[CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar
This explains a lot. Some things run in 32 bit, some in 64 bit. It  
all depends.


http://www.ahatfullofsky.comuv.com/English/Programs/SMS/SMS.html

There is a lot of confusion about the fact that Snow Leopard starts  
by default with a 32-bit kernel even though nearly everything else is  
64-bit (according to Apple all system applications except DVD Player,  
Front Row, Grapher, and iTunes have been rewritten in 64-bit).


Snow Leopard is 64-bit for all users with a 64-bit CPU. The  
applications are, the memory space is. The ONLY THING that doesn't  
load into 64-bit - ON PURPOSE - is the kernel!


The problem is compatibility with third-party drivers. Some programs  
are so deeply intertwined with the OS that they reach deeply into its  
bowels and modify its core, the kernel - these drivers are called  
kernel extensions (or kext).


BTW, the new Mac OS ships this Friday.

M$'s Vista replacement is still way out there in the future.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Not too far I already have pre-orders in for a few copies.

Stewart


At 09:58 AM 8/25/2009, you wrote:

This explains a lot. Some things run in 32 bit, some in 64 bit. It
all depends.

http://www.ahatfullofsky.comuv.com/English/Programs/SMS/SMS.html

There is a lot of confusion about the fact that Snow Leopard starts
by default with a 32-bit kernel even though nearly everything else is
64-bit (according to Apple all system applications except DVD Player,
Front Row, Grapher, and iTunes have been rewritten in 64-bit).

Snow Leopard is 64-bit for all users with a 64-bit CPU. The
applications are, the memory space is. The ONLY THING that doesn't
load into 64-bit - ON PURPOSE - is the kernel!

The problem is compatibility with third-party drivers. Some programs
are so deeply intertwined with the OS that they reach deeply into its
bowels and modify its core, the kernel - these drivers are called
kernel extensions (or kext).

BTW, the new Mac OS ships this Friday.

M$'s Vista replacement is still way out there in the future.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
Was someone asking?

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 7:58 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 This explains a lot. Some things run in 32 bit, some in 64 bit. It all
 depends.

 http://www.ahatfullofsky.comuv.com/English/Programs/SMS/SMS.html

 There is a lot of confusion about the fact that Snow Leopard starts by
 default with a 32-bit kernel even though nearly everything else is 64-bit
 (according to Apple all system applications except DVD Player, Front Row,
 Grapher, and iTunes have been rewritten in 64-bit).

 Snow Leopard is 64-bit for all users with a 64-bit CPU. The applications
 are, the memory space is. The ONLY THING that doesn't load into 64-bit - ON
 PURPOSE - is the kernel!

 The problem is compatibility with third-party drivers. Some programs are
 so deeply intertwined with the OS that they reach deeply into its bowels and
 modify its core, the kernel - these drivers are called kernel extensions (or
 kext).

 BTW, the new Mac OS ships this Friday.

 M$'s Vista replacement is still way out there in the future.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Tony B
I was wondering why some authors have already claimed the new Mac OS
was going to have better compatibility with old 32 bit apps than Win7.
Now I see - basically because the OS is still 32 bit itself.

I'm not at all sure what the comment about Win7 being way in the
future means. Many people - myself included - are running it now, and
it will be released to the public in less than two months.

Interesting that MS has decided to code separate 64 and 32 bit
versions, rather than going the hybrid approach like Apple.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Tony B wrote:

Now I see - basically because the OS is still 32 bit itself.


You don't see all that well (why am I not surprised?).

OS X.6 is set to run a 32-bit kernel as the default. It can be set to  
run a 64-bit kernel or you can just press the 6 and 4 keys during  
startup.


Reasons why have already been described.




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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
You are kicking me off the list for asking?  Nice.

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 On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:34 AM, mike wrote:

 Was someone asking?


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:34 AM, mike wrote:

Was someone asking?


Then butt out. You are not invited to this conversation.




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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

Not too far I already have pre-orders in for a few copies.


Yes I saw, M$ wanted to be paid 3 months ahead on the promise of  
delivering an operating system and the faithful got their credit  
cards out.





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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, mike wrote:

You are kicking me off the list for asking?  Nice.


