[Coworking] Re: Furniture - Any recommendations on sourcing?
We are about to start a small co-working space in Las Vegas and will be purchasing Knoll Antenna product, it is quite a bit more than ikea (not as much as people think) but looks awsome and it has a life-time warranty. On Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:28:26 AM UTC-7, Katy Moses Huggins wrote: Hi All! I'm new to the group as of yesterday and love the amount of great info and sharing in this group. I'm in the process of building out a coworking space at the moment and am researching options for furniture. I've been looking into all the secondhand stores, but everything seems pretty junky and I'd like to have the space be fresh, bright and clean (no old lacquer finish chipping off on our forearms, please!). Have any of you been able to make connections with someone who will sell desks, chairs at wholesale? Any other recommendations? Thanks! www.CoworkEvergreen.com -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Re: Who's shopping for electronic door locks?
Kevo looks great! thanks for sharing. Have you found any additional information or reviews? On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:49:10 PM UTC-7, Andy Soell wrote: Love all these reviews, thanks for all the guidance everyone! Does anyone have any experience with a newer Bluetooth-enabled locked called Kevo? Works with iOS devices, and also supports key fobs for users with other mobile phone platforms. http://www.kwikset.com/Kevo/ Looks promising, but I'm always a little wary of newer, untested products. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] New cowork community in Williamson County Texas (serving Round Rock, Georgetown, etc...)
I started a new cowork community in Williamson County Texas (serving Round Rock, Georgetown, Cedar Park, Leander, Hutto, Pfluggerville, and Taylor). We host events (via MeetUps http://www.meetup.com/Williamson-County-Coworking/files/) at TechShop in Round Rock. The next ones are 7.16, 21, 24, 29 and August 1st, 9:30 to 12:30. I hope by August there is a solid group of members for a regular schedule. There is no fee to attend. There have been fits and starts to coworking in Williamson County. There was a jelly (2010-2012?) that ended right before I arrived in 2012. 'People say' that coworking doesn't work here, but I feel there's a model that will work here. I'd love to open a brick/mortar site in 2015. Please join and help further coworking in WilCo. Jen @JLKready http:www.twitter.com/jlkready LinkedIn: Jennifer Kready http://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferkready/ -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Community Building
We are looking for some good ways that coworking spaces are creating a community atmopshere. Any ideas on events, projects or anything else that helps to integrate the community in coworking spaces would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance! -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Coworking Space New Zealand
If anyone is looking for a coworking space in New Zealand, here is a great list of spaces. http://www.sharedspace.co.nz/coworking-spaces.html Does anyone know of any other spaces that should be included on this list? -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Who's shopping for electronic door locks?
The one thing I would recommend, if you're looking at Kevo, is to make sure you understand how their ekey pricing model works. Unless I'm grossly misunderstanding, it looks like the way it works is that you have to pay for packs of virtual keys to give to people before they can unlock it with their phone. It seems a bit ridiculous to me that you have to pay for the hardware and then pay again for each user you want to be able to unlock the hardware. If you have a lot of members, the cost for the Kevo system could end up being quite a bit higher than expected if you were only looking at the cost of the hardware. On Jul 12, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Rachel Cline rclineconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Kevo looks great! thanks for sharing. Have you found any additional information or reviews? On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:49:10 PM UTC-7, Andy Soell wrote: Love all these reviews, thanks for all the guidance everyone! Does anyone have any experience with a newer Bluetooth-enabled locked called Kevo? Works with iOS devices, and also supports key fobs for users with other mobile phone platforms. http://www.kwikset.com/Kevo/ Looks promising, but I'm always a little wary of newer, untested products. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/LhlCVViGlfY/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Who's shopping for electronic door locks?
Good info, I saw the fobs cost about $25, I didn't notice you had to pay for each virtual key also. Rachel Cline 702-577-8627 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: The one thing I would recommend, if you’re looking at Kevo, is to make sure you understand how their “ekey” pricing model works. Unless I’m grossly misunderstanding, it looks like the way it works is that you have to pay for packs of virtual “keys” to give to people before they can unlock it with their phone. It seems a bit ridiculous to me that you have to pay for the hardware and then pay again for each user you want to be able to unlock the hardware. If you have a lot of members, the cost for the Kevo system could end up being quite a bit higher than expected if you were only looking at the cost of the hardware. On Jul 12, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Rachel Cline rclineconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Kevo looks great! thanks for sharing. Have you found any additional information or reviews? On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:49:10 PM UTC-7, Andy Soell wrote: Love all these reviews, thanks for all the guidance everyone! Does anyone have any experience with a newer Bluetooth-enabled locked called Kevo? Works with iOS devices, and also supports key fobs for users with other mobile phone platforms. http://www.kwikset.com/Kevo/ Looks promising, but I'm always a little wary of newer, untested products. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/LhlCVViGlfY/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/LhlCVViGlfY/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Who's shopping for electronic door locks?
