Re: [css-d] Problem with clearing DIVs - I think - ALL SORTED, Thanks

2008-02-14 Thread Nicole Aebi
Big thank you. All sorted and shiny:-)


David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicole Aebi wrote:
 Thanks. So near and yet so far! I've managed to get it working for the 
 photos but the news bit just ends up all crammed under the first news 
 story.

 Stuck :-)
 Nicole

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Reference uri:

 


Oh my, that will never do (smacks self alongside head). See if this is 
more like what you want-- you'll see changes in the embedded css and in 
the markup:



Best,

~dL





   
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Re: [css-d] background images in divs

2008-02-14 Thread Kristina Floyd
On 11/02/2008, Carrie Strongwater Drazin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 We are trying to put dividers between paragraphs using background images
 in divs but, they never show up. Should we not be using divs?



HI Carrie

Do you have a url we could look at?

Thanks
Kristina
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Re: [css-d] Bullet list position problem In IE

2008-02-14 Thread Kristina Floyd
On 12/02/2008, adriana escandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem is that in IE, the bullets appear on the last line of the
 sentences of the list instead of on the first one. One sentence from the
 list that appears in three lines has its corresponding bullet next to the
 third line. I don't have that problem in FF.


HI Adriana

Do you have a url we can see, it will help us immensely in helping you.

Thanks
Kristina
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[css-d] setting background colour

2008-02-14 Thread Kristina Floyd
Hi all

I've always learnt that setting the background colour on a site is a very
basic thing to do and shows that as a web developer you've taken care and
pride in your work.

All of the browsers that I use I have set a ridiculously garish background
colour set to remind myself to do it.  I am teased relentlessly for this.
However it is important to me.

It never ceases to amaze me the number of sites that do not set a background
colour.  As if adding body { background-color: #FF; } is a really
tedious task.

I'm curious to know your thoughts on this matter, as it literally drives me
bonkers.  I am fully aware that we have moved on from the default grey
background of Netscape 3(?) and by default browsers will set their
background colours to white.  Does this mean it's okay for developers to be
lazy and sloppy and not bother to set it.  Or am I just too old school
(eep!!) and set in my ways.

Looking forward to your opinions.

Thanks
Kristina
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Re: [css-d] setting background colour

2008-02-14 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Kristina Floyd wrote:

 I've always learnt that setting the background colour on a site is a
 very basic thing to do and shows that as a web developer you've taken
 care and pride in your work.

Sounds strange.

 All of the browsers that I use I have set a ridiculously garish
 background colour set to remind myself to do it.  I am teased
 relentlessly for this. However it is important to me.

It's up to you to do so, and you can even enforce it on all pages by 
tuning your browser settings to override backgrounds set on web pages.

 It never ceases to amaze me the number of sites that do not set a
 background colour.

I don't see anything amazing in the idea of letting the browser and her 
user decide the overall background and matching text and link colors. 
It's a very sensible thing to do at least until you know how set all of 
them properly in your author style sheet.

 As if adding body { background-color: #FF; }
 is a really tedious task.

That would coincide with the most common default these days. If the 
browser setting is something different, maybe there's a reason.

But the technical side of the matter, which is what this list is really 
about, is that it's not safe at all. It _only_ sets the background 
color, without setting background image or text color. What about link 
colors then?

_If_ you set background color, you should, for safety and robustness, 
set all the related settings too. Minimally,

body { background: #FFF; color: #000; }

together with settings for link colors and backgrounds.

Even this isn't really safe. What if the monitor has been configured to 
show #FF as truly pure white, which really hurts the eye? Maybe the 
browser has been accordingly set to use something less pure - but the 
page style sheet would override this. I don't think this is crucial, but 
mainly because there's really no constructive way to deal with this 
issue, but I'd draw the conclusion that
maybe something a little different from pure white is better than 
#FF.

Jukka K. Korpela (Yucca)
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ 

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Re: [css-d] setting background colour

2008-02-14 Thread David Laakso
Kristina Floyd wrote:
 All of the browsers that I use I have set a ridiculously garish background
 colour set to remind myself to do it.  I am teased relentlessly for this.
 However it is important to me.



