Re: [css-d] search box

2008-02-04 Thread Jason Pruim
CSS won't help with the actual function of the search... just the way  
the results are displayed. I would recommend checking into one of the  
many scripting languages out there for searching. It also depends on  
what you are searching.

Right now I am working on a website with a function for php to search  
a database, but that search function won't help me find content on a  
website unless my entire website is in the database :)

What exactly do you want to be able to search for?


On Feb 4, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Terri Houston wrote:

 Can someone help me with css code for a search box that stays within  
 my website?  I want the search to take the visitor to the item  
 searched, not to a page of my own personal search engine.  I hope  
 I'm making my self clear.  Thank you for your help.

 Terri
 www.ttcollectiblegifts.com
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[css-d] search box

2008-02-04 Thread Terri Houston
Can someone help me with css code for a search box that stays within my 
website?  I want the search to take the visitor to the item searched, not to a 
page of my own personal search engine.  I hope I'm making my self clear.  Thank 
you for your help.

Terri
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Re: [css-d] Noob with float/div problems

2008-02-04 Thread Arlen Walker

On Feb 2, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Ken Davies wrote:

 I will be trying to see what this does with some adjustments,  
 thanks but please clarify
 you show #banner each line. Is there a reason other than MY future  
 reference?

Specificity. I wanted to only affect an img in the div id'ed as banner:

img [ float: left }

applies float left to every img in the entire document.

#banner img {float:left}

applies float left to every img in a container with the ID of banner.

#banner img#logo {float: right}

applies float right to the img ID'ed as logo in the container id'ed  
as banner.

On this subject, if you're ever interested in knowing precisely what  
a bit of CSS means, don't forget the Selectoracle at http:// 
gallery.theopalgroup.com/selectoracle/

 Also if reference in a stylesheet is to an img should that preface  
 the #name-ie img#name.

img#name selects the img with the ID of name

#name img selects all images inside a container with the ID of name.

Have Fun,
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[css-d] Suckerfish Drop-Down breaks on IE6

2008-02-04 Thread John Gribben
Hello,

 

I'm trying to make a sucker-fish-style drop-down menu (a hybrid that also
uses sprites for the top level items), but it's not working on IE6.

 

There seems to be a problem with the content div that sits immediately below
the menu.  If I isolate the menu from all other code on the page, it works
fine. But if I place just one div beneath the menu, on IE6, the drop-down
disappears after my cursor passes over the first menu item.  It's as if the
z-index of the adjacent item exceeds that of the drop-down, although this is
not the case.  Here is the page with the example:

 

http://windows.pedrera.com/clients/greenbaum/nav.asp

 

Thanks,

John

 

John Gribben

Pedrera, Inc.

215 348 7446

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http://www.pedrera.com http://www.pedrera.com/ 

 

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[css-d] Hover state background remains

2008-02-04 Thread Tim Offenstein
I'm helping out on a page 
(https://webtools.uiuc.edu/webservices/temp/toolbox.html) that uses 
Javascript for rollovers in the top navbar. I've replaced it with CSS 
on this page - http://www.ahs.uiuc.edu/toolbox/toolbox-2.htm - 
however when you follow any of the links and then come back to the 
page, the hover state background remains until you hit refresh 
(except in Opera  Safari). (The specific CSS is here - 
http://www.ahs.uiuc.edu/toolbox/styles/header2.css.) Any ideas on how 
to make the visited state show up when coming back to the page?

-Tim
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Re: [css-d] scrolling in IE7 when you increase text size

2008-02-04 Thread Jason Pruim
Hi Sandy,

I don't know how to fix it... but if you want to see what it's doing  
this is a great page:
http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php


On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Sandy wrote:


 hey all,

 http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/publications/paper01b.html#skip

 http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/ca.css
 http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/menu2.css
 http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/ie6-hacks.css
 http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/ie7-hacks.css

 in IE 7 if you increase the zoom
 level (control in lower right corner) you have to do horizontal  
 scrolling to
 read the entire text.

 I am on a mac, and I can't test this. Using FireFox, Safari and Opera
 this isn't a problem. What's up with IE7? How can I fix this?

 thanks loads!
 Sandy
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[css-d] scrolling in IE7 when you increase text size

2008-02-04 Thread Sandy

hey all,

http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/publications/paper01b.html#skip

http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/ca.css
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/menu2.css
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/ie6-hacks.css
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/ie7-hacks.css

 in IE 7 if you increase the zoom
 level (control in lower right corner) you have to do horizontal scrolling to
 read the entire text.

