Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[Curtis Delzer via Cookinginthedark]

anything you, and the employers insurance are comfortable with. I 
worked with Orange Julius for 3 weeks once, making the Juliuses, 
until their insurance figured I'd get hurt by "something," like, 
would you believe, an electric mixer? GAD!
was in the late sixties so I couldn't kick much about it, but 
everyone enjoyed my Juliuses. :)



At 02:10 AM 12/4/2015, you wrote:

Hi,

As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my 
limitations. I didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it 
comes to programming, and I frankly didn't care: programming was fun 
and I did it, and that was all that mattered.


However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you 
need to get training, and you need to know what you can do better 
than others, and what you're not so good at, and what you definitely 
cannot do, so that you can do what is called "targeted learning", 
where you slim down what you're going to learn to what you will 
absolutely need, and go for them.


My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant. 
Even if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about 
food, learning how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are 
blind restaurant owners and chefs and so on, and this email is for 
those people.


Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you 
help her decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are 
blind-friendly, to coin a term?


Best,
Parham
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Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[Mike and Jenna via Cookinginthedark]

Hi,

I woulk in the restaurant filed. I find that their really isn't much she can 
not do. I found the only thing for me was decorating cakes and stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark 
[mailto:cookinginthedark@acbradio.org] 
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 5:11 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Subject: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

Hi,

As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my limitations. I 
didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it comes to programming, and 
I frankly didn't care: programming was fun and I did it, and that was all that 
mattered.

However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you need to get 
training, and you need to know what you can do better than others, and what 
you're not so good at, and what you definitely cannot do, so that you can do 
what is called "targeted learning", where you slim down what you're going to 
learn to what you will absolutely need, and go for them.

My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant. 
Even if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about food, learning 
how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are blind restaurant owners and 
chefs and so on, and this email is for those people.

Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you help her 
decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are blind-friendly, to 
coin a term?

Best,
Parham
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Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[Gerry Leary via Cookinginthedark]

Hello, I am Gerry Leary. I own the unseen bean coffee shop. It has two 
locations. I roast all of the coffee for it. I can do most tasks in the coffee 
shops well, and a few tasks clumsily. The tasks that I do clumsily or ones that 
I don't do often and haven't learned well. I do come from a handy background, 
because I was car mechanic for 40  years. I have been blind since birth, and 
have no idea what vision is. The tasks that are difficult for me to do in a 
coffee shop or things like spreading things on bread smoothly picking up only 
one slice of Finley sliced meat. I do these things with food gloves on because 
a it is a requirement, and be it gives the people confidence in the cleanliness 
of our shops.

