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On Nov 3, 2009, at 1:56 PM, mike wrote: Hang on I gotta throw up a little after this propaganda piece. You live on another planet. It is a dark and dangerous place where everyone preys on everyone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Than where do I shop? The local Walmart supports all the community activities there are[, plus gives back thousands and thousands of dollars to our community. Plus they employee a large number of folks from the community. Don't support the one business in town that gives a huge amount back to the town? I also happen to know the local manager and serve with him in a local community club. Finer individual you cannot find anywhere. Stewart At 09:30 AM 11/3/2009, you wrote: But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are aware of the history and are a socially responsible and moral being, not shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice you can easily make. It's easier to avoid the evil we can see. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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As far as I can see, you're pretty much stuck. If you live in a place where Walmart is the only place to buy stuff, you buy stuff there. In the town next to my uncle's farm, for example, there are no grocery stores or clothing stores, so everyone goes to Walmart, 30 miles away. Many of us do have more choices. (In the suburban Maryland area, we are overbuilt in retail space; for example, there are six different kinds of grocery store within five miles of where I live. So you can shop for the degree of social consciousness of your grocery store, as well as the kind of food they have! But not everybody has this kind of luxury of choices) At least Walmart has been more amenable to pressure in recent years than some other organizations and has mended some of its ways. If you don't like something they are doing, you can tell them about it; if enough people do likewise, you may get results. An organization as large as Walmart can do a lot of damage; but, turned around, it has the potential to do much good. --Constance Warner On Nov 3, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Than where do I shop? The local Walmart supports all the community activities there are[, plus gives back thousands and thousands of dollars to our community. Plus they employee a large number of folks from the community. Don't support the one business in town that gives a huge amount back to the town? I also happen to know the local manager and serve with him in a local community club. Finer individual you cannot find anywhere. Stewart At 09:30 AM 11/3/2009, you wrote: But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are aware of the history and are a socially responsible and moral being, not shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice you can easily make. It's easier to avoid the evil we can see. ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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When light is shined it has a tendency to overshadow darkness. Too bad it does not work in Washington. Stewart At 11:08 AM 11/3/2009, you wrote: And a lot of pressure on Walmart has caused it to mend some of its ways. Thus you can't argue that making the right choice is not ineffective. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: What does this say about the efforts of the insurance industry and certain politicians to scuttle insurance reform bills in Congress? They aren't equivalent to Osama Bin Laudin, but are they entirely innocent? Attempts at the federal level to reform the health insurance industry began in 1942 after many years of complaints from the public about being ripped off and abused. To date, nearly 70 years on, almost nothing has been able to be accomplished. Yet, we all hear cries from the opponents of real reform that we are moving much too quickly. Say what? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Quoting Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net: Now for you religious ones, Satan always ranks up there in the top 10. Hey! I resent the rem. . .oh wait, you said *S*atan not *K*atan. (-: PS. Yes, they sound the same. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I do not buy my dress pants at Walmart either. But it is a BS comparison. A decent pair of dress pants will run between 30-55.00 I used to work clothing retail and the mark up is awful. Plus what is not stated is very often they are made at the same plant on the same line just with a few different labels. Is that Ralph Lauren Polo shirt really worth 70? I can buy a comparable quality shirt at Lands End for 29. Stewart At 12:14 PM 11/3/2009, you wrote: Walmart dress pants $20. Material disintegrates in 2 years so pants are no longer useable. Men's shop dress pants $80. After 10 years of heavy use still look good. It is just like the Mac vs. PC comparison. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:14 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are definitely more evil things in this world to be wary of besides Walmart. Can you give us some examples? Absolutely, according to Virginia Foxx, Republican Congresswoman from North Carolina, who said on the House floor just the other day, “I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that [health care] bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country.” Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are aware of the history and are a socially responsible and moral being, not shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice you can easily make. It's easier to avoid the evil we can see. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are definitely more evil things in this world to be wary of besides Walmart. Stewart At 05:29 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: Don't go to Wal-Mart. Why? Because WalMart is evil. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Apparently evil exists in more places for some of the users here. I suppose walmart can be the little 'e' evil and we'll save Evil for real good stuff like Mao and Pot and Stalin. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are aware of the history and are a socially responsible and moral being, not shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice you can easily make. It's easier to avoid the evil we can see. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are definitely more evil things in this world to be wary of besides Walmart. Stewart At 05:29 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: Don't go to Wal-Mart. Why? Because WalMart is evil. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Well, Walmart management did lock people in their stores and force them to work without pay. (I'm not making this up, unfortunately; it's well substantiated in court cases.) This is far short of killing fields, but it isn't cool. And just because something doesn't kill you outright doesn't mean that it is essentially harmless. Walmart is justly famous for killing off small town business districts and wiping out local small- business entrepreneurs. And their policy of demanding the lowest possible price from their suppliers is a big factor in exporting jobs from the U.S. to China. As a lot more people are now finding out, your chances of getting the necessities of life--including a place to sleep indoors, and medical care when you need it--are just not that good if you don't have a job or a viable small business. (OK, maybe you can make it to the emergency room if you have a medical crisis, but often it's far too late by the time you get there.) --Constance Warner Walmart concentration camps? The killing fields at walmart? On Nov 2, 2009 6:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Many things can be called evil, but it ... Or it could be that you just don't know much about the history of Walmart. ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I think the Rev's point was that while Walmart practices are bad and uncool, they don't rise to the level of evil. The word itself is overused to describe everyrthing not liked. Boy, Pol Pot was evil. Boy, Walmart is evil. We have a couple generations of young adults and kids who will say, yeah walmart is evil...what is a Pol Pot? They have no perspective on evil. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: Well, Walmart management did lock people in their stores and force them to work without pay. (I'm not making this up, unfortunately; it's well substantiated in court cases.) This is far short of killing fields, but it isn't cool. And just because something doesn't kill you outright doesn't mean that it is essentially harmless. Walmart is justly famous for killing off small town business districts and wiping out local small-business entrepreneurs. And their policy of demanding the lowest possible price from their suppliers is a big factor in exporting jobs from the U.S. to China. As a lot more people are now finding out, your chances of getting the necessities of life--including a place to sleep indoors, and medical care when you need it--are just not that good if you don't have a job or a viable small business. (OK, maybe you can make it to the emergency room if you have a medical crisis, but often it's far too late by the time you get there.) --Constance Warner Walmart concentration camps? The killing fields at walmart? On Nov 2, 2009 6:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Many things can be called evil, but it ... Or it could be that you just don't know much about the history of Walmart. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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For every horror story of Walmart I can tell you good stories. A lot has to do with local management. Are they a white knight? no. Are they the Black Prince no. They are a corporation like many corporations. Has what Apple done by recoding some of their software to lock out competitors hardware ethical? I know the local manager and he and his store are quite generous. The Local Walmart has pumped a lot of money into the local area, as we pump a lot of money into the local Walmart. They are THE grocery store in town. We have two smaller ones (of which I frequent one of them) Winn Dixie closed shop as they were so poorly run they had to close a lot of stores. (Corporate not local) We have had that problem with grocery stores for a long time. (Kmart closed shop, Food Land closed shop, all due to corporate mismanagement) I just think a lot of demonization is done about Walmart that is way off base. We live in a global economy and a global market. Too many retailers take the attitude that if it worked 50 years ago it will work today. Too many of them do not know how to retail and they do not belong in business. I shop a lot of local retailers But some of them I simply cannot afford. The local Men's shop is one. I cannot afford his inflated prices ($80 dress pants) and shop elsewhere. I shop the local Hardware store but when you look for parts and cant find them you end up at the Big Box retailer. I feel quite ethical shopping at the local Walmart. It gives jobs to a lot of folks around her, plus my son-in-law. Stewart At 09:25 AM 11/3/2009, you wrote: Well, Walmart management did lock people in their stores and force them to work without pay. (I'm not making this up, unfortunately; it's well substantiated in court cases.) This is far short of killing fields, but it isn't cool. And just because something doesn't kill you outright doesn't mean that it is essentially harmless. Walmart is justly famous for killing off small town business districts and wiping out local small- business entrepreneurs. And their policy of demanding the lowest possible price from their suppliers is a big factor in exporting jobs from the U.S. to China. As a lot more people are now finding out, your chances of getting the necessities of life--including a place to sleep indoors, and medical care when you need it--are just not that good if you don't have a job