I am on a mac, and I can't test this. Using FireFox, Safari and Opera 
this isn't a problem. What's up with IE7? How can I fix this?

thanks loads!
Sandy
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Re: [css-d] scrolling in IE7 when you increase text size

2008-02-04 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Sandy wrote:

 http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/publications/paper01b.html#skip
- -
 in IE 7 if you increase the zoom
 level (control in lower right corner) you have to do horizontal
 scrolling to read the entire text.

Is this a quotation from somewhere? A user's report?

Anyway, the answer is works as designed. The zoom control in IE 7 (a 
novelty, didn't exist in IE 6) is for zooming everything, so a zoom 
larger than 100 % inevitably introduces horizontal scroll bar - on _any_ 
page. It is _not_ a text size control. It affects the page as a whole, 
including images and maintaining the layout.

IE also has text size control, which only affects the font size of text 
and generally causes the layout to be reformatted, so on fluid design 
pages, no horizontal scroll bar appears. IE users might not know about 
this and might take the zoom control for it, since there is no button 
for it by default. The user needs to use the View command to find the 
text size control menu (and he _can_ modify the button bar to contain 
the text size control). Moreover, the text size control has five 
alternative sizes only, and it does not affect texts that have their 
font size set, in a page's style sheet, in pixels or points (unless the 
user takes action to override all font size settings on web pages, which 
can be done but is rarely known and rarely done). For your page, the 
latter is not a problem since it apparently does not set font size or 
sets it in relative units.

 What's up with IE7? How can I fix this?

There's nothing you need to do and nothing you can do about it, but you 
might wish to pass forward the information on IE usage to the user(s) 
who reported the problem. (It's a real problem to them, of course - 
they're confused with the zoom function.)

Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca)
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ 

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[css-d] What Margin Unit Does IE6 Want?

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Akins
Validated page with included styles is here:

www.springfieldmo.gov/egov/cityclerk/minutes_testHtags.html

Everything is fine except for the h2 class=description items.  These are
the left hand, called out headers.  They are supposed to line up vertically
with the text to the right of them, which they do everywhere but IE6 (don't
have IE7 to test).  Firefox, Safari on Mac are great as well as Firefox on
PC.

I'm using a top margin unit of 1 em on those elements to push them into
place, but in IE6 this unit lets them move around with text re-sizing.  That
doesn't happen in the other browsers.

So what unit should I use that IE will like?  I was trying to go with em's
for the very reason of keeping things consistent even with text sizing.

Thanks for any tips.

Chris
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Re: [css-d] site check please

2008-02-04 Thread David Laakso
Sandy wrote:
 I am working on a web site, and I would be grateful if you could take 
 the time to look at a rough version of it, and let me know what you think.

 http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/index.html


 Any comments or suggestions are much appreciated!


 Sandy

   



You may want check you pages in IE/6, IE/7, and the Gecko's at 800 with 
and without a little font-scaling.

On a nothing to do with CSS, does it make a difference, or who cares, 
aside: If you are seeking /an opinion/, mine is that this information:

Skip to content
  Search:  Search

main menu

* About Us
* Contact
* Presentations
* Publications
* Resources
* Services

should appear on the screen as you have it, but be called from beneath 
the primary content and above the footer. And that Go to top (in the 
footer) is not necessary or needed.



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[css-d] site check please

2008-02-04 Thread Sandy
hello all,

I am working on a web site, and I would be grateful if you could take 
the time to look at a rough version of it, and let me know what you think.

http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/index.html

the first level pages are all done, as well as the pages in the 
presentations section.

Publications has a few internal pages
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/publications/pub_access.html
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/publications/paper01b.html
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/publications/pub_keyboard.html

Services has one internal page
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/services/att.html

One of the things I have done is use h5 positioned off screen to 
identify menus, so that JAWS users using headings to navigate can get a 
sense of how the page is laid out. Does this make sense to you guys out 
there? Is there a better way to do this?

Any comments or suggestions are much appreciated!

Thanks for your help,
Sandy
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Re: [css-d] scrolling in IE7 when you increase text size

2008-02-04 Thread Sandy
Jason,

Thanks for getting back to me.

