Re: [css-d] Multiple class name support

2006-06-18 Thread Michael Geary
> > > I'm just wondering how well is the multi-class feature (i.e. 
> > > class="style1 style2 style3") supported in various browsers.
> > > Also, is there any significant difference between browsers in
> > > terms of how the order of class names affects the
> > > specificity/style precedence? 

> Actually, IE has issues with multiple selectors. Not that it 
> doesn't work, just that there are caveats (that have bitten 
> me several times).
> 
> Refer to the wiki for details:
> http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=MultipleClasses

The wiki doesn't say there is any issue with class="one two three" in IE. I
use that extensively and haven't seen any problems with any browsers as far
back as IE 5.0. The problem is when you try to use a CSS selector like
.one.two {}, which doesn't work at all in IE. But you can certainly use .one
{} or .two {} to match the class="one two three".

To achieve an "and" effect like .one.two {} gives and have it work in any
reasonably modern browser, I use nested elements with individual classnames.
For example, if I want to do the equivalent of:

 
test
 

 .one.two {}

I use instead:

 

   test

 

 .one .two {}

It's somewhat ugly but effective. Note that this still works fine if there
are multiple classnames, e.g.

 

   test

 

 .one .two {} /* identical results to previous example */

But this may or may not relate to the OP's question...

-Mike

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Re: [css-d] Background Image on Blockquote Hidden Under Floated Image

2006-06-18 Thread David Laakso
Duckworth, Nigel wrote:
> Franky, 
>
> I like your mutations! I will take a closer look at this tonight and if
> the markup changes aren't to radical I might go with this, in any case
> it's nice to have choice.  
> -Nigel
> See testpage over here 
> .
> Comments are inside src code.
> Tested only in IE6, Opera7.54, Opera8.01 and FF1.07.
> francky
offlist:
As a fan of hackless solutions, she's looking good and standing tall 
here in:
xp
1] Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) 
Gecko/20060516 SeaMonkey/1.0.2
2]Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) 
Gecko/20060508 Firefox/1.5.0.4
3]Opera9.0b2
Best,
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Re: [css-d] How can I do an image overlap with CSS?

2006-06-18 Thread Bob Rosenberg
At 21:35 -0700 on 06/17/2006, Robert Lane wrote about Re: [css-d] How 
can I do an image overlap with CSS?:

>Well those lines lost it in transmission - sorry.
>
>Basically I want
>
>   Img A
>
>  Img B
>
>where Img B overlaps and covers the lower right 2/3 of Img A.

Cheat. Bring the two picture into Photoshop and put Image A in Layer 
1, Image B in Layer 2, and save a flattened copy. Use the copy in 
your layout.
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[css-d] Modifying s5

2006-06-18 Thread Dan Healy
I have been working with s5 to make it show slides without headers and
footers.  I got it to work with FireFox, but not with IE6.  When I eliminate
the footer I lose the controls in IE6, but the controls appear and work fine
in FireFox.

Making this simple change in s5-blank.html will demonstrate the problem:
FROM

TO


If you now open s5-blank in FireFox the footer does not show, but the
controls do and they work.  If you open it in IE6 the footer does not show
and neither do the controls.

Does anyone have any idea how to get around this problem with IE6 that works
also with FireFox?

Thanks,

Dan Healy
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Re: [css-d] problem with IE in 600x800 widths

2006-06-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
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> Does anyone have any idea WHY that only happens under those
> circumstances and what I can do to fix it?

Cause: 3px bug moved on to container, added to width and getting
squeezed in IE.

One working solution, add...

#leftnav {margin-bottom: -1000px;}

...which makes #leftnav take up no space (as the browsers see it), so IE
have nothing to drop page-body below, and will keep it staying up there
regardless of window-width.

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Re: [css-d] page check/browser cam please?

2006-06-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
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> I believe it is working correctly, but I have someone from a yahoo 
> list who has stated that it's not working in thier browser. They 
> stated that on every page, except the index page, the body of the 
> page begins below the navagation buttons on the left.

> http://www.hotfrenchbulldogs.com/regarding.html

Confirming the flaw - in IE6 (on win2K).

The page-body drops below navigation on narrow windows. Triggered
somewhere around window-width 875 - depending a bit on font-size.

Page also shows signs of the 'em font-resizing bug' in IE...


