Re: [css-d] Fluid layouts and column background

2011-02-17 Thread Ib Jensen
2011/2/17 Gabriele Romanato gabriele.roman...@gmail.com:
 I think that this would be a good tutorial for css-d. Maybe we could think
 to insert it in the wiki section, if not already present:

 http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2011/02/css-fluid-layouts-and-column-background.html

 HTH, especially for beginners. :-)
 ps. there's no patent on my demos nor license. Everything is public domain.

Looks good.

I suppose, if you want a reverse layout, you just switch LEFT  and RIGHT float.



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Re: [css-d] Problem With Menu

2009-11-14 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/11/14 Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com:
 Hi;
 I've got a css menu here:
 http://angrynates.com/nrelectric.com/
 This works fine in FF but in IE, if you mouseover Services the font turns
 black and you can't mouseover the dropdown! It disappears before you can get
 there. What do? Please advise.

Start Correcting the 32 HTML errors, I've found validating the page.

And look through the Script, running the Menu. There is an error
around line 109.



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Re: [css-d] Site check please

2009-05-20 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/5/20 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
 Ib Jensen wrote:


 Dunno, but it may be IE/6 is not honoring the advanced selector for the
 missing icons-- but does it really matter? Of more importance (?),  may be
 that neither of the more important content images in the right column,
 reside in their respective containers in IE/6. .

Apart from that the Template was _not made_ for IE6, I would like it
to behave nice.
About the icons, They don't matter, but if they _could_ be shown 


 And, if push came shove, I'd consider setting a fixed width of 990px on the
 page outermost wrapper for IE/6.0 (only). This will prevent the float drop
 in narrow windows, in IE/6.  And, it will resolve that IE/6 does not support
 min/max width.

That should then be in a CC in the header or in a ie.css ?


 I do not know, as well, why you need be particularly concerned with the
 zoom toy in IE. Unless you are willing to start from scratch with a
 different layout concept, it may be beneficial to accept IE's zoom toy for
 what it is: *page zoom. *

I was just testing how it behaved in a large size, but should
problably instead have used browsershot.com? to test it in.



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Re: [css-d] Site check please

2009-05-20 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/5/20 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 2009/5/20 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:

 Ib Jensen wrote:

 This star html hack will set the fixed width for IE/6. Leave it in the CSS
 file. Or, if you prefer, put it in an IE/6 conditional comment. It will
 work either way.
 * html div#side {width:990px;} /* for IE/6 */

 The division ( .manchet ) in the right column that has the float right
 images needs to be cleared for IE/6. Add this to the style sheet to do that
 (this will not adversely effect other browsers, so no need to put it in a
 CC):

 .manchet:after
   {
   content: '.';
   display: block;
   height: 0;
   clear: both;
   visibility: hidden;
   }
 .manchet {
   display: inline-block;
   }

Thank you, I will use it.


 IE/6 does not support this css selector:
 a[href^=mailto:;]  {background-image:url(email000.png);}
 IE/8, and IE/7, do support it and show your icons.
 If it is necessary to have those two icons in IE/6 you'll need to feed them
 to it with a simple selector. Seems more trouble than it is worth (to me)
 for a browsers that is on death row. But it is your call...

No need for them in IE6.
I was just hoping :(


 A static screen capture from browsershot will not show how the fonts scale.
 IETester only enables page zoom, not font-scaling. To test the IEs for
 font-scaling on a native box or the standalone versions
 http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone.
 In IE/6 it is: viewtext sizelargest. In IE 7/8 it is: pagetext
 sizelargest

Thanks for this information


I know that anything you put on a webpage is sometimes shown
differently in any browser. And even more differently if the user are
using a homemade configuration of the browser

To Val Dobson

Thanks for the correction.



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[css-d] Site check please

2009-05-19 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi

Link:  http://ikjensen.dk

Tested locally in FF 3.0.10 - IE 6/78 (IETester 0.3.3)


Locally known issues:

IE6 dont show my link-icons

IE7 - 8 behave rather ok. As FF3.


At 190% Page- or Text-zoom?:

IE6: Arghhh
The template _are_ not made for IE6!

IE7:
Page got a horizontal scroll-bar, and continues out of the viewport.

IE8:
Page continues out of the viewport, but no horizontal scroll-bar.

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[css-d] Site check please

2009-05-18 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi

Link:  http://ikjensen.dk

Tested locally in FF 3.0.10 - IE 6/78 (IETester 0.3.3)


Locally known issues:

IE6 dont show my link-icons

IE7 - 8 behave rather ok. As FF3.


At 190% Page- or Text-zoom:
IE6: Ahhh
The template not made for IE6!

IE7:
Page got a horizontal scroll-bar, and continues out of the viewport.

IE8:
Page continues out of the viewport, but no horizontal scroll-bar.



