Re: [CGUYS] VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM
So far so good, don't jinx it with probing questions. You are no fun at all. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM
Fusion has worked fine for me on a MacBook Pro running with 2 Gb of RAM with Windoze XP installed. I don't run games in Windows which I understand can be a major game changer on RAM needs however. At 1:45 PM -0600 3/28/09, Fred Jones wrote: Fred Jones fredjone...@softhome.net Subject: VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM I just bought a 13 inch Macbook (the 2.4GHz model). The Macbook came with 2GB of DDR3 Memory. I need to run a few Windows programs so I guess I will need VMWare Fusion or Parallels. Could you guys please let me know if one of those programs would be best and if I will need to buy some more RAM. I thought the sales associate told me that the Macbook is expandable to 4GB Memory. I checked the reviews on Amazon and Fusion had better reviews, but the Mac Genius at the Mac store liked Parallels best. -- E. Riley Casey Silver Spring MD 301-608-2180 ph 301-608-0789 fx 301-440-2923 shoe phone Entertainment Sound Production ( http://www.ESPsound.com ) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM
Fusion has worked fine for me on a MacBook Pro running with 2 Gb of RAM with Windoze XP installed. I don't run games in Windows which I understand can be a major game changer on RAM needs however. My worry with such virtualization software is that it excessively patches the base Mac OS in order to do its job. My reading on various discussion lists suggests that problems occur when you later apply Apple dot upgrades, security patches, or upgrade to a new OS version. I read about installers freezing or Macs restarting with blue screens. Apple's patches and upgrades now come with a strong warning that they should not be run on systems that have been modified. Have you been through any upgrades with your copy of Fusion? Any problems? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM
I wanted a few more options so I returned the Macbook and just ordered a 15 inch Macbook Pro... When I was talking to the Apple representative I asked about running Fusion and whether he had any problems updating the OS - the answer was No problems. So now I have had recommendations for both Fusion and Parallels, but Virtual Box sounds like it's worth checking out first! Thanks for your help. From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009 08:19 am Subject: Re: [CGUYS] VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM Fusion has worked fine for me on a MacBook Pro running with 2 Gb of RAM with Windoze XP installed. I don't run games in Windows which I understand can be a major game changer on RAM needs however. My worry with such virtualization software is that it excessively patches the base Mac OS in order to do its job. My reading on various discussion lists suggests that problems occur when you later apply Apple dot upgrades, security patches, or upgrade to a new OS version. I read about installers freezing or Macs restarting with blue screens. Apple's patches and upgrades now come with a strong warning that they should not be run on systems that have been modified. Have you been through any upgrades with your copy of Fusion? Any problems? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM
I initially created a BootCamp partition and installed XP within that. Only after that was running properly did I venture into installing Fusion and the Fusion virtual system was directed to utilize the preexisting BootCamp installation. I have no idea if that makes for a more stable virtual OS or a more stable Mac OS. I'm currently running a fully up to date copy of OS 10.4.11 while the machine was furnished with 10.4.9 and those updates where installed after Fusion was installed. What I have not done is to upgrade the version of Fusion beyond version 1.1.1. The improvements described in the upgrade only applied to interchange between the OS's and that's not a major concern beyond the original capabilities. So far so good, don't jinx it with probing questions. At 11:19 AM -0400 3/29/09, Tom Piwowar wrote: My worry with such virtualization software is that it excessively patches the base Mac OS in order to do its job. My reading on various discussion lists suggests that problems occur when you later apply Apple dot upgrades, security patches, or upgrade to a new OS version. I read about installers freezing or Macs restarting with blue screens. Apple's patches and upgrades now come with a strong warning that they should not be run on systems that have been modified. Have you been through any upgrades with your copy of Fusion? Any problems? Fusion has worked fine for me on a MacBook Pro running with 2 Gb of RAM with Windoze XP installed. I don't run games in Windows which I understand can be a major game changer on RAM needs however. -- E. Riley Casey Silver Spring MD 301-608-2180 ph 301-608-0789 fx 301-440-2923 shoe phone Entertainment Sound Production ( http://www.ESPsound.com ) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM
I just bought a 13 inch Macbook (the 2.4GHz model). Lauren thinks you are not cool. Are you feeling deprived? I need to run a few Windows programs so I guess I will need VMWare Fusion or Parallels. I checked the reviews on Amazon and Fusion had better reviews, but the Mac Genius at the Mac store liked Parallels best. The answer is *it depends.* The answer you get will depend on who you ask and what you need it for. Fusion appeals more to geeks for various obscure reasons. If you just want to run a few Windows programs the Mac Genius gave you good advice, get Parallels. For nice side by side reviews see: http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.25/25.04/VMBenchmarks/index.htm l and http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/10/22/43TC-parallels-fusion_1.html will need to buy some more RAM. I thought the sales associate told me that the Macbook is expandable to 4GB Memory. Try it with 2GB. More RAM does not necessairly help and actually slows down launch time. And don't forget that things run better under XP than Vista. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM
At 1:45 PM -0600 3/28/09, Fred Jones wrote: I just bought a 13 inch Macbook (the 2.4GHz model). The Macbook came with 2GB of DDR3 Memory. I need to run a few Windows programs so I guess I will need VMWare Fusion or Parallels. Could you guys please let me know if one of those programs would be best and if I will need to buy some more RAM. I thought the sales associate told me that the Macbook is expandable to 4GB Memory. I checked the reviews on Amazon and Fusion had better reviews, but the Mac Genius at the Mac store liked Parallels best. I like VirtualBox from Sun. It works really well, and it's FREE! http://virtualbox.org Buy your additional RAM at OtherWorld Computing http://macsales.com 4GB RAM for your MacBook: $47.95 http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?sort=popmodel=294type=MemoryTI=2112shoupgrds=Show+Upgrades -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] VMWare Fusion or Parallels? and RAM
I like VirtualBox from Sun. It works really well, and it's FREE! http://virtualbox.org Oh yes that one. I don't know anybody using it. MacWorld's review says it is slow with OpenGL stuff and has an ugly interface. You centainly won't be losing anything by testing it. Parallels has a 30-day demo you can compare it to. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
