Re: [Cooker] mozilla 1.3a
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 04:17, Ben Reser wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 03:58:29PM +1300, Jason Greenwood wrote: That is Soo subjective. But I guess when you are paying the developers then hey we got a Mozilla that works with Flash, whats the point, It didnt make sense not to release it! I guees the rules are Stable final release - only replace by new stable or beta with needed features unstable final release - replace with final/beta/alpha that solves problems from unstable relase. just another 2 cents from /Glen
Re: [Cooker] MS Fonts in a bag
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 19:45, Bryan Whitehead wrote: Anyone have a mirror? the site is dead. Why the hell would you want it? Ben's script is Mandrake-specific and available from PLF. Austin -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] [OT] MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?
At 01:21 PM 12/18/02 +0800, you (Leon Brooks) wrote: since all of the pieces except for a little blue Mandrake glue are available elsewhere, and usually under the GPL, it seems 100% legal to use all but the restricted `blue glue' software under the previous conditions of use. have you looked at the license for DansGuardian - a component of MNF ? It's Gpl all right (it has been approved by the pope :-)), but it's certainly not your run-of-the-mill Gpl. Basically you get one free download; if you want to download it more than one time, to get fixes for example (including security fixes) from the official site or the 'approved' mirrors, and if you use it for _commercial_ usage, you have to pay. Btw, Mandrake's name is in the license explanation as an exemple of a customer who has to pay g So it seems that Mandrake is not alone in thinking that security products deserve specially crafted licenses. Gerard
Re: [Cooker] [OT] MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?
Ben Reser wrote: e) On the license page which I've already provided the URL to several times above... you say that if I decide to as a VAR sell MNF to my clients that I must conform to all of MandrakeSoft's intellectual rights and trademark protections listed in the product (this includes removing MandrakeSoft logos trademarks from the product). This seems to be a catch 22. The GPL requires you to display an appropriate copyright, while it is not clear in this, I would take that to mean that I must display a Mandrake copyright notice on the software Mandrake wrote. Additionally it requires that if it is an interactive program that I display an appropriate copyright notice if the program displays that. Since Mandrakesoft would obviously lay trademark rights to it's own name, how can I possibly comply? IMO : the code source is GPL, so you can use it, fork it sell it, etc.. using the terms of the GPL, which are : you have to display the authors of the program and clearly indicate the changes that you made. Now, what Mandrakesoft prevents you is using the Mandrakesoft trademark as advertisement or promotion to commercialise their product. This is not the same thing : on one hand, the GPL ask you to make a notice of the authors when you use their intellectual work, and this, Mandrakesoft cannot prevent you to do it, because they would prevent you to fullfill the terms of the GPL, thus they would break the GPL themselves. On the other hand, the GPL does not grant you the right to use the reputation of a trade mark. In this latter case, this is not the GPL which applies, but the laws on trade marks. My 2c understanding. Eric
Re: [Cooker] [OT] DansGuardian Licensing (was: MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?)
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 09:48:33AM +0100, Gerard Patel wrote: have you looked at the license for DansGuardian - a component of MNF ? It's Gpl all right (it has been approved by the pope :-)), but it's certainly not your run-of-the-mill Gpl. Basically you get one free download; if you want to download it more than one time, to get fixes for example (including security fixes) from the official site or the 'approved' mirrors, and if you use it for _commercial_ usage, you have to pay. Btw, Mandrake's name is in the license explanation as an exemple of a customer who has to pay g So it seems that Mandrake is not alone in thinking that security products deserve specially crafted licenses. Just in case anyone is wondering about this, details are here: http://dansguardian.org/?page=copyright2 Frankly, I think this guy is smoking crack. What he's saying is that you can't download it from his site for commercial use unless you pay him a fee. If I download it from another site then I can use it for commercial purposes as much as I like. After a discussion with RMS apparently he updated the site to make this more clear. Frankly, I think this is an end run around the GPL. He wants to get the benefit of saying he's doing open source software, while at the same time trying to get paid in the same manner as a proprietary vendor. At best his text is terribly confusing. So yeah it is GPL but it is not. I feel that the authors intent certainly violates the FSF principle freedoms as defined here: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html In particular the principle of freedom for any use. And I feel he violates the Open Source principles of non-discrimination which is part of the Open Source definition as found here: http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php It appears that the FSF has already tried to educate him, and the page was changed to make it a download fee, but I still think it's confusing and downright dirty pool. You can read the thread that got him to make some changes here: http://www.be.linux.org/pipermail/asbl-libre/2001-October/24.html At any rate I feel Mandrake should immediately remove this product from MNF. I don't see how this is any different from the pine issue. And at the very end of that page you'll see that the author still tries to imply that a commercial user downloading from someplace else is using an illegal download. If Mandrake doesn't do that, perhaps those of us who are mirror Mandrake should consider removing the MNF ISOs until they do. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough. - Jim Nichols
Re: [Cooker] [OT] MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:58:40AM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: IMO : the code source is GPL, so you can use it, fork it sell it, etc.. using the terms of the GPL, which are : you have to display the authors of the program and clearly indicate the changes that you made. Now, what Mandrakesoft prevents you is using the Mandrakesoft trademark as advertisement or promotion to commercialise their product. This is not the same thing : on one hand, the GPL ask you to make a notice of the authors when you use their intellectual work, and this, Mandrakesoft cannot prevent you to do it, because they would prevent you to fullfill the terms of the GPL, thus they would break the GPL themselves. On the other hand, the GPL does not grant you the right to use the reputation of a trade mark. In this latter case, this is not the GPL which applies, but the laws on trade marks. It's an esoteric issue. I can see interpretations of it in several ways. No matter what the interpretation is, Mandrake should publically explain in very precise terms what they are asking of everyone. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough. - Jim Nichols
[Cooker] [Bug 667] [guile] libguile version 9 wanted
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Component|packaging |packaging Product|gnucash |guile Version|1.6.8-2mdk |1.6.0-1mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 09:32 --- It can't be rebuild with guile 1.6... --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: libguile.so.9 is reported as needed to install gnucash. However, libguile.so.12 is provided in cooker.
[Cooker] [Bug 666] [libqt3-devel] Problem with QT apps under gnome
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=666 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Component|gnome2 |documentation Product|gnome2 |libqt3-devel Version|2.0.1-1mdk |3.1.1-1mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 09:44 --- qt bug --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: For example, pop-up dialogs never show up and X control is lost. One good example is designer-qt3. It runs fine under kde, but segfaults under gnome. libqt3-devel-3.1.1-1mdk libglib2.0_0-devel-2.1.5-1mdk glibc-devel-2.3.1-2mdk
[Cooker] [Bug 668] [kdebase] New: Image Index : no icon
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: Image Index : no icon Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no icon in the KDE menu for Image Index. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 668] [kdebase] Image Index : no icon
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: There is no icon in the KDE menu for Image Index.
[Cooker] [Bug 669] [kdebase] New: Linux Kernel : error message
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: Linux Kernel : error message Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When launching Linux Kernel software, a message error appears : the kernel configuration could not be read ... --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 669] [kdebase] Linux Kernel : error message
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: When launching Linux Kernel software, a message error appears : the kernel configuration could not be read ...
[Cooker] [Bug 670] [kdebase] New: Bug in Linux Images (maybe?)
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=670 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: Bug in Linux Images (maybe?) Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When changing the user image (tux, dog, flower etc) in Linux Image and clicking on Defaults, the others changed values came back to defaults, but the user image don't came back to the first one. Maybe it's not a bug because this image is choosen by the user during the installation. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 670] [kdebase] Bug in Linux Images (maybe?)