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Re: [css-d] IE 8

2009-05-11 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/5/11 david gn...@hawaii.rr.com:
 Divya Manian wrote:

 I have also experienced MultipleIEs have issues with javascript (sometimes
 CSS). Plus it doesn't work as expected when u install IE 8. I am still
 looking for a good solution to test IE 6/7/8 in one machine, no luck so far.

 Linux with VirtualBox and 3 different Windows VM's works.

A new toy has been discovered for Win-machines:

IETester

http://www.my-debugbar.com/ietester/index_all.php

Shows your page in IE 5.5, 6, 7, 8.
IE8 only showing, if IE7 is installed.

I don't know if it's having any issues with javascript ?




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Re: [css-d] page review

2009-04-19 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/4/19 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
 Comments and suggestions appreciated.

 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/op8/index.html


Well, I got an 404

Local time : 9.05
Denmark



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Re: [css-d] tabled thumbnail gallery to css?

2009-03-25 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/25 bill scheider b...@first-encounter-design.com:
 Ib,
 That looks pretty awesome. Don't know if it'll be any use for this project
 (I'll look more deeply later) but I've definitely bookmarked it for the
 future. Great resource.
 Thanks
 Bill


My own site is build on YAML. With some external borrowing from other
sites, mainly the menus.

Have a look, but just look at the layout / design, because you
problably don't understand or can read the content.

Link : http://ikjensen.dk


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Re: [css-d] tabled thumbnail gallery to css?

2009-03-24 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/23 bill scheider b...@first-encounter-design.com:
 Hi all

 I'd like to re-code that page in css rather than a table. For one thing it'd
 be lots easier to retain the alphabetical order when adding or removing a
 new artist. The current code is certainly a mess and could certainly benefit
 from a cleansing:-)

I don't know if this can be of any help.
But have a look at YAML (http://yaml.de) where you can divide the page
in four columns (max.). And if I read it correct the columns can be
made equal height.


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Re: [css-d] Size calculations

2009-03-16 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/16 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Think I got the above about right. Hard to compress a thousand choices
 into a mail.


Thank you very much for the explanation.

I must invite my self for a long weekend, for a little chit-chat about
developing sites. ;-)



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[css-d] WAS : Size calculations

2009-03-16 Thread Ib Jensen
Following a suggestion to a layout I had this result in :

Firefox 3.0 :
http://ikjensen.dk/test/capture_ff.jpg

IE 6.02
http/ikjensen.dk/test/capture_ie.jpg

The interval between the pictures are about 2 min.
Changing from FF to IE

The HTML and css :
http/ikjensen.dk/test/


Where is IE hiding the text ??





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Re: [css-d] WAS : Size calculations

2009-03-16 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/16 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 http:/ikjensen.dk/test/

 Where is IE hiding the text ??
 Stacked behind the page-background.

 Add...
 #menu-frame {position: relative;}
 ...to bring it up front.

Thanks.

And changing em to % is a good idea ??



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[css-d] Size calculations

2009-03-15 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi.

I'm looking for some kind of formular to calculate sizes.

This is a hypotetical question:

I want a 2 column design with header and footer, a left nav- and
info-column, and a right content-column. Centered.


Lets say the size are:

Header and footer :  90%

These two columns together: 80%
Left column: 20-25%
Content column : 80-75%


How do I change these measurements to: em




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Re: [css-d] Size calculations

2009-03-15 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/15 Bill Brown macnim...@gmail.com:
 Bill Brown wrote:

/* FLOAT BEHAVIOR SWITCH FOR IE */
#page-panel { display: inline-block; }

#page-panel { display: block; }

 I lied: remove the position:relative from that last block. That's an
 artifact from another template. Sorry.


It should be as corrected above your lie ;-)


I'll try it out, and se how it looks, and I, maybe be back !


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Re: [css-d] Size calculations

2009-03-15 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/15 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 How do I change these measurements to: em

 What are those hypothetical '%' you want to convert to hypothetical
 'em', relative to?
 That is: what is your hypothetical 100% starting-width?
 You can't convert anything to 'em' without having an absolute starting
 point.


The template should fill a total of 90% of the viewport / screen.

I want the header and footer in the template to fill 90% of the
viewport / screen.

The left- and content-column in the template should only fill 80% of
the viewport / screen.

I don't know if this clears something.



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Re: [css-d] Size calculations

2009-03-15 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/15 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 My viewport / screen is 3840pixel wide on one machine, but it is
 1280pixel wide on another machine and 1440pixel wide on yet another.

Kind a the same problem here:

I'm developing on a 19 widescreen, resolution unknown for the moment.

I'm writing this, looking for tips and tricks and seing my own and
other sites on a 22 widescreen.

