[CTRL] Uniting Belief
-Caveat Lector- From Irish Times Monday, May 10, 1999 Romanians told to heal rift with Orthodoxy - --- From Kieran Cooke, in Bucharest NICOLAE Ceausescu, the former Communist dictator of Romania overthrown in a violent revolt 10 years ago, had a passion for grandiose building projects. In the centre of Bucharest, Ceaucsescu ordered the construction of what is one of the world's biggest buildings, a lavishly decorated palace with more than 1,000 rooms. In the shadow of this gigantic Communist monument, the fiercely anti-communist Pope John Paul II said Mass yesterday evening on the final stage of a three-day visit to Romania. More than 200,000 people, one of the biggest crowds seen in Romania for several years, had gathered in hot spring sunshine to attend. Many had journeyed for several hours from Romania's Catholic heartlands of Transylvania, in central Romania, and Moldova in the north-east of the country. While the Pope's trip to Romania was a relatively subdued affair in comparison with many papal tours, it was seen by Rome as a vital bridge-building exercise with the Orthodox Church. Romania's Orthodox Church is the world's second-biggest after Russia. The Pope's trip marks the first time a pontiff has paid an official visit to a country where the majority are Orthodox. Pope John Paul, who impressed the crowds by speaking in Romanian at all his public engagements, talked of the need for arguments between Rome and the world of Orthodoxy to be resolved. "These ancient wounds must be healed," he said. Patriarch Teoctist, the head of the Romanian Orthodox Church, accompanied the pontiff on a drive through the capital. The two were in attendance at each other's services, singing their blessings to the crowds like a well practised duet. The Romanians, though strongly influenced by their Slav neighbours, are primarily Latin in their language and character. Patriarch Teoctist is reported to have joked with the Pope about the strange paradox of a trip in which a Slav pope came to meet a Latin patriarch. Romania, racked by economic problems with rising unemployment and much of its infrastructure in serous decline, is desperate for foreign investment. The Pope's visit was seen as a way of showing that the country is opening up to the world. Romania's economic problems have been exacerbated by the Yugoslav conflict. One of the country's main trade routes, the Danube, has been blocked as a result of NATO's bombing campaign. However, Bucharest, which has made EU and NATO membership key objectives of its foreign policy, is allowing NATO aircraft to use its air space. The Pope and the Orthodox patriarch issued a joint declaration calling on all sides in the conflict to put down their arms and stressing the dangers of war in the Balkans region. But for all the bonhomie between the two church leaders, there are still tensions between Rome and the Orthodox Church. Only about 6 per cent of Romania's 23 million people are Catholics. These include about 250,000 who are Greek Catholics, a community that broke away from Orthodoxy in the 17th century. The Greek Catholics recognise the jurisdiction of Rome but follow many Orthodox practices, including allowing priests to marry. The Greek Catholics were suppressed during the years of Communist rule: priests and bishops were tortured and imprisoned and church property was confiscated. Some Greek Catholics accuse the Orthodox Church of having collaborated with the Communists and arguments over the return of confiscated Greek Catholic properties are only now being addressed. AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust
Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] nurev wrote: "Howard R. Davis III" wrote: Ric Carter wrote: Does the concept of the primacy of "individual rights" preclude any individuals from joining in free association, incorporating as groups to engage in commercial, charitable, governmental or other activities? Do corporations [public or private] have more, equal or less rights than individuals? Corporations do not have individual rights nor should they. They are a creation of government and thus should be regulated. No no. They are the creation of Capitalists with the license from government. Jeez guys, can't you get over this government as bogey- man shit? It positively ruins your thinking abilities. A corporation is an artificial entity. It can have no existence without government. It is you that have a problem with your thinking ability. It is true that someone (usually capitalists, but also others) may petition the government for the corporation's creation and own it. It is, however, created by the government when a charter is filed. Everybody's missing the point: a gov't is a corporation too, as are non-profit agencies [NGOs], religions, any groups that are organized within certain guidelines [which vary from place to place]. To that extent, ANY legally organized group is an "artificial entity", eh? Cities, churches, cartels, charities, manufacturers, bankers, unions, traders, lawyers, political parties, doctors, all incorporate under the laws of some jurisdiction or another. And such a jurisdiction, itself a corporation, defines the rights/privileges/obligations of any individual or organized group within that jurisdiction. So I return to my original question: does the concept of "individual rights" interfere with the ability of individuals to associate, to join together, to organize in groups, for whatever purpose? Do people in groups have more or equal or less rights/privileges/obligations than they do individually, as seen from the context of "individual rights"? Remember, people organize such groups precisely because a group is capable of mustering resources, developing specialties, doing things that an individual is unable to do. So, because a group can do things an individual can't, is a group more or less responsible for its actions than an individual would be? Or does "individual rights" mean that groups are non-entities, fictional, evil, what? Ric, puzzled... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Michael: Flaw in Capitalist system]
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- MJ: No one is FORCED to purchase *anything* (except Government). So long as this same entity does not prevent entry into the marketplace, *anyone* may 'offer' alternatives. nurev wrote: That's right. No one is forced to buy food, or shelter, or transportation, or education, or health insurance, or entertainment, or life saving drugs. No one is FORCED to obtain money in a money based economic system. The alternative, of course, is simply to die.In your ideal world of freedom, all have the freedom starve, freeze, or work for the likes of you. MJ: What happens [in your ideal world of pull-peddlers who plunder and redistribute] when the productive cease their activities? Which " productive?" Stockholders? Managers? Bosses? Investors? Actors? Middlemen? Lawyers? Pro Athletes? Pet Rock Manufacturers? Ticket scalpers? Politicians? CEO's? Bankers? nurev wrote: You Libertarians are pathetic and ridiculous. MJ: As stated numerous times, I am not nor have I ever claimed to be a Libertarian. I know what you are, you are a deluded ideologue divorced from reality. However, you keep quoting Libertarians like Milton Friedman, economic Libertarians ( free traders,) likr Von Mises, and anarcho- Libertarians. But mostly you quote those mouldering dead lawyers and landlords from the 18th century. This is the dawn of the 21st century. Wake up! nurev wrote: You guys may be dumb enough to equate freedom with the free market, but just about everyone else knows that the free market = widespread slavery for working people. MJ: What is a 'working person'? Millions of people labor each and every day ... from the 'sweep boy' to the 'CEO'. Oh come on. Even you are not so demented that you would equate the two. Are you? Joshua2 Regard$, --MJ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sen. Inhofe Almost Assassinated?
-Caveat Lector- Senator Inhofe has been openly critical lately on U.S. policy. Then, next thing you know, the propeller on his airplane falls off. Below from USA Today 5/10/99. _ Sen. Inhofe makes emergency landing CLAREMORE, Okla. - Sen. Jim Inhofe, a pilot for 41 years, made an emergency landing early Saturday after the propeller fell off his airplane. Inhofe, R-Okla., was not injured, but his single-engine airplane was slightly damaged, said press secretary Danny Finnerty. Inhofe was alone in the aircraft. Inhofe said he glided for about eight miles before landing the plane at Claremore Airport. He said he took off from Ketchum, where he keeps his 1979 Grumman Tiger, and had been in the air about 10 minutes when trouble began. Inhofe, an experienced, commercially rated pilot, was en route from northeastern Oklahoma to Oklahoma City, where he was to meet President Clinton, who was touring tornado-ravaged parts of central Oklahoma. Finnerty said the FBI has been asked to investigate because "propellers don't just fly off airplanes every day." _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pipes on Property
-Caveat Lector- CHAPTER ONE Property and Freedom By RICHARD PIPES Alfred A. Knopf THE IDEA OF PROPERTY Property can be studied from two distinct points of view: as a concept and as an institution. The two approaches yield very different results. Throughout the history of thought, property has enjoyed a mixed reputation, being identified sometimes with prosperity and freedom, sometimes with moral corruption, social injustice, and war. Utopian fantasies, as a rule, place the abolition of the distinction between "mine" and "thine" at the center of their vision. Even many thinkers favoring property view it as, at best, an unavoidable evil. The history of all societies, on the other hand, from the most primitive to the most advanced, reveals the universality of property claims and the failure of every attempt to found a propertyless community, whether voluntarily or by force. In this instance, therefore, there is an unusually wide disparity between what mankind thinks it wants and what, judging by its actions, it really prefers. Lewis Mumford explained this disparity by suggesting that man lives in two worlds-the world within and the world without, the first being the realm of ideas, wishes, and images, the latter that of harsh, inescapable reality. "If the physical environment is the earth, the world of ideas corresponds to the heavens." We shall, accordingly, divide our discussion into two parts. The present chapter will deal with the attitudes toward property of Western philosophers, theologians, and political theorists. The chapter that follows will be devoted to the institution of property as revealed by history, psychology, anthropology, and sociobiology. The distinction, of course, is artificial and is introduced only for the sake of clarity of exposition; in actuality, ideas and events have constantly interacted. As we shall point out, every change in attitude toward property can be explained by political or economic developments. Discussions of property from the time of Plato and Aristotle to the present have revolved around four principal themes: its relation to politics, ethics, economics, and psychology. 1. The political argument in favor of property holds that (unless distributed in a grossly unfair manner) it promotes stability and constrains the power of government. Against property it is claimed that the inequality which necessarily accompanies it generates social unrest. 2. From the moral point of view, it is said that property is legitimate because everyone is entitled to the fruits of his labor. To which critics respond that many owners exert no effort to acquire what they own and that the same logic requires everyone to have an equal opportunity to acquire property. 3. The economic line of reasoning for property holds that it is the most efficient means of producing wealth, whereas opponents hold that economic activity driven by the pursuit of private gain leads to wasteful competition. 4. The psychological defense of property maintains that it enhances the individual's sense of identity and self-esteem. Others assert that it corrupts the personality by infecting it with greed. These four approaches fairly exhaust the range of arguments for and against property articulated during the past three thousand years. At its most fundamental, the controversy pits the moral approach against the pragmatic. 1. Classical antiquity The ethical treatment of property, which has dominated the discussion until modern times, has evolved against the background of a pervasive belief in the existence of a "Golden Age." In its most familiar guise, the Golden Age is the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic Paradise (Garden of Eden), but in one form or another it is common to all civilizations. The outstanding quality of this mythical past is the absence of private ownership: in the Golden Age everything is said to have been held in common and the words "mine" and "thine" were unknown. Since, as we shall show in the chapter that follows, no society has ever existed without some kind of property, the vision of an ideal propertyless world must be grounded not in collective memory but in collective longing. It is inspired by the belief that inequalities of status and wealth are "unnatural." They have to be man-made, not God-made: for are not all beings born equal and, upon death, do they not turn alike to dust? The earliest known depiction of the Golden Age occurs in a work by Hesiod, a contemporary of Homer, called Works and Days. The Greek poet of the early seventh century B.C.E.
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-72, Day 48, Update 1 (May 10; 0:15AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. Issue S99-72, Day 48, Update 1 --- May 10, 1999; 0:15AM EDT HEADLINES Belgrade 1. Two Chinese Sweethearts (Newlyweds) Among the Embassy Dead Beijing 2. As China Roars, U.S. Embassy, Consulates Are Under Siege Toronto 3. Massive Anti-war Demonstrations in Canadian City Which Is a Model of Multiculturalism Phoenix4. Some Reactions to "What to Do with World Class War Criminals?" Belgrade 5. Hanibal Ante Portas: Barbarians Are at Our Gates (By Branislav Andjelic) -- 1. Two Chinese Sweethearts (Newlyweds) Among the Embassy Dead BELGRADE, May 9 - Two newlywed Chinese reporters were among the four people killed in NATO's May 7 attack on the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, the Washington Post reported today. "Xu Xinghu and Zhu Ying were newlyweds. They lived in China's embassy in Belgrade. Earlier today, four NATO bombs struck the building, killing them both," the Post said. Xu, 31, was a graduate of the Beijing Foreign Languages University and a Serbian speaker. He'd been dispatched to Yugoslavia in July 1998, soon after he married Zhu. Xu was a correspondent for Guangming Daily, one of China's top five newspapers. Zhu had been an arts editor at the paper. Since NATO's aerial strikes on Yugoslavia began March 24, Xu had published 43 stories. His series of reports, called "Living Under Gunfire," was a diary of daily life in Belgrade. He wrote about fuel shortages, food, listed the number of houses NATO destroyed and the challenge of writing about a city under attack. In his last report, he wrote about an evening he spent at the site of a NATO attack. "The place was exploding with noise. The planes were roaring overhead. I parked my car on the side of the road and waited until the attack ended. I called Zhu Ying to tell her I was okay." The NATO missiles left friends and relatives back home devastated. "We used to think that NATO's bombing was far away from us. Now we see that it's very close," said Xu Changyin, deputy director of the New China News Agency, which also lost a journalist. Correspondent Shao Yunhuan was killed and her husband, a diplomat, was seriously injured, Xu said. Shao, who also spoke Serbian, had been sent to Belgrade in early March. --- 2. As China Roars, U.S. Embassy, Consulates Are Under Siege BEIJING, May 9 - As China roared this weekend in angry protests against the NATO attack on its Belgrade embassy, the American embassy in Beijing is in a state of siege. Never mind what the Clinton News Network and other "lie and deny" media sources are reporting. There were tens of thousands of demonstrators in front of the embassy in Beijing all through the night between Saturday and Sunday, hurling stones and insults at the symbol of the New World Order. Several other U.S. and British consulates across this vast country were also under attack by angry mobs. The situation is all the more extraordinary since the Chinese communist government has repressed any mass demonstrations for any cause ever since the June 4, 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, whose anniversary is just around the corner. Here are excerpts from a very emotional, and thus perhaps not as reliable(?), dispatch which we have received from a Serbian source in Beijing whose apartment is "50 meters away from the American embassy." But if you manage to strip away the excess emotion of the moment, perhaps you will still grasp the enormity of the blunder which NATO has just committed. It was bad enough to have 200 million Russians seething with anger at the West over NATO's bombing of Serbia. Add to it the billion-plus Chinese, and you've got one hell of a "chow mein" in the making... "It is midnight now (May 9). The Chinese are coming, and coming, and coming... The entire nearby boulevard is blocked by the buses, cars, people... They are carrying posters of Clinton with the swastika, singing songs - like, "Destroy, destroy barbarians, but you'll pay in the end." Or, the "hour has arrived to stop America in her mad attack." About half an hour ago, they started to knock down the (U.S. embassy) fence, throw stones at its windows. They've already broken the street lights at the entrance to the embassy. Chinese radio has just reported that all nearby provinces (states - in the American lingo), are sending their own protesters to the U.S. embassy. And that by Monday, we can expect a million people in front of the embassy! The Chinese TV has just shown similar demonstrations all across the country. In Hong Kong and Canton, protesters could be seen
[CTRL] Fwd: Indonesia
__ Stratfor's FREE Kosovo Crisis Center - http://www.stratfor.com/kosovo/crisis/ The most comprehensive coverage of the Kosovo Crisis anywhere on the Internet __ STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update May 10, 1999 The Emerging Indonesian Crisis and its Strategic Implications Summary: Indonesia's coming presidential elections have created enormous social and political tension domestically, and they have significant strategic implications. With U.S.-Chinese relations at their lowest point in years, the possibility of confrontation over Indonesia is substantial. Indonesia is vital strategically, sitting astride the trade routes between the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Everything from Japanese oil supplies, to Singapore's banking system and U.S. power projection in the Persian Gulf, are at risk in an Indonesian crisis. The crisis is also an opportunity for China to do what Russia did in Yugoslavia: make it clear to the United States and the region that China cannot be excluded from the regional dynamic and that the U.S. does not have the ability, without Chinese cooperation, to act in Asia. Everything is in place for a crisis that could dwarf Kosovo in global significance. Analysis: More than anywhere else in Asia, Indonesia was socially and economically destabilized by the 1997 Asian meltdown. Indonesia has recovered less than almost any other Asian country, thus feeding the social and political crisis. The social and political crisis has, in turn, made recovery impossible. Indonesia has been caught in a downward spiral that could result in a major crack-up, triggered by a presidential campaign that is scheduled to begin on May 19 and culminate in elections on June 7. There are some real questions about whether those elections can be held without a blood bath and indeed, whether Indonesia can ultimately survive the political crisis surrounding the elections. Indonesia's Asian neighbors are deeply concerned. On May 7, both South Korea and Taiwan warned their nationals against traveling to Indonesia in the coming weeks. Today, Thailand joined in that warning. Let's consider the origins of this potential crisis. President B.J. Habibe assumed the Presidency of Indonesia after President Suharto, who had ruled Indonesia for more than thirty years since he overthrew his predecessor, Sukarno. Upon taking power, Suharto had waged a ruthless campaign against Indonesia's small, but extremely wealthy, Chinese community. Tens of thousands of Chinese were slaughtered, to state a conservative number. Why were the Chinese attacked? The Chinese community had become a mainstay of Sukarno's power. First, its financial resources buttressed Sukarno's regime. Second, the Indonesian Communist Party (PKI), which was substantially broader than the Chinese community alone, but which was closely linked to the People's Republic of China (PRC), had grown in strength and threatened to create a revolutionary regime. Sukarno tried to balance between the competing forces in Indonesia, but the dynamics of the situation drew him closer into the PKI/PRC orbit. Suharto overthrew Sukarno and with that action arrayed himself against both the PRC and Indonesia's domestic Chinese community. There were two foundations for Suharto's regime. One was xenophobia against the Chinese residing in Indonesia and China itself. The importance of this xenophobia cannot be overestimated. Indonesia is not so much a country as a legal fiction imposed on widely dispersed islands by Dutch colonialism. This regime governs a mixture of ethnic groups, religions, languages and deep resentments, not much dissimilar in scope and intensity to what we have seen of late in Kosovo. Both Sukarno and Suharto sought psychological glue to hold the country together. For Sukarno it was the creation of a revolutionary nationalism that sought confrontation with neighbors. For Suharto it was an inward looking nationalism that drew its strength from anti-Chinese sentiment. The second pillar of the regime was the Indonesian Army. The only truly national institution, the Army represented a means for the elite to administer the country and a path toward upward mobility for poor peasant boys. The Army suppressed not only the Chinese community, but also numerous regional challenges to Djakarta's authority. The Army's command structure remained loyal to the Suharto regime because Suharto cleverly used the expanding Indonesian economy of the 1970s and 1980s to reward local and regional commanders. Indeed, the Army became a participant in and a facilitator of the tremendous growth in Indonesia's economy. It also became a prime beneficiary, participating at many levels in the lucrative deals that were being made until the collapse of 1997. All of this motivated the Army to hold the country together. Moreover, it gave regional political and military administrators the means for
[CTRL] Fwd: What to Do with World Class War Criminals? - a letter to the Wall Street Journal (5/09/99)
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA Thought you may be interested in the enclosed letter to the Wall Street Journal. The letter is also available at the Truth in Media Web site (http://www.truthinmedia.org/Activism/wsj5-9-99.html), along with other commments in the "TiM Activism" section. Best, Bob Dj. - May 9, 1999; 12:50 PM Ned Crabb Letters Editor THE WALL STREET JOURNAL New York, NY - Subject: A letter to the editor re. the editorial, "A Good Deal for Milosevic," May 7, 1999 Dear Ned, Your editorial, "A Good Deal for Milosevic" (May 7, 1999), quotes Victor Chernomyrdin, Russia's special envoy for the Balkans, as saying that the peace proposal, agreed to by NATO leaders in Bonn, Germany on May 6, was "a good deal for Milosevic," Yugoslavia's president. To which your editors added, "certainly it is a far better deal than the gallows he no doubt reserves." Well, well... he who lives in a glass house should not cast stones. If Milosevic deserves the gallows, what then shall be proper punishment for the world class criminals, like Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Jacques Chirac, Wesley Kanne Clark, Madeleine Albright, Sam Berger, William Cohen, Javier Solana, Jean Chretien... to name a few? Or for the accomplices of these mass murderers of innocent civilians and Chinese diplomats - the globalists who bought them and put them in positions of power - the Bilderbergers, the Trilateralists, or the CFR members? Which includes, of course, many members of the media, such as the Wall Street Journal's publisher, Peter Kann, and the editor-in-chief, Bob Bartley. If Milosevic deserves the gallows, the proper punishment for these war criminals may be what the Ottoman Islamic rulers of the Balkans, whose descendants are now NATO members and Washington's allies, used to mete out to local Christians - impaling them on a stick. For all gory details of what that was like, your publisher and editor may wish to check out the Nobel Prize-winning novel, "The Bridge on the Drina," by Ivo Andric (George Allen Unwin (Publishers) Ltd., 1959, ISSN 0-04-823017-0). But personally, I'd prefer sending them to Serbia to face the parents of the children they've killed; to beg the people they have crippled for life for forgiveness. And then, if they are granted mercy, as I suspect they would be by the Serb Christians, be condemned to hard labor for life; rebuilding with their own hands the country they have destroyed, but whose spirit they could never vanquish. Meanwhile, if the above-named world class thugs think that they are above the law, they should read the formal complaint filed at the International War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague this week against 60 of them by a group of Canadian lawyers. And a parallel legal action being taken by Glen Rangwala, an international lawyer at the Cambridge University in Britain. And then they should consider what Russia's foreign minister, Igor Ivanov, said on May 8 - that those who launched the military strikes against Yugoslavia "must be punished appropriately." He warned the NATO leaders that those who "hope to escape punishment are seriously deluding themselves." As were the Nazi leaders at their pinnacle of power. Best regards, Bob Djurdjevic Founder, Truth in Media Phoenix, Arizona -- NOTE: To cancel the e-mail editions of our reports, just reply with REMOVE or UNSUBSCRIBE, followed by your e-mail address. Bob Djurdjevic TRUTH IN MEDIA Phoenix, Arizona e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the Truth in Media Web site http://www.truthinmedia.org/ for more articles on geopolitical affairs.