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=670 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: When changing the user image (tux, dog, flower etc) in Linux Image and clicking on Defaults, the others changed values came back to defaults, but the user image don't came back to the first one. Maybe it's not a bug because this image is choosen by the user during the installation.
[Cooker] [Bug 312] [OpenOffice.org] OpenOffice looks for SANE libraries in wrong place
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=312 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 10:07 --- Please tell me the steps to reproduce that bug. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: OpenOffice looks for sane libraries in /usr/local/lib rather than in /usr/lib Soft linking /lib/libsane.so into /usr/local/lib is a quick hack to get proper scanner support in OpenOffice.
[Cooker] [Bug 671] [kdebase] New: Fonts can't be launched
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: Fonts can't be launched Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fonts program is not able to be executed. No error messages. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 671] [kdebase] Fonts can't be launched
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=671 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: Fonts program is not able to be executed. No error messages.
[Cooker] [Bug 672] [kdebase] New: StyleSheets program problem
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: StyleSheets program problem Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] StyleSheets program can't be launched. No error message. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 673] [kdebase] New: StyleSheets program problem
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=673 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: StyleSheets program problem Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] StyleSheets program can't be launched. No error message. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 666] [libqt3-devel] Problem with QT apps under gnome
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=666 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: For example, pop-up dialogs never show up and X control is lost. One good example is designer-qt3. It runs fine under kde, but segfaults under gnome. libqt3-devel-3.1.1-1mdk libglib2.0_0-devel-2.1.5-1mdk glibc-devel-2.3.1-2mdk
Re: [Cooker] MS Fonts in a bag
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 03:36:57AM -0500, Austin Acton wrote: Why the hell would you want it? Ben's script is Mandrake-specific and available from PLF. Actually it isn't in PLF. At least not to my knowledge and it's not in the 9.0 tree on club-internet.fr's mirror. Besides my site as far as I know only Texstar is carrying it. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough. - Jim Nichols
Re: [Cooker] [OT] DansGuardian Licensing (was: MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?)
At 01:23 AM 12/18/02 -0800, you (Ben Reser) wrote: (...) Frankly, I think this is an end run around the GPL. Well, I can't say if DansGuardian's license is GPL or not - IANAL. When you word a legal text such as a contract - a license or other - you have to be very careful, there are always people waiting to hit on every part of it to make it say something you never really intended. You of all people should know :-) Gerard
Re: [Cooker] rosegarden-4-0.82mdk.rpm midi notation package
Yes there is i have made a Rosegarden-4-0.8 mandtake 9.0 rpm available at unsupported/club and a rosegarden-4-0.8 mandrake 9.0 cvs rpm available at http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound9.0.html /thac
[Cooker] [Bug 605] [urpmi] urpmi should not return rc=0 in case of wget error
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=605 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|VERIFIED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 10:58 --- mozilla is OK now - thanks --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: If something gets wrong during urpmi, urpmi should not : 1. return with $? = 0 2. say everything already installed exemple: # urpmi cvs --17:21:14-- ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/cvs-1.11.2-3mdk.i586.rpm = `/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cvs-1.11.2-3mdk.i586.rpm' Resolving proxy.xxx.fr... done. Connecting to proxy.xx.fr[zzz.zzz.zzz.zzz]:3128... connected. Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden 17:21:14 ERROR 403: Forbidden. everything already installed # echo $? 0 I have verified that wget returns RC=1 in this case, so urpmi internal processing can catch the error.
[Cooker] [Bug 667] [guile] libguile version 9 wanted
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 11:01 --- Will people please stop being lazy and at least check for correct maintainers? Gnucash maintainer will know what to do with his package since is probably following its development, or even add support for new guile and contribute upstream. Guile maintainer will probably not revert back to old guile because of one program relying on oldies and possibly obsolete things. Why would he? --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: libguile.so.9 is reported as needed to install gnucash. However, libguile.so.12 is provided in cooker.
[Cooker] [Bug 674] [kdebase] New: development environments idle
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674 Product: kdebase Component: documentation Summary: development environments idle Version: 3.1-0.rc5.5mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Process to reproduce: = *Language English *under KDE *open KDE =Applications=development=development environments=idle (0.8) *to close this aplictaion, click on the cross Descriptions: = After opening this application, the window closed after few secondes. closing action is not immediately --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 667] [guile] libguile version 9 wanted
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 11:21 --- I assigned the bug to guile maintainer since he is the one who uploaded a version which is not backward compatible with previous stable version and because no support for guile 1.6 is scheduled in the near/mid future of gnucash.. So, we need both guile stable versions in the distro.. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: libguile.so.9 is reported as needed to install gnucash. However, libguile.so.12 is provided in cooker.
[Cooker] [Bug 605] [urpmi] urpmi should not return rc=0 in case of wget error
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=605 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 11:23 --- s/mozilla/urpmi/hem... :) --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: If something gets wrong during urpmi, urpmi should not : 1. return with $? = 0 2. say everything already installed exemple: # urpmi cvs --17:21:14-- ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/cvs-1.11.2-3mdk.i586.rpm = `/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/cvs-1.11.2-3mdk.i586.rpm' Resolving proxy.xxx.fr... done. Connecting to proxy.xx.fr[zzz.zzz.zzz.zzz]:3128... connected. Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden 17:21:14 ERROR 403: Forbidden. everything already installed # echo $? 0 I have verified that wget returns RC=1 in this case, so urpmi internal processing can catch the error.
[Cooker] [Bug 591] [galeon] galeon segfaulting _very_ frequently
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 11:31 --- No problem here with 1.3.1-2mdk.. I need a reproducible testcase --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: The latest galeon is segfaulting for me on a very frequent basis. It seems to be related to opening new tabs/pages and happens about 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 times I try to open a new page or tab.
[Cooker] [Bug 312] [OpenOffice.org] OpenOffice looks for SANE libraries in wrong place
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=312 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 11:42 --- To trigger the bug it is sufficient to try to scan a document when the sane rpm packages are installed and a scanner is linked to the PC. On my machine, it is impossible to properly select a scan source unless the link described above is made. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: OpenOffice looks for sane libraries in /usr/local/lib rather than in /usr/lib Soft linking /lib/libsane.so into /usr/local/lib is a quick hack to get proper scanner support in OpenOffice.
[Cooker] [Bug 673] [kdebase] StyleSheets program problem
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||DUPLICATE --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 11:58 --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 672 *** --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: StyleSheets program can't be launched. No error message.
[Cooker] [Bug 672] [kdebase] StyleSheets program problem
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 11:58 --- *** Bug 673 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: StyleSheets program can't be launched. No error message.
[Cooker] [Bug 672] [kdebase] StyleSheets program problem
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: StyleSheets program can't be launched. No error message.
Re: [Cooker] [OT] MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?
Ben Reser wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:58:40AM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: IMO : the code source is GPL, so you can use it, fork it sell it, etc.. using the terms of the GPL, which are : you have to display the authors of the program and clearly indicate the changes that you made. Now, what Mandrakesoft prevents you is using the Mandrakesoft trademark as advertisement or promotion to commercialise their product. This is not the same thing : on one hand, the GPL ask you to make a notice of the authors when you use their intellectual work, and this, Mandrakesoft cannot prevent you to do it, because they would prevent you to fullfill the terms of the GPL, thus they would break the GPL themselves. On the other hand, the GPL does not grant you the right to use the reputation of a trade mark. In this latter case, this is not the GPL which applies, but the laws on trade marks. It's an esoteric issue. I can see interpretations of it in several ways. No matter what the interpretation is, Mandrake should publically explain in very precise terms what they are asking of everyone. Yes, but it is not so much esoteric : you may and have to mention the mandrake name if you use their GPL code. It is not the same thing than using their name to promote a product. If you put Mandrake's code in your GPL program, you may do so, and you need to say in the source that that part of code has been written by MDK. However, it is not allowed to advertise Buy my incredible product, powered by Mandrakesoft MNF code for example, just Buy my incredible product, it is better than the others ! ;) Eric
Re: [Cooker] [OT] DansGuardian Licensing (was: MNF and licencingissues, who do I ask?)