Sadly, a screen capture won't show me this. I need to be able to use the 
browser controls - the page only breaks when you increase the text size. 
It's ok as long as you don't mess with it.

This is a great service, though, *way* faster than browsercam!
Sandy

  I don't know how to fix it... but if you want to see what it's doing
 this is a great page:
 http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php
 
 
 On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Sandy wrote:
 
 
hey all,

http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/publications/paper01b.html#skip

http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/ca.css
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/menu2.css
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/ie6-hacks.css
http://cantoraccess.com/beta_sandy2/css/ie7-hacks.css


in IE 7 if you increase the zoom
level (control in lower right corner) you have to do horizontal  
scrolling to
read the entire text.

I am on a mac, and I can't test this. Using FireFox, Safari and Opera
this isn't a problem. What's up with IE7? How can I fix this?

thanks loads!
Sandy
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Re: [css-d] What Margin Unit Does IE6 Want?

2008-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Akins wrote:

 www.springfieldmo.gov/egov/cityclerk/minutes_testHtags.html
 
 Everything is fine except for the h2 class=description items. 
 These are the left hand, called out headers.  They are supposed to 
 line up vertically with the text to the right of them, which they do 
 everywhere but IE6 (don't have IE7 to test).  Firefox, Safari on Mac 
 are great as well as Firefox on PC.
 
 I'm using a top margin unit of 1 em on those elements to push them 
 into place, but in IE6 this unit lets them move around with text 
 re-sizing.  That doesn't happen in the other browsers.

One part of the problem in IE/win comes from the em font-resizing bug...

http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_13.html

...and the other part from the fact that defaults are not identical
across browser-land.

If you add...

html {font-size: 100%;}

...to fix that IE/win bug, and thereafter declare suitable *and*
identical margin-top on both the .description and the p, the line-up
will be near perfect in all browsers - including IE/win.

regards
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Re: [css-d] What Margin Unit Does IE6 Want?

2008-02-04 Thread Jim Davis
Chris,

You may find it more efficient to zero out the margins etc. then set the
variables to your liking. Thus your chosen rules will apply across all
browser types. Something like:
 h2 {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border: 0;
outline: 0;
font-weight: inherit;
font-style: inherit;
}

Then enter h2 again and set the rules to fit your design.

If you want to jump in with both feet read Eric Meyer Reset info here:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/05/01/reset-reloaded/

Jim

On Feb 4, 2008 10:50 AM, Chris Akins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Validated page with included styles is here:

 www.springfieldmo.gov/egov/cityclerk/minutes_testHtags.html

 Everything is fine except for the h2 class=description items.  These
 are
 the left hand, called out headers.  They are supposed to line up
 vertically
 with the text to the right of them, which they do everywhere but IE6
 (don't
 have IE7 to test).  Firefox, Safari on Mac are great as well as Firefox on
 PC.



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Re: [css-d] printing online forms

2008-02-04 Thread Richard Grevers
On 2/2/08, Jessica Tanny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello --

 I'm the webmaster for a regional archives organization who have asked me to 
 update an online member application form.

 They do not want members to email the form to them, but rather fill in the 
 form online, print it out, and mail it in. I know this could be accomplished 
 very easily with a PDF form, but I think the idea is to be as user-friendly 
 (and accessible) as possible, so we've tried to limit the number of PDFs on 
 the site...

 So... since I am in the process of teaching myself tableless design with CSS 
 and thought I'd start here. I built the form with CSS (with many thanks to 
 CSS Mastery by Andy Budd), but now I need it to print properly.

 I've created a print stylesheet and now the biggest issue I'm having is 
 getting the checkbox columns to work in the print-out. They look great on the 
 screen and they print really awful... I'm trying so hard to make this work, 
 but I'm not exactly sure what I am doing wrong.

 Here is the online form:
 http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/members/member-app.html

 Here is the form stylesheet:
 http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/forms.css

 Here is the print stylesheet:
 http://www.lib.umd.edu/MARAC/print.css

 Any suggestions or resources you could point me to?

Your checkboxes are still governed by the rule
input {width: 400px;} and it appears that most browsers center a
standard checkbox widget in the defined width if it is greater than
the minimum necessary.
The following should correct it:

input.checkbox {width:auto;}

By the way I'm not sure about the frustration level of asking people
to print a form which includes half a dozen select fields (they have
to remember to make all the selections prior to printing, especially
as the choose one text gets in the way of them simply writing their
response in the box.)

