Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad
If music isn't your thing, that's ok. For some people it's in their lives more. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Well anyone that would find it hard to buy ten songs a month...who bought into a service because they love getting new music, must have other issues we can't cover here without multiple therapists Some months I can easily contemplate not hearing 10 new songs worth keeping. M$ tends to be a favorite of the indiscriminate. No? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I wonder
I figured you had pulled this one from your nether regions...just wanted to hear you say it. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: And where are your surveys that they stay in service for twice as long? Please provide irrefutable evidence of your existence. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I wonder
Please remind me where this comes from. I'm trying to think. Mason Williams comes to mind. There are no empty tabasco sauce bottles. Jeff M On May 19, 2009, at 10:12 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I AM. Therefore I exist. I think therefore I am, I think. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I wonder
I don't just think I AM, I know I AM, that is why I wrote I AM. (It is also a theological pun) Stewart At 12:12 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I AM. Therefore I exist. I think therefore I am, I think. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I wonder
Pot calling kettle... I give what I get from Tom. I asked nicely, he non answered in his own smartass way. I replied in kind. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Perhaps the fact that you seem to go out of your way to disparage him may have something to do with how he addresses you? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Thanks...that's all I was asking. Instead we get more smartass from Tom. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] NeoOffice 3.0/Mac PPC or Intel vs. OpenOffice 2.4/Mac PPC vs. OpenOffice 3.1/Mac Intel ?
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Alvin Auerbach alvin.auerb...@verizon.net wrote: I think that for now I'm better off using NeoOffice 3.0 rather than OpenOffice 2.4, and that when I get an iMac Intel, evaluate switching from NeoOffice X.Y to OpenOffice X.(Y+1). Opinions? Use what will work for you now. It'll likely work just the same when you move to the Intel Mac. If you like it now, you'll probably like it just as much later on. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I wonder
I figured you had pulled this one from your nether regions...just wanted to hear you say it. I know your shtick. Challenge everything. Deny everything. The classic OJ defense. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I wonder
I know your shtick, make up everything, prove nothing...keep moving and jabbing till they give up on trying to get some truth out of you. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I figured you had pulled this one from your nether regions...just wanted to hear you say it. I know your shtick. Challenge everything. Deny everything. The classic OJ defense. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Firefox tabs error
When I right click on a link that turns out to be dead... and tell it to open in a new tab, it opens up a Can't find this page message... on every open window I have. Broadbandreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/ has a list of DNS servers you can use. Switch DNS. I have several Locations that I use in addition to Verizon's [my ISP] DNS. Here are a few of the thousands of choices, http://www.dnsserverlist.org/. Sometimes DNS requires that the http://www... prefix the rest of the URL. Some services add that automatically. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
Yes and no. Music is Music. CD/DVD/LP/Cassette/MP3 are all mediums to deliver the content of music. Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. The medium it is presented in determines how it can be used. When I was in school we carried books, and marked them according to our studies. Eve today some books that I read for work are books that I mark and dog ear pages for further reference. However there is a class of books that may be more useful presented in an electronic format that and that is reference books. In each occupation there is a group of books that we use for reference. Books that sit on the shelf and that are brought down to look up a point a reference, a point of interest that we might be using in a class, a paper etc. Already in theology there are a huge portion of our reference libraries that are available on disk that make buying the physical books obsolete and much easier to carry and move. These books I can see putting on an electronic medium to use. I carry a sleection of paperback title with me on my smartphone and my pda so I have a ready book to read when I am traveling or stuck somewhere. My smartphone and PDA are much easier to carry than a kindle. SO I think it will depend on the situation. In some cases the book is similar enough to an MP3 that it can be put on an electronic format and in some cases it is not. Stewart At 11:05 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: I hope the electronic Kindle, and the like, doesn't replace printed books. Are electronic books sufficiently similar to MP3s that they will do to books what MP3s did to CDs? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I wonder
Perhaps the fact that you seem to go out of your way to disparage him may have something to do with how he addresses you? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Thanks...that's all I was asking. Instead we get more smartass from Tom. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
Those who support physically abusive interrogation techniques, AKA torture when done to us, simply say that it is righteous when we do it because we are the good guys. That and just following orders are the classic defenses. Closer to topic another such bogus defense is to blame your evil deeds on market forces or the supposed action of the free market. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I wonder