 Kristina
   


I set fuchsia on one browser to remind myself to set a background-color, 
too. During the course of an average day of surfing the Web, the number 
of sites picking up that color is extremely high.

There may be a CSS question here but I am not sure what it is...

Best,

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Re: [css-d] strange gaps 2

2008-02-14 Thread Erland Flaten
It looks more and more as it should because of your valuble input. Its  
more or less correct on Safari. Some errors on grapics I will do later.

I have put a negative margin on -9px, same is the height of background  
grapic, on #horisontalkors. If I go over 9px, the grapicelement on I  
guess the #vertcalcrossupper,  will show. So I tried to put the  
collapsing margin stuff  on the footer DIV

#footer {
margin: -1px 0 0 0;
padding: 1px 0 0 81px;

- Is some more margin tricks on the footer the way to go ? If I  
increase to -10px margin on top of the footer it will stay where it  
should, but then the DIV #horisontalkors goes away on safari. It get  
coverd I guess. Its now on-7px. As you see Its almost there in IE 6  
and partially coverd in SAfari/Firefox


- In IE 6 the #sidebar2 and #maincontent DIvs have different heights  
even if the height is set and image in the #sidebar2 is 319px

Its now on http://www.nuna.no/ahus/forside_posted.html


Den 14. feb.. 2008 kl. 10.45 skrev Gunlaug Sørtun:

 Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
 Erland Flaten wrote:

 - There is also a gap between the footer and botom of this DIVs

 The addition of...

 #container #horisontalkors {
 margin-top: (some suitable value);
 }

 The above is a bit incomplete, as that suitable value should be
 negative - probably around '-25px ... -30px' - in order to create the
 intended line-up.

   Georg
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Re: [css-d] setting background colour

2008-02-14 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, Kristina...

I think making use of background color, or even better to me, setting
background images, usually are a great way to enhance the look of a page
and control the user experience.

Concerning the nature of your post...
I think best practice CSS discussions of a more general nature like
your question about whether or not to make use of the background in design
is important to this list.  A discussion of *whether* something should be
done should always proceed a technical discussion of *how* something should
be done.  To segregate the two types of discussion makes us simply technicians
with no soul for design...and that would be at odds with the purpose of CSS
in the first place.

Just my .02 ...

Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Kristina Floyd
 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:18 AM
 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: [css-d] setting background colour
 
 Hi all
 
 I've always learnt that setting the background colour on a site is a very
 basic thing to do and shows that as a web developer you've taken care and
 pride in your work.
 
 I'm curious to know your thoughts on this matter, as it literally drives me
 bonkers.  
 
 
 Thanks
 Kristina



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Re: [css-d] Fwd: IE7 a display:block issue

2008-02-14 Thread vincent pollard
Hi Philippe, Rafael and all,

Unfortunately i don't have a public URL as our testing servers are internal
onlybut the doctype we're using is:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;

I'm just the CSS/graphics guy in the office :) i don't have much control
over the .NET code the developers write and how it spits out HTML (although
we are moving towards more compliant code and using stuff like CSS
Adapters).

Vince

On 12/02/2008, Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (I'm sure Rafael intended to send this to the list)

 Begin forwarded message:

  From: Rafael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: February 13, 2008 11:46:25 AM JST
  To: Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [css-d] IE7 a display:block issue
  User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031)
 
  Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
  On Feb 13, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Rafael wrote:
 
Try triggering /hasLayout/[1] on your *a*'s. One of the easiest
  ways
  to do so is by setting the MS-only property 'zoom' (i.e. zoom:1)
  -- if
  you care about your code being valid, then don't use this property.
 
  [1]http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
 
  vincent pollard wrote:
 
  hi!
 
  so, i have:
 
  .headerTwoRight a {
  text-decoration: none;
  display: block;
  height: 42px
  }
 
  The link already triggers 'hasLayout', as 'height'  is specified
  in  the stylesheet.
 
You're right, I didn't put attention to the height.
 
