Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News
On Mar 18, 2010, at 10:43 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, Ms. Cyrus was speaking to her pubescent fans, most of whom spend far too much time socializing and whiling away their time on their various computers, which includes cell phones, and not enough time on what they need to be focused on. My kids are grown now. So I have some perspective on the matter. Instead of worrying about how technology might damage them, I can say with certainty that technology enriched their lives. It helped them do better at school. It helped them in their lives. One earns a living programming and the other is teaching at the high school level and writes plays that have been produced at the Kennedy Center and on off- Broadway stages in New Your City. The only place I think I failed is with handwriting. They both have terrible handwriting. I was never able to get them to practice sufficiently. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:06 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: It's better to compute in relative isolation--and have a life. I am no fan of Miley Cyrus by any means, but I did gain a bit of respect for her as a result of the recent admonition she delivered to her many pubescent fans... stay away from the internet as much as is possible and most certainly do not anchor your lifestyle to it. An admitted internet addict and Twitter freak, she talked about how it was engulfing her. That realization, once thought by her to be cool, became apparent and she has now gone totally cold turkey, and she suggests the same approach be taken by others. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 18, 2010, at 8:01 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: stay away from the internet as much as is possible and most certainly do not anchor your lifestyle to it I repeat, some of you folks have a real problem dealing with change. You are ignoring that many new technologies that greatly simplify and/ or enrich our lives. I want more of these things, not less. I do agree that one has to pick and choose, but the overall drift I'm seeing here is quite reactionary. Cell phones give us tremendous freedom to collaborate and coordinate with others. For example going to the shopping mall with my wife. With cell phones we no longer need to stay together or agree to meet up at a particular time. If one of us sees something of interest we can immediately communicate to the other. This is very liberating. Skype is another great innovation. My wife now talks almost daily with her family in Italy and frequently connects via video. Several times a week we connect with our 2-year-old granddaughter via iChat video. This brings families much closer together. A wonderful thing. Etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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At 9:05 AM -0400 3/18/10, tjpa wrote: On Mar 18, 2010, at 8:01 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: stay away from the internet as much as is possible and most certainly do not anchor your lifestyle to it I repeat, some of you folks have a real problem dealing with change. You are ignoring that many new technologies that greatly simplify and/or enrich our lives. I want more of these things, not less. I do agree that one has to pick and choose, but the overall drift I'm seeing here is quite reactionary. From my 40-some years in the Information Technology business, I have learned one thing: the people who work with the latest technologies are often the most resistant to change. Ironic, but true, in my experience. Myself, even, to a degree! -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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stay away from the internet as much as is possible and most certainly do not anchor your lifestyle to it I repeat, some of you folks have a real problem dealing with change. You are ignoring that many new technologies that greatly simplify and/ or enrich our lives. I want more of these things, not less. I do agree that one has to pick and choose, but the overall drift I'm seeing here is quite reactionary. I repeat again, some of you city folks don't know what it's like to live in the Internet slow lane. You may be able to get all that great stuff like everywhere networks where you are, but most of the rest of us [in the US] don't have service like that for Internets or mobile phones. Or it's so outrageously expensive that it may as well not exist. In much of the US, the only service is satellite. My friends in Maine pay $70 a month for 693 kbps [tested this week] service, and no cellular networks. We don't ignore new technologies that aren't available to us. The new technologies don't enrich our lives because they're not here, or they're redundant or unnecessary. Enrich my life and get us affordable broadband. Until then, don't lecture us about phantom technologies. It's insulting and ignorant. We are not reactionary just because there's barely passable service. I don't have an iPhone. I don't want an iPhone. I have an unlocked Nokia N79 with WiFi. I don't want an iPad--I hate reading broadsheet newspapers on a screen--hurts my eyes. It's not reactionary to not want something you don't need. I have a Touch and a MacBook. I use my Nokia for free VOIP when I can find a network, otherwise I use a land line with a cheap per minute phone card for long distance. I'm spending a lot of time getting rid of stuff http://is.gd/aNGcY-. My grandfather warned us to be careful about too many possessions because they can possess us. How much tech stuff do you need? -- telecommuting is just another way of saying lying naked with your laptop on the front lawn. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:48 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: My Mac SE [1987] still works. It runs PageMaker 2, maybe FreeHand, Illustrator, MacDraw, MacWrite, a few games; has a 20 MB HD, 4 MB RAM. Still works, not useful. My mobile phone is smarter. All 6 of our old Macs work, but none earlier than G4s are useful on a regular basis. The Intel iMac [2007] runs Final Cut, Adobe/Macromedia suites, MS office, browsers, etc.--all at the same time. Has a 320 GB HD, 4 GB RAM. Very useful, but could use more memory. I expect it to be useful for another 3 or 4 years. My G3 Mac desktop still runs great, and most importantly to me, it runs Freehand, an application that I just cannot really do without unless I want to spend a lot of money. Obsolete? Definitely. Useful? Absolutely. I think? I think I share your affinity for Freehand. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:51 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: My G3 Mac desktop still runs great, and most importantly to me, it runs Freehand, an application that I just cannot really do without unless I want to spend a lot of money. Obsolete? Definitely. Useful? Absolutely. I think? I think I share your affinity for Freehand. Oops. An extra I think in there. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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No you just do a lot of thinking, commendable. Especially on this list. Stewart At 06:53 AM 3/17/2010, you wrote: Oops. An extra I think in there. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I remember guiding people over the phone on how to replace CMOS batteries almost 2 decades ago. Not for the faint hearted. System had to be running or you lost you settings. Stewart At 07:54 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote: Someone decided that most computer users are not smart enough to replace batteries. They may be right! Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Quite possibly. What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? The internet has made it a lot shorter. Today it is hard to compute in isolation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 17, 2010, at 7:51 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: My G3 Mac desktop still runs great, and most importantly to me, it runs Freehand, an application that I just cannot really do without unless I want to spend a lot of money. Obsolete? Definitely. Useful? Absolutely. I think? I think I share your affinity for Freehand. But the price is too high. You get Freehand, but then you can't have a good web browser or good email. You have trouble exchanging files. You can't use the latest fonts. Other people can't use your files. Etc. That is a high price to pay. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:58 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 7:51 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: My G3 Mac desktop still runs great, and most importantly to me, it runs Freehand, an application that I just cannot really do without unless I want to spend a lot of money. Obsolete? Definitely. Useful? Absolutely. I think? I think I share your affinity for Freehand. But the price is too high. You get Freehand, but then you can't have a good web browser or good email. You have trouble exchanging files. You can't use the latest fonts. Other people can't use your files. Etc. That is a high price to pay. I believe that you have made an assumption that is incorrect. I use the G3 I have mentioned pretty much only to have Freehand available and to interface with my plotter/cutter. I create files for use in Freehand either in Freehand itself on that G3 or in applications that run on either my iMac or on my eMac or my MacBook Pro. Conversely, I can export files created in Freehand to apps that run on the computers I have mentioned other than the G3. I do my browsing and e-mail on the iMac, as I am doing right now. I can write Postscript files directly from Freehand for service bureau use. I am not paying a high price at all. I actually have a lot of flexibility and my setup works for me. The various machines can be networked wirelessly if I want to work that way. I don't have a problem. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:59 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Quite possibly. What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? The internet has made it a lot shorter. Today it is hard to compute in isolation. Say what? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:29 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that you have made an assumption that is incorrect. I use the G3 I have mentioned pretty much only to have Freehand available and to interface with my plotter/cutter. The good for you. The only other down side I can think of is that ugly color of the case. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I had one of those...once again Tom and I agree...damn ugly. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:04 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:29 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that you have made an assumption that is incorrect. I use the G3 I have mentioned pretty much only to have Freehand available and to interface with my plotter/cutter. The good for you. The only other down side I can think of is that ugly color of the case. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:04 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: The good for you. The only other down side I can think of is that ugly color of the case. True enough. I keep it mounted down low. Really can't even see it. Use a MS mouse with it and really like the way the G3 handles scrolling, even more so than with the more modern Macs. Maybe that is just my preference at play. Regardless, I like that old machine, have more of an attachment for it in certain ways that the newer ones, and the sucker just keeps on cranking as though it will never die. Got FireWire on it as well as USB, albeit version 1, and a hellatious NEC Diamondtron monitor. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Ugly is in the eye of the beholder. Answer me this question. I have noticed that Mac owners refer to their Mac's by certain names, Lombards, Wallstreet, G3, G4, etc. Is there someplace where a neophyte can look these evolutions up? Stewart At 09:23 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: I had one of those...once again Tom and I agree...damn ugly. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:04 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 17, 2010, at 9:29 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that you have made an assumption that is incorrect. I use the G3 I have mentioned pretty much only to have Freehand available and to interface with my plotter/cutter. The good for you. The only other down side I can think of is that ugly color of the case. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have noticed that Mac owners refer to their Mac's by certain names, Lombards, Wallstreet, G3, G4, etc. Is there someplace where a neophyte can look these evolutions up? Look here, Stewart: http://www.everymac.com/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Thanks helps a lot. Stewart At 10:14 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I have noticed that Mac owners refer to their Mac's by certain names, Lombards, Wallstreet, G3, G4, etc. Is there someplace where a neophyte can look these evolutions up? Look here, Stewart: http://www.everymac.com/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:59 PM, CITY BOY t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Quite possibly. What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? The internet has made it a lot shorter. Today it is hard to compute in isolation. Say what? It's better to compute in relative isolation--and have a life. The Internet has made computing much harder because it's not there when you need it, and when it is, it's unreliable. Remote storage in the cloud is almost as good as lost. Remote storage elsewhere, where instant retrieval is possible is much better. There are some new applications that are simply trash with flash [or maybe Flash]--redundant, and no more useful that what we already have, unless it's the shiny new object or toy factor that attracts you. Get a life. Or give me the new toys--no charge. [not you Steve] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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This is a non-issue. These batteries typically last longer that the useful life of the product. Apple typically picks up the cost for premature failures. This smarter design is also a very fair tradeoff for a slimmer, simpler device with a longer battery charge. That is a daily benefit. The battery thing will only happen once, for only a few owners, and that will happen only after many years of happy use. You guys really have problems with technological change. Every time Apple gets ahead of the curve you go ape -- and Apple being Apple, that happens a lot. I'm surprised you are not still pining for DOS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: This is a non-issue. These batteries typically last longer that the useful life of the product. Quite possibly. What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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This is a non-issue. These batteries typically last longer that the useful life of the product. Quite possibly. What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? Steve My Mac SE [1987] still works. It runs PageMaker 2, maybe FreeHand, Illustrator, MacDraw, MacWrite, a few games; has a 20 MB HD, 4 MB RAM. Still works, not useful. My mobile phone is smarter. All 6 of our old Macs work, but none earlier than G4s are useful on a regular basis. The Intel iMac [2007] runs Final Cut, Adobe/Macromedia suites, MS office, browsers, etc.--all at the same time. Has a 320 GB HD, 4 GB RAM. Very useful, but could use more memory. I expect it to be useful for another 3 or 4 years. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Rev. Stewart A. Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Nice to see that Apple continues to find ways to make their users pay even after the sale. Someone decided that most computer users are not smart enough to replace batteries. They may be right! Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
