Re: [Csgo_servers] Patch broke CSGO
Hello, Michael I also agree with your arguments. From what I know they are working each day to fix different types of issues. Note that not everything they fix is in the Update Release notes. They can easily fix some buggy script and don’t event bother to name it. Be sure that if you guys mentioned something here, the DEVs DID get it and the possibility that they are checking the issue is almost 100%. Here is my suggestion to all of you guys: When you encounter the problem, try to reproduce it. Remember the steps and post it here. Be specific and exact, after all that’s not reddit or CS:GO Discussions. As you can see I, like the DEV team prefer to read more instead of making “Tolkin” posts without trying to actually solve the issue myself. Remember guys, our community is giant, and the DEV team doesn’t include all ~250 Valve employees. So try to help them by giving specific and exact information. Thanks. ~Nikolay On 20.09.2014, at 02:38, Michael Loveless mloveless1...@gmail.com wrote: You are absolutely right. There is no need for them to have active conversations with us. But, just like what happened the other night when Vitaliy stopped in to at least give us a word about the session error problems, it wouldn't hurt Valve devs to give us meaningful short responses that will let us know they are working on a solution when we are going on for weeks about a specific issue. We understand that there are only a handful of devs working on this game, but there are mountains of problems that are being addressed by the community from small client issues to major server issues. Combine that with the fact we know a large amount of the devs time is spent on Operations, skins, etc...and we have a legit reason to be mad that core issues with the game are seemingly being put on the back burner in exchange for a money grab. How can you move forward so swiftly with so many things that are irrelevant to the actual fluidity of gameplay while seemingly neglecting the most widespread issues? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Nikolay Asenov archangel.hege...@gmail.com wrote: Not answering you directly doesn't mean that they are not paying attention to what all of us are reporting each day. I KNOW THAT for obvious reasons. Ido, Matt, Vitaliy and the rest of that amazing team are working each day to solve numerous issues. Also, there is a good reason why they don't start active conversations, and that reason is not because some frustrated guy started insulting them. Just be specific when you report the issue, and they will contact you if they need more information. Thanks ~Nikolay Sent from my iPhone 5s On 20.09.2014 г., at 0:57, Michael Loveless mloveless1...@gmail.com wrote: It is a gamebreaking issue. Just because it's not on /r/globaloffensive doesn't mean it's not a real, widespread problem. NFO Servers, probably the most reliable and one of the largest game hosting services in North America, has specifically stated they are no longer offering hosted 128 tick Linux servers to customers EXCEPT upon specific request due to unsolvable lag problems, I quote that from a support ticket discussion with them. There is 1 topic on that subreddit actually related to server operation for every 1000 other garbage posts there are. No need to come here slingin' zingers like ''I'll stop wonder why Valve doesn't commernercate herr'' when no one really cares what happens in a subreddit that has nothing to do with server operation. We have been troubleshooting Valve's dedicated servers for them for the past 2 years. We've been patient time and time again. Some of us are done reporting our problems nicely since we've been trying that for 2 years with almost no response from Valve. How long is anyone supposed to keep being nice for while being almost completely ignored in the process? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:31 PM, FX BTR fre...@gmail.com wrote: No you are wrong, read my first answer. If after doing so you still think that's what I said, I'll stop wonder why Valve doesn't communicate much here. 2014-09-19 21:04 GMT+02:00 MiShU # gameserver-syndicate.de mi...@gameserver-syndicate.de: @ FX BTR: So am i right that u really think that there is - at the moment - nothing weird with this linux-reserved lag-spikes? Maybe in some countrys like the US or so there is a larger amount of windows-servers which dont have these issues so u get not enough input about that or whatever. But its a fact that linux servers with different linux-distributions, different hardware have this problems and its a fact that this problems start with the update from 10th september. And i would say that nearly 99% of all csgo-servers in europe runs on linux. So YES, this is a major problem! Whatever! Sourcemod seems to be fixed, but there are still lag-spikes (no more gamebraking-spikes on our side, but spikes which werent there
Re: [Csgo_servers] Linux server sv/var spikes
I noticed it yesterday in a valve casual server when it was full. On Sep 19, 2014 2:47 PM, g...@lg-clan.de wrote: We have this problem too Even on empty, naked servers without extensions or plugins ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again