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Re: [CGUYS] Asking for prepaid cell phone recommendation

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:00 PM, rleesimon wrote:

 I just had a 4 min conversation with
their customer service and with that ...as I rarely if ever text, I  
got that

off halving my internet monthly charge, dropped to 550min/mo reducing
another chunk, was able to retain my more that 5000 minutes of roll  
over and
got unlim nite/mobile-mobile covering all my calls to my wife   
other family

members who have att.  Monthly down to around 70 which is same as 2
crickets would cost, so


With Cricket Respekt and other competition I guess the fat and happy  
cell companies are now having to cut deals with their customers too.


Someday there may be an iPhone in my future! (I know, Win 7 will be  
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
Gimme the little one.  Plaintive and sorrowful.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:34 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:45 PM, mike wrote:

 You are kicking me off the list for asking?  Nice.


 Cue the violins.





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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Tony B
Then why the F didn't you just say that without expecting us to read
that long article?

So now you're saying the only difference is the new Mac OS will
combine both 64 and 32 bit versions in the same package, and the
installer must choose 64 bit manually. Win7 will come in two different
binaries, and the installer must use the correct one.


On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:25 PM, TPiwowart...@tjpa.com wrote:
 OS X.6 is set to run a 32-bit kernel as the default. It can be set to run a
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[CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

http://www.parallels.com/news/id,19860

Parallels Desktop Switch to Mac Edition Offers Lifeline to Frustrated  
PC Users


Switching from PC to Mac is on the rise: analyst reports on  
operating system market share show that Mac OS X market growth comes  
at the expense of Windows’ market share. While the overall PC  
industry saw declines of 3% for the quarter ending in June 2009,  
Apple sales were up 4% year over year¹. According to Apple’s Q309  
report, half of the Macs sold were to customers who had never owned a  
Mac before².


The growth in switching is partially due to the ease-of-use and cool  
capabilities of the Mac, said Serguei Beloussov, CEO of Parallels.  
However, users don’t want to lose the data they have accumulated and  
the applications they are already familiar with. Building on our  
proven track record of Mac innovation, we have addressed this concern  
and made learning the new operating system even simpler through  
interactive on-demand tutorials. These are combined with intelligent  
moving tools and our industry-leading Parallels Desktop for Mac,  
which offers the greatest performance and stability for running  
Windows seamlessly on Mac.


Golly, there is hope for the future.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Tony B wrote:

So now you're saying the only difference is the new Mac OS will
combine both 64 and 32 bit versions in the same package, and the
installer must choose 64 bit manually. Win7 will come in two different
binaries, and the installer must use the correct one.


So Apple has prepared to ease its customers through a transition,  
while M$ has not. OS X.6 is designed to run in either 32 or 64 mode  
and to easily switch between them as customer's needs require. This  
is a good example of the difference between the two companies.





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Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users

2009-08-25 Thread mike
If I click on the link, do you get a kickback?  I'll click twice to help the
economy if so...

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:02 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 http://www.parallels.com/news/id,19860

 Parallels Desktop Switch to Mac Edition Offers Lifeline to Frustrated PC
 Users

 Switching from PC to Mac is on the rise: analyst reports on operating
 system market share show that Mac OS X market growth comes at the expense of
 Windows’ market share. While the overall PC industry saw declines of 3% for
 the quarter ending in June 2009, Apple sales were up 4% year over year¹.
 According to Apple’s Q309 report, half of the Macs sold were to customers
 who had never owned a Mac before².

 The growth in switching is partially due to the ease-of-use and cool
 capabilities of the Mac, said Serguei Beloussov, CEO of Parallels.
 However, users don’t want to lose the data they have accumulated and the
 applications they are already familiar with. Building on our proven track
 record of Mac innovation, we have addressed this concern and made learning
 the new operating system even simpler through interactive on-demand
 tutorials. These are combined with intelligent moving tools and our
 industry-leading Parallels Desktop for Mac, which offers the greatest
 performance and stability for running Windows seamlessly on Mac.

 Golly, there is hope for the future.


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Jordan
This is interesting stuff. Some if the things I read in the late 90s and 
early 2000s seemed to suggest that the Linux and BSD type platforms were 
antiquated.

Probably FUD.
But Apple is still moving forward and further refining and updating the 
OS X core.