 You have to decide if the 100% starting-width is 800, 1024, 1280,
 1600pixel or something else, since you can't convert percentages into
 'em' directly for anything but font-size and line-height.

Now you are forcing me do something quit new to me, taking
descissions. Problably because I want to much at the same time.
But I assume that the mostly used monitor-size is either a 17 or 19
screen, then it should be something around 800 or 1024px.

 If your 100% starting-width is 800pixel, then 800/16='em' will hit
 right as long as we're dealing with the default font-size for 96dpi.
 If browsers correct correctly for resolution, then it'll still be
 correct (in a manner of speaking) for other resolutions.

 Problem is: browsers are not very good at the various resolution game
 yet, so you may get more than one actual width as result on higher
 resolutions - depending on browser.

 Hope that came through a bit clearer.

I think.

That means roughly, that a developer should have at least three
screens with different resolutions and X number of browsers installed,
on different systems, to in fact have a chance to guess which size of
units to use.


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Re: [css-d] Size calculations

2009-03-15 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/15 Bill Brown macnim...@gmail.com:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 If you don't care about IE, or you're not using full-height column
 backgrounds, you can get away with this:

I do care about IE ( a lot of faul words ), to a certain limit  IE6 and up.
And wish to use full-height columns without graphics, just colors.


      #page-frame,#core-panel
        {width:90%;margin:0 auto}

Now I've had to calculate the other way round. From % to em. ;-)

      /* Faking display:table-cell for IE as best we can */
      #menu,#main
        {display:inline-block!ie}
      #menu,#main
        {display:inline!ie}

Is this a way of making a kind of table-layout ??


 Hope it helps.
 --Bill

At least I have something to play with.

Just got finished with your first suggestion.
It showed me that % and em, are two very diiferent units to play with.
I've had to recalculate the meassures, to something smaller. So it
could fit on _my_ screen, but the original meassures will problably
show up differently on another screen.



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Re: [css-d] Size calculations

2009-03-15 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/15 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:


 First: get the terms, and sizes, right.

 Resolution is somewhere between 72 and 300dpi and most viewports/screens
 are between 640 and 3600px wide. Resolution vs pixel-width affect actual
 screen size, so a 2400px wide screen with 220dpi resolution (not many of
 those around, but they're coming) will be physically quite small in
 size. So, forget about 15, 17, 19 and so on for screens. A screen is
 so and so many screen-pixels wide and tall, regardless of its actual size.

Uuuups.

Something that I have completely misunderstood.
Thats problably why I sometimes have problems getting the right size
of the layout i working with locally.


'em' is locked to font-size, so 'em' is in most cases only useful for
setting limits - min-width and/or max-width, and those limits should be
quite generous.
'px' is also locked, so they're also most useful for setting generous
limits.

By this, you mean that, how should I write it:

A fluid / Elacstic layout:

The skeleton of a layout in %
Font-size in % or em

A fixed layout:

The skeleton of a layout in em or px
Font-size in em or px


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[css-d] Was : Size calculations

2009-03-15 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi

A little layout issue.


Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/

Pictures:
Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/capture_ff.jpg

Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/capture_ie.jpg


I tryed a layout suggestion mentioned in the thread: Size calculations.

But had this weird layout issue on my screen, as seen on the pictures.

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Re: [css-d] Shorten width

2009-03-10 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/10 trevor bayliss bayliss_tre...@yahoo.com:

 Hi all the green background on the right hand head is too wide as shown in 
 this image:
 www.copywritecolombia.com/ie.gif

 The page is:
 http://www.copywritecolombia.com/test.php
 How can I make the green header on the right box less wide?
 Also how can I make the height of the left box the same as the right? Thank 
 you


Validation of the page says 6 errors and 2 warnings.


At the end of this line:

span class=commonTexttext

You have a /div with no start div


Maybe you'll find some more _yourself_ by validating the page.


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Re: [css-d] IE Floating problem

2009-03-07 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/7 Alan Gresley a...@css-class.com:
 Alan Gresley wrote:

 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Link: http://ikjensen.dk/test/  (repaired)


 I forgot to mention about the float drop in IE6 due to it's quirky handling
 of percentages. The fix is changing the width.

 .subcolumns {
  width: 99%; /* Change to keep IE6 happy */
  overflow:hidden;
  }


 Link: http://ikjensen.dk/test/

Thanks to all.

As mentioned earlier adding : height: 1% to #center solved the problem.
When I added it directly to default.css. Instead of making a CC.

Adding : margin-top: 1em to #content, might solve the problem with the sidebar.


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Re: [css-d] IE Floating problem

2009-03-07 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/7 Ib Jensen ibkjen...@gmail.com:
 2009/3/7 Alan Gresley a...@css-class.com:
 Alan Gresley wrote:

 Ib Jensen wrote:


 .subcolumns {  width: 99%; /* Change to keep IE6 happy */   overflow:hidden; 
   }

This wasn't nescessary to adjust, ( I think ). But always nice to know.