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[css-d] IE6 "Skip to Content" workaround

2006-06-18 Thread Bojana Lalic
Hi all

 

I am implementing the "Skip to content" link at the beginning of the
page for screen readers to skip the navigation and go straight to the
main content.

 

However, Internet Explorer 6.0 moves the visual focus, but not the input
focus. 

 

How do I get this to work in IE6?

 

Regards

 

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Re: [css-d] floats or margin alignment?

2006-06-18 Thread Ed Seehouse
On 6/18/06, Bruce Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just curious as to the benefits of floating divs, as opposed to
> aligning with margin spacing? It seems that floated elements often
> case floats drops and the floats need to be cleared etc. whereas
> margin somewhat more easy to manage.

I'd say that if you can do it with margin adjustments that's the way
to go. If you need to get a little more sophisticated then move to
floats, but use them as sparingly as possible.  For a two column
layout you need just one float, for example, not two.

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[css-d] floats or margin alignment?

2006-06-18 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I was just curious as to the benefits of floating divs, as opposed to
aligning with margin spacing? It seems that floated elements often
case floats drops and the floats need to be cleared etc. whereas
margin somewhat more easy to manage.
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[css-d] problem with IE in 600x800 widths

2006-06-18 Thread erin
Hello all,

Could someone take a look at the browser cam screenshots David gave me
(thanks David!). If you go to the second page of results you'll see that
on a Windows computer with 800x600 resolution, using OS XP or 2000-Pro in
an IE browser, the body of the page gets shoved down below the nav images.

Does anyone have any idea WHY that only happens under those circumstances
and what I can do to fix it?

http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=261744

Thanks!

Erin Spangler

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Could someone who has browser-cam check this page for me?
>> http://www.hotfrenchbulldogs.com/regarding.html (or pick any page for
>> that
>> matter except the index page)
>> Erin Spangler
> 26 shots here:
> 
> I did not wait for them to load.
> Best,
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Re: [css-d] page check/browser cam please? - hotfb

2006-06-18 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/06/18 14:27 (GMT-0700) [EMAIL PROTECTED] apparently typed:

> Could someone who has browser-cam check this page for me? I believe it is
> working correctly, but I have someone from a yahoo list who has stated
> that it's not working in thier browser. They stated that on every page,
> except the index page, the body of the page begins below the navagation
> buttons on the left. I checked on my computers and everything looks ok to
> me. I get a bit of work from this particular yahoo list and I'm worried a
> bit that others are seeing something I missed. A quick glance at a browser
> cam page would put my concerns to rest.

> http://www.hotfrenchbulldogs.com/regarding.html (or pick any page for that
> matter except the index page)

Couldn't duplicate the complaint on any of:

IE6 6
Firefox 1.5.0.4
Safari 2.0.3
Konqueror 3.4.2
Epiphany 1.8.0

Nice page. Might need to get the somebody to specify which browser they
use. Might be some old Netscape 6.0 or worse.
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Re: [css-d] page check/browser cam please?

2006-06-18 Thread David Laakso
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> Could someone who has browser-cam check this page for me?
> http://www.hotfrenchbulldogs.com/regarding.html (or pick any page for that
> matter except the index page)
> Erin Spangler
26 shots here:

I did not wait for them to load.
Best,
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[css-d] page check/browser cam please?

2006-06-18 Thread erin
Could someone who has browser-cam check this page for me? I believe it is
working correctly, but I have someone from a yahoo list who has stated
that it's not working in thier browser. They stated that on every page,
except the index page, the body of the page begins below the navagation
buttons on the left. I checked on my computers and everything looks ok to
me. I get a bit of work from this particular yahoo list and I'm worried a
bit that others are seeing something I missed. A quick glance at a browser
cam page would put my concerns to rest.

http://www.hotfrenchbulldogs.com/regarding.html (or pick any page for that
matter except the index page)

Thanks so much!


Erin Spangler
www.thedogsonline.com

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[css-d] 100% table height

2006-06-18 Thread Diona Kidd
I'm in need of layout assistance. I have a layout that I can only see  
being able to layout using tables. It's 3 equal height columns, which  
normally don't use tables for...

The left and right column ultimately have vertical boxes that span  
the entire height of the column. Say 3 boxes in the left col, 4 in  
the right with a 1px margin between the boxes (not yet shown in test).