TPiwowar wrote:
This explains a lot. Some things run in 32 bit, some in 64 bit. It all 
depends.


http://www.ahatfullofsky.comuv.com/English/Programs/SMS/SMS.html

There is a lot of confusion about the fact that Snow Leopard starts 
by default with a 32-bit kernel even though nearly everything else is 
64-bit (according to Apple all system applications except DVD Player, 
Front Row, Grapher, and iTunes have been rewritten in 64-bit).


Snow Leopard is 64-bit for all users with a 64-bit CPU. The 
applications are, the memory space is. The ONLY THING that doesn't 
load into 64-bit - ON PURPOSE - is the kernel!


The problem is compatibility with third-party drivers. Some programs 
are so deeply intertwined with the OS that they reach deeply into its 
bowels and modify its core, the kernel - these drivers are called 
kernel extensions (or kext).


BTW, the new Mac OS ships this Friday.




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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Tony B
I can't imagine the need to switch between them will occur often.
Presumably there will be a few people that upgrade their systems in
mid-install, but not many I would imagine. Fewer still will be those
that will do it without _expecting_ to reinstall the OS.

So you're saying if I install OSX 32 bit today, then change my mobo
and CPU, I can simply switch to 64 bit next year? Just throw a switch
and no OS reinstall will be required? Nice, if true.


On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:16 PM, TPiwowart...@tjpa.com wrote:
 On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Tony B wrote:

 So now you're saying the only difference is the new Mac OS will
 combine both 64 and 32 bit versions in the same package, and the
 installer must choose 64 bit manually. Win7 will come in two different
 binaries, and the installer must use the correct one.

 So Apple has prepared to ease its customers through a transition, while M$
 has not. OS X.6 is designed to run in either 32 or 64 mode and to easily
 switch between them as customer's needs require. This is a good example of
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Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users

2009-08-25 Thread Tony B
Don't bother; it's just an ad for software. Oddly, it's software that
allows someone to run their PC on a Mac, which simply means a lot of
those figures Tom's quoting are probably inaccurate. I mean, if
someone buys a Mac and runs their PC on it, are they a Windows user or
a Mac user?


On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:22 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I click on the link, do you get a kickback?  I'll click twice to help the
 economy if so...

 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:02 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 http://www.parallels.com/news/id,19860

 Parallels Desktop Switch to Mac Edition Offers Lifeline to Frustrated PC
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
MS has not because no one would notice that they are running 64bit or
32bit.  The only ones choosing 64 are those who know what it is, the ones
who don't know..well they wouldn't use it anyhow and if they did, they
wouldn't even know it.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Tony B wrote:

 So now you're saying the only difference is the new Mac OS will
 combine both 64 and 32 bit versions in the same package, and the
 installer must choose 64 bit manually. Win7 will come in two different
 binaries, and the installer must use the correct one.


 So Apple has prepared to ease its customers through a transition, while M$
 has not. OS X.6 is designed to run in either 32 or 64 mode and to easily
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Re: [CGUYS] A Lifeline to Frustrated PC Users

2009-08-25 Thread mike
Measuring by the thing that matters..money, they are a mac user.  Apple
makes money on the hardware, not the software so they really give a rats
tail what os you use as long as you buy their hardware.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't bother; it's just an ad for software. Oddly, it's software that
 allows someone to run their PC on a Mac, which simply means a lot of
 those figures Tom's quoting are probably inaccurate. I mean, if
 someone buys a Mac and runs their PC on it, are they a Windows user or
 a Mac user?


 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:22 PM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote:
  If I click on the link, do you get a kickback?  I'll click twice to help
 the
  economy if so...
 
  On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:02 PM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
 
  http://www.parallels.com/news/id,19860
 
  Parallels Desktop Switch to Mac Edition Offers Lifeline to Frustrated PC
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Re: [CGUYS] How to access Documents Settings folder in XP

2009-08-25 Thread Ed Y
 Thanks Mark  Rev.
Worked like a charm.


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[CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Rich Schinnell

An interesting article in Info World.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/snow-leopard-just-cheap-windows-7-knockoff-798

Quoted from the first para..


