[CTRL] WND: Filegate case nets 25,000 e-mails
From: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_sperry_news/2623_xnspy_filegate_c.shtml WorldNetDaily SATURDAY, JUNE 24, 2000 Filegate case nets 25,000 e-mails White House search nets big stash, but lawyers want 30-day 'review' WASHINGTON - Although a court-ordered search of White House archives has produced a stunning 25,000 e-mails related to Judicial Watch's Filegate case, White House lawyers refuse to turn the evidence over, arguing they need another month to "review" it. Responding to a 20-day deadline imposed early this month by a U.S. District judge, Justice Department attorneys yesterday informed Judicial Watch of their search results. The stash includes the e-mails of first lady Hillary Clinton and several current and former top White House officials, including Maggie Williams, George Stephanopoulos, Harold Ickes, Jane Sherburne, Cheryl Mills, Michael McCurry, Joe Lockhart, Marsha Scott and Sidney Blumenthal. E-mails relevant to the misuse of fired Travel Office chief Bill Dale's FBI files were also part of the search, as were e-mails tied to Kathleen Willey and Linda Tripp. "This is significant because it shows the large volume of e-mail in the White House relevant to Filegate and related matters such as Kathleen Willey and Linda Tripp," Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton told WorldNetDaily. He says James Gilligan, the White House's lead defense attorney in the $90 million privacy-rights lawsuit, told Judicial Watch that it couldn't see the 25,000 e-mails for another 30 days, because lawyers need time to "review the documents." "This is obviously a delaying ploy to buy time to take out the incriminating evidence," Fitton charged. He says Judicial Watch on Monday will file a motion with the court to oppose the delay. --- Paul Sperry is Washington bureau chief for WorldNetDaily. © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com, Inc. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] URGENT -- Hostettler Amendment On House Floor!! (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:59:21 -0400 From: Weldon Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: URGENT -- Hostettler Amendment On House Floor!! URGENT -- Hostettler Amendment On House Floor!! Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 7:04 PM by Neal Knox The Commerce, Justice and State Appropriations Bill is now being debated and will continue until at least midnight tonight. Rep. Hostettler's amendment to prevent the Justice Department from suing gun companies to enforce the SW agreement, or to take similar actions, will be voted on either late tonight or early tomorrow -- as Neal Knox discusses below. Your Congressman will be there, call him tonight! June 22 Neal Knox Report -- According to which newspapers you read, what is now called "President Clinton's gun-safety deal with Smith Wesson" either suffered a defeat or won a victory in last night's votes on Rep. John Hostettler's (R-Ind.) amendments to the Housing and Urban Development appropriations bill. Mr. Hostettler is going to take another shot either tonight or tomorrow, with an amendment to be offered on the Commerce, Justice State appropriations bill. There were two votes last night, the first, to prohibit HUD from continuing its efforts to get cities and public housing authorities to give preferential treatment to Smith Wesson, passed by 218-207. The second, and more important amendment, which would have prohibited HUD from being involved in enforcing the SW agreement, failed 219-206. The agreement SW signed, and is now attempting to back away from, calls for an extra-legal oversight body to assure that all the many provisions in the agreement are enforced. It is to be composed of government agencies and anti-gun groups, and most assuredly will cause all sorts of mischief if it is ever put into play. Though the press has talked about the SW agreement's trigger lock and "smart gun" provisions, it also goes into gun design, sales and distribution areas that affect all products sold by SW dealers, regardless who made the guns. The oversight body would be in the position of writing law as well as regulations, and is unquestionably the most dangerous provision of the agreement. NRA stayed out of last night's fight, reportedly trying to avoid making Speaker Dennis Hastert unhappy by legislating on appropriations bills -- which is routinely done by both sides of the gun debate. The appropriations bill coming up tonight, which will provide funding for the Justice Department, would prohibit DOJ from spending any of its money to sue SW or any other other signer for failure to comply with the agreement. CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN. Ask him or her to support Mr. Hostettler's amendment. Even Congressmen who aren't strong on gun rights should vote to stop the Administration's effort to take law-making powers away from the Congress. Last night, opponents kept claiming Mr. Hostettler was trying to destroy SW. Tonight's amendment makes it clear that the Indiana lawmaker is trying to help SW and the rest of the gun industry -- and NRA members and other consumers. NRA shouldn't be sitting out this fight -- even if they might make the Speaker unhappy. They should remember that he's the one who has been pushing to get the Juvenile Justice bill, and its package of gun provisions, out of the House-Senate conference committee. --- Yesterday, President Clinton again demanded passage of his package of gun laws in the Juvenile bill while touting a new BATF report on "illegal gun trafficking." BATF says that from 1996 to 1998 about 84,000 guns were "diverted" into illegal sales by crooked gun dealers, many through gun shows, BATF's self-serving study is based on their investigations, which too often consist of trying to examine the records of all dealers while searching for illegal sales, instead of tracking guns misused in crime back to their source. To begin receiving Neal Knox's bi-monthly newsletter, send a contribution of $25 or more to The Firearms Coalition, 7771 Sudley Rd. No. 44, Manassas, VA 20109. For current news, call 1-900-225-3006 (89 cents per minute) or visit: http://www.NealKnox.com (free). = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by
[CTRL] The World Government Constitution: Proof that Socialists are Fools.
