Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

 They have maintained for some time that they have a unique status within
 the USA.  (You might have heard the sound bite of their current governor a
 few months ago proposing secession?)

 Of course this is all hogwash, but you know Texans bigger than snot and
 about as useful.


My first thought is good riddance to that god forsaken hell hole, but I do
know lots of nice people who have escaped Texas.
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Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
  Looking around on the internet reveals that virtually anyone who is
commenting on driving while using an iPad thinks it is a fantastic
idea.  A number of commenters say that driving is boring, and having
the ability to watch movies or play games while behind the wheel makes
for a more enjoyable and pleasant commuting experience.

  On questions about safety, almost nobody even brings that up, and
those that do in discussion forums quickly get put down.  Most of
those who do comment on safety issues simply say that everyone
already uses their cell phones to surf the web, watch videos, text
message, etc., etc., etc., so mounting an iPad on the windshield or in
or on the dashboard is no big deal at all.

  A lot of these commenters live in California, and while they admit
that using any device in a manner described above is illegal, they say
that nobody cares about that and that such laws are stupid.  Many
also relate that just about any automotive electronics shop in
California will install any video device in any car for use by the
driver by bypassing the requirement that it be hooked up in such a way
as to be made inoperative when the car is in motion.

  So, it is becoming quite clear to me that much of what is
influencing the direction in which our digital world is being directed
are very young and very immature people, and mostly all males.  This
fact was evidenced in the recent Apple iPhone/Gizmodo situation,
wherein all of the intimately involved individuals were in their young
twenties.  It also appears as though that is the primary age group
that is being targeted by makers of consumer-level digital devices,
and precisely because they are often so stupid, gullible, naive and
not at all savvy about managing their money.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread mike
Nick Denton is in his forties...so some, not all.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 5:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote:



  So, it is becoming quite clear to me that much of what is
 influencing the direction in which our digital world is being directed
 are very young and very immature people, and mostly all males.  This
 fact was evidenced in the recent Apple iPhone/Gizmodo situation,
 wherein all of the intimately involved individuals were in their young
 twenties.  It also appears as though that is the primary age group
 that is being targeted by makers of consumer-level digital devices,
 and precisely because they are often so stupid, gullible, naive and
 not at all savvy about managing their money.

  Steve




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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread David K Watson
Rick Perry is an embarrassment to the state educational system.  
He said when Texas entered the union in 1845, it was with the 
understanding it could later pull out. In fact, as the historical 
website points out (and Texas Monthly reminds its readers 
quite often), the agreement was that Texas could split itself into 
5 states of comfortable size if it wanted, not that it could secede. 
If Perry could spark two brain cells together, he'd recognize 
that his faulty understanding can't be reconciled with the history 
of the Civil War, which included Texas among those states that 
can't secede.  

As to the Republic of Texas bit, Texans are inordinately proud 
of the fact that they were an actual republic from 1836-45, between 
independence from Mexico and admission to the U.S. Some other 
states or parts of states were republics too at some point, but 
not for as long and with the same degree of recognition
as Texas, I think. 


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 Date:Sat, 1 May 2010 22:25:36 -0500
 From:Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: illegal search warrant?
 
 They have maintained for some time that they have a unique status 
 within the USA.  (You might have heard the sound bite of their 
 current governor a few months ago proposing secession?)
 
 Of course this is all hogwash, but you know Texans bigger than snot 
 and about as useful.
 
 Stewart
 
 At 09:55 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote:
 They are a republic..just like the US.
 
 On May 1, 2010 7:44 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
 
 Lets correct things a little bit here.
 
 A small group/committee decided this for the whole state.
 
 Kind of dumb but that is how it works.
 
 Similar problem in my church body a small group decides what our publishing
 house should put out.
 
 Dont smear the whole state by this action.
 
 But also remember they usually refer to themselves as a republic.  Such as
 the United States and the Republic of Texas.
 
