[Coworking] Re: Blog Entry on Coworking
Your posted comments on your link are EXACTLY what WHERE is about too.. Would love to contribute/ collaborate where...@gmail.com Danielle Nicoli www.wheremmm.com Facebook WHERE Meet, Mix, Mogul Twitter @wheremmm for site member updates On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Mike Pihlman m...@telbitconsulting.comwrote: I wrote a very quick blog entry on Coworking and my experiences so far (2 months being open) out here in Tracy, CA (commuter-ville USA). http://telbitconsulting.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/coworking/ Mike -- Mike Pihlman TracyVirtualOffice A Coworking Community 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 203 Tracy, CA 95376 Mobile: 209-608-4340 Web: TracyVirtualOffice.com Twitter: @TracyVirtOffice --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: North County San Diego
I'm interested too, we need something in North County. The hivehaus downtown is an awesome place but too far of a commute. On Jun 9, 8:45 am, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: Are you looking to open a site or connect with someone who already is? On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Michelle michellehol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just wondering if there was any interest in getting this going in North County San Diego? Thanks, Michelle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] My introduction and looking for someplace in LA
Hi all , I am a ASIC designer in Taiwan , I ever been a freelancer one year experience , but the result wasn't good ; the productivity was poor even I had whole day without interrupt , so I came back company forgot my career plan . One day I were mentioned www.xindanwei.com a coworking space in China and Liu Yan gave me guide to this group . I am happy to have you that had same thought with me , hope I can find someone in Taiwan also interesting this idea ! One of my friend in LA actually in Rowland Heights Zip code 91748 want to find some space close her , Does anyone can help me about that ? Best, Roger Lin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Blog Entry on Coworking
ditto. Matthew Titsworth matt...@companydallas.com http://www.companydallas.com http://www.twitter.com/companydallas On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:00 AM, WHERE MMMwhere...@gmail.com wrote: Your posted comments on your link are EXACTLY what WHERE is about too.. Would love to contribute/ collaborate where...@gmail.com Danielle Nicoli www.wheremmm.com Facebook WHERE Meet, Mix, Mogul Twitter @wheremmm for site member updates On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Mike Pihlman m...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: I wrote a very quick blog entry on Coworking and my experiences so far (2 months being open) out here in Tracy, CA (commuter-ville USA). http://telbitconsulting.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/coworking/ Mike -- Mike Pihlman TracyVirtualOffice A Coworking Community 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 203 Tracy, CA 95376 Mobile: 209-608-4340 Web: TracyVirtualOffice.com Twitter: @TracyVirtOffice --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Introduction/Mobile Coworking
Hi folks, My name is Jimmy Thrasher, and I live near Mebane, NC (Mebbin, 10K- ish people). My interest in coworking is mainly from the working side, but to that end I and a friend are evaluating setting up a light- weight mobile coworking space that can be dropped into any of the number of empty office spaces in downtown Mebane. There are enough telecommuters and long-distance commuters that I think it could fly but haven't proven it to myself yet. I really just want to be able to cycle to work. If anybody here has set up something like this, I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I'm envisioning: - a big room - with two tables - free (included) wifi - free-ish coffee - nice chairs Jimmy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Blog Entry on Coworking
Mike, we are in a commuter town as well and just opened. It will be interesting how quickly we get members. I hired a marketing person to hit the trail and spread the word 15 hours per week. She feels she can fill it up. We have 16 seats with table/desk/or cube settings plus a kitchen coffee bar, meeting room, copy room. We hope to get 40 members by the end of the year. Lets keep in touch on each others progress Trent Clark SmartOffice.pro trentcl...@smartoffice.pro On Jul 8, 1:03 pm, Mike Pihlman m...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: I wrote a very quick blog entry on Coworking and my experiences so far (2 months being open) out here in Tracy, CA (commuter-ville USA). http://telbitconsulting.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/coworking/ Mike -- Mike Pihlman TracyVirtualOffice A Coworking Community 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 203 Tracy, CA 95376 Mobile: 209-608-4340 Web: TracyVirtualOffice.com Twitter: @TracyVirtOffice --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking
Hello Jimmy, Our biggest challenge has been letting people know our coworking site is available. Neither I nor my partner are natural publicists. After watching these postings for about 6 months I'm beginning to believe this is a common but under-discussed problem. We hear a lot from the groups that are having well attended events but those that are having difficulty bringing people in are quiet about it. Does anyone else out there get this impression? Liza Loop Fiber High, 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Jimmyjjthr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, My name is Jimmy Thrasher, and I live near Mebane, NC (Mebbin, 10K- ish people). My interest in coworking is mainly from the working side, but to that end I and a friend are evaluating setting up a light- weight mobile coworking space that can be dropped into any of the number of empty office spaces in downtown Mebane. There are enough telecommuters and long-distance commuters that I think it could fly but haven't proven it to myself yet. I really just want to be able to cycle to work. If anybody here has set up something like this, I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I'm envisioning: - a big room - with two tables - free (included) wifi - free-ish coffee - nice chairs Jimmy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking
Liza: I'm finding it difficult to get folks in here. But, I have a steady dribble of 3 or 4 lookers per week and am encouraged by that. I am only 2 months into itso I think / hope there is time. Maybe when school starts up again there will be more lookers (especially for the tutoring part). I take heart in all the success storiesso please keep them coming! :-) Mike Liza Loop wrote: Hello Jimmy, Our biggest challenge has been letting people know our coworking site is available. Neither I nor my partner are natural publicists. After watching these postings for about 6 months I'm beginning to believe this is a common but under-discussed problem. We hear a lot from the groups that are having well attended events but those that are having difficulty bringing people in are quiet about it. Does anyone else out there get this impression? Liza Loop Fiber High, 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Jimmyjjthr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, My name is Jimmy Thrasher, and I live near Mebane, NC (Mebbin, 10K- ish people). My interest in coworking is mainly from the working side, but to that end I and a friend are evaluating setting up a light- weight mobile coworking space that can be dropped into any of the number of empty office spaces in downtown Mebane. There are enough telecommuters and long-distance commuters that I think it could fly but haven't proven it to myself yet. I really just want to be able to cycle to work. If anybody here has set up something like this, I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I'm envisioning: - a big room - with two tables - free (included) wifi - free-ish coffee - nice chairs Jimmy -- Mike Pihlman TracyVirtualOffice A Coworking Community 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 203 Tracy, CA 95376 Mobile: 209-608-4340 Web: TracyVirtualOffice.com Twitter: @TracyVirtOffice --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Creating new space - SF
Are there already several SOMA spaces? Do they have enough members to survive? How large is the potential market? How long can your space survive if subscription doesn't meet your projections? These are the questions we are facing in Palo Alto so I'd expect them to be similar for you. Good luck in contacting your collaborators/competitors. Liza Loop Fiber High, LLC 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA 94303 www.fiberhigh.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Marko Gargentamarak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I own an office space in San Francisco Soma district. My tenant is leaving and I'm thinking of using this opportunity to convert it into a coworking environment. I've had an idea how I want to do it for a while but this is first time when I'm actually going to pull a plug and go from renting a space to one tenant to creating a community. I'm looking for other space owner's experiences making this transition. The space is about 1000sf and furnished for 6 people. While I love the space, my tech business is in another space so I wouldn't be present day-to-day. Cheers, Marko ...from SomaRental.com to SomaOffice.com, trying to figure out the transition... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Creating new space - SF
There are, in fact, at LEAST 3 coworking spaces in SOMA: PariSoma, Sandbox Suites and (mine) Citizen Space. None of them are full from what I understand. T On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Liza Loop lizal...@gmail.com wrote: Are there already several SOMA spaces? Do they have enough members to survive? How large is the potential market? How long can your space survive if subscription doesn't meet your projections? These are the questions we are facing in Palo Alto so I'd expect them to be similar for you. Good luck in contacting your collaborators/competitors. Liza Loop Fiber High, LLC 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA 94303 www.fiberhigh.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Marko Gargentamarak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I own an office space in San Francisco Soma district. My tenant is leaving and I'm thinking of using this opportunity to convert it into a coworking environment. I've had an idea how I want to do it for a while but this is first time when I'm actually going to pull a plug and go from renting a space to one tenant to creating a community. I'm looking for other space owner's experiences making this transition. The space is about 1000sf and furnished for 6 people. While I love the space, my tech business is in another space so I wouldn't be present day-to-day. Cheers, Marko ...from SomaRental.com to SomaOffice.com, trying to figure out the transition... -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 415-694-1951 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Creating new space - SF
(not saying that to discourage you...just to think about spreading the love to another part of the city...we need more in the Mission, Hayes Valley, The Castro...etc) On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: There are, in fact, at LEAST 3 coworking spaces in SOMA: PariSoma, Sandbox Suites and (mine) Citizen Space. None of them are full from what I understand. T On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Liza Loop lizal...@gmail.com wrote: Are there already several SOMA spaces? Do they have enough members to survive? How large is the potential market? How long can your space survive if subscription doesn't meet your projections? These are the questions we are facing in Palo Alto so I'd expect them to be similar for you. Good luck in contacting your collaborators/competitors. Liza Loop Fiber High, LLC 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA 94303 www.fiberhigh.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Marko Gargentamarak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I own an office space in San Francisco Soma district. My tenant is leaving and I'm thinking of using this opportunity to convert it into a coworking environment. I've had an idea how I want to do it for a while but this is first time when I'm actually going to pull a plug and go from renting a space to one tenant to creating a community. I'm looking for other space owner's experiences making this transition. The space is about 1000sf and furnished for 6 people. While I love the space, my tech business is in another space so I wouldn't be present day-to-day. Cheers, Marko ...from SomaRental.com to SomaOffice.com, trying to figure out the transition... -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 415-694-1951 -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 415-694-1951 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: North County San Diego
Interested as well. Just moved to Solana Beach! Erica Douglass Are you on a quest for financial freedom? Check out http://www.erica.biz/ for candid conversations about entrepreneurship, investments, and wealth. -Original Message- From: coworking@googlegroups.com [mailto:cowork...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sam Afifi Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:44 PM To: Coworking Subject: [Coworking] Re: North County San Diego I'm interested too, we need something in North County. The hivehaus downtown is an awesome place but too far of a commute. On Jun 9, 8:45 am, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: Are you looking to open a site or connect with someone who already is? On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Michelle michellehol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just wondering if there was any interest in getting this going in North County San Diego? Thanks, Michelle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: An angel investor for coworking?