Where's the beef? That's the idiom that jumps to mind as I work my 
way through Galen Gruman's 
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mac/7-best-features-in-mac-os-x-snow-leopard-573The 
7 best features in Mac OS X Snow Leopard. I knew the features list 
would be lean -- Apple has deliberately undersold Snow Leopard by 
pitching it as a relatively minor release -- but please! Gruman's 
article reads like a laundry list of borrowed features and 
derivative works. It's as if someone at Apple grabbed a copy of the 
Windows 7 beta and simply Xeroxed the release notes.


For example:

64-bitness: Yippee,! Apple finally goes 64-bit -- BFD! As a Windows 
user, I've been livin' la vida 64-bit for more than three years. 
Vista was the first mainstream desktop OS to deliver a viable 64-bit 
experience, and Windows 7 has taken this migration further by making 
it the preferred flavor for business users.



Maybe I will get banned for bringing this up.

I have my reynolds wrap hat on to deflect the AFB's barbs.

Rich

At 03:16 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote:

Date:Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:58:38 -0400
From:TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com
Subject: Mac Transition to 64-Bit

This explains a lot. Some things run in 32 bit, some in 64 bit. It
all depends.

http://www.ahatfullofsky.comuv.com/English/Programs/SMS/SMS.html

There is a lot of confusion about the fact that Snow Leopard starts
by default with a 32-bit kernel even though nearly everything else is
64-bit (according to Apple all system applications except DVD Player,
Front Row, Grapher, and iTunes have been rewritten in 64-bit).

Snow Leopard is 64-bit for all users with a 64-bit CPU. The
applications are, the memory space is. The ONLY THING that doesn't
load into 64-bit - ON PURPOSE - is the kernel!

The problem is compatibility with third-party drivers. Some programs
are so deeply intertwined with the OS that they reach deeply into its
bowels and modify its core, the kernel - these drivers are called
kernel extensions (or kext).

BTW, the new Mac OS ships this Friday.

M$'s Vista replacement is still way out there in the future.



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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread mike
From what I understand this really is an under the hood update.  It's not
meant to be feature ridden for the end user.  I've also read that this
update will introduce technologies that will only be taken advantage of over
time as applications are written specifically for the update.  This is also
true of vista and windows 7, the trouble with those two is MS wants to keep
applications from the days of XP still viable.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Rich Schinnell richnrockvi...@gmail.comwrote:

 An interesting article in Info World.


 http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/snow-leopard-just-cheap-windows-7-knockoff-798

 Quoted from the first para..


  Where's the beef? That's the idiom that jumps to mind as I work my way
 through Galen Gruman's 
 http://www.infoworld.com/d/mac/7-best-features-in-mac-os-x-snow-leopard-573The
 7 best features in Mac OS X Snow Leopard. I knew the features list would be
 lean -- Apple has deliberately undersold Snow Leopard by pitching it as a
 relatively minor release -- but please! Gruman's article reads like a
 laundry list of borrowed features and derivative works. It's as if someone
 at Apple grabbed a copy of the Windows 7 beta and simply Xeroxed the release
 notes.

 For example:

 64-bitness: Yippee,! Apple finally goes 64-bit -- BFD! As a Windows user,
 I've been livin' la vida 64-bit for more than three years. Vista was the
 first mainstream desktop OS to deliver a viable 64-bit experience, and
 Windows 7 has taken this migration further by making it the preferred flavor
 for business users.



 Maybe I will get banned for bringing this up.

 I have my reynolds wrap hat on to deflect the AFB's barbs.

 Rich

 At 03:16 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote:

 Date:Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:58:38 -0400
 From:TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com
 Subject: Mac Transition to 64-Bit

 This explains a lot. Some things run in 32 bit, some in 64 bit. It
 all depends.

 http://www.ahatfullofsky.comuv.com/English/Programs/SMS/SMS.html

 There is a lot of confusion about the fact that Snow Leopard starts
 by default with a 32-bit kernel even though nearly everything else is
 64-bit (according to Apple all system applications except DVD Player,
 Front Row, Grapher, and iTunes have been rewritten in 64-bit).

 Snow Leopard is 64-bit for all users with a 64-bit CPU. The
 applications are, the memory space is. The ONLY THING that doesn't
 load into 64-bit - ON PURPOSE - is the kernel!

 The problem is compatibility with third-party drivers. Some programs
 are so deeply intertwined with the OS that they reach deeply into its
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 kernel extensions (or kext).