Hi Everyone, I know this is a reoccurring subject, so I wanted to stress how much we LOVE Lockitron here at Citizen Space. The cost is very affordable for a small space, for larger spaces they have a ³commercial² version which we will have at Coworking Week next month. They don't charge any fees for ³keys² , so as a coworking space you don't need to worry about can you manager 10 members, or 2000. If your really interested in learning more some hands on time, come on down to SF for the Shared Economy Hackathon which is totally FREE sponsored by Lockitron Apigee. Register for FREE SF Coworking Week tickets sponsored by our latest sponsor: https://twitter.com/ECOsystmSF launching in SF during Coworking Week 2014. Get Tickets here: https://coworkingweek2014.eventbrite.com/ use code: #ecosystem If you are interested in hosting your own Coworking Week event, you can get all the info in this Google Group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/coworking/hnnHEnP0zHc Anyone interested in sponsoring, or speaking at the Unconference on Saturday, August 9th, please email e...@citizenspace.us , or call 415-501-9155 Kind regards, Toby -- Citizen Space Direct: 415-501-9155 Skype: citizenspace http://www.citizenspace.us Twitter: http://twitter.com/citizenspace Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/citizenspace A Nicer Place to Work On 7/14/14, 6:30 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: The one thing I would recommend, if you¹re looking at Kevo, is to make sure you understand how their ³ekey² pricing model works. Unless I¹m grossly misunderstanding, it looks like the way it works is that you have to pay for packs of virtual ³keys² to give to people before they can unlock it with their phone. It seems a bit ridiculous to me that you have to pay for the hardware and then pay again for each user you want to be able to unlock the hardware. If you have a lot of members, the cost for the Kevo system could end up being quite a bit higher than expected if you were only looking at the cost of the hardware. On Jul 12, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Rachel Cline rclineconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Kevo looks great! thanks for sharing. Have you found any additional information or reviews? On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:49:10 PM UTC-7, Andy Soell wrote: Love all these reviews, thanks for all the guidance everyone! Does anyone have any experience with a newer Bluetooth-enabled locked called Kevo? Works with iOS devices, and also supports key fobs for users with other mobile phone platforms. http://www.kwikset.com/Kevo/ Looks promising, but I'm always a little wary of newer, untested products. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Who's shopping for electronic door locks?
I'm down here in San Francisco now, knee deep in renovations for The Red Victorian http://www.redvic.com and working on their door lock solution. We don't want to use any smart phone systems (Kevo, Lockitron, August, etc) because we can't know for sure what kind of phone our guests will have, if they will even have phones, or if they are charged when they arrive. We want to go with a personalized key code that can be generated and emailed to them using the reservation system we built. For that we are hooking up the existing electric strike on the front gate to a raspberry pi and a wiegand keypad. The next bit of magic will be to hook up each room with a Kwikset SmartCode lock and push the generated code to the given room, and turn off the previous occupants code. The advantages of going with the Kwikset are that it can use the existing lock tumblers so we can keep the large amount of room keys we already have. Also at around $120-$150 the price is right for outfitting 20+ doors. People have been getting really excited about the idea of outfitting each door with a raspberry pi but by the time we get power, servos, and a durable enclosure hooked up it's going to be a lot more expensive. One pi at the front door calling all the shots is all we need. Of course I have to figure out how to send the key codes to each door so there is more RD needed. I'm also working to figure out the Wiegand protocol to hook up the keypad. If anyone has played with this, please reach out. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:34 AM, rachel cline rclineconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Good info, I saw the fobs cost about $25, I didn't notice you had to pay for each virtual key also. Rachel Cline 702-577-8627 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: The one thing I would recommend, if you’re looking at Kevo, is to make sure you understand how their “ekey” pricing model works. Unless I’m grossly misunderstanding, it looks like the way it works is that you have to pay for packs of virtual “keys” to give to people before they can unlock it with their phone. It seems a bit ridiculous to me that you have to pay for the hardware and *then* pay again for each user you want to be able to unlock the hardware. If you have a lot of members, the cost for the Kevo system could end up being quite a bit higher than expected if you were only looking at the cost of the hardware. On Jul 12, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Rachel Cline rclineconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Kevo looks great! thanks for sharing. Have you found any additional information or reviews? On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:49:10 PM UTC-7, Andy Soell wrote: Love all these reviews, thanks for all the guidance everyone! Does anyone have any experience with a newer Bluetooth-enabled locked called Kevo? Works with iOS devices, and also supports key fobs for users with other mobile phone platforms. http://www.kwikset.com/Kevo/ Looks promising, but I'm always a little wary of newer, untested products. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/LhlCVViGlfY/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/LhlCVViGlfY/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: Coworking Camp Turkey - looking for partners
Hello Matias Please drop us an email at mana...@citizenspace.us , we would love to chat about this initiative, and how we can support you! Thanks, Toby On Thursday, July 3, 2014 7:14:45 AM UTC-7, Matthias Zeitler wrote: Hi, I am involved with a project called Coworking Camp, where we aim to bring about 75 international startup entrepreneurs together in a temporary coworking space at a sunny location to network, learn, work and get inspired. We have recently completed the first trial in El Gouna, Egypt where we organized a week long event. Now we plan a 6 week camp in November/December in Turkey. But we also plan side trips to Istanbul and startup related events. More information about that is available here: https://www.facebook.com/COWORKINGCAMP https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FCOWORKINGCAMPsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFvBTrqg5tYdv-RdD1o2QzB7wmcoQ and on our website http://coworking.camp http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcoworking.campsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGUq9DA6ig2KZop34b6sSeNhTM5BQ We are looking for partners that can help us promote the event to the right people and that help us to create meaningful experiences during the camp. Please let me know if you are interested and I will get back to you with more specific information about the event. Cheers, Matthias -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Who's shopping for electronic door locks?