Thanks...that's all I was asking. Instead we get more smartass from Tom. Thanks, Betty. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:04 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: And where are your surveys that they stay in service for twice as long? The Gartner Group has done several detailed studies and reports for creative professionals comparing TCO of Mac and Windows computers. The Macs have always had lower TCO and longer usable life. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
I hope the electronic Kindle, and the like, doesn't replace printed books. Are electronic books sufficiently similar to MP3s that they will do to books what MP3s did to CDs? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad
Maybe in your made up subscription service...but not the one we were talking about. You seem to like doing that, change what is true into what is not, then argue that. You end up arguing with yourself more then anyone else this way. I can imagine seeing you in a grocery..alone in the aisle...arguing about which vegetables to buy. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: If music isn't your thing, that's ok. For some people it's in their lives more. If music IS your life then you will be plugged into the various music sites and blogs that will provide you with a flood of tunes, mostly for free. You will also be griping about the limited variety of tunes you get from any single music source. If music IS NOT your life then you will not be so excited about the monthly fees, free choices that expire each month, keeping track of what is permanent and what is not, etc. etc. This is the dilemma facing any subscription music service. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
I'm not necessarily a proponent for electronic readers but just note that with Kindle you can take notes on pages, insert bookmarks etc... Never done it myself but just know that you can. One thing about all electronic data systems ... e-publishing systems being one of them ... it seems to me that there is a high degree of longterm societal dependency on electricity, communication systems and on for profit/ independent organization's abilities and willingness to keep them up and going. In a loose way, our current financial market derivatives problem is a metaphor that illustrates how that kind of centralized dependence can ultimately let us down in big ways... db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Yes and no. Music is Music. CD/DVD/LP/Cassette/MP3 are all mediums to deliver the content of music. Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. The medium it is presented in determines how it can be used. When I was in school we carried books, and marked them according to our studies. Eve today some books that I read for work are books that I mark and dog ear pages for further reference. However there is a class of books that may be more useful presented in an electronic format that and that is reference books. In each occupation there is a group of books that we use for reference. Books that sit on the shelf and that are brought down to look up a point a reference, a point of interest that we might be using in a class, a paper etc. Already in theology there are a huge portion of our reference libraries that are available on disk that make buying the physical books obsolete and much easier to carry and move. These books I can see putting on an electronic medium to use. I carry a sleection of paperback title with me on my smartphone and my pda so I have a ready book to read when I am traveling or stuck somewhere. My smartphone and PDA are much easier to carry than a kindle. SO I think it will depend on the situation. In some cases the book is similar enough to an MP3 that it can be put on an electronic format and in some cases it is not. Stewart At 11:05 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote: I hope the electronic Kindle, and the like, doesn't replace printed books. Are electronic books sufficiently similar to MP3s that they will do to books what MP3s did to CDs? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I sometimes buy from Audible. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I sometimes buy from Audible. I don't think that would work well for me. My reading speed varies depending on the content of the book. For most fiction, I zoom through it faster than someone could read aloud. For programming books, I zip through the bits that review topics with which I'm familiar, and slow down when a new (to me) concept is explained. Books explaining some of the math behind 3D graphics (for example), I plod through to soak in as much knowledge as possible. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
I listen to audiobooks all the time, but always in situations where books wouldn't do well. At work at times, in the car a lot...they are fantastic for long commutes. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I sometimes buy from Audible. I don't think that would work well for me. My reading speed varies depending on the content of the book. For most fiction, I zoom through it faster than someone could read aloud. For programming books, I zip through the bits that review topics with which I'm familiar, and slow down when a new (to me) concept is explained. Books explaining some of the math behind 3D graphics (for example), I plod through to soak in as much knowledge as possible. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer
Hi - I just got a new little Compaq cheapie computer (CQ2009 Desktop PC) for my mom to replace her old one. I turned the old one off - monitor working just fine. Started hooking up the new computer (attached Envision monitor which has always worked perfectly, keyboard, etc.) Turned on the computer (light came on and it sounded OK) but when I tried to turn on the monitor - the light on it did not come on. The light on its power supply was on. I turned off computer. Did lots of plugging and ubplugging all to no avail. Any thoughts about what happened? I don't have another monitor to try on it, and am afraid to borrow one - as I wonder if the computer did something to cause the monitor not to work. Thanks for any help. My poor little mom was so looking forward to getting this set up!! Her old one had slowed to being unusable even after I did everything I oculd think of to try to get it working better. Please copy to me any answer as I get the digest. --Kathy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer
Can you try the monitor on another computer? Even try it on the old one would be a valid test of the monitor's health. On May 20, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Kathy Bilton wrote: Hi - I just got a new little Compaq cheapie computer (CQ2009 Desktop PC) for my mom to replace her old one. I turned the old one off - monitor working just fine. Started hooking up the new computer (attached Envision monitor which has always worked perfectly, keyboard, etc.) Turned on the computer (light came on and it sounded OK) but when I tried to turn on the monitor - the light on it did not come on. The light on its power supply was on. I turned off computer. Did lots of plugging and ubplugging all to no avail. Any thoughts about what happened? I don't have another monitor to try on it, and am afraid to borrow one - as I wonder if the computer did something to cause the monitor not to work. Thanks for any help. My poor little mom was so looking forward to getting this set up!! Her old one had slowed to being unusable even after I did everything I oculd think of to try to get it working better. Please copy to me any answer as I get the digest. --Kathy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
Somewhat the same here. Audiobooks are great when spending an otherwise boring 45 minutes on a treadmill. Or that 5 hour drive to NY. I also enjoy a half hour listen after turning out the lights in bed. Like being read to as a kid. Didn't mean to sound like an audiobook fanatic. I fully understand other folks joy in a physical book. mike wrote: I listen to audiobooks all the time, but always in situations where books wouldn't do well. At work at times, in the car a lot...they are fantastic for long commutes. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I sometimes buy from Audible. I don't think that would work well for me. My reading speed varies depending on the content of the book. For most fiction, I zoom through it faster than someone could read aloud. For programming books, I zip through the bits that review topics with which I'm familiar, and slow down when a new (to me) concept is explained. Books explaining some of the math behind 3D graphics (for example), I plod through to soak in as much knowledge as possible. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
That was exactly what I was getting at. IN some instances an audio book is great. In other instances it does not translate well. I am a great fan of the Audio book reader on NPR, and he usually reads light fiction which works well. A more intense book, such as a work volume takes more time and study. Stewart At 03:56 PM 5/20/2009, you wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I sometimes buy from Audible. I don't think that would work well for me. My reading speed varies depending on the content of the book. For most fiction, I zoom through it faster than someone could read aloud. For programming books, I zip through the bits that review topics with which I'm familiar, and slow down when a new (to me) concept is explained. Books explaining some of the math behind 3D graphics (for example), I plod through to soak in as much knowledge as possible. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
In a loose way, our current financial market derivatives problem is a metaphor that illustrates how that kind of centralized dependence can ultimately let us down in big ways... Close to on topic would be making this connection with music subscription services. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
The last audio book I listened to in the car had a very intense passage which I was deeply involved in. Right up to the point where the officer pulled me over for missing the 30mph speed limit sign after exiting the expressway. He did let me go after hearing my excuse. I now use audio books in a much safer venue. Richard P. wrote: That was exactly what I was getting at. IN some instances an audio book is great. In other instances it does not translate well. I am a great fan of the Audio book reader on NPR, and he usually reads light fiction which works well. A more intense book, such as a work volume takes more time and study. At 03:56 PM 5/20/2009, you wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I sometimes buy from Audible. I don't think that would work well for me. My reading speed varies depending on the content of the book. For most fiction, I zoom through it faster than someone could read aloud. For programming books, I zip through the bits that review topics with which I'm familiar, and slow down when a new (to me) concept is explained. Books explaining some of the math behind 3D graphics (for example), I plod through to soak in as much knowledge as possible. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/ vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad
Maybe in your made up subscription service...but not the one we were talking about. You seem to like doing that, change what is true into what is not, then argue that. You end up arguing with yourself more then anyone else this way. I can imagine seeing you in a grocery..alone in the aisle...arguing about which vegetables to buy. There you go again - don't discuss the topic, just call people names. Doing this is so destructive to the proper conduct of a discussion list that it ought to be a capital crime. So this discussion is now over. You lose. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer
Wed, 20 May 2009, at about 17:55, Matthew Taylor averred: :Can you try the monitor on another computer? Even try it on the old one would :be a valid test of the monitor's health. The light on the monitor no longer comes on when one tries to turn it on even when it's just plugged into the outlet and not connected to the computer. --Kathy : : :On May 20, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Kathy Bilton wrote: : : Hi - : : I just got a new little Compaq cheapie computer (CQ2009 Desktop PC) for my : mom to replace her old one. I turned the old one off - monitor working just : fine. Started hooking up the new computer (attached Envision monitor which : has always worked perfectly, keyboard, etc.) Turned on the computer (light : came on and it sounded OK) but when I tried to turn on the monitor - the : light on it did not come on. The light on its power supply was on. I turned : off computer. Did lots of plugging and ubplugging all to no avail. : : Any thoughts about what happened? I don't have another monitor to try on it, : and am afraid to borrow one - as I wonder if the computer did something to : cause the monitor not to work. : : Thanks for any help. My poor little mom was so looking forward to getting : this set up!! Her old one had slowed to being unusable even after I did : everything I oculd think of to try to get it working better. : : Please copy to me any answer as I get the digest. : : --Kathy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
I totally agree about the need for books. There's nothing like the nostalgic feeling that comes from smelling a musty book pulled from the shelves. I love Macs, but will never get that feeling if I came across my old GS 2. Books are so physical. So is my cell phone, but in a very different way. Books become part of your soul. Trying to explain it is like trying to explain faith. I don't think it's really possible. Jeff M On May 20, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Yes and no. Music is Music. CD/DVD/LP/Cassette/MP3 are all mediums to deliver the content of music. Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. The medium it is presented in determines how it can be used. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
I know. I have a partial set of books published before the revolutionary war, Hard bound in Leather with old pages and old German script. Recalling the history of those books and what they must of meant for the owners over the centuries is awesome. Stewart At 07:54 PM 5/20/2009, you wrote: I totally agree about the need for books. There's nothing like the nostalgic feeling that comes from smelling a musty book pulled from the shelves. I love Macs, but will never get that feeling if I came across my old GS 2. Books are so physical. So is my cell phone, but in a very different way. Books become part of your soul. Trying to explain it is like trying to explain faith. I don't think it's really possible. Jeff M On May 20, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Yes and no. Music is Music. CD/DVD/LP/Cassette/MP3 are all mediums to deliver the content of music. Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. The medium it is presented in determines how it can be used. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
I wanted to add to this after reading some of the other comments. To each their own. But for me a book on an electronic screen or being read to me is much like the read me files that come with applications. I rarely read them. With the exception of email, the closest I've come to really get interested in electronic media are editorials and local letters to the editor. I guess I need to back track on that. I'm a TV addict. But that's mostly news and history channels stuff. Here's another take on it. My mother is an English teacher via online courses through our local college. Even she prints student papers out to read them. She'll then go back and make corrections online. But there's something about having the printed copy in your hand. I still can't explain it. Of course I haven't figured out how to text message on my cell phone either. Is this what getting old is all about? Jeff M On May 20, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I know. I have a partial set of books published before the revolutionary war, Hard bound in Leather with old pages and old German script. Recalling the history of those books and what they must of meant for the owners over the centuries is awesome. Stewart At 07:54 PM 5/20/2009, you wrote: I totally agree about the need for books. There's nothing like the nostalgic feeling that comes from smelling a musty book pulled from the shelves. I love Macs, but will never get that feeling if I came across my old GS 2. Books are so physical. So is my cell phone, but in a very different way. Books become part of your soul. Trying to explain it is like trying to explain faith. I don't think it's really possible. Jeff M On May 20, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Yes and no. Music is Music. CD/DVD/LP/Cassette/MP3 are all mediums to deliver the content of music. Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. The medium it is presented in determines how it can be used. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer
Was it one of those nasty old D-sub monitor connectors? I once managed to bend pins in one of those suckers. The wire was hard-wired to the old monitor so I basically had to buy a new monitor. Or maybe I managed to bend it back; I can't remember. I dunno if the power light means much anymore. Unless they get a good signal they may not come on. Or light up. : I just got a new little Compaq cheapie computer (CQ2009 Desktop PC) for my : mom to replace her old one. I turned the old one off - monitor working just : fine. Started hooking up the new computer (attached Envision monitor which : has always worked perfectly, keyboard, etc.) Turned on the computer (light : came on and it sounded OK) but when I tried to turn on the monitor - the : light on it did not come on. The light on its power supply was on. I turned : off computer. Did lots of plugging and ubplugging all to no avail. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] urgent query