Sent from my iPhone this time

> On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:24 AM, Mike and Jenna via Cookinginthedark 
> <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I woulk in the restaurant filed. I find that their really isn't much she can 
> not do. I found the only thing for me was decorating cakes and stuff.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark 
> [mailto:cookinginthedark@acbradio.org]
> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 5:11 AM
> To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
> Subject: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?
>
> Hi,
>
> As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my limitations. I 
> didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it comes to programming, 
> and I frankly didn't care: programming was fun and I did it, and that was all 
> that mattered.
>
> However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you need to get 
> training, and you need to know what you can do better than others, and what 
> you're not so good at, and what you definitely cannot do, so that you can do 
> what is called "targeted learning", where you slim down what you're going to 
> learn to what you will absolutely need, and go for them.
>
> My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant.
> Even if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about food, 
> learning how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are blind restaurant 
> owners and chefs and so on, and this email is for those people.
>
> Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you help her 
> decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are blind-friendly, to 
> coin a term?
>
> Best,
> Parham
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> http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark I am using Siri to 
> dictate this, so it may be a little rough. Anyway the tasks that I find 
> difficult I don't do often, but they haven't gotten easier. As I work in the 
> industry and experiment yes somethings to get much easier. But things like 
> latte art I haven't done yet. Some of the tasks in a restaurant can be 
> easier, if you use equipment that blind people can control. Our use a cash 
> register program that works on an iPad and it works quite well with 
> voiceover. It also has a really good back office that you get to online that 
> can give you all of the reports. I do have a little difficulty working with 
> her talking scale, because there isn't a good one that can do what I needed 
> to do. So that task I leave for others most of the time. I do have a scale 
> that talks, but it is not trade legal so I can't custom way anything. Also I 
> may have a little trouble with presentation when I'm putting things on our 
> plate, because I don't necess
 arily know The way that it might look the best. So, other people and assist me 
with that. When our coffee shop is really really busy, I generally stay away 
from the backside of the counter. I can be more productive talking to people 
about how blind people roast coffee, what kind of adaptations we had to make in 
the equipment so that I could use it, and anything about the rest of the 
difficulties of being in the restaurant I would say, the most difficult part 
about being a blind business person is all of the paperwork necessary to carry 
it out. The accounting the taxes the invoicing the receiving the shipping and 
anything else that you might think of that song for you druther really needs a 
pair of eyes to make it an efficient process. Therefore a lot of that work I 
have to buy. So in some ways it cost me more as a blind person however, there 
are sighted people out there that just can't add 2+17-5 because it just isn't 
something that they like to do there are sighted people out there
  that don't even know what a screwdriver doe

Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark]

Hi Gerry,

Thanks for sharing your experience. It's great that you're doing all
these stuff; keep up the great work!

On 12/5/2015 5:43 PM, Gerry Leary via Cookinginthedark wrote:

Hello, I am Gerry Leary. I own the unseen bean coffee shop. It has two 
locations. I roast all of the coffee for it. I can do most tasks in the coffee 
shops well, and a few tasks clumsily. The tasks that I do clumsily or ones that 
I don't do often and haven't learned well. I do come from a handy background, 
because I was car mechanic for 40  years. I have been blind since birth, and 
have no idea what vision is. The tasks that are difficult for me to do in a 
coffee shop or things like spreading things on bread smoothly picking up only 
one slice of Finley sliced meat. I do these things with food gloves on because 
a it is a requirement, and be it gives the people confidence in the cleanliness 
of our shops.

Sent from my iPhone this time


On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:24 AM, Mike and Jenna via Cookinginthedark 
<cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

Hi,

I woulk in the restaurant filed. I find that their really isn't much she can 
not do. I found the only thing for me was decorating cakes and stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark 
[mailto:cookinginthedark@acbradio.org]
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 5:11 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Subject: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

Hi,

As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my limitations. I 
didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it comes to programming, and 
I frankly didn't care: programming was fun and I did it, and that was all that 
mattered.

However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you need to get training, 
and you need to know what you can do better than others, and what you're not so good at, 
and what you definitely cannot do, so that you can do what is called "targeted 
learning", where you slim down what you're going to learn to what you will 
absolutely need, and go for them.

My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant.
Even if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about food, learning 
how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are blind restaurant owners and 
chefs and so on, and this email is for those people.

Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you help her 
decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are blind-friendly, to 
coin a term?

Best,
Parham
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http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark I am using Siri to 
dictate this, so it may be a little rough. Anyway the tasks that I find 
difficult I don't do often, but they haven't gotten easier. As I work in the 
industry and experiment yes somethings to get much easier. But things like 
latte art I haven't done yet. Some of the tasks in a restaurant can be easier, 
if you use equipment that blind people can control. Our use a cash register 
program that works on an iPad and it works quite well with voiceover. It also 
has a really good back office that you get to online that can give you all of 
the reports. I do have a little difficulty working with her talking scale, 
because there isn't a good one that can do what I needed to do. So that task I 
leave for others most of the time. I do have a scale that talks, but it is not 
trade legal so I can't custom way anything. Also I may have a little trouble 
with presentation when I'm putting things on our plate, because I don't neces