The World Government Constitution: Proof that Socialists are Fools. [Part 1] By Antonia Feitz 1/6/00 For the past twenty years or so, a document has been floating around the world gathering signatures. It's called "The Constitution of the Federation of Earth". It was first ratified at the second session of the World Constituent Assembly in Innsbruck in 1977 and was prepared by "a broad global representation of qualified people" - who haven't bothered to put their names to it. Enough said. Now while it is an ineffably silly document, it is none the less the authoritarian blueprint for the first world government. World government? Surely only conspiracy theorists believe there's a plan for world government? Yes, that's what the politicians and the mainstream media have been saying until very recently. But now that it's imminent they're coming clean, and it's now chic to talk about world government, global citizens, the global village, and the global commons etc. Read the depressing details in "Our Global Neighbourhood: the Report of the Commission on Global Governance". The co-chairs were Ingvar Carlsson and Shridath Ramphal. But back to the Constitution. The Preamble begins: "Realizing that Humanity today has come to a turning point in history and that we are on the threshold of an [sic] new world order which promises to usher in an era of peace, prosperity, justice and harmony -" Well, that gives the flavour of the entire Constitution. While such a sentence might bring credit to an idealistic eight year old, it's a bit alarming that supposedly mature, educated adults who are drawing up a constitution for world government could write such utopian drivel. There is absolutely no reason to suppose that man's nature has changed so drastically that we are about to enter any golden age. On the contrary, the evidence of the past twenty years - during which the Constitution has been circulating - has seen an escalation of hostilities throughout the world. External intervention by UN peacekeepers has not been useful, and in fact has exacerbated and/or prolonged conflict. Is there peace in Kosovo? Sierra Leone? No. Why? Because you can't impose peace: just look at Northern Ireland or the Levant. The other sentences of the Preamble are similarly juvenile and full of apocalyptic green propaganda: "Conscious of our obligation to posterity to save Humanity from imminent and total annihilation -" From what they don't say. Apparently you've just got to take it on trust that we're on the brink of "imminent and total annihilation". It's a good scare though; it'll win the greens over for sure. Such useful idiots will suffer any ignominy and loss of freedom to "save the planet". Young idealists and socialists often present their opinions as facts. So do the anonymous authors of the Constitution: "Conscious of the inescapable reality that the greatest hope for the survival of life on earth is the establishment of a democratic world government -" . "Inescapable reality"? Excuse me, but not everybody agrees. And who says the survival of life on earth is threatened anyway? The likes of Paul Ehrlich? They've made successful careers out of being consistently wrong. Though it might shock the global socialists, many people think that minding your own business would go a long way to establishing genuine peace in the world. The Preamble ends with this triumphalist sentence: "We, the citizens of the world, hereby resolve to establish a world federation to be governed in accordance with this constitution for the Federation of Earth". And what a lulu it is. The broad functions of the proposed world government are set out in Article 1. True to its socialist genesis, the world government plans to regulate every aspect of life. Apart from preventing war, securing disarmament, resolving territorial and "other" disputes , our globalist masters plan to protect human rights which now include mandatory Western-style democracy and even equal opportunities. They also plan to obtain "the conditions required ... for diminishing social differences". It's typical of socialists that while simultaneously extolling diversity, they legislate for uniformity. They loathe differences. Of course they're going to regulate trade, communications, transport, currency, standards, the "use of world resources", and "other global and international processes" - that latter one is nicely open-ended, isn't it. And equally of course they're going to protect the environment to keep Earth "a safe, healthy and happy home for humanity". It's hard to credit that supposed adults could write such infantile nonsense. But it's indicative of their mentality: clearly they have no conception of personal autonomy let alone human dignity. Article 2 is concerned with the basic structure of the World Federation and Government. It claims the world government will be non-military (a lie); democratic (another lie); that sovereignty will reside in all the people (a very
