Re: [css-d] Is it kosher...

2005-05-09 Thread Bryce Fields
On 5/9/05, Christian Heilmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Personally I hope they change the standard and allow us to include inline
> > styles inside the body. I have not found efficient methods of creating sites
> > using a host of technologies without using css in the body.
> >
> > I'm glad the Browser makers are ignoring this and for once making our lives
> > easier :-)
> 
> That's confusing effect with cause. The need for inline styles is the
> bad implementation of CMS. Embedded style blocks are effectively
> mixing structure with presentation and a hack at best, marginally
> better than a bunch of FONT elements.
> The problem with CMS and technologies is that most of them consider
> HTML a presentation layer, which it isn't, it is a structure layer.

Well put.  And even though it's tempting to want to do it, like many
things in web development, bending the rules has the potential to
cause more trouble than it solves.

Go valid.

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Re: [css-d] Is it kosher...

2005-05-09 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Personally I hope they change the standard and allow us to include inline
> styles inside the body. I have not found efficient methods of creating sites
> using a host of technologies without using css in the body.
> 
> I'm glad the Browser makers are ignoring this and for once making our lives
> easier :-)

That's confusing effect with cause. The need for inline styles is the
bad implementation of CMS. Embedded style blocks are effectively
mixing structure with presentation and a hack at best, marginally
better than a bunch of FONT elements.
The problem with CMS and technologies is that most of them consider
HTML a presentation layer, which it isn't, it is a structure layer.

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RE: [css-d] Is it kosher...

2005-05-09 Thread Paul Duncan

Personally I hope they change the standard and allow us to include inline
styles inside the body. I have not found efficient methods of creating sites
using a host of technologies without using css in the body. 

I'm glad the Browser makers are ignoring this and for once making our lives
easier :-)

-Original Message-

On 5/6/05, Peter O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I thought everyone would say it's invalid, 
Just wondered what people though of this practise.


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Re: [css-d] Is it kosher...

2005-05-08 Thread Chris Ovenden
On 5/6/05, Peter O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ... to add a 

Re: [css-d] Is it kosher...

2005-05-06 Thread Peter O.
... to add a 

Re: [css-d] Is it kosher...

2005-05-06 Thread Bryce Fields
On 5/6/05, Dan_MailLists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chris said:
> ... to add a 

Re: [css-d] Is it kosher...

2005-05-06 Thread Dan_MailLists
Chris said:
... to add a 

Re: [css-d] Is it kosher...

2005-05-06 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Chris Ovenden wrote:
>... to add a