s

  arily know The way that it might look the best. So, other people and assist 
me with that. When our coffee shop is really really busy, I generally stay away 
from the backside of the counter. I can be more productive talking to people 
about how blind people roast coffee, what kind of adaptations we had to make in 
the equipment so that I could use it, and anything about the rest of the 
difficulties of being in the restaurant I would say, the most difficult part 
about being a blind business person is all of the paperwork necessary to carry 
it out. The accounting the taxes the invoicing the receiving the shipping and 
anything else that you might think of that song for you druther really needs a 
pair of eyes to make it an efficient process. Therefore a lot of that work I 
have to buy. So in some ways it cost me more as a blind person however, there 
are sighted people out there that just can't add 2+17-5 because it just isn't 
something that they like to do there are sighted people out th

ere

   that don't even know what a screwdriver does. They just don't have it in 
them, or they don't have the interest. So we're not really any worse off 

Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[Becky McCullough via Cookinginthedark]

Do you sell gourmet coffee?
Becky
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From: "Gerry Leary via Cookinginthedark" <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org>

To: <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org>; "Mike and Jenna" <schwal...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?


Hello, I am Gerry Leary. I own the unseen bean coffee shop. It has two 
locations. I roast all of the coffee for it. I can do most tasks in the 
coffee shops well, and a few tasks clumsily. The tasks that I do clumsily or 
ones that I don't do often and haven't learned well. I do come from a handy 
background, because I was car mechanic for 40  years. I have been blind 
since birth, and have no idea what vision is. The tasks that are difficult 
for me to do in a coffee shop or things like spreading things on bread 
smoothly picking up only one slice of Finley sliced meat. I do these things 
with food gloves on because a it is a requirement, and be it gives the 
people confidence in the cleanliness of our shops.


Sent from my iPhone this time

On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:24 AM, Mike and Jenna via Cookinginthedark 
<cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:


Hi,

I woulk in the restaurant filed. I find that their really isn't much she 
can not do. I found the only thing for me was decorating cakes and stuff.


-Original Message-
From: Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark 
[mailto:cookinginthedark@acbradio.org]

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 5:11 AM
To: cookinginthedark@acbradio.org
Subject: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

Hi,

As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my limitations. 
I didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it comes to 
programming, and I frankly didn't care: programming was fun and I did it, 
and that was all that mattered.


However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you need to 
get training, and you need to know what you can do better than others, and 
what you're not so good at, and what you definitely cannot do, so that you 
can do what is called "targeted learning", where you slim down what you're 
going to learn to what you will absolutely need, and go for them.


My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant.
Even if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about food, 
learning how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are blind restaurant 
owners and chefs and so on, and this email is for those people.


Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you help 
her decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are 
blind-friendly, to coin a term?


Best,
Parham
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http://acbradio.org/mailman/listinfo/cookinginthedark I am using Siri to 
dictate this, so it may be a little rough. Anyway the tasks that I find 
difficult I don't do often, but they haven't gotten easier. As I work in 
the industry and experiment yes somethings to get much easier. But things 
like latte art I haven't done yet. Some of the tasks in a restaurant can 
be easier, if you use equipment that blind people can control. Our use a 
cash register program that works on an iPad and it works quite well with 
voiceover. It also has a really good back office that you get to online 
that can give you all of the reports. I do have a little difficulty 
working with her talking scale, because there isn't a good one that can do 
what I needed to do. So that task I leave for others most of the time. I 
do have a scale that talks, but it is not trade legal so I can't custom 
way anything. Also I may have a little trouble with presentation when I'm 
putting things on our plate, because I don't necess
arily know The way that it might look the best. So, other people and assist 
me with that. When our coffee shop is really really busy, I generally stay 
away from the backside of the counter. I can be more productive talking to 
people about how blind people roast coffee, what kind of adaptations we had 
to make in the equipment so that I could use it, and anything about the rest 
of the difficulties of being in the restaurant I would say, the most 
difficult part about being a blind business person is all of the paperwork 
necessary to carry it out. The accounting the taxes the invoicing the 
receiving the shipping and anything else that you might think of that song 
for you druther really needs a pair of eyes to make it an efficient process. 
Therefore a lot of that work I have to buy. So in some ways it cost me more 
as a blind person however, there are sighted people out there that just 
can't add 2+17-5 because it just isn't something that they like to do the

[CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark]

Hi,

As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my 
limitations. I didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it 
comes to programming, and I frankly didn't care: programming was fun and 
I did it, and that was all that mattered.


