[Coworking] Re: Introducing myself
Muchas gracias por los ofrecimientos. Vamos detrás de este tema ya algún tiempo y vamos a ver si nos animamos del todo. Hemos visitado algunos centros en el extranjero pero queremos hacer una ruta por algunos de España. Iremos informando y, por supuesto, dentro de lo que podamos ayudar también podéis contar con nosotros. Saludos. On 28 mar, 21:06, Rosa Montesa montesa.r...@gmail.com wrote: Hola Israel, Soy Rosa de Coworkingvalencia, Todavía me falta un poco para abrir, pero me gusta saber que ya me encuentra la gente interesada en coworking por estos lugares. Creo soy la que más cerca te pilla, pero desde luego, no pienso que sea lo que mejor te acomode. Si vienes por Valencia algún día a trabajar, no dudes en venir a cotrabajar a mi espacio. Un saludo, Rosa 2010/3/28 basterrak imartinez.c...@gmail.com Hello. I'm Israel Martínez from Elche (Spain). I work like design and advertising freelance and me and a freelance friend are looking for a sustainable cowork center in our city. An important local business man will colaborate with us because both three believe in this new trendy idea. We think our main problem is the size of the city because in Madrid, Barcelona, Bilbao Valencia the cowork centers work very well. This is the reason why we want to adapt the cowork soul to and middle-sized city but with international airport, 200.000 population (nice population for Spain-Europe), two universities and an insustrial park. I will understand completely the coworking world thanks to this group. Every help you can offer me will be nice. PS: The main cowork centers in Spain are: http://garage30.com/ http://www.torre11.com/web/ http://www.enmedio.info/coworking/ http://www.coworkasturias.com/ http://coworkingvalencia.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Space Opportunity
David, We were in this exact situation. We were meeting for regular Jelly's, and I ran into the owner of a local interactive agency. He said he was willing to offer his excess office space for coworking, if members paid a low ($10) drop-in rate (all of it goes towards to the owner). It has worked out well for both sides. He gets something in return for his unused space. We get a beautiful space to work in. We have 4-6 people who work 2-3 days a week here now. But we have run into limitations. For example, he had some restrictions on signange and restrictions on 24x7 access, e.g. local user groups meeting in the evenings. That is all fine, after all it is his building. It just means it's time for us to get our own space, which we are in the process of doing. The owner is a good guy, and is pretty in tune with what we are trying to do, he just has his own expenses, which is understandable. So my advice would be to go ahead and do it in order to build momentum. Hopefully their attitudes are aligned with yours. Know that eventually you'll probably want a space of your own if you want to see this thru. Gerard Sychay http://www.cincycoworks.com On Mar 26, 9:37 am, CoWorker da...@visitgmd.com wrote: Fellow co-workers, I'm in the throws of opening a space and have been knocking around this group for a while now. I've looked at prospective buildings, done some community building and created a website for people to register their interest. Recently, I was approached by a respected local design agency with a potential offer to share their existing office. It sounds like an interesting idea but I'm concerned that it might feel like we are just 'lodging' in their vacant desks, as opposed to creating and nurturing an independent movement where the core values are collaboration, openness, community, accessibility and sustainability. Has anyone here found themselves in a similar position and if so, were you able to find any middle ground? Am I being over protective of the co-working ethos? Maybe this is a good thing to be closely linked with a respected and long standing agency. Any thoughts on this would be very welcome. David. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] introducing myself and ... coworking camp
Hello world, coworking people! I'm Angelo, from Italy, Milan. I work with Massimo Carraro in the core of Coworking Project (http:// coworkingproject.com), italian largest coworking network. Until today I've been only a passive follower of this group, but now it's time to change! We are working on the organisation of Coworking Camp 2010, the barcamp focused on coworking, here in Milan during the Design week (April, 14-19). If you are interested, take a look here: http://coworkingfuorisalone.wordpress.com http://barcamp.org/coworkingcamp2010 and fell free to contact me ;-) have a nice day! Angelo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Tangential Survey by me!