Hi Liu, Just wanted to second Tony's thoughts on getting to know an investor before taking on any money. No matter how much they trust you, an investor is going to want reports, tracking of numbers and to know how you plan to increase revenue tomorrow? You need to decide how you want to run your business. Then again she might be a great partner. Proceed with caution and you will figure out the best choice. Good luck! All the best, Felicity Cubescrayons in SF and SV Outside the Cube in SF On Jul 1, 4:41 pm, Tony Bacigalupo tonybacigal...@gmail.com wrote: Liu, That's great! When people see a coworking space for the first time they are often very inspired. I'm sure this will work itself out with time, but I hope that you are able to tale the time to get to know one another well before committing to taking any money. The better relationship you have and the more you know about each other's interests and goals, the better. It sounds like she is great, as she has already stepped up and volunteered, but the better you understand your mutual goals going forward, the better the whole thing will be. Congrats and keep keeping is posted! Best, Tony On Jul 1, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Liu Yan liuyan.dat...@gmail.com wrote: Oh man, what a hilarious first day yesterday! An angel investor (who used to work for us as a happy volunteer during the preparation phase) proposed to us with her money. I am not sure if she really understands our business well, but she told us she had great trust on us and wants to get involved in our biz more than just a volunteer. We were quite shocked as you could imagine, not by her unknown wealthy family background, but by this extra starting capital emerged fallen from the sky. I know there are many many tech-related entrepreneurs out here, I am sure you guys have a lt more experience on how to cope with an angel investor like this. Please do help! best, Yan Liu Yan刘妍 (+86)135 2429 5509 Xindanwei Coworking Playce Xindanwei China Coworking Network @theliuyan @xindanwei http://xindanwei.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Way to go, New Work City!
Congrats tony. Look for Mary from our SF office to be chatting with you. She is completely inspired! Felicity On Jul 8, 2:00 pm, Tony Bacigalupo tonybacigal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Susan! I was at yesterday's press conference and got to meet Mayor Bloomberg! Obligatory photo:http://yfrog.com/1753jj We're doing our part to interface with the city's efforts however we can, and hopefully will be able to report progress sometime next month. Stay tuned! Best, Tony - *New Work City - Coworking NYC style.* *Phone:*(888) 823-3494 *Email:* 3...@nwcny.com *Web:*http://nwcny.com *Twitter:*http://twitter.com/nwc On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Susan Evans susan.c.ev...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.observer.com/2009/media/mayor-announces-15-million-bailout... Great mention in the article - you guys are rockstars, and a great example for the rest of us to connect with our local governments to provide a great example of how collaborative work can be done. Woo hoo! Susan __ Office Nomads http://www.officenomads.com 206-484-5859 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Creating new space - SF
Again not to discourage but also Outside the Cube just opened in Potrero and there is a social venture one coming in September I think in mission district, but I might be wrong. Two things: 1. If you are not going to be onsite, who will be. Creating a good community I'd important to success and you need someone to welcome clients, introduce them, etc. 2. Maybe just sublease the space to a couple of tenants instead of launching a coworking space. I think you have quite a bit of competition in a tough economy. Just my two cents. Felicity On Jul 9, 11:49 am, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: (not saying that to discourage you...just to think about spreading the love to another part of the city...we need more in the Mission, Hayes Valley, The Castro...etc) On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: There are, in fact, at LEAST 3 coworking spaces in SOMA: PariSoma, Sandbox Suites and (mine) Citizen Space. None of them are full from what I understand. T On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Liza Loop lizal...@gmail.com wrote: Are there already several SOMA spaces? Do they have enough members to survive? How large is the potential market? How long can your space survive if subscription doesn't meet your projections? These are the questions we are facing in Palo Alto so I'd expect them to be similar for you. Good luck in contacting your collaborators/competitors. Liza Loop Fiber High, LLC 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA 94303 www.fiberhigh.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Marko Gargentamarak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I own an office space in San Francisco Soma district. My tenant is leaving and I'm thinking of using this opportunity to convert it into a coworking environment. I've had an idea how I want to do it for a while but this is first time when I'm actually going to pull a plug and go from renting a space to one tenant to creating a community. I'm looking for other space owner's experiences making this transition. The space is about 1000sf and furnished for 6 people. While I love the space, my tech business is in another space so I wouldn't be present day-to-day. Cheers, Marko ...from SomaRental.com to SomaOffice.com, trying to figure out the transition... -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone:415-694-1951 -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone:415-694-1951 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: An angel investor for coworking?
