Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 review
On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:44 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The Washington DC Fox outlet, WTTG, on their morning newscast today, had a review of Windows 7. Some Windows expert, I failed to get his name, was on-air offering his opinions of Windows 7. He was less than enthused about the product. Today in the Post, Rob continues to be less than enthused. Rob Pegoraro - Windows 7 Improves on Vista but is No Mac OSX http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/16/AR2009101600707.html He writes things like overpriced a step back clutter recipe for pain and concludes... In other words, if you were hoping to stop policing random software-versus-hardware squabbles, Windows 7 isn't the operating system for you. Nor does it bring an end to drawn-out program installations and uninstallations, the risk of virus and malware attacks, the need to submit the computer to validation checks, or compatibility problems between 32-bit software and 64-bit installations of Windows. Then again, for Vista users weary of that operating system's foibles, Win 7's selling points can stop at two words: not Vista. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Windows 7 review
The Washington DC Fox outlet, WTTG, on their morning newscast today, had a review of Windows 7. Some Windows expert, I failed to get his name, was on-air offering his opinions of Windows 7. He was less than enthused about the product. While saying it seemed to be better than Vista, running smoother and fixing some security holes, he said it presented a few new issues that will need to be addressed through Service Packs. The reviewer's lack of enthusiasm was palpable, and apparently as a result of that, the host of the segment tried mightily to elicit some truly positive statements from her guest, even trying to get him to say if the new release would help boost Windows popularity versus Macintosh. However, in the final analysis, he failed to provide anything but a lukewarm view of the OS. His overall impression was one of indicating that Windows 7 was an attempt to flee from Vista without really saying so, while ending up providing a slightly better experience but nothing worthy of writing home about. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 review
On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:44 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The Washington DC Fox outlet, WTTG, on their morning newscast today, had a review of Windows 7. Some Windows expert, I failed to get his name, was on-air offering his opinions of Windows 7. He was less than enthused about the product. That seems to be the drift from people who actually tried it who are not subject to FTC anti-shill regs. Apparently it is a slow booter Windows 7 Called Slower than Vista http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/173441/windows_7_called_slower_than_vista.html According to iolo's tests, Windows 7 starts up 42% slower than Vista -- one minute, 34 seconds versus one minute, six seconds -- on a brand new machine Over an even more extended span, Windows 7's boot times get more sluggish than that: By the end of a simulated two-year period, Windows 7's startup times increased more than 330%. That would make it 5 minutes and 10 seconds to boot. Oof! I'm glad my OS X doesn't degrade like that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 review
he said it presented a few new issues that will need to be addressed through Service Packs. Well, he didn't actually say that there were specific issues that would need to be addressed by service packs. He just said that there would eventually be one, which I don't think is really big news to anyone. The only specific problem he mentioned was that his thumbprint reader didn't work, which sounds more like a driver issue than something that would need a service pack. It was pretty obvious that he didn't really understand libraries. But you're right that he wasn't very excited. My anecdotal evidence is quite different; most of the people I've talked to who are using it are very pleased. We'll see. It was Rob Pegoraro from the Post, by the way. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 review
On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: It was pretty obvious that he didn't really understand libraries. It was Rob Pegoraro from the Post, by the way. Rob has had this beat for a long time and is one of the most tech savvy writers around. Are you calling him an idiot because he is not following the M$ party line? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Windows 7 review
Well, here's a review from a run-of-the-mill user, who decided to have Win7 evaluation installed on the new computer I had built about a month ago. I think I may represent the majority of home users. I find it does appear to be slower to boot, but that may be because it just doesn't even light up the monitor until the last step of the boot. The builder told me that one thing Win7 does is changes the boot order of many of the functions. I am skipping from XP to Win7--never had Vista. It has a lot of bells and whistles that aren't particularly useful to me. Pity anyone who gets Win7 for their first computer, and then has to go back to use an older OS. I do like the hover-over-icon previews. I've found no use for snap, and that is touchy. Anyone who is used to managing their own file system will have some problems. It really buries any useful files and folders, and requires quite a lot of knowledge in order to find them. It comes with no desktop icons, so you have to locate the programs (My Documents, for instance), and put them there yourself. I like that one can get rid of the IE icon! I've not had it long enough to comment any further. I will take the computer back to the shop for them to get the paid code and install that after the release date. I also can't comment on the speed, as this machine is so much bigger/faster that the one that it replaced. I only know I'm very happy with it so far. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 review
On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: It was pretty obvious that he didn't really understand libraries. It was Rob Pegoraro from the Post, by the way. Rob has had this beat for a long time and is one of the most tech savvy writers around. Are you calling him an idiot because he is not following the M$ party line? I'm not calling him an idiot at all. I'm simply noting the fact that he did not appear to really understand the point of libraries, which are NOT the equivalent of the My Pictures folder. I don't have anything against Pegoraro. I did note these other comments from him in a recent post: the company's least exciting operating-system update in years. None of these improvements adds up to a Wow, this is so much snappier! speed-up that everybody would notice without the help of a side-by-side comparison. may not accept all of your existing software and hardware. The rest of us will do better sitting [it] out, at least until [there is] a bug-fix update or two for it. These comments are about Snow Leopard. Sounds kinda fermiliar... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 review
On Oct 12, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: These comments are about Snow Leopard. Sounds kinda fermiliar... And he would be right. I always tell my clients that we will do better sitting [it] out, at least until [there is] a bug-fix update or two for it. He is neither a shill for M$ nor Apple. Like me, he sees things as they are. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows 7 review
You know you keep having to make this claim...maybe you should start to wonder why. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Like me, he sees things as they are. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