[CTRL] JW: Miscarriage of Justice
Judicial Watch FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 23, 2000 Contact: Richard Tomkins (202) 646-5172 MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE! Eleventh Circuit Lacks Courage To Review Its Prior Decision UNFORTUNATELY, GONZALEZ FAMILY LAWYERS HAD NOT PRESENTED KEY DOCUMENTS TO THE COURT (Washington, DC) Today the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit refused to review its prior petition upholding Attorney General Janet Reno's decision not to provide an asylum hearing to Elian Gonzalez. A lawsuit by Judicial Watch recently uncovered INS documents showing that the Clinton-Gore Administration and Castro had predetermined Elian's fate without regard for the rule of law. These documents had been provided to the lawyers of the Gonzalez family before their latest brief was filed with the appeals court. Inexplicably, little of the documentation was mentioned, much less used as evidence for the record. As a result, Judicial Watch attempted an emergency effort to submit the documents to the appeals court through an amicus curiae, or friend of the court, brief. Apparently, these documents were not considered by the appeals court -- perhaps because they were not substantially provided by the lawyers for the Gonzalez family themselves -- who had legal standing to do so. "Judicial Watch will continue to be supportive of the lawyers for the Gonzalez family with regard to their "hoped-for" appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. However, this time the public-interest watchdog hopes that they will use all available means to win the case, and save little Elian from a future of despair in Cuba's Communist cesspool," stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. "Today was truly a dark day in American legal history, since it appears that the court followed the polls, not the law," added Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] EMBOLDENED FEDS SWING ANTITRUST TURRETS TOWARD VISA, MASTERCARD
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: EMBOLDENED FEDS SWING ANTITRUST TURRETS TOWARD VISA, MASTERCARD Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:52 AM From: Howard Rothenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: EMBOLDENED FEDS SWING ANTITRUST TURRETS TOWARD VISA, MASTERCARD - SNETNEWS Mailing List EMBOLDENED FEDS SWING ANTITRUST TURRETS TOWARD VISA, MASTERCARD The U.S. government, fresh from its victory in the Microsoft case, accused the Visa and MasterCard credit card networks of violating antitrust law and blocking competition through exclusionary tie-ups with banks in opening arguments at a federal trial yesterday, according to Reuters. (http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,36945,00.html) Visa and MasterCard, which control more than 75 percent of U.S. credit card sales, do not truly compete with each other, U.S. Justice Department lawyer Melvin Schwarz told a packed federal courtroom in New York. They also thwart rivals, barring them from working with their member banks, he alleged. "The government will show defendants have not bothered to innovate or have been slow to innovate, and continue to do so," Schwarz said. News stories did not state what makes the Justice Department experts in credit industry innovation. The government's revitalized penchant for suing companies that "thwart rivals" or are "slow to innovate" can only lead to more trouble. In "It's Time To Reexamine Antitrust Legislation," D.T. Armentano writes that "Microsoft's latest difficulties with the U.S. Department of Justice reveal the absurdity of attempting to apply 19th century antitrust law to a 21st century computer and telecommunications marketplace." (http://www.cato.org/dailys/11-13-97.html) In "Rewriting the Rules for High-tech Antitrust," Senior Fellow in Constitutional Studies Robert A. Levy examines a "post-modern world of high-tech antitrust, where big is once again bad, lofty profit margins are a wake-up call to government regulators, executives are brought to heel for aggressively worded e-mails, pricing too high is monopolistic, pricing too low is