Ben Reser wrote: Frankly, I think this guy is smoking crack. What he's saying is that you can't download it from his site for commercial use unless you pay him a fee. If I download it from another site then I can use it for commercial purposes as much as I like. After a discussion with RMS apparently he updated the site to make this more clear. Frankly, I think this is an end run around the GPL. He wants to get the benefit of saying he's doing open source software, while at the same time trying to get paid in the same manner as a proprietary vendor. At best his text is terribly confusing. I totally agree with you. The first sentence shows For all non-commercial use DansGuardian 2 can be downloaded under the GPL http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl.html This is a complete non-sense : the first part introduces a restriction, which is incompatible with the terms of the licence. It is exactly like Ford, who sold only black cars in the 20s for economy reasons, who said You can choose the colour you want, if this colour is the black. What he could have done, is restrict the download of binaries and source code, and comply to the GPL by giving the source only to people who buy the binaries. But he would loose the public help to enhance his code, because it would be more difficult to spread his code. I do not understand how RMS could accept that. I guess he just put the fact that RMS has read that to have a kind of excuse... Eric
Re: [Cooker] [OT] DansGuardian Licensing (was: MNF and licencingissues, who do I ask?)
Eric Fernandez wrote: I totally agree with you. The first sentence shows For all non-commercial use DansGuardian 2 can be downloaded under the GPL http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl.html This is a complete non-sense : the first part introduces a restriction, which is incompatible with the terms of the licence. It is exactly like Ford, who sold only black cars in the 20s for economy reasons, who said You can choose the colour you want, if this colour is the black. What he could have done, is restrict the download of binaries and source code, and comply to the GPL by giving the source only to people who buy the binaries. But he would loose the public help to enhance his code, because it would be more difficult to spread his code. I do not understand how RMS could accept that. I guess he just put the fact that RMS has read that to have a kind of excuse... Eric I want to make some precisions to what I wrote : by commercial use he seems to mean non-GPL software. Because he says that incorporating to a selling distribution is allowed freely. So by that definition it would be ok. However, I do not like that confusion with commercial and proprietary or closed-source. And the Mandrake page about MNF has the same problem. What has to be emphasized is the fact that the GPL IS also a commercial licence. You may make money with it. I know that for a lot of people that they quickly conclude that GPL means free-beer and non-commercial, and maybe using the word commercial is better in their MNF advertisement. But I think it is disppointing that the Linux and GPL advocates like Mandrake contribute to that confusion. Eric
[Cooker] [Bug 675] [glibc] New: Muttrc reply_regexp='^((Re:)? *)*' causes crash in glibc
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675 Product: glibc Component: glibc Summary: Muttrc reply_regexp='^((Re:)? *)*' causes crash in glibc Version: 2.3.1-2mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: critical Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] After upgrading glibc, Mutt started to crash. The crash is caused by the reply_regexp setting from Muttrc (or ~/.muttrc). The simplest regexp that still crashes is: set reply_regexp='^((Re:)? *)*' Backstrace points to glibc: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/debug gdb /usr/bin/mutt #0 __libc_malloc (bytes=4) at malloc.c:3292 #1 0x4021b14b in re_node_set_init_1 (set=0x42c72aa8, elem=0) at regex_internal.c:615 #2 0x4021b8ca in re_node_set_insert (set=0x42c72aa8, elem=838201) at regex_internal.c:863 #3 0x40210730 in duplicate_node_closure (dfa=0x8107a90, top_org_node=2, top_clone_node=838200, root_node=0, init_constraint=16) at regcomp.c:1283 #4 0x402106e9 in duplicate_node_closure (dfa=0x8107a90, top_org_node=1, top_clone_node=838198, root_node=0, init_constraint=16) at regcomp.c:1274 (keeps looping on duplicate_node_closure) #104777 0x402106e9 in duplicate_node_closure (dfa=0x8107a90, top_org_node=1, top_clone_node=14, root_node=0, init_constraint=16) at regcomp.c:1274 #104778 0x402106e9 in duplicate_node_closure (dfa=0x8107a90, top_org_node=0, top_clone_node=0, root_node=0, init_constraint=16) at regcomp.c:1274 #104779 0x40210cd2 in calc_eclosure_iter (new_set=0xbfffe790, dfa=0x8107a90, node=0, root=1) at regcomp.c:1410 #104780 0x40210a33 in calc_eclosure (dfa=0x8107a90) at regcomp.c:1368 #104781 0x402102be in analyze (dfa=0x8107a90) at regcomp.c:980 #104782 0x4020fe68 in re_compile_internal (preg=0x8108c28, pattern=0x8137b28 ^((Re:)? *)*, length=12, syntax=242428) at regcomp.c:777 #104783 0x4020faff in __regcomp (preg=0x8108c28, pattern=0x8137b28 ^((Re:)? *)*, cflags=0) at regcomp.c:495 #104784 0x08065747 in strcpy () at strcpy:-1 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?
Mandrake has clarified the status of the MNF licensing on that page : http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/mnf/license I think this is clear enough now. Eric
Re: [Cooker] MS Fonts in a bag
On Wednesday 18 December 2002 04:36 pm, Austin Acton wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 19:45, Bryan Whitehead wrote: Anyone have a mirror? the site is dead. Why the hell would you want it? To see if Microsoft lets it pass. If it remains unmolested for, say, a year, then that's a precedent. If Microsoft sue you for bundling the fonts after that, they have to first explain why they didn't act against this well-publicised site doing the same. Cheers; Leon
[Cooker] gstreamer ppc build has bogus dependency on NASM
The packages gstreamer and gstreamer-plugins have a build dependency on nasm, even when building on a non-x86 architecture. gstreamer builds fine without the assembly code, however, so a %ifarch ix86 around this buildreq would be nice. Christiaan
Re: [Cooker] gstreamer ppc build has bogus dependency on NASM
Am Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2002, 13:43:56 Uhr MET, schrieb cjw: The packages gstreamer and gstreamer-plugins have a build dependency on nasm, even when building on a non-x86 architecture. gstreamer builds fine without the assembly code, however, so a %ifarch ix86 around this buildreq would be nice. Thanks, I'll fix it. But gstreamer-plugins doesn't build ATM because the v4l headers are broken. -- Götz Waschk master of computer science University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key -- Logout Fascism! --
Re: [Cooker] [OT] MNF and licencing issues, DansGuardian and decoupling
On Wednesday 18 December 2002 04:48 pm, Gerard Patel wrote: So it seems that Mandrake is not alone in thinking that security products deserve specially crafted licenses. I think in this case that the licence for the software itself should be clearly decoupled from the licence to pull security data like virus signatures or updated blocking lists. If need be, 3rd parties could offer those. Cheers; Leon
[Cooker] cooker mailserver problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I hope this goes thru because I'm using a different relay. I can't send mail to the list: [root@kato junfan]# mailq - -Queue ID- --Size-- Arrival Time -Sender/Recipient--- 92FF637E37 2257 Tue Dec 17 17:31:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (host smtp.mandrax.org[63.209.80.232] said: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [12.32.79.67]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, [junfan@kato junfan]$ dig @smtp.mandrax.org -x 12.32.79.67 PTR ; DiG 9.2.2rc1 @smtp.mandrax.org -x 12.32.79.67 PTR ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 25659 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;67.79.32.12.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; ANSWER SECTION: 67.79.32.12.in-addr.arpa. 862 IN PTR kato.jeetkunedomaster.net. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 67.79.32.12.in-addr.arpa. 862 IN NS ns.penguinfarm.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns.penguinfarm.com. 65769 IN A 12.32.79.65 ;; Query time: 86 msec ;; SERVER: 63.209.80.232#53(smtp.mandrax.org) ;; WHEN: Wed Dec 18 07:44:55 2002 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 129 Apparently the mailserver isn't using it's own caching DNS? - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPgBviRFHZPcobeHxAQJmpQP/QP0Wzh5t7JGWnxHu3didLYC7eAwQ1trF b+pRoM3+qKxbXiw1k/FnEmkaedhiPs6Mz4srko3SdbL3V6UZ6gTHWcJpGds9gdhi oLiJiqxRRJCjjO1gPvAT8StTAai3mkpZMnGkIPvxLpa24jBg3xyaTRtSLE6W5kZm NT0oUy8iOjo= =M03S -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] [Bug 676] [docbook-dtd412-xml] New: error msg installing the program