[CTRL] OEN 5/10/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Gold Market UK Sells the Family Gold Other central banks to follow suit? There are three questions to ask about the British government's decision, announced on Friday, to sell more than half its gold reserves over the next few years. Does the decision make sense? Is the timing right? And is the Treasury going about the job in the most sensible fashion? It is hard to be entirely rational about the case for holding gold bullion, as is evidenced by some of the comments over the weekend about this move. For example, there is no merit in suggestions from the Conservative opposition that the sale represents in some way a plot by the government to drag the UK into the single currency by stealth. Instead, it is just the latest in a series of decisions by central banks around the world - the Netherlands, Belgium, Argentina, Australia and Canada, to name just five - to reduce their bullion holdings. Central banks everywhere are seeking to improve the return on their reserves: for those within the single currency, this is one of their few remaining roles. Gold generates no income directly. And the scope for capital appreciation is limited by the probability of further official sales into the foreseeable future from, among others, the International Monetary Fund and from those members of the European Union that find themselves with more reserves than they need after consolidation of monetary affairs into the European Central Bank. The ECB has said it intends to hold 15 per cent of its reserves in the form of gold. By this benchmark the UK, which holds more than two fifths of its net reserves in bullion, can comfortably afford to cut back its holdings. As for the timing, the bullion price is close to the low point of a broad range spreading back over the past dozen years, and although the UK Treasury is by no means the last in the queue of likely sellers, that prospect is presumably already reflected in the price. But there is no reason to think that it would have done better by waiting. At least there were no leaks ahead of the event, and perhaps the worst that can be said about the timing is that the government appears to have been up to its old tricks of short-term news management. There were other things to excite the headline writers on the day after crucial elections across the UK. The decision to sell the gold by way of auction, and to announce the news in advance, is entirely to be welcomed. Gold auctions work well, as the US government showed back in the 1970s. Far better to conduct them in a transparent fashion than to allow the sales to be conducted in secret by a group of insiders. And with annual mining output running at more than 2,500 tonnes, the market is well capable of handling a sale of 125 tonnes from the British in 1999-2000. The Financial Times, May 10, 1999 Der Fuhrer Bombs Chinese Embassy US and UK Companies Tighten Security in China There goes our investment. US and British companies were yesterday stepping up security for their staff in China in the face of increasingly hostile anti-Nato protests spreading across the country's cities. Tens of thousands of demonstrators, some shouting "Kill Americans" and "Get out American pigs" and others hurling bricks at the US and British embassy buildings, rallied in Beijing during the weekend to vent their anger at the Nato bombing of China's embassy in Belgrade. As the protests grew yesterday James Sasser, US ambassador to China, said on television that he was concerned Chinese authorities could lose control. "No question that we're hostages here," he told CBS's Face the Nation. Describing the situation as ugly, he said virtually every window in the embassy's chancery and his personal residence had been broken. He said his wife and son were evacuated outside Beijing. The Chinese government last night announced its support for the mass protests which have targeted the US and British diplomatic missions and isolated foreign businesses and institutions across the country. Hu Jintao, vice-president, said on national television that the outpouring of public rage was an expression of "the keen patriotism of the Chinese people" and a condemnation of "the barbaric acts of the US-led Nato". But he also called on protesters to act within the law. The state media has fuelled public outrage by suggesting the attack on the Chinese embassy was deliberate. Nato and the US have acknowledged they targeted the embassy due to an error of intelligence, but their apologies have not been broadcast in China. The attacks on US property by angry students and workers, who threw rocks and paving stones at embassy buildings and American cars while Chinese police stood by, marked the most venomous outpouring of anti-US sentiment since bilateral ties were established 20 years ago. The bombings, which left four
[CTRL] Separation by the Numbers
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.19/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.19/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 19 /A - Laissez Faire City Times May 10, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 19 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Separation by the Numbers by Peter Topolewski Gaining independence has never been easy, and rarely is it beautiful. These days we need only watch the horror show in the Balkans, the epic drama in the Middle East, or even the comedic follies in Quebec, Canada (where francophones eternally threaten to secede but never do) to bear witness to this bitter truth. In Canada, however, Quebecs minority effort to form an independent state is not the most interesting or the most important threat to the countrys status quo. That distinction belongs to the irreversible course set upon to return land and self-governance to Canadas native people. With potentially hundreds of independent governments to be established across the country, Canada is entering an era of immense social and political experimentation. Few deny that for the dismal plight of Canadas natives to end, changes must be made. As a people they suffer from the highest jobless, suicide, addiction and incarceration rates in the county. They constitute the majority in Vancouvers infamous Downtown Eastside, an armpit where chic Vancouver society has cast its poorest, sickest, and weakest to die in a spiral of addiction, prostitution, violence, and AIDS. The Downtown Eastside is a place where twenty women, nearly half of them native, disappeared without so much as a ho-hum from media, police, or Joe and Sally Punch-clock. Here, where native prostitutes are the majority and shooting up is the center of existence, HIV spreads among natives faster than among any other group. Establishing native self-government is not only a means to compensate natives for expropriating their land and other past injustices, it is an attempt to halt a tremendous human tragedy. Land is central to any form of native self government or compensation package. Reclaiming sovereign control of traditional native lands has long been a contentious issue in Canada, one that has at times led to armed standoffs. Many native groups, or bands, have adhered to a negotiation process that will, among other things, return small portions of their original lands to them. In the province of British Columbia, to take one example, that process is just now beginning to bear fruit, and with up to 50 native treaties to be signed over the next few years the province is entering an era of radical change. Although few citizens seem to notice that the treaty process holds the potential to re-shape the province and the nation, the real problem is that no one has a clue how fundamental, or rough, that change will be. In fact, indications are the country is walking a route to colossal and dangerous conflict. No Union Dues One native band in BC in the throes of a huge commercial development recently created a labor code that it claims supersedes federal labor legislation. The code, which the band began drafting when its employees had just unionized, bans strikes, lockouts, and union dues on the reserve. While union leaders say the band is "abusing the principle of self-government by trying to deny their employees basic labor rights", the band maintains that strikes and lockouts "would have the effect of dividing our community" and that union dues defy a section of the Indian Act that states the property of an Indian cannot be seized against his will. The federal Indian Affairs ministry has made it clear that the band has no legal authority to implement its labor code. But when asked what action would be taken if the band defied the ministry, an Indian Affairs spokeswoman replied, "Im not sure what the response would be." The band has ignored the ministry and enforced its new labor code. So far the federal government has done nothing but wonder aloud. This conflict, whose resolution quite possibly lies outside the current legal realm, is one example in hundreds where self-governments can and will test the limits and exceed the bounds of their authority in efforts to broaden their power. A process for resolving this and the conflicts to come remains frighteningly non-existent. An Indian band on the more populous coast of BC presents a different problem. As one of the first urban bands to negotiate a treaty settlement, the Tsawwassen First Nation has a population of non-native residents significantly larger than the 200 registered band members. Non-native residents of the reservation have no voting rights in band elections. The problem is how to provide natives with self-government while preserving the democratic rights of their non-native tenants. Tom Isaacs, the provinces chief treaty negotiator for the region, admits that he knows of no system in the world that balances
[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: NO COMMUNICATION
-Caveat Lector- NOTE: Aleksander Zograf (aka Sasa Rakezic), a cartoonist living in Serbia, has been witnessing the bombing of his hometown, Pancevo, by NATO. He has been staying in contact with the international alternative comics community by e-mail. Following is his latest report. From: "Sasa Rakezic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NO COMMUNICATION Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 22:51:14 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Status: Sasa Rakezic P.F. 163 26000 Pancevo Yugoslavia (Serbia) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] May 9th 1999 Hello friends! Last night, a main post office in Kragujevac, in Central Serbia, was hit by a NATO bomb, but it didn't explode. During the same night, another post office - in a town of Uzice, was completely destroyed by NATO projectiles, and in a second attack, the same bulding - which was already turned into ruins - was bombed once more. The whole area was left without phone connections. The same thing could happen here in my town as well, and it makes me sad just to think about the possibility that we could be cut off from our friends all over the world... By the way, I have found more funny NATO leaflets - they are so collectible! I already gathered an interesting collection. The newest one is with the target sign ( so, it seems that - eventually - it was adopted even by the NATO designers! ) and with the message:NO FUEL, NO POWER, NO TRADE, NO FREEDOM, NO FUTURE: MILOSEVIC. Milosevic's photo ( a rather small one) is also included. Could these leaflets, dropped (maybe?) from the same planes which are dropping bombs on the towns bellow, be the meaningful media for the communication with the Serbian people? Ironically, one of the small Tv stations here has aired "Mars Attacks" movie few weeks ago. One of the scenes includes Martians destroying the towns and people of the Earth, while at the same time there was a voice from the speaker saying (with "Martian" accent): "DON'T RUN AWAY! WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS! I REPEAT: DON'T RUN AWAY! WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS!!" This whole situation seemed strangelly familiar to what we are experiencing in this silly land of Serbia. Anyway, after most of the offices and the transmitters of the major Tv stations ( some of which were owned by a state, and some which were private ones) in Serbia were rocketed , in some parts of the counrty you can see only a couple of programs, aired by some small local transmitters, but in some parts there is no signal of any Tv station left. Instead, I heard that some people were able to receive the signal by some sort of NATO Tv program, in Serbo-Croat language, transmitted probably from the near-by countries. I wasn't able to watch any of it, but I can guess that most of the people here will not be quite delighted to watch the program with NATO trademark , after the domestic stations has been blown to pieces by the very same organization (even though most of the Serbian stations were mostly airing American movies and Tv series anyway. At the beginning of the bombing campaign, as I described, there were some attempts by local censors to exclude American movies and series from the Serbian media. But it lasted just few days or so ). It is obvious that war kills communication, and that people who are pointing the means of destruction at each other don't really want to establish a meaningful communication in the first place. I should say again, and again, that we are living in a savage world, hiding behind the happy face of the mass communication. We are still learning to talk to each otherAnd we almost forgot that it is a simple and natural thing to do. Bye bye Sasa DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HOFFMAN ON THE COLORADO MASSACRE/Abortion
-Caveat Lector- Interesting, and he makes some good points. What I definitely do not agree with is Hoffmans anti-abortion proselitizing. What is Hoffmans answer then to woman who want to have an abortion. Would he force them to have the baby and then give it up for adoption? What about crack babies and woman who are raped, do they have to gve birth too? It seems Hoffman has become indoctrinated himself with all the hype about abortion issues. In England and most other European countries there is no where near the kind of hatred and divisiveness on the abortion issue as there is in America. I wonder why? (kind of ironic really;anti-abortionists killing doctors who perform abortions)One other point which somebody on the list might be able to help me with is what my wife was telling me the other day. That more woman (and embryo's) died getting illegal abortions in 50' s and 60's America than the 1.5 approx million abortions that there are today. This could be media manipulating stats. Gavin. A-albionic Research Weekly Up-date--Addendum HOFFMAN ON THE COLORADO MASSACRE Hoffman's website: http://www.hoffman-info.com THE HOFFMAN WIRE, April 22, 1999 Michael A. Hoffman II, Editor === The Mirror World of Columbine Media Bypass Talk-show host Pat Shannan recently had Michael A. Hoffman II as a guest on his radio program, discussing Hoffman's new work, "Profiling the FBI's Unabom Charade." With regard to the Littleton, Colorado high school massacre, Mr. Shannan posed the following question-via e-mail: Dear Michael I understand that you predicted this Colorado tragedy. I may want to do a story with the Satanic tie-in with these Sodomites and several previous school shootings. What evidence exists of a CIA and MK-Ultra influence? Thanks, Pat HOFFMAN REPLIES: There is no evidence of a CIA or MK-Ultra influence. Most programming cues are now in our mass media culture itself. Watch Wesley Snipes in the gruesome and despicable 1998 film, "Blade" and Keanu Reeves in the current "Matrix," both blazing away in their trench coats. The Trench Coat Mafia was made in Hollywood, in spite of these films' do-gooder facades, which only fool adults who want to be fooled. The dark and bloody symbolism is paramount. The medium is the message. The best and brightest kids will not take New World Order bureaucratic regulation. Our centralized mega-schools have become immense factories not only of anti-white indoctrination, but of micro-management of young people's lives, preparing them for more of the same in the adult world. Public school students have little if any understanding of their hereditary, Common Law and Constitutional rights. They are increasingly herded like assembly-line automatons. The elite among them intuitively revolt. Once our people as a whole would have rebelled. It was a common pastime of the English people to hurl rocks at the royal carriage during the reign of George I (1714-1727). Bill Clinton would have been routinely stoned and spat upon by our ancestors. Unfortunately, disaffected youth today turn toward the Hegelian fake alternative: System-certified "rebels," the System's manufactured image of Hitler, System-distributed videos and films--most of which have implanted behavior cues for these elite kids to emulate and create the kind of mayhem, murder and suicide the System needs to build its police state. American forces are presently terror-bombing the Serbian people for "peace," and Americans have butchered 37 million unborn babies on the altar of convenience, in abortions. President Clinton rapes and abuses women like cattle, perjures himself and remains the beloved leader of the soft-spoken liberal humanists and feminists. America has become a pathological culture of violence against the innocent while a jaded populace of movie-goers and TV spectators are mesmerized by ever more deadening hyper-violence on the screen. The message of Oliver Stone's much maligned movie, "Natural Born Killers" (NBK), one of the few Hollywood films to critique and lampoon the culture of death, was that, in the face of killings like those in Colorado, the suposedly "shocked and saddened" TV networks gleefully market and sell the violence at a profit, just like they sell tampons and toilet paper. I discuss this phenomenon at length in my book, "Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare." Stone's NBK pointed out that the source of the violence is America's culture and the media that drives it. NBK concludes with a song by Leonard Cohen attacking perverted sex and abortion. I am not an Oliver Stone fan, but in this rare instance, he hit the media where it hurts. For this reason his film is deliberately stigmatized and falsified as the evil paradigm for future killers. The racist/Hitler angle: one of the members of the Colorado Trench Coat Mafia was a Hispanic girl named Alejandra who the media have now nicknamed
[CTRL] The Brain Song
-Caveat Lector- Well, you never know what a search on the ol' Internet will turn up. I started looking for info on just what besides exact calculation the left frontal lobe might govern, and found...the Brain Song (http://www2.umdnj.edu/~neuro/neuro98/st_aids/song.htm): Neuroscience '98 at RWJMS Course Director, Richard S. Nowakowski, Ph.D. (e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Department of Neuroscience and Cell Biology Robert Wood Johnson Medical School Spring, 1996 THE BRAIN SONG -- Dr. Nowakowski, This is an excerpt from a news group which may be useful for neuroanatomy. It's the parts of the brain set to the tune of 'Camptown Races.' It contains most of the larger structures from which the details can be fleshed out with the text book. This might be something useful for the neuromailer for all to enjoy/study from. Erik A. Boatman RWJMS Class of 1999 Newsgroups: alt.tv.animaniacs.pinky-brain Keywords: The Brain's Brain song. [The song and episode name is 'Brainstem!' Here we go...] P: And now...the parts of the Brain...presented by the Brain B: Yes! [sung to the tune of 'Camptown Races'] Neo-Cortex, Frontal Lobe P: Brainstem! Brainstem! B: Hippocampus, Neural Node Right Hemisphere Pons and Cortex Visual P: Brainstem! Brainstem! B: Sylvian Fissure Pineal Left Hemisphere Cerebellum Left, Cerebellum Right Synapse Hypothalamus Striatum Dendrite [Brain dances with tambourine] Axon Fibers, Matter Grey P: Brainstem! Brainstem! B: Central Tegmental Pathway Temporal Lobe White Core Matter, Forebrain, Skull P: Brainstem! Brainstem! B: Central Fissure, Cord Spinal Parietal Pia Mater Meningeal Vein Medulla Oblongata and Lobe Limbic Micro-Electrodes PB: The Brain! B: That oughta keep the little squirts happy [THE END] "I am not devoid of humor!"--Brain BRAINSTEM Lyrics by Tom Minton Sung to Camptown Races by Stephen Foster. Pinky: And now, the parts of the brain, performed by The Brain! Brain: Ye-e-s! Brain: Neo-cortex, frontal lobe Pinky: Brainstem! Brainstem! Brain: Hippocampus, neural node Right hemisphere. Brain: Pons and cortex visual Pinky: Brainstem! Brainstem! Left hemisphere. Brain: Cerebellum left! Cerebellum right! Synapse, hypothalamus Triaton, dendrite. Brain: Axon fibers, matter gray Pinky: Brainstem! Brainstem! Brain: Central tegmental pathway Temporal lobe. Brain: White core matter, forebrain, skull Pinky: Brainstem! Brainstem! Brain: Central fissure, cord spinal Parietal. Brain: Pia mater! Menengeal vein! Medulla oblongata and lobe limbic Micro-electrodes... Pinky: Naaarf! P+B : THE BRAIN!!! Brain: That ought to keep the little squirts happy. Ye-e-s! = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HOFFMAN ON THE COLORADO MASSACRE/Abortion
-Caveat Lector- Do movies reflect as the glass we see through but so darkl as Clinton saidwell let the idiot take off his sunglasses. The first time I heard Ronald Reagaon say "Just like Easy Rider", I about died.and then Dan Quayle said "Just like Hoosiers", both movies - I saw Hoosiers, and then saw Dan QuayleEasy Rider I missed. Even Quayle and Reagon were influenced by moviesnow how about these two kids, now killers, did they also see through the glass but darkleyremember Quayle getting so involved in Murphy Brown, which I also never watched, that he needed a reality check? I do not read fiction; but I see fiction. Somehow reading fiction is much more impressive. But when you are on drugs, and under a control, you cannot distinguish between fiction and non-fiction. All these dark glasses; I remember once, when I was downed with a drug compliments of the Columbus, Ohio Police and low degree Masons all upset with my work, and had the FBI following me around (hopefully they were not involved in the drugs).suddenly these people would be all around me at Democrat Meetings in the evening, wearing these horrible shiney sunglasses, which I could not bear to look at. Fortunately my Doctor (also masonic - and he let me know someone had been in my records) recognized the fact that the drug was he thought chloral hydrate...but does that make words jump off pages at you when you are trying to work and read? The friendly police (and a wife of one) also ransacked my house, and lo and behold - have you ever gotten zapped on a cup of tea? Something happened to those kids at Littleton; and I know what drugs can do to you. The one drug paralized by eyes, I could not move themmy head wracked with pain, and it felt like my brain was splitting in halffortunuately agian, my son was to pick me up, at high noon.and did...my 6 year old had pickedup the coke from which I drank, and was knocked out for 12 hours. This happened one half block from my homefor several days, I had flashbacksmy doctor (Daniel Bunner) coud do nothing for thisto this day I have difficulty believing something like this could happen. Later I was told that the drug was put into ice on a glass, etc., by the waitress paid to do same...later, this woman was found murdered having left townand on her person was the card of a lawyer, th one for whom I later worked, and whose office I sat when it blew up.and by what a small K Mart propane gas tank, much smaller than they would hve used in Littllleton. The key to psychology is do not identify with anything; yet, I know for fact that under drugs, you can identify with what you read.in particular, take another look at Manson and the BibleCharles Jesus Mansondo many people know that this man shot secret masonic signals up to the Judge in the case, which agitated him. Want to know why kids react? Look at the Chinese students; if that bunch were on drugs, they would have blown up the US Embassy by now.. In Littleton, there was a little too much relgion, and too much hatred.and too much of a certain drug, with a control. And, how easy it is to poison or drug a water system (look at the Legionairres Disease' - My Name is Legion) and look at the Contrails now that people are in some instances afraid.look at two kids, not imitating Hitler, but getting revenge because they obviously knew about the genocide which would be forthcoming...would they get the Jew again, or would it be the Christians...or maybe the Moslems. During the 60 period young blacks freaked out on drugs, Fred Ahmed Evans for instnce, murdere 4 policemen in Clevelandhe followed astrology and believed the white man was a blue eyed, blonde haired devil - they feared genocide. Halle Bopp in their work referred to Wacoconnected to Rick Strawcutter who was trying to save the farms of farmers from the banks foreclosingthe Militia - why are they up in arms? They all fear for the safety of their children, land, and farmers. Now look at the pigs in the Whitehousel.Warthogs, and that is just what they areClinton, Gore, Albright, Generl Clark, and Sheaare they still smirking today? Has not the wrath of God fallen upon their eviland thre is no other word for it than evil..now, I see through the glass but clearly, and had a glimpse many years ago what these people can do. You are what you read. The first thing you do, when they catch a killer is to first see what he reads, look whats on the computerin this, you see the man these were all children at Littletonthe slaughter of the innocents. And this is one murder, yet unsolved, that you will eventually track to the doors of the peacemakers with guns, whips, and hatred against humanity where now lay the Spear of Destinyabout to take aim. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting
[CTRL] Dutch Govt Confirms: Nerve Gas Samples to Israel
-Caveat Lector- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:28:58 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BIOWAR] Dutch govt confirms: nerve gas samples to Israel Source: Fox News http://www.foxnews.com/js_index.sml?content=/news/wires2/ Dutch government confirms lab provided nerve gas samples to Israel 10.42 a.m. ET (1443 GMT) April 27, 1999 THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) A Dutch laboratory provided samples of a nerve gas similar to that used in the deadly 1995 Tokyo subway attack to an Israeli research institute, the government confirmed Tuesday. The Netherlands Organization for Applied Scientific Research sent 20 milligrams of soman gas, similar to sarin, to the Israel Institute for Biological Research in Ness Ziona near Tel Aviv in 1996, economic affairs ministry spokesman Hans Jacobs said. The lab, which is licensed to produce and store nerve gases to help it develop protective measures against chemical weapons, had Dutch government clearance to export the sample to Israel. According to shipping documents, the gas was intended for use in Israeli medical research. In a letter to the Dutch parliament, Foreign Trade Minister Gerrit Ybema said the quantity of gas was so small that it would pose no health threat if released into the air. Ybema was reacting to questions raised in March by an opposition lawmaker after a Dutch television program exposed the shipment. Last year, Israel confirmed that raw materials used in the manufacture of sarin were aboard an El Al cargo plane that crashed into an Amsterdam apartment block in 1992, killing 43 people. The chemicals, being transported to the Ness Ziona research center from a producer in the United States, were to be used to test filters, Israel said. © 1999, News America Digital Publishing, Inc. d/b/a Fox News Online. *** BIOWAR-L Biowar/Bioterrorism/Toxins Mailing List To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text: unsubscribe BIOWAR-L or subscribe BIOWAR-L. Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Archive: http://www.sonic.net/~west/digest.htm. BIOWAR Web site: http://www.sonic.net/~west/biowar.htm. -Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA Official Lauder Testimony on WMD Proliferation
-Caveat Lector- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:19:01 -0400 From: Dan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BIOWAR] CIA Offical Lauder Testimony on WMD Proliferation http://www.usia.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/latestf=99042901.pltt=/products/washfile/newsitem.shtml - - 29 April 1999 TEXT: CIA OFFICIAL LAUDER TESTIMONY ON WMD PROLIFERATION (Says over 50 states of proliferation concern to U.S.) (4190) Washington -- A senior CIA official says that there are "well over 50 states that are of proliferation concern as suppliers, conduits, or potential proliferants" of weapons of mass destruction (WMD). Special Assistant to the Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) for Nonproliferation John Lauder says "the security of Russian WMD materials, increased cooperation among rogue states, more effective efforts by proliferants to conceal illicit activities, and growing interest by terrorists in acquiring WMD capabilities" are the main proliferation concerns of the Intelligence Community. In testimony before the Commission to Assess the Organization of the Federal Government to Combat the Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction April 29, Lauder said these concerns are exacerbated by the increasing "brain drain" -- in which scientists with transferable know-how continue to leave the former Soviet Union, some potentially for destinations of proliferation concern -- and by the fact that some nuclear supplier states are pursuing nuclear and dual-use trade -- even with non-NPT and "rogue" states. The following is the text of Lauder's prepared statement: (begin text) Thank you Messrs. Chairmen and members of the Commission. I welcome being here today to help inform and support the work of this Commission. We in the nonproliferation intelligence community look forward to your recommendations in helping us deal with the formidable challenges that the United States Government faces in seeking to anticipate, assess, counter, and even roll back the spread of weapons of mass destruction (WMD). Conveying to you a full understanding of both the threats and what we in the Intelligence Community are doing to combat those threats are best dealt with in the closed sessions of the Commission. There are some observations and trends, however, that I can highlight in this unclassified setting. I have provided a Statement for the Record, and with your permission I will now draw from it to make some key points. Let me say first that I particularly welcome being here with Neil Gallagher of the FBI. Also here to help answer the Commission's questions is (name withheld) of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Other experts are in the room and we will ask them to identify themselves if we need to call on them to help during the questioning. The interagency team that all of us represent is a symbol of the type of cooperation that we have been fostering and indeed that is essential to providing the intelligence that this country needs to understand and address the proliferation challenge. DCI George Tenet has emphasized in his appearances before Congress that no issue better illustrates the new challenges, complexities, and uncertainties that we in the Intelligence Community face than the proliferation of WMD and their delivery means. Over the past year, we have witnessed the nuclear tests in South Asia, continued concerns about Iraq's WMD programs, broader availability of technologies relevant to biological and chemical warfare, and accelerated missile development in Iran, North Korea, and -- most recently -- in Pakistan and India. Particularly worrisome to the Intelligence Community is the security of Russian WMD materials, increased cooperation among rogue states, more effective efforts by proliferants to conceal illicit activities, and growing interest by terrorists in acquiring WMD capabilities. US intelligence is increasing its emphasis and resources on many of these issues, but there is a continued and growing risk of surprise. We appropriately focus much of our intelligence collection and analysis on some ten states, but even concerning these states, there are important gaps in our knowledge. Moreover, we have identified well over 50 states that are of proliferation concern as suppliers, conduits, or potential proliferants. Our analytical and collection coverage against most of these states is stretched, and many of the trends seen, such as the possibility of shortcuts to acquiring fissile material and increased denial and deception activities, make it harder to track some key developments, even in the states of greatest intelligence focus. Supply Looking at the supply-side first: Russian and Chinese assistance to proliferant countries has merited particular attention for several years. Last year, Russia announced new controls on transfers of missile-related technology. There were some positive sips in Russia's performance early last year but, unfortunately, there has not been a sustained improvement.
