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This is what I heard as well. I think of myself as an environmentalist, so it did get me thinking. What I heard was they didn't want the river dumping all this sand and salt into the ocean. Heaven forbid we contaminate the oceans with sand and salt. Next thing you know we'll be dumping chemicals and human waste there. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Feb 12, 2010, at 5:18 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: What you missed is than it's not environmentally sound to dump snow in the river. Ask the greens for the logic. Has to do with the sand and salt mixed in with the snow. Fred Holmes At 07:55 AM 2/12/2010, Rich Schinnell wrote: FWIW: I still can't figure out why the local leaders are missing the best place to dispose of all of the snow removed from streets. There appears to be some sort of River running between VA/DC/MD that carries a lot of liguid to the sea that might possibly accept all the snow that is being dumped on a large parking lot in DC. What did I miss on this low tech solution to a high tech problem?? Even though I heard that our snow was the Mullah's praying for it. :) Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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But we can control how the weather effects us. We've already invented it. It's called a Winabego(sp). Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Feb 13, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: The laws of physics tell you that you can't afford the necessary energy to significantly change the path of a storm, even if you were to invent a convenient mechanism for implementing it. Fred Holmes At 12:15 PM 2/13/2010, Ranbo wrote: *Whatever happened to the efforts to (somewhat) control weather? Will we ever be able to, say, disrupt a snowstorm enough to change its course to, for example, miss land and go off over the ocean? Or is this science fiction that will never be possible? Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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It is now. We have two term limits and President Reagan is no longer in office. So, no more Star Wars, no more particle beam weapons or freaky weather devices. Once again, you can blame the liberals. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Ranbo wrote: *Whatever happened to the efforts to (somewhat) control weather? Will we ever be able to, say, disrupt a snowstorm enough to change its course to, for example, miss land and go off over the ocean? Or is this science fiction that will never be possible? Randall * On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Tell me about it. I lived in a corner house. Every morning I went out I would have this huge pile of snow right in my walk way. I would have to shovel a path out for the mail man or no mail. (Canada, no such thing as no matter snow or ice) I complained and the pile got bigger. What they would do is, as they came around the corner, they would aim for a corner to push all the snow too, My corner was the most convenient. Stewart At 06:57 AM 2/13/2010, you wrote: Exactly. And how do you do that? You dump or push it where people usually walk. In particular, urban and suburban snow removal is all about the automobile. Most bus stops become totally unusable after heavy snows. Buses may begin operating fairly soon after a large snowfall, but bus riders are SOL because they cannot even get on a bus at most stops and drivers cannot let them off. Thus, most buses will run their routes mostly empty of passengers. Many pedestrians wind up in hospitals or morgues after heavy snows because they have to walk the same traffic lanes being used by cars, trucks and other vehicles. Steve Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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For whatever it is worth, they used to call snow poor farmer's fertilizer. The snow supposedly picks up some nitrogen from the air on its way down, and when it melts the nitrogen goes into the ground, helping to enrich the soil. So dumping snow on fields would not have been a Bad Thing to do. Mike Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: When I lived in Canada they did pick up the snow. he banks would get too high and they would then cut down the banks and use a huge show blower to load it up in trucks and haul it to an empty field where it cold stack over winter, and then melt off in Summer. (the two months it would melt) Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: The main concern with snow removal is get it out of the way fast. Exactly. And how do you do that? You dump or push it where people usually walk. In particular, urban and suburban snow removal is all about the automobile. Most bus stops become totally unusable after heavy snows. Buses may begin operating fairly soon after a large snowfall, but bus riders are SOL because they cannot even get on a bus at most stops and drivers cannot let them off. Thus, most buses will run their routes mostly empty of passengers. Many pedestrians wind up in hospitals or morgues after heavy snows because they have to walk the same traffic lanes being used by cars, trucks and other vehicles. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Tell me about it. I lived in a corner house. Every morning I went out I would have this huge pile of snow right in my walk way. I would have to shovel a path out for the mail man or no mail. (Canada, no such thing as no matter snow or ice) I complained and the pile got bigger. What they would do is, as they came around the corner, they would aim for a corner to push all the snow too, My corner was the most convenient. Stewart At 06:57 AM 2/13/2010, you wrote: Exactly. And how do you do that? You dump or push it where people usually walk. In particular, urban and suburban snow removal is all about the automobile. Most bus stops become totally unusable after heavy snows. Buses may begin operating fairly soon after a large snowfall, but bus riders are SOL because they cannot even get on a bus at most stops and drivers cannot let them off. Thus, most buses will run their routes mostly empty of passengers. Many pedestrians wind up in hospitals or morgues after heavy snows because they have to walk the same traffic lanes being used by cars, trucks and other vehicles. Steve Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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*Whatever happened