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=676 Product: docbook-dtd412-xml Component: packaging Summary: error msg installing the program Version: 1.0-11mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4:docbook-dtd412-xml ## add command failed add command failed add command failed error: execution of %post scriptlet from docbook-dtd412-xml-1.0-11mdk failed, exit status 3 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 677] [devhelp] New: gconftool not found installing devhelp
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677 Product: devhelp Component: packaging Summary: gconftool not found installing devhelp Version: 0.4-2mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't really know if it is a packaging problem of devhelp or urpmi not installing in the right order this 2 packages but it seems GConf souhlt be installed before devhelp. 62:devhelp## /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43861: line 1: gconftool: command not found /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43861: line 2: gconftool: command not found 63:GConf error: execu## tion of %post scriptlet from devhelp-0.4-2mdk failed, exit status 127 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 667] [guile] libguile version 9 wanted
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 14:47 --- I thought: Will people please stop being lazy and at least check for correct maintainers? was clear enough? In other and clear words, you have not assigned the bug to guile maintainer. I let you fix your broken assumptions. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: libguile.so.9 is reported as needed to install gnucash. However, libguile.so.12 is provided in cooker.
Re: [Cooker] cooker mailserver problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Straight) writes: I hope this goes thru because I'm using a different relay. this is anti-spam rules, you need to always use this relay if your domain is not static. -- Chmouel -- http://www.chmouel.com/
Re: [Cooker] cooker mailserver problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 18 December 2002 08:52, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Straight) writes: I hope this goes thru because I'm using a different relay. this is anti-spam rules, you need to always use this relay if your domain is not static. Just yesterday I started having problems. Normally I don't send through mail.nmo.net, I use postfix on my laptop as my smtp relay. my laptop moves between 2 places which both reverse lookup fine. Did something change yesterday? - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPgCAqxFHZPcobeHxAQJ0EQQArOf+27R1Bf8Imk1wTD2zpSk4S5cMsVvm VeBRATgMVOszzEVgNrcNGV29B2A/sqZzvOCqycytrrHZJdGSPJNztHgbVmn4OoZ3 TleB/GbcLYt8INLIAdMRw7Kt+Vz1uz5KvUunfuAKQ8O6OqYCGzJH2JaHXJGk8ffM PLX+MtZ60co= =ZYg/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] quota acts weird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As a sidenote - there is a newer version of quota-tools available that works better. And compiles cleanly as of a few days ago at least. On Tuesday 17 December 2002 16:13, David Walser wrote: Was gonna submit this in Bugzilla, but quota's not a choice there. On a machine mounting home directories with NFS/autofs, if there are more than just your homedir mounted and you just do quota instead of quota -v you get weird output: Disk quotas for user djw9202 (uid 2042): Filesystem blocks quota limit grace files quota limit grace claude:/export/home/exb4457 24398 153600 204800 2100 15000 2 claude:/export/home/djw9202 24398 153600 204800 2100 15000 2 Basically showing my quota, but associating it with both homedirs. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPf+lqRFHZPcobeHxAQJ8kgP/bQnlA0faf9D2eu5iFfTltlPgZDNZOTHD 9f/7tgtllN/UHhPEfx3i92aaPmi39UN912xCmqJ7+wvo//L/uhYpt6un1WBUEtDb 5P2khtg+ZsA4NuaSSYbwnvp9AJu+LyvEvtjQQ6nicOygCGWnkII3FqHlPHrt6dKc POnOp7sul0U= =SR7A -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] SIM/glibc (dns) - [can't connect]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I could have sworn I already sent this but not in my sent/outbox or on the list. SIM must have some issues with glibc update and DNS resolution. I recompiled SIM a few mins ago from CVS and still have the problem. I cannot connect to icq using name based resolution, I had to put in the IP# for the icq login server. - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPf+2vRFHZPcobeHxAQKQaAP8D4gEFDS6sgO2sGZdSy6i+l1sXZyV4xhL 7tntimCuck1Y4q/wv5UHzdbe6Wu0rH8kpdeR24Zz47wHAa+gPhkrPVgLj7eG5f2c Dt1wrK1+LdsOcWD+L8qJe0Ai2k0OquiW87mmncdk18s4R7t1MlBmyZaRVYw2UFem p4AdiTDwDkg= =MhCt -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] cooker mailserver problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 18 December 2002 09:05, Jason Straight wrote: On Wednesday 18 December 2002 08:52, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Straight) writes: I hope this goes thru because I'm using a different relay. this is anti-spam rules, you need to always use this relay if your domain is not static. Just yesterday I started having problems. Normally I don't send through mail.nmo.net, I use postfix on my laptop as my smtp relay. my laptop moves between 2 places which both reverse lookup fine. Did something change yesterday? The plot thickens - now that I'm back at work the mail in my queue on my laptop went. The odd part - my hostname (kato.jeetkundomaster.net) and my actual reverse dns lookup don't match right now, and now it works. hrm. - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPgCFjRFHZPcobeHxAQJo/wQAiKEpjzTUMMihEePlrwnasSx6AEzlna8N HS+V/UWkGBVRTP41OHaI6DMB2n6OZiGRQQDIXM6frih+j9eHZtXoId+NmMB85HsN 2namUIbuZX3d6MT7KbwW6X697LI0Hb7C2OJLqurWhDd/HbcBj4clB+ZIwLtIpsbK AtD3tCAtL5Q= =RWsz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] gtk-theme-switch and gtk-theme-switch2 doesn't change gtk theme
Hi, gtk-theme-switch and gtk-theme-switch2 doesn't change gtk theme at all. If I try to get a preview window I get this : [lea@meumeu lea]$ switch GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 186 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed. GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 186 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed. GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 186 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed. GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 186 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed. Same with switch2 wich correspond to the GTK2 used by Mozilla : [lea@meumeu lea]$ switch2 (switch2:15071): GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 230 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed (switch2:15071): GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 230 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed (switch2:15071): GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 230 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed (switch2:15071): GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 230 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed Using : gtk-theme-switch-1.0.1-1mdk gtk-theme-switch2-2.0.0-0.rc2.1mdk I don't have gnome installed So Mozilla remain with the same beige color since latest mozilla use native GTK2 on its classic theme. Would like to change this color -- Léa Gris () Campagne du ruban texte brut contre les courriels en HTML, /\ contre les pièces jointes Microsoft.