Hello! I'm new to the list, having joined for the express purpose of asking the following question. (I take it there is no way to search an archive of the list). I love my Imac 24. But for my research I have to travel abroad periodically -- say, for up to 4-6 weeks at a time once a year. The MacBooks are just too heavy, too clunky for the kind of travel and fieldwork that I do. And MacAir is too expensive. So I have been exploring the option of a Netbook. I need it to do all these very basic things: 1) run Firefox. I use Firefox because of an add-on, Zotero, that manages my bibliographic database and stores pdfs (about 1GB worth of material) 2) be able to connect to internet NOT through free wi-fi, because this is not at all convenient. I would like to buy some type of pre- paid access locally in the European countries in which I do my research, a SIMS card or a broadband dongle I can buy, say in Spain from Vodafone. I don't need broadband access in the US, so don't want to buy a Netbook that comes with a US plan. 3) word processing with .doc files I can transfer to my Mac (Naturally, I have Microsoft Office for Mac) 4) create, edit .ppt files that I can transfer to my Mac 5) would be great if it could store my .jpg files that I could view 6) read pdf files with Adobe reader Will I be able to run microsoft office on a Netbook-- at least Word, PowerPoint and maybe Excel? (And presumably these files will transfer to my Mac.) Will any Netbook accommodate a broadband dongle on a USB or SIMS card? -- the specs never mention this. I was thinking of a Samsung NC 10 or an HP mini (a 2410). Grateful for any advice! Marcia * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] urgent query
I think the answer to all your questions are yes. They have multiple USB connectors which is the newest choice for the Phone dongles. They do not have PCMCIA card slots so be aware of that. Also you will need a external CD/DVD to load any CD/DVD based programs. Instead of using MS Office, download and install Openoffice from the net and use it to do all your stuff and then save them in MS format. All files written by Openoffice can be transferred to your Mac without a problem. The HP I think only has a SSD drive and they are kind of small. You will need external storage. (Which you can then use to transfer stuff to your Mac.) Stewart At 09:22 PM 5/20/2009, you wrote: Hello! I'm new to the list, having joined for the express purpose of asking the following question. (I take it there is no way to search an archive of the list). I love my Imac 24. But for my research I have to travel abroad periodically -- say, for up to 4-6 weeks at a time once a year. The MacBooks are just too heavy, too clunky for the kind of travel and fieldwork that I do. And MacAir is too expensive. So I have been exploring the option of a Netbook. I need it to do all these very basic things: 1) run Firefox. I use Firefox because of an add-on, Zotero, that manages my bibliographic database and stores pdfs (about 1GB worth of material) 2) be able to connect to internet NOT through free wi-fi, because this is not at all convenient. I would like to buy some type of pre- paid access locally in the European countries in which I do my research, a SIMS card or a broadband dongle I can buy, say in Spain from Vodafone. I don't need broadband access in the US, so don't want to buy a Netbook that comes with a US plan. 3) word processing with .doc files I can transfer to my Mac (Naturally, I have Microsoft Office for Mac) 4) create, edit .ppt files that I can transfer to my Mac 5) would be great if it could store my .jpg files that I could view 6) read pdf files with Adobe reader Will I be able to run microsoft office on a Netbook-- at least Word, PowerPoint and maybe Excel? (And presumably these files will transfer to my Mac.) Will any Netbook accommodate a broadband dongle on a USB or SIMS card? -- the specs never mention this. I was thinking of a Samsung NC 10 or an HP mini (a 2410). Grateful for any advice! Marcia * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer
Your monitor has died. RIP. Time for a new one. - Original Message - From: Kathy Bilton ka...@fred.net To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] monitor suddenly won't work in new computer Wed, 20 May 2009, at about 17:55, Matthew Taylor averred: :Can you try the monitor on another computer? Even try it on the old one would :be a valid test of the monitor's health. The light on the monitor no longer comes on when one tries to turn it on even when it's just plugged into the outlet and not connected to the computer. --Kathy : : :On May 20, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Kathy Bilton wrote: : : Hi - : : I just got a new little Compaq cheapie computer (CQ2009 Desktop PC) for my : mom to replace her old one. I turned the old one off - monitor working just : fine. Started hooking up the new computer (attached Envision monitor which : has always worked perfectly, keyboard, etc.) Turned on the computer (light : came on and it sounded OK) but when I tried to turn on the monitor - the : light on it did not come on. The light on its power supply was on. I turned : off computer. Did lots of plugging and ubplugging all to no avail. : : Any thoughts about what happened? I don't have another monitor to try on it, : and am afraid to borrow one - as I wonder if the computer did something to : cause the monitor not to work. : : Thanks for any help. My poor little mom was so looking forward to getting : this set up!! Her old one had slowed to being unusable even after I did : everything I oculd think of to try to get it working better. : : Please copy to me any answer as I get the digest. : : --Kathy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?
Marcio wrote: Computers are more or less like womem. When they are working well... wonderfull but when they refuse to respond to our needs...it is very hard to understand... We like it that way. Thanks for noticing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