Link: http://ikjensen.dk/test/

 Thanks to all.

 As mentioned earlier adding : height: 1% to #center solved the problem.
 When I added it directly to default.css. Instead of making a CC.

 Adding : margin-top: 1em to #content, might solve the problem with the 
 sidebar.

Adding this last solution solved the problem, Almost.

Maybe fidling with the margin-top, will solve the differences in
height, between sidebar and content. In IE6 ?


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[css-d] IE Floating problem

2009-03-06 Thread Ib Jensen
Link: http://ikjensen/test/

Having a minor / major problem with this layout and IE6.

The content area starts below the Sidebar.

Which bug have I found here ?

In FF3.0 it shows perfect.


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Re: [css-d] Problem with extra white space appearing

2009-03-03 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/3/3 Joe Polk josephp...@gmail.com:
 Thanks in advance for your consideration and help regarding this issue. I
 helped my client purchase and implement a web site template for their new
 business. Unfortunately, there is a problem with part of the CSS which
 pushes out the content area of the site past the width that it is supposed
 to go.

 The web site is under development at http://www159.pair.com/ngllc/


Try validating the page.

My Tidy says:

Result: 0 errorsl / 14 advarsler = Warnings

line 17 column 56 - Advarsel: img element not empty or not closed
line 44 column 1 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 44 column 5 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 46 column 1 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 46 column 5 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 49 column 34 - Advarsel: a unexpected or duplicate quote mark
line 64 column 17 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 76 column 18 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 78 column 17 - Advarsel: discarding unexpected /ul
line 90 column 17 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 107 column 59 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 107 column 118 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 108 column 67 - Advarsel: br element not empty or not closed
line 48 column 15 - Advarsel: trimming empty p
Info: Doctype given is -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
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[css-d] What's IE6 doing

2009-02-25 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi.

Link: http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/index_f.html


Why are IE6 behaving like this, forming a staircase (at least locally)
out of this.

Mising some clearing or ..


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Re: [css-d] What's IE6 doing

2009-02-25 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/26 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 BTW. Are there any links to descriptions of the bugs found in IE, with
 some sort of explanation and solutions to them. I know (Big) John has
 some, but are there others ?

 Some more...
 http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html
 http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html

Thanks to both for the information.

There is problably more out there in cyperspace, just have to find them.



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[css-d] Script and css problem 2

2009-02-20 Thread Ib Jensen
I think I've solved the Font-sizing problem.

But still having some problem with some Negative margins and maybe
some other things that I've not yet  have discovered

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Re: [css-d] Script and css problem 2

2009-02-20 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/20 Ib Jensen ibkjen...@gmail.com:
 I think I've solved the Font-sizing problem.

 But still having some problem with some Negative margins and maybe
 some other things that I've not yet  have discovered

Forgot the link:

http://ikjensen.dk




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Re: [css-d] Script and css problem 2

2009-02-20 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/20 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
 Ib Jensen wrote:


 Are  you and me writing about the same thing:

 Looks much better. I was on the wrong page. Only your signature link was on
 your post to css-d.

Then you problably missed the second post, where the link was.

I won't comment on what you wrote about some time ago about your vision ;-)



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Re: [css-d] Script and css problem 2

2009-02-20 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/20 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 What browsers seem to be giving you difficulty with margins?

And a Display markup in some CC, problably in the .js-file.

Webdeveloper in FF 2.x and 3.x


 aside; might be best to keep this thread on css-d, rather than list
 jumping...

OK, by me

It started with a  Script-problem whitch I belived wasn't a subject
here, thats why i wrote in the other list.



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Re: [css-d] Font-color issue

2009-02-15 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/15, Jørgen Farum Jensen webmas...@webdesign101.dk:
 Ib Jensen skrev:

 I do, too, and have written a couple of well thought of books
 about it in your native language, ref. my signature.
 Includes lots of well documented templates and explanations
 of the whys and wherefores. A whole chapter on best practice
 typography as regards web pages.

I have one of your books, but not the one about css.

I should problably look for it in some bookstore, together with the 2.
edition of your book about (x)HTML.


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Re: [css-d] Font-color issue

2009-02-13 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/13, Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 As for most (if not all) CSS based templates: markup and CSS are
 integrated, so from scratch will probably ruin the template and all
 you like about it.

I have been doing that before, because I've normally remove any
graphic used in an template to see whats it looks like, without
graphic in html and css, and changing the css part to suit my whishes.
With or without any luck.


 Suggestion: Find out what you like about the template and keep all
 styles for that. Remove/replace the styles that don't work so well for
 you now.
 This means going through the template CSS line for line, while keeping a
 copy of the original CSS as backup in case you lose track of changes.