Re: [Cooker] ignorance...
onsdagen den 18 december 2002 02.11 skrev Glen Kjaerulff: On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 02:01, Steffen Barszus wrote: On Wednesday 18 December 2002 01:47, Oden Eriksson wrote: tisdagen den 17 december 2002 21.29 skrev psic4t: On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Oden Eriksson wrote: ehm, maybe your MUA is a bit broken. there's still enough messages per day. :) see it here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerr=1b=200212w=2 Bugs should be sent to package owners only (ie. to Mandrake employees only), as before, and not forced upon everyone else. Thats not true, but it is true that there should be an own list for bugzilla. Shouldnt i be more like ,if I have a bug put it on Bugzilla, if you want to a part of the solution and help solve the problem then put it on the cooker list for open debate, with a link to Bugzilla, the solution is then posted at bugzilla for history and bugtracking? then we dont need every bugzilla entry on the cooker list. people with a bugzilla account can then subscribe to that list.? Yes, that's much better I think.
[Cooker] [Bug 667] [guile] libguile version 9 wanted
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: libguile.so.9 is reported as needed to install gnucash. However, libguile.so.12 is provided in cooker.
[Cooker] [Bug 282] [autofs] Mandrake 9.0 RC2 : spurious accesses to /home/baudens
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=282 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: I think this is not an autofs problem, but automount reveal it. On Mandrake 9.0rc2, some software attempt to access to /home/baudens. This is not a big problem, except my /home is under automount. So, 20 or more times on a burst, my server complains about no existent directory for NFS mount. With 70 computer on network, this is hard... This happens when using KDE, but I can't figure if it is involved. On Mandrake 8.1, same problem, but with /home/lmontel ! Otherwise, autofs and NFS is OK, opposite to MDK8.2 ! Thanks.
[Cooker] [Bug 678] [kdebase] New: gringotts won't start from kde menu
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678
Product: kdebase
Component: kdebase
Summary: gringotts won't start from kde menu
Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk
Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gringotts is a contrib app for storing a list of passwords. Launching it in an
x-terminal or in
Gnome works just fine. This is the error that appears in ~/xsession-errors:
snip
kio (KLauncher): KLauncher: Got
start service by desktop path('Applications/File tools/Gringotts.desktop',
...)
kdeinit: Got EXT EXEC '/usr/bin/gringotts' from launcher.
Could not load library! Trying exec
kio (KLauncher): /usr/bin/gringotts (pid 32032) up and running.
(process:32032): gringotts-CRITICAL **: It isn't possible to redirect data to
stdin, as it is a potential security flaw.
kdeinit: PID 32032 terminated.
/snip
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[Cooker] [Bug 678] [kdebase] gringotts won't start from kde menu
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678
[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
Ever Confirmed||1
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 16:46 ---
This error always occurs when you pipe data to gringott's stdin, so the kde menu
system seems to to this:
[goetz@klama goetz]$ echo foobar|gringotts
(process:16021): gringotts-CRITICAL **: It isn't possible to redirect data to
stdin, as it is a potential security flaw.
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description:
Gringotts is a contrib app for storing a list of passwords. Launching it in an
x-terminal or in
Gnome works just fine. This is the error that appears in ~/xsession-errors:
snip
kio (KLauncher): KLauncher: Got
start service by desktop path('Applications/File tools/Gringotts.desktop',
...)
kdeinit: Got EXT EXEC '/usr/bin/gringotts' from launcher.
Could not load library! Trying exec
kio (KLauncher): /usr/bin/gringotts (pid 32032) up and running.
(process:32032): gringotts-CRITICAL **: It isn't possible to redirect data to
stdin, as it is a potential security flaw.
kdeinit: PID 32032 terminated.
/snip
[Cooker] [Bug 679] [kdebase] New: Change Password problem
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: Change Password problem Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this application, at starting, a window appears asking to the user to type current password, if the typed password isn't correct, a window error appears : Error : Unknow error. The only choice is close button and the program ends. The principal window is resizable. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 679] [kdebase] Change Password problem
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: In this application, at starting, a window appears asking to the user to type current password, if the typed password isn't correct, a window error appears : Error : Unknow error. The only choice is close button and the program ends. The principal window is resizable.
[Cooker] [Bug 680] [kdebase] New: Some help of KCron missing
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: Some help of KCron missing Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In KCron, in help menu, there is an option what is this?. It is supposed to give some help by clicking on a part of the window. It doesn't work. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 680] [kdebase] Some help of KCron missing
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: In KCron, in help menu, there is an option what is this?. It is supposed to give some help by clicking on a part of the window. It doesn't work.
[Cooker] Unsigned packages in contribs
Is there a reason that some contrib packages are left unsigned? If Mandrake rebuilds uploaded SRPMs why aren't they then signed with the Mandrake key? -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.org
Re: [Cooker] Re: procps 2.0.11 out
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, noone ever commented on the procps fork... the new one is missing some key bindings In one of the last couple updates they added some that they were missing. Can you be more specific on anymore that are missing or any other problems you have with it? I'll pass it on to the developers. i already speak about this with Albert D. Cahalan. so they did add back the key bindings i cry for :-) ok, let procps3-3.1.4 born into contribs
Re: [Cooker] SIM/glibc (dns) - [can't connect]
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jason Straight wrote: SIM must have some issues with glibc update and DNS resolution. I recompiled SIM a few mins ago from CVS and still have the problem. I cannot connect to icq using name based resolution, I had to put in the IP# for the icq login server. Same here. Works with manual IP. How does glibc interfere with DNS lookups? BTW: Expect a new snapshot of SIM in contribs soon. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow. :) greets, Matthias. -- Public Key ID: 0x8078B10C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Unsigned packages in contribs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 18 December 2002 10:55 am, Steve Fox wrote: Is there a reason that some contrib packages are left unsigned? If Mandrake rebuilds uploaded SRPMs why aren't they then signed with the Mandrake key? Because Mandrake can't vouch for their integrity. The building of SRPMs is (most likely) an automated process, and obviously the source is not looked at for each revision of an app. I do however also find the errors by rpmdrake _very_ annoying. Could Mandrake perhaps include a seperate key for signing contrib apps, and give a message (but only once) that the signing only proves that the package was built by Mandrake, nothing else. WDYT? - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+AFZjgzJdfX+cTW8RAtAUAJ0RWdSyILyntWWGm/jtIWgeh2nKJwCgpXS1 oJlAmpLPUBfJUDG7HBf6J0E= =nY2K -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] MS Fonts in a bag
You're right. My bad. Austin On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 04:30, Ben Reser wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 03:36:57AM -0500, Austin Acton wrote: Why the hell would you want it? Ben's script is Mandrake-specific and available from PLF. Actually it isn't in PLF. At least not to my knowledge and it's not in the 9.0 tree on club-internet.fr's mirror. Besides my site as far as I know only Texstar is carrying it. -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] gtkglarea2-1.99.0-1mdk
Huh? Is this the wrong changelog? On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 09:45, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: gtkglarea2 Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.99.0Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Wed Dec 18 15:41:08 2002 --=-=-= * Sat Aug 03 2002 Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.2.3-4mdk - BuildRequires -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca
[Cooker] Menudrake Broken
This message is in MIME format.
