On 4/21/07, Christopher Range [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


mike wrote:

 I'll put the cash in a plastic hefty bag and at precisely 12.04 pm
 place the
 bag under the trash can at the corner of F and 20th street, northeast
 corner.  Pickup is to occur after 12.10 but before 12.15, place dvd
 back in
 bag and under trash can facing the cover of the dvd due south.  Any
 infraction on these instructions will result in loss of proceeds for
said
 dvd.

 Mike

 The rooster crows at midnight...pass it on.

Mike, Is this a joke?  That almost sounds like a  note a kidnapper would
leave.

Christopher



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Re: [CGUYS] Semi-OT: FS-Unopened DVD-Delta Force

2007-04-21 Thread Christopher Range

mike wrote:


Well it *was* a joke, but since you ask, I guess not much of one.  I was
trying to think in terms of Washington DC CIA types.

Mike


I will sell you the movie.  I just couldn't figure out, the reason for 
the 'clandestine' manner in selling it. :-)


Christopher



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