Agreed - all the good will in the world doesn't help when interests aren't aligned... Get onto the same page and make sure everyone has clear expectations. Also, if you can, try do it without the money - too much money brings with it all sorts of other things (and I'm not trying to sound like a hippy, promise). Regards Gareth gareth.kni...@gmail.com http://www.oneafrikan.com/ UK mobile: +44 (0) 77 66 00 66 56 SA mobile: +27 (0) 72 62 79 21 2 twitter: http://twitter.com/oneafrikan skype: iamoneafrikan chat: oneafri...@hotmail.com | gareth.kni...@gmail.com about: http://www.oneafrikan.com/colophon/ photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/garethknight/sets/ Due to email overload, I subscribe to this policy: http://five.sentenc.es/ 2009/7/9 felicity at cubes felicity.chap...@gmail.com Hi Liu, Just wanted to second Tony's thoughts on getting to know an investor before taking on any money. No matter how much they trust you, an investor is going to want reports, tracking of numbers and to know how you plan to increase revenue tomorrow? You need to decide how you want to run your business. Then again she might be a great partner. Proceed with caution and you will figure out the best choice. Good luck! All the best, Felicity Cubescrayons in SF and SV Outside the Cube in SF On Jul 1, 4:41 pm, Tony Bacigalupo tonybacigal...@gmail.com wrote: Liu, That's great! When people see a coworking space for the first time they are often very inspired. I'm sure this will work itself out with time, but I hope that you are able to tale the time to get to know one another well before committing to taking any money. The better relationship you have and the more you know about each other's interests and goals, the better. It sounds like she is great, as she has already stepped up and volunteered, but the better you understand your mutual goals going forward, the better the whole thing will be. Congrats and keep keeping is posted! Best, Tony On Jul 1, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Liu Yan liuyan.dat...@gmail.com wrote: Oh man, what a hilarious first day yesterday! An angel investor (who used to work for us as a happy volunteer during the preparation phase) proposed to us with her money. I am not sure if she really understands our business well, but she told us she had great trust on us and wants to get involved in our biz more than just a volunteer. We were quite shocked as you could imagine, not by her unknown wealthy family background, but by this extra starting capital emerged fallen from the sky. I know there are many many tech-related entrepreneurs out here, I am sure you guys have a lt more experience on how to cope with an angel investor like this. Please do help! best, Yan Liu Yan刘妍 (+86)135 2429 5509 Xindanwei Coworking Playce Xindanwei China Coworking Network @theliuyan @xindanwei http://xindanwei.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: An angel investor for coworking?
Hi Yan, For starters, make sure YOU understand your business well. And then find out what your angel wants to get out of her investment. She may just believe that having a coworking space is a valuable investment in her community and not ever expect to see the money again. On the other hand, she may view your organization as an opportunity for net income in excess of expenses (profit). When working in Russia I met many people from a communist background who didn't understand the difference between gross revenue and profit. Of course, China has a lot of capitalist experience by now. Still, I suggest you have a serious talk with your potential benefactor before you accept her money. Good luck with your venture/adventure. Liza 2009/7/1 Liu Yan liuyan.dat...@gmail.com: Oh man, what a hilarious first day yesterday! An angel investor (who used to work for us as a happy volunteer during the preparation phase) proposed to us with her money. I am not sure if she really understands our business well, but she told us she had great trust on us and wants to get involved in our biz more than just a volunteer. We were quite shocked as you could imagine, not by her unknown wealthy family background, but by this extra starting capital emerged fallen from the sky. I know there are many many tech-related entrepreneurs out here, I am sure you guys have a lt more experience on how to cope with an angel investor like this. Please do help! best, Yan Liu Yan刘妍 (+86) 135 2429 5509 Xindanwei Coworking Playce Xindanwei China Coworking Network @theliuyan @xindanwei http://xindanwei.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking
Hi Mike, We're having the same problem. Our location is in a light industrial area, off the beaten path for pedestrians. It's ideal for quiet cubicle residents but since the bottom has fallen out of the office market folks can get an enclosed office for what we have to charge for a cubicle. We thought our fiber optic connectivity and collocation facility would be a sufficient draw for people who need a big web pipe but so far our expectations haven't been realized. The tenants we do have are struggling as much as we are. Lookers are great but they don't pay the bills. 3 or 4 who don't actually join the club are tantalizing. We can survive for another couple of months but without some serious support it will be curtains for Fiber High. Our other IT business, GoQuiet, has been subsidizing Fiber High for almost a year and we're getting very hungry. We're trying out a series of free Up 'n Down Load-a-thons to give folks a free taste of our high speed network (the next one is July 28th, 3-11 pm). Hopefully it will be addictive. But we're not waiting for miracles. Rather, we're exploring other business models to provide additional income. Any suggestions are more than welcome. I hope that we haven't created a co-working bubble by sharing our enthusiam online with each other and miss judged the market. Cheers (slightly damped),m Liza Loop On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mike Pihlmanm...