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread mike
Most states are still republics to a point.  Of course this depends on your
view of what a republic is...I know one of the wacks on that TX board when
they were reviewing their history books didn't want to include that the US
was a republic, she felt it was misleading even if true.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM, David K Watson
davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote:

 Rick Perry is an embarrassment to the state educational system.
 He said when Texas entered the union in 1845, it was with the
 understanding it could later pull out. In fact, as the historical
 website points out (and Texas Monthly reminds its readers
 quite often), the agreement was that Texas could split itself into
 5 states of comfortable size if it wanted, not that it could secede.
 If Perry could spark two brain cells together, he'd recognize
 that his faulty understanding can't be reconciled with the history
 of the Civil War, which included Texas among those states that
 can't secede.

 As to the Republic of Texas bit, Texans are inordinately proud
 of the fact that they were an actual republic from 1836-45, between
 independence from Mexico and admission to the U.S. Some other
 states or parts of states were republics too at some point, but
 not for as long and with the same degree of recognition
 as Texas, I think.


 On May 2, 2010, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote:

  Date:Sat, 1 May 2010 22:25:36 -0500
  From:Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
  Subject: Re: illegal search warrant?
 
  They have maintained for some time that they have a unique status
  within the USA.  (You might have heard the sound bite of their
  current governor a few months ago proposing secession?)
 
  Of course this is all hogwash, but you know Texans bigger than snot
  and about as useful.
 
  Stewart
 
  At 09:55 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote:
  They are a republic..just like the US.
 
  On May 1, 2010 7:44 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
 
  wrote:
 
  Lets correct things a little bit here.
 
  A small group/committee decided this for the whole state.
 
  Kind of dumb but that is how it works.
 
  Similar problem in my church body a small group decides what our
 publishing
  house should put out.
 
  Dont smear the whole state by this action.
 
  But also remember they usually refer to themselves as a republic.  Such
 as
  the United States and the Republic of Texas.
 
  Stewart
 


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[CGUYS] A New Age of Enlightenment

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa

http://www.appleinsider.com/print/10/04/30/kraft_foods_adds_new_support_for_employees_choosing_macs.html

Following the general trend away from top-down, centralized corporate  
computing monoculture, Kraft Foods has initiated a Bring Your Own  
Computer program for its employees, providing new support for  
employees who want to use a Mac. 





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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa

On May 1, 2010, at 7:18 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

You cannot have oil drilling off-shore without without accidents,
spills and likely occasional disastrous consequences.


Ditto for nuclear.


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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa

On May 1, 2010, at 7:18 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

I know he was, and personally I disagreed with that political
decision.  I thought such a wide open proposition was a recipe for
looming disaster, and so did many others, including, as you point out,
at least some conservatives.


He threw his implacable opposition a bone in the spirit of compromise.  
Now suddenly all the neocons have always been against drilling and  
accuse BHO of being in bed with the oil companies. Sure...



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Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa

On May 1, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:
How do you visit clients [clients' sites] if you don't have/drive a  
car [or truck]?


I typically walk. Have your feet atrophied?


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Re: [CGUYS] A New Age of Enlightenment

2010-05-02 Thread mike
Those five people will be really pleased they can bring a mac...corporate
will be pleased they aren't having to send IT down any more since they
discontinued support for employees computers.  That part is the real story
here.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:41 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:


 http://www.appleinsider.com/print/10/04/30/kraft_foods_adds_new_support_for_employees_choosing_macs.html

 Following the general trend away from top-down, centralized corporate
 computing monoculture, Kraft Foods has initiated a Bring Your Own Computer
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Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa

On May 2, 2010, at 8:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

Looking around on the internet reveals that virtually anyone who is
commenting on driving while using an iPad thinks it is a fantastic
idea.  A number of commenters say that driving is boring, and having
the ability to watch movies or play games while behind the wheel makes
for a more enjoyable and pleasant commuting experience.


Don't forget that most of those elitist Apple fans are going to have a  
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa

On May 1, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:

Dont smear the whole state by this action.



Perhaps, if this were the only example of same.