Heya! So...I was really curious about some assumptions that I was making...namely that people care more about sharing than they do privacy (in my network anyway), but there are some trigger issues. So, after grad student Cindy Kelly sent me an awesome survey of her own for her studies ( http://bit.ly/10minSurvey) I was inspired to put together my own to test my assumptions: Survey: Why Do You Share? http://bit.ly/cbrkBo I thought it's tangentially related to coworking as, well, we are all about sharing! AND this survey focuses on Geo-location, which is also appropriate. It's kind of fun and definitely pretty fast...and I already have 675 respondents! I'm shooting for 1000...then the data will be nice and rich. Please participate (unless I've already hit you up) and pass along! T p.s. I WILL be sharing the results as a report, raw data and in future presentations. It will be under a CC-license. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Company: Shwowp (http://www.shwowp.com) Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Coworking CoworkingCamp2010 @ Milano Design Week
Like I needed an excuse to go to Italy...I wish I had more notice I'd totally be there!! /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:50 AM, angelo bermani ang...@monkeybusinessmilano.it wrote: *Milano Design Week: discovering the coworking energy!* *Free working spaces to all nomad workers for the Salone days (14-19 april)* *and a Barcamp (17 april) to check the coworking state-of-the-art in Italy * - What happens if an enlightened designer decides to brighten up the office furniture scenario? - What happens if a group of talented professionals from different backgrounds decide that it’s time to use workspaces differently? - And what if the aforementioned two find a physical space just perfect to interpret working hours as a platform for work/network/events? *Coworking Fuorisalone *is what happens. Open only during the Salone del Mobile days (april 14-19), in the premises of Coworking Fuorisalone it will be *possible for anyone to just walk in, sit down and work as long as needed*,* with no charge**.* Wi-fi connection, furniture and assistance will be provided by Coworking Fuorisalone in order to introduce a new concept of service attitude, even before any sale can be even considered. The coworking know-how, as well the specific on-site presence in the space, will be granted by Cowo®, the network that counts 34 coworking spaces in 17 Italian cities. *A Coworking Camp will also take place at Coworking Fuorisalone, on Saturday april 17th*. Speeches will be held, among the others, by: - Massimo Carraro, Cowo network founder - Michele Vianello, general manager of Parco Scientifico Tecnologico VEGA/Venezia - Nicolò Borghi, partner The Hub - Nicola Zago, marketing manager Lago spa *Info:* *Massimo Carraro (Cowo)* - 02.215.1581 – 334.893.6110* **http://barcamp.org/CoworkingCamp2010* http://tinyurl.com/y8f839n *Coworking Fuorisalone **http://www.coworkingfuorisalone.wordpress.com* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Things You Miss @ Coworking Spaces
Hi Tara, We have that :) Felicity CubesCrayons On Mar 28, 9:30 am, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: Nap room. The ability to wear your pajamas all day. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 PM, workomania office.bu...@wbac-berlin.dewrote: What do you miss in your coworking space? We are interested in offering one of the best coworking spaces, so we are always interested in your ideas and advise what you find a good coworking space needs or should offer. Thank you all for your support... Michael Bachmann -http://www.cluboffice-berlin.de -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Company: Shwowp (http://www.shwowp.com) Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Coworking CoworkingCamp2010 @ Milano Design Week