We are seeing widespread session issues all around the globe :( On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com wrote: Feel the pressure! Fragbite just wrote about this problem. :P http://fragbite.se/cs/news/35717/csgo-utvecklarna-vi-jobbar-pa-det -- Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:18:28 -0300 From: garcia.bru...@gmail.com To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Valve time, everyone. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Anas Ilyas spim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let's hope this lobby rewrite doesn't take months. In the meanwhile, please do give us an update on progress on a weekly/bi-weekly basis or something. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com wrote: I am happy for a respond. But tbh, I felt like they been saying go fuck yourself for the last year by getting ignored about this problem even after sending private mails with debug info etc to several of the devs here. I just hope they can understand that people get frustrated with no information and a bit calmer with information and I hope they give us some information next time instead ignoring us. -- From: stevere...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:16:13 -0700 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Take it easy man, be happy for what you got. He very well could have told you to go fuck yourself and they don't want to fix it. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com wrote: Finally a response. At least now we KNOW that they know and that they are working on it. Its sad that it took so long to write a few sentences about this and only after we started to mention boycotts. -- Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:09:35 -0400 From: goabs...@absurdminds.net To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Just this one post right here is going to improve the attitude of the community so much. Thank you for acknowledging the issue and verifying that you are working on it. On Sep 15, 2014 7:07 PM, Vitaliy Genkin vita...@valvesoftware.com wrote: Hi all, The issue with sessions has been becoming a real problem with the growth of CS:GO user base. We are aware of the issue and are working on changing the core systems to scale better with the size of CS:GO community. Unfortunately this is not a quick rewrite, and there isn’t an easy workaround that we can offer at the moment. We’ll be sure to include a release note when the update resolving session issues is ready, but don’t have an exact date to announce yet. Thanks, -Vitaliy ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again
Try https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=2201126postcount=36 for a fix. I've had the idea before, but Ejzi said it didnt work out for him. So idk. On 20.09.2014 15:45, Marco Padovan wrote: We are seeing widespread session issues all around the globe :( On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com mailto:sza...@hotmail.com wrote: Feel the pressure! Fragbite just wrote about this problem. :P http://fragbite.se/cs/news/35717/csgo-utvecklarna-vi-jobbar-pa-det Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:18:28 -0300 From: garcia.bru...@gmail.com mailto:garcia.bru...@gmail.com To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Valve time, everyone. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Anas Ilyas spim...@gmail.com mailto:spim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let's hope this lobby rewrite doesn't take months. In the meanwhile, please do give us an update on progress on a weekly/bi-weekly basis or something. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com mailto:sza...@hotmail.com wrote: I am happy for a respond. But tbh, I felt like they been saying go fuck yourself for the last year by getting ignored about this problem even after sending private mails with debug info etc to several of the devs here. I just hope they can understand that people get frustrated with no information and a bit calmer with information and I hope they give us some information next time instead ignoring us. From: stevere...@gmail.com mailto:stevere...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:16:13 -0700 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Take it easy man, be happy for what you got. He very well could have told you to go fuck yourself and they don't want to fix it. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com mailto:sza...@hotmail.com wrote: Finally a response. At least now we KNOW that they know and that they are working on it. Its sad that it took so long to write a few sentences about this and only after we started to mention boycotts. Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:09:35 -0400 From: goabs...@absurdminds.net mailto:goabs...@absurdminds.net To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Just this one post right here is going to improve the attitude of the community so much. Thank you for acknowledging the issue and verifying that you are working on it. On Sep 15, 2014 7:07 PM, Vitaliy Genkin vita...@valvesoftware.com mailto:vita...@valvesoftware.com wrote: Hi all, The issue with sessions has been becoming a real problem with the growth of CS:GO user base. We are aware of the issue and are working on changing the core systems to scale better with the size of CS:GO community. Unfortunately this is not a quick rewrite, and there isn't an easy workaround that we can offer at the moment. We'll be sure to include a release note when the update resolving session issues is ready, but don't have an exact date to announce yet. Thanks, -Vitaliy ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again