Re: [CTRL] The Brain Song
-Caveat Lector- Yes ago, may in the 30 period, thre was a man named Uncle Don, who used to read the funny papers, as they called them then, to the kids.. Every Sunday, innocent little children would listen to Uncle Don faithfully. Then one morning, reality hit.Uncle Don read his funnies, and then you heard" "Are we off - are we off.Well, that ought to take care of the little bastards? So you see the line from the "Brain's" song, is really not that original.but what the intent is, is something else... Doo Dah.An old Civil War Song was used by spies many a time, was it not - but how many people know that. Whoever the Brain is, he is really rather stupid for showing his hand. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Aspartame Causes
-Caveat Lector- Exert from http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/chem.htm These are from a data base that I am doing for my web site. I have seen this post shot down as a hoax, so I offer this links in rebuttal of some that would say Aspartame is not hazardous and support of this post. Nancy Markel was NOT the original author, but overall the post is on track. Another point is that Aspartame is suppose to Mimic MS ect., I personally am not interested in something that even Mimics diseases such as this post describes! Please remember that much of the research that is out there (and that some sites cite - FDA included) saying that Aspartame is NOT hazardous comes from the very company that makes Aspartame. From these links you wonder how anyone is capable of having nutritious food, and think of the developing bodies and brains of children. These will allow you to research on your own. Lloyd Miller wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Sean Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 11:48 PM Subject: [afs] HEAL: Aspartame - Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:43:51 -0800 From: darryl avec une d [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: aspartame ubject: FYI Subject: URGENT: World Conference Warned about Aspartame Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:39:00 EST WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE and the MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS FOUNDATION FDA ISSUING FOR COLLUSION WITH MONSANTO Article written by Nancy Markle (1120197) I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on "ASPARTAME marketed as 'NutraSweet', 'Equal', and 'Spoonful"'. In the keynote address by the EPA, they announced that there was an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus, and they did not understand what toxin was causing this to be rampant across the United States. I explained that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject. When the temperature of Aspartame exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME coverts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. (Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants). The methanol toxicity mimics multiple sclerosis; thus people were being diagnosed with having multiple sclerosis in error. The multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, where methanol toxicity is. In the case of systemic lupus, we are finding it has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers. Also, with methanol toxicity, the victims usually drink three to four 12 oz. Cans of them per day, some even more. In the cases of systemic lupus, which is triggered by ASPARTAME, the victim usually does not know that the aspartame is the culprit. The victim continues its use aggravating the lupus to such a degree, that sometimes it becomes life threatening. When we get people off the aspartame, those with systemic lupus usually become asymptomatic. Unfortunately, we can not reverse this disease. On the other hand, in the case of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, (when in reality, the disease is methanol toxicity), most of the symptoms disappear. We have seen cases where their vision has returned and even their hearing has returned. This also applies to cases of tinnitus. During a lecture I said "If you are using ASPARTAME (NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc.), and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches, tinnitus, joint pain, depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss-you probably have ASPARTAME DISEASE!" People were jumping up during the lecture saying, "I've got this, is it reversible?" It is rampant. Some of the speakers at my lecture even were suffering from these symptoms. In one lecture attended by the Ambassador of Uganda, he told us that their sugar industry is adding aspartame! He continued by saying that one of the industry leader's son could no longer walk due in part by product usage! We have a very serious problem. Even a stranger came up to Dr. Espisto (one of my speakers) and myself and said, "Could you tell me why so many people seem to be coming down with MS?" During a visit to a hospice, a nurse said that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence. Here is the problem. There were Congressional Hearings when aspartame was included in 100 different products. Since this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, but to no avail. Nothing as been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets. Now there are over 5,000 products containing this chemical, and the PATENT HAS EXPIRED! At the time of
Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]
-Caveat Lector- Okay Nuerve and E Mael..that's good boys. Now Moo Moo is going to take nap (but I am a light sleeper, remember that). Moo Moo DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HOFFMAN and Cups of Tea
-Caveat Lector- The friendly police (and a wife of one) also ransacked my house, and lo and behold - have you ever gotten zapped on a cup of tea? Someone claiming to be working with MI5 attempted to end my career in music - saying that if I didn't stop playing with musicians the group would have an accident. This person claimed to have a firearm, work for MI5 and regularly required me to drink doctored cups of tea. I was there attempting to find out what - if anything - I had done wrong, and was prepared to expose myself to nosebleeds and splitting headaches to find out. I had had a temporary interest in the Scottish Knights Templar, and I know now that my sister was in trouble with the United Nations for having exposed sleaze. Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990510a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # FBI SUPPRESSED LIKELY CAUSE OF TWA 800 CRASH FOR MONTHS, SENATOR SAYS. Within six months of the crash of TWA Flight 800 in July 1996, investigators from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms had decided that mechanical failure, not terrorism, likely brought down the New York-to-Paris flight. But it wasn't until 10 months later that the FBI withdrew from the case, a formal admission that the plane wasn't brought down by a criminal act, according to U.S. Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa). Senate subcommittee will hold hearings Monday: http://cnn.com/US/9905/09/twa.800.report/index.html : Would you rather conspire to 1) suppress the existence of a conspiracy, 2) suppress the nonexistence of a conspiracy, 3) promote a nonexistent conspiracy, 4) expose your own conspiracy of type (1),(2) or (3)? For such meta-conspiring, would you rather be paid, elected, appointed, immortalized, lobotomized, implanted, mummified, transmogrified? Is good sex sufficient? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** China sees threat in secret sect. BEIJING (AP) - Shocked by throngs of meditating protesters on their front door, Chinese leaders are preparing a methodical campaign to discredit and rein in the martial arts sect they now see as a threat to Communist Party power. President Jiang Zemin has formed a high-level task force to monitor the group, and gov't agents have started taking names and infiltrating the sect. The swift preparations underscore how rattled senior leaders were by the sudden sight of thousands of silent practitioners of Falun Gong, the Wheel of Law, outside party HQ on April 25. All at once, the group was transformed from an obscure school of Yoga-like exercises and meditation into a challenge to the communist hold on China's future. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559462955-efc : Would you rather conspire to overthrow a gov't, a sect, a major religion, an economic system, an artform, a sport? Have you overthrown/undermined any lately? Have you taken over a political party, a fraternity, an industry? Have you diverted any existing conspiracies? Which? Was it hard, slow, fun? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # RUMORS OF MOBILE PHONE VIRUS PANICS LEBANESE. The virus never hit, but the system crashed anyway. A fast-traveling rumor that the Chernobyl computer virus would wreak havoc on cellular phones in Lebanon on Saturday tangled telephone lines and briefly shut down Lebanon's telephone network. Lebanese flipped off their mobiles, picked up traditional telephones to warn friends and family to do the same. The panic in this cellular-loving country over- loaded the network, disrupting service for a few minutes. Parliament may investigate: http://cnn.com/TECH/science/9905/09/lebanon.cell.hoax.ap/ : Do you panic over rumors? Is your panic worse than the rumored event? What are your favorite rumors, non-rumors, events, non-events, facts, not-facts? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Hollywood to grovel? LOS ANGELES (AP) Pres. Clinton says Monday's summit on youth violence is about finding answers, not assigning blame. But partic- ipants from the entertainment biz will be feeling more pressure than anyone else on the guest list, particularly since the gun lobby wasn't invited; they'll be met with growing calls for gov't intervention. Dispute whether movies, music video games shape a culture of violence among young people: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559484231-0ab *** Also: Reno, Rockers fight teen violence. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559467900-c3d : Does entertainment program you to kill? Can a kill-crazy gov't deprogram you, or will it just assign you to other targets? Would you rather shootup/ bomb schools in the US, Serbia, Iraq, Eire, Borneo, Burundi, Zeta Reticula? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Khmer Rouge torturer found - now a "born-again" Christian, praise Jesus! PHNOM PENH, Cambodia (AP) An admitted Khmer Rouge mass murderer was found by Cambodian security forces and is now under government protection. Kaing Khek Iev, the Khmer Rouge prison chief known as Duch, has said he is ready to go on trial and testify about the movement's genocidal policies. Taste blood: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559485907-f5b : Do politics/economics/faith program you to kill? Can a kill-crazy church deprogram you, or will it just assign you to other targets? Would you rather kill atheists, Xians, Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists, Pagans, Jews, Sikhs, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Microsoft plans virtual clinic. REDMOND, Wash. (AP) Jim Pittman woke one morning with a strong squeezing sensation in his chest. Fearing the worst, the 42-year-old Microserf wasted no time driving 10 miles to his doctor's office only to be
[CTRL] [22] The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Strange Death of FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT A History of the Roosevelt-Delano Dynasty America's Royal Family Emanuael M. Josephson©1948 CHEDNEY PRESS 127 East 69th Street New York 21, N. Y. --[22]-- CHAPTER XXII F.D.R.'S NEW DEAL FOR ROCKEFELLER EMPIRE SAUDI ARABIA, PALESTINE AND THE "TRUMAN PLAN" Through President Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal and his bright new World War II, the Dynasty gained many victories for the Rockefeller Empire. The greatest prize of all was the rich oil fields of the Near East, especially Saudi Arabia. All of the territory that lies between the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea, the Black and Caspian Seas at the North, the Mediterranean Sea at the West and the Persian Gulf at the East, is a vast oil basin. Large concessions in the southern part of this region had been granted between 1935 and 1937 to British interests headed by Sir W. Fraser and C. S. Gulbenkian and were turned over to a series of companies controlled by them including Petroleum Concessions Ltd., Petroleum Development (Oman and Dhofar) Ltd., Petroleum Development (Palestine) Ltd., Petroleum Development (Qatar) Ltd., Petroleum Development (Trans-jordan) Ltd., Petroleum Development (Trucial Coast) Ltd., and Petroleum Development (Western Arabia) Ltd. Hitler's war on England had gravely endangered these concessions. Our entry into the war had rescued them and had assured the Rockefeller dominated Aramco the right to develop Saudi Arabian oil for Standard Oil of California's and Texas Company's joint venture, Cal-Tex. When King Ibn Saud demanded royalty payments amounting to $30,000,000, Cal-Tex employed James A. Moffett, Vice-President of Standard Oil of New Jersey who had been appointed by Roosevelt to the post of Housing Administrator, to use his influence to get the Government to pay for holding the concession. Moffett had no difficulty in arranging this "New Deal" for the Rockefeller interests. For his success he alleged in lawsuits which he brought against the Companies in 1947, he was promised a total commission of over $8,000,000. This was one of his rewards for contributing to the Georgia Warm. Springs Foundation. The $30,000,000 which the United States Treasury gave Ibn Saud for the support of himself and his 450 wives and their progeny, to maintain the RockefellerStandard Oil interests in his good graces, cost the American people twenty cents a head. In addition King Ibn Saud got a "loan" of $25,000,000 of taxpayers' money from the Export-Import Bank to build a railroad from his capitol across the desert to his summer palace at Rayadh, and numerous gifts from the American taxpayers ranging from multi-million dollar airplanes to sight-seeing tours to the United States for himself, his many princes, and their numerous retinues. For the millions of taxpayers' money poured into his lap by the United States, King Ibn Saud did offer to them in return, a very suggestive, and under the circumstances, a premonitory and appropriate token gift. He presented America's Queen Eleanor (Roosevelt) with a jewel becrusted, solid gold crown. Eleanor accepted this crown with peculiar alacrity, but it was given little publicity. After they secured payment for their concession by the United States Treasury, the Rockefeller Empire then ordered their New Deal agents in 1941 to begin the construction for them of a pipe line in Saudi Arabia at the expense of the American taxpayer. This required the diversion of pipe sorely needed for the war effort and for the heating of homes on the Eastern seaboard that were without fuel and beat. Though it was frankly stated by the oil interests that the pipeline in Saudi Arabia could not play any part in the war and would not be completed until five years after the war, pipe was to be diverted from the war effort at top priorities and shipped. A bill was introduced in Congress appropriating $165,000,000 for this Rockefeller-Standard Oil chore. The outcry against the bill was so great that it was dropped. In the following year President Roosevelt gave the Rockefeller interests the $165,000,000 out of special, secret appropriations given him by Congress for use in the war effort, for which he was required to render no accounts. It was used for surveys and preparatory work for the pipeline. In addition the United States Army was assigned to do part of the task and to build an airfield and base at Dhahran, the construction of which by soldier labor battallions is still progressing. Under the contract with Ibn Saud, the base will have to be turned over to the Saudi Arabia in February, 1949, shortly after its completion at the cost of more than six millions to the United States taxpayers. Two drafted United States soldiers who were kept in the service after the termination of the war to labor on the fields protested to Congressman Phillip J. Philbin who denounced this "quasi-private" undertaking for the Rockefeller Empire at the cost of the American
[CTRL] Investigators Debate Anthrax Vaccine's Safety
-Caveat Lector- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:19:10 -0400 From: Dan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BIOWAR] Investigators debate anthrax vaccine's safety http://www.nando.com/noframes/story/0,2107,43623-70344-509455-0,00.html - - Investigators debate anthrax vaccine's safety Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press By LAURA MYERS WASHINGTON (April 29, 1999 3:20 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - Congressional investigators questioned the long-term effects of an anthrax vaccine given to America's armed forces despite government assurances Thursday that U.S. troops are being protected, not harmed by the shots. Skeptical lawmakers suggested the Defense Department shouldn't continue mandating anthrax vaccinations until further studies ensure there won't be health problems later. "Are we using our service men and women as guinea pigs?" asked Rep. John Mica, R-Fla., a member of a House Government Reform Committee panel that held a hearing on the vaccine. The General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of Congress, found no data on long-term effects of the vaccine. Kwai Chan, a GAO official, said federal health and drug safety officials have only looked at whether the vaccine appears to protect people from anthrax and whether there were any immediate adverse reactions to inoculation. "The long-term safety of the vaccine has not yet been studied. Therefore one cannot conclude there are no long-term adverse effects," Chan told lawmakers. Since its introduction three decades ago to protect mill and textile workers, Chan said there have been no reports of fatalities or major illnesses caused by the vaccine. Still, some of the 150,000 Gulf War veterans who received the vaccine suspect it may be a factor in their mysterious maladies, including fatigue, headaches and nerve disorders. Defense Secretary William Cohen last year ordered all 2.4 million active duty and reserve troops to get the anthrax vaccine as protection against biological warfare. More than 220,000 service members have been immunized so far, the Pentagon said, with 42 reporting adverse effects - seven serious enough to be hospitalized or take a sick day. All recovered from complaints including soreness, rashes, headaches and fevers, U.S. officials said. Between 100 and 200 service members have refused the vaccine, according to Pentagon estimates. Those who reject the shots can be dismissed for refusing a direct order. Anthrax has never been used in combat, but the Pentagon fears Iraq, North Korea and other countries - or terrorist groups - might try. Anthrax is a naturally occurring bacteria found in domesticated animals; it can be produced as dry spores that, when inhaled, cause death within a few days. The Food and Drug Administration licensed the vaccine in 1970 based on animal studies and on the experience of how well the vaccine worked for those inoculated since the 1950s. It is considered 92.5 percent effective, early studies showed. Rep. Janice Schakowsky, D-Ill., said she was concerned there were no studies showing how well the vaccine protects against inhaling anthrax spores in a warfare or terrorism scenario. Instead, experience focuses on subcutaneous infection. "What we don't know is just so overwhelming," she said. Katherine Zoon, an FDA official, said federal authorities have received 101 complaints of adverse effects from the anthrax vaccine since 1990, only 14 of them serious. "We believe the anthrax vaccine is a safe and effective vaccine for the prevention of anthrax disease," she said. Brig. Gen. Eddie Cain, head of the Pentagon's biological defense program, called the anthrax vaccine a "key element" of the military's modern force protection program. - -- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is NY City Ready For Unconventional Terror?
-Caveat Lector- Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:17:55 -0400 From: Dan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BIOWAR] Is New York City ready for unconventional terror? http://wire.nj.com/cgi-bin/nj_nview.pl?/home1/wire/AP/Stream-Parsed/JERSEY_NEWS/j0172_PM_NY--UnconventionalTer - - Is New York City ready for unconventional terror? By BETH GARDINER The Associated Press 05/03/99 2:23 AM Eastern NEW YORK (AP) -- As terrorists' arsenals grow ever more sophisticated, New York City is quietly preparing for a biological or chemical attack - -- but emphasizing that the chance of one happening is remote. Emergency officials are monitoring hospitals to spot any waves of sickness that could indicate a sudden release of germs, working with drug companies to ensure medicines are available and training doctors, paramedics and police on unconventional terrorism. Experts say New York -- frightened into vigilance by the 1993 World Trade Center bombing -- is ahead of the nation in preparing for 21st century terror. Three phony anthrax threats recently reminded the city of its vulnerability, but experts believe most terrorists still lack the technology to execute a major chemical or biological attack. "Near term, the biggest threat from terrorist groups is still bombs and guns," said Jerry Hauer, who as director of the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management heads the city's efforts to prepare for unconventional terrorism. Within the next few years, though, the picture could change. "There is evidence of rising interest in chemical and biological terrorism, and rising capabilities and thus rising risk," said Brad Roberts, who studies weapons of mass destruction at the Institute for Defense Analysis in Alexandria, Va. "We're still just trying to figure out what kind of a problem it is. Until you figure that out, you really can't know what you're supposed to be doing." Questions about the city's preparedness were raised in February, when a female activist who received a phony anthrax threat said police who hurried to help did not know what to do. "There was a serious response, but there was also some serious confusion," said Galen Sherwin, head of the city's chapter of the National Organization for Women. She called 911 after opening an envelope filled with powder described in an accompanying letter as anthrax spores. She worried authorities made two lapses in their response that could have allowed the germs to spread if they had been real. First, she said, an operator told her to wait for police in the building's lobby, where she was in contact with more people than had she stayed in her office. Then officers failed to isolate her for 20 minutes after they arrived. "They just have to take this as a warning that there has to be better training on this at every level," she said. Hauer dismissed Sherwin's criticism, saying anthrax is not as easily transmitted as she believed. But police Chief William Morange, commanding officer of the department's special operations division, conceded that there might have been flaws in the response. "That's something that we have to look at, to figure out why," he said. "Criticism is how you have to learn. ... I will look at it." The day after NOW was threatened, an East Side women's clinic got a similar letter, and a phoned-in anthrax threat forced police to close Central Park for several hours last week. The chances of a massive, citywide chemical or germ attack are slim, but some experts say terrorists probably have the technology to create smaller-scale havoc like the 1995 sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway, which killed 12 people and sickened thousands. "To me, it's a more likely scenario than somebody spreading anthrax over ... all of southern Manhattan," said Jessica Stern, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington, D.C., who wrote a book about terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. Unconventional terrorism is particularly frightening to many people because it involves a lot of unknowns, she said. "We can see that we're extremely vulnerable, but we don't know that much about the adversary," she said. Biological and chemical attacks are "invisible, mysterious, ... poorly understood by scientists. This sort of hits all the wrong buttons." As with old-fashioned terrorism, the best strategy for dealing with biological and gas attacks is to find would-be terrorists before they strike, said FBI spokesman Joe Valiquette. Law enforcement agencies like the FBI and the New York Police Department routinely monitor threats of high-tech terror, but Valiquette said it's impossible to head off every one. "Everything is a symbol in New York, and there aren't the resources to protect everything," he said. "Nothing's ever going to be foolproof." Many fear New York's position as the nation's largest city and its financial and media center could make it a very enticing target, although experts say attacks like the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing prove it's hard
[CTRL] A WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY TO WIPE A BILLION+ LIVES ?