I'd love to go too but this overlaps with a trip I'm already taking to Mexico. Take some videos and make a fun presentation and I'll enjoy it all when I get back. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote: Like I needed an excuse to go to Italy...I wish I had more notice I'd totally be there!! /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:50 AM, angelo bermani ang...@monkeybusinessmilano.it wrote: *Milano Design Week: discovering the coworking energy!* *Free working spaces to all nomad workers for the Salone days (14-19 april)* *and a Barcamp (17 april) to check the coworking state-of-the-art in Italy* - What happens if an enlightened designer decides to brighten up the office furniture scenario? - What happens if a group of talented professionals from different backgrounds decide that it’s time to use workspaces differently? - And what if the aforementioned two find a physical space just perfect to interpret working hours as a platform for work/network/events? *Coworking Fuorisalone *is what happens. Open only during the Salone del Mobile days (april 14-19), in the premises of Coworking Fuorisalone it will be *possible for anyone to just walk in, sit down and work as long as needed*,* with no charge**.* Wi-fi connection, furniture and assistance will be provided by Coworking Fuorisalone in order to introduce a new concept of service attitude, even before any sale can be even considered. The coworking know-how, as well the specific on-site presence in the space, will be granted by Cowo®, the network that counts 34 coworking spaces in 17 Italian cities. *A Coworking Camp will also take place at Coworking Fuorisalone, on Saturday april 17th*. Speeches will be held, among the others, by: - Massimo Carraro, Cowo network founder - Michele Vianello, general manager of Parco Scientifico Tecnologico VEGA/Venezia - Nicolò Borghi, partner The Hub - Nicola Zago, marketing manager Lago spa *Info:* *Massimo Carraro (Cowo)* - 02.215.1581 – 334.893.6110* **http://barcamp.org/CoworkingCamp2010* http://tinyurl.com/y8f839n *Coworking Fuorisalone **http://www.coworkingfuorisalone.wordpress.com* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Things You Miss @ Coworking Spaces
Us too...remember average age here = 49. :-) On 3/29/2010 9:53 AM, felicity at cubes wrote: Hi Tara, We have that :) Felicity CubesCrayons On Mar 28, 9:30 am, Tara Hunthorsepig...@gmail.com wrote: Nap room. The ability to wear your pajamas all day. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 PM, workomaniaoffice.bu...@wbac-berlin.dewrote: What do you miss in your coworking space? We are interested in offering one of the best coworking spaces, so we are always interested in your ideas and advise what you find a good coworking space needs or should offer. Thank you all for your support... Michael Bachmann -http://www.cluboffice-berlin.de -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Company: Shwowp (http://www.shwowp.com) Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- Mike Pihlman AltamontCowork 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 205 Tracy, CA 95376 Phone: 209-757-8862 Web: AltamontCowork.com Twitter: @AltamontCowork -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Tangential Survey by me!
Just curious... will there be a cost associated with your CC License on the data? Is so, how much will it be to access the data that you are getting from the group? And, for those of you out there (like I was this am) who are wondering what a CC license is it is called Creative Commons and works in conjuncture with CP.. a link for more background is provided below via one of my legal members(just mention bc I don't know much about the link / blog etc. and fig we didnt need a whole legal lesson in the thread) http://danheller.blogspot.com/2008/01/gaming-creative-commons-for-profit.html Thanks, Danielle Nicoli WHERE:MMM Coworking in LA On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: Heya! So...I was really curious about some assumptions that I was making...namely that people care more about sharing than they do privacy (in my network anyway), but there are some trigger issues. So, after grad student Cindy Kelly sent me an awesome survey of her own for her studies ( http://bit.ly/10minSurvey) I was inspired to put together my own to test my assumptions: Survey: Why Do You Share? http://bit.ly/cbrkBo I thought it's tangentially related to coworking as, well, we are all about sharing! AND this survey focuses on Geo-location, which is also appropriate. It's kind of fun and definitely pretty fast...and I already have 675 respondents! I'm shooting for 1000...then the data will be nice and rich. Please participate (unless I've already hit you up) and pass along! T p.s. I WILL be sharing the results as a report, raw data and in future presentations. It will be under a CC-license. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Company: Shwowp (http://www.shwowp.com) Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Tangential Survey by me!
