Re: [css-d] css drop down not working in IE

2009-10-03 Thread bill scheider
bill scheider wrote:
  I've just taken over as the website manager for a recently-launched
  site at http://portland.shambhala.org/ .  The main menu is a css
  dropdown and it's working as it should in FF, Opera, Chrome and
  Safari. In IE6 and 7 (and maybe 8; I haven't checked), the main menu
  is present but the menu doesn't drop down.

Before bothering too much with the CSS, try changing doctype declaration 
to trigger W3C standards mode in all browsers. The doctype you use now 
leaves that page in quirks mode across the board, meaning all IE 
versions go one way (limited to IE5.5 standard more or less), and all 
others go another way (non-IE quirks mode - not too far from W3C 
standards), on several points.

regards
   Georg

Georg,
Thanks for the quick response. Switching the doctype to xhtml 1.0
transitional did the trick with the menu. Thanks for the help.

Of course, it introduced 390 validation errors into that page, mostly
syntax. So the fix is a mixed blessing. Did I mention that I just took this
site over? And as a volunteer :-)
Bill

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Re: [css-d] css drop down not working in IE

2009-10-03 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

On Oct 3, 2009, at 3:14 PM, bill scheider wrote:

 bill scheider wrote:
 I've just taken over as the website manager for a recently-launched
 site at http://portland.shambhala.org/ .  The main menu is a css
 dropdown and it's working as it should in FF, Opera, Chrome and
 Safari. In IE6 and 7 (and maybe 8; I haven't checked), the main menu
 is present but the menu doesn't drop down.

 ...
 Thanks for the quick response. Switching the doctype to xhtml 1.0
 transitional did the trick with the menu. Thanks for the help.

 Of course, it introduced 390 validation errors into that page, mostly
 syntax. So the fix is a mixed blessing. Did I mention that I just  
 took this
 site over? And as a volunteer :-)

You don't need to switch to an XHTML doctype.
You could use HTML 401 transitional (like you originally had) but with  
a full doctype.

http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/


Philippe
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http://l-c-n.com/





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[css-d] grid without tables?

2009-10-03 Thread alanhome
I'm trying to be a good HTMLer and not use tables, but I can't figure out how 
to create this look :

http://www.alanhome.com/web.php

without them. Any idea how to solve this problem?
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Re: [css-d] css drop down not working in IE

2009-10-03 Thread bill scheider


 bill scheider wrote:
 I've just taken over as the website manager for a recently-launched
 site at http://portland.shambhala.org/ .  The main menu is a css
 dropdown and it's working as it should in FF, Opera, Chrome and
 Safari. In IE6 and 7 (and maybe 8; I haven't checked), the main menu
 is present but the menu doesn't drop down.

 Thanks for the quick response. Switching the doctype to xhtml 1.0
 transitional did the trick with the menu. Thanks for the help.

 Of course, it introduced 390 validation errors into that page, mostly
 syntax. So the fix is a mixed blessing. Did I mention that I just  
 took this
 site over? And as a volunteer :-)

You don't need to switch to an XHTML doctype.
You could use HTML 401 transitional (like you originally had) but with  
a full doctype.

http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/

Philippe


Thanks for the link, Phillippe. When I changes the doctype back to
transitional but used the full doctype as declared in the article, the
dropdown still didn't work in IE6 or 7. Switching to the full loose doctype
allowed dropdown to function as expected in IE7 but not 6. During this round
of testing, I noticed, too, that the dropdown wasn't working in IE6 with the
xhtml transitional doctype either, so it appears that IE6 at least won't
render that menu correctly in Standards mode (unless there's something else
here that's throwing the page into Quirks mode).

I like the idea of using an html 4.0 doctype, if possible, since then I
don't have to change the syntax of the pages for xhmtl.

I wonder if you might take another look or have another idea?

TIA
Bill  

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Re: [css-d] grid without tables?

2009-10-03 Thread Roberto Gorjão
Yeah, sure.

Use a a container div to set your with and global placement in page. 
Then, various solutions are possible:
1- use two divs to set two columns and then create internal rows with 
other divs, all with the same height. Then you'll only have to place the 
logo and the text and you can even choose to float them both to the left 
or one to the left and the other to the right.
2- use divs to simulate full rows, then place all the four elements of 
each row inside it, size them appropriately and float them all to the left.
3- use 4 divs to simulate 4 columns and float them all to the left, then 
place the elements inside each column and size them accordingly.

As you see, there are many solutions possible. You can also try a css 
framework like blueprint (http://www.blueprintcss.org/), which was 
devised to facilitate problems like this one.

HTH.

Roberto

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alanhome wrote:
 I'm trying to be a good HTMLer and not use tables, but I can't figure out how 
 to create this look :

 http://www.alanhome.com/web.php

 without them. Any idea how to solve this problem?


   
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Re: [css-d] grid without tables?

2009-10-03 Thread David Laakso
alanhome wrote:
 I'm trying to be a good HTMLer and not use tables, but I can't figure out how 
 to create this look :

 http://www.alanhome.com/web.php

 without them. Any idea how to solve this problem?
   



You make a big box. Nest smaller boxes in it. Nest even smaller boxes in 
them.The left column floats left. The right column floats right.

This [1] may give you and idea of one way to do it. The color borders 
key to the CSS so you can see what's what.
Checked in IE 6/7/8, Opera, Camino, Safari, Firefox, and Chrome.

[1] http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/bbb.html

Best,
~d

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Re: [css-d] spacing around HR element in IE7 ???

2009-10-03 Thread Rob Emenecker
 
 See...
 http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_30.html

Thank you Georg!


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