Thats what I meant to do, going back to the original stylesheet(s)
thats more or less followed whith the template.

It's from a book : Modernes Webdesign, by Manuela Hoffmann,
http://pixelgraphix.de

She should know something about it .


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Re: [css-d] Font-color issue

2009-02-13 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/13, David Hucklesby davidh...@writeme.com:
 On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:41:38 +0100, Els wrote:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 It's not the colour, it's the size. Up the size a bit, and the blur will
 disappear. If you look at the body text, that's also smaller in IE than in
 FF.

 ~

 To add to Els's suggestion, I find that these percentages work best
 cross-browser: 69%, 75%, 82%, 94% ... with a base font-size of 100%.

 You may like to reconsider your base font-size of 75%, and your mix
 of EM and pixel font-sizes -

  http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03_04.html

 BTW - the horizontal menu / sitemap does not show up in IE 8 rc 1 -
 the developer tools suggests it is hiding under the H1 on the left,
 and the first H2 on the right. The tool also says that the document is
 in quirks mode!??? A quirk of the tool, perhaps?


To the last : The sitemap is shown perfect by IE6.02 locally and I
think in IE7.x too.
So, I can't check it in IE8.x, so it must be 

The Font-size are a suggestion from a book written by a Designer ...
The address is in my post to Gunlaug.

But anyway, I'm totally rewriting the page, so there will problably be
some other questions to answer.

Thanks to all for your solutions, I'll problably get back to them some
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[css-d] Font-color issue

2009-02-12 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi

Link: http://ikjensen.dk/test/

In the bottom right corner I've have a Note-box.

In IE6.x I can only see the headline ok, the rest of the text is blurred.

The headline and text looks ok in FF 2.x, OP 9.5 and Safari 3.x.

I've tried to change colors, without any result.


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Re: [css-d] Font-color issue

2009-02-12 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/12, Els el...@tiscali.nl:
 Els wrote:

 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Link: http://ikjensen.dk/test/

 It's not the colour, it's the size. Up the size a bit, and the blur
 will disappear. If you look at the body text, that's also smaller in
 IE than in FF.

 Just noticed you have this in your layout.css stylesheet:
 html  body{font-size:12px;}

 IE6 doesn't pick that up, and it makes all the difference. If you take
 that line out, FF also makes the text smaller and blurs that bit under
 'Note'.
 I'd take that line out, and up the main text from 80% to 100% in your
 basis.css stylesheet.

Shouldn't bee 100.01% or 100.1%, as many suggests in favor of rounding errors ?


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Re: [css-d] Font-color issue

2009-02-12 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/13, Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Guess it was such cases Microsoft had in mind when they added ignore
 font size in web pages as an option in IE - a long time ago, while
 other browsers introduced minimum font size to counteract mouse-type.
 All you achieve by using such small text is that many visitors either
 can't read your words of wisdom, or have to override your font size in
 order to read it.


 FYI: I apply minimum font size = 14px to all web pages, and if the
 choice of font-family causes problems I change that to 16px - on 96dpi
 screens.
 Since you also have an em-sized layout I also find it necessary to
 apply fit to width to your page to make it stay within the browser
 window, so I don't have to deal with long text lines and horizontal
 scrollbars. The information on your pages is too interesting to be left
 unreadable, and Danish isn't a problem at my end ;-)


Something tells me that, instead of trying to modyfie some templates,
I'll should try to build at least the css-part up from scratch, maybe
keeping some of it, using this template from Manuela Hoffmann, which I
kind of like.



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[css-d] One Bug catched

2009-02-10 Thread Ib Jensen
or more

Hi

Link: http://ikjensen.dk/test/

I've catched some kind of bug here.

The most important is in the Content-area, where IE 6.x are placing
the text at about the top of the second picture, (Some float-bug ?)
and FF2.x are placing the text at the top of the first picture.

The second is in the header.
Where there are some differences between FF2.x and IE6.x in measuring
the height of the Header. (Problably some float-bug too ?)


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Re: [css-d] One Bug catched

2009-02-10 Thread Ib Jensen
The Validator don't like my menu very much.

But i'll have a look at it and see what to be done.

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Re: [css-d] One Bug catched

2009-02-10 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/10, Ian Young i...@iyesolutions.co.uk:
 -Original Message-
 From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-
 boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Ib Jensen
 Sent: 10 February 2009 22:46
 To: David Laakso
 Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: Re: [css-d] One Bug catched


 Looks pretty straight forward. On line 232 you have missed an end tag for
 the list. Although the validator has come up with 20 errors, they are all
 connected with that one error.
 Ironically it is the link to gunlag!

 lia href=http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/toc_7a.html;gunlaug/a

 Cheers
 Ian

I think Gunlaug has something to say / write about that.


