[css-d] IE6 Ignoring text-decoration

2006-04-05 Thread Mike Botsko
I have some links inside of a table. Two TD cells in this table have their own 
css class. When:

.cellOne {
  text-decoration: none;
}

.cellTwo {
  text-decoration: none;
}

IE6 ignores the text-decoration css for cellTwo. There's not a single other 
difference between these two cells, and even if I try apply 
style=text-decoration: none; to the a href element itself, IE ignores it. 
However, any other css in cellTwo is observed - so IE isn't ignoring the class, 
it's ignoring the text-decoration. There is no other definition of the cellTwo 
class, so nothing is overriding it. cellOne works fine.

The only other place the text-decoration is defined is the general css for all 
links, but it doesn't affect cellOne at all. Any ideas?

IE7 works fine.

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Re: [css-d] IE6 Ignoring text-decoration

2006-04-06 Thread Mike Botsko
IE was ignoring the css because the URL of the link was #, as a place-holder. 
IE saw this is a visited, so setting the text-decoration to a:visited fixed the 
issue. 

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-Original Message-
From: francky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:31 PM
To: Mike Botsko
Cc: CSS Discuss (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE6 Ignoring text-decoration


Mike Botsko wrote:

I have some links inside of a table. Two TD cells in this table have their own 
css class. When:

.cellOne {
  text-decoration: none;
}

.cellTwo {
  text-decoration: none;
}

IE6 ignores the text-decoration css for cellTwo. There's not a single other 
difference between these two cells, and even if I try apply 
style=text-decoration: none; to the a href element itself, IE ignores it. 
However, any other css in cellTwo is observed - so IE isn't ignoring the 
class, it's ignoring the text-decoration. There is no other definition of the 
cellTwo class, so nothing is overriding it. cellOne works fine.

The only other place the text-decoration is defined is the general css for all 
links, but it doesn't affect cellOne at all. Any ideas?

IE7 works fine.
  

Hi Mike,
Strange - strange- strange! I built your table, but cannot reproduce the 
problem. See testpage 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-textdecoration-IE.htm.
With IE6 under Win98SE everything is doing fine, as in FF.
Browsershots.com says:
because of a flash AddOn (nothing flashy to see in my html!) ... IE6 
under XP is crashing 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/test-underline-IE6-onXP.png
 

but seems o.k. for the underlines,
IE7beta under XP is ok 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/test-underline-IE7b-onXP.png,
Safari is o.k. 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/test-underline-Safari.png

So my conclusion for now is: or something in XP, or a typo, or something 
complicating/interfering in the rest of the css or html code?
Do you have a link to a page which shows your phenonenon?

Greetings,
francky
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[css-d] Disabling wrapping elements within a div

2006-04-17 Thread Mike Botsko
I have a test page:

http://www.botsko.net/test.html

That I am designing a very basic set of links. In the real site, the header 
will limit this area to a min-width of 600px. The number of links within this 
area will vary. If there are too many, I want them to wrap to the next line. 
However, I don't want the link text itself to wrap, so that a link is broken 
between two lines. I just want the entire link to be pushed to the next line if 
the first line is too long, I don't want it to wrap the link itself otherwise 
the gray box starts on one line and ends on the next - very ugly. I need this 
to work in IE 6+, Firefox, Safari.

Any ideas?

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Re: [css-d] Disabling wrapping elements within a div

2006-04-17 Thread Mike Botsko
Thanks. However, that causes the links to jump out of the containing header DIV 
in Firefox. In IE, the last item on each line is not wrapped, just wrapped 
within its own DIV, which expands the line-height. I'll try this using lists, 
but so far I'm still getting the weird wrapping in IE.

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Lanier, II
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 10:00 AM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Disabling wrapping elements within a div


From: Mike Botsko
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:40 AM

 http://www.botsko.net/test.html

 That I am designing a very basic set of links. In the real 
 site, the header will limit this area to a min-width of 
 600px. The number of links within this area will vary. If 
 there are too many, I want them to wrap to the next line. 
 However, I don't want the link text itself to wrap, so that a 
 link is broken between two lines. I just want the entire link 
 to be pushed to the next line if the first line is too long, 
 I don't want it to wrap the link itself otherwise the gray 
 box starts on one line and ends on the next - very ugly. I 
 need this to work in IE 6+, Firefox, Safari.