http://torpedoes.enemy.org/strafe-gsm A WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY TO WIPE A BILLION+ LIVES ? GSM CELLFONES: A WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY TO ERADICATE AT LEAST A BILLION HUMAN LIVES ? TECHNOCRAT TYRANS´ DREAMS OF WORLD DOMINATION THROUGH SELECTIVE GENOCIDE ? one can ask why nothing is being done against the exponential growth of gsm cellfones while studies that proof its harmfulness multiply. it used to be an easy answer to give: "because there is too much money at stake". i start to believe the situation is a bit more intricate. there is an ongoing problem nowadays: overpopulation, and its obvious trailing pollution which is consuming the planet´s ressources. because worldwide, there are too many people too selfish to accept state birth control, and because killing a large number of people is an evil process, i suspect technocrat tyrans have set up the "portable fones" network, aka gsm, a ´revolutinary´ communications medium. gsm fones implant a brain or nervous cancer to its regular user in less than 10 years. before 51% of the people worldwide notice it, hundreds of millions will die. the same kind of suspicions already have risen by conspiracy theorists about aids or the madcow disease, and there is no smoke without fire. in TESLABEL info files, one can read the following: "teslabel coordination sadly notices numerous disinformation manoeuvers and dilatory processes inciting political leaders to idle about legislating over health protection and concrete prevention and caution measures. we are, doubtlessly, haunted by recent experiences which were similar and desastrous, such as the contaminated blood, aids, minors silicose, asbestos, amonst other sagas... and more recently of the possible transmission of the madcow disease (esb) to the human being. in all these cases, like currently about magnetic fields, they have first denied, beaten about the bush, they have then asserted to control and damp down the problems, they have then got to admit, while keeping on expressing doubts about the reports credibility." if this is obviously correct if you consider gsm sellers care only about their money and not at all about people´s health, it´s even more clear if it´s part of a worldwide program to eradicate more than a billion lives, which gsm fones producers may not be aware of either. ethh 2.6.x key id fp: 7579B421 7D 29 B3 3A CB 2D 42 B1 DE F3 19 D6 18 F6 C5 55 http://torpedoes.enemy.org GSM=DUTROUX;GSM-CANCER;PROXIMUSMOBISTAR ASSASSINS
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990510c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Thai monk defrocked by colleagues. BANGKOK (AP) More than 5000 Buddhist monks held a ceremony to defrock a colleague in absentia for breaking rules by owning land and distorting the teachings of Buddha. Sunday's defrocking ceremony, which took place at a temple in a northern suburb of Bangkok, was aimed at Phra Dhammachayo, abbot of the nearby Wat Dhammakaya temple. Last week the Supreme Patriarch, the country's highest Buddhist monk, wrote that any monk guilty of the violations Phra Dhammachayo had committed must be defrocked. The abbot owns lands and companies, which under clergy rules should be owned instead by the temple. He also has claimed to have performed miracles. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559490640-460 : Does defrocking hurt? Was it a nice frock? Can the abbot just start a new sect with whatever rules he wants? Would you join that sect? Want a bribe? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Bubonic plague confirmed in Namibia. WINDHOEK (AP) - Medical authorities confirmed an outbreak of the bubonic plague in Namibia's populous north-central region. Bubonic plague, also known as the Black Death, killed an estimated 25 million people, 1/3 of Europe between 1346 and 1351. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559495406-991 : What's your favorite plague? War, famine - what's the fourth horseman? @ GSM CELLFONES: A WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY TO ERADICATE AT LEAST A BILLION HUMAN LIVES ? TECHNOCRAT TYRANS´ DREAMS OF WORLD DOMINATION THROUGH SELECTIVE GENOCIDE ? http://torpedoes.enemy.org/strafe-gsm : Cellphone usage brain damage - think of it as evolution in action, eh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # IRIDIUM: EDSELS IN THE SKY? One of the world's most indebted companies, Iridium is struggling to find customers. If the satellite telephone outfit doesn't find a couple hundred thousand in a hurry, it could be terminal. www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/business/story/19522.html # SATELLITES FOR SALE, BARELY USED. There are still lots of ways for Iridium to make money on its US$3 billion satellite network. Some humble suggestions www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/business/story/19525.html : D'ya wanna buy some satellites? What would you do with them? Go into the mind-control business, maybe? Lease space to Reptilioids, Republicans, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Slow delivery for Buddha birthplace project. (BBC) Plans to turn Buddha's native village into an international centre of pilgrimage have been hampered by political uncertainty and a lack of money. No big bucks for boffo Buddha: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_34/340402.stm : Should the founder of your belief system be exploited for ritual worship and/or marketing? Would you hire top consultants to do the job right? Who? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # FBI criticized over flight 800 probe - "hindered the investigation": http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559496230-4b1 # White House opens violence session - "it's all your fault": http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559495843-683 # SPYING ON THE SPIES - Euro Parliament investigates NSA's Echelon net: http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/politics/story/19602.html # US scientist 'leaked radar secrets' to China - submarine-tracking tech: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_34/340146.stm # COMPAQ ADDS SECURITY TO HANDHELD - built-in smartcard reader: http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/technology/story/19598.html @ The 13th Illuminati Bloodline: aol://5863:126/alt.mindcontrol:40426 @ Satan's Lair on Morton Street: aol://5863:126/alt.mindcontrol:40538 @ MIND CONTROL OUT OF CONTROL: http://www.leadingedgenews.com/cathyo.html @ Royal, Reptilioid, Hitler blood: www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/coevolution.html @ Old UFO photos: http://www.theyknow.com/contributions/rob/1950-ufo.html # SNIFFING OUT PHEROMONES - scent less important than previously thought? www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/19576.html # Companies seek chip implants to control staff - BigBro on the inside: http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html?2517669 # THE PHONE ON A CHIP - have one implanted into your skull tomorrow: www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/19590.html @ The Chess Lab - 2 million games online: http://www.chesslab.com/ @ Talk among yourselves, anonymously: www.speech.free-online.co.uk @ King Tutankhamen's tomb: http://guardians.net/egypt/tut1.htm @ The Encyclopedia Smithsonian: http://www.si.edu/resource/faq/start.htm @ Lewis Clark hit the road: http://www.lewisandclarktrail.com/ @ United Nations - Division for Sustainable
[CTRL] Omnology.com --- Know-It-All
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.omnology.com/om-knowitall.html A HREF="http://www.omnology.com/om-knowitall.html"Omnology.com --- Know-It-All /A - Remember what Marx said about religion? "The opiate of the masses." Or something like that. One day I found the quote and I put it on my website. Then, while I was reading a book about evacuations, I found a few good paragraphs about Bhopal and Three Mile Island. I put those on the website, too. I continued to add excerpts from books and magazines and newspapers. By the time I had thirty entries on a single web page, it was taking too long to load. So I started a new page. As this project snowballed, I added an index, grouped by topic. I think you'll find a lot of useful information here. Most of it is political, because that's what I spend most of my time reading. If you don't like to read text on the computer screen, just print the pages. Send me e-mail and tell me what you think. The Index links to everything so far, organized by topic What's New? Nine Practices of a Destructive Cult The US Reaction to Genocide in Rwanda Fighting Democracy in Vietnam Chapter One: Fighting democracy in Chile. The School of the Americas. The effect of the Reagan budgets. Covering up massacres in el Salvador. East Timor. The war on poverty. Three Mile Island. Bhopal. The National Reconnaissance Office. Iran-contra. Rush Limbaugh. Selling cigarettes to kids. Prisons. Raising your taxes. Chapter Two: Operation Greenback. Tobacco companies. The end of welfare. The United Nations. Attacking Iraq (again). The erosion of the minimum wage. Corporate welfare. The massacre at el Mozote. Reagan versus the Reds. The class war. Quotes from Marx. Hours spent watching television. COINTELPRO. East Timor. Fred Hampton. Chapter Three: The Second Amendment. George Bush and Iran-contra. Banks in 1982. Darwin's theory of natural selection. Clinton bombs Baghdad. Team B. East Timor. The Black Budget. COINTELPRO. Fighting democracy in Vietnam. Belief in God. Intensive probation and arrests for violent juvenile crimes. Genocide in Rwanda. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [5] Revelations of an International Spy
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Revelations of an International Spy I. T. T. Lincoln Robert M. McBride Company©1916 New York --[5]-- CHAPTER V AN ABYSSINIAN INTRIGUE BEFORE, however, pursuing the intrigues of the Triple Entente, I must deal with an international matter which took place between 1903-06 and which is but additional proof of the brutal selfishness and unscrupulous plottings of Downing Street. I have related in the previous chapter that I made the acquaintance of a Herr Rosenkranz in Copenhagen during 1906, and that in September I again met him in Berlin, where I was spending ten days. Both of us are partizans of a glass of genuine Rhine or Moselle and as we sat in the Garden of the Kaiser-Keller in Friedrichstrasse, discussing past adventures in international 'politics, Rosenkranz related to me the story of the Abyssinian intrigue, without disclosing his part in ferreting out the facts. I was very much interested in his narrative and even more in the documents he showed me next day. He was good enough to make me a present of some of them, which I am keeping among my collection of interesting curios of diplomatic espionage. He was also good enough to give me some unique photographs he had taken himself of the Emperor Menelik in his full "canonicals" and also of M. Ilg his "Chamberlain," the members of the Austrian Commercial Embassy and the cuirassiers of the German Expedition. Abyssinia, a country of great natural wealth and of strategical importance, drew early the attention of some of the European Powers. In 1805, Great Britain sent a mission under Lord Valentia, to Abyssinia to conclude an alliance with Abyssinia and to obtain a port on the Red Sea, in case France should secure Egypt by dividing up the Turkish Empire with Russia. During 1838 and 1848, Northern Abyssinia was divided into two camps; the one, Amhara and Ras Ali, under Protestant British; the other, Tigre and Ulre, under Roman Catholic French influence. The latent hostility between the two factions threatened to develop into a religious war. In April 13, 1868, Negus Theodore died; he was mysteriously killed,'[1][ 1. Downing Street can explain how and why.] and Menelik gained in power, defeating Ras Bareya of Tigre, the Ras of Amhara, and Tekla Giorgis, with help of British rifles and guns presented to him by the British Government. In 1870 an Italian company bought of the local Sultan Assab a port near the southern entrance of the Red Sea and, after adding to it more land by purchase, it was bought out by the Italian Government in 1882. Soon afterwards Count Pietro Antonelli was sent to Shoa to improve by treaties with Menelik and the Sultan of Aussa the prospects of an Italian colony. In January, 1885, Italians occupied Beilul, a port in the north of Assab Bay; some time later they took Massowa, an Egyptian port. This was strongly resented by Abyssinia, as they had treaties with Britain and Egypt for free transit of goods through this port. Up to 1887, Italy was systematically occupying the country round their ports and placing a large number of troops. In January of this year the Italian General Gene refused to withdraw his troops, after which refusal the Abyssinians attacked a detachment of 500 Italians, killing nearly 400 at Dozali. Great Britain sent a mission under Sir Gerald Portal to try and mediate between the Italians and Abyssinians, but he failed utterly and returned after many hardships in Egypt. Abyssinia has no port of her own. It is enclosed in the west by Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, in the east by British Somaliland, in the south also by English possession, while in the north by French and Italian Somaliland (Eurytrear). Great Britain knew how to secure the imports and exports of Abyssinia. The port from which the domination of Abyssinia's trade and commerce is carried out is Aden, almost opposite Djibuti, the French port of Abyssinia. There are bi-weekly steamers from Aden to Djibuti. At the time under review no steamer of any European or any other country had called at Djibutithis was achieved by England's consistent and perpetual opposition and intrigue against the establishment of a coaling station at Djibuti. All steamers passing eastward call for their coal at Aden. Abyssinia is a country of enormous natural wealth-the existence of which England had the best knowledge. It has always been the policy of England, through might, intrigues, or downright bad faith, to prevent other nations getting a share in the opening up of Abyssinia. The chief exports from Abyssinia are coffee[1][ 1.This coffee is re-packed in Aden and sold as real Mocha.], timber, and skins; the imports, cotton goods, small arms and ammunition and hardware, nearly the whole of which was done through English agents in Abyssinia. Meanwhile, as we have seen, Menelik became Emperor of Abyssinia. He, in spite of English opposition and intrigues, surrounded himself by European advisors in order to benefit his country by the gradual
[CTRL] The Ayn Rand Cult
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Ayn Rand Cult Carrus Puublishing Company©1999 Jeff Walker Open Court Publishing Company PO Box 300 Peru, Illinois 61534-0300 800.815.2280 ISBN 0-8126-9390-6 - Introduction: The Most Peculiar Cult on Earth In a furious rage, the 63-year-old woman glared at the handsome young man seated in front of her, and in a choked voice, with a heavy Russian accent, placed a curse on his penis: "If you have an ounce of morality left in you, an ounce of psychological health, you'll be impotent for the next twenty years! And if you achieve any potency, you'll know it's a sign of still worse moral degradation!" Having delivered this imprecation, she violently slapped his faceonce, twice, and some witnesses say, even a third time. These slaps rang out like pistol shots. And these shots would soon be heard round the world. For this was the first great schism in the Objectivist movement. The woman was Ayn Rand, believed by her followers to be the greatest thinker since Aristotle, though some said, not to damn her with faint praise, the greatest thinker of all time. That she was the greatest novelist of all time almost went without saying. The young man was Nathaniel Branden, second greatest living intellect, who had brought the followers into the fold and had done more than anyone to convince them of Rand's greatness, and incidentally of his own. In the weeks that followed, the rank and file, the 'students of Objectivism' (they were not permitted to call themselves 'Objectivists') would be asked to take sides. Without knowing the cause of this violent rupture, the students of Objectivism would be asked to shun Branden and anyone who continued to associate with him. Many of them did just that, because Ayn Rand asked them to. Others refused to denounce Branden until they were shown a reason, and these were excommunicated, anathematized, boycotted, and blacklisted forever by official Objectivism. Their close friends abruptly stopped speaking to them. Some of Branden's own sisters and cousins would never speak to him again. One of the loyal Randians who shunned Branden was a young man named Alan Greenspan. The face-slaps would drastically change thousands of lives, and oddly enough, they continue to do so. And it would be years before the full story which led up to them would come out. Prior to this dramatic incident in New York City on 23rd August, 1968, Objectivism had grown by leaps and bounds. You might think that the Break between Rand and Branden would put an end to all that, and so it seemed for a while. In fact, things turned out differently Some of the history of the Objectivist movement can be found in this book, but let me just mention here a few of the highlights of the year 1998. A Showtime cable TV movie, The Passion of Ayn Rand, based on Barbara Branden's biography of the same name, finished shooting, with Helen Mirren as Ayn Rand, Eric Stoltz as Nathaniel Branden, and Peter Fonda as Frank O'Connor. The documentary movie, Ayn Rand: A Sense of Life, premiered and appeared in theaters across the U.S. and Canada, and was nominated for an Academy Award. The views of neo-Objectivist philosopher David Kelley dominated a popular John Stossel TV special on 'Greed'. Since her death in 1982 several books on Rand have appeared, most notably, Barbara Branden's biography The Passion of Ayn Rand (1986), Nathaniel Branden's memoir Judgment Day: My Years with Ayn Rand (1989), and Chris Sciabarra's Ayn Ran The Russian Radical (1995). Reading these three volumes will leave one with some understanding of what Ayn Rand and her movement were all about-but not much. The Sciabarra book is precisely the kind of academic exercise that Rand would have felt justified her contempt for academic philosophy. Apparently not an Objectivist, Sciabarra is nonetheless so sympathetic a critic as to invite the label of 'neo-Objectivist'. Ayn Rand: The Russian Radical goes to great lengths to suggest that Rand's philosophy is to a significant extent an outgrowth of various Russian influences present during her youth and is as systematic and radical as Marx's. Yet what Rand in fact took from her strictly Russian milieu was little more than a perceived need to counter Marxist ideology with an alternative indepth complex of ideas. The Passion of Ayn Rand and Judgment Day are works by the pair who were her greatest champions between 1950 and 1968. Both Brandens strive to preserve the Randian core of what they learned in their 18 years with her. Both strive also to expose Rand's volcanic temper and moralizing judgmentalism. Though both Branden books appear critical at times, and some unattractive wrinkles are sculpted in, care is taken to avoid knocking Rand off her pedestal. It was the Brandens, after all, who placed her there. Ron Merrill's The Ideas of Ayn Rand (1991) points to Rand's Nietzschean influences but argues unpersuasively against what seems obvious to non-Objectivists, namely that Rand clung
Re: [CTRL] [MC] and EVIL TELETUBBIES
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mark McHugh wrote: I remember reading a study back in the 80s about physical/psychological reactions to colors. Subjects were placed in rooms painted solidly with various colors. Pink stands out in my mind for some unknown reason. It produces a calming effect...for a short period of time. After about 15 minutes of sitting in the pink room, most subjects would be come agitated. Perhaps some other readers of the list have better information. I haven't seen this information since back then. -- Mark McHugh Really? I remember the study, unless there was more than one, in which pink was actually found to have a calming influence over time; especially in regards to prison populations. I'm not sure there were ever any experimental replications. Could be wrong on both accounts. Jamieson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fwd: Nazi Influence in Littleton]
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Members of the so-called Trench Coat Mafia - who reportedly had a thing for Swastikas, spoke German phrases to one another and executed their horrific mission on Adolf Hitler's birthday - were said to be devoted fans of the veteran German techno band KMFDM. That's an acronym for Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid, which can be roughly translated into: ''No Pity for the Majority.'' snip A better translation--and more ominous, in light of German history--would be "No Majority for Compassion." Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [MC] and EVIL TELETUBBIES
-Caveat Lector- Andrew Hennessey wrote: [snip] The themes they explore are asexual eg. the male teletubby wearing a skirt and playing the 'round and round' game, the pink energies from the central transmitter hypnotically swirled before my eyes and I actually felt a physical sense of relaxation as I watched [I'm not prone to this] The eyes of the teletubbies are wide and innocent and the childlike god of the sun looks down upon the spirits at play in the well monitored and controlled utopia. Children are being indoctrinated into accepting remote instructions. Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group EdinburghScotland I remember reading a study back in the 80s about physical/psychological reactions to colors. Subjects were placed in rooms painted solidly with various colors. Pink stands out in my mind for some unknown reason. It produces a calming effect...for a short period of time. After about 15 minutes of sitting in the pink room, most subjects would be come agitated. Perhaps some other readers of the list have better information. I haven't seen this information since back then. -- Mark McHugh She comes in colours, she's a rainbow! -Keith and Mick DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] A Religion for Every Taste]
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- .. This fantasy of national doctrinal orthodoxy is belied by the great upwelling of religious ferment in upstate New York during the period 1800-1850 that gave us Mormons, Millerite Millennialists [leading to Jehovah's Witnesses and 7th-Day Adventists and Christian Scientists], Spiritualists, Prohibitionists, Suffragettes, Abolitionists, et al, as documented in THE BURNED-OVER ZONE; the Quakers, Shakers and other Nonconformists; the wildly populist Wesleyans/Methodists and Baptists, in constant bitter struggle with each other and with the Calvinists/ Puritans and Episcopalians representing more propertied classes; and uneasy Roman Catholic dominance of Maryland, Louisiana, Maine. ... Not to mention the assorted flavors of Presbyterian and Covenanter. (See the *Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches* for an astounding array of minuscule churches...) An important element in the extremely fluid religio-social picture of the 19th century was the identification of different churches with different social classes. For example, in 19th-century Philadelphia, when people left the Society of Friends (Quakers), what church they moved to depended on their social standing and, to some extent, on what neighborhood they lived in. A Quaker shopkeeper living in Northern Liberties (working- and middle-class) would become Presbyterian, while a Quaker banker living on Rittenhouse Square (upper class and upper-class wannabes) would become Episcopalian. And when Philadelphia Quakerism split in 1828, it was in part because the rural Friends, mostly small farmers, deeply resented the economic control over their lives exercised by the wealthy Quaker bankers from the city. This split is paralleled within the Congregational Church, when the Unitarians broke away. In both cases the issues were ostensibly theological but with a deep underlying element of class mistrust, even hatred. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] This Time, Things Are Different (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- THIS TIME, THINGS ARE DIFFERENT === (CNNS, 05/10/99) -- The year is 1992, and the U.S. is shocked by starvation in Somalia. But an article in EXTRA! asks, "If the U.S. has not consistently acted in an altruistic manner toward starving people in Africa, why did it dispatch troops to Somalia at this point?" [1] But Washington Post lullabied us that, "Unlike previous large-scale operations, there is no U.S. strategic or economic interests in the Somalia deployments." [2]. Later on though, we learned that "...four major U.S. oil companies are quietly sitting on a prospective fortune in exclusive concessions to explore and exploit tens of millions of acres of the Somali countryside." [3] Then the U.S. deployed into Haiti. The cover story was that we'd again become very humanitarian, concerned about the Haitians. What we didn't widely understand was that for years the U.S. has been quietly involved in Haitian politics. [4] We wanted the leader of Haiti to be *our* stooge, not just any stooge. It turned out that Haiti is "a major transshipment point for cocaine traffickers..." [5] In 1918, President Woodrow Wilson authorized formation of the Committee on Public Information (CPI). CPI was "a propaganda machine headed up by George Creel." [6] The USA mass media played along: "most newspapers reportedly published all 6,000 press releases sent out by the CPI News Division." [7] The USA mass media even today is a "team player" with the U.S. government; night after night their news coverage mostly just relays whatever the government said that day. (Nightly "News": "Bill Clinton said this"; "Madeleine Albright said that.") In 1941, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt "created the U.S. Office of Censorship, appointing Byron Price, former executive news editor of the Associated Press, director." [8] Also helping control the news during wartime was the Office of War Information (OWI), "a propaganda organization headed up by Elmer Davis, formerly with CBS News and the New York Times..." [9] In 1968, "some 570 South Vietnamese civilians were slaughtered in Mylai." [10] But the U.S. mass media did not challenge the Pentagon's story that it was really 128 commies that had been killed, even though they were aware of controverting reports coming from Europe and elsewhere. [11]. It's all in a day's work for the lambkins of CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, PBS, etc. In 1991, "the networks rejected uncensored videotape footage of the heavy Iraqi civilian damage," during the Persian Gulf War. [12] Instead, "thenetworkscontinued to feed the Pentagon-approved, high-tech, smart-bomb, antiseptic, non-threatening version of the war." [13] In 1992, the "Department of Defense and a group of self-selected media executives agreed on nine out of ten ground rules for press coverage of America's next military engagement." [14] President George Bush once exclaimed, "The American people are not stupid!" Why did Bush feel he needed to say that? Polls supposedly show that most of the U.S. public is supportive of current U.S. intervention in Yugoslavia. They've obviously been seduced by U.S. mass media news reports. In spite of a long history of the consistent untrustworthiness of the U.S. government and the mainstream news media, Americans seem to believe that, "This time, things are different." --- Notes --- [1] "The Somalia Intervention: Tragedy Made Simple," by Jim Naureckas. EXTRA! March 1993. Qtd. in *Censored: The News That Didn't Make The News -- And Why* by Carl Jensen Project Censored. New York: Four Walls Eight Windows, 1994. ISSN: 1074-5998. (A.k.a. The 1994 Project Censored Yearbook.) [2] Washington Post, 12/6/92. Qtd. in Jensen, op. cit. [3] "The Oil Factor in Somalia," by Mark Fineman. Los Angeles Times, 1/18/93. Qtd. in Jensen, op. cit. [4] Jensen, op. cit. [5] Jensen, op. cit. [6] *Censored: The News That Didn't Make The News -- And Why* by Carl Jensen Project Censored. Chapel Hill: Shelburne Press, 1993. ISBN: 1-882680-00-6. (A.k.a. The 1993 Project Censored Yearbook.) [7] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [8] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [9] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [10] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [11] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [12] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [13] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. [14] Jensen, 1993. Op. cit. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed.