I've missed two /li, and that gave 20 errors.
They are fixed now and the page validates.



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[css-d] css question

2009-02-10 Thread Ib Jensen
The below css is ripped from another thread

#sidebar {position: relative;}

#sidebar {position: relative}


Are both of these writings correct, or are there any differencies in
which version of ccs you are using in connection to (x)HTML.



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Re: [css-d] One Bug catched

2009-02-10 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/2/11, Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Ironically it is the link to gunlag!
 I think Gunlaug has something to say / write about that.
 Not a CSS problem - and it's fixed now ;-)

Phwww, no slapping :-]


 The most important is in the Content-area, where IE 6.x are placing
 the text at about the top of the second picture, (Some float-bug ?)
 One of IE's old float/clear bugs.

guessed right, this time ;-]


 The addition of...
 .elastisches-bild { clear: left;}
 ...will make IE6, and also IE7 since it has the same bug, behave as you
 intended.

Thanks

Is it the same bug in the Header or another ?


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Re: [css-d] problem with nav bar

2009-01-26 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/26 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
 Kim Walta wrote:

 Hi! This is my first time submitting a questions here.
 http://libraries.slu.edu/liaisons/kwalta/referencelib/reflib.html

 Here is my css

 http://libraries.slu.edu/liaisons/kwalta/referencelib/reflib.css


Just a note from a Non-expert:

Looking at your page with HTML Validator, a FF plug-in, I've got about
30 warnings.
I don't know how serius this warnings are 
These warnings starts about line 170

But a hr inline style, not in the .css ?



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Re: [css-d] Footer Issues

2009-01-23 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/23  sta...@aol.com:
 Hi -

 I'm trying to do a very simple CSS site, but when checking my site in IE 7,
 my navigation is missing. It's showing in all other browsers except for IE.



When I look at your page in FF and test it with a plug-in called Tidy.

Who is showing 8 warnings:

Line 4 - 8 meta element not closed, maybe not important, but 

Line 11 link not closed

Line 16 empty span , emty h2

Maybe it's line 16, causing the your trouble.

Maybe the experts have another view ;)



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Re: [css-d] Background Image

2009-01-23 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/23 Matthew Stoneback matthewstoneb...@gmail.com:
 Have a quick question that I am sure someone can help with in short
 order

 I am starting to go to production on a new site and I cannot seem to get a
 background image to function properly on the id content.  To my surprise
 the page views correctly in IE but not in Firefox!  What am I missing?  I am
 guessing it is something simple I am overlooking from staring at the code
 too long.


Why do you have an emty divmain in your divcontent. If it's not
holding your picture ?

And a emty h3 in your sidebar, hiding something  or  ?



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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/22 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/blank.html

 The auto-expansion bug in IE6 and older.

 Well, then I hope that I somehow can get FF to look like IE in this
 situation. Because IE is showing the Footer as I want it to look.

 The difference is that good browsers will auto-expand the footer
 because they're told to do so, and not because they're buggy.


Considering that FF, belongs to the better part of the browsers,
I've would have expected that FF had shown it more correctly than IE
in this case.

But, I'm still learning something new about browser behaviors every day.

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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-22 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/22 Bobby Jack and Gunlaug:

 --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Ib Jensen ibkjen...@gmail.com wrote:

It does!
You have 'height : 100px;' on your footer, and all browsers but IE6 and
older honor that height - which is too short for the footer's content.
The result is correct and looks interesting, but wasn't quite what you
wanted, it seems

Your correct, I'm wrong :[

I've set a heigth that was to low for the content in the footer, thats
clear for me now, after thinking about what the pictures shows.


If you wrote a web page containing nothing but hello, world and IE displayed 
a 3-dimensional view of the Sistine Chapel,
that wouldn't be correct behaviour, even if it were beautiful and exactly what 
you wanted! :)

This could be a very interesting thing to a competition about writing
something, and get it to look like something else.


But off course your right, behaviour and what I want is two different
things. But sometimes I whish they were the same.


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[css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-21 Thread Ib Jensen
Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/blank.html

The page in FF
http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ff.jpg

The page in IE
http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ie.jpg

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Re: [css-d] Footer-problem

2009-01-21 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/21 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Link : http://ikjensen.dk/test/common/blank.html

 The page in FF http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ff.jpg

 The page in IE http://ikjensen.dk/test/wsimage/ie.jpg

 Whats going on here ???

 The auto-expansion bug in IE6 and older. IE6 doesn't respect declared
 dimensions, and treats all elements as if they were expandable table-cells.


Well, then I hope that I somehow can get FF to look like IE in this
situation. Because IE is showing the Footer as I want it to look.

Or, should I think in a different direction, and get it to look like
FF, with some height-declarations ?