As long as we're back on electronic locks, we're looking for a good solution for our new location. The existing door is glass with a narrow stile http://www.customstorefronts.com/products/doors/aluminum/aluminum.htm frame that won't accommodate a standard deadbolt sized solution. If you search for door-code style locks for door like this on Amazon, you get a lot of results but none of them with enough purchases to figure out if they're good or not. Angel mentioned one earlier in this thread that would work, but it wasn't very favorably reviewed by her. Does anyone have any tips on a door code lock like this that they would recommend? I definitely want something with easily programmable codes we can give our members and not fobs or smartphone integration. andy On Monday, July 14, 2014 1:17:49 PM UTC-4, Jacob Sayles wrote: I'm down here in San Francisco now, knee deep in renovations for The Red Victorian http://www.redvic.com and working on their door lock solution. We don't want to use any smart phone systems (Kevo, Lockitron, August, etc) because we can't know for sure what kind of phone our guests will have, if they will even have phones, or if they are charged when they arrive. We want to go with a personalized key code that can be generated and emailed to them using the reservation system we built. For that we are hooking up the existing electric strike on the front gate to a raspberry pi and a wiegand keypad. The next bit of magic will be to hook up each room with a Kwikset SmartCode lock and push the generated code to the given room, and turn off the previous occupants code. The advantages of going with the Kwikset are that it can use the existing lock tumblers so we can keep the large amount of room keys we already have. Also at around $120-$150 the price is right for outfitting 20+ doors. People have been getting really excited about the idea of outfitting each door with a raspberry pi but by the time we get power, servos, and a durable enclosure hooked up it's going to be a lot more expensive. One pi at the front door calling all the shots is all we need. Of course I have to figure out how to send the key codes to each door so there is more RD needed. I'm also working to figure out the Wiegand protocol to hook up the keypad. If anyone has played with this, please reach out. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:34 AM, rachel cline rclineco...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Good info, I saw the fobs cost about $25, I didn't notice you had to pay for each virtual key also. Rachel Cline 702-577-8627 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The one thing I would recommend, if you’re looking at Kevo, is to make sure you understand how their “ekey” pricing model works. Unless I’m grossly misunderstanding, it looks like the way it works is that you have to pay for packs of virtual “keys” to give to people before they can unlock it with their phone. It seems a bit ridiculous to me that you have to pay for the hardware and *then* pay again for each user you want to be able to unlock the hardware. If you have a lot of members, the cost for the Kevo system could end up being quite a bit higher than expected if you were only looking at the cost of the hardware. On Jul 12, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Rachel Cline rclineco...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Kevo looks great! thanks for sharing. Have you found any additional information or reviews? On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:49:10 PM UTC-7, Andy Soell wrote: Love all these reviews, thanks for all the guidance everyone! Does anyone have any experience with a newer Bluetooth-enabled locked called Kevo? Works with iOS devices, and also supports key fobs for users with other mobile phone platforms. http://www.kwikset.com/Kevo/ Looks promising, but I'm always a little wary of newer, untested products. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/LhlCVViGlfY/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to coworking+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/LhlCVViGlfY/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to coworking+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit
Re: [Coworking] Who's shopping for electronic door locks?