 BTW, the new Mac OS ships this Friday.

 M$'s Vista replacement is still way out there in the future.



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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 25, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Rich Schinnell wrote:
http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/snow-leopard-just-cheap- 
windows-7-knockoff-798


Oh pleeese! A half-baked WFB spouting about the wonderfulness of  
Vista plus claims that X.6 is somehow a copy of M$'s yet to be  
released OS. Tell us about how Apple got into Steve's TimeMachine,  
zapped into the future, and came back with copies of M$ innovative  
work. (They also returned with a deed to a bridge to Brooklyn.)


WFBs apparently have not yet figured out that Apple's TimeMachine is  
a backup program.


Read the comments that follow this article. Lots of them:

I'm not even a Mac user and even I can see this article is biased  
rubbish...


If there was only 1 or 2 errors here, I would try to write something  
to shed light on those error, but as it is, the whole article is so  
hopelessly biased and misleading that I feel like the best thing for  
me to do would be to write a very pointed suggestion to the author  
that he amend this article with an apology and promise to do his  
homework before he ever does this kind of bashing again...


As you say, there are no 'issues' in this article to respond to,  
only outright lies and distortions which do not in themselves merit  
much of a response. What is far more interesting than the article's  
content is the dishonesty of the author himself and the willingness  
of IW to condone it.






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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:42 PM, mike wrote:

MS has not because no that they are running 64bit or
32bit.


Got it. Official M$ line is that 64-bit is useless, something that  
no one would notice.


You think we are stupid?




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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Richard P.
I would think that you'll be dead meat after this post :))

Richard P.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Rich Schinnellrichnrockvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 An interesting article in Info World.

 http://www.infoworld.com/d/windows/snow-leopard-just-cheap-windows-7-knockoff-798

 Maybe I will get banned for bringing this up.

 I have my reynolds wrap hat on to deflect the AFB's barbs.

 Rich


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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread TPiwowar

On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Tony B wrote:

So you're saying if I install OSX 32 bit today, then change my mobo
and CPU, I can simply switch to 64 bit next year? Just throw a switch
and no OS reinstall will be required? Nice, if true.


The OS loads either the 32 or 64-bit kernel at startup. Default is  
32. At some point the default will be 64. This doesn't paint  
customers into a corner. Yes very nice -- typical Apple engineering.







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Re: [CGUYS] Google's Sorry

2009-08-25 Thread Ellen Harris
I got this the other day while I was on Boingo in an airport.

It stopped after a few  minutes.

Dunno


--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Richard P. richs...@gmail.com
 Subject: [CGUYS] Google's Sorry
 To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
 Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 7:47 PM
 When I was trying to search on
 Google, I was rejected by them(?) with
 this notice:
 
 Google     Sorry...
 We're sorry...
 
 ... but your computer or network may be sending automated
 queries. To
 protect our users, we can't process your request right
 now.
 To continue searching, please type the characters you see
 below
 
 Is this legit? Has anyone else seen this before?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Richard P.
 
 
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Re: [CGUYS] Mac Transition to 64-Bit

2009-08-25 Thread Jeff Wright
 Nope they don't get paid until it is shipped!  Did not order through
 MS, ordered through merchants who cannot charge until it is shipped.,

Who's on first? is very important to Tom.  Humor him and maybe he'll shut
up about it.

Good show old boy!  Maybe next time is when we catch the weasel in the act
before you do!  Jolly good!
 
 Get your facts straight.

Tom uses facts?


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[CGUYS] Sudden Mac OS X V4 Inefficiency

2009-08-25 Thread Arnold Kee
Hello all:

Are there gremlins out to get me? I swear that the day I said to myself that 
one of the reasons why I continued to favor my MAC over the PC laptops I get 
with each job is how much more efficient it is when using the internet..all 
of a sudden, it now acts really slowly and fails to connect with my wireless 
network consistently. Meanwhile, my PC Laptop, issued with Windows 2007 works 
fine. They could be sitting right next to each other, the PC keeps receiving 
and pushing out within the home wireless network, while the MAC stutters. This 
is not meant to instigate yet another virtual knife fight among various users. 
I'm just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this problem and whether 
there's a fix. I tried to get on a Genius Bar waiting list, but they are booked 
solid.
Internet diagnostics for the MAC say that internet is working fine, and I 
downloaded the ProtectMac trial version to check for malicious code--nothing 
found.
In one search there was the suggestion that there may be a DNS problem...that 
is, the MAC is having trouble translating word versions of addresses into their 
numerical IP addresses. Does that make sense?
This is pretty frustrating because I don't know how to begin to diagnose the 
real problem, I've just isolated it because I know that it's not my router, or 
internet connectionelse I wouldn't be able to send this email with my work 
laptop.
Thanks, Arnold