Add float:left; to your #subCatLinkBox a rule, i.e.,

#subCatLinkBox a 
{
  /* all your other rules */
  border: 1px solid #ccc;
  float:left; /* the new rule */
}

You *may* have to add a clear:left; to the section following your
div#subCatLinkBox.

However, you may want to look at marking these links as an unordered list
instead of many div's containing a single link. 

See the wiki for List tricks [1], which includes a link to Listamatic [2]
which should prove really helpful. If you want the links to appear in
columns, then the wiki multiple column lists [3] may help.

[1] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ListTricks
[2] http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
[3] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=MultipleColumnLists

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Re: [css-d] Disabling wrapping elements within a div

2006-04-17 Thread Mike Botsko
Thanks, this worked perfectly!

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-Original Message-
From: Donna Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 10:11 AM
To: CSS Discuss (E-mail)
Cc: Mike Botsko
Subject: Re: [css-d] Disabling wrapping elements within a div


Mike Botsko wrote:
 http://www.botsko.net/test.html
However, I don't want the link text itself
 to wrap, so that a link is broken between two lines. I just want the
 entire link to be pushed to the next line if the first line is too
 long, I don't want it to wrap the link itself otherwise the gray box
 starts on one line and ends on the next

for your a tags, add the following properties:

display: block;
width: auto;
float: left;
white-space: nowrap;

and then, just before the closing div of the container that surrounds 
all the links, add a clearing element:

.clearme {
clear: both;
height: 0px;
}

See this page. I set the #simulatedHeader to an 80% width so you can 
change the browser width and see that all the links behave as expected.

http://n2dreamweaver.com/n2dreamweaver/tips/nowrap.htm

HTH
Donna


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[css-d] Safari 2.0.3 doesn't see a:hover inside of LI

2006-04-20 Thread Mike Botsko
I have a header that has several top-level links like:

li onmouseover=subNavMouseover('winSubNav'); 
onmouseout=subNavMouseout();a href=/windows/ id=winMainNavWindows/a
ul id=winSubNav style=display: none;
lia href=/windows/2003/2003/a
a href=/windows/xp/XP/a
a href=/windows/2000/2000/a
a href=/windows/nt/NT/a
a href=/windows/me-98-95/ME/98/95/a
a href=/windows/Windows-All/a/li
/ul


When the user mouse-overs each top-level LI it toggles javascript to show the 
appropriate submenu (simply setting proper display: none/block values). 
Everything works fine in IE and Firefox, and the toggle/display stuff works 
fine in safari. However, the secondary LIs have an a:hover { color: #fff; } 
which shows up properly in both IE and Moz. However, Safari doesn't display the 
hover color. When you click a sublink the a:active color works fine, and if I 
try setting an onmouseover=alert() to the A element, it works fine. Safari 
just won't recognize the a:hover element for the header. 

I have noticed that it works fine if the menu is set to display: block 
initially. If someone hovers over another top-level link and I use javascript 
to set sub-level UL to style.display =block, that's when the a:hover doesn't 
work. 

Any ideas why safari won't show a:hover in a UL set to display: block by 
javascript?

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Re: [css-d] Safari 2.0.3 doesn't see a:hover inside of LI

2006-04-20 Thread Mike Botsko
Updated:

The a:hover still won't show at all in Safari for me when the UL/LI the link 
sits within was set to display: block by javascript. However, setting a 
onmouseover=this.style.color = '#fff' works fine, but is more code than I 
want and seems very unnecessary. I tried creating a test page for safari just 
to make sure this isn't a bug, and it worked fine. It's something in my code 
that somehow only affects safari.