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Re: [css-d] Nested Horizontal Menu Problem

2008-02-04 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 I am trying to create a nested horizontal menu at the bottom of my Web
 page.
 
 I got it to work just the way I'd like on a test page (where the menu
 is
 the only thing on the page): http://outtacontext.com/list5b.html. But
 when
 I put into my Web page, all the links are pushed together (see the
 bottom of the page): http://inourpath.com/about.html.
 
 It seems that some style for the site itself is affecting the
 css/placement of this menu. But for the life of me, I can't figure it
 out.
 I need some fresh eyes or a workaround.

Hi Jeff,
Try this:
Remove the inline styles you have on the LIs
Remove the width and the max-width from the #TJK_dropDownMenu li {} rule
Change the padding value in the #TJK_dropDownMenu li a {} rule, from 0 7em
to 0 1em
Change the width value in the #TJK_dropDownMenu li ul {} rule, from 30em
to 100%

Feel free to reply off-list if you want.

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Re: [css-d] printing online forms

2008-02-04 Thread Stephan Wehner
On Feb 4, 2008 12:47 PM, Richard Grevers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/2/08, Jessica Tanny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
:
:

 By the way I'm not sure about the frustration level of asking people
 to print a form which includes half a dozen select fields (they have
 to remember to make all the selections prior to printing, especially
 as the choose one text gets in the way of them simply writing their
 response in the box.)

One way around that is to make the submit button validate. On submit
the server produces a nicely formatted
application with all the values from the form filled in. It has
instructions to print and mail in (with address), a link Print, and
the print-style-sheet masks all the customary webpage decorations, so
that a simple application letter results.

Stephan


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[css-d] Nested Horizontal Menu Problem

2008-02-04 Thread Jeff Gates
I am trying to create a nested horizontal menu at the bottom of my Web  
page.   

I got it to work just the way I'd like on a test page (where the menu is
the only thing on the page): http://outtacontext.com/list5b.html. But when  
I put into my Web page, all the links are pushed together (see the  
bottom of the page): http://inourpath.com/about.html.   

It seems that some style for the site itself is affecting the   
css/placement of this menu. But for the life of me, I can't figure it out.  
I need some fresh eyes or a workaround. 

Thanks, Jeff  



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Re: [css-d] Crashing IE7 with CSS a.k.a. IE7 doesn't like button[value]

2008-02-04 Thread Merkey, Brett
 A few days ago, while testing for coherence in a webpage, IE7 
 crashed on me.
 I've isolated the offending code here:
 http://www.mundoplus.tv/atnbueno/ie7crash.html
 
 After a few tests (actually, a lot of them) I've found it's 
 simply more of IE lack of support for the button tag. No 
 CSS applied to button[value] is shown, and any value for 
 value crashes (closes down) the current IE window. So 
 remember, don't style with the button[value] selector.

Yes, the code effectively crashes my IE7 immediately. 
I don't think the problem is the button tag, which I have
used extensively for many years.

The problem in the code on that page is the lack of a space
between the two parts of the selector. Add a space and no
crash. 

Still, you are right. Pretty pathetic.

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[css-d] background-image and background-color question

2008-02-04 Thread Big Moxy
Hi All,

The background image on this page - 
http://www.cargovango.com/misc_equip.htm - is 2000px high and repeats at 
the bottom of the page.  I have removed the top 108px and set a new 
repeating background that only contains the vertical lines.

My question is can I combine the header image with the solid gray such 
that the solid gray only appears at the top of the page? I know I'm 
constrained by the pageDef width but wonder if there is another way.

Thank you!
Tim

body
{
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
background-color: #FF;
color : #00;
height: 100%;
font-size: 12px;
background-image: url(../images/bg2.gif);
background-repeat: repeat;
}
#pageDef {
width: 700px;
background-color: #FF;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
overflow: hidden;
}

body
div id=pageDef
div style=background-color:#CC;border-bottom:solid 1px 
#00;margin:0;width:700px;
img src=/images/header.gif width=700 height=108 
alt=www.CargoVanGo.com /
/div
div id=content
hr noshade=noshade /
!-- #include virtual=/includes/rightContent.aspx --
div id=contentPad
div id=pageTitleEquipment For Sale/div

... etc ...