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Re: [CGUYS] Sudden Mac OS X V4 Inefficiency

2009-08-25 Thread Ellen Harris
Change your DNS servers on the Mac to 208.67.222.222 and  208.67.220.220  and 
see if it makes a difference.



--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Arnold Kee a...@expandingthecircle.org wrote:

 From: Arnold Kee a...@expandingthecircle.org
 Subject: [CGUYS] Sudden Mac OS X V4 Inefficiency
 To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
 Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 10:15 PM
 Hello all:
 
 Are there gremlins out to get me? I swear that the day I
 said to myself that one of the reasons why I continued to
 favor my MAC over the PC laptops I get with each job is how
 much more efficient it is when using the internet..all
 of a sudden, it now acts really slowly and fails to connect
 with my wireless network consistently. Meanwhile, my PC
 Laptop, issued with Windows 2007 works fine. They could be
 sitting right next to each other, the PC keeps receiving and
 pushing out within the home wireless network, while the MAC
 stutters. This is not meant to instigate yet another virtual
 knife fight among various users. I'm just wondering if
 anyone else is experiencing this problem and whether there's
 a fix. I tried to get on a Genius Bar waiting list, but they
 are booked solid.
 Internet diagnostics for the MAC say that internet is
 working fine, and I downloaded the ProtectMac trial version
 to check for malicious code--nothing found.
 In one search there was the suggestion that there may be a
 DNS problem...that is, the MAC is having trouble translating
 word versions of addresses into their numerical IP
 addresses. Does that make sense?
 This is pretty frustrating because I don't know how to
 begin to diagnose the real problem, I've just isolated it
 because I know that it's not my router, or internet
 connectionelse I wouldn't be able to send this email
 with my work laptop.
 Thanks, Arnold
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [CGUYS] Asking for prepaid cell phone recommendation

2009-08-25 Thread b_s-wilk

I live in No. Va. also and use T-Mobile pre-paid for uses like you describe.
Advantages:
- low cost: first year I paid $100 for 1000 min.  Used 500 in first year, 
second year is $50 for another year.  Hard to beat $4 per month.
Disadvantages:  T-Mobile coverage is spotty.  OK here.  Non-existent or weak other areas.  Need to check coverage map for where you go. 


I also have T-Mobile. Has great coverage where I need it except at home. 
Have to go outside to make phone calls. Thank goodness for land lines.


I've been considering buying either a DuoSim to put two SIM cards in my 
phone, or GSM 6 in 1 or SIM Max cloner card that can hold 6 or 12 
different cellular account numbers on one SIM card. This is so I can use 
one or more secondary service [SpeakOut, Net10, etc.] that uses the ATT 
network where I have no T-Mobile coverage. Using 2 or 3 different 
accounts as PAYGO will still cost less than a monthly account.


Has anyone tried the 'GSM 6 in 1' or 'SIM Max' cloner cards? Chad?


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Re: [CGUYS] Asking for prepaid cell phone recommendation

2009-08-25 Thread b_s-wilk

Actually, that's $8.33/mo the first year. Hard to say how long you could
keep renewing minutes after that as the networks change and to get the
better coverage you may need a new phone.

Still, $4.15/mo for 10 minutes of phone calls is pretty bad. Not so long ago
that used to cost about $0.25 cents.


$8.33/mo or $4.15/mo are both excellent bargains when you consider that 
the only other choices are monthly plans for a lot more, or PAYGO plans 
with minutes that expire in 30/60/90 days.


Networks do change, usually giving you better coverage. As long as you 
use GSM, you won't need a new phone once you get one with 850/1900 MHz 
frequencies, unless you also want 3G or need a quadband phone for travel.



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