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Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread tjpa

On May 2, 2010, at 8:32 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

A lot of these commenters live in California, and while they admit
that using any device in a manner described above is illegal, they say
that nobody cares about that and that such laws are stupid.


Is this not another example of getting the government off our backs?  
Who are they to tell us that we can't be watching porn and cleaning  
our guns as we zoom down the highway at 30 MPH over the speed limit,  
slowing down only while we aim at stop signs for target practice? That  
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread mike
We'll just power everything off hamsters.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:53 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On May 1, 2010, at 7:18 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

 You cannot have oil drilling off-shore without without accidents,
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 Ditto for nuclear.



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Re: [CGUYS] A New Age of Enlightenment

2010-05-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:23 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those five people will be really pleased they can bring a mac...corporate
 will be pleased they aren't having to send IT down any more since they
 discontinued support for employees computers.  That part is the real story
 here.

  Additionally, this new program will help to facilitate the ability
of workers to take their computers home to do further work, seemingly
something they had not been doing prior to this new scheme.  This wil
enable the company to get many more hours of free work out their
employees.  Seems like just about everything is to the advantage of
the corporation here.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 Is this not another example of getting the government off our backs? Who are
 they to tell us that we can't be watching porn and cleaning our guns as we
 zoom down the highway at 30 MPH over the speed limit, slowing down only
 while we aim at stop signs for target practice? That would be unAmerican!

  If you are using an Apple mobile device you will not be watching any
porn, at least as far as Apple is concerned.

  By the way, I wonder how long it will be before Apple blocks porn on
their desktop and laptop computers, or will their inability to sell as
many if they do that cause them to refrain from such although they
would probably love to extend their policing role to those platforms
as well.

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Re: [CGUYS] A New Age of Enlightenment

2010-05-02 Thread mike
And being their own computers, they don't have to worry about IT installing
monitoring software on their laptops and watching them in their
unmentionables at home.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:23 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

  Those five people will be really pleased they can bring a mac...corporate
  will be pleased they aren't having to send IT down any more since they
  discontinued support for employees computers.  That part is the real
 story
  here.

   Additionally, this new program will help to facilitate the ability
 of workers to take their computers home to do further work, seemingly
 something they had not been doing prior to this new scheme.  This wil
 enable the company to get many more hours of free work out their
 employees.  Seems like just about everything is to the advantage of
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  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:53 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

  Is this not another example of getting the government off our backs? Who
 are
  they to tell us that we can't be watching porn and cleaning our guns as
 we
  zoom down the highway at 30 MPH over the speed limit, slowing down only
  while we aim at stop signs for target practice? That would be unAmerican!

   If you are using an Apple mobile device you will not be watching any
 porn, at least as far as Apple is concerned.


I thought it was just that all Porn was to be accessed through Safari.


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Re: [CGUYS] It's here...God help us

2010-05-02 Thread mike
That's what I think it is, Steve Jobs isn't against porn, he is using the
massive numbers of all iphone users to find the good porn and using it for
himself through Safari.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote:




 I thought it was just that all Porn was to be accessed through Safari.


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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread Chris Dunford
 BHO was all for drilling until the shit hit the fan.

No, he was never all for drilling. He gave this to the Republicans in another 
one of his misguided attempts to be bipartisan or to get them to vote for 
something he wanted. 

When will he learn?


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[CGUYS] Adobe Digital Editions

2010-05-02 Thread Stephen Brownfield
What does anyone know about Adobe Digital Editions?  I was thinking of 
trying it on my Mac, but did not install it when I saw that it downloads 
and installs from the web.  I like to be the one to install/uninstall 
programs on my computer. If I install it will I have problems 
uninstalling it? Is it worth the trouble or should I avoid it?  I was 
going to use it to read ebooks from PROJECT GUTENBERG.  Should I just go 
with the old plain text or HTML instead?

Thanks,

Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread mike
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575214593564769072.html

Not a bad article on the matter.