For something like that Andy you probably want to focus on if the door jam can hold and electric strike. They are easier to deal with actually but residential products focus on the deadbolt because that is a standard residential doors. We have a lot more to work with in commercial spaces. As for codes vs RFID vs physical keys vs phones: It's important to understand the advantages and disadvantages each brings to the situation. The RedVic need codes we can email people like I described, but I'm generally against codes as they are too easy to copy, pass on, overhear, etc. Keys are too hard to revoke and change so at Office Nomads we go with RFID. Phone solutions I'm sure work great here in tech savvy San Francisco so I'm not surprised at all they work great for you Toby. I wonder how that would work even in Seattle and it makes me wonder what I would come up with if I looked at the phones of every member that had a key. We already have an RFID solution so that would mostly be academic. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: As long as we're back on electronic locks, we're looking for a good solution for our new location. The existing door is glass with a narrow stile http://www.customstorefronts.com/products/doors/aluminum/aluminum.htm frame that won't accommodate a standard deadbolt sized solution. If you search for door-code style locks for door like this on Amazon, you get a lot of results but none of them with enough purchases to figure out if they're good or not. Angel mentioned one earlier in this thread that would work, but it wasn't very favorably reviewed by her. Does anyone have any tips on a door code lock like this that they would recommend? I definitely want something with easily programmable codes we can give our members and not fobs or smartphone integration. andy On Monday, July 14, 2014 1:17:49 PM UTC-4, Jacob Sayles wrote: I'm down here in San Francisco now, knee deep in renovations for The Red Victorian http://www.redvic.com and working on their door lock solution. We don't want to use any smart phone systems (Kevo, Lockitron, August, etc) because we can't know for sure what kind of phone our guests will have, if they will even have phones, or if they are charged when they arrive. We want to go with a personalized key code that can be generated and emailed to them using the reservation system we built. For that we are hooking up the existing electric strike on the front gate to a raspberry pi and a wiegand keypad. The next bit of magic will be to hook up each room with a Kwikset SmartCode lock and push the generated code to the given room, and turn off the previous occupants code. The advantages of going with the Kwikset are that it can use the existing lock tumblers so we can keep the large amount of room keys we already have. Also at around $120-$150 the price is right for outfitting 20+ doors. People have been getting really excited about the idea of outfitting each door with a raspberry pi but by the time we get power, servos, and a durable enclosure hooked up it's going to be a lot more expensive. One pi at the front door calling all the shots is all we need. Of course I have to figure out how to send the key codes to each door so there is more RD needed. I'm also working to figure out the Wiegand protocol to hook up the keypad. If anyone has played with this, please reach out. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:34 AM, rachel cline rclineco...@gmail.com wrote: Good info, I saw the fobs cost about $25, I didn't notice you had to pay for each virtual key also. Rachel Cline 702-577-8627 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: The one thing I would recommend, if you’re looking at Kevo, is to make sure you understand how their “ekey” pricing model works. Unless I’m grossly misunderstanding, it looks like the way it works is that you have to pay for packs of virtual “keys” to give to people before they can unlock it with their phone. It seems a bit ridiculous to me that you have to pay for the hardware and *then* pay again for each user you want to be able to unlock the hardware. If you have a lot of members, the cost for the Kevo system could end up being quite a bit higher than expected if you were only looking at the cost of the hardware. On Jul 12, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Rachel Cline rclineco...@gmail.com wrote: Kevo looks great! thanks for sharing. Have you found any additional information or reviews? On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:49:10 PM UTC-7, Andy Soell wrote: Love all these reviews, thanks for all the guidance everyone! Does anyone have any experience with a newer Bluetooth-enabled locked called Kevo? Works with
Re: [Coworking] Who's shopping for electronic door locks?
For the Connections SF Space I did implement Lockitron using a strike plate, also tied FOB¹s to the system which could also be used for your hotel room door, and to access the workspace doors. For members of the workspace only, they use mobile devices to access the building of the hotel, and the door into the workspace. They also have an API, so you can integrate into any existing reservations systems, etc. Jacob, What are doing in SF? Make sure you come by to catch up, and please plan on having lunch one day in our Food Truck park directly next door to Citizen Space on 2nd. Toby On 7/14/14, 10:56 AM, Jacob Sayles ja...