[CGUYS] New nomenclature
New Speak often amuses me. We have seen the term 'software' and 'application(s)' very quickly morph into the now common term 'app(s)' to describe any and all programs, a term that is also probably now falling into disuse in the computing world. I am now increasingly seeing the term refresh to describe not only computer screen redraws and why we use Lysol spray, but also being used to describe a hardware upgrade. In other words, one no longer 'upgrades' their computer or phone, but rather they 'refresh' whatever hardware they are desirous of replacing. So, who comes up with such new terminology or causes a term to quite suddenly become widely used by computer users lest they become fearful of being seen as illiterate in terms of computer new-speak? In that vein, why do so many seem to be so anxious to adopt these new-speak terms. I still prefer the terms 'software' or 'application' over 'app' if for no other reason that they seem more adult-like. I have no need for clipped speech a-la Twitter when communicating with others. I can easily pronounce most multisyllabic words. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
This is how it's always been, new speech comes along with every generation and every previous one complains. I think as far as the term refresh goes, this has come about when handing out the new Apple message. The term is used to describe the new lineup of computers and laptops, I think they use it because Apple never comes out with completely new systems but just does small updates to existing lines. Apple is on the third refresh of the macbook pro I believe. Perhaps you are hanging around more Apple folks? I upgrade my system often, I'm around those who upgrade often...I know no one who uses the term refresh for upgrading or rebuilding their systems. Apps obviously has come about since the app store from Apple. And now Apple is pushing it out to not only their iphone/ipod users but their general imac population. I use the phrase in terms of phone applications, the computer literate I'm around know when I say apps I'm talking phone apps. 'Did you try that app I sent you?' They know I'm talking phones. 'Did you take a look at that program I emailed you about?' They know I'm referring to computer software. I'm not sure why you associate app with being a child...unless you know a lot of mac users. Ha ha. JK On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:15 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: New Speak often amuses me. We have seen the term 'software' and 'application(s)' very quickly morph into the now common term 'app(s)' to describe any and all programs, a term that is also probably now falling into disuse in the computing world. I am now increasingly seeing the term refresh to describe not only computer screen redraws and why we use Lysol spray, but also being used to describe a hardware upgrade. In other words, one no longer 'upgrades' their computer or phone, but rather they 'refresh' whatever hardware they are desirous of replacing. So, who comes up with such new terminology or causes a term to quite suddenly become widely used by computer users lest they become fearful of being seen as illiterate in terms of computer new-speak? In that vein, why do so many seem to be so anxious to adopt these new-speak terms. I still prefer the terms 'software' or 'application' over 'app' if for no other reason that they seem more adult-like. I have no need for clipped speech a-la Twitter when communicating with others. I can easily pronounce most multisyllabic words. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO ** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:14 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: This is how it's always been, new speech comes along with every generation and every previous one complains. I believe that computer speak, except in terms of brand new products and types of devices and protocols, has remained pretty stable and not much changed since the mid-eighties. Now, quite suddenly in my estimation, I am seeing some newly popularized terms, or terms that are trying to become popularized, to describe things that have been around since the early days of computing. Apple has pushed new terminology upon the overall computing public, and I believe that to be a scheme to associate new terminology with the Apple brand. In other words, 'app' conjures up Apple's store. So perhaps Apple is running the entire new show these days, almost singly forming the computing lexicon of the future. But, I also feel that the Twitter effect, folks not having enough time, energy, attention span or available space to be able to fully express themselves, or perhaps not even caring if they do or not, is at play. Perhaps all of life is desirous of being turned into one big compressed MP3 file by some folks. I said that I see using clipped speech, truncated words and silly, single letter abbreviations for whole words as being less than adult. I do not see that as being related to Mac user and more that to any other platform, or as in 'new speak,' plat. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
On 3/19/11 4:14 PM, mike wrote: This is how it's always been, new speech comes along with every generation and every previous one complains. That's how you know you're getting. . .old. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