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: Liza: I'm finding it difficult to get folks in here. But, I have a steady dribble of 3 or 4 lookers per week and am encouraged by that. I am only 2 months into itso I think / hope there is time. Maybe when school starts up again there will be more lookers (especially for the tutoring part). I take heart in all the success storiesso please keep them coming! :-) Mike Liza Loop wrote: Hello Jimmy, Our biggest challenge has been letting people know our coworking site is available. Neither I nor my partner are natural publicists. After watching these postings for about 6 months I'm beginning to believe this is a common but under-discussed problem. We hear a lot from the groups that are having well attended events but those that are having difficulty bringing people in are quiet about it. Does anyone else out there get this impression? Liza Loop Fiber High, 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Jimmyjjthr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, My name is Jimmy Thrasher, and I live near Mebane, NC (Mebbin, 10K- ish people). My interest in coworking is mainly from the working side, but to that end I and a friend are evaluating setting up a light- weight mobile coworking space that can be dropped into any of the number of empty office spaces in downtown Mebane. There are enough telecommuters and long-distance commuters that I think it could fly but haven't proven it to myself yet. I really just want to be able to cycle to work. If anybody here has set up something like this, I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I'm envisioning: - a big room - with two tables - free (included) wifi - free-ish coffee - nice chairs Jimmy -- Mike Pihlman TracyVirtualOffice A Coworking Community 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 203 Tracy, CA 95376 Mobile: 209-608-4340 Web: TracyVirtualOffice.com Twitter: @TracyVirtOffice --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking
Have you contacted local organizers on Meetup.com and offered them to hold their meetups in your facility for free in the evenings? This could get a lot of traffic through your space. If there are not local meetups for your target demographic consider organizing them yourself. JMTCW. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Liza Loop lizal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, We're having the same problem. Our location is in a light industrial area, off the beaten path for pedestrians. It's ideal for quiet cubicle residents but since the bottom has fallen out of the office market folks can get an enclosed office for what we have to charge for a cubicle. We thought our fiber optic connectivity and collocation facility would be a sufficient draw for people who need a big web pipe but so far our expectations haven't been realized. The tenants we do have are struggling as much as we are. Lookers are great but they don't pay the bills. 3 or 4 who don't actually join the club are tantalizing. We can survive for another couple of months but without some serious support it will be curtains for Fiber High. Our other IT business, GoQuiet, has been subsidizing Fiber High for almost a year and we're getting very hungry. We're trying out a series of free Up 'n Down Load-a-thons to give folks a free taste of our high speed network (the next one is July 28th, 3-11 pm). Hopefully it will be addictive. But we're not waiting for miracles. Rather, we're exploring other business models to provide additional income. Any suggestions are more than welcome. I hope that we haven't created a co-working bubble by sharing our enthusiam online with each other and miss judged the market. Cheers (slightly damped),m Liza Loop On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mike Pihlmanm...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: Liza: I'm finding it difficult to get folks in here. But, I have a steady dribble of 3 or 4 lookers per week and am encouraged by that. I am only 2 months into itso I think / hope there is time. Maybe when school starts up again there will be more lookers (especially for the tutoring part). I take heart in all the success storiesso please keep them coming! :-) Mike Liza Loop wrote: Hello Jimmy, Our biggest challenge has been letting people know our coworking site is available. Neither I nor my partner are natural publicists. After watching these postings for about 6 months I'm beginning to believe this is a common but under-discussed problem. We hear a lot from the groups that are having well attended events but those that are having difficulty bringing people in are quiet about it. Does anyone else out there get this impression? Liza Loop Fiber High, 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Jimmyjjthr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, My name is Jimmy Thrasher, and I live near Mebane, NC (Mebbin, 10K- ish people). My interest in coworking is mainly from the working side, but to that end I and a friend are evaluating setting up a light- weight mobile coworking space that can be dropped into any of the number of empty office spaces in downtown Mebane. There are enough telecommuters and long-distance commuters that I think it could fly but haven't proven it to myself yet. I really just want to be able to cycle to work. If anybody here has set up something like this, I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I'm envisioning: - a big room - with two tables - free (included) wifi - free-ish coffee - nice chairs Jimmy -- Mike Pihlman TracyVirtualOffice A Coworking Community 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 203 Tracy, CA 95376 Mobile: 209-608-4340 Web: TracyVirtualOffice.com Twitter: @TracyVirtOffice --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking
Mike: Thats is a great idea. Thanks. :-) Liza: That is why I started tutoring now that I am a real teacher. 5 students (I have 1 and it's summer) and 5 coworkers (I have 3) and I'm breaking even. Tracy is low cost compared to your location, I'm sure. With all your BWI will talk to you off-line about some ideas. Mike --- On Thu, 7/9/09, mikeschin...@newclarity.net mikeschin...@newclarity.net wrote: From: mikeschin...@newclarity.net mikeschin...@newclarity.net Subject: [Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking To: coworking@googlegroups.com coworking@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 7:27 PM Have you contacted local organizers on Meetup.com and offered them to hold their meetups in your facility for free in the evenings? This could get a lot of traffic through your space. If there are not local meetups for your target demographic consider organizing them yourself. JMTCW. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Liza Loop lizal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, We're having the same problem. Our location is in a light industrial area, off the beaten path for pedestrians. It's ideal for quiet cubicle residents but since the bottom has fallen out of the office market folks can get an enclosed office for what we have to charge for a cubicle. We thought our fiber optic connectivity and collocation facility would be a sufficient draw for people who need a big web pipe but so far our expectations haven't been realized. The tenants we do have are struggling as much as we are. Lookers are great but they don't pay the bills. 3 or 4 who don't actually join the club are tantalizing. We can survive for another couple of months but without some serious support it will be curtains for Fiber High. Our other IT business, GoQuiet, has been subsidizing Fiber High for almost a year and we're getting very hungry. We're trying out a series of free Up 'n Down Load-a-thons to give folks a free taste of our high speed network (the next one is July 28th, 3-11 pm). Hopefully it will be addictive. But we're not waiting for miracles. Rather, we're exploring other business models to provide additional income. Any suggestions are more than welcome. I hope that we haven't created a co-working bubble by sharing our enthusiam online with each other and miss judged the market. Cheers (slightly damped),m Liza Loop On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mike Pihlmanm...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: Liza: I'm finding it difficult to get folks in here. But, I have a steady dribble of 3 or 4 lookers per week and am encouraged by that. I am only 2 months into itso I think / hope there is time. Maybe when school starts up again there will be more lookers (especially for the tutoring part). I take heart in all the success storiesso please keep them coming! :-) Mike Liza Loop wrote: Hello Jimmy, Our biggest challenge has been letting people know our coworking site is available. Neither I nor my partner are natural publicists. After watching these postings for about 6 months I'm beginning to believe this is a common but under-discussed problem. We hear a lot from the groups that are having well attended events but those that are having difficulty bringing people in are quiet about it. Does anyone else out there get this impression? Liza Loop Fiber High, 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Jimmyjjthr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, My name is Jimmy Thrasher, and I live near Mebane, NC (Mebbin, 10K- ish people). My interest in coworking is mainly from the working side, but to that end I and a friend are evaluating setting up a light- weight mobile coworking space that can be dropped into any of the number of empty office spaces in downtown Mebane. There are enough telecommuters and long-distance commuters that I think it could fly but haven't proven it to myself yet. I really just want to be able to cycle to work. If anybody here has set up something like this, I'd be interested to hear your experiences. I'm envisioning: - a big room - with two tables - free (included) wifi - free-ish coffee - nice chairs Jimmy -- Mike Pihlman TracyVirtualOffice A Coworking Community 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 203 Tracy, CA 95376 Mobile: 209-608-4340 Web: TracyVirtualOffice.com Twitter: @TracyVirtOffice --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
[Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking
Thanks for your ideas, Mike and Jimmy. Yes I have tried Meet-ups. I'm not any better at publicizing them than I am at promoting Fiber High as a whole. Participating in this group is another strategy I'm using although it may be preaching to the choir. Several people have told me that repetition is key to getting traffic through the space. I interpret that to mean don't give up! We held a Free Up 'n Down Load-a-thon on Tuesday and only 2 new people showed up so we're trying it again on Tuesday, July 28th (my 64th birthday!). So send your friends around to this event as a birthday present to me. I'm also looking at hosting a NetSquared Tuesday Meeting (http://groups.drupal.org/node/4385) that same evening. Keep the ideas coming. We never know which one will turn the trick. Liza On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Mike Pihlmanm...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: Mike: Thats is a great idea. Thanks. :-) Liza: That is why I started tutoring now that I am a real teacher. 5 students (I have 1 and it's summer) and 5 coworkers (I have 3) and I'm breaking even. Tracy is low cost compared to your location, I'm sure. With all your BWI will talk to you off-line about some ideas. Mike --- On Thu, 7/9/09, mikeschin...@newclarity.net mikeschin...@newclarity.net wrote: From: mikeschin...@newclarity.net mikeschin...@newclarity.net Subject: [Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking To: coworking@googlegroups.com coworking@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 7:27 PM Have you contacted local organizers on Meetup.com and offered them to hold their meetups in your facility for free in the evenings? This could get a lot of traffic through your space. If there are not local meetups for your target demographic consider organizing them yourself. JMTCW. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Liza Loop lizal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, We're having the same problem. Our location is in a light industrial area, off the beaten path for pedestrians. It's ideal for quiet cubicle residents but since the bottom has fallen out of the office market folks can get an enclosed office for what we have to charge for a cubicle. We thought our fiber optic connectivity and collocation facility would be a sufficient draw for people who need a big web pipe but so far our expectations haven't been realized. The tenants we do have are struggling as much as we are. Lookers are great but they don't pay the bills. 