I gave it a try didn't work for me :( On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Matthias InstantMuffin Kollek proph...@sticed.org wrote: Try https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=2201126postcount=36 for a fix. I've had the idea before, but Ejzi said it didnt work out for him. So idk. On 20.09.2014 15:45, Marco Padovan wrote: We are seeing widespread session issues all around the globe :( On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com wrote: Feel the pressure! Fragbite just wrote about this problem. :P http://fragbite.se/cs/news/35717/csgo-utvecklarna-vi-jobbar-pa-det -- Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:18:28 -0300 From: garcia.bru...@gmail.com To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Valve time, everyone. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Anas Ilyas spim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let's hope this lobby rewrite doesn't take months. In the meanwhile, please do give us an update on progress on a weekly/bi-weekly basis or something. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com wrote: I am happy for a respond. But tbh, I felt like they been saying go fuck yourself for the last year by getting ignored about this problem even after sending private mails with debug info etc to several of the devs here. I just hope they can understand that people get frustrated with no information and a bit calmer with information and I hope they give us some information next time instead ignoring us. -- From: stevere...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:16:13 -0700 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Take it easy man, be happy for what you got. He very well could have told you to go fuck yourself and they don't want to fix it. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com wrote: Finally a response. At least now we KNOW that they know and that they are working on it. Its sad that it took so long to write a few sentences about this and only after we started to mention boycotts. -- Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:09:35 -0400 From: goabs...@absurdminds.net To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Just this one post right here is going to improve the attitude of the community so much. Thank you for acknowledging the issue and verifying that you are working on it. On Sep 15, 2014 7:07 PM, Vitaliy Genkin vita...@valvesoftware.com wrote: Hi all, The issue with sessions has been becoming a real problem with the growth of CS:GO user base. We are aware of the issue and are working on changing the core systems to scale better with the size of CS:GO community. Unfortunately this is not a quick rewrite, and there isn’t an easy workaround that we can offer at the moment. We’ll be sure to include a release note when the update resolving session issues is ready, but don’t have an exact date to announce yet. Thanks, -Vitaliy ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing listCsgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.comhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again
I will test it too. On Sunday evening (germany) or at the latest on tuesday night (germany)... ;) the two badest 'lobby-days' in my opinion! Thx for this link/info! I hope it will work... Am 20.09.2014 21:32, schrieb Marco Padovan: I gave it a try didn't work for me :( On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Matthias InstantMuffin Kollek proph...@sticed.org mailto:proph...@sticed.org wrote: Try https://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=2201126postcount=36 for a fix. I've had the idea before, but Ejzi said it didnt work out for him. So idk. On 20.09.2014 15:45, Marco Padovan wrote: We are seeing widespread session issues all around the globe :( On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com mailto:sza...@hotmail.com wrote: Feel the pressure! Fragbite just wrote about this problem. :P http://fragbite.se/cs/news/35717/csgo-utvecklarna-vi-jobbar-pa-det Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:18:28 -0300 From: garcia.bru...@gmail.com mailto:garcia.bru...@gmail.com To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Valve time, everyone. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Anas Ilyas spim...@gmail.com mailto:spim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Let's hope this lobby rewrite doesn't take months. In the meanwhile, please do give us an update on progress on a weekly/bi-weekly basis or something. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com mailto:sza...@hotmail.com wrote: I am happy for a respond. But tbh, I felt like they been saying go fuck yourself for the last year by getting ignored about this problem even after sending private mails with debug info etc to several of the devs here. I just hope they can understand that people get frustrated with no information and a bit calmer with information and I hope they give us some information next time instead ignoring us. From: stevere...