Has anyone ever seen this? I don't see why safari will recognize the 
onmouseover, but not the a:hover?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Botsko
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:57 AM
To: CSS Discuss (E-mail)
Subject: [css-d] Safari 2.0.3 doesn't see a:hover inside of LI


I have a header that has several top-level links like:

li onmouseover=subNavMouseover('winSubNav'); 
onmouseout=subNavMouseout();a href=/windows/ id=winMainNavWindows/a
ul id=winSubNav style=display: none;
lia href=/windows/2003/2003/a
a href=/windows/xp/XP/a
a href=/windows/2000/2000/a
a href=/windows/nt/NT/a
a href=/windows/me-98-95/ME/98/95/a
a href=/windows/Windows-All/a/li
/ul


When the user mouse-overs each top-level LI it toggles javascript to show the 
appropriate submenu (simply setting proper display: none/block values). 
Everything works fine in IE and Firefox, and the toggle/display stuff works 
fine in safari. However, the secondary LIs have an a:hover { color: #fff; } 
which shows up properly in both IE and Moz. However, Safari doesn't display the 
hover color. When you click a sublink the a:active color works fine, and if I 
try setting an onmouseover=alert() to the A element, it works fine. Safari 
just won't recognize the a:hover element for the header. 

I have noticed that it works fine if the menu is set to display: block 
initially. If someone hovers over another top-level link and I use javascript 
to set sub-level UL to style.display =block, that's when the a:hover doesn't 
work. 

Any ideas why safari won't show a:hover in a UL set to display: block by 
javascript?

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Re: [css-d] Safari 2.0.3 doesn't see a:hover inside of LI

2006-04-20 Thread Mike Botsko
Ok, let me ask this in a simpler way.

Why would safari recognize:

onmouseover=this.style.color='#fff'

but not

a:hover {
  color: #fff;
}

?

I've defined a:link, a:visited, a:active in the same css file before defining 
the a:hover. The hover works perfectly in both Firefox and IE. The element sits 
inside a UL/LI that is set to display: none when the page loads. If you hover 
over a navigation menu, javascript sets the UL/LI to display: block.

If this same menu were set to display: block; when the page loaded, everything 
would work fine. It seems that the javascript setting 
document.getElementById(problemNav).style.display = block somehow prevents 
safari from seeing the :hover. Remove the javascript and set it to display: 
block, and it works.

Any ideas?


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Botsko
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:56 AM
To: CSS Discuss (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [css-d] Safari 2.0.3 doesn't see a:hover inside of LI


Updated:

The a:hover still won't show at all in Safari for me when the UL/LI the link 
sits within was set to display: block by javascript. However, setting a 
onmouseover=this.style.color = '#fff' works fine, but is more code than I 
want and seems very unnecessary. I tried creating a test page for safari just 
to make sure this isn't a bug, and it worked fine. It's something in my code 
that somehow only affects safari.

Has anyone ever seen this? I don't see why safari will recognize the 
onmouseover, but not the a:hover?

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Botsko
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:57 AM
To: CSS Discuss (E-mail)
Subject: [css-d] Safari 2.0.3 doesn't see a:hover inside of LI


I have a header that has several top-level links like:

li onmouseover=subNavMouseover('winSubNav'); 
onmouseout=subNavMouseout();a href=/windows/ id=winMainNavWindows/a
ul id=winSubNav style=display: none;
lia href=/windows/2003/2003/a
a href=/windows/xp/XP/a
a href=/windows/2000/2000/a
a href=/windows/nt/NT/a
a href=/windows/me-98-95/ME/98/95/a
a href=/windows/Windows-All/a/li
/ul


When the user mouse-overs each top-level LI it toggles javascript to show the 
appropriate submenu (simply setting proper display: none/block values). 
Everything works fine in IE and Firefox, and the toggle/display stuff works 
fine in safari. However, the secondary LIs have an a:hover { color: #fff; } 
which shows up properly in both IE and Moz. However, Safari doesn't display the 
hover color. When you click a sublink the a:active color works fine, and if I 
try setting an onmouseover=alert() to the A element, it works fine. Safari 
just won't recognize the a:hover element for the header. 

I have noticed that it works fine if the menu is set to display: block 
initially. If someone hovers over another top-level link and I use javascript 
to set sub-level UL to style.display =block, that's when the a:hover doesn't 
work. 

Any ideas why safari won't show a:hover in a UL set to display: block by 
javascript?

Michael Botsko
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Re: [css-d] CSS editor?