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN HORROR SHOW Part III
-Caveat Lector- With regard to the abovefirst, Eric's eyes looking "dead"that is the dead zone alright, drugshe probably could not even move them Second.and this just rang a bell.Halle Bopp, their tapes were in English and GermanI think they were murdered, just as Jonestown.and if you look for this Rabbi Washingon, House of Israel, undoubltedly a Black Nationalist, you might have some answers.if yu check old newspaper clippings, he is or was surrounded with Ghana black childrne, who looked like zombies...unhappy, none smiling... yet, you looked at pictures of Jonestown children, and I preseume the children at Waco, they were happy, laughing children. It is said the Trenchcoat Mafia spoke German; this may have an entirely different meetingif there was progrmming done until hypnotic drugs, the two kids could not help wht they didit still seems to me, there was a little too much religion. Now go to Jonesboro, Ark, the President's home state.what does all this stuff mean. Are these psychologists and psyciatrists this stupid, or are they guilty because often they too are involved in thise behavior modificaiton programs that go amuckjust like that missile on the Chinese Embassy Halle Bopp - well, they were packed and ready to goyou do not take clothing on a one way trip to heavennor do you buy new shoesI keep thinking of Oswayd when he said "by June new shoes"Lee Harvey Oswald's daughter's name was Rachel...and other was Audry...he had no daughter June It will take a good researcher with access to all data to figure his out; also I would be intrested in knowing if Eric's father was ever stationed in Germany. These were kids killing kidswhat was the magic word - maybe we need a dog trainer, one that trains the K-9 ChoirI hve seen dogs backed down with a look, so what figures here. Our intelligensia in the police and in the CIA are pretty damn stupid if they think the American people are going to buy any more of this crap. What have they done to the children...and Bill Clinton, mass murderer and sodomistthis goes to his front door. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Brainwashing-the f thing
-Caveat Lector- A little while back someone posted a note where there was a sentence with the word "of" in it two times. You were supposed to count the f's and the point was that many people skip over the f in the word "of" because we've been trained to look at it as "ov." I was wondering if anyone had the sentence, or a link to the phrase. I am writing a paper on brainwashing and would like to use it. thanks! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SONY: Standard Oil of New York
-Caveat Lector- From Dr. Beter Audio Letter #3 (August 21, 1975): For example, the Rockefeller-controlled "Hertz Rent-A-Car Company" has just launched a new magazine for customers called "NUMBER ONE", and the inaugural issue contains a cover article titled, quote: "JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER III - SOME STRONG IDEAS AMERICANS CAN USE IN THE SECOND REVOLUTION." In that article John's involvement in the IPR is paraded as if it were something to be proud of; but it doesn't mention that after Japan was defeated in the War (that the IPR helped bring about), John D. Rockefeller III swooped down with his entourage and proceeded to take over the Japanese economy lock, stock, and barrel, consolidating great chunks of it into a huge cartel called the Zaibatsu. The so-called economic miracle of Japan is in fact no more surprising than the remarkably American appearance of this Asian giant since the War. Since World War II both America and Japan have been under Rockefeller control. After all, even SONY stands for nothing more than the former Standard Oil Company of New York! From Dr. Beter Audio Letter #36 (July 27, 1978): When war broke out, John D. Rockefeller III promptly made himself "Assistant" to the same Norman Davis who had told Bishop Wells of the coming war with Japan. From there, John moved from one position to another, setting the stage for a complete Rockefeller take-over of Japan after the war. As soon as World War II ended, John D. Rockefeller III and his entourage swooped down upon the ruins of Japan. To a people destitute in the aftermath of war, financial resources of Rockefeller proportions can buy almost anything and everything--and they did just that. Soon the mammoth Rockefeller Cartel of thousands of Japanese enterprises, the zaibatsu, began emerging. Much of the early industrial rebirth in Japan under Rockefeller control was in the area of electronics, for which the Japanese have an enormous aptitude. One of the most famous Rockefeller enterprises in Japan in this realm is that of "SONY" whose products have penetrated every nook and cranny of the world. SONY, my friends, is not a Japanese name or word, but an acronym--it stands for the former Standard Oil of New York. Today Japan is making a bid to become the No. 1 power in electronics in the entire world. At the funeral of John D. Rockefeller III this month, more than half of the cables and telegrams came from associates in Japan, but John's expertise in the Far East went far beyond Japan to include all of Asia. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- "Howard R. Davis III" wrote: -Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether they be pro-gun or anti-gun, most people would acknowledge that mankind has certain, Inalienable Rights. Not at all. Rights are a conceptual legal concept. If everybody plays along, you have rights. If most, or even many people don't play along, you have bupkes. There is nothing inalienable about legalisms in the real world. The above is a most revealing statement. It shows that Nurev has the same understanding of rights as did Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and all the other mass murders of the past (and of the future). They have no concept of the agreement among mature people to recognize the humanity of others and not treat them as resources to be exploited and killed if they get in the way. The very basis of the concept of "rights" comes from our innate understanding that others value their lives and we cannot take that life without doing harm to our very soul. (There has been some postings on this list by a retired military officer about the difficulties in training young men to kill which go into this more deeply). We look at ourselves and others and realize that others have a life which they value as much as we value our own. While Nurev may claim to wish to ban guns for the good of humanity, it is obvious from his replies that this is only a cover. His replies often show a deep hatred for any who disagree with him and often are made up of threats of harm (of course from others, not himself) to that person and an unseemly desire to see that threat of violence come to fruition. In an earlier post to this list, I suggested to those who wish to end the "culture of violence" that instead of repealing the 2nd amendment, that the first amendment might be modified to prohibit the showing of violence in the media. Did anyone one of those supposedly so concerned about the "culture of violence" respond? Of course not. They are not interested in this because they, in fact, are happy to see this violence in the media and in our society. They want to see this, because they know that it is necessary for their campaign to disarm the American people. Does anyone doubt that they are happy to hear of the killings? Look what Nurev writes later about the increasing number of people who might join his cause: "Oh yeah??? Wanna bet? This country has one, maybe two more massacres left before it becomes a groundswell". Does that not sound like someone who is looking forward to more such murders? On several occasions Nurev has threatened his critics with a future revolution of the people. He seems to enjoy fantasizing about a future revolution against the "capitalists" who he seems to fear will take over the government. (They haven't already?) Yet here he wants to take away their guns. What kind of sense does that make? Of course, Nurev probably has a nice useless government job and really doesn't care a bit about the "people". Howard Davis Clap, Clap, clap, clap, clap,...Howard, this is a most thoughtful and accurate analysis. I only wish I had said it. Jim Norman DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] German Teen Fires Gun in Classroom
-Caveat Lector- German Teen Fires Gun in Class .c The Associated Press BERLIN (AP) -- A 15-year-old boy who had threatened a teacher with a pistol that fires plastic bullets came back the next day and shot at a student during class before fleeing the school, police reported Sunday. No one was injured in the incidents last week in the town of Velten, just north of Berlin. Police said the student used a ``soft-air pistol,'' which looks like a real gun but shoots plastic rounds using compressed air. The student, identified only as Manuel G., came into class on Thursday and pointed the gun at a teacher's head. School officials did not report him, however, until Friday, after the shot was fired at the student, police said. A search of Manuel's room turned up the pistol, two slingshots, several knives and ammunition, as well as an old German war flag, newspapers from the Nazi era and a school notebook with the letters ``SS'' written on it, the initials of the elite Nazi units responsible for many wartime atrocities. All items were confiscated. A police spokeswoman said she had no information as to the teen's motives. He was questioned and released to the custody of his parents. Prosecutors are considering charges, she said, and the investigation is continuing. The incident came just two weeks after two U.S. teen-agers killed 13 people at a high school in Colorado before turning their guns on themselves. That attack, one of a string of similar incidents in the United States, shocked many in Germany as well, especially because of the teens' reported admiration of Adolf Hitler. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Return of US/China Cold War
-Caveat Lector- "China has broken off diplomatic contacts with Washington." "U.S. official travel to China has been suspended." China Walks Fine Line With Protests By JOHN LEICESTER .c The Associated Press BEIJING (AP) -- In unleashing indignant crowds of stone-throwing students on the U.S. Embassy, Chinese leaders have allowed the nation to vent some deeply felt anger. But they have also taken a risk. Since crushing massive pro-democracy demonstrations on Tiananmen Square 10 years ago, Chinese leaders have forbidden large-scale protests, fearing they could quickly spiral out of control. But stopping people from demonstrating after NATO accidentally bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade late Friday could have been just as hazardous: Emotions could have turned against the government, which might have looked weak and out-of-touch with the public mood. ``We're just coming out here to smash up some bricks to show our anger,'' said a protesting worker, who only gave his surname, Wang. ``We wish our officials would be stronger.'' In opting to allow protests, Chinese leaders also put in certain controls. It's mostly students who have been allowed to march on the U.S. and British embassies, not ranks of burly workers that police would have found harder to handle. Authorities ferried students on buses to the embassy district, and police allowed them to hurl rocks and smash cars -- but prevented anyone from storming the embassy gates. It's hard to see a bright future for U.S.-China relations. The bombing of the Chinese Embassy, which killed three people, and the subsequent protests in Beijing and torching of a U.S. consulate in southwest China come on top of a wide range of problems between Beijing and Washington. Allegations -- hotly denied by Beijing -- that China stole U.S. nuclear weapons secrets have hardened anti-China sentiment in the U.S. Congress. There are also persistent tensions over Taiwan, human rights, and U.S. research into an anti-missile system that Beijing fears could spark an arms race. With public emotions running high, China said today it was breaking off diplomatic contacts with Washington on human rights, arms control, weapons proliferation and international security. The tougher attitude towards Washington may prevent Chinese leaders from making the concessions U.S. negotiators are seeking before China is admitted to the World Trade Organization. In another sign of how the protests were complicating U.S.-China ties, U.S. official travel to China was suspended. State-run Chinese media helped set the angry public mood. Their coverage of the Kosovo conflict has often been belligerently anti-American. State media have focused heavily on Yugoslav casualties from NATO attacks, not on the plight of hundreds of thousands of Kosovo's ethnic Albanian refugees. Having let the protest genie out of the bottle, China will inevitably seek to get it back in again: The 10th anniversary of the June 4, 1989, Tiananmen crackdown is approaching, and the government will very likely take whatever steps are necessary to prevent demonstrations on that sensitive date. Allowing protests to go on too long also carries with it the risk of them getting bigger, and angrier. ``We must prevent overreaction,'' Vice President Hu Jintao said Sunday in a nationwide televised address. EDITOR'S NOTE: John Leicester has been a Beijing-based correspondent for The Associated Press since 1996. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NATO Facility in Greece Attacked
-Caveat Lector- NATO Facility in Greece Damaged ATHENS, Greece (AP) -- Scores of demonstrators broke into a NATO communications facility in northern Greece in renewed protests against the alliance's bombing in Yugoslavia. Shouting anti-American slogans, the protesters broke into an unused army base and damaged communications equipment stored at the base, near the northern port Salonica, local media said. There were no arrests, and the extent of the damage was not immediately clear. The air campaign has been widely condemned in NATO-member Greece, where attention is largely focused on the damage and deaths caused by the bombing and sympathy has grown for fellow Orthodox Christian Serbs. More than 3,000 anti-war protesters joined a ``Marathon March'' on Sunday. They followed the ancient course that gave the marathon its name and passed outside the U.S. Embassy in Athens. Smaller demonstrations were held in five other Greek towns. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Russia Meets With China
-Caveat Lector- "Chernomyrdin planned to head for Belgrade to discuss the German peace plan with Milosevic, but instead returned to Moscow after the talks in Germany. "He said he came back because ``new, very serious developments have emerged connected to the Balkan settlement.' Russian Envoy To Meet With Chinese By BARRY RENFREW .c The Associated Press MOSCOW (AP) -- Russia's envoy for Kosovo headed for China today for talks on the bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade and ways to end the crisis over Kosovo. The decision to send envoy Viktor Chernomyrdin came after President Boris Yeltsin spoke by phone with his Chinese counterpart, Jiang Zemin, Russian officials said. Few details were given on their conversation. ``The leaders of both states discussed in detail the situation in Yugoslavia and its further aggravation due to NATO's barbaric action, which caused casualties among Chinese citizens who served in Belgrade,'' said a statement from Yeltsin's office. Chernomyrdin, who has headed Moscow's efforts to find a diplomatic solution to the Kosovo crisis, was expected to try to calm China's anger over the embassy attack. Aides said he would meet Tuesday with Chinese Prime Minister Zhu Rongji. NATO's unintentional bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade late Friday killed three people and prompted the largest public protests in China since the Tiananmen Square pro-democracy demonstrations 10 years ago. Chernomyrdin criticized the embassy bombing, but insisted it should not derail progress toward resolving the Kosovo crisis. The attack ``has thrown us backward and is not leading to peace,'' he said Sunday. Russia has repeatedly denounced the NATO attacks against Yugoslavia, but is also keen to play a key role in finding a political solution. NATO nations have encouraged Russia's diplomatic efforts and were jubilant when Moscow endorsed a tentative peace plan in talks with G-7 nations last week. Russian officials were stepping up efforts to get China and other Asian countries to help work out a peaceful settlement to the Kosovo conflict, Foreign Ministry spokesman Grigory Karasin said Sunday. Chernomyrdin has said progress is being made on the diplomatic front. Returning from Germany on Sunday, he said that serious new developments had emerged during peace talks, but gave no details. Chernomyrdin said he told Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic about the developments in a phone conversation and Milosevic was ``very satisfied,'' Russian news agencies reported. Chernomyrdin had planned to head for Belgrade on Sunday to deliver the plan to Milosevic, but instead returned to Moscow after the talks in Germany. He said he came back because ``new, very serious developments have emerged connected to the Balkan settlement'' that he wanted to discuss with Russian leaders. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: rally
-Caveat Lector- Just got a message from my sister in Riverside CA: - Original Message - From: Carter, Marsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 11:48 AM Subject: rally the protest rally in the police killing of a 19 year old black woman in Riverside is going on right now. THEY are meeting in front of city hall, 2 blocks away, for speeches and getting worked up, then marching to the DA's office, cuz he won't charge the officers. The JDL is pissed at Rev. Jackson, so they are down here also. The cops are out in force, city, sheriff, and CHP. I'm on the first floor, facing a window that looks towards city hall, watching all the traffic and activity. Other streets are closed, so this street has way more traffic than usual. There's officers posted on the jail roof, protesters walking past going to the rally, with their babies and toddlers in hand. Yep, another day in paradise To which I responded: You didn't go out for lunch today, I'll bet, eh? * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sonic.net/~ric * ICQ# 19633976 * * *** SkeptiChat: sliding down the razor-blade of life *** now featuring SkeptiNews: All The News That's Fit To Question email INFO or SUBSCRIBE SKEPTICHAT to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Red Chinese Espionage in Clinton's 2nd Term
-Caveat Lector- "Despite claims by administration officials that the problem was confined to previous administrations, this case demonstrates that Chinese espionage took place during President Clinton's second term. "Energy Secretary Bill Richardson acknowledged on NBC news that China had engaged in espionage during the Clinton administration, but did not go into detail. "Federal prosecutors wanted to charge [this particular spy] with espionage but couldn't because the [Clinton] Justice Department disapproved of the prosecution." Report: Scientist Spied for China .c The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) -- A scientist working on a classified Pentagon project for tracking submarines passed advanced radar technology secrets to China in 1997, The New York Times reported today. The information about the radar technology, including a program in the works for two decades, was presented to Chinese nuclear-weapons experts during a May 1997 lecture in Beijing by Taiwanese-American scientist Peter Lee, the newspaper said, citing court records. At the time, Lee was working for TRW Inc., which was doing work for the Pentagon. Technology to detect and track submarines is closely guarded by the Pentagon because the Navy's ability to hide its submarines is a crucial military advantage. The case shows alleged Chinese espionage took place during President Clinton's second term. After assertions of Chinese-orchestrated theft of nuclear secrets from Los Alamos National Laboratory emerged earlier this year, U.S. officials had said the problem was confined to previous administrations. On Sunday, Energy Secretary Bill Richardson acknowledged on the NBC news program ``Meet the Press'' that China had engaged in espionage during the Clinton administration, but did not go into detail. Federal prosecutors wanted to charge Lee with espionage but couldn't in part because the Navy refused to allow open-court testimony about the anti-submarine warfare technology, the newspaper quoted unidentified law enforcement officials as saying. The Justice Department also disapproved of the prosecution. Instead, Lee pleaded guilty to filing a false statement about the 1997 trip to China and to revealing classified laser data during a 1985 trip to China. The FBI watched Lee from the 1980s but did not prevent him from traveling to Beijing in 1997 when he discussed his work on the submarine-tracking project, the Times said. He had told his employer, TRW, that he was going to China only for sightseeing and pleasure. At Lee's sentencing on March 26, 1998, prosecutor Jonathan Shapiro told the judge that Lee's activities struck at the heart of national security, the Times reported, citing unidentified witnesses at the hearing. But Lee and his lawyer said the scientist had simply made mistakes and never intended to help a foreign country or harm the United States. Lee was sentenced to a year in a halfway house with three years' probation and a $20,000 fine. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Blair-y Eyed
-Caveat Lector- From www.newstatesman.co.uk Blair revives imperialism The war over Kosovo (or "conflict" as western politicians insist on calling it) is beginning to migrate to the inside pages of the newspapers and to the backs of our minds. This was no doubt inevitable; the late-20th-century mind has a chronically short attention span. We have created a desert, called it a humanitarian intervention, and soon we shall grow bored with it. Yet the western leaders who have recklessly intervened in the Balkans will soon face painful choices about the region's future. The war was launched on a false assumption: that Slobodan Milosevic would quickly back down; indeed, that he wished to do so and merely needed a few bombs as political cover against hard- line Serbian rivals. When that premise proved unsustainable, Nato switched to another false assumption: that Milosevic is personally responsible for the atrocities in Kosovo and that, once he is removed from power or forced to climb down, everybody can go home and live happily ever after. The reality is different. The west has taken responsibility for a region where the ethnic groups show no signs of co-existing in peace. The violence is now in Kosovo; it was formerly in Bosnia; it may next be in Macedonia or Montenegro or even Serbia itself. We may be bored; but there is not the remotest chance that Serbs, Albanians, Macedonians, Hungarians and others will grow tired of their ancient quarrels, any more than have the Catholics and Protestants of Ulster. The west must therefore do one of two things: police the region indefinitely, or preside over a series of partitions and population exchanges. And if humanitarian intervention is to become the norm, as Tony Blair suggests, the west is likely to face similar choices in parts of Africa, the Middle East, the Caucasus, and south Asia. Yet the western liberal mind will not be comfortable with either alternative. The first option - policing - means in effect the revival of imperialism, with the liberal humanitarian's burden replacing the white man's burden. Imperial powers have always been the most effective at suppression of ethn ic conflicts, as the British were in India and Africa, the Habsburgs in central Europe, the Russians in Caucasia. Just as western powers once took peace and Christianity to savage people, so now (if we accept Mr Blair's l ogic) they will take peace and western liberal democracy. Just as markets were once secured for the East India Company, so now they will be secured for Microsoft or McDonald's, since our belief in the civilising benefits of western trade and capital is quite as strong as our ancestors'. But imperialism is not usually a pretty thing. If policing is to be effective in areas of ethnic division, it must be armed and it must be ruthless. Other wise, the population will continue to fear the local police and the ethnically based gangs more than they fear the outside authorities, so that hatreds continue to build. The security must also be offered without any fixed time limit; local police officers will not act against their own ethnic group if they think they would be left unprotected from revenge a year later. These lessons, in different ways, can be learnt from both Bosnia and Ulster. The second alternative - partition and population exchange - was most famously adopted by the British in India. It was clumsily done, with horrific short-term results, yet the Indian subcontinent, by international standards, has stayed mercifully free of serious ethnic conflict. Population exchange has happened in Europe, too, notably between Greece and Turkey in the 1920s. Though never officially recognised, partition has been the solution for Cyprus. Yet our minds recoil. Partition and population exchange legitimise ethnic cleansing; worse, they encourage it elsewhere and seem to undermine the principles of tolerance and multiracialism that western societies have struggled so painfully to establish. So this is a choice between a rock and a hard place if ever there was one. No wonder western leaders prefer not to think about either too much. Is there, to coin a phrase, a third way? Yes, though not a very glamorous or exciting one. It is simply to re-state the UN principle that the proper occasion for war is when international boundaries are breached; to keep out of other people's internal conflicts, unless there is overwhelming evidence that we can enforce a solution; to spend on food, medicine, clothing and shelter what we now spend on bombs and missiles; to give a warmer welcome to refugees who flee tyranny or ethnic harassment; and to show our disapproval of odious regimes by ostracising them and refusing to sell them arms or to give them trading privileges. That option - which is more or less what worked for South Africa - has the merit of being both realistic and humanitarian. New Labour's secret godfather Charles Leadbeater discovers that Blair and Brown owe a surprising
[CTRL] Keynes