@officenomads.com wrote: For something like that Andy you probably want to focus on if the door jam can hold and electric strike. They are easier to deal with actually but residential products focus on the deadbolt because that is a standard residential doors. We have a lot more to work with in commercial spaces. As for codes vs RFID vs physical keys vs phones: It's important to understand the advantages and disadvantages each brings to the situation. The RedVic need codes we can email people like I described, but I'm generally against codes as they are too easy to copy, pass on, overhear, etc. Keys are too hard to revoke and change so at Office Nomads we go with RFID. Phone solutions I'm sure work great here in tech savvy San Francisco so I'm not surprised at all they work great for you Toby. I wonder how that would work even in Seattle and it makes me wonder what I would come up with if I looked at the phones of every member that had a key. We already have an RFID solution so that would mostly be academic. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: As long as we're back on electronic locks, we're looking for a good solution for our new location. The existing door is glass with a narrow stile http://www.customstorefronts.com/products/doors/aluminum/aluminum.htm frame that won't accommodate a standard deadbolt sized solution. If you search for door-code style locks for door like this on Amazon, you get a lot of results but none of them with enough purchases to figure out if they're good or not. Angel mentioned one earlier in this thread that would work, but it wasn't very favorably reviewed by her. Does anyone have any tips on a door code lock like this that they would recommend? I definitely want something with easily programmable codes we can give our members and not fobs or smartphone integration. andy On Monday, July 14, 2014 1:17:49 PM UTC-4, Jacob Sayles wrote: I'm down here in San Francisco now, knee deep in renovations for The Red Victorian http://www.redvic.com and working on their door lock solution. We don't want to use any smart phone systems (Kevo, Lockitron, August, etc) because we can't know for sure what kind of phone our guests will have, if they will even have phones, or if they are charged when they arrive. We want to go with a personalized key code that can be generated and emailed to them using the reservation system we built. For that we are hooking up the existing electric strike on the front gate to a raspberry pi and a wiegand keypad. The next bit of magic will be to hook up each room with a Kwikset SmartCode lock and push the generated code to the given room, and turn off the previous occupants code. The advantages of going with the Kwikset are that it can use the existing lock tumblers so we can keep the large amount of room keys we already have. Also at around $120-$150 the price is right for outfitting 20+ doors. People have been getting really excited about the idea of outfitting each door with a raspberry pi but by the time we get power, servos, and a durable enclosure hooked up it's going to be a lot more expensive. One pi at the front door calling all the shots is all we need. Of course I have to figure out how to send the key codes to each door so there is more RD needed. I'm also working to figure out the Wiegand protocol to hook up the keypad. If anyone has played with this, please reach out. Jacob --- Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 tel:%28206%29%20323-6500 On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:34 AM, rachel cline rclineco...@gmail.com wrote: Good info, I saw the fobs cost about $25, I didn't notice you had to pay for each virtual key also. Rachel Cline 702-577-8627 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Andy Soell aso...@gmail.com wrote: The one thing I would recommend, if you¹re looking at Kevo, is to make sure you understand how their ³ekey² pricing model works. Unless I¹m grossly misunderstanding, it looks like the way it works is that you have to pay for packs of virtual ³keys² to give to people before they can unlock it with
Re: [Coworking] Security
Lock down each desktop w/ one of those cable and lock things. We did this back at the GSD studios. Then password protect each computer even when idle for 10 min. Add cameras to monitor off-hours. Yes, have some legal wording to waive liability. JEROME CHANG Mid-Wilshire 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | Los Angeles CA 90036 ph: (323) 330-9505 Downtown 529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | Los Angeles CA 90013 ph: (213) 550-2235 On Jul 12, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Rachel Cline rclineconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Good afternoon, I am new to the group and looking for some advise on security. My husband and I have shared an office for the last three years, he has an architecture firm and I do art consulting/brokerage. We are doubling our office size and will have 8 extra large work stations plus conference and gallery space as well as casual breakout ares and a work room, so we have decided to offer a small number of co-working memberships. The one thing we are struggling with most is security, both for our members and our business belongings, we both have some pricey computers and I often have some valuable artwork in the space. We would like to offer access to the space during hours outside of normal business hours to higher level members but haven't figured out a way to secure our computers etc since the area our employees work in is shared with the area we plan to use for co-working. Has anyone out there dealt with similar conditions and what was your solution? If no solution, does it seem to restrictive to only offer access 8-6? Also, should we have an attorney look at our contract to make sure we are not liable for actions of others in the space or to and from the street parking they will be using. Thanks for your time and advise. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Furniture - Any recommendations on sourcing?
