Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[James Hebden]

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 03:58:32PM -0500, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> I can't seem to find more than one low res fosdem photo, do you have any
> links?
> https://syslog-ng.com/blog/centos-dojo-fosdem-2018/
> Damn those massive heatsinks are sexy!

There is a higher res version of this image available with a little bit
of URI hacking :)
https://syslog-ng.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/pic_power.jpg

> Raptor really needs to promote Talos 2 more - compared to their faux-free
> hardware competitor who shalt not be named they have hardly any media
> presence D:
> 
> https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Talos_II
> Heres a nice board photo with a block diagram.
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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[taii...@gmx.com]

I can't seem to find more than one low res fosdem photo, do you have any 
links?

https://syslog-ng.com/blog/centos-dojo-fosdem-2018/
Damn those massive heatsinks are sexy!

Raptor really needs to promote Talos 2 more - compared to their 
faux-free hardware competitor who shalt not be named they have hardly 
any media presence D:


https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Talos_II
Heres a nice board photo with a block diagram.

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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[Elisenda Cuadros]

Thank you for your reply.

I would really like to be able to buy a Talos 2 system, I've been 
following the development news for months and it's really impressive 
what Raptor is doing


Last photos in Fosdem were stunning!.

Like you, I think the price is very reasonable given the kind of system 
it is.


For now it is out of my budget but I hope this could change in the 
future. I wish Raptor all the success.


I don´t plan to use KGPE-D16 for gaming but more like a general-purpose 
workstation.


Now I have a 6238 and I think I will buy a 6282 for the second socket.

Thank you very much for your offering and your support Taiidan.

Regards,

- Eli


On 22/02/2018 2:05, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
I concur with Tim, if you do not need to run x86_64 only applications 
then the brand new Libre Firmware/Owner Controlled TALOS 2 is a much 
better deal and will provide significantly higher mileage than this 
older opteron platform.


I don't know how raptor did it, but it costs less and has more better 
features than the equivilant in performance never owner controlled 
x86_64 new AMD/Intel options.


Libre Firmware Talos 2:
Board and the base 4 core cpu - $2,500

Much slower libre firmware opteron:
$415 for KGPE-D16 + approx $500 for dual 6386SE CPU's = $1,000

An extra $1,500 is worth it for a motherboard that has a future, and 
to help ensure the future of owner controlled hardware.


https://raptorcs.com

Notes:
Raptor also made the libre firmware for the KGPE-D16 and KCMA-D8 
boards, and a variety of other coreboot motherboards - so they have a 
proven track record.
If the T2 isn't successful it will be the end of high performance 
owner controlled hardware, which is why I urge everyone with the means 
to purchase one instead of a non-free x86_64 system - it is worth it 
both for the performance (PCI-e 4.0, SMT4, IBM's great OpenBMC etc) 
and for the freedom (FSF RYF cert pending!)


On 02/20/2018 02:12 PM, Elisenda Cuadros wrote:


Hello,

Is it really worth 63xx series instead 62xx?
*only if you are gaming* not simply just using some random x86_64 only 
apps like the autodesk stuff etc


generally for the best G34 CPU's price is about the same -  6386SE 
will be similarly price as 6287SE - and both have nearly the same 
performance.


They are _much more_ expensive. 

Which ones are you looking at?


Is there any public benchmark?

cpubenchmark.net

If you want to game in a VM (via IOMMU-GFX) on a KGPE-D16/KCMA-D8 let 
me know, I am happy to assist with that (and all things libre 
hardware/firmware).


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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[taii...@gmx.com]

I concur with Tim, if you do not need to run x86_64 only applications 
then the brand new Libre Firmware/Owner Controlled TALOS 2 is a much 
better deal and will provide significantly higher mileage than this 
older opteron platform.


I don't know how raptor did it, but it costs less and has more better 
features than the equivilant in performance never owner controlled 
x86_64 new AMD/Intel options.