On May 2, 2010 5:59 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:35 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:  We'll just
power everything off ha...
 I will be a good ten or more years before any new off-shore drilling
really would begin to make a dent in our oil supplies.  Plus, haste to
hurry things up will result in a lot more spills and other accidents
that would occur otherwise.  FWIW, a couple of days ago, another oil
rig that was being towed in the gulf capsized and sank.

 I heard somewhere that Halliburton built the system that was
supposed to have shut off the oil flow in the case of a situation such
as took place in this gulf incident, but they cut corners in some
manner by not providing a normally used additional shut-off fail safe
valve.

 Steve

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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-02 Thread David K Watson
MS aren't the only ones killing their prototype if this rumor bears 
out: 
http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/29/hewlett-packard-to-kill-windows-7-tablet-project/

HP is apparently killing its Slate tablet.  It really isn't surprising, 
given that it was supposed to have more ports and memory than 
the iPad, front- and rear-facing cameras, and would have to 
pay a Win7 license fee, yet still was somehow going to be cheaper 
than an iPad.  

HP also reportedly wasn't happy with Win7 as a touchscreen OS.  
Speculation is that once HP acquires palm, the Slate will be resurrected 
and transmogrified into a Web OS device with a mobile processor 
replacing the Intel Atom.  

What's next?  Fusion Garage is still promising JooJoo delivery in a few 
months.  Anybody want to wager on that?  (On a side note, what't up 
with that name?  I can understand changing it from CrunchPad, you 
don't want the word crunch associated with breakable electronics, 
but JooJoo simultaneously evokes something anti-semitic and bad 
movie theater candy.)  


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 From:Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com
 Subject: M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?
 
 Ars posted a nice post mortem article on the Courier:
 http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/04/courier-no-more-not-that-
 it-ever-was-a-post-mortem.ars
 
 What do you think - Has M$ lost their ability to design marketable new
 products, misunderstood the main criteria for UI design, let perfect
 over-rule possible or are they just too scattered to get new product
 ideas to market successfully?  Something else?
 Thank you,=20
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

2010-05-02 Thread mike
Keep in mind, Apple's markup is about 50%...so HP could come in under.
There are net tops with win 7 and multiple ports for under 300.

On May 2, 2010 7:40 PM, David K Watson davidkirkwat...@gmail.com wrote:

MS aren't the only ones killing their prototype if this rumor bears
out:

http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/29/hewlett-packard-to-kill-windows-7-tablet-project/


HP is apparently killing its Slate tablet.  It really isn't surprising,
given that it was supposed to have more ports and memory than
the iPad, front- and rear-facing cameras, and would have to
pay a Win7 license fee, yet still was somehow going to be cheaper
than an iPad.

HP also reportedly wasn't happy with Win7 as a touchscreen OS.
Speculation is that once HP acquires palm, the Slate will be resurrected
and transmogrified into a Web OS device with a mobile processor
replacing the Intel Atom.

What's next?  Fusion Garage is still promising JooJoo delivery in a few
months.  Anybody want to wager on that?  (On a side note, what't up
with that name?  I can understand changing it from CrunchPad, you
don't want the word crunch associated with breakable electronics,
but JooJoo simultaneously evokes something anti-semitic and bad
movie theater candy.)


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 Subject: M$ Cancels Courier - Lost their Way?

  Ars posted a nice post mortem article on the Courier:  
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/...
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:04 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575214593564769072.html

 Not a bad article on the matter.

  Back in 2009 BP testified before a federal regulatory board about
potential environmental damage that this particular exploratory rig
could cause if anything went wrong.  Although, as the WSJ article
points out, there have been numerous blowouts and attendant oil
spills, some quite major, involving exactly the same drilling methods
used in this current episode, BP assured the federal panel that any
accident that could threaten the shoreline or any animal life was
virtually impossible.  The board apparently agreed and we now have
what we have.  Too bad that most of these regulatory boards and
agencies are usually heavily staffed with industry insiders who just
love revolving doors.

  Steve


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