The center column has a top image and then boxes that fill the area  
below the image. I've tried this with divs and have been able to get  
it 'almost right' on most browsers but I need it pixel perfect.

My test is at:

http://modernflow.com/tests/table_test.html

Right now the layout is in tables (ugly, but it does the trick sort  
of). I read through the internet and found that setting 100% height  
on parent elements allows the table to go 100% high. This is working  
except the first row is taller than expected. I have an image 234px  
high that goes in the center column. I can't get the row to be 234px  
high. I've been reading the CSS2 spec and have learned quite a bit  
about the rendering model in CSS2. However, I can't seem to solve  
this one cross-browser.

I've tried min-height, height, max-height...

Can anyone help?
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[css-d] minor IE hover problem

2006-06-18 Thread Andy Mosmiller
Yes, that makes perfect sense, because I changed my link styles since
the last time I had checked the hovers on those images.  This should be
easy to fix in my IEfixes file too.

Thanks!

Andy

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Re: [css-d] Multiple class name support

2006-06-18 Thread Sam Brown
Sunday, June 18, 2006, 6:17:21 AM, Rizky wrote:

R> all modern browsers supports them quite well I guess. I've never had 
R> problems with multiple class names before. used it all the time ;) and
R> specificity is very much depends on the order of classes within the 
R> style sheet file, not the ones in the html. so I guess the answer is no.
R> cmiiw

Actually, IE has issues with multiple selectors. Not that it doesn't
work, just that there are caveats (that have bitten me several times).

Refer to the wiki for details:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=MultipleClasses

R> Jing Xue wrote:
>> I'm just wondering how well is the multi-class feature (i.e. class="style1
>> style2 style3") supported in various browsers. Also, is there any significant
>> difference between browsers in terms of how the order of class names affects
>> the specificity/style precedence?


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Re: [css-d] Multiple class name support

2006-06-18 Thread Rizky
all modern browsers supports them quite well I guess. I've never had 
problems with multiple class names before. used it all the time ;) and 
specificity is very much depends on the order of classes within the 
style sheet file, not the ones in the html. so I guess the answer is no. 
cmiiw

- Rizky


Jing Xue wrote:
> I'm just wondering how well is the multi-class feature (i.e. class="style1
> style2 style3") supported in various browsers. Also, is there any significant
> difference between browsers in terms of how the order of class names affects
> the specificity/style precedence?
>   
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Re: [css-d] Background Image on Blockquote Hidden Under FloatedImage

2006-06-18 Thread Els
Duckworth, Nigel wrote:
> Els,
>
> Fantastic, thank you! I should have thought of trying
> overflow: hidden, I tried everything and the kitchen sink but
> that. This would be ideal since I don't have to change the
> markup (which I don't have control of).

Looking at it again later today, I found that if you replace the 
height with zoom:1, you won't need hacks to hide anything. 
Overflow:hidden or auto doesn't interfere with zoom:1 like it 
does with height :-)

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Re: [css-d] Horizontal list issue

2006-06-18 Thread Michael Herring
> I'm trying to create a horizontal navigation menu where each list item
> contains an image and descriptive text. I want the image to be  
> centered
> within the item and also be block so that the text is below it.
>
> Here's what the HTML looks like:
>
> 
> 
>
>This paragraph explains the item.
> 
> 
>
>This paragraph explains the item 2.
> 
> 


Does this not work?

li img {
display: block;
margin: 0 auto;
}
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Re: [css-d] Background Image on Blockquote Hidden Under Floated Image

2006-06-18 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
Franky, 

I like your mutations! I will take a closer look at this tonight and if
the markup changes aren't to radical I might go with this, in any case
it's nice to have choice.  

Thanks for your input - much appreciated! 

Regards, 

-Nigel


-Original Message-
From: francky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 5:17 AM
To: Els
Cc: Duckworth, Nigel; css list list
Subject: Re: [css-d] Background Image on Blockquote Hidden Under Floated
Image


Els wrote:

>[...]
>If you give blockquote overflow:hidden or overflow:auto, the
>problem is solved in Firefox and Opera.
>If you give blockquote a height, the problem is solved in IE.
>Use hacks to hide the overflow from IE and the height from 
>Firefox :-)
>
>Tested only in IE6, Opera 8.54 and FF1.5.
>  
>
Hi and good morning (anyway for Els it's morning),
In the meantime I was playing with a hackless solution, by making a 
sidebar-div and a content-div.
See testpage over here 
.
Comments are inside src code.
Tested only in IE6, Opera7.54, Opera8.01 and FF1.07.