3 or 4 who don't actually join the club are tantalizing. We can survive for another couple of months but without some serious support it will be curtains for Fiber High. Our other IT business, GoQuiet, has been subsidizing Fiber High for almost a year and we're getting very hungry. We're trying out a series of free Up 'n Down Load-a-thons to give folks a free taste of our high speed network (the next one is July 28th, 3-11 pm). Hopefully it will be addictive. But we're not waiting for miracles. Rather, we're exploring other business models to provide additional income. Any suggestions are more than welcome. I hope that we haven't created a co-working bubble by sharing our enthusiam online with each other and miss judged the market. Cheers (slightly damped),m Liza Loop On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mike Pihlmanm...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: Liza: I'm finding it difficult to get folks in here. But, I have a steady dribble of 3 or 4 lookers per week and am encouraged by that. I am only 2 months into itso I think / hope there is time. Maybe when school starts up again there will be more lookers (especially for the tutoring part). I take heart in all the success storiesso please keep them coming! :-) Mike Liza Loop wrote: Hello Jimmy, Our biggest challenge has been letting people know our coworking site is available. Neither I nor my partner are natural publicists. After watching these postings for about 6 months I'm beginning to believe this is a common but under-discussed problem. We hear a lot from the groups that are having well attended events but those that are having difficulty bringing people in are quiet about it. Does anyone else out there get this impression? Liza Loop Fiber High, 989 Commercial St. Palo Alto, CA On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Jimmyjjthr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, My name is Jimmy Thrasher, and I live near Mebane, NC (Mebbin, 10K- ish people). My interest in coworking is mainly from the working side, but to that end I and a friend are evaluating setting up a light- weight mobile coworking space that can be dropped into any of the number of empty office spaces in downtown Mebane. There are enough telecommuters and long-distance commuters that I think it could fly but haven't proven it to myself yet. I really just want
[Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking
Also use Twitter. Twitter is like virtual coworking for active users. I think people who actively use Twitter are much more likely than the average person to be drawn to coworking. Follow everyone you can from your local area. Engage people you follow in public conversation by responding to their tweets with something meaningful to add. Behave like you would face to face at a social event but feel free to butt in on any conversation; not only is that okay, it's expected. If you see the people you follow tweeting things you think are noteworthy, especially links to interesting articles, retweet them. And also talk about what you are doing throughout the day. Subtly mention your facility when it seems natural. Do NOT go into full court press marketing mode; your goal is to get people to want to engage with you, not run screaming from you. And while it makes sense to get a Twitter account for your coworking space too, tweet mostly from your own personal account with a screen name that matches your full name (or as close to it as you can get) and an avatar that is a headshot showing your face clearly. We Twitters mostly want to engage and build relationships with real people, not faceless entities. Lastly be sure in your profile to state your location being the city where your space is, a bio that mentions your role related to your space, and a URL to your space's website or a link to a page about you that includes a very easy to find link to your space's website. Spend 30 minutes a day on Twitter doing this and my bet is if there are people locally who are real propects for your space you'll soon fill it. Again JMTCW. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Mike Pihlman m...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: Mike: Thats is a great idea. Thanks. :-) Liza: That is why I started tutoring now that I am a real teacher. 5 students (I have 1 and it's summer) and 5 coworkers (I have 3) and I'm breaking even. Tracy is low cost compared to your location, I'm sure. With all your BWI will talk to you off-line about some ideas. Mike --- On Thu, 7/9/09, mikeschin...@newclarity.net mikeschin...@newclarity.net wrote: From: mikeschin...@newclarity.net mikeschin...@newclarity.net Subject: [Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking To: coworking@googlegroups.com coworking@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 7:27 PM Have you contacted local organizers on Meetup.com and offered them to hold their meetups in your facility for free in the evenings? This could get a lot of traffic through your space. If there are not local meetups for your target demographic consider organizing them yourself. JMTCW. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Liza Loop lizal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, We're having the same problem. Our location is in a light industrial area, off the beaten path for pedestrians. It's ideal for quiet cubicle residents but since the bottom has fallen out of the office market folks can get an enclosed office for what we have to charge for a cubicle. We thought our fiber optic connectivity and collocation facility would be a sufficient draw for people who need a big web pipe but so far our expectations haven't been realized. The tenants we do have are struggling as much as we are. Lookers are great but they don't pay the bills. 