This is really a cool new tool to use by the way... maybe a way for each of us to use within our local communities to gather and then share in a large google doc cloud computing format? ie. in conjunction with the regional cllaboration/ alliances being formed out there? The form that Tara provides from Cindy is a survey where you can quickly create your own. If you don't have time for the survey here is the link that pops up at the end and gives you the option to make your own. http://sites.google.com/site/twittersurveywsu/2010 Danielle Nicoli On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: Heya! So...I was really curious about some assumptions that I was making...namely that people care more about sharing than they do privacy (in my network anyway), but there are some trigger issues. So, after grad student Cindy Kelly sent me an awesome survey of her own for her studies ( http://bit.ly/10minSurvey) I was inspired to put together my own to test my assumptions: Survey: Why Do You Share? http://bit.ly/cbrkBo I thought it's tangentially related to coworking as, well, we are all about sharing! AND this survey focuses on Geo-location, which is also appropriate. It's kind of fun and definitely pretty fast...and I already have 675 respondents! I'm shooting for 1000...then the data will be nice and rich. Please participate (unless I've already hit you up) and pass along! T p.s. I WILL be sharing the results as a report, raw data and in future presentations. It will be under a CC-license. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Company: Shwowp (http://www.shwowp.com) Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Tangential Survey by me!
I'll be giving it away. 100%. Just attribution. :) typed choppily on my Nexus One On Mar 29, 2010 2:25 PM, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious... will there be a cost associated with your CC License on the data? Is so, how much will it be to access the data that you are getting from the group? And, for those of you out there (like I was this am) who are wondering what a CC license is it is called Creative Commons and works in conjuncture with CP.. a link for more background is provided below via one of my legal members(just mention bc I don't know much about the link / blog etc. and fig we didnt need a whole legal lesson in the thread) http://danheller.blogspot.com/2008/01/gaming-creative-commons-for-profit.html Thanks, Danielle Nicoli WHERE:MMM Coworking in LA On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: Heya! So...I was really curious about some assumptions that I was making...namely that peopl... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Things You Miss @ Coworking Spaces
We do too. Complete with blankets and pillows even. Plus, I like to give people the option to come read or watch their favorite movie when then need to just take a break and chill out from the world. Danielle Nicoli WHERE:MMM On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Mike Pihlman m...@telbitconsulting.comwrote: Us too...remember average age here = 49. :-) On 3/29/2010 9:53 AM, felicity at cubes wrote: Hi Tara, We have that :) Felicity CubesCrayons On Mar 28, 9:30 am, Tara Hunthorsepig...@gmail.com wrote: Nap room. The ability to wear your pajamas all day. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 PM, workomaniaoffice.bu...@wbac-berlin.de wrote: What do you miss in your coworking space? We are interested in offering one of the best coworking spaces, so we are always interested in your ideas and advise what you find a good coworking space needs or should offer. Thank you all for your support... Michael Bachmann -http://www.cluboffice-berlin.de -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com coworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Company: Shwowp (http://www.shwowp.com) Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- Mike Pihlman AltamontCowork 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 205 Tracy, CA 95376 Phone: 209-757-8862 Web: AltamontCowork.com Twitter: @AltamontCowork -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Improving the Google Group
I just randomly found this conversation through looking around in a wandering manner through the google group. The reason I was wandering is because I wanted to see if I had received any more responses to my post from a week or two ago. It took me a while to even FIND my post. Which tells me that no one else would truly be motivated enough to go find it to reply to it. It seems it is very quickly lost in the black hole of discussion - type communication ... similar to THIS discussion, it seems, since the last post was Feb. 16, and I just HAPPENED to find this discussion only because I chanced upon it. From a new user's perspective, if I want to spend some kind of initial time researching as much as I can in any organized way, forums are much better at providing that then this discussion format. I understand people want to be able to be active via email without hindrance (i.e. being forced to go to the discussion or forum page to interact with it). I also understand google groups is already used En Masse and it might be unrealistic to get similar participation and membership results from going somewhere else. It's definitely a bit of a dilemma. Can we give google any feedback requesting that they add a forum feature to their group functions? I'm surprised they don't offer it already ... Has this discussion gone anywhere since Feb. 16 that I'm unaware of? Thanks! Ryan On Feb 16, 11:15 am, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: Jumping in... Three communities vibrant on google groups Two of them moved to better systems Only one vibrant community left Google groups may suck at some stuff, but it works. Please don't break it. Tara On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Dhan aravindhan.vijayaragha...