or a viable small business. (OK, maybe you can make it to the emergency room if you have a medical crisis, but often it's far too late by the time you get there.) --Constance Warner Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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We use words in the English language haphazardly. Many foreign languages are very specific in their use of words. Is Walmart's practices always Ethical? NO! I would venture to say that most business practices in this day and age are not ethical. Are they Evil? I don't rate them up there. Was Pol Pot Evil? Was Stalin Evil? Was Hitler Evil? (Do we want to add in the Osama, Sadam, Ayatollah Khomeni, any Leader who urges genocide) Those guys would be classified as Evil. Not the business practices we see, they simply do not rate up there. If I did not frequent anyone or any entity who was not ethical I simply could not shop today (By the way I would say both Apples and MS's practices are both suspicious there too.) I would not have a bank account, I would not have insurance I would simply live in a cave So we make choices each and every day. Stewart At 10:18 AM 11/3/2009, you wrote: I think the Rev's point was that while Walmart practices are bad and uncool, they don't rise to the level of evil. The word itself is overused to describe everyrthing not liked. Boy, Pol Pot was evil. Boy, Walmart is evil. We have a couple generations of young adults and kids who will say, yeah walmart is evil...what is a Pol Pot? They have no perspective on evil. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Constance Warner wrote: And just because something doesn't kill you outright doesn't mean that it is essentially harmless. Walmart is justly famous for killing off small town business districts and wiping out local small- business entrepreneurs. And their policy of demanding the lowest possible price from their suppliers is a big factor in exporting jobs from the U.S. to China. Exactly right. This brings us back to the concept of the banality of evil. Just like we are told when a plane crashes, an evil outcome is the product of a chain of events and multiple small acts of evil must be committed before the final evil event occurs. If someone breaks the chain the evil is stopped. So those who participate in that chain of events can not be excused. They have committed evil. For example, Apple put Panic Software in a very bad place when Apple released iTunes in competition with Panic's flagship product, Audion. Panic tells the whole story on their website. Apple really had to do iTunes. Apple knew what it would do to the folks at Panic. Steve Jobs personally met with the folks at Panic and did his best to help them. I think this is a great example of how a responsible company acts and tries its best to not do evil. This is very different from how Walmart routinely crushes local businesses, suppliers (read what the did to Rubbermaid), and its employees (vs Costco's policies). On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:17 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely, according to Virginia Foxx, Republican Congresswoman from North Carolina, who said on the House floor just the other day, “I believe we have more to fear from the potential of that [health care] bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country.” Good example. Virginia Foxx is willing to kill a lot of people in order to make a lot of money for some other people. Just because she is not rampaging through her community slitting the throats of babies, the sick, and old people with her own hands would not make her any less responsible for these deaths. On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:18 AM, mike wrote: I think the Rev's point was that while Walmart practices are bad and uncool, they don't rise to the level of evil. The word itself is overused to describe everyrthing not liked. Boy, Pol Pot was evil. By your standards I don't know that Pol Pot would have been considered evil. He merely gave the orders. Other people followed them so the evil is on those other people, not on Pol Pot. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Jordan wrote: But shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice. If you are aware of the history and are a socially responsible and moral being, not shopping at Wal-Mart is a choice you can easily make. And a lot of pressure on Walmart has caused it to mend some of its ways. Thus you can't argue that making the right choice is not ineffective. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I never gave a set of standards, Tom, but then you know that. And I'm not surprised a leftist like you would consider Pot free of evil, the track record for progressives embracing guys like this are abundant. Let us not leave out the abundant record of our non-progressive conservatives. For example, how the Reagan administration linked up with Pol Pot almost immediately after winning the election, even prior to actually taking office on January 20, 1981. They just couldn't wait to jump into the genocidal arms selling game on behalf of their tools of warfare buddies by sending Ray Cline, foreign policy advisor on Reagan's transitional team and former CIA deputy director to Cambodia to get cozy with the murderous dictator. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I shop a lot of local retailers But some of them I simply cannot afford. The local Men's shop is one. I cannot afford his inflated prices ($80 dress pants) and shop elsewhere. Walmart dress pants $20. Material disintegrates in 2 years so pants are no longer useable. Men's shop dress pants $80. After 10 years of heavy use still look good. It is just like the Mac vs. PC comparison. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Hang on I gotta throw up a little after this propaganda piece. On Nov 3, 2009 11:41 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: Too bad it does not work in Washington. It did and the difference is so obvious to those of us who live here. The feeling of community has been reinvigorated. Instead of poor souls being tortured by their ghoulish commands we now have someone trying very hard to work us out of the mess we were put in. Last Saturday 2,000 neighborhood kids were invited to the White House and had a grand time. The President and First Lady were beaming as they passed out goodies with obvious care to the little ones. These are very good, loving people. If you can't see that there is something very wrong with you. The problem is that some of us can't recognize true evil and instead seek to tar the righteous. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Almost overkill. Does he need 16GB of flash drive? Walmart also sells them in 2-4-8-16 GB sizes. Well put together and solid. Stewart At 12:15 AM 11/2/2009, you wrote: I forgot to add this was a Sandisk flash drive. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Nov 1, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash drive (Don't ask me how?) Ended up connecting to it and transferring all that data to my system and putting it on a new flash drive. I did tell him it is best to back it up onto a system and not keep all you precious documents on a flash drive. Needless to say he no longer works at the local school. (His brilliance was matched by his incompetence.) Stewart At 11:24 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week-- after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yes, flash drives - or hard drives of any type - can and do fail suddenly and without warning. That's not a problem if you're just using them to transport files. And it shouldn't be a problem if you're doing regular backups to them, since you should be warned of failure when writing data. But do not under any circumstances save data to a drive and expect it to be there sometime in the future! My current C drive images are about 10gb, so I guess I could keep ONE on a flash drive. Darned inconvenient to have to leave one plugged in, or to plug/unplug every day to do a daily backup. Also, you really need multiple daily backups, since you can never quite be sure how far back you'll need to go to restore. PS On this specific drive you didn't mention price. Currently, 16gb flash drives run about $35. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: I haven't really been paying attention to this thread, but now I think I should have. My son, for his birthday, wants a flash drive. I was looking at the 16gig one they have at Costco.com and here are the specs from that page. Capacity: 16GB * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I have washed and dried flash drives before, usually my son's when he left it in his pants and I didn't find it. I've also done the same with DS game cartridges. They've always survived the wash, but perhaps that is because we have a front loader, so they don't spend much time being completely immersed. What I have found is that the cheaper flimsier flash drives often will not survive repeated plugging in and removal from the computer, and internal connections between the USB tip and the rest of the drive will break from too much flexing. On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:03 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: From:b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: Speaking of flash drives Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week--after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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35 bux is not a horrible price, if you look around at Newegg or Fry's you can find em under 30 with free shipping. I bought a couple of 8 gig microsdhc cards I use with my phone, they were ten bux a peice. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, flash drives - or hard drives of any type - can and do fail suddenly and without warning. That's not a problem if you're just using them to transport files. And it shouldn't be a problem if you're doing regular backups to them, since you should be warned of failure when writing data. But do not under any circumstances save data to a drive and expect it to be there sometime in the future! My current C drive images are about 10gb, so I guess I could keep ONE on a flash drive. Darned inconvenient to have to leave one plugged in, or to plug/unplug every day to do a daily backup. Also, you really need multiple daily backups, since you can never quite be sure how far back you'll need to go to restore. PS On this specific drive you didn't mention price. Currently, 16gb flash drives run about $35. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: I haven't really been paying attention to this thread, but now I think I should have. My son, for his birthday, wants a flash drive. I was looking at the 16gig one they have at Costco.com and here are the specs from that page. Capacity: 16GB * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Besides making sure that the drive is sturdy, another thing to consider is the protection for the USB tip. If the drive has a separate cap for the tip, it inevitably will get lost. Jeff should consider getting a drive with a USB tip that slides or folds out from a built-in cover. Another thing to hope for is a drive with decent read/write speeds. One of my large capacity flash drives takes considerably longer to move files between (particularly copying files to it) than the other. It is painful to use the slow one for moving TV recordings between computers and is only a little faster than moving them over our wireless network. Does anyone know if there is a way to check for this? I don't think that the read/write speeds are usually given on the package. I agree that a 16GB flash drive is likely overkill, unless Jeff's kid is going to deal with a lot of media files or he wants to put a linux installation on it. From:Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Speaking of flash drives Almost overkill. Does he need 16GB of flash drive? Walmart also sells them in 2-4-8-16 GB sizes. Well put together and solid. Stewart At 12:15 AM 11/2/2009, you wrote: I forgot to add this was a Sandisk flash drive. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Nov 1, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash drive (Don't ask me how?) Ended up connecting to it and transferring all that data to my system and putting it on a new flash drive. I did tell him it is best to back it up onto a system and not keep all you precious documents on a flash drive. Needless to say he no longer works at the local school. (His brilliance was matched by his incompetence.) Stewart At 11:24 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week-- after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Costco also generally sells 8G drives and 4G flash drives in a 3 pack. I suggest going with one of those. A 16G flash drive is probably unnecessarily huge. Don't go to Wal-Mart. Jeff Miles wrote: I haven't really been paying attention to this thread, but now I think I should have. My son, for his birthday, wants a flash drive. I was looking at the 16gig one they have at Costco.com and here are the specs from that page. Capacity: 16GB Simple: Back up at the touch of a button, no cables or software installation needed Portable: Just put it in your pocket protect your files wherever you are Secure: Protect your data w/password protection AES hardware encryption Backed by the minds behind flash memory: with our patent pending backup technology 5-year limited warranty System Requirements: Intel® Pentium® PC or Mac computer w/USB support Windows XP, Vista (backup storage) Windows 2000, Mac OS X v10.1.2+ Linux (storage only) USB 2.0 port required for high-speed transfer Requires high-power USB hub port Anyway, my son is using a PC, but not sure of the OS. He built the computer himself, so it's mostly brandless. The OS is some flavor of windows and he built it in the last year so I'm guessing Vista. So, does this sound like a decent flash drive for him? I rarely use them myself so I know little to next to nothing about them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Why? My first thought is you may have encountered name brand stuff that had not passed QC well enough to be sold at other retailers? I've never heard of this but could be..? Is a walmart sandisk different from a fry's electronics sandisk? I have a friend who bought some name brand jeans there for cheap and although the brand is the same, they are definately of a different quality then those bought at other stores. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Don't go to Wal-Mart. Jeff Miles wrote: I haven't really been paying attention to this thread, but now I think I should have. My son, for his birthday, wants a flash drive. I was looking at the 16gig one they have at Costco.com and here are the specs from that page. Capacity: 16GB Simple: Back up at the touch of a button, no cables or software installation needed Portable: Just put it in your pocket protect your files wherever you are Secure: Protect your data w/password protection AES hardware encryption Backed by the minds behind flash memory: with our patent pending backup technology 5-year limited warranty System Requirements: Intel® Pentium® PC or Mac computer w/USB support Windows XP, Vista (backup storage) Windows 2000, Mac OS X v10.1.2+ Linux (storage only) USB 2.0 port required for high-speed transfer Requires high-power USB hub port Anyway, my son is using a PC, but not sure of the OS. He built the computer himself, so it's mostly brandless. The OS is some flavor of windows and he built it in the last year so I'm guessing Vista. So, does this sound like a decent flash drive for him? I rarely use them myself so I know little to next to nothing about them. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I know there are certain prejudices out there, but the Sandisk drives I got at Walmart are the same. I get some of my stuff at Walmart as it is the local store. I have to drive 20 miles plus to get to an alternate store. (I did go to our local office supply store for some HP ink cartridges, but they had them and Walmart did not. They do not carry much.) It works just fine, it is the slider type and has not failed yet. So far I have only had one fail on me and it was my fault, I bent the tip on it. Stewart At 01:00 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: Why? My first thought is you may have encountered name brand stuff that had not passed QC well enough to be sold at other retailers? I've never heard of this but could be..? Is a walmart sandisk different from a fry's electronics sandisk? I have a friend who bought some name brand jeans there for cheap and although the brand is the same, they are definately of a different quality then those bought at other stores. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Why? My first thought is you may have encountered name brand stuff that had not passed QC well enough to be sold at other retailers? I've never heard of this but could be..? Is a walmart sandisk different from a fry's electronics sandisk? I have a friend who bought some name brand jeans there for cheap and although the brand is the same, they are definately of a different quality then those bought at other stores. Probably the belief that WalMart is an evil soul sucking entity that destroys local businesses. http://www.intellectualpoison.com/WalMartisPureEvil.html or I still go there if I have to shop after 10pm. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Don't go to Wal-Mart. Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com: Why? Because WalMart is evil. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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There are definitely more evil things in this world to be wary of besides Walmart. Stewart At 05:29 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: Don't go to Wal-Mart. Why? Because WalMart is evil. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I would change that to, there are definitely more evil things in this world to be wary of along with Walmart. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are definitely more evil things in this world to be wary of besides Walmart. Stewart At 05:29 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: Don't go to Wal-Mart. Why? Because WalMart is evil. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Quoting Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net: There are definitely more evil things in this world to be wary of besides Walmart. You mean like republicans and Microsoft? (-: At 05:29 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: Don't go to Wal-Mart. Why? Because WalMart is evil. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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And dems and acorn. On Nov 2, 2009 5:26 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: Quoting Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net: There are definitely more evil things i... You mean like republicans and Microsoft? (-: At 05:29 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: Don't go to Wal-Mart. Why?Becaus... * ** List info, subscriptio... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I was thinking more like Al Qida, Fascists, and anything along that line. Now for you religious ones, Satan always ranks up there in the top 10. Stewart At 06:28 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: And dems and acorn. On Nov 2, 2009 5:26 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: Quoting Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net: There are definitely more evil things i... You mean like republicans and Microsoft? (-: * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Rev sticks to the old standards. On Nov 2, 2009 5:39 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I was thinking more like Al Qida, Fascists, and anything along that line. Now for you religious ones, Satan always ranks up there in the top 10. Stewart At 06:28 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: And dems and acorn. On Nov 2, 2009 5:26 PM, Reid Katan... * ** List info, subscriptio... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Nothing wrong with that. Evil will always be with us. That is one of those things we live with. Many things can be called evil, but it just takes us away from the real evil in the world. Stewart At 06:42 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: Rev sticks to the old standards. On Nov 2, 2009 5:39 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I was thinking more like Al Qida, Fascists, and anything along that line. Now for you religious ones, Satan always ranks up there in the top 10. Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are definitely more evil things in this world to be wary of besides Walmart. Can you give us some examples? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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He did. On Nov 2, 2009 6:27 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: There are definitely more evil things i... Can you give us some examples? * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Many things can be called evil, but it just takes us away from the real evil in the world. Or it could be that you just don't know much about the history of Walmart. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Tom I know a lot of history about a lot of things, but one of the things I have learned is that you need to know a lot more than modern history to be able to make any rational judgements on the nature of evil. Walmart and it's type will come and go along with the ebb and flow of things. Walmart is not a loner in this department there are a number of companies that can be lumped together and Apple and Microsoft are all part of it. (And the list is a long one.) But like I said they will come and go. Evil will still be with us when those companies are long gone. Stewart At 07:32 PM 11/2/2009, you wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Many things can be called evil, but it just takes us away from the real evil in the world. Or it could be that you just don't know much about the history of Walmart. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Walmart concentration camps? The killing fields at walmart? On Nov 2, 2009 6:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Many things can be called evil, but it ... Or it could be that you just don't know much about the history of Walmart. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Maybe I missed something but I have had flash drives with U3 installed and there was a file on the drive that says REMOVE U3 (or uninstall). I did it on most of them and it worked fine after answering that I was sure that I wanted to remove the applications that they had installed on the drive (Kinda like crapware) YMMV Rich At 09:12 PM 10/31/2009, you wrote: Date:Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:12:05 -0400 From:tjpa t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: Speaking of flash drives On Oct 31, 2009, at 2:39 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: Google U3 Removal. There are ways to get that space back. This is surprisingly hard to do. I have had some success with a utility from HP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Thanks very much for all the input. After some reading it seems to me that easiest way to remove it was to crank up a Windows machine, that I had not started in a couple years, and use the utilities on the stick to uninstall. I didn't want to put a utility on my Mac to do it and a method using terminal did not work. Thanks again John DeCarlo wrote: Google U3 Removal. There are ways to get that space back. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: I'm new to flash drives. The SanDisk flash I have loads a separate volume called U3 System which is clearly meant for Windows users. Is there a way to get rid of this on the Mac? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Rich Schinnell wrote: Maybe I missed something but I have had flash drives with U3 installed and there was a file on the drive that says REMOVE U3 (or uninstall). I'm glad to see that somebody is doing it right. Can you cite any brands that do this? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The SanDisks and the Cruzer ones I was working with had uninstalls on them. It was having to dig out my Windows computer to uninstall that I didn't like. Yes, I know I'm spoiled. tjpa wrote: On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Rich Schinnell wrote: Maybe I missed something but I have had flash drives with U3 installed and there was a file on the drive that says REMOVE U3 (or uninstall). I'm glad to see that somebody is doing it right. Can you cite any brands that do this? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week--after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash drive (Don't ask me how?) Ended up connecting to it and transferring all that data to my system and putting it on a new flash drive. I did tell him it is best to back it up onto a system and not keep all you precious documents on a flash drive. Needless to say he no longer works at the local school. (His brilliance was matched by his incompetence.) Stewart At 11:24 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week--after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I haven't really been paying attention to this thread, but now I think I should have. My son, for his birthday, wants a flash drive. I was looking at the 16gig one they have at Costco.com and here are the specs from that page. Capacity: 16GB Simple: Back up at the touch of a button, no cables or software installation needed Portable: Just put it in your pocket protect your files wherever you are Secure: Protect your data w/password protection AES hardware encryption Backed by the minds behind flash memory: with our patent pending backup technology 5-year limited warranty System Requirements: Intel® Pentium® PC or Mac computer w/USB support Windows XP, Vista (backup storage) Windows 2000, Mac OS X v10.1.2+ Linux (storage only) USB 2.0 port required for high-speed transfer Requires high-power USB hub port Anyway, my son is using a PC, but not sure of the OS. He built the computer himself, so it's mostly brandless. The OS is some flavor of windows and he built it in the last year so I'm guessing Vista. So, does this sound like a decent flash drive for him? I rarely use them myself so I know little to next to nothing about them. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Nov 1, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash drive (Don't ask me how?) Ended up connecting to it and transferring all that data to my system and putting it on a new flash drive. I did tell him it is best to back it up onto a system and not keep all you precious documents on a flash drive. Needless to say he no longer works at the local school. (His brilliance was matched by his incompetence.) Stewart At 11:24 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week-- after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I forgot to add this was a Sandisk flash drive. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Nov 1, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Had an ROTC instructor one year, break off the end of his flash drive (Don't ask me how?) Ended up connecting to it and transferring all that data to my system and putting it on a new flash drive. I did tell him it is best to back it up onto a system and not keep all you precious documents on a flash drive. Needless to say he no longer works at the local school. (His brilliance was matched by his incompetence.) Stewart At 11:24 PM 11/1/2009, you wrote: Flash drives break when you need them most, yet survive the most brutal abuse. I found Bob's 8GB flash drive in the washing machine last week-- after the laundry was washed at the heavy duty setting. I opened it and hung it up to dry with everything else, waited a day for it to dry. It works fine, no lost data. Lucky that I usually hang clothes outdoors or in our greenhouse to dry. The flash drive might not survive an hour in the dryer, but you never know. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I'm new to flash drives. The SanDisk flash I have loads a separate volume called U3 System which is clearly meant for Windows users. Is there a way to get rid of this on the Mac? Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Can't format the whole drive? On Oct 31, 2009 10:44 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: I'm new to flash drives. The SanDisk flash I have loads a separate volume called U3 System which is clearly meant for Windows users. Is there a way to get rid of this on the Mac? Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Google U3 Removal. There are ways to get that space back. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: I'm new to flash drives. The SanDisk flash I have loads a separate volume called U3 System which is clearly meant for Windows users. Is there a way to get rid of this on the Mac? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Does not always work. Last one I got enabled me to turn it off. Did so. Stewart At 01:04 PM 10/31/2009, you wrote: Can't format the whole drive? On Oct 31, 2009 10:44 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: I'm new to flash drives. The SanDisk flash I have loads a separate volume called U3 System which is clearly meant for Windows users. Is there a way to get rid of this on the Mac? Thanks * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Oct 31, 2009, at 2:39 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: Google U3 Removal. There are ways to get that space back. This is surprisingly hard to do. I have had some success with a utility from HP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The last sandisk I got allowed me upon first connection to disable U3. Stewart At 09:12 PM 10/31/2009, you wrote: This is surprisingly hard to do. I have had some success with a utility from HP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