However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you need 
to get training, and you need to know what you can do better than 
others, and what you're not so good at, and what you definitely cannot 
do, so that you can do what is called "targeted learning", where you 
slim down what you're going to learn to what you will absolutely need, 
and go for them.


My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant. 
Even if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about food, 
learning how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are blind 
restaurant owners and chefs and so on, and this email is for those people.


Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you help 
her decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are 
blind-friendly, to coin a term?


Best,
Parham
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Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[John Diakogeorgiou via Cookinginthedark]

I want to start by disagreeing with you regarding how we need to
learn. I taught myself how to cook when I was  nine or ten years old.
I don't agree with you in that blind people need to be taught a bit at
a time.
Depending on the type of restaurant, their is lots your wife can do.
For example she can work on the line. Depending on her sight I am not
sure that running the grill would be the best idea. She can also do a
lot of the food prep.
Their is nothing stopping her from owning a restaurant. The only
reason I haven't done it is that I don't want to work that many hours.
She would need to find employees that she can really trust. That is
probably the hardest part of running this type of business. It is even
more important for a blind person since their are things we can't see
such as cleanliness, Whether people are stealing from us, and how well
staff are performing.
She may also want to consider joining the Randolf Shepard program in
your State if it is run well.

On 12/4/15, Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my
> limitations. I didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it
> comes to programming, and I frankly didn't care: programming was fun and
> I did it, and that was all that mattered.
>
> However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you need
> to get training, and you need to know what you can do better than
> others, and what you're not so good at, and what you definitely cannot
> do, so that you can do what is called "targeted learning", where you
> slim down what you're going to learn to what you will absolutely need,
> and go for them.
>
> My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant.
> Even if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about food,
> learning how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are blind
> restaurant owners and chefs and so on, and this email is for those people.
>
> Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you help
> her decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are
> blind-friendly, to coin a term?
>
> Best,
> Parham
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Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[Becky McCullough via Cookinginthedark]

Hi Parham,
I hope your wife will own her own business.
Becky
- Original Message - 
From: "Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark" <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org>

To: <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 4:10 AM
Subject: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?



Hi,

As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my limitations. 
I didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it comes to 
programming, and I frankly didn't care: programming was fun and I did it, 
and that was all that mattered.


However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you need to 
get training, and you need to know what you can do better than others, and 
what you're not so good at, and what you definitely cannot do, so that you 
can do what is called "targeted learning", where you slim down what you're 
going to learn to what you will absolutely need, and go for them.


My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant. Even 
if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about food, learning 
how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are blind restaurant owners 
and chefs and so on, and this email is for those people.


Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you help 
her decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are 
blind-friendly, to coin a term?


Best,
Parham
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Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[Becky McCullough via Cookinginthedark]

Hi John,
I think that the Randolph Shepherd program is a good idea.
I've never been in the program or owned a restaurant, but now that I am 
older, I do like to cook.

Becky
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From: "John Diakogeorgiou via Cookinginthedark" 
<cookinginthedark@acbradio.org>

To: <cookinginthedark@acbradio.org>; "Parham Doustdar" <parha...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?



