Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Mike Sloane
I have been following this thread, and I found the number of 10,000 per 
month just astounding. But if you figure that is 333 per day, that 
probably comes out to something like one a day at every airport around 
the country. And then when you figure out how many business travelers 
are late for their flights, disoriented by the TSA procedures, busy 
talking on their cellphones, or just scatterbrained, I guess the number 
doesn't sound that bad. But the fact that so few people actually try to 
recover them, THAT I find amazing.


Mike

Tony B wrote:

Even including thefts, this just doesn't sound plausible. Can anyone
find the *actual study*? Following a bunch of links they all just seem
to link to each other.


On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Study says more than 10,000 laptops go missing at US airports each week

http://tinyurl.com/6sx4hb






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Re: [CGUYS] Can't access a computer over the network.

2008-07-08 Thread John Emmerling
Does computer #2 have VPN software installed?  I had a similar problem.  It
turned out that the VPN requires a security driver to be installed which
can be disabled when editing connection properties (but then the VPN won't
work).

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:57 PM, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Q. Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  I am running a Vista computer (#1) hardwired to a Linksys wrt54G
 router,
  and an XP computer (#2) via Linksys wireless. All software updated, all
  firewalls and antiviruses disabled. All in the same workgroup, all
  permissions to share the C: drives. All can get on the internet.
 

 There are a million things possible, as you probably tried.  Some thoughts:

 1.  Users access shared folders - not computers.  Does every user see the
 same symptoms?  What if you are logged in as Administrator?

 2.  Are you getting password requests when you try this?

 3.  Do all the computers show up in your Microsoft Network?


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Re: [CGUYS] Can't access a computer over the network.

2008-07-08 Thread Q. Fisher

Subject: Re: Can't access a computer over the network.
From: John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:57:22 -0400

There are a million things possible, as you probably tried.  Some thoughts:

1.  Users access shared folders - not computers.  Does every user see the
same symptoms?  What if you are logged in as Administrator?

2.  Are you getting password requests when you try this?

3.  Do all the computers show up in your Microsoft Network?


John -

Always logged in as administrator. No password requests (but I disabled 
password logins for the computers).


When I open Windows Explorer to Network on #1 (Vista), it shows all the 
computers. When I click to access #2, I get a box warning, Windows 
cannot access \\Computer2 and below, Error code 0x80070005 Access is 
denied


Doing the same from Computer #2 also shows all computers on the network, 
allowing access to only Public folders on Computer #1.


As mentioned, all folders on a third computer on the network are freely 
accessible to both of these.


I have run Norton and Kapersky, could this be a virus? One internet 
posting mentioned a virus that has the effect of 'increasing security' 
by blocking access.


Where do I look for those log files, and what do I look for in them?

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[CGUYS] Metada question

2008-07-08 Thread David Turk
Can someone explain why, in Windows Explorer, a tiff's Creation Date shows as 
being later than its Modification Date, while in Adobe Bridge, the Modification 
Date shows as being later than the Creation Date (which should always be the 
case)?  tia.

 david


David Turk

Manager, Preservation Imaging Services

Indiana Historical Society
Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center

450 W. Ohio St.

Indianapolis, IN  46202

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Re: [CGUYS] Can't access a computer over the network.

2008-07-08 Thread John DeCarlo
When you were troubleshooting, did you turn off all your firewall software?
Would be nice to know if that affects the results.


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 8, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Mike Sloane wrote:

I have been following this thread, and I found the number of 10,000  
per month just astounding.


  Actually, I think you have misread the figures.  It is 10,000 per  
week.


  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Metadata question

2008-07-08 Thread David Turk
Sorry, meant Metadatain the Subject line...

   david


David Turk
Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
Indiana Historical Society
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450 W. Ohio St.
Indianapolis, IN  46202
(317) 232-4592
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From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
David Turk
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:26 AM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: [CGUYS] Metada question

Can someone explain why, in Windows Explorer, a tiff's Creation Date shows as 
being later than its Modification Date, while in Adobe Bridge, the Modification 
Date shows as being later than the Creation Date (which should always be the 
case)?  tia.

 david


David Turk

Manager, Preservation Imaging Services

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Indianapolis, IN  46202

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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
If you take into account how many folks fly on any given day and how 
many go through the airports in a given week as an average you will 
find it is not really a high number.


