Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Coulter Family
Thanks so much Elwyn - very informative. The other reply did finally show up - looks like it got hung up in my email junk folder. Love this group - such great information and knowledge is shared. Thanks!! Barb > On Jul 8, 2019, at 8:49 AM, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList > wrote: > > Barb, > > You say you can't find my message, so I am resending it: > > > > Cooel is part of Coolavannagh townland, or an alternative name for it. > Today that’s on the Glen Rd outside Drumquin. I see a death for a > William Coulter in Cooel on 3.2.1884 aged 67. His son William was the > informant. > > There’s this 1 Coulter family there in 1901: > > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Clunahill/Coolavannagh/1722817/ > > Son Samuel was born at Cooel on 15.4.1872, and from that birth > certificate I can see his parents were William Coulter & Catherine > Wilson. You can see where the family farmed using the maps on the > Griffiths Valuation site: > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml > > Use the slider bar in the top rh corner to overlay a modern map on the > contemporaneous one. > > Same family in 1911: > > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Clunahill/Coolavannagh/852722/ > > Drumquin Presbyterian church only has records from 1845 onwards so > there are unlikely to be any records for the births of your John > Coulter c 1760 etc. There’s no Coulter family farming in Cooel in the > 1826 tithes. There was a William farming in Curraghamulkin which is > not too far away. I have no way of saying whether he’s the William who > stayed in Ireland. > > https://cotyroneireland.com/tithe/longfieldwest.html > > Elwyn > > ___ > CoTyroneList Mailing List > Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > Change Your Preferences: > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
[CoTyroneMailingList] Coulter Family
Barb, You say you can't find my message, so I am resending it: Cooel is part of Coolavannagh townland, or an alternative name for it. Today that’s on the Glen Rd outside Drumquin. I see a death for a William Coulter in Cooel on 3.2.1884 aged 67. His son William was the informant. There’s this 1 Coulter family there in 1901: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Clunahill/Coolavannagh/1722817/ Son Samuel was born at Cooel on 15.4.1872, and from that birth certificate I can see his parents were William Coulter & Catherine Wilson. You can see where the family farmed using the maps on the Griffiths Valuation site: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml Use the slider bar in the top rh corner to overlay a modern map on the contemporaneous one. Same family in 1911: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Clunahill/Coolavannagh/852722/ Drumquin Presbyterian church only has records from 1845 onwards so there are unlikely to be any records for the births of your John Coulter c 1760 etc. There’s no Coulter family farming in Cooel in the 1826 tithes. There was a William farming in Curraghamulkin which is not too far away. I have no way of saying whether he’s the William who stayed in Ireland. https://cotyroneireland.com/tithe/longfieldwest.html Elwyn ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Coulter family - Cooel, Dromore
Thanks Len! I had seen several of these records, but not all of them. You are such an amazing wealth of information. For some reason, I am not able to see Elwyn’s response - yours is the only one that shows up. Thanks again, Barb > On Jul 7, 2019, at 5:03 PM, Len Swindley wrote: > > Hello Barb, > > In addition to Elwyn’s excellent and speedy response, may I offer a little > further information that may be new to your research. As Elwyn stated, > Drumquin Presbyterian registers (marriages and baptisms) commence rather late > – 1845. Sad. However, the marriages listed below (my own extractions) may be > useful: > > DRUMQUIN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH (LONGFIELD EAST PARISH) > #4 > December 3 1845 > DANIEL BLAIR 35 years bachelor merchant Omagh. Father: JOHN BLAIR preacher > & > MARGARET COULTER 20 years spinster Drumquin. Father: JOHN COULTER farmer > Witnesses: JAMES TURNER & CHRISTOPHER TURNER > #17 > April 5 1848 > MATTHEW SPEER 21 years bachelor farmer Lack. Father: THOMAS SPEER farmer > & > MARGARET WILSON 19 years spinster Cooell. Father: JOHN WILSON farmer > Witnesses: ALEXANDER SMYTH & JOHN COULTER > #29 > December 19 1849 > JOHN MITCHELL full age bachelor farmer Killen. Father: JOHN MITCHELL farmer > & > MARGARET COULTER full age spinster Cooell. Father: WILLIAM COULTER farmer > Witnesses: CHARLES MITCHELL & WILLIAM JOHNSTON > #61 > November 13 1855 > WILLIAM COULTER full age bachelor farmer Cooell. Father: WILLIAM COULTER > farmer > & > CATHERINE WILSON full age spinster Cooell. Father: JOHN WILSON farmer > Witnesses: SPEER LAMMY & JAMES WILSON > > LONGFIELD WEST PARISH CHURCH (CHURCH OF IRELAND) > #2 > October 21 1845 > JAMES MAGEE 21 years bachelor famer Cooel, Lwr. Langfield. Father: WILLIAM > MAGEE farmer > & > ANN GRIFFIN 20 years spinster Carricknamulkin, Lwr. Langfield. Father: > WILLIAM GRIFFIN farmer > Witnesses: JOHN NETHERY & WILLIAM COULTER > #32 > March 4 1853 > ROBERT BURNS full age bachelor grocer Drumnaforbe, Upper Langfield. Father: > JOSEPH