to the efforts to (somewhat) control weather? Will we ever be able to, say, disrupt a snowstorm enough to change its course to, for example, miss land and go off over the ocean? Or is this science fiction that will never be possible? Randall * On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Tell me about it. I lived in a corner house. Every morning I went out I would have this huge pile of snow right in my walk way. I would have to shovel a path out for the mail man or no mail. (Canada, no such thing as no matter snow or ice) I complained and the pile got bigger. What they would do is, as they came around the corner, they would aim for a corner to push all the snow too, My corner was the most convenient. Stewart At 06:57 AM 2/13/2010, you wrote: Exactly. And how do you do that? You dump or push it where people usually walk. In particular, urban and suburban snow removal is all about the automobile. Most bus stops become totally unusable after heavy snows. Buses may begin operating fairly soon after a large snowfall, but bus riders are SOL because they cannot even get on a bus at most stops and drivers cannot let them off. Thus, most buses will run their routes mostly empty of passengers. Many pedestrians wind up in hospitals or morgues after heavy snows because they have to walk the same traffic lanes being used by cars, trucks and other vehicles. Steve Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The answer to this is simple. The ability to affect weather depends on wielding a great deal of energy. The ability to control weather depends on CONTROLLING a great deal of energy. Today, we can easily affect the weather by detonating our nuclear arsenal. We could control the weather if we could control an amount of energy equivalent to that produced by detonating our nuclear arsenal. On 2/13/10, Ranbo ran...@gmail.com wrote: *Whatever happened to the efforts to (somewhat) control weather? Will we ever be able to, say, disrupt a snowstorm enough to change its course to, for example, miss land and go off over the ocean? Or is this science fiction that will never be possible? Randall * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The laws of physics tell you that you can't afford the necessary energy to significantly change the path of a storm, even if you were to invent a convenient mechanism for implementing it. Fred Holmes At 12:15 PM 2/13/2010, Ranbo wrote: *Whatever happened to the efforts to (somewhat) control weather? Will we ever be able to, say, disrupt a snowstorm enough to change its course to, for example, miss land and go off over the ocean? Or is this science fiction that will never be possible? Randall * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Feb 12, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: They would attach the snow plows to the front of the garbage trucks and plow out the streets with those. Good use of a multi purpose vehicle. That's what they did when I lived in NY City. Very effective. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Feb 12, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Roger D. Parish wrote: Dulles airport is using snow melter machines to dispose of snow. I thought I had read somewhere that DC had a snow melter machine, too, but it was broken. I can't find a reference now. All over downtown DC today I see them filling trucks with snow. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I think the biggest problem with weather control has been demonstrated with Chaos Theory. If you were to deflect a storm out to sea, it would have ramifications across the whole planet. You can bet the guy 5000 miles away that has a drought will sue your pants off for contributing to it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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At 03:18 PM 2/13/2010, b_s-wilk wrote: Interesting though, Pennsylvania has much more snow than Maryland, yet the PA snow crews were sent to MD to learn how to clear snow quickly and effectively. Go figure. Maybe southern PA has gotten a lot of snow. Sullivan County, PA (upper-right intersection of a tic tac toe pattern drawn on the state) has gotten only a nominal amount of snow, and one of their big storms was all rain. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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FWIW: I still can't figure out why the local leaders are missing the best place to dispose of all of the snow removed from streets. There appears to be some sort of River running between VA/DC/MD that carries a lot of liguid to the sea that might possibly accept all the snow that is being dumped on a large parking lot in DC. What did I miss on this low tech solution to a high tech problem?? Even though I heard that our snow was the Mullah's praying for it. :) Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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What you missed is than it's not environmentally sound to dump snow in the river. Ask the greens for the logic. Has to do with the sand and salt mixed in with the snow. Fred Holmes At 07:55 AM 2/12/2010, Rich Schinnell wrote: FWIW: I still can't figure out why the local leaders are missing the best place to dispose of all of the snow removed from streets. There appears to be some sort of River running between VA/DC/MD that carries a lot of liguid to the sea that might possibly accept all the snow that is being dumped on a large parking lot in DC. What did I miss on this low tech solution to a high tech problem?? Even though I heard that our snow was the Mullah's praying for it. :) Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I heard this morning on TV that the MD Dept. of Natural Resources told the city of Baltimore that it's OK to dump snow in the Inner Harbor. Apparently the environment impact is no worse than what you get with a heavy thunderstorm. Sorry I can't substantiate this. On 2/12/10, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote: What you missed is than it's not environmentally sound to dump snow in the river. Ask the greens for the logic. Has to do with the sand and salt mixed in with the snow. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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First, plows don't pick up snow, they only push it, so your idea won't work for plows. Shopping centers often go to the extra expense of trucking out snow, but it's sure not cheap. Usually they just find a far part of their own parking lot to take it to. Would you really expect a truck to drive from say, Gaithersburg all the way to a river in a snowstorm? And what would they do once they got there? Not like we have truck ramps over the river that they can safely pull back to and dump - again, in a snowstorm. Oh, and all those chemicals end up in the rivers anyway as the snow melts. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Rich Schinnell richnrockvi...@gmail.comwrote: FWIW: I still can't figure out why the local leaders are missing the best place to dispose of all of the snow removed from streets. There appears to be some sort of River running between VA/DC/MD that carries a lot of liguid to the sea that might possibly accept all the snow that is being dumped on a large parking lot in DC. What did I miss on this low tech solution to a high tech problem?? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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From CNN, RTFA from 2003: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0303/01/smn.14.html BILL STREET, CHESAPEAKE BAY FOUNDATION: It bypasses any type of filtering that you might get on the land and just sort of accelerates that runoff going through the rivers. And what that polluted runoff then does is, fuels algae that can kill underwater grasses, can block sunlight, and create very sort of dead zones of low oxygen, where crabs and fish can't survive. Clear skies, John J Settle (longitude 76W 56#39; 30.34, latitude 38N 57#39; 22.06) From: Rich Schinnell richnrockvi...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 7:55:10 AM Subject: [CGUYS] Snow Removal and disposal. FWIW: I still can't figure out why the local leaders are missing the best place to dispose of all of the snow removed from streets. There appears to be some sort of River running between VA/DC/MD that carries a lot of liguid to the sea that might possibly accept all the snow that is being dumped on a large parking lot in DC. What did I miss on this low tech solution to a high tech problem?? Even though I heard that our snow was the Mullah's praying for it. :) Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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When I lived in Canada they did pick up the snow. he banks would get too high and they would then cut down the banks and use a huge show blower to load it up in trucks and haul it to an empty field where it cold stack over winter, and then melt off in Summer. (the two months it would melt) Stewart At 08:26 AM 2/12/2010, you wrote: First, plows don't pick up snow, they only push it, so your idea won't work for plows. Shopping centers often go to the extra expense of trucking out snow, but it's sure not cheap. Usually they just find a far part of their own parking lot to take it to. Would you really expect a truck to drive from say, Gaithersburg all the way to a river in a snowstorm? And what would they do once they got there? Not like we have truck ramps over the river that they can safely pull back to and dump - again, in a snowstorm. Oh, and all those chemicals end up in the rivers anyway as the snow melts. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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*Why can't they come up with a way to simply melt the snow in place? I see they have a device some places used called a Snow Dragon which does this but still requires snow to be shoveled into it (like feeding a furnace). Why not, though, some sort of heating device (I'm picturing a giant soldering iron) that melts the snow in place? May need to have some tubing or something similar to catch the runoff and steer it towards a drain or something. Might not work in all locations but could work in some, particularly if it could melt the snow fairly slowly. I imagine a large arm with the device on the end that moves back and forth across a swath of snow. Once finished one swath the device would automatically move a little to the next swatch or controlled manually according to conditions. Crazy idea? Randall * On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: When I lived in Canada they did pick up the snow. he banks would get too high and they would then cut down the banks and use a huge show blower to load it up in trucks and haul it to an empty field where it cold stack over winter, and then melt off in Summer. (the two months it would melt) Stewart At 08:26 AM 2/12/2010, you wrote: First, plows don't pick up snow, they only push it, so your idea won't work for plows. Shopping centers often go to the extra expense of trucking out snow, but it's sure not cheap. Usually they just find a far part of their own parking lot to take it to. Would you really expect a truck to drive from say, Gaithersburg all the way to a river in a snowstorm? And what would they do once they got there? Not like we have truck ramps over the river that they can safely pull back to and dump - again, in a snowstorm. Oh, and all those chemicals end up in the rivers anyway as the snow melts. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Oh yes, in northern climes they often invest in this type of heavy machinery. The latest craze is snow melting machines, which can eliminate the need for trucking it away. But the OP was talking about Washington, D.C., a southern city. Nobody this far south invests in dedicated snow removal devices because it makes no economic sense. Snow melting machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgyY8XfdfDg On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: When I lived in Canada they did pick up the snow. he banks would get too high and they would then cut down the banks and use a huge show blower to load it up in trucks and haul it to an empty field where it cold stack over winter, and then melt off in Summer. (the two months it would melt) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Extremely slow. The main concern with snow removal is get it out of the way fast. Stewart At 07:22 PM 2/12/2010, you wrote: *Why can't they come up with a way to simply melt the snow in place? I see they have a device some places used called a Snow Dragon which does this but still requires snow to be shoveled into it (like feeding a furnace). Why not, though, some sort of heating device (I'm picturing a giant soldering iron) that melts the snow in place? May need to have some tubing or something similar to catch the runoff and steer it towards a drain or something. Might not work in all locations but could