  One problem of course (assuming I read that ASP stuff correctly):
   a href= pxxx/p/a
  is invalid html.
 
You're right here too, it *does* have an image and a paragraph
  inside the link. That points me to question: what DOCTYPE are you
  using, Vincent? Is there a page we can actually see?

 I'll echo the request for a live url.
 That makes things much (MUCH) easier to debug.

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[css-d] My first tableless site - Need Advice on css mistakes.

2008-02-14 Thread Cynthia Villegas
Hi Everyone, 

I designed site based only on floating css. It's the first time I've done this, 
and it renders ok (according to me) on the latest versions of Firefox, Safari 
and Opera. 

I have no ways of testing this on IE (mac user). 

This is my test site and my site so far:

http://homepage.mac.com/cynvill_3/website/index.html

Any advice on mistakes or problems rendering on different browsers would be 
greatly appreciated...

Thanks!

Cynthia


   
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Re: [css-d] Noob Float/div problem still

2008-02-14 Thread Ken Davies
I am probably asking it wrong but I am asking. Possibly a repeat post as 
I had html setting on email, sorry.
Please review and advise.
I have tried using h4, or p  for a line of text below the banner 
separating the menu and gallery. Listed in html as a div I get the line 
as separation but when
I link it to the style sheet for text align etc then I lose the rest. I 
also can't get the menu text to accept a the color gold
On  http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/untitled.htm  
http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/mis/Arlen2.css
The image is only placed so I encounter and deal with problems-it will 
eventually be replaced.
On Unhovergallery
http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/unhovergallery.htm
http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/mis/bannergallery.css
The banner works for me. I want a line of text under it.
As h4 class still I lose the rest of the page, as a div I am holding it 
in place but not  getting the text aligning center. Menu is in gold, 
markers gone Great, but menu doesn't float all the way left.
I have been altering and retrying things but am stymied.
Ken
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Re: [css-d] newbie CSS questions

2008-02-14 Thread AJ Putnam
Thanks, Georg!

So, I did what you indicated.  I went and removed all a:p from the style
sheet.  Really messed with my layout.  i added your short bit of code to the
top and it helped marginally.  so, i am still at a loss.  Demo page:

http://ajputnam.com.sky/discography

and one of the original pages I put up as example:

http://ajputnam.com/sky/ontour

what did I do wrong?

thanks!

Amy

On Feb 13, 2008 10:50 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AJ Putnam wrote:
  http://ajputnam.com/sky/ontour
 
  as you can see, the content table just sort of hangs over the lower
  edge.

 1: delete _all_ instances of 'position: absolute', or else you'll get
 nowhere.
 Absolute positioned elements are treated as if they do not take up any
 space, so the expansion you're expecting can't take place. 'A:P' also
 deactivates 'float', so you'll get no float-behavior.

 2: use margins to push elements into place.

 3: don't restrict height on elements that are supposed to expand with
 content, and clear below floats.

 Pity IE7 doesn't support CSS table, or else you could have started here...

 http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ajp/test_08_0213.html

 ...and just trimmed some margins.

 I've used...

 * {margin-top: 0!important; position: static!important;}
 div {display: table;}

 ...to override the problematic parts of your styles. That works fine in
 Firefox, Opera, and even IE6, but in order to make it work as intended
 across browser-land you'll have to go through your stylesheet and
 correct it line by line.

 BTW: you don't need a layout table, since regular elements - divs - will
 also expand with content when height is unrestricted. The layout table
 does no real harm though.

 regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] newbie CSS questions

2008-02-14 Thread AJ Putnam
ah ha!  that was my problem - I realize now the alignments/placements re in
relation to each other where before they were in relation to the outer edges
of the table.  thank you!

