Re: [CGUYS] Dreamweaver (was: Dead desktop computer -- what is likely the matter?)
On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote: How hard is it to learn and use Dreamweaver? I currently use Contribute to manage a web site, but at time find it a little lacking. I have never really worked with HTML. This would be easier to answer if you gave me a clue about the things you find lacking. Contribute is less restrictive than many CMSs, but is still very restrictive. There are many directions to go. Dreamweaver is a great program. However, Dreamweaver is a big program. It leaves you swimming in options and doesn't provide a good way to manage its own complexity. Most people only use a fraction of Dreamweaver's features because the other features are there for people with different needs, but all the features are there in front of you all the time. You also have to bring to it a good knowledge of web technology as Dreamweaver will assist your editing code, but you have to know what you are editing. This can make Dreamweaver hard to learn. If Contribute is just a little lacking you might try a little enhancement first. Get a stand-alone HTML/CSS editing program (some of these are free) and tell Contribute that it is your code editor. Then whenever you think you need a little more capability you can have Contribute open the page using that editor. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Dreamweaver (was: Dead desktop computer -- what is likely the matter?)
On Nov 26, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Tony B wrote: Tom seems to want to disparage CMS's uniformity, but that's why people like them so much. CMS is for workers in the Gulag. A CMS workflow is not that much different than the workflow in a chicken processing plant. Workers spend all day long filling in the blanks on a form. All day long, every single day it is the same damn form and it produces pages that all look the same. If the CMS demands that you supply it with a horizontal photo and all you have is a great vertical, the CMS will make a hash of your page and you'll catch flack for not following directions (true story). Only overseers and WFBs who have drunk the coolaid like CMSs. People who have to use a typical CMS say get me out of here. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Dreamweaver (was: Dead desktop computer -- what is likely the matter?)
On Nov 26, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Tony B wrote: Trying to program that much CSS by hand is a daunting task not for the squeamish. CSS is not particularly difficult and a lot of fun to work with. There is a lot of opportunity for personal creativity. At the end of the day you will probably want to show off to others what you accomplished. Gulag overseers and WFBs will frown on anything that can produce so much joy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Dreamweaver (was: Dead desktop computer -- what is likely the matter?)
t.piwowar wrote: However if you are still in a position to exercise your freedom, Dreamweaver is just peachy. How hard is it to learn and use Dreamweaver? I currently use Contribute to manage a web site, but at time find it a little lacking. I have never really worked with HTML. Thanks, Steve B (the other Steve) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Dreamweaver (was: Dead desktop computer -- what is likely the matter?)
For basic HTML it's got a steep learning curve. But for todays CSS-laden sites, it's got a massive learning *overhanging cliff*. Tom seems to want to disparage CMS's uniformity, but that's why people like them so much. Trying to program that much CSS by hand is a daunting task not for the squeamish. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Stephen Brownfield steveei...@verizon.net wrote: t.piwowar wrote: However if you are still in a position to exercise your freedom, Dreamweaver is just peachy. How hard is it to learn and use Dreamweaver? I currently use Contribute to manage a web site, but at time find it a little lacking. I have never really worked with HTML. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