I am just trying to figure out where all the laptops go.  Somewhere 
there must be a huge store room full of them.


Stewart


At 09:40 AM 7/8/2008, you wrote:

On Jul 8, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Mike Sloane wrote:


I have been following this thread, and I found the number of 10,000
per month just astounding.


  Actually, I think you have misread the figures.  It is 10,000 per
week.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Tony B
I think the study is flawed. If not, why hasn't any of us heard of
this auction of thousands of unclaimed laptops? What are the odds that
none of them has sensitive information and wouldn't have made the
news?

And yes, most definitely, if someone were to 'forget' a laptop at an
airport I would expect *whoever* finds it to go out of their way to
reunite it with the owner, not just take it home and sell it, or throw
it in an auction bin. And how are we to believe even hurried travelers
are going to forget something as heavy and obvious as a laptop??? You
might forget a kid, but not a laptop.

I have yet to see a pile of forgotten laptops at any TSA screening
area. Much more likely, since the study includes it, is theft. And
that's why so many people say they aren't going to try to get it back
- because there's basically nothing they can do, not because they left
it with TSA.


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Larry Sacks
I was wondering just how long someone would point that out.

Perhaps we should start rating Tom's negative comments about PCs like a
movie or restaurant.  

I thought Tom's recent post was even more derisive than normal.  It
felt to me, as if it touched some sort of nerve with him.

Or

While Tom's comment was enjoyable, it was way too predictable and quite
frankly, pedantic.

We're just sayin' this stuff 'cause we love you Tommy! :-)


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 6:31 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

What's funny is, knowing Tom's insecurity with his computer choice I
knew
exactly where he was going...you've been around long enough too...you
should
have known this would work to some kind of pc slam.

Mike

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes and no.

 With the current way Insurance works on many sides there is no effort
 needed to get reimbursed.

 I happen to value my Laptop and would not want to loose it no matter
what.

 Stewart


 At 02:28 PM 7/7/2008, you wrote:

 On Jul 7, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:

  Actually 10,000 PCs. Most were not lost, they were abandoned.


  An even worse scenario.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Sorry (should have been Re: cancelling Comcast)

2008-07-08 Thread Larry Sacks
Unless you're on a long-term contract, you should be able to cancel
everything as of that day and not have to pay for anything you don't or
won't use.

If they ask you to pay for the rest of the month, I'd contact your local
City government.  While they probably have little to do with the
Internet service, they do have some say over Comcast's TV service.

Larry

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David K Watson
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:56 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: [CGUYS] Sorry (should have been Re: cancelling Comcast)

Expletive it!  That is the second time in a row that I have forgotten to
edit the subject line to reflect the message I was replying to.  Even  
worse,
when I tried to correct myself last time, I discovered I'd sent the  
message
to myself!  Too much vacation, I guess.  I'll try to be more careful  
in the future.

(I get the mailing list in digest form,
otherwise I'd be checking my email way too often.)

I'm including the errant message below so that searches will find it
properly:

 I am also getting rid of Comcast for Verizon FIOS.  I am scheduled for
 Friday, July 18 for the FIOS install.  Verizon told me to wait until  
 I was
 completely sure that the FIOS install was done properly before  
 canceling
 Comcast.  I figure that the weekend will be long enough for me to  
 see if
 the FIOS is working, and I will be canceling the following Monday.
 I have a Comcast (dis)service center less than a mile away and will be
 taking my cable box and remote there and cancel in person.  I suspect
 that I will have to pay out for the whole billing period, though.

 David

 On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:10:28 gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date:Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:10:28 -0400
 From:gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: cancelling Comcast

 anyone have experience cancelling comcast.  both internet and TV. I  
 have had comcast since the day they arrived in my area a few years  
 ago.  it finally works.

 i have decided to go to FIOS.

 i had verizon high speed internet at my factory.  they answered the  
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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Judy Cosler

and it's only in the xx biggest airports (don't remember the figure)

Steve Rigby wrote:

On Jul 8, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Mike Sloane wrote:


I have been following this thread, and I found the number of 10,000
per month just astounding.


  Actually, I think you have misread the figures.  It is 10,000 per week.

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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Well there is another way to treat stuff that comes over an email list.

It is called the delete key.

Use it judiciously.