I've done them all but still have one tiny problem that i cannot figure
out.  the pages all look fine in Dreamweaver, but in FF and safari for mac,
the center background graphic has dropped about 1 pixel.  example:

http://ajputnam.com/sky/bio/

home page is causing me a touch of grief too with side divs not showing the
right background color and the center section dropping a little more than
the other pages:

http://ajputnam.com/sky/

Thanks for all of your help.  With this last bit of finesse, I should be
able to finally launch this site!

amy

On Feb 13, 2008 4:55 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AJ Putnam wrote:
  So, I did what you indicated.  I went and removed all a:p from the
  style sheet.  Really messed with my layout.  i added your short bit
  of code to the top and it helped marginally.  so, i am still at a
  loss.

 Delete that short bit of code now, as it was only for demo/debugging
 and serves no purpose anymore.

  what did I do wrong?

 Nothing really - at least not yet, but you have to complete the job.

  2: use margins to push elements into place.

 Which means you have to correct nearly all margins used in your
 stylesheet - especially all those large 'margin-top'.

  3: don't restrict height on elements that are supposed to expand
  with content, and clear below floats.

 Which for that particular page means deleting 'height : 720px;' on
 #tourmiddle.

 Have a look at a reasonably well-aligned example...

 http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ajp/test_08_0213-b.html

 ...that will render the same across browser-land.

 Take a close look at the stylesheet for that example - as seen through
 the validator...

 
 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ajp/test_08_0213-b.htmlwarning=1profile=css21
 

 All those errors are made by me, as I've rendered almost all instances
 of 'margin-top' useless in a way that the validator flags. This way I
 won't have to write about every single one of them.
 Now you correct those margins and give them values that suits your
 layout now that all 'a:p' are gone, and all browsers will render your
 layout properly.

 regards
Georg
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Re: [css-d] background images in divs

2008-02-14 Thread Valerie Wininger
I believe she fixed her problem.  After my initial suggestion to specify a
width/height for those divs, she replied that she got it--I think she meant
to reply to the list, but actually only replied to me.

Valerie
www.valeriewininger.com

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Kristina Floyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 11/02/2008, Carrie Strongwater Drazin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  We are trying to put dividers between paragraphs using background images
  in divs but, they never show up. Should we not be using divs?



 HI Carrie

 Do you have a url we could look at?

 Thanks
 Kristina
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Re: [css-d] My first tableless site - Need Advice on css mistakes.

2008-02-14 Thread Big Moxy
IE runs on Mac. Have you check the MS site or Google'd for a download?

You have several JavaScript errors:

Home - line 11: ; expected
Journalism - line 14: Object doesn't support this property or method
Gallery - line 520: Type mismatch

Tim

Cynthia Villegas wrote:
 Hi Everyone, 

 I designed site based only on floating css. It's the first time I've done 
 this, and it renders ok (according to me) on the latest versions of Firefox, 
 Safari and Opera. 

 I have no ways of testing this on IE (mac user). 

 This is my test site and my site so far:

 http://homepage.mac.com/cynvill_3/website/index.html

 Any advice on mistakes or problems rendering on different browsers would be 
 greatly appreciated...

 Thanks!

 Cynthia



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Re: [css-d] strange gaps 2

2008-02-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Erland Flaten wrote:
 It looks more and more as it should because of your valuble input.
 Its more or less correct on Safari. Some errors on grapics I will do
 later.

 Its now on http://www.nuna.no/ahus/forside_posted.html

As mentioned earlier - change stacking-level.

Didn't test, but I think the addition of...

#horisontalkors {position: relative; z-index: 2;}

...should stack that element visually in front of the others.
With that sorted you can move the relevant containers with their margins
until they line up as you want.

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Re: [css-d] Noob Float/div problem still

2008-02-14 Thread Arlen Walker

On Feb 13, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Ken Davies wrote:

 I am probably asking it wrong but I am asking. Possibly a repeat  
 post as
 I had html setting on email, sorry.
 Please review and advise.
 I have tried using h4, or p  for a line of text below the banner
 separating the menu and gallery. Listed in html as a div I get the  
 line
 as separation but when
 I link it to the style sheet for text align etc then I lose the  
 rest. I
 also can't get the menu text to accept a the color gold
 On  http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/untitled.htm
 http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/mis/Arlen2.css
 The image is only placed so I encounter and deal with problems-it will
 eventually be replaced.

