[CoTyroneMailingList] REID & STINSON OF DUNAGANNON IRELAND

[Dave Mitchell]

 

Good morning, guys.

 

This list proves yet again that co. Tyrone families are a veritable global 
diaspora, round the globe and round the clock !

 

Boyd, your sleuthing is simply great. Wow! Lots of tips for all of us, 
especially in combining what’s available from various sources and repositories. 
 Jim, thanks for your encouragement (and for running our list).

 

Ray, you asked how to find the actual IMAGE.  In many instances on 
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie   (but not all), when you find a record listing 
you will see a link to "image" at the bottom of the white block (it’s in the 
middle of the page, for Births, just below the line for “Mother's Birth Surname”

 

This is what takes you to the actual .pdf.Only some entries include images, 
so you've got to be lucky.  Sometimes you’ve got to look through 2 or more 
pages to find the entry.

 

Then (if you’re adventurous and “on the prowl”) you can do more, and “sleuth 
the system” ….Once you're at the actual image, you can browse surrounding 
pages in the original register (e.g. for the same Registry Office) by craftily 
changing the .pdf image page number +1 or -1, in your browser page heading.  I 
have learnt of other folks from the same or other townlands nearby just by 
sniffing around in this way.  It's perhaps the closest one can get - 
electronically - to feeling and savouring the original pages in a leather-bound 
volume!

 

All the best for 2018.

 


Dave

 

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From: "Ray 15"  >
To: "Dave Mitchell"  >
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 05:26:01 AM
Subject: Re: Irish Index results and seeing the pdf of the actual related entry 
please sir!

Hi Dave.

 

Long time with no chat.  Great to see you still helping people on the lists. 

 

Can still remember when I FIRST joined CTI and/or Donegaleire, and you were 
living over there then; how you would so kindly check out stuff for people 
during your daily work travels around the countryside. 

 

Anyway, this note is because I am seeking your assistance with a few things. 

 

And I should start by saying that about 10 or more years ago I was hit with 
depression, which wrecked my mind and my memory as well as a lot of other 
things — but note though that I can still remember your kindliness to others as 
noted above; so maybe it is only my short-term memory which is kaput!  ha ha. 

 

I saw your note to Bob about STEENSON etc., with the URL for irishgenealogy.ie 
for civil BDMs.

 

AND I saw your other link to him, showing a pdf of the actual entry itself. 

 

 

BUT I cannot see how I can go FROM an irishgenealogy.ie RESULT —

 TO the pdf image.

 

 

My apologies for hitting you with this probably very elementary to you, 
request. 

Grateful for any light which you can shed on it for me please Bob.

 

Thanks in advance.

And wishing you a Happy New Year for 2018 — seeing that we are still within the 
first month of the year.  haha.

 

Kind Regards.

Ray in Oz.

 

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] REID & STINSON OF DUNAGANNON IRELAND

[Jim McKane]

WOW, again, Boyd!!  We'll have to double your salary!

Thanks again for assisting our Listers.