As I said, a new generation. Look at the tech we are talking about, the guys who invented it, popularized it are getting older, a new generation has come along and is using it's own nomenclature to describe the new and old/redone tech that surrounds them. Does the generation that came up in the 80's use the slang and exact nomenclature of those that came up in the 60's? It's quite suddenly to you probably because this new young generation is the one running the show now, they do the tech mags, they do the tech websites and youtube videos reviewing software and hardware. Look at the movers in the industry across the board, digg/reddit/twitter/facebook/google on and on, these are companies run by young people who have come of age after the heavy lifting of inventing the core base of our computer systems. You need to come to terms with something, Steve. I'm sorry to have to do this to you but someone has to get you ready for your future. Say it with me.. 'Get off my lawn!' On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:53 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that computer speak, except in terms of brand new products and types of devices and protocols, has remained pretty stable and not much changed since the mid-eighties. Now, quite suddenly in my estimation, I am seeing some newly popularized terms, or terms that are trying to become popularized, to describe things that have been around since the early days of computing. *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] New nomenclature
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:21 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, a new generation. Look at the tech we are talking about, the guys who invented it, popularized it are getting older, a new generation has come along and is using it's own nomenclature to describe the new and old/redone tech that surrounds them. If it is Apple that has popularized the term app. then that means Steve Jobs has either coined or approved the term. He is hardly new generation, although he often acts quite childish. Does the generation that came up in the 80's use the slang and exact nomenclature of those that came up in the 60's? That depends upon what field of endeavor you are talking about. You need to come to terms with something, Steve. I'm sorry to have to do this to you but someone has to get you ready for your future. Say it with me.. 'Get off my lawn!' Well now, hold on here. You begin to sound like you are channeling you know who. I do not have to begin speaking like a 'tweeter' just because some twenty-somethings are doing it. Plus, I do not have to adopt new slang just to try and prove something about my hipness. I am secure as I am. I shall continue to use the term 'application' as opposed to 'app.' I shall also continue to use the term software or program and I will even distinguish types of software by stating if utility or productivity because I believe that to do so provides better clarification to the recipient. Just because Mr. Jobs says that 'software' no longer exists, that what used to be 'softwre' is now an 'app,' I will simply disagree with that self-serving assessment of his. Steve *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] A**hole + iPad = trouble, leads to censorship and idiocracy
phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: My best friend says that she just endured the worst short airplane flight in her life. She was seated next to some jerk of a guy who wanted to play motion sensor games on his iPad the whole way from Charlotte to Dulles. He kept jamming and poking his elbow into her side and making all manner of guttural noises as he manipulated his iPad back and forth and to and fro. She kept complaining and trying to move away, and he would be more careful for about two minutes until he once again began to go out of control, under that 'magical' spell. She was close to calling upon the flight attendant when she realized that there was only about 15 minutes to go, so she bit her tongue and a couple of minutes later the guy finally put his little toy away in preparation for the landing. She says that the next time someone she is seated next to on a flight pulls an iPad out she is going to warn the person off the bat to be careful by retelling her tale of misery. I belong to a computer user group with a Yahoo group list; been a member long before the list moved to Yahoo. The present owner of the list is also the jerk who plays kiddie games [not even challenging or exciting games] on his iPad during our meetings, giggling, with his tongue out [age 46 going on 7]. All he and a few others wants to discuss on the list is iPads and iPhones, not computers, not even iPod Touch. He moderated [censored] me, and one other member last week, blocking our emails when she posted links to contribute aid to victims of the Japanese tsunami and I agreed it was a good idea to provide links. He said it was off-topic [it was labeled off-topic], three others wrote in to complain and start an argument. We were both censored even though neither of us started an argument, and off-topic subjects were never an issue before--they were common. This is what happens when a fanboi zombie gets to control things: Censorship and Stupidity. Will fix him on Tuesday, then may leave the group. It sucks when a few of jerks ruin a group for everybody. Idiot fanboi didn't notice that there's a link in red on Yahoo Groups pages for Japan Relief. If he did, he'd probably complain, but we'd be lucky if he left. A**holes abound. Betty p.s. Have I flamed anybody on either CGuys list lately who didn't deserve it? :-D *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