OK, first ditch the msoffice cruft on the html tag. XML namespaces  
don't have any place in HTML 4.01. But that's not css, soo

what's this supposed to be?
#banner { padding: 3px; text-align: center; width: 99%; height:   
53px; border: margin-bottom -10px;}

Starting with the the border attribute, everything's munged. I'm  
not sure what you're trying to do, but the browser will barf, because  
margin-bottom -10px isn't a valid value for border.

Also
p{
text-align: center; font-weight: bolder;
color : #AF962E;
margin-top: -25%; margin-left: 8%;
width: 99%;
line-height: 20px;
clear: both;
}

is unused, as there are no p's in your document. Perhaps instead of  
div id=p you meant to use p. Making that change I get something  
that probably looks the way you want.

Can I ask a question without offending you? Why do you seem to be  
allergic to styling the HTML tags themselves? Instead of styling the  
UL menu, you wrap it in a div and style the div?

Also this selector doesn't make sense in your file:
#navul .left li a .left li a:hover

First, nothing is given class left, so the selector will never find  
anything to apply to it.
Second, even if we delete the reference to left it still won't find  
anything to apply to, as you're asking it to select the a element  
being hovered over, which is within a list item which is within  
another a which is within another list item which is within something  
gievn the id of navul. I think you're missing a comma. When I remove  
the left class, put in the missing comma and the required second  
reference to #navul I get a gold menu. (BTW, if you wanted the menu  
gold all the time, drop left and delete everything after the  first  
a.

You need to do a little more work to understand how to use CSS  
selectors. I'd suggest a good basic book on CSS (The Definitive  
Guide comes to mind) or at the very least do some trial and error  
work with the selectoracle (I posted a link to it a few days ago,  
google it if you missed it.

 On Unhovergallery
 http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/unhovergallery.htm
 http://www.equestrian-jewelry.com/mis/bannergallery.css

I don't even want to begin to try and untangle what you dropped in  
the class of *that* ul. left li, left li a, left li a:hover, left li  
b? It's nonsense. Just delete it completely. I can't even begin to  
guess what you were trying to do there.

Get yourself a current copy of firefox, download the web developer's  
toolbar for it. Use the option Outline-Outline Current Element as  
you move your mouse around the page to see what the various blocks  
actually are, then use the option CSS-View Style Information and  
click on one of the boxes to see what style is being applied to that  
and where it comes from.

Right now you're just shooting in the dark and hoping to hear the  
bullet hit something. Do some reading and exploring and you'll find  
the light switch.

Have Fun,
Arlen

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Re: [css-d] Need help with IMG inside a DIV

2008-02-14 Thread Webmaster
Viewing it with Firefox 2.0.0.12 on Windows Vista Business.

From: vincent pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:21 AM
To: Webmaster
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Need help with IMG inside a DIV

it looks fine on my machine. what are you viewing it on?
On 14/02/2008, Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm having problems with this page: http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/new2.html
The CSS is here: http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/css/box2.css


The problem is easy to spot. The image of the sweatshirt goes outside of the 
DIV. I've attempted to create a separate class for IMG, but that didn't work 
either.  How do I make the DIV expand to contain the image? I always seem to 
have problems with images. Can someone show me where I went wrong? I greatly 
appreciate your help.

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[css-d] Need help with IMG inside a DIV

2008-02-14 Thread Webmaster
I'm having problems with this page: http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/new2.html
The CSS is here: http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/css/box2.css


The problem is easy to spot. The image of the sweatshirt goes outside of the 
DIV. I've attempted to create a separate class for IMG, but that didn't work 
either.  How do I make the DIV expand to contain the image? I always seem to 
have problems with images. Can someone show me where I went wrong? I greatly 
appreciate your help.

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Re: [css-d] Need help with IMG inside a DIV

2008-02-14 Thread Jon Hughes

 The problem is easy to spot. The image of the sweatshirt goes outside
 of the DIV. I've attempted to create a separate class for IMG, but
that
 didn't work either.  How do I make the DIV expand to contain the
image?