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis Lord Skidelsky's criticism of NATO: the driving forces of "ethical imperialism" By Nick Beams 10 May 1999 There is a particular significance to the criticisms of the NATO war against Serbia by Lord Robert Skidelsky and his warning that its doctrine of "ethical imperialism" could result in a breakdown of the economic and polit ical order of world capitalism. Skidelsky, who issued his criticisms in a series of lectures in Sydney and Melbourne last week, is the author of a widely-acclaimed two-volume study of the life and work of the British economist John Maynard Keynes. He is currently writing a third volume dealing with Keynes' role in the Bretton Woods Agreement of 1944, which played such a central role in the economic restabilisation of world capitalism following World War II. In the popular mind Keynes is most directly associated with the policies that bear his name, based on government stimulation of the economy and "demand management" to prevent the emergence of slump and depression. But thi s was only part of his theoretical work, which was aimed at trying to establish the mechanisms to effect a stabilisation of world capitalism. Keynes first came into public prominence in the aftermath of World War I. A member of the British delegation at the Versailles negotiations he resigned his post in June 1919 and issued a devastating critique of the Versai lles Treaty under the title Economic Consequences of the Peace. Keynes had two central objections to the Versailles arrangements: that the policy of harsh war reparations imposed on Germany would destroy the economic mech anisms on which pre-war Europe had been based, leading to a war of vengeance by Germany, and that the terms of the treaty increased the power of American finance capital over Europe. Following his criticisms of Versailles, Keynes became increasingly critical of the free market orthodoxy which dominated official government circles and in 1925 wrote a scathing attack on the decision of the then British Chancellor of the Exchequer, Winston Churchill, to return Britain to the pre-1914 gold standard. Issuing a pamphlet entitled The Economic Consequences of Mr Churchill, he warned the policy would require a 10 percent cut i n British wages and could only be achieved by "intensifying unemployment without limit." As the economic problems deepened in the 1920s, Keynes was increasingly concerned with devising measures which, in Skidelsky's words, could "reconstruct the capitalist social order on the basis of improved technical manag ement." In the aftermath of the economic collapse of 1932, he appealed to the incoming US President Roosevelt to reverse the policies of the previous Hoover administration, which threatened to bring social revolution. In an open letter to Roosevelt on the New Deal early in 1933, he wrote: "If you fail, rational change will be gravely prejudiced, leaving orthodoxy [the doctrine of the free market] and revolution to fight it out." In 1936, Keynes published his most famous work, the General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money in which he denounced the assertion of the defenders of free market orthodoxy that the capitalist system could automatic ally reach equilibrium at full employment, arguing that government intervention was necessary to increase "effective demand" to lift national income and employment. His policy prescriptions for state intervention were based on a key assumption--that finance capital should remain within the confines of the national state. As he had written in 1933, ideas and culture should, by their n ature, be international, goods should, where possible be "homespun", but capital had above all to be national in scope. The necessity for the strict regulation of finance capital in order to facilitate national economic regulation by governments was to form a key component of the Bretton Woods Agreement of 1944, drawn up by Keynes and his American counterpart in the negotiations, Harry Dexter White. Under the agreement, the value of major world currencies were tied in fixed exchange rates to the US dollar, which, in turn, was to be backed by gold at the rate of $35 per ounce. Loans were to be provided to countries th at experienced balance of payments difficulties, ruling out the need for the imposition of tariffs, and currency devaluations, which had brought about the devastating contraction of world trade in the 1930s. While providing the framework for free trade, the Bretton Woods system embodied strict government controls on the movement of finance capital. As US Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau told the conference, the aim of the agreement was to "drive the usurious moneylenders from the temple of international finance." In less flamboyant language, Keynes explained that: "Not merely as a feature of the transition but as a permanent
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN HORROR SHOW Part III
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado/rhorror3.htm Monday, May 03, 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN HORROR SHOW The Littleton Massacre's Hidden Mind Control Connections Part III © 1999 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk, Inc. All Rights Reserved ERIC HARRIS'S BACKGROUND There is a significant red flag, in my opinion, in the following facts regarding Eric Harris, widely acknowledged to be the mastermind of the devastation at Columbine High, the "dominant" personality in his relationship with Dylan Klebold and it would seem at least a would-be ringleader among the Trenchcoat Mafia crew. In my research of the covert government's various and sundry mind control operations and certain related activities, a number of military bases and facilities such as national laboratories like Oak Ridge, Sandia, Los Alamos and Brookhaven have stood out as being in many cases closely or even inextricably linked to a number of these mind control activities. The Presidio Army base in San Francisco was the scene for CIA operative Col. Aquino's psychosexual abuse mind control operation aimed at children in the base's daycare center. Vandenberg AFB in Santa Barbara County has also been named as a site for "MK" activity--much of it in the verified, documented subterranean facility there. Long Island's Montauk Air Force Station and nearby Brookhaven National Labs is of course another location for lots of mind-tweaking weirdness. In a section of my report on the current state of the Montauk Project and related activities entitled "Phoenix Undead" which lists some known subterranean facilities where evidence shows covert "psy-ops" activity being conducted, I referred specifically to an installation beneath Plattsburgh AFB in northeastern New York State. Plattsburgh AFB has a VAST, 18-level subterranean facility. Columbine perpetrator Eric Harris was born in Plattsburgh and spent his whole life there until his family moved to Littleton in 1996. Eric Harris's father was an Air Force pilot stationed at Plattsburgh AFB. What's also curious here is that Plattsburgh AFB closed in 1994, was SUPPOSEDLY completely inoperative and the property due to be "recycled" for various other uses by September 1995. And yet Harris was still in Plattsburgh well after 94-95! The only thing still going on at Plattsburgh AFB after 1994 would obviously be covert activities. The peculiarities regarding the text of documents from Eric Harris's website and the likelihood that father Wayne Harris was connected to not only the documents themselves but ALSO to the activities described therein CANNOT be forgotten. Local residents and other eyewitnesses report that the base, though somewhat deserted, was still in some level of operation in 1997 even on the "surface," AND that top-secret operations were definitely going on in the documented 18-level underground complex beneath the base. This was verified by EM/RF signal detection equipment. Aside from mind control related operations, the base at Plattsburgh has currently been verified as a site of particle accelerator/beam research and experimentation. There are indications that in the 1960s Plattsburgh AFB was linked to the horrendous Ewen Cameron, president of the American Psychiatric Association, The Canadian Psychiatric Association AND the World Psychiatric Association, and his massive abuses in the MKULTRA (drug and neuroelectrically-based mind control) Project just over the border in Montreal. Reports indicate that this legacy continued at Plattsburgh through the 70s and beyond with electromagnetic/radio-frequency MK activities tied to some of the experimentation at Montauk. (Mentioned also in "Phoenix Undead" as a location for covert operations linked to Montauk's mind control experimentation is Stewart Air Force Base in New York, in between Plattsburgh and Montauk. Military facilities at Malta, N.Y. are also strongly tied to MK operations at both Montauk and Plattsburgh.) DRUGS AND MIND CONTROL A girl at Columbine High School said gunman Eric Harris's "eyes were dead." This phrase stuck out in my recollections of (early) news reports from the scene at Columbine. Eric Harris was being treated by a psychiatrist and was on Luvox, one of a class of drugs similar to Prozac, which like Prozac has been proven a potentially deadly combination when taken my mentally or emotionally unstable people, at least in certain instances. Interesting that Eric's psychiatrist was supposedly not only unaware of Eric's violent and blatantly antisocial tendencies but also of the many reports and studies showing the potential for disaster with Luvox and similar drugs when administered to younger people in general. I consider psychiatry in general to be a highly suspect field, which has had extensive
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The Rocky Mountain Horror Show: ADDENDUM
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado/rhorror4.htm Link to entire text of Harris website docs http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/quinn/hbook2.htm Kent's page on Plattsburgh radar anomalies--month after month! http://www.cbjd.net/orbit/radar/quinn_request.html * ADDENDUM: THE WEBPAGE DOCUMENTS Following is a verbatim transcription of the text from Eric Harrisís webpage. I have emphasized some of the most significant portions. John Quinn ** PIPE BOMBS Pipe bombs are some of the easiest and deadliest ways to kill a group of people or destroy a few things. First off, we will talk about the pipes. Second will be the explosive filler and last will be the shrapnel. PIPES: Pipes are about as easy to purchase as a CD. You do not want to have the length any longer than 8 inches. Diameter should usually be between 1íí and 2íí. If itís any longer than around 8íí it might not blow up how itís supposed to. If itís thicker than around 2íí, it will cost you a fuck-load of money. Normal metal galvanized pipes are the best to use, since plastic melts to easy and I donít think copper would be that great. Never did try it though. PIPES: Pipes are about as easy to purchase as a CD. You do not want to have the length any longer than 8 inches. Diameter should usually be between ?íí and 2íí. If itís any longer than around 8íí it might not blow up how itís supposed to. The way I bought most of my pipes is by going out and getting all of the caps one day, then getting the pipes a few days later, or at a different store. You donít want to look too suspicious. (There follows detailed technical instructions for assembling various configurations of pipe bombs, and descriptions of results of numerous tests run on different explosive materials. This material CLEARLY PROVES a longterm hand-in familiarity with the handling and use of such materials and and displays such an unusually proficient writing style and error-free command of language as to be most certainly NOT the work of a 16-year-old boy. Whatís more, how Eric Harris could have done all this testing and experimenting with no one else knowing anything seems inconceivable. This section ends with the following EXTREMELY INTERESTING comments. [John Quinn]) I did try it on the DELTA batch, and since they wonít be used until NBKitíll be kind of hard to report the results. You might try asking the survivors if they got a good look at the bomb before it went off and then the remains! NAPALM Napalm is used to burn people, houses, cars, or anything else that can be burnt. It can be produced in a wide variety of ways and by using pages of different ingredients. In this text I will review the methods and ingredients that I have found to be most promising. INGREDIENTS: In just about every ìanarchistî cookbook you can find you will see tons of napalm recipes. Through trial and error I have found that only a few are worth the trouble. Although, some of my tests can not be considered completely accurate since I was short on time and resources because of the WAR.First of all, one of the best recipes is actually the simplest. Motor oil and gasoline in a glass bottle is about all you need. You could spend hours and hours and lots of money to make a batch of napalm that if at all is only a little better. (Again very detailed descriptions of various ìrecipesî for napalm are given and descriptions of results of tests conducted for every method mentioned. Again the possibility Eric Harris could conduct such extensive testing of explosives without anyone else being aware of it seems nil. This section ends with the following comments. [John Quinn]) STORAGE: Storing gasoline is one of the biggest pain-in-the-ass tasks I have gone through in the pre-war era. First of all, you have to take into account that any extra gas containers lying around the shed or garage can easily cause suspicion. Second of all, it smells. So putting a couple jars in your closet is a bad idea. Third, gas expands when it is hot, so you donít want to put it in your trunk under a blazing sun all day long, because it might just blow up. So some good storage areas are deep in garage closets that are rarely visited, in your trunk if the weather is not hot at all, or under a tarp in your yard some place, if you have a rather fucking large and wooded property around your house. Other than those suggestions, you are on your own. Just be smart and remember the basic principles of gasoline. Itís flammable. (The following is part of the hidden code from any Microsoft Word document. It states the directories where the file is saved and the author. Note that the author is Wayne N. Harris. ëDOOM2í directory is the default directory
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN HORROR SHOW Part I
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado/rhorror1.htm Monday, May 03, 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN HORROR SHOW The Littleton Massacre's Hidden Mind Control Connections Part I © 1999 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk, Inc. All Rights Reserved UPDATE: DOCUMENTS COULD LINK FATHER TO ERIC HARRIS'S ACTIVITIES GORE IN BLACK TRENCHCOAT AUTHORITIES IGNORE FACTS, DECLARE TWO "ACTED ALONE" UNILATERAL MANIPULATION OF THE NEWS So now we have it. On Saturday May 1, in outright contradiction of dozens of eyewitness accounts, other evidence, news reports and in contradiction of all common sense AND of their own statements regarding the focus of their investigations for the preceding week and a half, Jefferson County law enforcement officials announced that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold "acted alone" in carrying out the murderous rampage at Littleton's Columbine High School. Two "lone gunmen." No other involvement, no conspiracy at all. Well isn't that just peachy. And blatant, bold, bald-faced lying of the first magnitude. Strange indeed how a pronouncement of such significance on an issue of such undeniable gravity was made at a date and time whereby it received very little attention from the press: late in the day on Saturday. In fact, the actual news item did not show up on our radar screen until Sunday morning. Hmmm... In the aftermath of the murderous rampage at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, an avalanche of mind-boggling grief and heart-wrenching tragedy will haunt the lives of many families for a long time to come, as it will haunt the memory of a nation. Colorado's Attorney General referred to the madness at Littleton as one of the most tragic days in our entire national history, a sentiment many would pretty much share. What's more, an avalanche of questions, fears and doubts on nearly everyone's part about the madness at Littleton remain fundamentally unaddressed. However one thing stands out very clearly in the days following this horror. The news and information disseminated to the public by the investigatory agencies involved in the case through the mass media is now being manipulated extensively, and some of the most significant information mentioned in the original news reports from the scene has literally disappeared from all discussion of the events, along with those individuals OTHER THAN Harris and Klebold who were described by EYEWITNESSES as being directly involved in the murder and mayhem at Columbine. I've been tracking the events at Littleton and subsequent numerous indications of official coverup and disinformation regarding the massacre at Columbine High School on April 20. Such a coverup can be easily demonstrated by analysis of certain facts and information--in particular information in EARLY news reports from the scene at Columbine that day. Proof now exists that significant information on the case is being withheld from the public. As well, extremely pertinent information has been pieced together regarding Eric Harris's past and that of his father, along with numerous other unexplained facts and circumstances regarding this tragic, horrifying and ultimately deeply sinister incident. Very strong indications have been uncovered showing this was a covert operation utilizing a severely mind controlled subject, Eric Harris, and other more senior operatives in carrying out an incident of murder, mayhem, devastation and madness; engineered to have massive sociological impact on the psyche of the American population and also the world in general. On behalf of those whose lives were lost and indeed on behalf of us all we must examine what really is and has been going on with the Littleton massacre and subsequent coverup. WHERE TO LOOK FOR THE TRUTH As a coverup in the massacre at Littleton is undeniable, a good place to look for hints to the truth is in the earlier news reports from the scene of the event. All early news reports mentioned AT LEAST 3 gunmen entering the school, due to MANY, MANY eyewitness accounts of such by students and faculty. A MAN, seemingly too old to be a student and NOT the person in a white T-shirt identified by witnesses as throwing bombs or grenades onto the roof of the school, was photographed being arrested and taken away. All mention of this person has now vanished from the news and from statements by any officials. This individual has NEVER been specifically identified or referred to again by anyone or any agency investigating this case. In addition, the person in the white T-shirt seen throwing explosives is another individual whose actions and identity have never been satisfactorily explained either and who has also now vanished from all reports on the incident. The coverup now in place concerning the person in the
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - Littleton Witness Chris Wisher
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado/wisher.htm Interview - Littleton Witness Chris Wisher Friday, May 07, 1999 John Quinn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PLEASE FORWARD AS FAR AND WIDELY AS POSSIBLE! URGENT: I conducted a telephone interview with Columbine High School student and witness Chris Wisher on 5/7/99, and also spoke briefly with his father. I asked the father about Chris's statement from the day of the tragedy identifying the person being arrested as one of the gunmen. Mr. Wisher said they had spent 2 1/2 hours with the FBI and apparently Mr. Wisher was reluctant to say too much as the investigation is ongoing. However, he DID say that Chris and the family are doing "everything they can to see that those responsible are brought to justice!" Obviously he is not referring to dead people here! I then spoke with Chris himself. Among his remarks and comments, Chris Wisher stated to me that he and certain companions are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that AT LEAST THREE perpetrators were involved in the mayhem at the school, and have given their testimony to that effect. This was directly witnessed by them outside the school building. One of those witnessed was the person in a white T-shirt throwing bombs onto the school roof. Another was someone OTHER THAN Harris or Klebold, OUTSIDE, in a black trenchcoat with a shotgun. SIMULTANEOUSLY they heard shots coming from INSIDE THE SCHOOL!. Chris Wisher also stated that he is personally acquainted with another witness who witnessed a GROUP OF 7-8 ASSAILANTS UPSTAIRS at Columbine in black trenchcoats with weapons, when Harris and Klebold were downstairs! He told me that there were MANY OTHER WITNESSES TO THIS! Mr. Wisher further stated that he is personally acquainted with a witness who was blatantly coerced by Sheriff's Dep't. investigators to CHANGE THEIR TESTIMONY REGARDING ADDITIONAL GUNMEN! Every time she stated that she saw more than three people they attempted to get her to CHANGE HER TESTIMONY! What's more I was told that a number of other witnesses have ALSO been coerced by investigators into changing their testimony. Mr. Wisher stated that many Columbine students, including himself, WILL NOT RETURN TO SCHOOL, because some of the murderers are RIGHT THERE, ATTENDING SCHOOL! This is yet another control element of this diabolically clever operation. What an EXTRAORDINARY intimidation upon ANYONE who would say what they know; to have some of the perpetrators right there in front of you and know that investigating "authorities," incomprehensibly, have "CLEARED" these murderers from any involvement; knowing that these participants in the slaughter are walking around with impunity and could obviously take measures to silence anyone. Chris stated to me that he and other students/witnesses KNOW that a coverup is going on in Littleton. He pointed out that the fact SWAT teams waited fours hours before entering Columbine High School literally proves that they and other authorities were well aware there were far more than two gun men inside. Furthermore Chris noted that he and other witnesses found it incomprehensible how 67 explosive devices could have been positioned in the building by just Harris and Klebold: and hard to figure how not one of these devices was seen by ANYONE, no matter how many people had positioned them. Other than what would be called circumstantial evidence the only solid evidence yet which I know of PROVING that investigators are intentionally COVERING UP facts, and are ACTIVELY PRESSURING WITNESSES TO CHANGE THEIR STORIES comes from my talk with Columbine student Chris Wisher. Wisher's statements to me are the single strongest proof so far that more than playing with the news being dribbled to the public, the "authorities" are actively, AGGRESSIVELY instituting a GENUINE coverup at this point in time. That being the case, though I deeply empathize with the unimaginable horror these families have been through, I believe it is far more horrifying for them and our country as a whole that a coverup about this gruesome madness is allowed to stand. How deep will their grief be then, knowing that the real truth has been buried; that some of the murderers of the kids have either disappeared or are, UNBELIEVABLY, back at school; their kids have been brutalized yet again by a system bent on twisting the truth; utterly spitting on the graves of those lost and protecting itself and it's apparent complicity to whatever degree at all costs? I strongly urge witnesses and their families to maintain their position an refuse to give in under pressure to ANYONE in ANY POSITION who attempts to manipulate and/or coerce them. I would also strongly urge anyone who knows witnesses and/or their families to bring up the subject of coercion of
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN HORROR SHOW Part II
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado.htm http://www.konformist.com/1999/colorado/rhorror2.htm Monday, May 03, 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN HORROR SHOW The Littleton Massacre's Hidden Mind Control Connections Part II © 1999 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk, Inc. All Rights Reserved WHAT'S THERE TO COVER UP? In addition to the massacre in Littleton there have been indications of official coverup and disinformation in most of the other bizarre, unprecedented and predominantly inexplicable cases of school-based terrorism carried out by rather young students the past few years. There have been the same such indications regarding such incidents as the crash of TWA Flight 800, the death of Princess Diana, the O.J. Simpson business, the Long Island Railroad Massacre, Waco, the Oklahoma City bombing as well as the Manson murders, the two Kennedy assassinations, the Martin Luther King assassination and a staggeringly long list of other profoundly significant and SHOCKING events of our recent past. Many of these events have had tremendous impact on prevailing social, political and philosophical conditions and viewpoints. It is becoming ever-more-obvious there is a coverup regarding the massacre at Littleton, and it is essential that the reason for this coverup is understood. The only conceivable reason for a coverup of such magnitude regarding an event of such stunning and massive social impact would be the direct involvement to some degree in the events on the part of a governmental or official agency of some kind, at some level--very likely a covert level. I am highly suspicious that, as in so many other of the above-mentioned incidents, this operation was carried out through the use of mind-controlled operatives fulfilling the directives of their controllers--the super-secret intelligence and (para)military agencies running our covert government (AND our "overt" government too!)--in implementing such carefully engineered and manipulated scenarios as the terror at Columbine High School. For the time being I leave it mainly to others to decipher the many "messages" undeniably lurking beneath the surface in this manipulated event of mass horror. Results such as causing increasing polarization and mistrust between various social and age groups and raising the bar in terms of what violent, sociopathic actions troubled teens (and others) might contemplate enacting are among the likely agendas. Galvanizing public support for gun control legislation and for restrictions on the Internet seem to be likely agendas at work in the Littleton massacre also, though as a parent I find it unconscionable that teenagers have almost unrestricted access to weapons of mass murder. Yet this is true for Americans in general. On this issue and regarding restrictions on the Internet, the role which active, attentive, loving and concerned parenting plays in having our youngsters mature into healthy and reasonably decent adults in a confusing and fast-changing world cannot be overemphasized or underestimated. As a society we cannot duck responsibility for the tidal wave of violence-oriented "entertainment" so prevalent today in the lives of our children. Parents, educators and other guardians have too often been either unaware, inattentive, unconcerned, tacitly or actively acquiescent and even directly supportive of our children being constantly bombarded by a proliferation of movies, TV shows, toys, video games and websites depicting graphic, gratuitous violence on an ever-increasing level. Regarding this issue we cannot be too surprised that our children are acting out violent behavior to an ever-increasing degree. We are undeniably reaping what we have sown or have allowed to be sown. ROCKY MOUNTAIN WEIRDNESS As a target area, Denver would seem (unfortunately) rather well suited for such terrible event. Denver has come under serious scrutiny for the massive oddities at Denver Int'l Airport, rampant rumors (and more) that a well-verified and tremendous underground complex beneath the airport is some sort of nerve center or "headquarters" for the western United States under some upcoming "New World Order" regime. Reports are that in addition to housing a massive number of subterranean "offices" and similar facilities there are also holding areas for tens of thousands of people: like, an underground concentration camp. I consider such reports interesting though not exactly verified. What IS a fact is that the walls of the airport's "GREAT HALL" (a Masonic term) are covered with tremendous murals depicting death, destruction, horror and what could only be termed apocalyptic chaos descending on the Earth. In particular non-white races and Jews are depicted as being decimated or exterminated in a veritable Nazi's wet dream. Absolutely EXTRAORDINARY that such depictions
Re: [CTRL] Web site: Conspiracies, Paranormal Phenomena, Covert O...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/10/99 2:13:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.parascope.com/index.htm It's OUR HOME! Everyone here should know about this site and visit often. Charles Overbeck (aka EASTERISLE) who is an editor on CTRL has done great work at Parascope. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton seen as Hitler!