@gmail.comwrote: You raise very valid concerns John Sechrest. @ Zoho Discussions we had this in mind when we developed the product. Apart from the web based access, we have active bi-directional emailing too. Of course, you are welcome to give Zoho Discussions a spin and come back with comments - for I am sure your feedback will only help improve the product. Regards Dhan Zoho Discussions On Feb 9, 10:46 pm, John Sechrest sechr...@gmail.com wrote: The difference between mailing lists and forums is much more complex and much more subtle that you are outlining here. I have seen several efforts to move to forums blow up discussions. In addition, I have also seen moves like this end up translating into a biforcation of the conversation into two different groups. The choice of how you view data is a critical one. And I totally agree about the need for a tool that helps you focus your attention well. For me, google groups + gmail does this well. In general, I have yet to meet a forum that I like. Web based forums hide information and make it harder for me to find things. I find this especially true of forum sites like NING. (pet peave) I do not know how zoho forums work, having never used them. For me, I am immediately suspicious when I see the word forum. Since forums usually take me more time to process, take more energy to keep in context. I suspect it is an information processing style issue, since these are the very issues you are trying to address. I would just urge caution. A shift like this from google groups to zoho forums is likely to quietly and subtly alter who is participating, and who stays connected to the group. I have watched other groups have a significant shift of membership with tool changes like this. Be sure you are getting what you think you are getting. And be sure you know which audience you are serving with the change. On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote: So, Woody just suggested that an active thread be moved out of the main channel so as to not disrupt others. While I think it was a good topic to keep in the group's visibility, his question of can I move this to a sub folder reminded me of something. Google Groups kinda sucks. To be fair, it's become our home. This is the most active repository of information for coworking, and the place where I send people first to learn more and meet more coworking people. But the Google Group is anything but good for discovery. Spam moderation is chaos for the people who actively manage it. The lack of sub-threads is annoying, and the lack of message context makes it hard to know what messages to pay attention to. Recently, the open source javascript library jQuery moved away from Google Groups for a lot of these same reasons...to Zoho forums. I did some research and found that a Zoho forum to support our group would cost $75/month, and incur a one-time $500 fee to migrate all of the existing data (messages, threads, and even users) from Google Groups to Zoho. There's even an
Re: [Coworking] Re: Improving the Google Group
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Eastlake r...@shamrockdesign.com wrote: Can we give google any feedback requesting that they add a forum feature to their group functions? I'm surprised they don't offer it already ... Has this discussion gone anywhere since Feb. 16 that I'm unaware of? Just curious -- why would you think there was activity on this thread that doesn't appear in the group message listing? -- Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com twitter: @hassan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Things You Miss @ Coworking Spaces
We actually had to start a nap schedule because we were running out of couches. :) /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:38 AM, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: We do too. Complete with blankets and pillows even. Plus, I like to give people the option to come read or watch their favorite movie when then need to just take a break and chill out from the world. Danielle Nicoli WHERE:MMM On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Mike Pihlman m...@telbitconsulting.comwrote: Us too...remember average age here = 49. :-) On 3/29/2010 9:53 AM, felicity at cubes wrote: Hi Tara, We have that :) Felicity CubesCrayons On Mar 28, 9:30 am, Tara Hunthorsepig...@gmail.com wrote: Nap room. The ability to wear your pajamas all day. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:21 PM, workomania office.bu...@wbac-berlin.dewrote: What do you miss in your coworking space? We are interested in offering one of the best coworking spaces, so we are always interested in your ideas and advise what you find a good coworking space needs or should offer. Thank you all for your support... Michael Bachmann -http://www.cluboffice-berlin.de -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com coworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Company: Shwowp (http://www.shwowp.com) Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- Mike Pihlman AltamontCowork 95 W. 11th Street, Suite 205 Tracy, CA 95376 Phone: 209-757-8862 Web: AltamontCowork.com Twitter: @AltamontCowork -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Improving the Google Group