Libre Firmware Talos 2:
Board and the base 4 core cpu - $2,500

Much slower libre firmware opteron:
$415 for KGPE-D16 + approx $500 for dual 6386SE CPU's = $1,000

An extra $1,500 is worth it for a motherboard that has a future, and to 
help ensure the future of owner controlled hardware.


https://raptorcs.com

Notes:
Raptor also made the libre firmware for the KGPE-D16 and KCMA-D8 boards, 
and a variety of other coreboot motherboards - so they have a proven 
track record.
If the T2 isn't successful it will be the end of high performance owner 
controlled hardware, which is why I urge everyone with the means to 
purchase one instead of a non-free x86_64 system - it is worth it both 
for the performance (PCI-e 4.0, SMT4, IBM's great OpenBMC etc) and for 
the freedom (FSF RYF cert pending!)


On 02/20/2018 02:12 PM, Elisenda Cuadros wrote:


Hello,

Is it really worth 63xx series instead 62xx?
*only if you are gaming* not simply just using some random x86_64 only 
apps like the autodesk stuff etc


generally for the best G34 CPU's price is about the same -  6386SE will 
be similarly price as 6287SE - and both have nearly the same performance.


They are _much more_ expensive. 

Which ones are you looking at?


Is there any public benchmark?

cpubenchmark.net

If you want to game in a VM (via IOMMU-GFX) on a KGPE-D16/KCMA-D8 let me 
know, I am happy to assist with that (and all things libre 
hardware/firmware).


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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[Elisenda Cuadros]

You explained it so well, thank you!


On 20/02/18 20:29, Timothy Pearson wrote:

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There's a modest single digit performance boost at isoclock, but the
63xx series also has the fastest core you will see in the
owner-controlled x86 world (3.8GHz).  The 62xx tops out at 3.6GHz.

Both are 32nm and completely obsolete by modern standards.  The POWER9
chip for instance will run circles around either one of these, so I'd
say rather than looking for maximum absolute performance at high cost,
go for the 62xx series.  It'll still last you a long time for moderate
computing needs.

On 02/20/2018 01:12 PM, Elisenda Cuadros wrote:

Hello,

Is it really worth 63xx series instead 62xx?

They are _much more_ expensive.

Is there any public benchmark?

Regards,

- Eli


On 20/02/18 10:46, taii...@gmx.com wrote:

On 02/20/2018 01:29 AM, 戴，曉政 via coreboot wrote:


Dear Taiidan,

I have get KGPE-D16 motherboard from auction website but I find that
AMD 6328 CPU is too expensive ($499 USD).  As well as 6386SE CPU is
more expensive than 6328 CPU so please give me a favor. Please list
some cheaper AMD CPUs name that can be built successfully  when I use
KGPE-D16 motherboard to install coreboot.

Right now on ebay I also see a 6328 for $130 and a 6386SE for
$225/best offer (the last and best owner controlled x86-64 CPU, get
one while you can IMO).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Opteron-OS6386YETGGHK-16-Core-2-8GHz-16MB-6-4GT-s-Server-CPU/222837140766

This one is in good condition (note the straight as an arrow
capacitors on the bottom with none missing)

FYI don't buy a CPU that has missing bottom capacitors or scratches on
the pads, always ask a seller for a photo of the bottom if you buy a
G34 CPU like the 6386SE.

   I know my English is very poor,

Naah it is fine :]





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Raptor Engineering
+1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line)
+1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard)
https://www.raptorengineering.com
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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[Timothy Pearson]

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There's a modest single digit performance boost at isoclock, but the
63xx series also has the fastest core you will see in the
owner-controlled x86 world (3.8GHz).  The 62xx tops out at 3.6GHz.

Both are 32nm and completely obsolete by modern standards.  The POWER9
chip for instance will run circles around either one of these, so I'd
say rather than looking for maximum absolute performance at high cost,
go for the 62xx series.  It'll still last you a long time for moderate
computing needs.