I've used a similar looking system called Bivi from Turnstone/Steelcase. I like your taste. JEROME CHANG Mid-Wilshire 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | Los Angeles CA 90036 ph: (323) 330-9505 Downtown 529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | Los Angeles CA 90013 ph: (213) 550-2235 On Jul 12, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Rachel Cline rclineconsult...@gmail.com wrote: We are about to start a small co-working space in Las Vegas and will be purchasing Knoll Antenna product, it is quite a bit more than ikea (not as much as people think) but looks awsome and it has a life-time warranty. On Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:28:26 AM UTC-7, Katy Moses Huggins wrote: Hi All! I'm new to the group as of yesterday and love the amount of great info and sharing in this group. I'm in the process of building out a coworking space at the moment and am researching options for furniture. I've been looking into all the secondhand stores, but everything seems pretty junky and I'd like to have the space be fresh, bright and clean (no old lacquer finish chipping off on our forearms, please!). Have any of you been able to make connections with someone who will sell desks, chairs at wholesale? Any other recommendations? Thanks! www.CoworkEvergreen.com -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Security
Rachel, For a bit of context: we have 50+ full time members' computers/belongings, our own electronics/equipment, and a *substantial* art collection on loan at any given time...so I've felt *many* aspects of your pain. *Bolting things down is definitely an option, but man, does it send a message of I don't trust you*. This is a pretty toxic message for community members to experience, and leads to all kinds of other issues (far beyond security) that are totally avoidable simply by being intentional about trust. We're not naive about this, either. We've had a theft - and it came from within, from a new full time member. He was quickly caught red handed and removed. Equipment is replaceable. But a lot of trust that had been established among members was rocked to the core. We had a conversation with our members about the theft. The belongings that went missing sucked, but the BIG issue that we had to deal with was a major breach of trust. When everyone looks at every new member suspiciously, again, that's not a place that people want to be. Cameras just tell you whodunit after the fact. What if you could reduce the odds of a situation *before* a camera ever has anything worth capturing? *We came up with another method:* we have a 30 day waiting period on getting 24/7 access, and once that 30 day period is over, you need to get signatures from 3 other key holding members on a sheet that says I've gotten to know and trust this person enough that I'm okay with them having keys around my and other peoples' stuff. This sends a very different message to both new and existing members: first, new members get the feeling of woah, it's not just the staff or owners of this place that look out for things...it's everyone, including my peers. It also serves as a reminder to existing keyholders, that they're responsible for more than just themselves. Kinda like a neighborhood watch, which even the *police* will tell you they benefit from. It's just not possible or practical to have presence everywhere, and even when you can, it's rarely a way to manage risk that people WANT to have. Think about how you feel going into a gas station where the attendant is behind bullet proof glass, vs. going to your local corner store to pick something up. You *feel* different in places that are on lockdown. Frankly, you want to GTFO. I have direct quotes from other coworking spaces, too: We never totally took security as serious as how our members might *feel* within the space. We put this process in place 6 years ago, and have nothing but positive feedback about it from all sides (and have remained incident free). IN fact, things are generally FAR better taken care of because of it. And unlike the last time this was brought up on the list https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/ldC469c-JR0/bEbOOcsj3mgJ (3+ years ago!), Indy Hall now includes a ground floor entrance AND is a two-floor layout, making the neighborhood watch model even more valuable for keeping eyes on the streets on both floors simultaneously. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: Lock down each desktop w/ one of those cable and lock things. We did this back at the GSD studios. Then password protect each computer even when idle for 10 min. Add cameras to monitor off-hours. Yes, have some legal wording to waive liability. *JEROME CHANG* *Mid-Wilshire* 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | Los Angeles CA 90036 ph: (323) 330-9505 *Downtown* 529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | Los Angeles CA 90013 ph: (213) 550-2235 http://www.yelp.com/biz/blankspaces-los-angeles https://twitter.com/BLANKSPACES https://www.facebook.com/pages/BLANKSPACES/132257631339 https://www.facebook.com/pages/BLANKSPACES/132257631339 http://www.linkedin.com/company/blankspaces?trk=top_nav_home http://vimeo.com/blankspaces http://vimeo.com/blankspaces On Jul 12, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Rachel Cline rclineconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Good afternoon, I am new to the group and looking for some advise on security. My husband and I have shared an office for the last three years, he has an architecture firm and I do art consulting/brokerage. We are doubling our office size and will have 8 extra large work stations plus conference and gallery space as well as casual breakout ares and a work room, so we have decided to offer a small number of co-working memberships. The one thing we are struggling with most is security, both for our members and our business belongings, we both have some pricey computers and I often have some valuable artwork in the space. We would like to offer access to the space during hours outside of normal business hours to higher level members but haven't figured out a way to secure our computers etc since the area our employees work in is shared with the area we plan to use for co-working. Has anyone out there dealt
Re: [Coworking] Security