2006-04-21 Thread Mike Botsko
Personally I use PSPad for editing everything. Dreamweaver 8 has some good css 
editing tools but it's not a sole reason to obtain Dreamweaver.

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-Original Message-


what do you guys (and gals) recommend as a CSS editor?

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[css-d] Two inline, centered DIVs with line breaks inside

2006-04-24 Thread Mike Botsko
I have two links that I want to sit inside of a big gray box. Those two big 
gray boxes will be next to each other (matching heights) and centered in the 
page. However the second link has br / tags within it. 

div id=linkButtons
  div class=linkButtona href = Removed Link Text/a/div
  div class=linkButtona href = Removed Link Textbr /and some morebr 
/Removed Link Text/a/div
/div

  #linkButtons {
width: 100%;
text-align: center;
border: 1px solid red;
  }
  
.linkButton {
  height: 40px;
  width: 200px;
  margin: auto;
  padding: 20px 10px;
  background-color: #ccc;
  border: 1px solid #000;
  font-size: 20pt;
}

Now this achieves everything I want except that the DIVs will not sit next to 
each other horizontally, only vertically. If I try adding display: inline; to 
the linkButton class, it makes them sit where I want, but the link break 
element causes the div to become three imcompleted boxes - one for each line, 
missing a preceeding border (following the text). How I can make them sit next 
to each other yet remain one box surrounding the entire link?

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Re: [css-d] Two inline, centered DIVs with line breaks inside

2006-04-24 Thread Mike Botsko
The problem with the float: left is that it offsets the centering. The two 
boxes are together and with a clear element the DIV boxes surround the links 
properly, but both links show up in the top left of the wrapping DIV.

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-Original Message-
From: Christian Montoya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 4/24/06, Mike Botsko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have two links that I want to sit inside of a big gray box. Those two big 
 gray boxes will be next to each other (matching heights) and centered in the 
 page. However the second link has br / tags within it.

 div id=linkButtons
   div class=linkButtona href = Removed Link Text/a/div
   div class=linkButtona href = Removed Link Textbr /and some 
 morebr /Removed Link Text/a/div
 /div

Best I can think of:

.linkButtons { margin:0 auto; width: 400px; }

.linkButton { float:left; width:50%; }

And there might need to be a clearing element after the two
div.linkButton to keep them contained.


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Re: [css-d] IE6 , page not displaying

2006-05-03 Thread Mike Botsko
You have an !-- at the beginning of the style statement, but no ending. If you 
add the end to the /style tag, IE will work.

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Subject: [css-d] IE6 , page not displaying


Trying a simple 3 col fluid layout.  It refuses to show up in IE6.  Firefox 
seems fine. 

http://pamshop.com/Template1/exp10.html

I checked markup, simple and correct.  #wrapper has min-width: 720px; which i 
think is IE incompatible but I expected to see something.  Sorry to ask but 
anyone understand what's going on ?

TIA
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[css-d] IE loosing z-index when parent elem has position: relative

2006-05-12 Thread Mike Botsko
I have DIV within a DIV that is hidden until a user clicks a javascript link to 
make it visible.

div id=promoEnterPromoCode
(a href=javascript:togglePromoWindow()I have a promo code/a)
div id=enterPromoBlk
 Some form
/div
/div

Css is:

#promoEnterPromoCode {
  display: block;
  position: relative;
  margin-left: 0px
}

  #enterPromoBlk  {
position: absolute;
  top: 10px; 
  left: 10px; 
width: 400px;
padding: 10px;
background-color: #eee;
visibility: hidden;
z-index: 5000;
border: 1px solid #666;
  }


Now in firefox and safari this works fine. In IE, the enterPromoBlk div 
looses any z-index value as long as the position: relative is in 
promoEnterPromoCode. The inner div shows up behind in the other elements on 
the page, making it very hard to see no matter what the z-index is set to. If I 
remove the position: relative, IE shows the element fine, yet it shows absolute 
to the viewport instead - way far away from where it needs to be. Any ideas?
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Re: [css-d] IE loosing z-index when parent elem has position: relative

2006-05-12 Thread Mike Botsko
Here is a link to an example. If you click on a link in IE, IE ignores the 
z-index as long as the parent div has a position: relative. Any ideas how I can 
make IE place the inner div above other page elements instead of behind them?