On 02/20/2018 01:12 PM, Elisenda Cuadros wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Is it really worth 63xx series instead 62xx?
> 
> They are _much more_ expensive.
> 
> Is there any public benchmark?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Eli
> 
> 
> On 20/02/18 10:46, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>> On 02/20/2018 01:29 AM, 戴，曉政 via coreboot wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Taiidan,
>>>
>>> I have get KGPE-D16 motherboard from auction website but I find that
>>> AMD 6328 CPU is too expensive ($499 USD).  As well as 6386SE CPU is
>>> more expensive than 6328 CPU so please give me a favor. Please list
>>> some cheaper AMD CPUs name that can be built successfully  when I use
>>> KGPE-D16 motherboard to install coreboot.
>> Right now on ebay I also see a 6328 for $130 and a 6386SE for
>> $225/best offer (the last and best owner controlled x86-64 CPU, get
>> one while you can IMO).
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Opteron-OS6386YETGGHK-16-Core-2-8GHz-16MB-6-4GT-s-Server-CPU/222837140766
>>
>> This one is in good condition (note the straight as an arrow
>> capacitors on the bottom with none missing)
>>
>> FYI don't buy a CPU that has missing bottom capacitors or scratches on
>> the pads, always ask a seller for a photo of the bottom if you buy a
>> G34 CPU like the 6386SE.
>>>   I know my English is very poor,
>> Naah it is fine :]
>>
> 
> 


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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[Elisenda Cuadros]

Hello,

Is it really worth 63xx series instead 62xx?

They are _much more_ expensive.

Is there any public benchmark?

Regards,

- Eli


On 20/02/18 10:46, taii...@gmx.com wrote:

On 02/20/2018 01:29 AM, 戴，曉政 via coreboot wrote:


Dear Taiidan,

I have get KGPE-D16 motherboard from auction website but I find that 
AMD 6328 CPU is too expensive ($499 USD).  As well as 6386SE CPU is 
more expensive than 6328 CPU so please give me a favor. Please list 
some cheaper AMD CPUs name that can be built successfully  when I use 
KGPE-D16 motherboard to install coreboot.
Right now on ebay I also see a 6328 for $130 and a 6386SE for 
$225/best offer (the last and best owner controlled x86-64 CPU, get 
one while you can IMO).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Opteron-OS6386YETGGHK-16-Core-2-8GHz-16MB-6-4GT-s-Server-CPU/222837140766 

This one is in good condition (note the straight as an arrow 
capacitors on the bottom with none missing)


FYI don't buy a CPU that has missing bottom capacitors or scratches on 
the pads, always ask a seller for a photo of the bottom if you buy a 
G34 CPU like the 6386SE.

  I know my English is very poor,

Naah it is fine :]




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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[taii...@gmx.com]

On 02/20/2018 01:29 AM, 戴，曉政 via coreboot wrote:


Dear Taiidan,

I have get KGPE-D16 motherboard from auction website but I find that AMD 6328 
CPU is too expensive ($499 USD).  As well as 6386SE CPU is more expensive than 
6328 CPU so please give me a favor. Please list some cheaper AMD CPUs name that 
can be built successfully  when I use KGPE-D16 motherboard to install coreboot.
Right now on ebay I also see a 6328 for $130 and a 6386SE for $225/best 
offer (the last and best owner controlled x86-64 CPU, get one while you 
can IMO).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Opteron-OS6386YETGGHK-16-Core-2-8GHz-16MB-6-4GT-s-Server-CPU/222837140766 

This one is in good condition (note the straight as an arrow capacitors 
on the bottom with none missing)


FYI don't buy a CPU that has missing bottom capacitors or scratches on 
the pads, always ask a seller for a photo of the bottom if you buy a G34 
CPU like the 6386SE.

  I know my English is very poor,

Naah it is fine :]

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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[戴，曉政 via coreboot]

Dear Taiidan,

I have get KGPE-D16 motherboard from auction website but I find that AMD 6328 
CPU is too expensive ($499 USD).  As well as 6386SE CPU is more expensive than 
6328 CPU so please give me a favor. Please list some cheaper AMD CPUs name that 
can be built successfully  when I use KGPE-D16 motherboard to install coreboot. 
I know my English is very poor, You can ask me more detail if you can not 
understand this mail fully.