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Re: [css-d] two column data

2009-01-14 Thread Ib Jensen
14. jan. 2009 18.05 skrev James E. Darfler jim_darf...@wideopenwest.com:

 The web page is at:
 http://www.wayneactorscommunitytheatre.org/archive/joseph/bios/actors_bios.h
 tml

 The css pages are at:
 http://www.wayneactorscommunitytheatre/css


I'm absolutely no expert in this matter, but have you tried to give
your div's some css, something like float:left and float:right?

And I've never seen divs placed in a table before, but if's validating
I've learnt something new.



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Re: [css-d] Think I worked out the bugs

2009-01-14 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/14 John Shepard j...@unitedmontessori.com:
 Thanks much to Kate, Gunlaug and Bill for their help on
 http://earthpedal.com.  A work in progress.


I don't know if it's just me.
But could you consider changing the :hoover color to something different.
I'm just seing a White line, in FF3, when I'm looking / pointing at it.

And a larger font-size in the Footer, please.


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Re: [css-d] Layout-problem

2009-01-09 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/9 Holly Bergevin ho...@communitymx.com:
 From: Ib Jensen ibkjen...@gmail.com

Link : url: http://ikjensen.dk/test/

Second problem.
The menu in the left sidebar works ok on the Index-page, but not on a
second page.

Menu : Genealogy - Kings of Denmark

 Can you explain what you mean when you say it doesn't work? I see hover 
 effects, and if you click on a menu item, the page responds (by taking you to 
 a non-existent page).

I just checked the page.

From the Index-page to the Page : Kings of Denmark  Top-nav :
Genealogy - Kings of Denmark, the only working link on the
index-page, besides the Link menu-entry.

On the Kings of Denmark-page, I've got a menu on the right side, The
purble one, i've have some bullets on the left side, which don't
show up on the left menu. At least in my FF3.
The only working link on this page is : Home


 If this is what you mean by not working, then the problem is in your HTML 
 with the paths for the links. On the index page, they go back up a level (out 
 of the test folder), but on the second page, they don't make it out of the 
 test folder, so the browser shows a page not found.


I can't explain it better, as when I'm looking at it, it shows some
problem with the menu.

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[css-d] Layout-problem

2009-01-08 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi, it's me again  ;-)

Link : url: http://ikjensen.dk/test/

Having a major problem with this layout.

Strangely, In IE 6, it shows almost as I wanted it to look like.
In FF2, it doesn't.

Second problem.
The menu in the left sidebar works ok on the Index-page, but not on a
second page.

Menu : Genealogy - Kings of Denmark
Same Structure and css.

All tested locally.


PS! Don't care about the colors.


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Re: [css-d] Layout-problem

2009-01-08 Thread Ib Jensen
2009/1/8 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Name of the game: Code to Opera -- FF, Safari, and Camino will follow
 suit. Fix IE.

 #container {padding-top: 1px;}-- fix 4 collapsing margins
 .head h1{font-size:250%; margin: 40px 0 10px 0;padding: 0;
 color:#fff;font-weight:normal;}
 .head h2{font-size:180%; margin:0;color:#fff;font-weight:normal;}
 .head {min-height: 150px;}
 * html .head {height: 150px;}-- 4 IE/6
 div.note {background:fuchsia/*4 position only*/; overflow: hidden;}

I'll try this



 Could not find menu second page.


Try in the Top-menu-bar = first menu-point = Genealogy, Menu-point =
Kings of Denmark.

On this page : The menu in the right side.



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Re: [css-d] Menu-issue

2008-12-29 Thread Ib Jensen
2008/12/28 Al Sparber aspar...@roadrunner.com:
 From: Ib Jensen ibkjen...@gmail.com
 2008/12/28 David ker...@abbottdavid.com:

 You would be better off with a nice single-level CSS menu across the top
 with sidebar context menus.

You mean, just a single-level drop-down menu. And sub-menus in the sidebar.
As the one in : ikjensen.dk

The menu you have is extremely unusable - even
 in the browsers in which it works. For that type of menu you really should
 be using a scripted one.

Any suggestions in this direction.



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Re: [css-d] Menu-issue

2008-12-29 Thread Ib Jensen
2008/12/29

 Any suggestions in this direction.

 UDM:
 http://www.udm4.com/

 PMM2:
 http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm2/

 * Yahoo! User Interface menu: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/menu/


Thanks to both of you for these links.

The only problem are, I don't have Dreamweaver or anything like. So it
must bee something like the Yahoo-thing, maybe.



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[css-d] Menu-issue

2008-12-28 Thread Ib Jensen
Link : ikjensen.dk/test/

Wanted:

Top-nav :
Moving the second sublevel to about 5px below Top-nav. So there will
be a small white border at the top.
There are only Sublevels in the First menuentry. Last four.

Do I have to write a class or something to get the position or .