BURNS weaver? > & > CATHERINE COULTER full age spinster Cooell. Father: WILLIAM COULTER farmer > Witnesses: WILLIAM WILSON & MARY SPROULLE > > Re. the entry for John Colter & partners (brothers?) recorded at > Curraghamulkin in the 1826 Longfield West tithe applotment book, it is most > likely that this is the same family as Cooel and Curraghamulkin are separated > only by Dooish Mountain, Cooel being a more advantageous lease. > Trust this is helpful/ useful? > > Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > From: CoTyroneList on behalf of > BARBARA COULTER via CoTyroneList > Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 12:28:16 AM > To: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > Cc: BARBARA COULTER > Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Coulter family - Cooel, Dromore > > Hello County Tyrone listers, > > Hoping someone might be able to help out with some suggestions. I was > recently contacted by a previously unknown cousin of my husband who is > planning a trip to County Tyrone this summer. She is looking for places to > visit that might be close to the family’s ancestral home in Cooel. > > Thomas Coulter (b. 1785) and his wife Isabelle Clendenning (b. 1785) were > both from County Tyrone. According to family history, they moved to the US, > via Canada, in about 1818. Thomas’s parents were thought to be John Coulter > (b. abt 1760) and unknown Culbertson (Ancestry trees have her name as > Sharon, but I haven’t seen any evidence that it is true). Thomas’s siblings > were Wiliam, John & James. William remained in County Tyrone, and had > children who married into the Wilson, Speer, and Lammy families in County > Tyrone. No further information regarding John or James, but it is believed > that they also moved to America. > > I believe that they were Presbyterian. > > A mutual ancestor did a lot of research trying to trace the family in County > Tyrone. Her last correspondence was with Mrs. Robert Coulter, Cooel, > Drumquin in 1968. All efforts to contact the family in the 1970’s was futile. > > We would truly appreciated any suggestions/assistance that anyone might be > able to provide. > > Thanks! > Barb Coulter > ___ > CoTyroneList Mailing List > Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > Change Your Preferences: > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > > <http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com> > Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY <https://goo.gl/mQCKrY> ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Coulter family - Cooel, Dromore
Hello Barb, In addition to Elwyn’s excellent and speedy response, may I offer a little further information that may be new to your research. As Elwyn stated, Drumquin Presbyterian registers (marriages and baptisms) commence rather late – 1845. Sad. However, the marriages listed below (my own extractions) may be useful: DRUMQUIN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH (LONGFIELD EAST PARISH) #4 December 3 1845 DANIEL BLAIR 35 years bachelor merchant Omagh. Father: JOHN BLAIR preacher & MARGARET COULTER 20 years spinster Drumquin. Father: JOHN COULTER farmer Witnesses: JAMES TURNER & CHRISTOPHER TURNER #17 April 5 1848 MATTHEW SPEER 21 years bachelor farmer Lack. Father: THOMAS SPEER farmer & MARGARET WILSON 19 years spinster Cooell. Father: JOHN WILSON farmer Witnesses: ALEXANDER SMYTH & JOHN COULTER #29 December 19 1849 JOHN MITCHELL full age bachelor farmer Killen. Father: JOHN MITCHELL farmer & MARGARET COULTER full age spinster Cooell. Father: WILLIAM COULTER farmer Witnesses: CHARLES MITCHELL & WILLIAM JOHNSTON #61 November 13 1855 WILLIAM COULTER full age bachelor farmer Cooell. Father: WILLIAM COULTER farmer & CATHERINE WILSON full age spinster Cooell. Father: JOHN WILSON farmer Witnesses: SPEER LAMMY & JAMES WILSON LONGFIELD WEST PARISH CHURCH (CHURCH OF IRELAND) #2 October 21 1845 JAMES MAGEE 21 years bachelor famer Cooel, Lwr. Langfield. Father: WILLIAM MAGEE farmer & ANN GRIFFIN 20 years spinster Carricknamulkin, Lwr. Langfield. Father: WILLIAM GRIFFIN farmer Witnesses: JOHN NETHERY & WILLIAM COULTER #32 March 4 1853 ROBERT BURNS full age bachelor grocer Drumnaforbe, Upper Langfield. Father: JOSEPH BURNS weaver? & CATHERINE COULTER full age spinster Cooell. Father: WILLIAM COULTER farmer Witnesses: WILLIAM WILSON & MARY SPROULLE Re. the entry for John Colter & partners (brothers?) recorded at Curraghamulkin in the 1826 Longfield West tithe applotment book, it is most likely that this is the same family as Cooel and Curraghamulkin are separated only by Dooish Mountain, Cooel being a more advantageous lease. Trust this is helpful/ useful? Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: CoTyroneList on behalf of BARBARA COULTER via CoTyroneList Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 12:28:16 AM To: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Cc: BARBARA COULTER Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Coulter family - Cooel, Dromore Hello County Tyrone listers, Hoping someone might be able to help out with some suggestions. I was recently contacted by a previously unknown cousin of my husband who is planning a trip to County Tyrone this summer. She is looking for places to visit that might be close to the family’s ancestral home in Cooel. Thomas Coulter (b. 1785) and his wife Isabelle Clendenning (b. 1785) were both from County Tyrone. According to family history, they moved to the US, via Canada, in about 1818. Thomas’s parents were thought to be John Coulter (b. abt 1760) and unknown Culbertson (Ancestry trees have her name as Sharon, but I haven’t seen any evidence that it is true). Thomas’s siblings were Wiliam, John & James. William remained in County Tyrone, and had children who married into the Wilson, Speer, and Lammy families in County Tyrone. No further information regarding John or James, but it is believed that they also moved to America. I believe that they were Presbyterian. A mutual ancestor did a lot of research trying to trace the family in County Tyrone. Her last correspondence was with Mrs. Robert Coulter, Cooel, Drumquin in 1968. All efforts to contact the family in the 1970’s was futile. We would truly appreciated any suggestions/assistance that anyone might be able to provide. Thanks! Barb Coulter ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Coulter family - Cooel, Dromore
Barb, Cooel is part of Coolavannagh townland, or an alternative name for it. Today that’s on the Glen Rd outside Drumquin. I see a death for a William Coulter in Cooel on 3.2.1884 aged 67. His son William was the informant. There’s this 1 Coulter family there in 1901: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Clunahill/Coolavannagh/1722817/ Son Samuel was born at Cooel on 15.4.1872, and from that birth certificate I can see his parents were William Coulter & Catherine Wilson. You can see where the family farmed using the maps on the Griffiths Valuation site: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml Use the slider bar in the top rh corner to overlay a modern map on the contemporaneous one. Same family in 1911: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Clunahill/Coolavannagh/852722/ Drumquin Presbyterian church only has records from 1845 onwards so there are unlikely to be any records for the births of your John Coulter c 1760 etc. There’s no Coulter family farming in Cooel in the 1826 tithes. There was a William farming in Curraghamulkin which is not too far away. I have no way of saying whether he’s the William who stayed in Ireland. https://cotyroneireland.com/tithe/longfieldwest.html Elwyn On 07/07/2019, BARBARA COULTER via CoTyroneList wrote: > Hello County Tyrone listers, > > Hoping someone might be able to help out with some suggestions. I was > recently contacted by a previously unknown cousin of my husband who is > planning a trip to County Tyrone this summer. She is looking for places to > visit that might be close to the family’s ancestral home in Cooel. > > Thomas Coulter (b. 1785) and his wife Isabelle Clendenning (b. 1785) were > both from County Tyrone. According to family history, they moved to the US, > via Canada, in about 1818. Thomas’s parents were thought to be John Coulter > (b. abt 1760) and unknown Culbertson (Ancestry trees have her name as > Sharon, but I haven’t seen any evidence that it is true). Thomas’s siblings > were Wiliam, John & James. William remained in County Tyrone, and had > children who married into the Wilson, Speer, and Lammy families in County > Tyrone. No further information regarding John or James, but it is believed > that they also moved to America. > > I believe that they were Presbyterian. > > A mutual ancestor did a lot of research trying to trace the family in County > Tyrone. Her last correspondence was with Mrs. Robert Coulter, Cooel, > Drumquin in 1968. All efforts to contact the family in the 1970’s was > futile. > > We would truly appreciated any suggestions/assistance that anyone might be > able to provide. > > Thanks! > Barb Coulter > ___ > CoTyroneList Mailing List > Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > Change Your Preferences: > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY > ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
[CoTyroneMailingList] Coulter family - Cooel, Dromore
Hello County Tyrone listers, Hoping someone might be able to help out with some suggestions. I was recently contacted by a previously unknown cousin of my husband who is planning a trip to County Tyrone this summer. She is looking for places to visit that might be close to the family’s ancestral home in Cooel. Thomas Coulter (b. 1785) and his wife Isabelle Clendenning (b. 1785) were both from County Tyrone. According to family history, they moved to the US, via Canada, in about 1818. Thomas’s parents were thought to be John Coulter (b. abt 1760) and unknown Culbertson (Ancestry trees have her name as Sharon, but I haven’t seen any evidence that it is true). Thomas’s siblings were Wiliam, John & James. William remained in County Tyrone, and had children who married into the Wilson, Speer, and Lammy families in County Tyrone. No further information regarding John or James, but it is believed that they also moved to America. I believe that they were Presbyterian. A mutual ancestor did a lot of research trying to trace the family in County Tyrone. Her last correspondence was with Mrs. Robert Coulter, Cooel, Drumquin in 1968. All efforts to contact the family in the 1970’s was futile. We would truly appreciated any suggestions/assistance that anyone might be able to provide. Thanks! Barb Coulter ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