> I will purchase USB CH341A along of purchase KGP-D16, thank for your 
> suggestion
>Feel free to ask any questions you have :D
>I suggest that you purchase a 6386SE (16 cores, good for compiling) or
>6328 (8 cores, better for games) CPU
>
>6328 average $80-120 USD
>6386SE average $150-250 USD



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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[taii...@gmx.com]

On 01/25/2018 05:42 AM, eche...@free.fr wrote:


Hello Taiidan,
I have 2 questions:
  -1) why is 6328 better for games? (compared to 6386SE?)
Faster clock speeds rather than an extra 8 un-used cores, there are very 
few games that can use more than 8 cores fewer still that would 
cooperate with the 16 core opteron NUMA arrangement that divides your 
RAM (the 16 core optys are two 8 core CPU's on a single die)


You can also use isolcpus=2,3,4,5 to get Turbo 2 in case your games only 
use 4 cores.


6328 is equivilant to an FX-8310

  -2) where can I buy 6386SE for less than 250 USD? Is this price for preowned 
units?
Yeah it is, there isn't any reason to buy a new CPU as they last 20 
years versus the much shorter lifespan for motherboard components such 
as capacitors.

  I have been hunting for these items on ebay for 2 months or more, but I see 
only offers @ 400USD and more!..

6328:
There are a few for $100/ea right now

6386SE:
There were some working scratch and dent (how?!?!) for $170/ea a few 
weeks ago, $120/ea a month ago for one that had missing capacitors that 
made it only work in a single CPU configuration.


As always don't be afraid to use best offer and if nothing suits you 
just wait a week or so one will probably show up then.


Btw if you don't have all the D8/D16 boards you want I would buy them 
new while you still can, they are going to stop selling/making them soon 
if they haven't already.



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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[戴，曉政 via coreboot]

Dear Taiidan,

Thank for your suggestion, I will search 6328 and 6386E CPU on a auction 
website. I have paid money tor seller of auction website today, I think I can 
get KGPE-D16 in the near future.

>Feel free to ask any questions you have :D
>I suggest that you purchase a 6386SE (16 cores, good for compiling) or
>6328 (8 cores, better for games) CPU
>
>6328 average $80-120 USD
>6386SE average $150-250 USD




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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[taii...@gmx.com]

On 01/24/2018 07:46 AM, 戴，曉政 via coreboot wrote:


Dear Taiidan & Ron,

I will purchase USB CH341A along of purchase KGP-D16, thank for your suggestion

Feel free to ask any questions you have :D
I suggest that you purchase a 6386SE (16 cores, good for compiling) or 
6328 (8 cores, better for games) CPU


6328 average $80-120 USD
6386SE average $150-250 USD

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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[戴，曉政 via coreboot]

Dear Taiidan & Ron,

I will purchase USB CH341A along of purchase KGP-D16, thank for your suggestion

> I would suggest purchasing a USB CH341A programmer, I use it for my
> KGPE-D16 and it is great.
>
>
>me too.



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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor(Cloud Dai)

[ron minnich]

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:57 AM taii...@gmx.com  wrote:

> I would suggest purchasing a USB CH341A programmer, I use it for my
> KGPE-D16 and it is great.
>
>
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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor(Cloud Dai)

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I would suggest purchasing a USB CH341A programmer, I use it for my 
KGPE-D16 and it is great.


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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor(Cloud Dai)

[Merlin Büge]

On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:02:02 +0800
戴，曉政 via coreboot  wrote:

> Dear Taiidan,
> 
> I just want to install and simply compile correboot at the current
> stage because I am a junior develop of coreboot. I will buy a ASUS
> KGPE-D16 mainboard from auction website after I restore my
> development environment. Thank you for your response. I have two
> question finally.
> 1. Does BIOS rom of KGPE-D16 be removable?

The BIOS (SPI) flash chip on the KGPE-D16 is socketed, so yes it is
removable. If you plan to swap it, I highly recommend a dedicated
DIP extractor for it! Something like this:

https://lut.im/K9hQJgJbKk/gR8wUUwDwd7pjBMu.JPG


> 2. Does  architecture of KGPE-D16 be pre-PSP or not?

Yes, it is pre-PSP.


Good luck!