Stewart


At 10:36 AM 7/8/2008, you wrote:

I was wondering just how long someone would point that out.

Perhaps we should start rating Tom's negative comments about PCs like a
movie or restaurant.

I thought Tom's recent post was even more derisive than normal.  It
felt to me, as if it touched some sort of nerve with him.

Or

While Tom's comment was enjoyable, it was way too predictable and quite
frankly, pedantic.

We're just sayin' this stuff 'cause we love you Tommy! :-)


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread gerald
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/147739/laptops_lost_like_hot_cakes_at_us_airports.html_

the study was funded by dell, who is introducing a new laptop tracking 
system!! 


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Actually they measure only B and C class airports which are some of 
our busier airports.


I usually fly out of a Class (I don't know) airport which is a local 
feeder to Atlanta.


There are only less than a half dozen flights out and they are all on 
Delta so  do not think we have that many lost Laptops here.


Stewart

At 11:53 AM 7/8/2008, you wrote:

and it's only in the xx biggest airports (don't remember the figure)

Steve Rigby wrote:

On Jul 8, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Mike Sloane wrote:


I have been following this thread, and I found the number of 10,000
per month just astounding.


  Actually, I think you have misread the figures.  It is 10,000 per week.

  Steve


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[CGUYS] MyWebSearch

2008-07-08 Thread Christopher
I removed this from my computer(or so I thought).  But, A driver keeps 
getting searched for.  I think it is even causing multiple crashes.  How 
can I get rid of what, is apparently still on the computer?


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 8, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

I am just trying to figure out where all the laptops go.  Somewhere  
there must be a huge store room full of them.


  Maybe.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 8, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Larry Sacks wrote:


I was wondering just how long someone would point that out.

Perhaps we should start rating Tom's negative comments about PCs  
like a

movie or restaurant.


  He'd probably love it.  Like it or not, Tom has his opinions and  
we know some of what he thinks.  But, he's not totally adoring of  
Apple either, and he'll tell you that.  I think he likes their  
hardware a bit more these days than all of their recent software moves.


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 8, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Tony B wrote:


I think the study is flawed. If not, why hasn't any of us heard of
this auction of thousands of unclaimed laptops?


  There are many things that we do not hear of.



I have yet to see a pile of forgotten laptops at any TSA screening
area. Much more likely, since the study includes it, is theft.


  Whadda ya mean, much more likely?  Who is to say that it is not  
TSA people who are the culprits, or involved in some way.  The study  
showed that most of the disappearances appear to occur at the TSA  
security checkpoints.


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread gerald
could you elaborate on  that for me, as in my opinion,

the whole purpose of advertising is to sell people what they don't need.



At 01:53 PM 7/8/2008, you wrote:

  That fact has not gone unnoticed.  However, since laptop tracking  
systems are going to fast become one of the new things to opt for,  
that, in and of itself, tells you there is a problem.

  Steve


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[CGUYS] Message from Win XP

2008-07-08 Thread Rosenberg, Alan [USA]
I am periodically having IE6/SP2 crash, with a display of the following
message:
 
The instruction at 0x027a9350 referenced memory at 0x027a9350. The
memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program.
 
Any thoughts on what this is about?
 
Thanks, 
 
Alan


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Larry Sacks
Maybe there's more thefts at the TSA security checkpoints since owners
can be more separated from their laptops?

Years ago, when going through a security checkpoint - before there was a
TSA - someone accidentally picked up my laptop as it got through the
x-ray machine before I was able to retrieve it.  I saw it and made a
fuss.  (And yes, it was a PC laptop - a HP Omnibook 600c). 

Larry

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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:40 AM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

On Jul 8, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Tony B wrote:

 I think the study is flawed. If not, why hasn't any of us heard of
 this auction of thousands of unclaimed laptops?

   There are many things that we do not hear of.


 I have yet to see a pile of forgotten laptops at any TSA screening
 area. Much more likely, since the study includes it, is theft.

   Whadda ya mean, much more likely?  Who is to say that it is not  
TSA people who are the culprits, or involved in some way.  The study  
showed that most of the disappearances appear to occur at the TSA  
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Re: [CGUYS] Message from Win XP

2008-07-08 Thread Larry Sacks
Check for Windows Updates - both critical and High Priority and Optional
Software updates.