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Re: [css-d] background-image and background-color question

2008-02-04 Thread David Laakso
Big Moxy wrote:
 http://www.cargovango.com/misc_equip.htm

 My question is can I combine the header image with the solid gray such 
 that the solid gray only appears at the top of the page? I know I'm 
 constrained by the pageDef width but wonder if there is another way.


 Tim
   



Would it be best to begin here?:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cargovango.com%2Fmisc_equip.htm

Regards,

~dL
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[css-d] weird safari width issue

2008-02-04 Thread Josh Ghiloni
ok, i suppose weird isn't really apropos there.

I have a 2-div layout. The left div's width is set to 180px and is a
sidebar. The right div has no width or position set, and it just floats to
the right of the div, and takes the remainder of its container's space up.
Its overflow property is set to hidden.

Inside the right div is a table that is longer than the div itself. I have
the overflow property set to auto, and in IE and firefox the scroll bars
show up going only to the edge of the container, much like i'd expect.
However, on Safari, the table believes that its containing div is really
100% wide and attempts to fill it up. Has anyone seen anything like that in
Safari, and more importantly, do you know of a fix?

Here are some screenshots of the issue at hand.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h128/fobaysnrl2/ffoverflow.png
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h128/fobaysnrl2/ieoverflow.png
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h128/fobaysnrl2/safoverflow.png

Thanks!
Josh
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[css-d] [ccs-d] Problem width on div nested - IE 6

2008-02-04 Thread Luca Pellanda
http://win.fluiddesignlab.com/hydroven/

Content Div have some problem on IE6,
it's too big (185px)... but on IE 7, FF 1.5, FF2, Opera 9
work correctly.

Can someone help me? Where is the bug?
Thanks

Luca
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[css-d] Problem width on div nested - IE 6

2008-02-04 Thread Luca Pellanda
http://win.fluiddesignlab.com/hydroven/

Content Div have some problem on IE6,
it's too big (185px)... but on IE 7, FF 1.5, FF2, Opera 9
work correctly.

Can someone help me? Where is the bug?
Thanks

Luca
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Re: [css-d] background-image and background-color question

2008-02-04 Thread Big Moxy
David,

I didn't create the current site and want to distance myself as much as 
possible from it. I am converting it to .NET and making significant CSS 
changes too.

Tim

David Laakso wrote:
 Big Moxy wrote:
 http://www.cargovango.com/misc_equip.htm

 My question is can I combine the header image with the solid gray 
 such that the solid gray only appears at the top of the page? I know 
 I'm constrained by the pageDef width but wonder if there is another way.


 Tim
   



 Would it be best to begin here?:

 http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cargovango.com%2Fmisc_equip.htm
  


 Regards,

 ~dL

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Re: [css-d] [ccs-d] Problem width on div nested - IE 6

2008-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luca Pellanda wrote:
 http://win.fluiddesignlab.com/hydroven/
 
 Content Div have some problem on IE6, it's too big (185px)... but
 on IE 7, FF 1.5, FF2, Opera 9 work correctly.

IE6 doesn't respect declared dimensions, and will always expand an
element until its content fits inside - it's a genuine IE/win bug.
Can't see what's pushing, but the following addition will fix IE6' bug...

#content_box {overflow-x: hidden;}

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Re: [css-d] background-image and background-color question

2008-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Big Moxy wrote:
 My question is can I combine the header image with the solid gray 
 such that the solid gray only appears at the top of the page? I know 
 I'm constrained by the pageDef width but wonder if there is another 
 way.

Only by adding another container that stretches with the page-content
and fills the body, and set the gray background-image on that without
repeating it vertically.

Multiple (CSS) backgrounds would also solve it, but support isn't good
enough for practical use yet.

regards
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Re: [css-d] background-image and background-color question

2008-02-04 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Big Moxy wrote:

 My question is can I combine the header image with the solid gray such
 that the solid gray only appears at the top of the page? I know I'm
 constrained by the pageDef width but wonder if there is another way.

html {background: #ccc url(./stripped-png) repeat 50% 0;}
body {background: transparent url(./flat-grey-with-a bottom- 
border.gif) repeat-x 50% 0;}

stripped.gif is a fragment of your current background-image, can be as  
small as 10px by 10px, covers the whole viewport/document.

Philippe
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