> 
> 
> 
> > Dear Taiidan,
> >
> > I have read letter from Kyosti, he said ?AGESA family15 boards and
> > chipset vendorcode for older than Trinity has been/will be removed
> > on 4.7 release?. In this case, whether I still can >use H8SCM for
> > my first coreboot mainboard or not?
> >If you want to port coreboot it is a good board, to have as a
> >functional device no.
> >   And I will try to port KGPE-D16 after I complete porting of H8SCM
> > with coreboot. In addition, I apologize again for my poor English.
> >Porting is creating the code base for a motherboard.
> >Installing coreboot is simply compiling and installing, I am not
> >sure which you want? The H8SCM needs a port whereas the KGPE-D16 is
> >fully functional and a great example of coreboot ports.
> 
> 
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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor(Cloud Dai)

[戴，曉政 via coreboot]

Dear Taiidan,

I just want to install and simply compile correboot at the current stage 
because I am a junior develop of coreboot. I will buy a ASUS KGPE-D16 mainboard 
from auction website after I restore my development environment. Thank you for 
your response. I have two question finally.
1. Does BIOS rom of KGPE-D16 be removable?
2. Does  architecture of KGPE-D16 be pre-PSP or not?



> Dear Taiidan,
>
> I have read letter from Kyosti, he said ?AGESA family15 boards and chipset 
> vendorcode for older than Trinity has been/will be removed on 4.7 release?. 
> In this case, whether I still can >use H8SCM for my first coreboot mainboard 
> or not?
>If you want to port coreboot it is a good board, to have as a functional
>device no.
>   And I will try to port KGPE-D16 after I complete porting of H8SCM with 
> coreboot. In addition, I apologize again for my poor English.
>Porting is creating the code base for a motherboard.
>Installing coreboot is simply compiling and installing, I am not sure
>which you want? The H8SCM needs a port whereas the KGPE-D16 is fully
>functional and a great example of coreboot ports.



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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[ron minnich]

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:22 AM taii...@gmx.com  wrote:

>
> Can you explain why this is a bad thing?
> And in terms of quality you mean when it comes to the port?, the
> facebook OpenBMC? or the IBM OpenBMC? (what is the difference anyway?
> why did facebook make their own?)
>
>

The main complaint that has been put to me by several vendors is the 1 GiB
footprint on the OpenBMC they've looked at. They'd like to see if a smaller
memory footprint system if possible. Also, since in at least one case they
are using NERF on the main x86 CPU, they'd like to have NERF on both the
main CPU and the BMC. It simplifies their life immensely to have a common
code base on both CPUs, and NERF makes that easy: I've tested NERF on small
ARM systems and it works fine, and it hardly needs 1 GiB to function.

ron
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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[taii...@gmx.com]

On 01/20/2018 02:09 PM, ron minnich wrote:


On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:07 AM taii...@gmx.com  wrote:



Have you tried the D8/D16 OpenBMC port yet?


I'll take a look. I suspect I am going to do a u-root based openbmc release
for contrast. The openbmc work I've seen to date does not impress. I don't
think using C++ and Boost was a good decision.

ron


Can you explain why this is a bad thing?
And in terms of quality you mean when it comes to the port?, the 
facebook OpenBMC? or the IBM OpenBMC? (what is the difference anyway? 
why did facebook make their own?)


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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

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On 01/20/2018 01:34 PM, ron minnich wrote:


But ... if you've never installed coreboot before, you really want to start
with a supported, known working board so you understand all the moving
parts, at least that's my belief.
Yeah mine too but he didn't ask for a rec for that, I do agree that 
physical hardware will always be better than qemu.
If cloud-dai wants a working board to start and has the cash I would 
recommend the KGPE-D16 as it is the ultimate coreboot board with the 
most features, and it is fast enough to be useful for other stuff like a 
gaming pc or sane gentoo compile times, otherwise yeah the pcengines 
APU1 is a good more affordable choice.


Have you tried the D8/D16 OpenBMC port yet?

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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[ron minnich]

But ... if you've never installed coreboot before, you really want to start
with a supported, known working board so you understand all the moving
parts, at least that's my belief.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:24 AM taii...@gmx.com  wrote:

> On 01/20/2018 12:44 PM, Kyösti Mälkki wrote:
>
> > There is no record of anyone having booted H8SCM with coreboot since
> > 2012. In contrary, I think it was reported that even serial console
> > from coreboot did not work. Definetely _not_ a good candidate to start
> > with coreboot.
> >
> > Per previous discussions, AGESA family15 boards and chipset vendorcode
> > for older than Trinity has been/will be removed on 4.7 release.
> >
> > Kyösti
> >
> I know this, he said he wanted to port a board to coreboot and I thought
> that was a good candidate (to port to native init)
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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

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On 01/20/2018 12:44 PM, Kyösti Mälkki wrote:


There is no record of anyone having booted H8SCM with coreboot since
2012. In contrary, I think it was reported that even serial console
from coreboot did not work. Definetely _not_ a good candidate to start
with coreboot.