PS!
Walidating the template says a lot of errors. Is't because of the
Menu-structure or just bad coding.

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Re: [css-d] Menu-issue

2008-12-28 Thread Ib Jensen
2008/12/28 Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis bhawkesle...@googlemail.com:
 On 28/12/08 16:58, Ib Jensen wrote:

 You can use descendant selectors to target lists that are descendants of
 other lists:
 http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/selectors_descendant.htm
 That's likely all you need here.

 Verbose validator output: http://tinyurl.com/97gl83

 Bad coding, mostly reflecting a failure to always open and close tags are
 required in XHTML:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.3
 (Note also: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_2 if you try to fix this.)
 I'd recommend removing errors from your HTML layer before making any further
 CSS changes.


If I can't get this working, I'll find another menu-solution.

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Re: [css-d] Menu-issue

2008-12-28 Thread Ib Jensen
2008/12/28 Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis bhawkesle...@googlemail.com:
 On 28/12/08 16:58, Ib Jensen wrote:


 I'd recommend removing errors from your HTML layer before making any further
 CSS changes.

Done !
And (x)HTML and CSS are validating perfectly now.

Now I'm just going to find out how to adjust the menu.


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Re: [css-d] Menu-issue

2008-12-28 Thread Ib Jensen
2008/12/28 David ker...@abbottdavid.com:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 I got it to validate if it helps any :)
 http://dwabbott.com/iktest.html
 -david

Me too.
I don't know if you read my answer to Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis.

Now, only the Menu-issue is left back. ;-{



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[css-d] Menu-problem in IE6

2008-12-22 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi

Link: ikjensen.dk/test/


I'm working on a new design.

And naturally having an IE6 problem.
The css in the menu are the same, except the Fly-outs are floated
Right and Left.
The problem is the Left side, where IE is placing a extra line, below
the Sub-menu.

Any hints ??


PS!
Any hints on : Downsizing a picture nicely. The two pictures in the
Content-area, in fact.


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[css-d] Menu-problem IE6

2008-12-22 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi

Link: ikjensen.dk/test/


I'm working on a new design.

And naturally having an IE6 problem.
The css in the menu are the same, except the Fly-outs are floated
Right and Left.
The problem is the Left side, where IE is placing a extra line, below
the Sub-menu.

In Firefox 2.x, it works.

Any hints ??


PS!
Any hints on : Downsizing a picture nicely. The two pictures in the
Content-area, in fact.

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Re: [css-d] Menu-problem IE6

2008-12-22 Thread Ib Jensen
2008/12/23 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 Any hints ??

 Same 'hasLayout' trigger on anchors as before, but with the necessary
 selector-addition to target the left menu also...

 #menu ul li a, #menu_l ul li a  {height: 1%;}


 PS! Any hints on : Downsizing a picture nicely. The two pictures in
 the Content-area, in fact.

 #center img {max-width: 90%; height: auto; width: auto;}

 ...will let those images stay at intrinsic size when there's enough
 space, and scale down when necessary.
 Doesn't work in IE6 and older - need separate styles, but all somewhat
 new browsers will handle such scaling reasonably well.


Thanks for your explaning answer.

I need to _get / buy_ some very explaning books on CSS!


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Re: [css-d] Menu-problem IE6

2008-12-22 Thread Ib Jensen
2008/12/23 Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net:
 Ib Jensen wrote:

 ...and a read-up on CSS standards...

 http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/

 That should lead to improved control over web design and browsers in no
 time - once you have practiced a bit.

I think I'm practicing all the time, but I'm hopefully learning
something, sometime ;-)


 ...but once you're able to sort software-bugs from the more ordinary
 designer-bugs it won't be too hard :-)

That'll problably take some time :-(

Anyway, Thanks for the hints



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[css-d] Vertical menu, Thanks

2008-05-16 Thread Ib Jensen
Thanks to Alan and Tedd for the help

I solved the problem, by looking at the source.

I've had the source-code printed to a PDF-file, and then copy - pasted the
source-code to a real file.
But some non-wanted text, had mixed in, and when I deleted this it solved my
problem.

So, be careful when you make a copy - paste !!!

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[css-d] Vertical menu

2008-05-15 Thread Ib Jensen
Hi

I'm sorry for my english writing.


I'm developing a site on a local computer.
And found the menu i wanted here:

sperling.com/examples/menuv/

But i can't get it to work in IE6 properly. The first menupoint is working
ok, but the submenus are gone to cyperspace.
In Opera 9 and Firefox 2, it works perfect. Not tested with Safari and other
browsers yet.
Having any solutions 

second ? :
At the moment the menu is popping out from left to right.
Is it possibly to make it pop out from right to left ?

third ? :
Is it possibly to make the menu stay in the same column.
So the submenus is covering the main menu.

Hope you understand my questions.

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