*And in case you don't believe me about the sense of responsibility that you can engender using our key/access approach:* Tonight we had a MAJOR storm come through Philly. So bad that the building next to ours caused water to leak into our space. In this case, our intruder was mother nature. No security cameras or lockdowns would've helped (in fact, anything locked down would've been damaged). However, one of our members was there, called a couple of other members he knew could get ahold of staff. He carefully moved a couple of members' belongings out of harms way of the water. There's a bit of a mess, but nobody's stuff got hurt. *Here's the kicker: nearly all happened while I was on an airplane between LA and SFO.* By the time I landed, just about everything we could've done for the night was resolved, including sending a note to the community about what had happened (including a heads up to the people whose stuff had to be moved). The best part, though, is that when thanking the members for helping mitigate the damage, the very first thing George - who had spotted the water first and started calling people - said was, *Hey man, I'm a keyholder. * -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Rachel, For a bit of context: we have 50+ full time members' computers/belongings, our own electronics/equipment, and a *substantial* art collection on loan at any given time...so I've felt *many* aspects of your pain. *Bolting things down is definitely an option, but man, does it send a message of I don't trust you*. This is a pretty toxic message for community members to experience, and leads to all kinds of other issues (far beyond security) that are totally avoidable simply by being intentional about trust. We're not naive about this, either. We've had a theft - and it came from within, from a new full time member. He was quickly caught red handed and removed. Equipment is replaceable. But a lot of trust that had been established among members was rocked to the core. We had a conversation with our members about the theft. The belongings that went missing sucked, but the BIG issue that we had to deal with was a major breach of trust. When everyone looks at every new member suspiciously, again, that's not a place that people want to be. Cameras just tell you whodunit after the fact. What if you could reduce the odds of a situation *before* a camera ever has anything worth capturing? *We came up with another method:* we have a 30 day waiting period on getting 24/7 access, and once that 30 day period is over, you need to get signatures from 3 other key holding members on a sheet that says I've gotten to know and trust this person enough that I'm okay with them having keys around my and other peoples' stuff. This sends a very different message to both new and existing members: first, new members get the feeling of woah, it's not just the staff or owners of this place that look out for things...it's everyone, including my peers. It also serves as a reminder to existing keyholders, that they're responsible for more than just themselves. Kinda like a neighborhood watch, which even the *police* will tell you they benefit from. It's just not possible or practical to have presence everywhere, and even when you can, it's rarely a way to manage risk that people WANT to have. Think about how you feel going into a gas station where the attendant is behind bullet proof glass, vs. going to your local corner store to pick something up. You *feel* different in places that are on lockdown. Frankly, you want to GTFO. I have direct quotes from other coworking spaces, too: We never totally took security as serious as how our members might *feel* within the space. We put this process in place 6 years ago, and have nothing but positive feedback about it from all sides (and have remained incident free). IN fact, things are generally FAR better taken care of because of it. And unlike the last time this was brought up on the list https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/ldC469c-JR0/bEbOOcsj3mgJ (3+ years ago!), Indy Hall now includes a ground floor entrance AND is a two-floor layout, making the neighborhood watch model even more valuable for keeping eyes on the streets on both floors simultaneously. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: Lock down each desktop w/ one of those cable and lock things. We did this back at the GSD studios. Then password protect each computer even when idle for 10 min. Add cameras to monitor off-hours. Yes, have some legal wording to waive liability. *JEROME CHANG* *Mid-Wilshire* 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | Los Angeles CA 90036 ph: (323) 330-9505 *Downtown* 529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | Los
Re: [Coworking] Security
Awesome. You've got a great policy in place. My advice was a knee-jerk comment based on being a fellow architect. My bad. I guess my only revision to both Alex's and my advice is that since Rachel's coworking office is being added on to an existing/original office team, it might not be managed with a front desk/community manager or similar. Alex, I take it that your GroupBuzz forum came in really handy in this case, huh? JEROME CHANG Mid-Wilshire 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | Los Angeles CA 90036 ph: (323) 330-9505 Downtown 529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | Los Angeles CA 90013 ph: (213) 550-2235 On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: And in case you don't believe me about the sense of responsibility that you can engender using our key/access approach: Tonight we had a MAJOR storm come through Philly. So bad that the building next to ours caused water to leak into our space. In this case, our intruder was mother nature. No security cameras or lockdowns would've helped (in fact, anything locked down would've been damaged). However, one of our members was there, called a couple of other members he knew could get ahold of staff. He carefully moved a couple of members' belongings out of harms way of the water. There's a bit of a mess, but nobody's stuff got hurt. Here's the kicker: nearly all happened while I was on an airplane between LA and SFO. By the time I landed, just about everything we could've done for the night was resolved, including sending a note to the community about what had happened (including a heads up to the people whose stuff had to be moved). The best part, though, is that when thanking the members for helping mitigate the damage, the very first thing George - who had spotted the water first and started calling people - said was, Hey man, I'm a keyholder. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Rachel, For a bit of context: we have 50+ full time members' computers/belongings, our own electronics/equipment, and a substantial art collection on loan at any given time...so I've felt many aspects of your pain. Bolting things down is definitely an option, but man, does it send a message of I don't trust you. This is a pretty toxic message for community members to experience, and leads to all kinds of other issues (far beyond security) that are totally avoidable simply by being intentional about trust. We're not naive about this, either. We've had a theft - and it came from within, from a new full time member. He was quickly caught red handed and removed. Equipment is replaceable. But a lot of trust that had been established among members was rocked to the core. We had a conversation with our members about the theft. The belongings that went missing sucked, but the BIG issue that we had to deal with was a major breach of trust. When everyone looks at every new member suspiciously, again, that's not a place that people want to be. Cameras just tell you whodunit after the fact. What if you could reduce the odds of a situation before a camera ever has anything worth capturing? We came up with another method: we have a 30 day waiting period on getting 24/7 access, and once that 30 day period is over, you need to get signatures from 3 other key holding members on a sheet that says I've gotten to know and trust this person enough that I'm okay with them having keys around my and other peoples' stuff. This sends a very different message to both new and existing members: first, new members get the feeling of woah, it's not just the staff or owners of this place that look out for things...it's everyone, including my peers. It also serves as a reminder to existing keyholders, that they're responsible for more than just themselves. Kinda like a neighborhood watch, which even the police will tell you they benefit from. It's just not possible or practical to have presence everywhere, and even when you can, it's rarely a way to manage risk that people WANT to have. Think about how you feel going into a gas station where the attendant is behind bullet proof glass, vs. going to your local corner store to pick something up. You feel different in places that are on lockdown. Frankly, you want to GTFO. I have direct quotes from other coworking spaces, too: We never totally took security as serious as how our members might feel within the space. We put this process in place 6 years ago, and have nothing but positive feedback about it from all sides (and have remained incident free). IN fact, things are generally FAR better taken care of because of it. And unlike the last time this was brought up on the list (3+ years ago!), Indy Hall now includes a ground floor
Re: [Coworking] Security
it might not be managed with a front desk/community manager or similar. All the more reason to want something where your non-agency coworking members to be looking out for things :) Alex, I take it that your GroupBuzz forum came in really handy in this case, huh? That'sa really good question - I don't actually think it did, at least not *directly*. list. Like I said in my other thread about GroupBuzz, it's less of an add-on backchannel and a more of a community gather place unto itself. Those lines are definitely blurry, as stuff about the space is among the topics that gets discussed online. But this time, it was the coworking space that was leaking, not GroupBuzz ;) If history repeats itself, my bet is that if George couldn't have gotten ahold of anyone, he would've posted something though. Now, if GroupBuzz *did* play a role, it might've been explicit, like helping George look up contact info for someone who he thought could help, or a bit more implicit, like the fact that George's participation in GroupBuzz reinforces that sense of looking after things because it does come up in conversations quite a bit. Either way, I'm definitely guessing. I will have to check with the crew who was involved tomorrow to find out for sure. The only active role that I KNOW GroupBuzz played this time was communicating what happened and publicly acknowledging the folks who helped. -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Jerome Chang jer...@blankspaces.com wrote: Awesome. You've got a great policy in place. My advice was a knee-jerk comment based on being a fellow architect. My bad. I guess my only revision to both Alex's and my advice is that since Rachel's coworking office is being added on to an existing/original office team, it might not be managed with a front desk/community manager or similar. Alex, I take it that your GroupBuzz forum came in really handy in this case, huh? *JEROME CHANG* *Mid-Wilshire* 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) | Los Angeles CA 90036 ph: (323) 330-9505 *Downtown* 529 S. Broadway, Suite 4000 (@Pershing Square) | Los Angeles CA 90013 ph: (213) 550-2235 http://www.yelp.com/biz/blankspaces-los-angeles https://twitter.com/BLANKSPACES https://www.facebook.com/pages/BLANKSPACES/132257631339 https://www.facebook.com/pages/BLANKSPACES/132257631339 http://www.linkedin.com/company/blankspaces?trk=top_nav_home http://vimeo.com/blankspaces http://vimeo.com/blankspaces On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: *And in case you don't believe me about the sense of responsibility that you can engender using our key/access approach:* Tonight we had a MAJOR storm come through Philly. So bad that the building next to ours caused water to leak into our space. In this case, our intruder was mother nature. No security cameras or lockdowns would've helped (in fact, anything locked down would've been damaged). However, one of our members was there, called a couple of other members he knew could get ahold of staff. He carefully moved a couple of members' belongings out of harms way of the water. There's a bit of a mess, but nobody's stuff got hurt. *Here's the kicker: nearly all happened while I was on an airplane between LA and SFO.* By the time I landed, just about everything we could've done for the night was resolved, including sending a note to the community about what had happened (including a heads up to the people whose stuff had to be moved). The best part, though, is that when thanking the members for helping mitigate the damage, the very first thing George - who had spotted the water first and started calling people - said was, *Hey man, I'm a keyholder. * -Alex -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Rachel, For a bit of context: we have 50+ full time members' computers/belongings, our own electronics/equipment, and a *substantial* art collection on loan at any given time...so I've felt *many* aspects of your pain. *Bolting things down is definitely an option, but man, does it send a message of I don't trust you*. This is a pretty toxic message for community members to experience, and leads to all kinds of other issues (far beyond security) that are totally avoidable simply by being intentional about trust. We're not naive about this, either. We've had a theft - and it came from within, from a new full time member. He was quickly caught red handed and removed. Equipment is replaceable. But a lot of trust that had been established among members was rocked to the core. We had a conversation with our members about the theft. The belongings that went missing sucked, but the BIG issue that we had to deal with was a major breach of trust. When everyone looks at every new member suspiciously, again,