Per previous discussions, AGESA family15 boards and chipset vendorcode
for older than Trinity has been/will be removed on 4.7 release.

Kyösti

I know this, he said he wanted to port a board to coreboot and I thought 
that was a good candidate (to port to native init)


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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[ron minnich]

If you're just wanting to get a start on coreboot, with boards that are
currently sold, I personally like the PC Engines boards.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:45 AM Kyösti Mälkki 
wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:04 PM, taii...@gmx.com  wrote:
> > On 01/19/2018 10:04 AM, 戴，曉政 via coreboot wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Taiidan,
> >>
> >> According to your previous letter, does H8SCM be a pre-PSP AMD
> mainboard?
> >> If yes, I will buy one as soon as possible.
> >> Thank for your response.
> >
> > Yes it is pre-PSP, only $30.
> >
> > The H8SCM-F has the (closed source) BMC, but removing the ROM chips
> > de-activates it, whereas the H8SCM doesn't have the BMC.
> >
>
> There is no record of anyone having booted H8SCM with coreboot since
> 2012. In contrary, I think it was reported that even serial console
> from coreboot did not work. Definetely _not_ a good candidate to start
> with coreboot.
>
> Per previous discussions, AGESA family15 boards and chipset vendorcode
> for older than Trinity has been/will be removed on 4.7 release.
>
> Kyösti
>
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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[Kyösti Mälkki]

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:04 PM, taii...@gmx.com  wrote:
> On 01/19/2018 10:04 AM, 戴，曉政 via coreboot wrote:
>
>> Dear Taiidan,
>>
>> According to your previous letter, does H8SCM be a pre-PSP AMD mainboard?
>> If yes, I will buy one as soon as possible.
>> Thank for your response.
>
> Yes it is pre-PSP, only $30.
>
> The H8SCM-F has the (closed source) BMC, but removing the ROM chips
> de-activates it, whereas the H8SCM doesn't have the BMC.
>

There is no record of anyone having booted H8SCM with coreboot since
2012. In contrary, I think it was reported that even serial console
from coreboot did not work. Definetely _not_ a good candidate to start
with coreboot.

Per previous discussions, AGESA family15 boards and chipset vendorcode
for older than Trinity has been/will be removed on 4.7 release.

Kyösti

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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[戴，曉政 via coreboot]

Dear Taiidan,

I think I don’t need BMC on my mainboard now because I just a junior develop in 
coreboot, I already find H8SCM in auction site and I will buy it as soon as 
possible. I will continuous ask question if I encounter problem about porting 
this mainboard with tiano core. Thanks for you endure my poor English.

> Dear Taiidan,
>
> According to your previous letter, does H8SCM be a pre-PSP AMD mainboard? If 
> yes, I will buy one as soon as possible.
> Thank for your response.
>Yes it is pre-PSP, only $30.

>The H8SCM-F has the (closed source) BMC, but removing the ROM chips
>de-activates it, whereas the H8SCM doesn't have the BMC.








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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

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On 01/19/2018 10:04 AM, 戴，曉政 via coreboot wrote:


Dear Taiidan,

According to your previous letter, does H8SCM be a pre-PSP AMD mainboard? If 
yes, I will buy one as soon as possible.
Thank for your response.

Yes it is pre-PSP, only $30.

The H8SCM-F has the (closed source) BMC, but removing the ROM chips 
de-activates it, whereas the H8SCM doesn't have the BMC.


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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[戴，曉政 via coreboot]

Dear Taiidan,

According to your previous letter, does H8SCM be a pre-PSP AMD mainboard? If 
yes, I will buy one as soon as possible.
Thank for your response.