Well, I'm a bit of a rookie here, so take this with a grain of salt, but here's where my impression comes from: First, I chose not to get emails from the group ... the last thing I need are more emails that I have to wade through. So I come to the group site to check things out when I want to, but otherwise leave everything there. That being said, this thread got 11 responses the same day it was posted, and then 7 more the next day. That was Feb. 9 and Feb. 10. Since then, there was only one more post on Feb. 16 until I (and you) posted to it today. So, you have to admit, after two days of a lot of interest, it appears now that this post is old news and I just wasn't sure if the topic was now dead or not. For all I know, someone else may have started a new thread that relates to the topic, but I wouldn't have seen that thread. My experience with forums is that you don't lose these kinds of conversations this way ... a new post puts the thread back at the top, and there's an organized way to look through topics, which is a great way to research. This seems particularly helpful to new people (like myself) so we can get up to speed much quicker, and participate in a more relevant way. If I can read up on beginner topics, then I don't have to ask the same questions everyone before me asked. If I want to spend more time researching anything more in depth, I can get up to speed with everyone else so far on the topic within a day or two (or maybe even just an hour or two). Also, when I recently posted some questions, I only got one posted response, and now my thread has been pushed down to irrelevancy ... very quickly, it seems. I appreciate and respect that this discussion format through email allows people more of an instant conversation with eachother on a topic, but I just wish it were categorized and organized a little better so each thread would remain relevant longer and I could more easily find and read what I want to. Again, I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds on the issue, as I am still a newbie to the group and to coworking in general ... On Mar 29, 11:37 am, Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Eastlake r...@shamrockdesign.com wrote: Can we give google any feedback requesting that they add a forum feature to their group functions? I'm surprised they don't offer it already ... Has this discussion gone anywhere since Feb. 16 that I'm unaware of? Just curious -- why would you think there was activity on this thread that doesn't appear in the group message listing? -- Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com twitter: @hassan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Improving the Google Group
I've said it before and I'll say it again: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I've been the admin for at least 50 Groups over the past 5 years. The 10 groups that made the decision to move to wikis, forums, Tangler (which is a chatty forum), Skype rooms and other things died. Died. 100%. No more group. What was once a lively conversation in the (admittedly imperfect) Google Group is history. There is something about Google Groups that persists. Don't know what it is. Sure, the interface is crap. People repeat the same darned questions over and over. But we keep talking. And gathering people. And starting threads. Not saying there isn't something better out there...just that better isn't always better. T p.s. this is coming from someone who hates routine, loves change and embraces chaos for a living. I just don't want our beautiful group to die like those that went before this...heart breaking. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Eastlake r...@shamrockdesign.com wrote: Well, I'm a bit of a rookie here, so take this with a grain of salt, but here's where my impression comes from: First, I chose not to get emails from the group ... the last thing I need are more emails that I have to wade through. So I come to the group site to check things out when I want to, but otherwise leave everything there. That being said, this thread got 11 responses the same day it was posted, and then 7 more the next day. That was Feb. 9 and Feb. 10. Since then, there was only one more post on Feb. 16 until I (and you) posted to it today. So, you have to admit, after two days of a lot of interest, it appears now that this post is old news and I just wasn't sure if the topic was now dead or not. For all I know, someone else may have started a new thread that relates to the topic, but I wouldn't have seen that thread. My experience with forums is that you don't lose these kinds of conversations this way ... a new post puts the thread back at the top, and there's an organized way to look through topics, which is a great way to research. This seems particularly helpful to new people (like myself) so we can get up to speed much quicker, and participate in a more relevant way. If I can read up on beginner topics, then I don't have to ask the same questions everyone before me asked. If I want to spend more time researching anything more in depth, I can get up to speed with everyone else so far on the topic within a day or two (or maybe even just an hour or two). Also, when I recently posted some questions, I only got one posted response, and now my thread has been pushed down to irrelevancy ... very quickly, it seems. I appreciate and respect that this discussion format through email allows people more of an instant conversation with eachother on a topic, but I just wish it were categorized and organized a little better so each thread would remain relevant longer and I could more easily find and read what I want to. Again, I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds on the issue, as I am still a newbie to the group and to coworking in general ... On Mar 29, 11:37 am, Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Eastlake r...