http://www.botsko.net/Test/zindex.htm

-Original Message-

Now in firefox and safari this works fine. In IE, the enterPromoBlk div 
looses any z-index value as long as the position: relative is in 
promoEnterPromoCode. The inner div shows up behind in the other elements on 
the page, making it very hard to see no matter what the z-index is set to. If I 
remove the position: relative, IE shows the element fine, yet it shows absolute 
to the viewport instead - way far away from where it needs to be. Any ideas?
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[css-d] Readonly textarea backround color ignored in firefox

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Botsko
I have a textarea that is set to readonly=readonly and no matter what I try, 
Firefox 1.5.0.3 shows the background as a brownish color. IE shows the 
background as white which is what I want. If I inspect the element using 
Firebug, it says the background color of the textarea is white, yet it's 
obviously not.

http://www.botsko.net/Test/readonly_textarea.html
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Re: [css-d] Readonly textarea backround color ignored in firefox

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Botsko
Apparently, it's only white that doesn't work. If you set it to any other color 
it works fine.


On 23/05/06, Mike Botsko  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I have a textarea that is set to readonly=readonly and no matter what I try, 
Firefox 1.5.0.3 shows the background as a brownish color. IE shows the 
background as white which is what I want. If I inspect the element using 
Firebug, it says the background color of the textarea is white, yet it's 
obviously not. 

http://www.botsko.net/Test/readonly_textarea.html

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Re: [css-d] Readonly textarea backround color ignored in firefox

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Botsko
 -Original Message-
 I have a textarea that is set to readonly=readonly and no 
 matter what I try, Firefox 1.5.0.3 shows the background as a 
 brownish color. IE shows the background as white which is 
 what I want. If I inspect the element using Firebug, it says 
 the background color of the textarea is white, yet it's obviously not.
 
 http://www.botsko.net/Test/readonly_textarea.html

-Original Message-
Mike, it shows up white in both IE6 and Firefox 1.5.0.3 running on
Win2K here.

This issue appears to be a Windows only thing... maybe even only Windows
XP. I've tested it here and IE/Safari/Firefox Mac are working fine.
However, I've verified that on two Windows XP Pro machines, using
Firefox 1.5.0.3, textareas cannot be assigned a background-color of
white if they're set to readonly.

Someone mentioned that this doesn't happen in Windows 2k, so maybe it's
a bug relating to FF and Windows XP. Can anyone else verify on various
Windows machines?
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Re: [css-d] Readonly textarea backround color ignored in firefox

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Botsko
-Original Message-
 http://www.botsko.net/Test/readonly_textarea.html

FYI - Many of you confirm that this tends to happen on Win XP. I have no idea 
why this happens and there did not appear to be a bug filed for it yet. I have 
filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339016.



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Re: [css-d] IE issues

2006-07-14 Thread Mike Botsko
I think that if you decrease the space alotted for the text, IE will display it 
correctly. It looks as if IE is pushing the element down because there's just 
not quite enough space for the text and the sidebar elements to be next to each 
other. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zach Shepherd
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 2:19 PM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] IE issues


I'm having some issues getting a page to display properly in MSIE (what a
surprise).

http://shepherdspecialties.com/p-ville_dev/

In FF and Opera, it looks fine to me (the bar on the right is a bar on the
right), but MSIE seems to have a problem re-arranging it.

I can't figure out if it's a bug in IE or something with my code...

Thanks for any help you may be able to provide!
Zach
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Re: [css-d] No style applied to an A that lacks an HREF... Why?

2006-08-01 Thread Mike Botsko
If you have a blank or # href, IE assumes that it's a link to the current page 
and sees it as a visited link, which means it's only going to use the a.visited 
attribute.

-Original Message-
..
It's almost as if IE doesn't look for a style unless there's an  
href attribute associated with the a element.

Anybody have a clue what's going on? BTW, Safari on Mac applies  
the :hover style as expected.

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[css-d] site check: squibbles

2006-09-11 Thread Mike Botsko
http://www.mysquibbles.com


For now the text size is fixed with PX, so I know I'm going to have problems 
with text sizes. 
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