work in some, particularly if it could melt the snow fairly slowly. I imagine a large arm with the device on the end that moves back and forth across a swath of snow. Once finished one swath the device would automatically move a little to the next swatch or controlled manually according to conditions. Crazy idea? Randall * On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: When I lived in Canada they did pick up the snow. he banks would get too high and they would then cut down the banks and use a huge show blower to load it up in trucks and haul it to an empty field where it cold stack over winter, and then melt off in Summer. (the two months it would melt) Stewart At 08:26 AM 2/12/2010, you wrote: First, plows don't pick up snow, they only push it, so your idea won't work for plows. Shopping centers often go to the extra expense of trucking out snow, but it's sure not cheap. Usually they just find a far part of their own parking lot to take it to. Would you really expect a truck to drive from say, Gaithersburg all the way to a river in a snowstorm? And what would they do once they got there? Not like we have truck ramps over the river that they can safely pull back to and dump - again, in a snowstorm. Oh, and all those chemicals end up in the rivers anyway as the snow melts. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Tell me about it. We are out of town, but it snowed today where we live. They shut down the region starting last night. Total snowfall? 3-5 inches. Of course they only get a snow like this every 12-20 years. We flew into Dallas today, still slush all over the tarmac where they have the jetways. Up north that would all have been plowed out. Stewart At 07:30 PM 2/12/2010, you wrote: Oh yes, in northern climes they often invest in this type of heavy machinery. The latest craze is snow melting machines, which can eliminate the need for trucking it away. But the OP was talking about Washington, D.C., a southern city. Nobody this far south invests in dedicated snow removal devices because it makes no economic sense. Snow melting machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgyY8XfdfDg * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Two Words: Flame Thrower - Original Message - From: Ranbo ran...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Snow Removal and disposal. *Why can't they come up with a way to simply melt the snow in place? I see they have a device some places used called a Snow Dragon which does this but still requires snow to be shoveled into it (like feeding a furnace). Why not, though, some sort of heating device (I'm picturing a giant soldering iron) that melts the snow in place? May need to have some tubing or something similar to catch the runoff and steer it towards a drain or something. Might not work in all locations but could work in some, particularly if it could melt the snow fairly slowly. I imagine a large arm with the device on the end that moves back and forth across a swath of snow. Once finished one swath the device would automatically move a little to the next swatch or controlled manually according to conditions. Crazy idea? Randall * On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: When I lived in Canada they did pick up the snow. he banks would get too high and they would then cut down the banks and use a huge show blower to load it up in trucks and haul it to an empty field where it cold stack over winter, and then melt off in Summer. (the two months it would melt) Stewart At 08:26 AM 2/12/2010, you wrote: First, plows don't pick up snow, they only push it, so your idea won't work for plows. Shopping centers often go to the extra expense of trucking out snow, but it's sure not cheap. Usually they just find a far part of their own parking lot to take it to. Would you really expect a truck to drive from say, Gaithersburg all the way to a river in a snowstorm? And what would they do once they got there? Not like we have truck ramps over the river that they can safely pull back to and dump - again, in a snowstorm. Oh, and all those chemicals end up in the rivers anyway as the snow melts. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Feb 12, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Tony B wrote: Oh yes, in northern climes they often invest in this type of heavy machinery. The latest craze is snow melting machines, which can eliminate the need for trucking it away. But the OP was talking about Washington, D.C., a southern city. Nobody this far south invests in dedicated snow removal devices because it makes no economic sense. Arlington county uses snow melters. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Interesting. However, that doesn't mean it makes economic sense. Normally the DC area might get one good snowfall a year; nothing multi-purpose equipment like plows and loaders can't handle. And they can be used year round. Arlington's snow melter(s) would basically sit in the garage 363 days a year. I wonder what that costs them? On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:48 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Feb 12, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Tony B wrote: Oh yes, in northern climes they often invest in this type of heavy machinery. The latest craze is snow melting machines, which can eliminate the need for trucking it away. But the OP was talking about Washington, D.C., a southern city. Nobody this far south invests in dedicated snow removal devices because it makes no economic sense. Arlington county uses snow melters. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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When I lived in St. Louis, I found out they had no specialized snow equipment. Now they are far enough north to get a foot or two of snow over the winter. One year we lived there they got dumped on similar to what DC got, a couple of feet overnite. They would attach the snow plows to the front of the garbage trucks and plow out the streets with those. Good use of a multi purpose vehicle. Stewart At 08:12 PM 2/12/2010, you wrote: Interesting. However, that doesn't mean it makes economic sense. Normally the DC area might get one good snowfall a year; nothing multi-purpose equipment like plows and loaders can't handle. And they can be used year round. Arlington's snow melter(s) would basically sit in the garage 363 days a year. I wonder what that costs them? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