-Caveat Lector- (I don't believe Hitler liked Cigars.) Sunday May 9 4:09 PM ET Russia WW Two Veterans Call Clinton Today's Hitler MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia celebrated the anniversary of Nazi Germany's defeat Sunday and many veterans said President Clinton and other NATO leaders had filled Adolf Hitler's boots in leading aggression against Europe. ``Clinton and NATO are worse bastards than Hitler. Shame on them!'' said Heidar Sufiyani, 75, who helped liberate Berlin in 1945 at the end of World War Two. Leaders of the NATO alliance waging a more than six-week-old air war against Yugoslavia have compared its leader Slobodan Milosevic to Hitler, but veterans in Russia, which bore the brunt of fighting against Nazi Germany, strongly disagreed. ``Between Hitler and Milosevic there is a world of difference and it's absurd to compare them,'' said Mikhail Cherikov, 75. ``There is a complete parallel between Hitler and NATO.'' Russians, who feel a common Slavic and Orthodox Christian bond with Yugoslavia, have rallied against the NATO air war. Russian President Boris Yeltsin presided over the Red Square parade and made no mention of Yugoslavia, but hailed the unity that Russians found in celebrating the end of Nazi Germany. ``Today's victory holiday unifies Russians, regardless of their beliefs and political inclinations,'' he said in a short speech. ``Every city and village marks this great day. Every household remembers the fallen and raises a toast to victory.'' Later Yeltsin said Russia would spare no effort to end the war in Yugoslavia, and that World War Two was a lesson in the danger of war spreading, Russian news agencies reported. ``All countries should not forget the main lesson of war. The rule of power may spark a big fire,'' he said. The Soviet Union suffered more than any other country during World War Two, losing 27 million people, and its victory over Nazi Germany was the greatest and one of the few lasting achievements of the Soviet era. ``We were at the front and know how terrible bombing is. In America very few understand because they were never bombed,'' said Anastasia Titova, who fought in the Ukraine. Cities across the former Soviet Union celebrated with ceremonies, but for some it was bittersweet. Yakov Khartenko, an 87-year-old major who fought in Berlin, summed up the loneliness of many veterans at a celebration in Almaty, the largest city in Kazakhstan. ``This celebration brings tears to my eyes. I live alone, and the friends that I served with have all died,'' he said. In Petropavlosk-Kamchatsky in the Russian Far East, a parachutist at a Victory Day celebration killed a nine-year-old boy after going off course, Itar-Tass news agency reported. One of the Soviet Union's great allies against Hitler -- bitter cold weather -- was on display in Moscow in the coldest Victory Day on record as temperatures fell below freezing. The weather forced Moscow's diminishing ranks of veterans to cover chests of medals with overcoats, although some left buttons open to display their hard-earned honors. Even amid condemnations of the Yugoslavia war, some veterans remembered their former World War Two allies warmly. ``After the war I served with Americans for two months on joint patrol in Vienna,'' said Sufiyani, who wore a blue military uniform with pins noting years of service in the Soviet KGB. ``If any of them are still alive, a big hello to them.'' http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/pl/story.html?s=v/nm/19990509/pl/russia _victory_1.html Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Illuminati in Bible Prophecy PLUS Masonry etc. . .
-Caveat Lector- This is from alt.illuminati. Some Biblical prophecy related to Masonry, NWO, and that lot. Have a look but remember Kris' catch phrase Caveat Lector!! Teo1000 Subject: Tribulation/Illuminati/NWO From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (poet) Date: 5/10/99 10:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings, First let me say that those who dare to read/post here in this newsgroup better know what they are getting themselves into. The time has come for the Great Society to crash and the New World Order (Masonry Project ) to take hold. Read Ezekial Chapter 33 and where ever you see the word Pharoa replace it with President of the USA and where ever you see the word Egypt replace it with America. After reading Ezekial please move forward and read Revelations Chapter 18. My friends, America is about to be unseated and she doesn't even realize that her President is helping in her demise, albeit knowingly or unknowingly. The great Mason Project began hundreds of years ago with the theory that from chaos voluntary world domination and slavery could be achieved. Thru the use of violence and missing children the Illuminati has accomplished the level of fear world wide which will be needed to convince the billions of people to accept the NWO. A one world government with a one world religion and trading organization. President Clinton, albeit a Mason, is deceived into thinking that the Masonry will want America to host the NWO. In fact America was the planting pot and the Euopean Union will be the host. The Bible tells us when these things will come to pass. "He who has wisdom will calculate, the mark of the east is 666" God is telling us the time period when the beast will take his seat. He also tells us where the beast will sit. 666x3=1998, in 1998 the beast will/did take his seat. The Bible tells us that he will be in the World Empire. We know thru the Bible as well as history that there were only four world empires. Media, Persia, Greece and Rome. The beast shall take his seat in the fourth empire; which means Rome must revive. With the formation of the EU Rome's western hemisphere is alive and well. The beast shall take his seat in the revived Roman empire in the year 1998 in the EU. There was only one person to take his seat in the EU and he was Germany's Schroder. The Bible also talks about the woman who sits on the beast of ten heads. The EU has eleven countries currently as members, though Britain has not joined monetarily leaving ten nations tied completely together to form the new Roman empire. On the back of the new currency for the EU (Euro) sits a woman on a beast of ten heads. So we know the Bible is telling us that Satan's leader will be in the EU and most likely Schroder. The Bible also tells us the time period for the tribualtion. Christ was asked and told us that when the jews return to Isreal that that generation shall not pass before the end. The jews returned in 1948 and according to biblical standards is within a generation...50 years. America is the great babylon (Rev 18) polluting the world with her immorality (Hollywood) greed (Vegas, Atlantic City, Wall Street) and Policies (Wash D.C.). She will be destroyed within one hour. When? Christ told us that when the fig tree begins to bare fruit it shall be near summer. Yugoslavia is a ploy to get American planes and arms out of America...Russia, China, N. Korea, Cuba, Mexico, Arab World will move on us with great speed and bring us to our ruins. The National Tribune (Currently called Stars And Stripes) published an article in the 1850's of three prophetic visions George Washington received at the beginning of the Rev War. The first two we know of as well as their outcome. The thrid vision was of a black cloud covering America from all over the world. America was brought to ruin. Even so, George Washington said that after the war he saw America standing, though deminished. America has lost her way and left her puritan roots. God is not even allowed in school or work. He will return. My fellow Americans. Brace yourselves, the next seven years are going to be very hard and tens of millions of Americans will lose their lives. Understand that God is not doing it because he hates us, indeed he loves us and wants America back as his beacon. Love your children and your neighbors. Help those in need. Now is the time to set your life right with God and allow Christ into your hearts. If believing the Bible is not written by God I urge you to read, "The Bible Code" to convince you that indeed God did write every word of the Bible and now we have scientific proof that he did. Just as a boos dictates to his secretary, God dictated every word to the men who wrote down his guide to living a better life. Russia and China will soon be attacking. The Bible says when the world is calling for peace. I do not know if that means the war in Yugoslavia will be over and the world will be thinking they are at peace or if the world
[CTRL] China Stole Secrets On Clinton Watch!!
-Caveat Lector- Sunday May 9 12:05 PM ET Richardson: China Stole Secrets On Clinton Watch WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Energy Secretary Bill Richardson said Sunday the Chinese government had obtained nuclear secrets during the Clinton presidency -- something the administration had previously denied. Speaking on NBC television's ``Meet the Press'' show, Richardson admitted security breaches had occurred during the Clinton presidency, despite denials by the president. ``There have been damaging security leaks,'' Richardson said. ``The Chinese have obtained damaging information ... during past administrations and (the) present administration.'' In a March news conference, President Clinton denied the Chinese had secured nuclear secrets during his presidency. ``To the best of my knowledge, no one has said anything to me about any espionage which occurred by the Chinese against the labs, during my presidency,'' Clinton said then, referring to allegations of security breaches at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. But The New York Times reported a week ago that counter- intelligence officials had told the Clinton administration in November that China posed an ``acute intelligence threat'' to nuclear arms labs. The Times disclosed in March that a scientist at Los Alamos, Wen Ho Lee, was suspected of helping China obtain arms secrets. China has repeatedly denied the charges and the scientist last week rejected the accusations against him. The Senate intelligence committee said in a report last week that China gained technical information from U.S. companies during satellite launches which will improve its missiles and could threaten the United States. The report capped a 10-month investigation by the committee into the impact on U.S. national security of advanced satellite technology exports to China. Senator Richard Shelby, chairman of the intelligence committee, said Sunday, ``This is probably the most serious espionage we have had in this country in modern times.'' Shelby said his committee's investigation uncovered ``very suspicious banking relationships'' which would need further investigation. The Republican from Alabama said millions of dollars were funneled to a small bank in the United States from China, possibly as political campaign donations. Bob Kerrey, the ranking Democrat on the intelligence committee, agreed there had been leaks at the Los Alamos lab. ``I have no doubt there has been Chinese espionage at these nuclear labs,'' the Nebraska senator said. ``I have no doubt the efforts to reduce the risk of that espionage was sloppy and not well coordinated and as a consequence has been damaging to the people of the United States.'' Despite the breaches, Kerrey said, the threat to Americans was not on the scale suggested by Shelby. ``This is a very serious case of espionage, a very serious breach of security at the labs, but its very important for us not to overestimate the threat,'' he said. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/pl/story.html?s=v/nm/19990509/pl/nuclea r_china_usa_3.html Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- Jim Norman wrote: -Caveat Lector- "Howard R. Davis III" wrote: -Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether they be pro-gun or anti-gun, most people would acknowledge that mankind has certain, Inalienable Rights. Not at all. Rights are a conceptual legal concept. If everybody plays along, you have rights. If most, or even many people don't play along, you have bupkes. There is nothing inalienable about legalisms in the real world. The above is a most revealing statement. It shows that Nurev has the same understanding of rights as did Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and all the other mass murders of the past (and of the future). And not just mass murderers Howard. Everyone who understands the business of power. It's the real bottom line. I never said I condone it. I always point it out for the fools and ideologues who invent unreality. They have no concept of the agreement among mature people to recognize the humanity of others and not treat them as resources to be exploited and killed if they get in the way. Sounds like anarcho-capitalists to me. Sounds like tobacco and gun CEO's. Sounds like Pentagon and Weapons CEO's. Sounds like Elite Politicians. Surely you're not describing me! The very basis of the concept of "rights" comes from our innate understanding that others value their lives and we cannot take that life without doing harm to our very soul. (There has been some postings on this list by a retired military officer about the difficulties in training young men to kill which go into this more deeply). We look at ourselves and others and realize that others have a life which they value as much as we value our own. While Nurev may claim to wish to ban guns for the good of humanity, it is obvious from his replies that this is only a cover. His replies often show a deep hatred for any who disagree with him and often are made up of threats of harm (of course from others, not himself) to that person and an unseemly desire to see that threat of violence come to fruition. Man are you dense or what? I am not threatening you with violence. I am telling you that your philosophy will end in violence. I paint those scenarios dramatically so they penetrate that dense fog of ideological unreality you live in. I wish to avert that violence because I live in this society, and I don't want to go down with it. In an earlier post to this list, I suggested to those who wish to end the "culture of violence" that instead of repealing the 2nd amendment, that the first amendment might be modified to prohibit the showing of violence in the media. Did anyone one of those supposedly so concerned about the "culture of violence" respond? Of course not. They are not interested in this because they, in fact, are happy to see this violence in the media and in our society. They want to see this, because they know that it is necessary for their campaign to disarm the American people. You are a paranoid monomaniac. You invent these looney scenarios to justify your paranoia. When the American people decide to remove guns from their midst, that's when the government will feel empowered to do so. Theoretically, that's their job. By the way, I don't allow my children to play violent videos or go to violent movies because it damages them. It damages many youngsters. But it makes allot of money. So, like cigarettes and guns, that makes it OK. No one has the right to interfere with Free Speech, or Free Enterprise, or your personal freedom to fuck up anything or anyone. What are you going to do? Restrict " free speech " for Hollywood, or restrict 2nd Amendment right to bear arms? Or just let them both be because some 200 year old dead lawyers and landlords and merchants didn't have the ability to see how overgrown and sick their nation would become just 2 centurys hence. How many more people will kill each other with guns just so you can feel ideologically correct? 1000? 10,000? How many? Does anyone doubt that they are happy to hear of the killings? Look what Nurev writes later about the increasing number of people who might join his cause: "Oh yeah??? Wanna bet? This country has one, maybe two more massacres left before it becomes a groundswell". Does that not sound like someone who is looking forward to more such murders? That's a warning of inevitability. Not a desire for carnage. That was a pathetic attempt. You are so self centered that you ( pl ) think we are after you. The intent here is to stop the killing and you and the NRA and some bought politicians are in the way. But every massacre is a nail in the NRA's coffin. Every shot to death citizen, every accidentally killed child brings your time to an end. It's called change. It's called democracy. Live with it. Or not. On several occasions Nurev has threatened his critics with a future revolution of the
[CTRL] NATO Purposely Targeted Chinese Embassy
-Caveat Lector- "RU MILLS": EMBASSY HIT ON PURPOSE == (CNNS, 05/09/99) -- Special correspondent "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) reports on the recent NATO missile attack on the Chinese embassy in Belgrade: --- NATO Purposely Targeted Chinese Embassy By "Ru Mills" 05.08.99 RMNews -- "NATO purposely targeted the Chinese Embassy", says a usually reliable Rumor Mill News Source. "It was done to derail the peace initiative being put forward by the Russians and the Chinese." The Source went on to say that the Big Three socialist leaders, United States, President Clinton, Britain's Prime Minister Blair, and Germany's Chancellor Gerhard Schroder, need to win in Yugoslavia no matter what the costs. The precedent being set by this action will forever put an end to national sovereignty and will usher in the One World Government. Countries will no longer be in charge of what happens inside their borders. An international watch dog group will oversee everything from farming to religion. If a country refuses to comply with international treaties put forth by the United Nations, it will face the Serbian Solution. Jesse Jackson threw a monkey wrench in the Big Three's bid to bring Milosevic to his knees. Not only did Jackson go against his old friend, Bill Clinton and travel to Belgrade, but he did it under the threat of death from NATO bombs. The mission was successful. So successful, in fact, that Jesse Jackson became the senior statesman and diplomat who suggested a course of action which would end the killing. Russian leaders agreed to broker a peace agreement between NATO and Milosevic. When it appeared that the Russian agreement was going to be successful in stopping the "ethnic cleansing" of Kosovo, the Big Three had to act and act fast. The Russian agreement had Kosovo staying part of Serbia, with no autonomy. If this were let to stand it would mean that Milosevic had won. He had successfully cleansed part of Kosovo of Muslims. The Muslims would not be able to turn Kosovo into a Muslim nation with its own language, alphabet, schools, religion, army and police force. The solution proposed by Russia would mean that all countries would be able to control what went on within their own borders. It would mean that California would be able to call out the National Guard or the Army if the Atzlan Liberation Army demanded autonomy for southern California. This solution did not fit into the plan for a one world government with no borders and no national sovereignty. Therefore the plan had to be derailed immediately. With the tensions rising between the United States and China, it was decided that by striking the Chinese Embassy, the already rocky relationship between the two countries would be further inflamed. The more Chinese killed, the better. The second reason behind the choice of the Chinese Embassy was to push China into attacking Taiwan and reclaiming the island of Formosa and making it part of China once again. RMNews will soon be reissuing an article written in 1996 about the coming war with China. The Kosovo autonomy plan being put forth by the Big Three does not sit well with either China or Russia. China still believes Taiwan belongs to them. Russia is still having problems with provinces like Chechnya that want to break away and become their own country. If NATO's Serbian Solution is successful, all groups of ethnic people, no matter where they are living, will be able to break away from their countries and form their own autonomous and independent nations. Imagine what New York City will look like if the Big Three's Serbian Solution is successful. The Puerto Ricans will declare themselves an autonomous nation, as will the Haitians, the Russians, the Italians, the Chinese. Each new nation will draw its own borders and if there are border disputes, wars will erupt. What is the purpose for such planned chaos? Tribal war, the destabilization and depopulation of the world. After several years of chaos, confusion and mass ethnic cleansing, the United Nations will be asked begged to come in and bring stability and order to the world. The Hegelian dialectic theory of an evolving history is being played out here with a New World Order slant. The Thesis is a world full of sovereign nations. The Antithesis is ethnic tribes wanting to breakaway and form their own nations. The Synthesis becomes worldwide wars which cause famine, pestilence, and massive death. After a period of time, the survivors will beg for an end to the wars. Out of the chaos brought about by the Synthesis of the old Thesis and Antithesis comes the new Thesis. The new Thesis will be a world with no borders, no sovereign nations, and
[CTRL] A Reason to use BCC for lists
-Caveat Lector- The following individual asked not to be identified, but she asked me to forward this to anyone who does not bcc online... and to spread the word. Please read this; it is not a joke, not an internet hoax, and not something someone made up to get attention! This person is a member of an on-line group that I belong to. Please pass this on after you have read it, and please make sure you cut n paste this info before you forward it. This is a valuable lesson in using the BCC feature. Late one evening, while online, I received an IM from a gentleman who said he knew me through mutual pals online. We chatted for an hour or so before deciding to keep in touch, as we had so many things in common. I eventually, after a week or so of knowing him, trusted him with my name (first name) and phone number; after all, he knew my friends and I felt he must have been ok if they all liked and knew him. He knew a lot about them, he knew a lot about me, he knew a lot about a lot! He seemed like such a nice person, a pleasant person, and someone whom I felt very comfortable sharing my time online (and on the phone) with. Most of the friends I had made on AOL knew me and I knew them, so I felt quite safe with anyone whom they associated with. We all talked on a regular basis, though we seldom went into chat rooms. One night, a friend from our group of friends invited me to a chat room where several of the friends had gathered and were chatting (it was an open chat in the members category, romance) and we were all chatting when this gentleman popped into the chat room. He popped in and then left quickly. He then blocked his buddy list and sent me an IM. I instantly became curoius as to why he was acting so suspicious. Then, for the first time since I met and started chatting with him, I mentioned him to one of the friends who were in the chat room.. one whom this gentleman claimed assocation with. She was in total awe, she did not know who he was! However, she had experienced the same thing as I had. Only difference was, the guy who sent her an IM claimed to have known her from a former friend online. Things were beginning to look really suspicious. The more she and I chatted, the more suspicious it became. It also became apparent that this guy knew none of us. Suddenly, he dissapeared offline for a few days... then one day he pops back in and sends me an IM saying that we need to talk. He called me at my home and I was very upset, so I asked him how he really found me and why he had felt the need to lie in the first place. This is where you all need to pay attention: He told me that he spotted my screenname on a forward that one of my friends sent to someone else. My screenname is what attracted him. He then used the screenname of others on the list of forwards to acquaint himself with me and various others from our clique of friends. He also used the member directory to look up info about others on the list of forwards, so not to look suspicious. He said he felt it was the only way he would have the chance to get to know me, and the main attraction to me was "My Screenname" because he thought it was "sexy!" I was upset, needless to say, as I had trusted this man with my personal info... such as phone number and name. He also knew where I lived (thanks to the phone bill) and I was now his prey! A few days after having last talked to this person and thinking that was the last of him, I received a phone call at 4:am, it was this man telling me he was in town to see a friend who lived 20 minutes from my house, and wanted to know if I would like to meet him for coffee or breakfast. When I told him it was not such a good idea, he became irate and hung up on me. I immediately called him back (caller ID) and explained to him that my husband was back home (trying to scare him) and to please not be so mad (in fear of him and what he might do). His whole demeanor changed and a different person was on the other end of that phone..not the man whom I had talked to online so many times (and seemed so sweet and caring). He was very uneasy and angry towards me. Telling him that my husband had returned and we were reconciling was a lie, and I told him this to make him think I was not alone! Imagine the feeling I felt in the pit of my stomach when he came back with the following response: "You're a lying bitch, your husband is not there with you...you are alone!" I hung up on him and immediately called the Broward County Sheriff's office and told them what had happened. They sent an officer over to take a report and said that was really all they could do for me at that time. So, I packed a few belongings into my car, while the deputies waited and drove to my sister's home for the night. I was in shock! Fifteen or twenty minutes after I arrived at her home, I received a phone call from this man again! He knew I called the Sheriff and
[CTRL] (just agreeing on the Inalienable Rights of mankind)
-Caveat Lector- I would have just sent this offlist to Howard personally, but I lost the original post. Previous thread: "Why GUNS are here to stay." In a message written some time ago, Howard Davis wrote: The above is a most revealing statement. It shows that Nurev has the same understanding of rights as did Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and all the other mass murders of the past (and of the future). They have no concept of the agreement among mature people to recognize the humanity of others and not treat them as resources to be exploited and killed if they get in the way. This is just the first statement of Howard's that I found myself in complete agreement with. As for the rest of Howard's post, I couldn't agree more, and couldn't have said it better myself. :::begins clapping with Jim Norman:: Tsadowq DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Wow this is weird
-Caveat Lector- Go into Microsoft Word. Type: I'd like Bill Clinton to resign Highlight the sentence. Go up to tools. Option, Thesaurus. See what it says. Is Bill Gates telling us something? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Wackenhut Pt. 1