SP3 might be listed as a critical update - I'd pass on installing that
in looking for a remedy for this problem.

Other things to check for would be toolbars - like the Google or Yahoo
Toolbar.  But I'd start with Windows Updates first.

Larry

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Subject: [CGUYS] Message from Win XP

I am periodically having IE6/SP2 crash, with a display of the following
message:
 
The instruction at 0x027a9350 referenced memory at 0x027a9350. The
memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program.
 
Any thoughts on what this is about?
 
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Re: [CGUYS] Message from Win XP

2008-07-08 Thread mike
Why would you pass?

Mike

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Larry Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Check for Windows Updates - both critical and High Priority and Optional
 Software updates.

 SP3 might be listed as a critical update - I'd pass on installing that
 in looking for a remedy for this problem.

 Other things to check for would be toolbars - like the Google or Yahoo
 Toolbar.  But I'd start with Windows Updates first.

 Larry

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 Subject: [CGUYS] Message from Win XP

 I am periodically having IE6/SP2 crash, with a display of the following
 message:

 The instruction at 0x027a9350 referenced memory at 0x027a9350. The
 memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program.

 Any thoughts on what this is about?

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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Howard Wall
I've been watching this thread and I'm really tired of Mr. Rigby's 
unsubstantiated accusations of theft by TSA employees.  The article says 
that 69% of the laptops are not reclaimed it does NOT say they were not 
recovered.


I work for TSA and most of the people I work with are HONEST people 
interested in ensuring the flying public can safely get from point A to 
point B.  Some are young people just entering the workforce, some are 
retirees supplementing their income, and some of them are jerks. 
However, theft is not tolerated.  I have seen officers terminated for 
failing to turn in the change people leave in the plastic bowls. So, 
please stop spouting random garbage about TSA stealing thousands of laptops.


If you are interesting in the real world of lost laptops at airport 
security here it is:


When a computer is left at a security checkpoint, a page announcing the 
lost computer is sent out if the checkpoint has access to a paging 
system.  Otherwise, the computer is held at the security checkpoint 
until the end of the shift and then turned over to the local TSA 
operations center.  The operations center logs the laptop serial number 
and turns it over to airport lost and found.  Most airports maintain 
their lost and found inventory for a specific period of time then 
auction off the items.  Check local auctions to find out when they 
auction off lost and found items and you can probably get your hands on 
a decent laptop at a very good price.


Having read the article I do believe that 10,000 laptops are left at 
airports every month.  On any given day 5+ laptops are left at my 
airport and my airport probably isn't in the 36 busiest category.  Most 
of these laptops are left by travelers rushing to catch a flight.


Howard

Steve Rigby wrote:

On Jul 8, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Tony B wrote:


Whadda ya mean, much more likely?  Who is to say that it is not TSA
people who are the culprits, or involved in some way.  The study showed 
that most of the disappearances appear to occur at the TSA security 
checkpoints.


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Fred Holmes
Why even take the trouble to delete the message?  Just leave it sit unread.  
There's plenty of space on today's large hard drives.

Fred Holmes

At 11:47 AM 7/8/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Well there is another way to treat stuff that comes over an email list.

It is called the delete key.

Use it judiciously.

Stewart


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Re: [CGUYS] Message from Win XP

2008-07-08 Thread Tony B
It's probably file corruption in IE6. The good news: You shouldn't be
using IE6 anyway. Upgrade to IE7. Or better yet, Firefox or Opera.


On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Rosenberg, Alan [USA]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am periodically having IE6/SP2 crash, with a display of the following
 message:

 The instruction at 0x027a9350 referenced memory at 0x027a9350. The
 memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program.


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Re: [CGUYS] Message from Win XP

2008-07-08 Thread Larry Sacks
I'm waiting for others to finish testing it.

There were some early reports of some issues with SP3 - within a few
days of its release if I recall correctly.

We're also using Dell's Image Direct for our images and the company
behind that isn't yet supporting SP3...

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Why would you pass?

Mike

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Larry Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Check for Windows Updates - both critical and High Priority and
Optional
 Software updates.

 SP3 might be listed as a critical update - I'd pass on installing that
 in looking for a remedy for this problem.

 Other things to check for would be toolbars - like the Google or Yahoo
 Toolbar.  But I'd start with Windows Updates first.