Short answer:

Overflow: auto; 

on the .product-even class


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Re: [css-d] My first tableless site - Need Advice on css mistakes.

2008-02-14 Thread David Laakso
Cynthia Villegas wrote:
 This is my test site and my site so far:

 http://homepage.mac.com/cynvill_3/website/index.html

 Any advice on mistakes or problems rendering on different browsers would be 
 greatly appreciated...

 Cynthia

   


You are doing alright on IE/6.0 and IE/7.0, with the exception that  
IE/6 does not support transparent png's.
You'll find a work around here http://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/.
You may or may not want to let go of the frozen (pixel based font-size) 
fonts for IE users.
It's a good idea to validate your CSS and markup.


Best,
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Re: [css-d] My first tableless site - Need Advice on css mistakes.

2008-02-14 Thread Ibrahim Y
hi all..
I've a question about your opinions to improve my skills, are they based on
syntax checking / validating / or just if the website looks fine then it's
good and that's it?

Thanks.

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wrote:

 Cynthia Villegas wrote:
  This is my test site and my site so far:
 
  http://homepage.mac.com/cynvill_3/website/index.html
 
  Any advice on mistakes or problems rendering on different browsers would
 be greatly appreciated...
 
  Cynthia
 
 


 You are doing alright on IE/6.0 and IE/7.0, with the exception that
 IE/6 does not support transparent png's.
 You'll find a work around here http://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/.
 You may or may not want to let go of the frozen (pixel based font-size)
 fonts for IE users.
 It's a good idea to validate your CSS and markup.


 Best,
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[css-d] reply-to address

2008-02-14 Thread Ibrahim Y
Hi folks,

I hope this never been discussed before... I noticed when I want to reply to
any email from the list that the default reply-to address is the email of
the sender not the list, So, every time I have to reply-all or add the list
address manually.
I think it's better to set the default reply-to address to the list not
the sender's email -IMHO- , if it's doable.

any idea?

Thanks,
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Re: [css-d] Need help with IMG inside a DIV

2008-02-14 Thread vincent pollard
it looks fine on my machine. what are you viewing it on?

On 14/02/2008, Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm having problems with this page:
 http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/new2.html
 The CSS is here: http://www.tusculum.edu/bookstore/css/box2.css


 The problem is easy to spot. The image of the sweatshirt goes outside of
 the DIV. I've attempted to create a separate class for IMG, but that didn't
 work either.  How do I make the DIV expand to contain the image? I always
 seem to have problems with images. Can someone show me where I went wrong? I
 greatly appreciate your help.

 --
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 Webmaster
 Tusculum College
 phone: 423.636.7300 ext. 5132
 fax: 423.636.7492
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Re: [css-d] Simple Dreamweaver/CSS question

2008-02-14 Thread Chris Akins
It sounds like an incorrect path to me, even though I know you said it seems
your CSS file is located where it should be.  Can you post a URL?

Chris

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Daniel O'Brien 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm new to web design, and new to Dreamweaver CS3 (Mac) and CSS.

 I've learned to generate CSS files and do simple code mods, and attach
 the style sheet files to new html files.

 However, when I preview my newly-minted CSS-attached html files in
 Safari 3.0 (the latest, under Leopard) or in Firefox 2.0, none of the
 formatting is visible. The rendered page has the wrong background
 color, and it looks like a dumb html page with none of the CSS text
 formatting.

 I've verified that my CSS file is in the proper directory (same as
 html file).

 What could be the issue?