I want to start by disagreeing with you regarding how we need to
learn. I taught myself how to cook when I was  nine or ten years old.
I don't agree with you in that blind people need to be taught a bit at
a time.
Depending on the type of restaurant, their is lots your wife can do.
For example she can work on the line. Depending on her sight I am not
sure that running the grill would be the best idea. She can also do a
lot of the food prep.
Their is nothing stopping her from owning a restaurant. The only
reason I haven't done it is that I don't want to work that many hours.
She would need to find employees that she can really trust. That is
probably the hardest part of running this type of business. It is even
more important for a blind person since their are things we can't see
such as cleanliness, Whether people are stealing from us, and how well
staff are performing.
She may also want to consider joining the Randolf Shepard program in
your State if it is run well.

On 12/4/15, Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark
<cookinginthedark@acbradio.org> wrote:

Hi,

As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my
limitations. I didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it
comes to programming, and I frankly didn't care: programming was fun and
I did it, and that was all that mattered.

However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you need
to get training, and you need to know what you can do better than
others, and what you're not so good at, and what you definitely cannot
do, so that you can do what is called "targeted learning", where you
slim down what you're going to learn to what you will absolutely need,
and go for them.

My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant.
Even if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about food,
learning how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are blind
restaurant owners and chefs and so on, and this email is for those 
people.


Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you help
her decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are
blind-friendly, to coin a term?

Best,
Parham
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Re: [CnD] Question: what can the blind do in a restaurant?

[Jael via Cookinginthedark]

She is the ony one that can answer that, not us. Does she have
experience in cooking? Does she prefer to start from the very bottom
and be a dish washer until she learns the ins and outs? There are
blind chefs and blind bartenders. There are at least one bar owner and
one head master chef in the US, so that goes to show that a blind
person can do whatever they want.

NPR Food did a feature not too long ago about the blind cooking and
mentioned a blind woman that is head chef and owns her own restaurant.
I suggest looking up that article and finding that woman to see if
it's possible to talk to her.

Personally, I wouldn't really throw being blind around. It tends to
intimidate people. If one wants to be taken seriously aming the
sighted community, one has to make themselves as appealing as
possible, learning everything one can.

Just my two cents.

On 12/4/15, John Diakogeorgiou via Cookinginthedark
 wrote:
> I want to start by disagreeing with you regarding how we need to
> learn. I taught myself how to cook when I was  nine or ten years old.
> I don't agree with you in that blind people need to be taught a bit at
> a time.
> Depending on the type of restaurant, their is lots your wife can do.
> For example she can work on the line. Depending on her sight I am not
> sure that running the grill would be the best idea. She can also do a
> lot of the food prep.
> Their is nothing stopping her from owning a restaurant. The only
> reason I haven't done it is that I don't want to work that many hours.
> She would need to find employees that she can really trust. That is
> probably the hardest part of running this type of business. It is even
> more important for a blind person since their are things we can't see
> such as cleanliness, Whether people are stealing from us, and how well
> staff are performing.
> She may also want to consider joining the Randolf Shepard program in
> your State if it is run well.
>
> On 12/4/15, Parham Doustdar via Cookinginthedark
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As a programmer, I started programming before I even knew my
>> limitations. I didn't know what the blind can and cannot do when it
>> comes to programming, and I frankly didn't care: programming was fun and
>> I did it, and that was all that mattered.
>>
>> However, when it comes to food-related stuff, for most stuff, you need
>> to get training, and you need to know what you can do better than
>> others, and what you're not so good at, and what you definitely cannot
>> do, so that you can do what is called "targeted learning", where you
>> slim down what you're going to learn to what you will absolutely need,
>> and go for them.
>>
>> My spouse who is completely blind likes to one day own a restaurant.
>> Even if she doesn't achieve this goal, she enjoys reading about food,
>> learning how to cook, and so on. I've read that there are blind
>> restaurant owners and chefs and so on, and this email is for those
>> people.
>>
>> Since you guys are much more experienced at this than I am, can you help
>> her decide what to learn? What positions in a restaurant are
>> blind-friendly, to coin a term?
>>
>> Best,
>> Parham
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