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Tue, 11 May 1999 06:09:40 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ashley Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: Wackenhut Pt. 1 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The history of Wackenhut Corporation is best described from its own literature. An outdated letter of introduction typed on Wackenhut letterhead once sent to prospective clients provided me with the following profile: (Excerpted) "Wackenhut Corporation had its beginnings in 1954, when George R. Wackenhut and three other former Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation formed a company in Miami, Special Agent Investigators, to provide investigative services to business and industry. "In 1962, Wackenhut operations extended from Florida to California and Hawaii. On January 1, 1966, the company became international with offices in Caracas, Venezuela, through half ownership of an affiliate. "The Wackenhut Corporation became public in 1966 with overthecounter stock sales and joined the American Stock Exchange in 1967. Through acquisitions of subsidiaries and affiliates, now totaling more than 20, and expansion of it contracts into numerous territories and foreign countries, the Wackenhut Corporation has grown into one of the world's largest security and investigative firms. "In 1978 acquisition of NUSAC, a Virginia company providing technical and consulting services to the nuclear industry, brought Wackenhut into the fields of environment and energy management. In 1979, Wackenhut acquired Stellar Systems, Inc., a California company specializing in outdoor electronic security. "The executive makeup of the company reflects the stress Mr. Wackenhut placed on professional leadership. The Wackenhut Corporation is guided by executives and managers with extensive backgrounds in the FBI and other military, governmental and private security and investigative fields. "The principle business of the company is furnishing security and complete investigative services and systems to business, industry and professional clients, and to various agencies of the U.S. Government. "Through a whollyowned subsidiary, Wackenhut Electronic Systems Corporation, the company develops and produces sophisticated computerized security systems to complement its guard services. "Major clients of Wackenhut's investigative services are the insurance industry and financial interests. These services include insurance inspections, corporate acquisition surveys, personnel background reports, preemployment screening, polygraph examinations and general criminal, fraud and arson investigations. "The wide variety of services offered by Wackenhut Corporation also includes guard and electronic security for banks, office buildings, apartments, industrial complexes and other physical structures; training programs in English and foreign languages to apply Wackenhut procedures to individual clients needs; fire, safety and protective patrols; rescue and first aid services; emergency support programs tailored to labormanagement disputes, and predeparture screening programs widely used by airports and airlines. "The company now has some 20,000 employees and maintains close to 100 offices and facilities with operations spread across the United States and extending into Canada, the United Kingdom, Western Europe, the Middle East, Indonesia, Central and South America and the Caribbean." ** On the surface, Wackenhut Corporation seemed innocous enough, but through documents later obtained from Michael Riconosciuto, I learned there was another, darker side to Wackenhut operations, at the Cabazon Indian reservation near Indio, California. Because Indian reservations are sovereign nations and do not come under federal jurisdiction, Wackenhut International had formed a partnership and entered into a business venture with the Cabazon Indians to produce hightech arms and explosives for export to thirdworld countries. This maneuver was designed to evade congressional prohibitions against U.S. weapons being shipped to the Contras and middle eastern countries. In the early 1980's, Dr. John Nichols, the Cabazon tribal administrator, obtained a department of Defense secret facility clearance for the reservation to conduct various research projects. Nichols then approached Wackenhut with an elaborate "joint venture" proposal to manufacture 120mm combustible cartridge cases, 9mm machine pistols, lasersighted assault weapons, sniper rifles and portable rocket systems on the Cabazon reservation and in Latin America. At one point, he even sought to develop biological weapons. Again, through Michael Riconosciuto's files, I later obtained interoffice memorandums and correspondence relating to biological technology, but more on that in chapter 10. Meanwhile, in 1980, Dr. John Nichols obtained the blueprints to Crown Prince Fahd's palace in Tiaf, Saudi Arabia,
[CTRL] Wackenhut Part 3
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:28:21 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ashley Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: Wackenhut Part 3 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At Michael Riconosciuto's trial in Tacoma Washington, Peter Videnieks testified that while working for the Justice Department he had contact with the PROMISE software. He "conducted the competitive contract competitive procurement for acquisition of the services to implement PROMISE."Under cross examination he testified that "it required preparation of a request for proposals issuance of that document to industry ... negotiating, selecting, and awarding the contract. Then after award, administering the contract to see that the work that the government paid for was properly performed." So, essentially, Videnieks administered the Inslaw contract with the government. His employment record included work with the Internal Revenue Service as a revenue officer from 1964 to 1967. From 1967 to 1972 as a contract specialist with NASA. From 1972 to 1973 with Customs as a contract specialist. From 1973 through 1975 back at NASA as a contract specialist. From 1975 through 1981 as a contract specialist with Customs, supervisory at this time. From 1981 through September, 1990, with the Department of Justice as a contract specialist. And from September 1990 through present (January 1992) as a supervisory contract specialist at Customs again. Thomas Olmstead, Riconosciuto's attorney, showed Videnieks the Inslaw affidavit signed by Riconosciuto. Videnieks said he had seen the affidavit prior to court, but testified that he'd never heard of the WackenhutCabazon joint venture and never visited the WackenhutCabazon facility in Indio, California. He also testified that he'd never met Earl Brian. Olmstead asked Videnieks if he knew Robert Chasen [Executive Vice President of Wackenhut]? Videnieks testified that he knew him "by name since he was head of Customs for about a threeyear period, from about 1977 through 1980. I met him once in the line of my duties." Interestingly, according to his resume, Robert Chasen was Commissioner of Customs in Washington D.C. from 1969 to 1977, then Executive Vice President of Wackenhut from 1981 to present (1991). And Peter Videnieks, a contract officer at Customs in Washington D.C. from 1972 to 1974, then again at Customs from 1976 to 1981, said he did not know Robert Chasen. How could that be? Videnieks had worked in the same department with Chasen, off and on, for at least three years. Videnieks also testified that he met Chasen in the line of his duties sometime between 1977 and 1980. Yet, Chasen no longer worked at Customs between 1977 and 1980? Olmstead asked Videnieks to reiterate his position with the PROMISE software. "I worked on the [PROMISE] contract. ... The procurement was assigned to me by a lady named Patricia Rudd. ... My function was to conduct a competitive procurement, negotiate an award of contract, and then administer the contract." Olmstead: "What time frames are we talking when you were ...?" Videnieks: "We're talking about from the day that I reported for duty at Justice, which was in September 1981, through about 1985." Olmstead: "Are you familiar with Hadron Company?" (This was a loaded question because Earl Brian, who Videnieks testified he did not know, owned Hadron Company at the time of the court proceedings.) Videnieks responded, "Yes, I am." Olmstead: "Have you done work for Hadron Corporation in your procurement contract?" Videnieks: "I supervise currently a contract specialist who is administering a contract with Hadron." Olmstead: "Prior to supervising someone, did you personally handle that particular contract?" Videnieks: "I have administered well over a hundred contracts, maybe a couple hundred or several hundred over my career, and I don't recall whether I have or not." Olmstead: "And you have never given a deposition in regards to the Inslaw matter?" Videnieks: "My recall is not that good. Like I said, I have administered hundreds of contracts, and I may or may not have administered one with Hadron." Again Olmstead asked Videnieks if he knew Earl Brian?Videnieks responded, "No, sir." Olmstead: "Do you know who owns Hadron?" Videnieks: "I really don't. I've heard I mean, I don't want to speculate now. He may be an officer with Hadron. He may be." Olmstead: "You don't recall any questions in any depositions at all regarding that?" Videnieks: "I do recall questions along these same lines. But again, from general knowledge, I think he is an officer or has been an officer with Hadron." Olmstead: "In fact, in your deposition, you admitted you knew that he was an officer of Hadron, didn't you?" Videnieks: "I would like to see my transcript from my deposition as to what I said ..." Olmstead went on to question Videnieks about "Modification
[CTRL] Wackenhut, Part 2
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:26:58 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ashley Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: Wackenhut, Part 2 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Danny Casolaro's body was found at 12:30 p.m. in a bloodfilled bath tub by a hotel maid who called the Martinsburg police. The body contained three deep cuts on the right wrist and seven on the left wrist, made by a single edge razor blade, the kind used to scrape windows or open packages.At the bottom of the bathwater was an empty Milwaukee beer can, a paper glass coaster, the razor blade and two white plastic trash bags, the kind used in wastepaper baskets.On the desk in the hotel room was an empty mead composition notebook with one page torn out and a suicide note which read: "To those who I love the most, please forgive me for the worst possible thing I could have done. Most of all, I'm sorry to my son. I know deep down inside that God will let me in." There were no other papers, folders, documents of any sort, nor any briefcase found in the room. Danny's wallet was intact, stuffed with credit cards.The body was removed from the tub by Lieutenant Dave Brining from the Martinsburg fire department, and his wife, Sandra, a nurse who works in the hospital emergency room. The couple, who often moonlighted as coroners, took the body to the Brown Funeral Home where they conducted an examination.Charles Brown then decided to embalm the body that night and go home, rather than come back to work the next day, Sunday. No one in Danny Casolaro's family had been notified of his death at that time, nor had they requested the body be embalmed.When Casolaro's family learned of the death, they insisted it was not a suicide and called for an autopsy and an investigation. Though the body had already been embalmed, an autopsy was performed at the West Virginia University Hospital by a Dr. Frost. The findings indicated that no struggle had taken place because there were no recent bruises on the body. The drugs found in Casolaro's urine, blood and tissue samples were in minute amounts but they were also unexplainable by his brother, Tony, who is a medical doctor. According to Tony Casolaro, Danny did not take drugs or have any prescriptions for the drug traces of Hydrocodone and Tricyclic antidepressant that were found in the body. No pill boxes or written prescriptions were found. Dr. Casolaro searched through his brother's Blue Cross records and found no record of the prescriptions or doctor visits. During the autopsy of the body, Dr. Frost had found lesions within the brain which were characteristic of Multiple Sclerosis. It was possible that Danny was having blurring of vision, but Dr. Frost downplayed the possibility that this contributed to any suicide. Of particular interest, was Frost's observation that the deep razor wounds on Danny's wrists were inflicted "without any hesitation marks." However, the lack of hesitation did not indicate one way or the other whether they were or were not selfinflicted.Investigators and police never found Danny's missing briefcase. On August 6, 1991, Casolaro's housekeeper, Olga, helped Danny pack a black leather tote bag. She remembered he also packed a thick sheaf of papers into a dark brown or black briefcase. She asked him what he had put into the briefcase and he replied, "I have all my papers ..." He had been typing for two days, and as he left the house, he said, "Wish me luck. I'll see you in a couple of days." By August 9th, Casolaro's friends were alarmed. Noone had heard from him and Olga was receiving threatening phone calls at Danny's home. On Saturday, August 10th, Olga received another call, a man's voice said, "You son of a bitch. You're dead."After learning of Danny's death, Olga recalled seeing Danny sitting in the kitchen on August 5th with a "heavy man ... wearing a dark suit. He was a dark man with black hair he turned towards the door, I saw he was darkskinned. I told police maybe he could be from India." At 3:00 p.m. on Friday, the day before Danny's death, Bill Turner, a friend and confidante, met Danny in the parking lot of the Sheraton Hotel to deliver some papers to him. The papers allegedly consisted of two sealed packages which Turner had been keeping in his safe at home for Danny, and a packet of Hughes Aircraft papers which belonged to Turner. Danny had appeard exhuberant to most of his friends before his death, noting that he was about to "wrap up" his investigation of The Octopus. Casolaro was trying to prove that the alleged theft of the Inslaw computer program, PROMISE, was related to the October Surprise scandal, the IranContra affair and the collapse of BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce International). Turner later admitted to police that he had indeed met with Danny on August 9th, but at that time he refused to specify what time and would
[CTRL] Wackenhut Pt. 4, FIDCO and Nichols
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:34:12 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ashley Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:IUFO: Wackenhut Pt. 4, FIDCO and Nichols Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Through one of Michael's contacts, I was able to obtain the corporate documents on F.I.D.C.O. Corporation (First Intercontinental Development Corporation). This formidable organization lead me straight to the head of The Octopus.The Board of Directors of FIDCO consisted of the following principles: (1) Robert Maheu, Sr, Vice President, Director former FBI agent, former CEO of Howard Hughes Operations, senior consultant to Leisure Industries. (2) Michael A. McManus, Director, Vice President and General Counsel to FIDCO former Assistant to the President [Reagan] of the United States at the White House in Washington D.C. (3) Robert Booth Nichols, Director, Sr. Vice President and Chairman of Investment Committee Chief Executive Officer of R.B.N. Companies, International, a holding company for manufacturing and development of high technology electronics, real estate development, construction and international finance. (4) George K. Pender, Director former Director of Pacific Ocean area of Burns Roe, Inc., an international engineering construction corporation with active projects on all seven continents of the world. Senior engineer consultant to Burns Roe, Inc. (5) Kenneth A. Roe, Director Chairman and President of Burns Roe, Inc., International engineers and Constructors, a family corporation owned by Kenneth Roe and family. Major current project of the company is the engineering design and construction of the U.S.A. Fast Breeder Nuclear Reactor Plant in conjunction with Westinghouse Electric Corporation which is responsible for the nuclear system supply of steam. Construction value of present business backlog of Burns Roe, Inc. is in excess of six billion U.S. dollar. (6) Frances T. Fox, Vice President and Director former General Manager of L.A. International Airport, former Director of Aviation for Howard Hughes Nevada operations, now called Summa Corporation, City Manager of San Jose, California. (7) Clint W. Murchison, Jr. Director Owner of the Dallas Cowboys NFL football team. (8) William M. Pender, Director and Sr. Vice President licensed contractor, State of California. (9) Glen R. Shockley, Director Consultant to Fortune 500 Companies in business management. Internationally known as financial consultant in funding. The list of directors was accompanied by a letter dated January 11, 1983 on FIDCO letterhead originating out of Santa Monica, California addressed to Robert Booth Nichols in Marina Del Rey, California. The letter, signed by George K. Pender, briefly referenced a copy of a resolution resulting from a meeting of the Board of Directors of FIDCO. On April 13, 1983, Robert Booth Nichols wrote a letter to Joseph F. Preloznik in Madison, Wisconsin, outlining proposed arms projects, one of which was to build a two story building of approximately 7500 square feet with concrete walls and floors to house the "R D position." (I later found the R D facility referenced in a 1981 Wackenhut Interoffice memorandum as a companion facility to Wackenhut to be constructed on the Cabazon Indian reservation for the assembly of shell casings, propellants, war heads, fuses, combustible cartridge cases and other weapons systems). Nichols wrote to Preloznik, "Should there be any questions with regard to my credibility, verification can be made through F.I.D.C.O. I have enclosed a copy of that appointment." If in fact, F.I.D.C.O. was a vehicle of The Octopus, then the tentacles of its Board of Directors lead straight to the head. Clint Murchison, Jr. of Dallas, Texas was the son of Clint Murchison, Sr. who, according to Dick Russell, author of the book, "The Man Who Knew Too Much," (pp. 521523) was cut from the same political cloth as H.L. Hunt. Wrote Russell: "Back in 1951, after General Douglas MacArthur was relieved of his Korean command by President Truman, H.L. Hunt accompanied MacArthur on a flight to Texas for a speaking tour. Hunt and Murchison were the chief organizers of the proMacArthur forces in Texas. They would always remember the general standing bareheaded in front of the Alamo, urging removal of the `burden of taxation' from enterprising men like themselves, charging that such restraints were imposed by `those who seek to convert us to a form of socialistic endeavor, leading directly to the path of Communist slavery.'" According to Russell, Hunt went on to set up a MacArthurforpresident headquarters in Chicago, spending $150,000 of his own money on the general's reluctant 1952 campaign, which eventually fell apart as MacArthur adopted the strident rhetoric of the right wing. "Still, connections were made," wrote Russell, "Charles Willoughby, for example, was a
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[CTRL] Fwd: S99-73, Day 49, Update 1 (May 11; 0:30AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day.HEADLINES Beijing 1. China's Leader Raises Stakes in Kosovo "Peace Initiative" Montenegro 2. No "Peace Plans" Anymore, Please; Just a Straight Aggression. Thank you. New York 3. Russians and Serbs: A Story of Love and Betrayal Phoenix4. A "Home-made" War Crimes Complaint Filed Budapest 5. All of Budapest Marched for Peace Belgrade 6. "Windows '99" Launched in Serb Capital -- 1. China's Leader Raises Stakes in Kosovo "Peace Initiative" BEIJING, May 10 - Chinese President, Jiang Zemin, has placed a major obstacle in the path of the Kosovo "peace initiative" being pursued by Russia's NWO quislings and the world's leading industrial countries. In his first public reaction to the NATO bombing of China's embassy in Yugoslavia last Friday, Jiang said the UN Security Council could not discuss any peace plans for Kosovo unless NATO first stopped its bombing campaign, the BBC World News reported today. Jiang condemned the NATO action as "absolute gunboat policy." He added that, "with the bombing continuing, it is impossible for the UN Security Council to discuss any plan to solve the problem," he added. Jiang's remarks came in a telephone conversation on Monday (May 10) with the Russian President , Boris Yeltsin, who was sending his Balkans negotiator Viktor Chernomyrdin to Beijing for urgent talks. --- TiM Ed.: As usual, what the establishment western media report is only a part of the story. And here's the part you may not have heard about Following his missions to Washington and Bonn, where Chernomyrdin earned the epithet of the Serb Backstabber-in-Chief (see Special TiM GW Bulletins S99-69. Day 45, Update 1, Item 1, May 7), this friend of Al Gore's, and traitor of Russia's own interests in Chechnya, was supposed to travel to Belgrade to try to sell the Yugoslav president, Slobodan Milosevic, on the bill of goods supposedly agreed to buy the Gee-Eight countries. Well, guess what... Right after the ceremonious (re)declaration of NATO unity in Germany, Chernomyrdin instead flew straight to Moscow. For consultations on some urgent matters to do with his back-stabbing of Serbia. Such as that Germany and Italy apparently weren't going along (see "Ain't Gonna Do There," S99-66, Day 43, Update 1, Item 1, May 5). And now, Yeltsin is apparently sending his Backstabber-in-Chief to China, in the hopes that Chernomyrdin can placate Beijing the way he was hoping to do it to the Serbs in Belgrade. -- 2. No "Peace Plans" Anymore, Please; Just a Straight Aggression. Thank you. MONTENEGRO, May 10 - Meanwhile, ordinary citizens of Yugoslavia are getting tired of duplicitous "peace" proposals which only mean further propagations of war. Here's a tongue-in-cheek letter which TiM received today from a reader in Montenegro, one of two constituent states of Yugoslavia: "There is one accord that I believe is acceptable for Serbia to sign: Surrender. No 'peace plans any more, please! Just surrender agreements. For, then we would all know the truth: The NATO troops are the invaders and conquerors who attacked our state and devastated it, not the not 'peacekeepers.' And since we were weak to resist; and since we had no allies, and since so many many potential allies actually betrayed us... This can be the only way I can explain to my children why there are some foreign soldiers traipsing around our country as if it belongs to them. The only other option is to fight against NATO until they quit. Which may last a very long time. So be it. Just no 'peace plans' any more, please! Make it a straight aggression. Thank you. Keep up the good work, and God be with us." -- 3. Serbia and Russia: A Story of Love and Betrayal (By Tatiana Popova) NEW YORK, May 10 -The western establishment media keep propagating stories about the alleged "traditional friendship" between the "fellow-Orthodox-Christian" countries - Russia and Serbia. Not only are such claims ludicrous in light of Boris Yeltsin's betrayal of the Bosnian Serbs during that country's civil war (see Special TiM GW Bulletins S99-69. Day 45, Update 1, Item 1, May 7). But they are even more preposterous when considered in a wider historical context. Which is why TiM brings you an expert foreign policy paper on the Russo-Serbian relations during the last two centuries. Since the person who wrote this essay is an American working within the NWO establishment, she has opted to have it published under the pseudonym - Tatiana Popova. Voila... "NATOs bombing of Yugoslavia has once again raised the complex question of Russias loyalty to the Serbs. Both nations share an Eastern Orthodox
[CTRL] Fwd: Gold Conspiracy?
There's Gold in Them There Black Helicopters By Aaron L. Task Senior Writer 5/7/99 3:31 PM ET Fact: For the two weeks ended April 6, noncommercial short interest in gold totaled 88,363 contracts, according to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission in Chicago. That was the largest short position in history (and just a fraction of total worldwide short interest). Short interest has declined in subsequent weeks but still remains at extremely high levels, equal to about 10% of total production last year. The Gold Conspiracy Gold Bugs Light Up as They Forecast a Short Squeeze Fact: Michel Camdessus, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, has extolled the virtue of using gold-sale proceeds to pay for debt relief for "heavily indebted poor countries," in the IMF parlance. President Clinton has expressed support for the sale of up to 10 million ounces of the approximately 103 million ounces of gold committed to the fund. To varying degrees, the notion has been seconded by financial and political luminaries such as Vice President Al Gore, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, U.K. Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown and Switzerland National Bank President Hans Meyer. Even German Finance Minister Hans Eicherl says Germany has "relaxed" its once-staunch anti-gold-sale stance. Fact: Last month, Switzerland voted to begin decoupling the Swiss franc from its gold backing. The Swiss central bank could begin selling gold as early as next year, The New York Times reported. Fact: The Gold Antitrust Action Committee, known as GATA, has retained securities law specialist Berger Montague to assist in the "investigation of the alleged manipulation of the gold market," according to a press release from the organization. Bill Murphy, chairman of GATA, believes so-called bullion banks, which include many of Wall Street's biggest firms, have violated the Sherman Antitrust Act by colluding to keep the price of gold down. A senior partner at Berger Montague confirms the firm has been retained by GATA but says "no decision to file a case has been made at this time." He declined to comment further. Fact: Last Tuesday, Murphy met with Rep. Jim Saxton (R., N.J.), vice chairman of the Joint Economic Committee. Congress must approve the proposed IMF gold sale, and Saxton has "taken a strong position of skepticism on the gold-sale issue," according to Christopher Frenze, chief economist to the committee vice chairman. Neither Saxton nor the committee has any position or comment on the allegations made by GATA, Frenze says. "Our focus is directed more at the IMF as an institution and how gold sales would relate to IMF finances and lending." (Those interested in more about Saxton's position should visit www.house.gov/jec.) Fact: Most market players deny there is any cabal corrupting the gold market. And despite Murphy's 25 years as a precious-metals trader, broker and analyst with firms such as the defunct Drexel Burnham Lambert, the former Shearson Lehman and Veneroso Associates, many believe his charge is, to be polite, meritless. An English Surprise Knocks Prices "I do not think his views hold much water," says Philip Klapwijk, managing director at Gold Fields Mineral Services in London. "The U.S. Treasury and Fed are happier with gold at a certain level, but it's equally wrong to suggest they are in favor of excessively low gold, which sends a deflationary signal. It's a big leap to say there is intervention or a systematic campaign." Indeed, without Oliver Stone, it is a huge (and ultimately unprovable) leap to say IMF gold-sale proposals are part of some vast, multiwinged conspiracy involving the top levels of government and so-called bullion banks (among others). Yet today, the price of gold tumbled $7.60 an ounce to $283.10 after the Bank of England, much to the gold community's surprise, announced its plans to sell up to 125 tons, or almost 60% of its reserves, between now and March 2000. Before the announcement, gold had crept up to the high end of its several-month-long trading range of $275 to $290 an ounce. Already unmoved by the critics, the Bank of England's announcement today stiffened Murphy's resolve. "This is right on cue," he says. "Yesterday, the bonds got clobbered and the gold market was surging and getting close to the point where gold borrowings could go under water. Then out of nowhere, right on cue, the BOE comes out. It's unbelievable." And other gold market participants are becoming increasingly outspoken about the action (or lack thereof) in the once-precious metal. Barrick Gold (ABX:NYSE) Chairman Peter Munk railed against central banks and the IMF for generating "enormous negativism" in the market at the company's annual meeting Tuesday. Munk also criticized hedge funds and other speculators for using rumors and the opaqueness of the gold market to exaggerate weakness in gold prices. Previously, Nicky Oppenheimer and Bobby Godsell, chairman and