[Cooker] randomseed french translation is funny :)
while installing new glibc and looking at services restarting I could read this funny translation : Sauvegarde de la graine aléatoire : [ OK ] Initialisation du générateur de nombre aléatoire : [ OK ] ... -- Pascal Cavy - VMF __ Running up 6 days, 18:21, 7 users, load average: 0.23, 0.18, 0.18 (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2-4mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.20-2mdkenterprise
Re: [Cooker] Menudrake Broken
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, nDiScReEt wrote: This message is in MIME format. nice. plain text would be cool. SCNR, Matthias. -- Public Key ID: 0x8078B10C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Menudrake Broken
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 18 December 2002 11:09 am, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:57:09 +, nDiScReEt wrote: This message is in MIME format. Can't read your message... Sorry, somewhere it lost my original message but because I have kmail set to most secure it won't view any HTML documents. Weird, considering I wasn't trying to send a HTML message. Anyhow, here is the problem reposted: When I run menudrake (as root), from within MCC I can not load the menu. If I try to run mcc with the command su -c mcc I get the following error: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Cannot be run in console mode. Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/drakconf.real line 34. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/drakconf.real line 34. If I do the same with menudrake from the command line, su -c menudrake, I can run menudrake and make changes to the root menu or system menu. So ...technically Menudrake isn't broken... just broken from within mcc. rpm -qa|grep drak draksync-9.0-1mdk mandrake_doc-en-9.0-1mdk harddrake-9.1-0.3mdk drakxtools-9.1-0.3mdk menudrake-0.7.2-1mdk drakcronat-0.1.3-1mdk mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk drakfirsttime-0.16-12mdk rpmdrake-2.0-27mdk drakwizard-1.0-4mdk drakconf-9.1-0.3mdk mandrake-mime-0.3-1mdk drakxtools-newt-9.1-0.3mdk rfbdrake-0.8.3-8mdk harddrake-ui-9.1-0.3mdk mandrake_desk-9.0-21mdk userdrake-0.5-5mdk - -- - Altoine B Maximum Time Unlimited Chicago Based and Operated http://pgp.mit.edu - I judge a religion as being good or bad based on whether its adherents become better people as a result of practicing it. - - Joe Mullally, computer salesman - 2.4.20-2nder Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Cooker) for i586 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ALS+xjybQmhmUgYRAgD7AJ97Cqa3+r3G1wmmBBNguahyh/ZduQCfZ2a/ AX3+HgGpgKJcBqBD2rkkuOY= =rOQU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] KBabel slow and crashes...
KBabel 1.0 crashes with errorcode 11 (SIGSEGV)
This happens with large '.po' files like the DrakX-fi.po wich has 2300
entries in it. The Backtrace is last in this mail...
(it also happends when reading through many of the smaller files,
but not so often ...)
My system is a laptop P3-700 with 512MB of RAM.
I'm running cooker, updated as of today 03.00 EET.
- kernel-2.4.20.2mdk-1-1mdk
- kdebase-3.1-0.rc5.7mdk
- kdesdk-3.1-0.rc5.3mdk
- glibc-2.3.1-2mdk
- libqt3-3.1.1-1mdk
(this problem has been around for almost a month,
I have been updating the system every second day...)
the Translation Database is set to use all '-fi.po' files...
(wich is a total of about 8000 entries)
I can easily reproduce it like this:
I start KBabel translation Manager, and from there open the DrakX-fi.po.
Using the buttons to move to previous/next untranslated/fuzzy entries
repeatedly kbabel slows down more and more. The same happends if
I'm stepping through the file line by line with page up/down buttons.
It slows down, freezes and crashes
BACKTRACE:
--
[New Thread 16384 (LWP 1981)]
0x412d2539 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
#0 0x412d2539 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
#1 0x41352b48 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6
#2 0x410e7793 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0
#3 0x40821f0e in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) (sig=-1073749056)
at kcrash.cpp:235
#4 0x4166f291 in DataBaseManager::firstItem() (this=0xfe00)
at database.cpp:508
#5 0x41665f72 in KDBSearchEngine::startSearchNow(int) (this=0x8183ba8,
searchmode=1) at /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h:235
#6 0x41666572 in KDBSearchEngine::startSingleSearch(QString, unsigned,
unsigned, bool) (this=0x8183ba8, searchString=
{static null = {static null = same as static member of an already
seen type, d = 0x8051db0, static shared_null = 0x8051db0}, d = 0x83a19a0,
static shared_null = 0x8051db0}, pattern1Limit=20, inTranslation=false)
at KDBSearchEngine.cpp:818
#7 0x4166310b in KDBSearchEngine::startSearch(QString) (this=0x8183ba8,
str=)
at KDBSearchEngine.cpp:245
#8 0x400e2c19 in KBabelDictBox::startSearch(QString) (this=0xbfffea70,
text=
{static null = {static null = same as static member of an already
seen type, d = 0x8051db0, static shared_null = 0x8051db0}, d = 0x83a19a0,
static shared_null = 0x8051db0}) at kbabeldictbox.cpp:559
#9 0x40078b1e in KBabelView::startSelectionSearch(QString)
(this=0x8159ef8,
module=) at kbabelview.cpp:3560
#10 0x40081540 in KBabelView::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) (this=0x8159ef8,
_id=-1073746976, _o=0xbfffec80)
at /usr/lib/qt3/include/private/qucom_p.h:449
--
Thomas
PS. I tried to enter this through the BugZilla,
but it complains about 'invalid_username',
even if I'm logged in correctly... go figure ...
**
* If nothing else works, read the manual ... ... ...
**
[Cooker] [Bug 681] [Installation] New: autologin x-autostart
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681 Product: Installation Component: Installation Summary: autologin x-autostart Version: 1.759 Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: enhancement Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The installation process asks whether one would like to boot directly into eg. KDE, and later asks whether or not to start the X Server during boot. It would be more logical to ask the latter first, and only if 'yes' ask whether to auto-login. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 683] [MySQL] New: Security hole: remote arbitraty code execution in MySQL 3.23.54
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683 Product: MySQL Component: MySQL Summary: Security hole: remote arbitraty code execution in MySQL 3.23.54 Version: 3.23.53-5mdk Platform: PC URL: http://security.e-matters.de/advisories/042002.html OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read the security advisory at http://security.e-matters.de/advisories/042002.html . The hole has been corrected in MySQL version 3.23.54. Currently, the latest release is 3.23.54a (which corrects a minor problem with 3.23.54). The hole looks serious, updated 3.23.54a package should be prepared ASAP for 9.0, 8.2 and earlier releases and distributed through MandrakeUpdate before script kiddie exploits arrive (it might be too late already). --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 682] [kdebase] New: help missing in KDAT
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: help missing in KDAT Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The option what is this? of help menu doesn't work. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 684] [kdebase] New: help missing in KUser
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: help missing in KUser Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The option what is this? of help menu doesn't work. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 684] [kdebase] help missing in KUser
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: The option what is this? of help menu doesn't work.
[Cooker] [Bug 685] [kdebase] New: help missing in KPackage
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=685 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: help missing in KPackage Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: Other OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is this? option is not working well in this program. If there is no options to detail, why is there a what is this section ? --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 685] [kdebase] help missing in KPackage
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=685 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed||1 Platform|Other |PC --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: What is this? option is not working well in this program. If there is no options to detail, why is there a what is this section ?