@gmail.com mailto:stevere...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:16:13 -0700 To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Take it easy man, be happy for what you got. He very well could have told you to go fuck yourself and they don't want to fix it. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Ejziponken - sza...@hotmail.com mailto:sza...@hotmail.com wrote: Finally a response. At least now we KNOW that they know and that they are working on it. Its sad that it took so long to write a few sentences about this and only after we started to mention boycotts. Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:09:35 -0400 From: goabs...@absurdminds.net mailto:goabs...@absurdminds.net To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Problem Unable to join the session. Please try again Just this one post right here is going to improve the attitude of the community so much. Thank you for acknowledging the issue and verifying that you are working on it. On Sep 15, 2014 7:07 PM, Vitaliy Genkin vita...@valvesoftware.com mailto:vita...@valvesoftware.com wrote: Hi all, The issue with sessions has been becoming a real problem with the growth of CS:GO user base. We are aware of the issue and are working on changing the core systems to scale better with the size of CS:GO community. Unfortunately this is not a quick rewrite, and there isn't an easy workaround that we can offer at the moment. We'll be sure to include a release note when the update resolving session issues
Re: [Csgo_servers] The current situation and a proposal to get this sorted out
I'm running the servers, I'm the one that have to live with the problems in first hand, I have players complaining about them too and not always in a orderly fashion because the players too get frustrated when I cant give them any answers to the problem. But I'm just a guy running CSGO-servers. I know the basics in that area but I often have problems location the source of the issues and gathering the correct and helpful information for the devs.Like the recent lag problems. I know my servers lags. I see the net_graph and the spike in sv/var values when it lags. But that's about it. Ofc I can try to take some basics steps to rule out plugins, etc but I cant do much more. Its frustrating spending hours and hours trying to figure out problems with the servers and then sending mails to this list and not getting any response at all from the people who can help you. After I spend a day to rule out ditt and datt It would be nice that someone knowledge that they know about the problem and that they are looking into it. Otherwise it feels like I'm sitting there with the problems and no options and that's not a good feeling. When I have problems with my internet connection I call my company and they tell me what steps to take to solve the problem or how to gather information they need to solve the problem and that's what I'm missing here. Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:11:35 +0200 From: proph...@sticed.org To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [Csgo_servers] The current situation and a proposal to get this sorted out This is a mess. Basically, the community suffers from two game issues at the moment: -The session bug -Lag spikes that appeared with the update from 9/10/2014 Oddly enough, those aren't actually the issues. There is only one key issue: There is no (directed) communication. We have two parties here, the devs and the community. We can't expect the devs to do nothing else but to browse through the mails here and endure the people's frustration (and possible insults) and justify theirselves to them. They have better things to do, may it be implementing new features, or doing what we want them to do at the moment, fixing bugs. On the other hand, Valve cannot expect the community to be happy with being kept in the dark. No one can tell me that this is particularly helpful either. Just like we should be understanding towards Valve (given the point I've made above), Valve (who actually hire psychologists to research gamers' behavior, at least according to their job opening tab on their page) is well aware of that, I guess. So let's for a moment focus on what both parties have in common: A lot of effort goes from both sides into making the game work, because they both share a passion for this game. Second of all, both parties want to be understood. So what is needed? Middlemen, who moderate the communication, filter out whatever information there is going around the net community-wise and pick out the stuff for the devs which is actually helpful to them and in reverse work with the community admins. Maybe Valve needs other resources like community test servers (since reproducing the issues is part of them obviously), or dumps, I don't know. Just let these people know and help both parties solve this problem. I sincerely hope that both sides read and understand this. The situation is dire. ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers ___ Csgo_servers mailing list Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