Jim

Jim McKane
South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Boyd Gray  wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> Dave is right, most of this is online and easily accessible.   And I
> assume he is working on the principle, give a man a fish and he eats for
> one day, give him a fishing rod and he eats forever.
>
> However, I can never resist an opportunity to show off, so..
>
> These are all children born to Alexander Reid and Ann Steenson/Stinson,
> all on RootsIreland:
>
> Action Source Surname First Name Year County
> View Civil Birth Reid Mary 1882 Co. Tyrone
> View Civil Birth Reid Catherine 1884 Co. Tyrone
> View Civil Birth Reid Elizabeth Anne 1886 Co. Tyrone
> View Civil Birth Reid Sarah Jane 1888 Co. Tyrone
>
> No Thomas at either IrishGenealogy or RootsIreland, nor indeed at GRONI,
> the official Northern Ireland website.
>
> This is their marriage, which will push you back a further generation
> because it gives the names of both fathers, and as Dave says, the full
> record is online at IrishGenealogy:
>
> Party 1 Name ALEXANDER REID
> Party 2 Name ANNIE STINSON
> Date of Event 15 June 1880
> Group Registration ID 2677080
> SR District/Reg Area Dungannon
> Image
>
> On the basis of Alexander being married in the Parish of Killeshill, and
> there being no James Reid in Finelly, I am fairly sure this is your family
> in the big land survey which we use as a census substitute=ute:
>
> Griffith's Valuation Record Information
> Tenant
> Family Name 1 REID
> Forename 1 JAMES
> Landlord
> Family Name 2 EVANS
> Forename 2 ROBERT
> Location
> County TYRONE
> Barony DUNGANNON, LOWER
> Union DUNGANNON
> Parish KILLEESHIL
> Townland ENNISH
> Place Name ENNISH
> Place Type TOWNLAND
> Publication Details
> Position on Page 22
> Printing Date 1860
> Act 15&16
> Sheet Number 53
> Map Reference 13
>
> You can find this information here and it is the core of Irish genealogy
> because it gives the exact location of a family's home:
>
> http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
>
> And this is almost definitely the Stinson family home:
>
> Griffith's Valuation Record Information
> Tenant
> Family Name 1 STENSON
> Forename 1 WILLIAM
> Landlord
> Family Name 2 GOFF
> Forename 2 JOSEPH
> Location
> County TYRONE
> Barony DUNGANNON, LOWER
> Union DUNGANNON
> Parish KILLEESHIL
> Townland CLONTYFALLOW
> Place Name CLONTYFALLOW
> Place Type TOWNLAND
> Publication Details
> Position on Page 14
> Printing Date 1860
> Act 15&16
> Sheet Number 53
> Map Reference 3
>
> Knowing the names of some of the children of Alexander and Ann confirms
> that the family you found in Crew is indeed the right one:
>
> Residents of a house 1 in Crew (Benburb, Tyrone)
> Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation
> Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
> Reid Alexander 60 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmer Read
> and write - Married -
> Reid Annie 50 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmers Wife Read and
> write - Married -
> Reid Mary 18 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone Dressmaker Read and
> write - Not Married -
> Reid Cathrine 16 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and
> write - Not Married -
> Reid Elizabeth 14 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and
> write - Not Married -
> Reid Sarah 12 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and
> write - Not Married -
> Reid Lilly 9 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone Scholar Read and write
> - Not Married -
> Reid Daniel 19 Male Visitor Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farm Servant Read and
> write - Not Married -
>
> And they are still there in 1911, in the same place using the same
> spelling, so not quite sure why you cannot find them:
>
> 1911 Census:
> Residents of a house 5 in Crew (Benburb, Tyrone)
> Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation
> Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married 
> Children
> Born Children Living
> Reid Alexander 70 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmer Read
> and write - Married - - - -
> Reid Annie 60 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Read and write -
> Married - 30 5 5
> Reid Catherine 27 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Read and write
> - Single - - - -
> Reid Lillie 19 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Read and write -
> Single - -
>
> And there are still Stinsons in Clontyfallow in 1911:
>
> 1911 Census:
> Residents of a house 2 in Clontyfallow (Clonaneese, Tyrone)
> Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation
> Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married 
> Children
> Born Children Living
> Stinson Samuel 70 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmer Read
> and write - Married - - - -
> Stinson Margaret 57 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Read and write -
> Married - 

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] REID & STINSON OF DUNAGANNON IRELAND

[Dave Mitchell]

Hello Bob

 

You need to go looking at the Civil Records -- suggest you go browsing and 
researching at https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ 

and especially the Civil Records at  
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

 

Elizabeth Reid’s birth register entry is accessible online 

 

Elizabeth Reid, born 20th June 1886

Daughter of Alexander Reid and Ann Reid formerly Steenson

 

Actual image is online at 

 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02596/1958844.pdf

 

(Have a look and you will find your townland ….!)

 

No fewer than 5 Thomas Reids born in the Dungannon area, between 1869 and 1885 
(however the 1885 fellow appears to be a different family)

 

In my experience, you would have a good chance of finding more BMDs for Reid in 
the Dungannon area.

 

Sincerely

 

 

Dave Mitchell

Cape Town

South Africa

 

From: CoTyroneList [mailto:cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com] On Behalf 
Of BOB CATRON
Sent: 26 January 2018 09:11 PM
To: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] REID & STINSON OF DUNAGANNON IRELAND

 

SEEKING ANY INFORMATION ON MY FAMILY MEMBERS FROM DUNAGANNON IRELAND. 

 

ALEXANDER REIDB/CA 1840

 

HIS SPOUSE:   ANNA STINSON  B/CA 1850

 

THEY HAD CHILDREN: I KNOW OF TWO BUT BELIEVE THERE WERE MORE.

 

ELIZABETH REID  B/ 28 MAY 1886 IN DUNAGANNON   D/ 16 OCT 1991

 

THOMAS REID  B/ UNK

 

THERE IS A REID FAMILY ON THE 1901 CENSUS IN CREW ( BENBURB, TYRONE  ) WHICH I 
THINK IS THE RIGHT FAMILY WOULD LIKE TO FIND THEM 1911 IF POSSIBLE. ANY 
INFORMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANKS TO ALL.

 

 

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