@shamrockdesign.com wrote: Can we give google any feedback requesting that they add a forum feature to their group functions? I'm surprised they don't offer it already ... Has this discussion gone anywhere since Feb. 16 that I'm unaware of? Just curious -- why would you think there was activity on this thread that doesn't appear in the group message listing? -- Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com twitter: @hassan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Company: Shwowp (http://www.shwowp.com) Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] New Coworking site in Bozeman
My name is Matt Helgeson, and I'm a student working in the Entrepreneurship program here at MSU. Right now I'm working with a company that's starting a coworking site in Bozeman, MT called Office Place. We're in the development stage and could really use some help and feedback. We got a survey up right now that should only take 5 minutes to complete. Survey link: http://survey.constantcontact.com/survey/a07e2smv716g6py2cdw/start. We also have a facebook fan page at: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bozeman-MT/Office-Place-MT/373560223710?ref=ts and a twitter account at: http://twitter.com/officeplaceMT Let us know if this is a service you could use. You can email us directly at i...@officeplacemt.com and get all these links on our webpage at http://officeplacemt.com. Thanks! Matt Helgeson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: Improving the Google Group
I agree. Google has the market place ... millions of people have gmail accounts, millions of people are part of google groups (and familiar with how they work), etc. etc. ... making it easier to join and build membership up to the 2500 that this group is currently at. It makes sense; the upsides of the success of membership building far outweigh the downsides of how communication threads are organized. Personally, I'm not advocating changing from google to anything else. But, Google is a big, smart company ... they ought to be able to add forum options to their google groups. Maybe it's a long shot, and maybe it would take a lot of other groups asking for the same functionality, but is there a way that we can give them feedback saying that we'd love it if they would consider adding forum options to their groups? I'd be happy with that. Thanks for humoring me! On Mar 29, 3:30 pm, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I've been the admin for at least 50 Groups over the past 5 years. The 10 groups that made the decision to move to wikis, forums, Tangler (which is a chatty forum), Skype rooms and other things died. Died. 100%. No more group. What was once a lively conversation in the (admittedly imperfect) Google Group is history. There is something about Google Groups that persists. Don't know what it is. Sure, the interface is crap. People repeat the same darned questions over and over. But we keep talking. And gathering people. And starting threads. Not saying there isn't something better out there...just that better isn't always better. T p.s. this is coming from someone who hates routine, loves change and embraces chaos for a living. I just don't want our beautiful group to die like those that went before this...heart breaking. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Eastlake r...@shamrockdesign.com wrote: Well, I'm a bit of a rookie here, so take this with a grain of salt, but here's where my impression comes from: First, I chose not to get emails from the group ... the last thing I need are more emails that I have to wade through. So I come to the group site to check things out when I want to, but otherwise leave everything there. That being said, this thread got 11 responses the same day it was posted, and then 7 more the next day. That was Feb. 9 and Feb. 10. Since then, there was only one more post on Feb. 16 until I (and you) posted to it today. So, you have to admit, after two days of a lot of interest, it appears now that this post is old news and I just wasn't sure if the topic was now dead or not. For all I know, someone else may have started a new thread that relates to the topic, but I wouldn't have seen that thread. My experience with forums is that you don't lose these kinds of conversations this way ... a new post puts the thread back at the top, and there's an organized way to look through topics, which is a great way to research. This seems particularly helpful to new people (like myself) so we can get up to speed much quicker, and participate in a more relevant way. If I can read up on beginner topics, then I don't have to ask the same questions everyone before me asked. If I want to spend more time researching anything more in depth, I can get up to speed with everyone else so far on the topic within a day or two (or maybe even just an hour or two). Also, when I recently posted some questions, I only got one posted response, and now my thread has been pushed down to irrelevancy ... very quickly, it seems. I appreciate and respect that this discussion format through email allows people more of an instant conversation with eachother on a topic, but I just wish it were categorized and organized a little better so each thread would remain relevant longer and I could more easily find and read what I want to. Again, I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds on the issue, as I am still a newbie to the group and to coworking in general ... On Mar 29, 11:37 am, Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Eastlake r...