3 or 4 who don't actually join the club are tantalizing. We can survive for another couple of months but without some serious support it will be curtains for Fiber High. Our other IT business, GoQuiet, has been subsidizing Fiber High for almost a year and we're getting very hungry. We're trying out a series of free Up 'n Down Load-a-thons to give folks a free taste of our high speed network (the next one is July 28th, 3-11 pm). Hopefully it will be addictive. But we're not waiting for miracles. Rather, we're exploring other business models to provide additional income. Any suggestions are more than welcome. I hope that we haven't created a co-working bubble by sharing our enthusiam online with each other and miss judged the market. Cheers (slightly damped),m Liza Loop On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mike Pihlmanm...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: Liza: I'm finding it difficult to get folks in here. But, I have a steady dribble of 3 or 4 lookers per week and am encouraged by that. I am only 2 months into itso I think / hope there is time. Maybe when school starts up again there will be more lookers (especially for the tutoring part). I take heart in all the success storiesso please keep them coming! :-) Mike Liza Loop wrote: Hello Jimmy, Our biggest challenge has been letting people know our coworking site is available. Neither I nor my partner are natural publicists. After watching these postings for about 6 months I'm beginning to believe this is a common but
[Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking
Liza: You might want to eliminate the construction on your site (your website looks like you aren't operating a real business): http://www.fiberhigh.com/underconstruction.php I'll be you loose more prospects from that one omission (two actually) than everything else combined. Where are photos of your space on your space? If I want to look at a space I really want to see it. Maybe even get one of those real estate virtual tours to show off your space (google virtual tour software) Rather than renting cubes or carrels for $450/$265 have you considered renting (what I call) floater access for $149? That would be access to the space and to tables but with no assigned space just like a health club. You might find a lot more people willing to pay $149 than $450/$265 and you can optimize the use of space better that way. I could be wrong but I don't think your time metered plans are good. People want to have to worry about how much time they are using; there is too much cognitive dissonance when they have to decide to spend money. Better to have one all-you-can-use rate and maybe a 5-days-a- month rate. Contact the organizers of these groups, see if they will hold meetings at your space (offer the meeting space for free; you are doing this for marketing, not for revenue): http://www.meetup.com/cities/us/ca/palo_alto/groups/technology/?radius=10.0 I could be wrong but I would expect hosting NetSquared wouldn't really be helpful. They are about non-profits who typically have no money to spend on $450/mon coworking spaces. All that said, I could be wrong on all this so JMTCW. -Mike Schinkel Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking http://ignitionalley.com On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Liza Loop wrote: Thanks for your ideas, Mike and Jimmy. Yes I have tried Meet-ups. I'm not any better at publicizing them than I am at promoting Fiber High as a whole. Participating in this group is another strategy I'm using although it may be preaching to the choir. Several people have told me that repetition is key to getting traffic through the space. I interpret that to mean don't give up! We held a Free Up 'n Down Load-a-thon on Tuesday and only 2 new people showed up so we're trying it again on Tuesday, July 28th (my 64th birthday!). So send your friends around to this event as a birthday present to me. I'm also looking at hosting a NetSquared Tuesday Meeting (http://groups.drupal.org/node/4385) that same evening. Keep the ideas coming. We never know which one will turn the trick. Liza On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Mike Pihlmanm...@telbitconsulting.com wrote: Mike: Thats is a great idea. Thanks. :-) Liza: That is why I started tutoring now that I am a real teacher. 5 students (I have 1 and it's summer) and 5 coworkers (I have 3) and I'm breaking even. Tracy is low cost compared to your location, I'm sure. With all your BWI will talk to you off-line about some ideas. Mike --- On Thu, 7/9/09, mikeschin...@newclarity.net mikeschin...@newclarity.net wrote: From: mikeschin...@newclarity.net mikeschin...@newclarity.net Subject: [Coworking] Re: Introduction/Mobile Coworking To: coworking@googlegroups.com coworking@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 7:27 PM Have you contacted local organizers on Meetup.com and offered them to hold their meetups in your facility for free in the evenings? This could get a lot of traffic through your space. If there are not local meetups for your target demographic consider organizing them yourself. JMTCW. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Liza Loop lizal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, We're having the same problem. Our location is in a light industrial area, off the beaten path for pedestrians. It's ideal for quiet cubicle residents but since the bottom has fallen out of the office market folks can get an enclosed office for what we have to charge for a cubicle. We thought our fiber optic connectivity and collocation facility would be a sufficient draw for people who need a big web pipe but so far our expectations haven't been realized. The tenants we do have are struggling as much as we are. Lookers are great but they don't pay the bills. 3 or 4 who don't actually join the club are tantalizing. We can survive for another couple of months but without some serious support it will be curtains for Fiber High. Our other IT business, GoQuiet, has been subsidizing Fiber High for almost a year and we're getting very hungry. We're trying out a series of free Up 'n Down Load-a-thons to give folks a free taste of our high speed network (the next one is July 28th, 3-11 pm). Hopefully it will be addictive. But we're not waiting for miracles. Rather, we're exploring other business models to provide additional income. Any suggestions are more than welcome. I hope that we haven't created a co-working bubble by sharing our