 Larry

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 I am periodically having IE6/SP2 crash, with a display of the
following
 message:

 The instruction at 0x027a9350 referenced memory at 0x027a9350. The
 memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program.

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Re: [CGUYS] Message from Win XP

2008-07-08 Thread Fred Holmes
Flaky memory?  Some memory will pass a test that reads the memory address 
immediately after it has been written, but will fail if the read occurs many 
minutes later.  The leak (loss of charge) is slow, and it takes a while for 
the 1 to bleed down to a 0.

When a memory address can't be read it usually means that the read has failed 
CRC check or whatever data validation process each read is subjected to.

Fred Holmes

At 04:05 PM 7/8/2008, Rosenberg, Alan [USA] wrote:
I am periodically having IE6/SP2 crash, with a display of the following
message:
 
The instruction at 0x027a9350 referenced memory at 0x027a9350. The
memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program.
 
Any thoughts on what this is about?
 
Thanks, 
 
Alan


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Re: [CGUYS] Message from Win XP

2008-07-08 Thread Mike Sloane
I was going to suggest swapping the position of you memory boards and 
see if you don't end up with errors in other applications - a sure sign 
that you have one bad memory board.


Mike

Fred Holmes wrote:

Flaky memory?  Some memory will pass a test that reads the memory
address immediately after it has been written, but will fail if the
read occurs many minutes later.  The leak (loss of charge) is slow,
and it takes a while for the 1 to bleed down to a 0.

When a memory address can't be read it usually means that the read
has failed CRC check or whatever data validation process each read is
subjected to.

Fred Holmes

At 04:05 PM 7/8/2008, Rosenberg, Alan [USA] wrote:

I am periodically having IE6/SP2 crash, with a display of the
following message:

The instruction at 0x027a9350 referenced memory at 0x027a9350.
The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the
program.

Any thoughts on what this is about?

Thanks,

Alan



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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 8, 2008, at 4:08 PM, gerald wrote:

the whole purpose of advertising is to sell people what they don't  
need.


  Maybe.  Maybe not.  The Lo-Jackā„¢ concept began with the  
automobile.  Cars do get stolen and car theft is a problem.  With my  
car, there would be no need for such.  Within a very short period of  
time, the service would cost me more than the car is worth.  Someone  
else, however, with a different car and in a different locality may  
view things otherwise.


  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Steve Rigby

On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Howard Wall wrote:

I've been watching this thread and I'm really tired of Mr. Rigby's  
unsubstantiated accusations of theft by TSA employees.


  I believe I have written only the following entries in reference  
to TSA employees:


  Whadda ya mean, much more likely?  Who is to say that it is not  
TSA people who are the culprits, or involved in some way.  The study  
showed that most of the disappearances appear to occur at the TSA  
security checkpoints.

+++

  According to a recent post here on this subject, TSA will make  
announcements about forgotten computers, at least at Dulles  
International.

+++

   I wrote the first one above on July 8, and the second on July 7.   
I did not accuse TSA employees of theft in either.


  You have explained the process that is to be employed by TSA if  
they come upon a computer that has been left behind, and I am sure  
that everyone appreciated your explanation.


  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?

2008-07-08 Thread Larry Sacks
Ahh... you must drive a BMW.

You do know BMW stands for Break My Wallet 

Or is that Break My Window - something I heard growing up in the NY
area... ;-) 

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On Jul 8, 2008, at 4:08 PM, gerald wrote:

 the whole purpose of advertising is to sell people what they don't  
 need.

   Maybe.  Maybe not.  The Lo-Jack(tm) concept began with the  
automobile.  Cars do get stolen and car theft is a problem.  With my  
car, there would be no need for such.  Within a very short period of  
time, the service would cost me more than the car is worth.  Someone  
else, however, with a different car and in a different locality may  
view things otherwise.

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Re: [CGUYS] US is access loser

2008-07-08 Thread Art Clemons

I agree, but the studies were for adults.  I don't believe the safety of rf
exposure to young children over time is settled science.  Wouldn't you be
loath to accept such exposure as a PZB member only to find out 20 years down
the road those kids are sick from it ??


Then you should really oppose the practice of giving children cell 
phones, the RF exposure from a cell phone next to the head is a lot 
higher than that from any cell phone tower.



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