Greetings,
francky

oh, all test results: positive ;-)



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[css-d] Multiple class name support

2006-06-18 Thread Jing Xue
Hi,

I'm just wondering how well is the multi-class feature (i.e. class="style1
style2 style3") supported in various browsers. Also, is there any significant
difference between browsers in terms of how the order of class names affects
the specificity/style precedence?

Thanks for any advice or pointers.
--Jing Xue

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Re: [css-d] Background Image on Blockquote Hidden Under Floated Image

2006-06-18 Thread Duckworth, Nigel
Els, 

Fantastic, thank you! I should have thought of trying overflow: hidden,
I tried everything and the kitchen sink but that. This would be ideal
since I don't have to change the markup (which I don't have control of).


Regards, 

-Nigel

-Original Message-
From: Els [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:31 AM
To: Duckworth, Nigel; css list list
Subject: Re: [css-d] Background Image on Blockquote Hidden Under Floated
Image


Duckworth, Nigel wrote:
> Greetings All,

Hi,

> I'm working on a page which contains posts with an author image 
> floated left, the text of the post down the right and wraps around the

> image. A problem occurs when there are blockquotes in the post. The 
> blockquote has a background image quote mark and it disappears under 
> the floated image. A similar thing is happening with DIV.hb, it's 
> background image disappears but only in Firefox. Some posts will have 
> the floated image while others will not, so I have to take into
> account both scenarios.

[snip]

> Markup with CSS here:
> http://newcleardesigns.com/lab/

If you give blockquote overflow:hidden or overflow:auto, the 
problem is solved in Firefox and Opera.
If you give blockquote a height, the problem is solved in IE. Use hacks
to hide the overflow from IE and the height from 
Firefox :-)

Tested only in IE6, Opera 8.54 and FF1.5.

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Re: [css-d] Columns selectable in isolation

2006-06-18 Thread Jim Nannery
Morning Frans

You wrote
> Hi everyone,
>
> Look at the attached XHTML.
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[css-d] Columns selectable in isolation

2006-06-18 Thread Frans Englich

Hi everyone,

Look at the attached XHTML.

Apart from being simply a code listing combined with line listing at the side, 
it has the interesting property that when one selects the code, the column 
containing the line numbers is not selected.

Anyone has an idea for how to solve this with a CSS-only solution?


Cheers,

Frans
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Re: [css-d] Background Image on Blockquote Hidden Under Floated Image

2006-06-18 Thread francky
Els wrote:

>[...]
>If you give blockquote overflow:hidden or overflow:auto, the 
>problem is solved in Firefox and Opera.
>If you give blockquote a height, the problem is solved in IE.
>Use hacks to hide the overflow from IE and the height from 
>Firefox :-)
>
>Tested only in IE6, Opera 8.54 and FF1.5.
>  
>
Hi and good morning (anyway for Els it's morning),
In the meantime I was playing with a hackless solution, by making a 
sidebar-div and a content-div.
See testpage over here 
.
Comments are inside src code.
Tested only in IE6, Opera7.54, Opera8.01 and FF1.07.

Greetings,
francky

oh, all test results: positive ;-)



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Re: [css-d] Background Image on Blockquote Hidden Under Floated Image

2006-06-18 Thread Els
Duckworth, Nigel wrote:
> Greetings All,

Hi,

> I'm working on a page which contains posts with an author
> image floated left, the text of the post down the right and
> wraps around the image. A problem occurs when there are
> blockquotes in the post. The blockquote has a background image
> quote mark and it disappears under the floated image. A
> similar thing is happening with DIV.hb, it's background image
> disappears but only in Firefox. Some posts will have the
> floated image while others will not, so I have to take into
> account both scenarios.

[snip]

> Markup with CSS here:
> http://newcleardesigns.com/lab/

If you give blockquote overflow:hidden or overflow:auto, the 
problem is solved in Firefox and Opera.
If you give blockquote a height, the problem is solved in IE.
Use hacks to hide the overflow from IE and the height from 
Firefox :-)

Tested only in IE6, Opera 8.54 and FF1.5.

-- 
Els
http://locusmeus.com/
http://locusoptimus.com/ 


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