[Cooker] [Bug 686] [arts] New: artsd segfaults if noatun is streaming and a wav plays asynchronously
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=686 Product: arts Component: program Summary: artsd segfaults if noatun is streaming and a wav plays asynchronously Version: 1.1.0-0.rc5.4mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: critical Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] artsd is started by kde with: /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -d -s 60 -m artsmessage -l 0 -f my sound driver is snd-intel8x0 If I launch noatun on a channel from www.live365.com no problem. It seems that while playing this, if another asynchronous sound pops up, then artsd segfaults: (gdb) info program Using the running image of child Thread 16386 (LWP 2814). Program stopped at 0x7. It stopped with signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. can be reproduced at will. # rpm -qa kde* kdesdk-3.1-0.rc5.3mdk kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-0.rc5.8mdk kdelibs-3.1-0.rc5.2mdk kdemultimedia-aktion-3.1-0.rc5.2mdk kdetoys-3.1-0.rc5.2mdk kdeaddons-3.1-0.rc5.1mdk kdegraphics-3.1-0.rc5.5mdk kdepim-3.1-0.rc5.6mdk kdebase-servicemenu-1.0-4mdk kdemultimedia-3.1-0.rc5.2mdk kdebase-3.1-0.rc5.8mdk kdeadmin-3.1-0.rc5.1mdk kde-i18n-fr-3.1-0.rc5.1mdk kdegames-3.1-0.rc5.1mdk kdeedu-3.1-0.rc5.1mdk kdenetwork-3.1-0.rc5.2mdk kdeutils-3.1-0.rc5.1mdk kdeartwork-3.1-0.rc5.1mdk # rpm -qa arts* arts-1.1.0-0.rc5.4mdk # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [82801BAICH2]: ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2 Intel 82801BA-ICH2 at 0xa800, irq 17 # cat /proc/asound/devices 0: [0- 0]: ctl 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback 24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture 1: : sequencer 33: : timer # cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.20-2mdkenterprise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2-4mdk)) #1 SMP Mon Dec 9 14:28:32 CET 2002 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] gtk-theme-switch and gtk-theme-switch2 doesn't change gtk theme
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:14:20 +0100, Lea Gris wrote: So Mozilla remain with the same beige color since latest mozilla use native GTK2 on its classic theme. Mozilla GTK2 don't support native theme.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Menudrake Broken
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:57:09 +, nDiScReEt wrote: This message is in MIME format. Can't read your message... -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Patch-o-matic
Marcel, Great, thanks! I'm also very willing to help. The patches I use are: ipt_time: Great shutting off internet access for the kids after 10pm or something ipt_string: Matches strings within packet payloads ipt_psd: Portscan detector, very nice ipt_nth: match every nth packet ipt_iplimit: you know about that one, quite useful ipt_recent: make a temporary bad-guy rule for someone who 'recently', say, triggered the portscan detector ip_conntrack_pptp and ip_nat_pptp: for allowing vpn connections from/through the firewall machine (I don't think these are part of patch-o-matic) Thanks! Rocco On Saturday 14 December 2002 04:20 am, Marcel Pol spake thusly: Which patches are the usefull ones over there? I haven't looked much there, just at string and iplimit, and iplimit seems interesting. Which ones do you use, and would you recommend? Most of that stuff doesn't change much, and shouldn't be that hard to make a patch of that patches into the mdk-kernel. I'd be willing to help wth that.
Re: [Cooker] [OT] MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:02:41AM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: Yes, but it is not so much esoteric : you may and have to mention the mandrake name if you use their GPL code. It is not the same thing than using their name to promote a product. If you put Mandrake's code in your GPL program, you may do so, and you need to say in the source that that part of code has been written by MDK. However, it is not allowed to advertise Buy my incredible product, powered by Mandrakesoft MNF code for example, just Buy my incredible product, it is better than the others ! ;) The problem is the GPL doesn't give or deny the right to names. It says nothing about trademarks. The BSD license is rather clear about this. Further, the GPL only requires an appropriate Copyright. What constitutes an appropriate Copyright is up for debate. While I understand your point. My point is that Mandrake should be very clear about what you can and can not do. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough. - Jim Nichols
[Cooker] Re: KBabel slow and crashes...
Viestissä Keskiviikko 18. Joulukuuta 2002 20:59, Stanislav Visnovsky kirjoitti: Hi! IMHO you have corrupted translation database on your disk. You can remove it by deleting $KDEHOME/share/apps/kbabeldict/dbsearchengine/* Then you should refill using the translation database configuration dialog. Does it help? Stanislav Yep... That was it. Now I cant get it to crash even if I want... ;-) Thanks... Now I can get back to translating the rest of the Finnish stuff (I'm aiming at 100% by the end of this week ;-) ...) Thomas
Re: [Cooker] [OT] MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:02:41AM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: Yes, but it is not so much esoteric : you may and have to mention the mandrake name if you use their GPL code. It is not the same thing than using their name to promote a product. If you put Mandrake's code in your GPL program, you may do so, and you need to say in the source that that part of code has been written by MDK. However, it is not allowed to advertise Buy my incredible product, powered by Mandrakesoft MNF code for example, just Buy my incredible product, it is better than the others ! ;) Okay let me backup and explain in detail what I'm trying to do here with this argument... As it standards now the VAR question on the licensing page is problematic for me. Mandrake is telling us that it's licensed under the GPL, but then putting a but in there. While I think this is a valid but, I think they are being intentionally vague here. I know darn well that if I showed this to my lawyer his response would be Pay the $1990.00 it's cheaper than your potential exposure on this. So I feel like I'm getting coerced into buying this. I don't mind paying for GPLed products, I just don't like getting coerced into buying them. So I'm trying to get them to clarify preciously what I have to do to comply with their intellectual property rights. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough. - Jim Nichols
Re: [Cooker] MNF and licencing issues, who do I ask?
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 12:18:58PM +, Eric Fernandez wrote: Mandrake has clarified the status of the MNF licensing on that page : http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/mnf/license I think this is clear enough now. This page has not had anything updated on it since I wrote my email. This is preciously the page to which I point out is not very clear in some respects. Go back and read my original email. Additionally, some of my questions go beyond just the license and things that should be on this page... -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough. - Jim Nichols
[Cooker] Konqueror not starting
Hi guys, I've just upgraded to the latest cooker KDE release and now when I want to start Konqueror I get just: konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9QComboBox13focusOutEventEP11QFocusEvent Anyone got the same problem ? Lukas
Re: [Cooker] Konqueror not starting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 18 December 2002 15:30, Lukas Vesely wrote: Hi guys, I've just upgraded to the latest cooker KDE release and now when I want to start Konqueror I get just: konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9QComboBox13focusOutEventEP11QFocusEvent Anyone got the same problem ? Lukas No but konqueror has ben (seg) croaking left and right here on a couple machines. - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPgDfIxFHZPcobeHxAQIMWgP/Rbb/c6MsazkEe3z5C//ArF9gIhyIFj+d qLvW+u/CmMPF5pCHNWnToXyhv7zroApSU3Iwq25dui8+0UbcUNeOf4NUMXXWBbgU fKlE/1ITbea//lLG/dcoDqZbjS1TuHQWuTYRlkKys13y3MlSp4Ij/RYY3XQG9x7F VhoLQnB5jOs= =qyQd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] (was: Konqueror not starting)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Trying to use tabbed browsing in konq seems to be the culprit - must be the new patches that open tabs behind is b0rken. segv every time on opening a tab. On Wednesday 18 December 2002 15:48, Jason Straight wrote: On Wednesday 18 December 2002 15:30, Lukas Vesely wrote: Hi guys, I've just upgraded to the latest cooker KDE release and now when I want to start Konqueror I get just: konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9QComboBox13focusOutEventEP11QFocusEvent Anyone got the same problem ? Lukas No but konqueror has ben (seg) croaking left and right here on a couple machines. - -- Jason Straight ICQ: 1796276 PGP: http://www.jeetkunedomaster.net/~jason/pubkey.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBPgDgYBFHZPcobeHxAQL6FgP/eE0KPerTAOLcjYH5iShiyn3gC5v2hY6q pj1Gda51dy0CUnWSmVlo7j27LtTxw/lj0nFyQCo7WYEwFk5XSUTJCIBABTqvOpCX /5XY+LvHFovR2H+UGHZqxxyuwlux1r43ZornBg+PzaP7DlHLcEb7yDJq/Dt+B3Pc 5/213biJhiw= =zqAK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Menudrake Broken
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:47:36AM -0600, nDiScReEt wrote: On Wednesday 18 December 2002 11:09 am, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:57:09 +, nDiScReEt wrote: This message is in MIME format. Can't read your message... Sorry, somewhere it lost my original message but because I have kmail set to most secure it won't view any HTML documents. Weird, considering I wasn't trying to send a HTML message. Anyhow, here is the problem reposted: It didn't send HTML. It sent a single text/plain attachment with the name clearsigned data. All that was contained in the attachment was the text This message is in MIME format. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough. - Jim Nichols
[Cooker] Urgent help about network.img rebuild !!!