@shamrockdesign.com wrote: Can we give google any feedback requesting that they add a forum feature to their group functions? I'm surprised they don't offer it already ... Has this discussion gone anywhere since Feb. 16 that I'm unaware of? Just curious -- why would you think there was activity on this thread that doesn't appear in the group message listing? -- Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com twitter: @hassan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [Coworking] Re: Improving the Google Group
As I am sure that someone out there can submit a list of functionality to Google... I would like to start off with asking for an easy translation function embedded into the threads so that more people can collaborate seamlessly. I know that you can cut and paste but having a translation that other people can help add meaning right there (in the stream of the conversation) would be helpful. Danielle Nicoli WHERE:MMM Coworking in LA Personally, I'm not advocating changing from google to anything else. But, Google is a big, smart company ... they ought to be able to add forum options to their google groups. Maybe it's a long shot, and maybe it would take a lot of other groups asking for the same functionality, but is there a way that we can give them feedback saying that we'd love it if they would consider adding forum options to their groups? I'd be happy with that. Thanks for humoring me! On Mar 29, 3:30 pm, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I've been the admin for at least 50 Groups over the past 5 years. The 10 groups that made the decision to move to wikis, forums, Tangler (which is a chatty forum), Skype rooms and other things died. Died. 100%. No more group. What was once a lively conversation in the (admittedly imperfect) Google Group is history. There is something about Google Groups that persists. Don't know what it is. Sure, the interface is crap. People repeat the same darned questions over and over. But we keep talking. And gathering people. And starting threads. Not saying there isn't something better out there...just that better isn't always better. T p.s. this is coming from someone who hates routine, loves change and embraces chaos for a living. I just don't want our beautiful group to die like those that went before this...heart breaking. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Eastlake r...@shamrockdesign.com wrote: Well, I'm a bit of a rookie here, so take this with a grain of salt, but here's where my impression comes from: First, I chose not to get emails from the group ... the last thing I need are more emails that I have to wade through. So I come to the group site to check things out when I want to, but otherwise leave everything there. That being said, this thread got 11 responses the same day it was posted, and then 7 more the next day. That was Feb. 9 and Feb. 10. Since then, there was only one more post on Feb. 16 until I (and you) posted to it today. So, you have to admit, after two days of a lot of interest, it appears now that this post is old news and I just wasn't sure if the topic was now dead or not. For all I know, someone else may have started a new thread that relates to the topic, but I wouldn't have seen that thread. My experience with forums is that you don't lose these kinds of conversations this way ... a new post puts the thread back at the top, and there's an organized way to look through topics, which is a great way to research. This seems particularly helpful to new people (like myself) so we can get up to speed much quicker, and participate in a more relevant way. If I can read up on beginner topics, then I don't have to ask the same questions everyone before me asked. If I want to spend more time researching anything more in depth, I can get up to speed with everyone else so far on the topic within a day or two (or maybe even just an hour or two). Also, when I recently posted some questions, I only got one posted response, and now my thread has been pushed down to irrelevancy ... very quickly, it seems. I appreciate and respect that this discussion format through email allows people more of an instant conversation with eachother on a topic, but I just wish it were categorized and organized a little better so each thread would remain relevant longer and I could more easily find and read what I want to. Again, I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds on the issue, as I am still a newbie to the group and to coworking in general ... On Mar 29, 11:37 am, Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Eastlake r...@shamrockdesign.com wrote: Can we give google any feedback requesting that they add a forum feature to their group functions? I'm surprised they don't offer it already ... Has this discussion gone anywhere since Feb. 16 that I'm unaware of? Just curious -- why would you think there was activity on this thread that doesn't appear in the group message listing? -- Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com twitter: @hassan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to