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   4. Re: Server systems shipped with coreboot (Nico Huber)
   5. Re: x86 validation suite (Igor Skochinsky)
   6. Re: Server systems shipped with coreboot (awokd)
   7. Re: x86 validation suite (Zoran Stojsavljevic)
   8. Re: I want to be a contributor (taii...@gmx.com)
   9. FOSDEM 2018 beverage round? (Daniel Kulesz)


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Dear All,

I hope I can be a contributor in coreboot so I plan buy a mainboard and use 
tiano core to port it. Maybe ASUS P2B is a good idea but I have some question.
1. EC code doesn?t be included in coreboot, how can I include EC code into my 
coreboot bin file? Use ME?
2. How can I get EC bin file from OEM bios and how can I get  VBIOS from OEM 
bios?
3. I have ME9, ME10 and ME11 firmware now, which ME I must use to integrate my 
coreboot rom and EC
4. How can I use SF-100 to flash bios into mainboard, welding jumper?
5. Most coreboot projects don?t use tiano core to port them, but I am a OEM 
BIOS engineer and I already use tiano architecture 7 years, so I hope I can use 
tiano core to be payload, does everyone know which coreboot project does use 
tiano core to be payload?

P.S. Please forgive my poor English, thank!!


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Hello Felix, and all,

> Le 18 janv. 2018 ? 04:17, Felix Held  a ?crit :
>
> Hi Carl-Daniel!
>
>> At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping
>> servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately
>> neither remember the server model nor who told me about this.
> This might be related: 
> https://www.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/hwenablement_open_source_bios_at_scale/
>  
> 

Well no, I don?t think it could be, or the person was not well informed.

We are not a vendor, but a hosting/cloud company, so we rent servers or service 
running on them, we do not ship them.
Also none of those servers with coreboot were available yet during 34C3.

Anyway, you are welcome to come to my talk at FOSDEM for more details ;-)

Best Regards,

Julien


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> Felix
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Anybody out there know of an x86 emulation validation suite?

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Re: [coreboot] I want to be a contributor (Cloud Dai)

[戴，曉政 via coreboot]

Dear Taiidan,

According to your previous letter, does H8SCM be a pre-PSP AMD mainboard? If 
yes, I will buy one as soon as possible.
Thank for your response.

寄件者: coreboot-requ...@coreboot.org
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   3. x86 validation suite (ron minnich)
   4. Re: Server systems shipped with coreboot (Nico Huber)
   5. Re: x86 validation suite (Igor Skochinsky)
   6. Re: Server systems shipped with coreboot (awokd)
   7. Re: x86 validation suite (Zoran Stojsavljevic)
   8. Re: I want to be a contributor (taii...@gmx.com)
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Dear All,

I hope I can be a contributor in coreboot so I plan buy a mainboard and use 
tiano core to port it. Maybe ASUS P2B is a good idea but I have some question.
1. EC code doesn?t be included in coreboot, how can I include EC code into my 
coreboot bin file? Use ME?
2. How can I get EC bin file from OEM bios and how can I get  VBIOS from OEM 
bios?
3. I have ME9, ME10 and ME11 firmware now, which ME I must use to integrate my 
coreboot rom and EC
4. How can I use SF-100 to flash bios into mainboard, welding jumper?
5. Most coreboot projects don?t use tiano core to port them, but I am a OEM 
BIOS engineer and I already use tiano architecture 7 years, so I hope I can use 
tiano core to be payload, does everyone know which coreboot project does use 
tiano core to be payload?

P.S. Please forgive my poor English, thank!!


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Hello Felix, and all,

> Le 18 janv. 2018 ? 04:17, Felix Held  a ?crit :
>
> Hi Carl-Daniel!
>
>> At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping
>> servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately
>> neither remember the server model nor who told me about this.
> This might be related: 
> https://www.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/hwenablement_open_source_bios_at_scale/
>  
> 

Well no, I don?t think it could be, or the person was not well informed.

We are not a vendor, but a hosting/cloud company, so we rent servers or service 
running on them, we do not ship them.
Also none of those servers with coreboot were available yet during 34C3.

Anyway, you are welcome to come to my talk at FOSDEM for more details ;-)

Best Regards,

Julien


>
> Regards
> Felix
>
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Anybody out there know of an x86 emulation validation suite?

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