Cooker gurus, please help, For a while I was strugling with a friends Sony Vaio laptop with Transmeta processor and some kind of crapified ALI chipset that was dying at boot on Mkd 9.0 and cooker, now I was able to recompile a 2.4.20 kernel de-ALIfied, mount the network.img disk, replace the existing vmlinuz and generate a small bootable CD from it ( to make thing crappyer this laptop don't have a floppy, also and the CD-ROM is some kind of FireWire that only leaves the network install path open), to our nice surprise the thing booted OK and then failed to load the network module ( 8139too) due the expected unresolved symbols. OK then I've mounted the network.rdz system image and then abruptly stopped, the modules are compressed with some kind of an archiver that I don't know and the archive extension is .mar !!!, I've never heard of it, can a guru of you help me with a indication or pointer to overcome that, we are anxious to see that little noty with Cooker on it and #mdk-cooker is dead :( Thank you, Mircea C.
[Cooker] new cooker install fails during package install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Installing a new cooker system via ftp fails just after starting to install the packages. It reads the first 50 header files, and then stops giving this output: - -- error ordering package list: (no errror) at /usr/bin/perl-install/pkgs.pm line 996 - - and one is thrown back to the choose packages to install step. If one goes through this step again, this output is displaid: - -- error ordering package list: cannot open Requirename index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) - -- Any ideas what's up? Thanks, Sascha - -- Please encrypt all correspondence. PGP key available from: http://individual.utoronto.ca/noyes/snoyes.asc - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+AJu2gzJdfX+cTW8RAsq1AKCHCT4mFDpyVjdxBEcjjOqwq2B3YQCgoXWC 6vGaJ9Dd4iSQR2M6b6LezL0= =RIiE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] [Bug 687] [kdebase] New: Konqueror tabbed browsing causes segv
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=687 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: Konqueror tabbed browsing causes segv Version: 3.1-0.rc5.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using tabbed browsing with konq (kdebase-3.1-0.rc5.9mdk) causes segv, tested with and without automatic go to new tabs. Turn off tabbed browsing and konqeror is fine. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 598] [XFree86-server] Radeon 7500 hardware acceleration not working
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 22:09 --- Does this lockup happen at a specific time? ie. on boot? Does it just sit with a blank screen or is there corruption? Does it lock up due to some user input like switching between virtual consoles and then back to X? --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: Hi guys, I have someone at mandrakeexpeert, paid incident, that has a problem with a Radeon 7500, the card does not work (locks up) if he uses hardware acceleration, switching of hardware acceleration with Option NoAccell will make the system work, I adviced him to get the latest packages from cooker since I saw there have been fixes for dri applied, but his problem still persists, however RedHat 8.0 will work just fine with hardware acceleration. Maybe you can check if there are more patches available or maybe remove some that don't work. The incident number is : 37844 So if you need more infos just stop by and ask.
[Cooker] Re: [guile] libguile version 9 wanted
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:01:27AM +0100, [Bug 667] wrote: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 11:01 --- Will people please stop being lazy and at least check for correct maintainers? Gnucash maintainer will know what to do with his package since is probably following its development, or even add support for new guile and contribute upstream. Guile maintainer will probably not revert back to old guile because of one program relying on oldies and possibly obsolete things. Why would he? Well now I don't feel so bad. Mandrake employees are just as rude to each other as they are to contributors... -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard enough. - Jim Nichols
[Cooker] [Bug 591] [galeon] galeon segfaulting _very_ frequently
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-18 22:30 --- It's not really reproductible... Anyway the problem seems to be in gtkmozembed, not in galeon The current backtrace I currently get with galeon-1.3.1-1mdk and mozilla-1.2.1-1mdk is quite similar to the one I submited to gnome bugzilla : #0 0x40023d22 in EmbedPrivate::GetPIDOMWindow () from /usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1/libgtkembedmoz.so #1 0x4002398b in EmbedPrivate::TopLevelFocusOut () from /usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1/libgtkembedmoz.so #2 0x4002269d in gtk_moz_embed_new () from /usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1/libgtkembedmoz.so #3 0x4051d008 in gtk_input_remove () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 I use a 56K dialup connection tonight so I'll update my cooker tomorrow and see if there is a change. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: The latest galeon is segfaulting for me on a very frequent basis. It seems to be related to opening new tabs/pages and happens about 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 times I try to open a new page or tab.
[Cooker] foobillard update (2.0 now available)
Current Cooker version is 1.8-1mdk Thx, R.Fox -- Robert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fox Consulting Services
Re: [Cooker] MS Fonts in a bag
Didn't last long: http://avi.alkalay.net/software/msfonts/download/ There's a new mirror to those, just check the link again. Oh, and i've made them available thru eDonkey network. If you care to get them, here are the links: ed2k://|file|msfonts.spec|3053|0d24fd8b645f38438d79cb13f966a2fa|/ ed2k://|file|msfonts-style-1.2-1.noarch.rpm|1515188|8080f03964b6a49674140dc5cc6a8f4d|/ ed2k://|file|msfonts-1.2.tar.gz|5999680|bded92b36ba13a9503ff42d0f7e619b2|/ ed2k://|file|msfonts-1.2-1.src.rpm|5997025|f85f2dd5b86af7685225523426f09a5b|/ ed2k://|file|msfonts-1.2-1.noarch.rpm|4476067|c9dcbbe78f4c82d3aa509f8b9df59ec1|/ bye. Damian
Re: [Cooker] %configure2_5x rpm macro
On 2002-12-12(Thu) 13:18:02 +0100, G?tz Waschk wrote:
I think the %configure2_5x macro should be fixed. ATM it expands to:
[goetz@klama SRPMS]$ rpm --eval %configure2_5x
CONFIGURE_TOP=${CONFIGURE_TOP:-.};
CFLAGS=${CFLAGS:--O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=i586 -mcpu=pentiumpro\} ;
export CFLAGS ;
CXXFLAGS=${CXXFLAGS:--O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=i586
-mcpu=pentiu\mpro} ; export CXXFLAGS ;
FFLAGS=${FFLAGS:--O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=i586 -mcpu=pentiumpro\} ;
export FFLAGS ;
(cd $CONFIGURE_TOP; [ -f configure.in ] libtoolize --copy --force) ;
[schnipp]
With autoconf 2.5 the autoconf file can be named configure.ac instead
of configure.in. So the libtoolize call should check also check for
configure.ac
Yup, though not many packages uses configure.ac solely, I think rpm
maintainer (flepied?) should consider adding this bit now.
Yet another problem:
[...snip...]
$CONFIGURE_TOP/configure --build %{_target_platform} --host
%{_target_platform} --target %{_target_platform} \\\
[...snip...]
Adding --host and --target will put autoconf 2.5x into cross compile
mode. The result is, some packages will contain funny named binaries
such as i586-mandrake-linux-foobar, and need to use ugly hacks to fix
it. It's good for all to turn --host and --target off. This has been
discussed in various places, I think.
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