 Thanks very much,

 Dan O'Brien
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[css-d] i have an cross-browser issue with z-index of divs

2008-02-14 Thread vincent pollard
i'm working on a website and i can't post the URL unfortunately but the
situation is like this:

 DIV #header
DIV #rightHeadDIV #showHide/DIV/DIV
DIV #leftHead/DIV
/DIV

DIV #content 
DIV #left/DIV
DIV #middle/DIV
DIV #right/DIV
/DIV

#header {
}

#rightHead {
float:right;
padding: 0;
width: 200px;
position: relative;
z-index: 2
}

#leftHead {
margin: 0 200px 0 0;
position: relative;
z-index: 3
}

#content {
margin: 10px 0
}

#left {
float:left;
width: 150px
}

#middle {
float:left;
width: 500px
}

#right {
float:right;
width: 212px
}
a header div with two columns, a body div underneath with 3 columns. some
javascript that triggers a dropdown in #rightHead that should overlap
#right.\
it works fine in IE7, Firefox is okay, except that when the #showHide div
(dropdown) is displayed it pushes #right down and in IE7 when the #showHide
div (dropdown) is displayed it pushes down the whole #content div.

can anyone advise what the best way is to do this? or what the
cross-browsers iussues might be.
sorry, i know it's not a lot to go on.

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Re: [css-d] reply-to address

2008-02-14 Thread Alex Robinson
At 20:39 +0300 14/2/08, Ibrahim Y wrote:
Hi folks,

I hope this never been discussed before...

Guess what...

I noticed when I want to reply to
any email from the list that the default reply-to address is the email of
the sender not the list, So, every time I have to reply-all or add the list
address manually.
I think it's better to set the default reply-to address to the list not
the sender's email -IMHO- , if it's doable.


1. Questions or comments about how the list is run are never on 
topic. Instead you should address such concerns to the list owner

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2. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssDiscussListHeaders

End of discussion. See Point No. 1 if you disagree.



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[css-d] Simple Dreamweaver/CSS question

2008-02-14 Thread Daniel O'Brien

I'm new to web design, and new to Dreamweaver CS3 (Mac) and CSS.

I've learned to generate CSS files and do simple code mods, and attach  
the style sheet files to new html files.

However, when I preview my newly-minted CSS-attached html files in  
Safari 3.0 (the latest, under Leopard) or in Firefox 2.0, none of the  
formatting is visible. The rendered page has the wrong background  
color, and it looks like a dumb html page with none of the CSS text  
formatting.

I've verified that my CSS file is in the proper directory (same as  
html file).

What could be the issue?

Thanks very much,

Dan O'Brien
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Re: [css-d] reply-to address

2008-02-14 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
Hit reply to all, then delete the sender to send replies to list only.

If they're using Mailman, there is a setting for this, but the owner
probably wanted it this way. FWIW, I agree with you, replies should go to
the list address by default IMO also.
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Re: [css-d] Simple Dreamweaver/CSS question

2008-02-14 Thread Lisa Wilcox
Do you have that css file linked in your html page?
In the head of your code, you should have a link to your stylesheet in the
following manner:
link rel=stylesheet media=all type=text/css href=link to your
style.css here /
Hope this helps.


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I'm new to web design, and new to Dreamweaver CS3 (Mac) and CSS.

I've learned to generate CSS files and do simple code mods, and attach  
the style sheet files to new html files.

However, when I preview my newly-minted CSS-attached html files in  
Safari 3.0 (the latest, under Leopard) or in Firefox 2.0, none of the  
formatting is visible. The rendered page has the wrong background  
color, and it looks like a dumb html page with none of the CSS text  
formatting.

I've verified that my CSS file is in the proper directory (same as  
html file).

What could be the issue?

Thanks very much,

Dan O'Brien
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Re: [css-d] My first tableless site - Need Advice on css mistakes.

2008-02-14 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:28:00 +0300, Ibrahim Y wrote:
 hi all..
 I've a question about your opinions to improve my skills, are they based on 
 syntax
 checking / validating / or just if the website looks fine then it's good and 
 that's it?


Well, the question I would ask you is: if the website looks fine to whom?

If it looks fine to you, on your computer or iPhone or whatever you 
use, then that is all fine and dandy, provided that you are the only
person likely to visit the site.

On the other hand, if you expect others to view your site, then
validating will give you a better shot at others getting a usable
page.

There's more to it, of course. All browsers and all devices have
limitations and flaws, so testing in as wide a variety as you can
is a good idea. With browser manufacturers constantly making their
products converge on published recommendations, validating is a
kind of future-proofing your site. Even Microsoft is finally
on board with making IE more compliant, so we hope eventually
that syntax checking / validating will improve our chances of getting
code to work everywhere.

Bear in mind that validating is like spell-checking -- it picks up
errors but does not guarantee what you write makes sense.

(You do spell-check your pages, of course  ;)

Good luck with your efforts.

Cordially,
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Re: [css-d] Simple Dreamweaver/CSS question

2008-02-14 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:55:41 -0500, Daniel O'Brien wrote:

 I'm new to web design, and new to Dreamweaver CS3 (Mac) and CSS.


Welcome to the club. CS3 is a wise choice - Adobe seems to have done
a great job bringing this tool into the 21st century.


 However, when I preview my newly-minted CSS-attached html files in Safari 3.0 
 (the
 latest, under Leopard) or in Firefox 2.0, none of the formatting is visible. 
 The
 rendered page has the wrong background color, and it looks like a dumb html 
 page with
 none of the CSS text formatting.

 I've verified that my CSS file is in the proper directory (same as html file).

 What could be the issue?

Well, it could be a number of issues. It does depend on your
particular circumstances - are you viewing local files? or are they
on a server somewhere?

While I can't look at your pages to see the issue if they are on
your hard drive, if they are on a server somewhere we can take
a look. It may be something to do with your server settings, for
instance.

Hard to tell without seeing your site.

Cordially,
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Re: [css-d] My first tableless site - Need Advice on css mistakes.

2008-02-14 Thread Kathy Wheeler

On 15/02/2008, at 1:24 AM, Big Moxy wrote:
 IE runs on Mac. Have you check the MS site or Google'd for a download?

 Cynthia Villegas wrote:
 I have no ways of testing this on IE (mac user).


ie on the Mac is pretty awful and not a good guide as to how css will  
render under ie on a pc.

Cynthia you could get a copy of something like Virtual PC and run a  
copy (or multiple copies) of windows/ie under that on your Mac, or if  
you have one of the newer models with the intel chipset and Parallels  
you could run windows/ie natively under that.

Other than that buying a cheap pc or asking people with pc's to check  
for you are options.

Another that comes to mind but I'm not sure where it is ?? is a web  
site that will put up a screen shot of how your css/site renders  
under different OS and browser combinations. URL anyone?

Cheers,
KathyW.
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[css-d] Center multiple float lefts site check....

2008-02-14 Thread Matthew Stoneback
First things first – I wanted to thank Gunlaug Sørtun for the recent help on
fixing a problem I had been struggling with.  When I receive such quick and
helpful responses from people on this list I know why I joined.

 

Okay, now onto my dilemma.  How do you center a group of images / links that
are floated left in CSS?  The site I am trying this on is here:
http://www.eddysound.com/rrc/index_help.html  The CSS for the page is here:
http://www.eddysound.com/rrc/main_help.css

 

The part of the page I would like to center is all of the links located at
the very top of the page (in white).

 

Also, while you may be looking at this site to help me with this problem
could you please respond with any issues you see?  What could I code
differently?  How does it look in different browsers?  I know from my end
there are a few issues and I am already working on fixing them but I would
love to know if I need to start working on even more issues.

 

As always, thanks in advance for any help and guidance.  I have been working
in CSS for about a year and a half now and I still have a lot to learn.

 

Matt Stoneback

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Re: [css-d] Center multiple float lefts site check....

2008-02-14 Thread Jim Davis
Matt,

Try:
#topNav { width: 765px; height: 28px; margin: 0 auto; list-style: none; }

No need to float #topNav left if you are trying to center it. Just adjust
the width of #topNav to fit the width of the all the elements inside and set
the margin to 0 auto.

Jim

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 Okay, now onto my dilemma.  How do you center a group of images / links
 that
 are floated left in CSS?  The site I am trying this on is here:
 http://www.eddysound.com/rrc/index_help.html  The CSS for the page is
 here:
 http://www.eddysound.com/rrc/main_help.css

 The part of the page I would like to center is all of the links located at
 the very top of the page (in white).
  http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/

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