predatory, propping up politically wired competitors is the surreptitious aim, bundling products that consumers want is illegal, and successful companies are rewarded by dismemberment." (http://www.cato.org/dailys/11-03-99.html) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WANT YOUR GUN RIGHTS BACK? READ THIS (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:45:02 -0400 From: Weldon Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WANT YOUR GUN RIGHTS BACK? READ THIS WANT YOUR GUN RIGHTS BACK? READ THIS Ladies and Gentlemen: We believe it will be worth your time to read all of this message. THE COMPLAINT For decades gun owners complained that we were losing the Second Amendment war because our point of view and our arguments were never heard in the newspapers, on the radio, or on television. They complained that gun owners and gun rights organizations always "preached to the choir", and that their message never got out to the public. THE RESPONSE -- FINALLY But now our message IS getting out to the public. AGGRESSIVELY. You've probably heard of us by now: Citizens Of America, a non-profit organization that is running a NATIONAL PRO-GUN media campaign. That's ALL COA does: no lobbying, no PAC funds, nothing but producing these ads and getting them out to the GENERAL PUBLIC. And until now, you never heard ANYTHING like our hard- hitting, emotion-directed radio and print ads in the mass communications media. If you want to HEAR the radio ads, continue reading and then come back and click here: http://www.citizensofamerica.org/radio.htm If you want to SEE the print ads, click here: http://www.citizensofamerica.org/print.htm NOT EVEN A YEAR OLD COA is only nine months old, but already the radio ads have run in 42 states on over 270 radio stations. At any given moment, thanks to people like you and patriots in the broadcast industry, they are running RIGHT NOW somewhere in the country, on the radio and on cable television. Thanks to patriots in the publishing industry, the print ads have been distributed in the tens of thousands. COA is funded by people like YOU. COA has no income- producing fund to draw on, no memberships that we constantly renew, no wealthy private or corporate backers (yet), no $100-million plus NRA-size budget (yet). COA will exist only as long as citizens like you donate to the campaign. We hope to win this war and put ourselves out of business as soon as possible. But in any case, we will not exist one day longer than we can pay to exist, and right now we need funds to continue. LET COA FIGHT FOR YOU Remember: only COA focuses on getting the gun rights message to the GENERAL PUBLIC. And our messages aim at their guts and hearts. You can help us. For the next year, devote 33 cents a day to continue this one-of-a-kind national campaign. That's ten dollars a month. $120 for the year. If you think we've doing a good job, then give us 33 cents a day next year. If you've already donated something this year, please consider bringing the total up to $120. WE ACT NOW OR SUFFER LATER Does $120 a year seem like a lot? Three or four years from now, when the news media, the federal government and state governments have inundated the public with enough unanswered lies to turn them against you, enough unanswered propaganda to convince them to vote for more bans on guns and the freedom to own and shoot guns, you'll wish you had spent twenty times that amount. If you simply cannot afford $120, then donate what you can. (We do offer incentives: like a free Kydex holster from Springbok, Inc. if you donate at least $75. Come back and read this when you finish the rest of this message: http://www.citizensofamerica.org/programs.htm ) WE USED TO HATE... ...to ask for money. It's not enjoyable. But that changed when we saw how much irritation these ads are causing our enemies. And when we get emails and letters from people who USED to be anti-gun, but changed their minds when they became aware of the issues that COA ads bring up. Now we ask for money because we absolutely believe we can make a difference. OUR CURRENT SITUATION Over the last nine months we've SPENT your past donations- -as efficiently as possiblekeeping this ad campaign going. We work out of donated office space, have a minimal staff, and use volunteers or subcontractors for everything else. These ultra-efficient methods have worked so far, and we intend to continue this way. But because our donor base is still in its infancy, with many gun owners and gun-related businesses still unaware of what we're doing, and because this is a CONTINUING campaign, we're nearly out of funds and are in danger of having to cease operations. So if you want to help, NOW is the time. Please -- DO NOT count on someone else to donate for you. You can donate with a credit card by scrolling to the bottom of our homepage at: http://www.citizensofamerica.org Or send a check to Citizens Of America, 2118 Wilshire Blvd. #447, Santa Monica, CA 90403. STILL UNDECIDED? No, COA isn't the ONLY answer to winning this war. GOA, JPFO, KeepAndBearArms.com, 2AnewsTeam and others are performing valuable functions. But COA alone devotes all its resources on an essential but almost totally neglected task:
[CTRL] [WACO TRAIL UPDATE] Firing at shadows: the raid on Waco (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:50:17 -0700 From: American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WACO TRAIL UPDATE] Firing at shadows: the raid on Waco Firing at shadows: the raid on Waco http://www.smh.com.au/news/0006/22/world/world05.html Waco Plaintiffs Wrap Up Testimony http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/2622/us/waco_trial_22.html Branch Davidian raid heard on 911 tape http://dallasnews.com/waco/99776_waco.html http://dallasnews.com/waco/99956_wacowire.html Agents admit firing blindly into windows http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/metropolitan/584031 The Branch Davidian Trial by Egon Richard Tausch E.R. Tausch was a court observer during the Waco trial. This article is a description of what events he witnessed during the trial. http://www.shadeslanding.com/firearms/waco.tausch.html Judge orders anonymous jury in Branch Davidian trial 12/14/93 http://www.morningnews.com/specials/waco/trial/trial5.htm Branch Davidian trial notable for omissions Decisions were part of lawyers' strategies 02/22/94 By Lee Hancock / The Dallas Morning News http://www.morningnews.com/specials/waco/trial/trial94.htm Branch Davidian Trial Transcripts http://start.at/mt.carmel REVELATION 10:7 but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel when he shall begin to sound the mystery of God should be fineshed as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. http://issop.tzo.com/users/rorrim/koresh.htm Was Vector Data Systems BOUGHT OFF by the BATF? http://issop.tzo.com/users/rorrim/vector.htm Six-member jury picked for Waco suit against U.S. The judge asked potential jurors if they had lost a child or been in a dispute with the government. By Sherri Chunn ASSOCIATED PRESS http://web.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/06/20/national/WACO20.htm WHY WACO? APFN WHY WACO PAGES LINKS: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacopg.htm + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + If you would like to pledge a contribution to APFN: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/contributions.htm + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Big response to Mark Swett, and a veritable compendium of materials that Mr. Bradford and Judge Smith most assuredly DO NOT want you to see. http://waco93.com/wwwboard/messages/141.html/a Judges cut terms of 5 Davidians 6/6/00 http://dallasnews.com/waco/91406_davidians_06te.html Juror in sect members' federal trial applauds Supreme Court decision 6/6/00 http://dallasnews.com/waco/91538_jury_tex06.ART.html WE WANT A CITIZENS INVESTIGATION - NEED FUNDING! ~~~CONTACT~~~ David Hall, Producer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] WACO INCIDENT - INVESTIGATIVE VIDEO PROVES CS GAS KILLED THE CHILDREN - Tel: 580-767-8827 - FAX: 767-8846 http://www.kpoc-tv.com Take a moment to picture this... http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/picturethis.html REBUILD THE CHURCH http://www.rebuildthechurch.com Frozen Courts And WACO In Mind http://home.earthlink.net/~mahlers/womp7.htm Waco -- Operation Showtime http://www.ameriroots.com/issues/waco.html Waco - For the Children http://www.alamanceind.com/nation/nation_6.html Branch Davidian Trustees Message Board: http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb669944 *** WACO - Please take a moment to picture this... http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/picturethis.html Rebuild Mt. Carmel - Alex Jones http://www.infowars.com A couple of Faces from the Waco Holocaust http://208.138.42.193/forum/a37e95bfe7c15.htm?; The Konformist Waco The Drug Mafia http://www.konformist.com/vault/wacodrug.htm * The US military was at Waco The initial reaction of virtually every person who hears about Clark's involvement in the attack on the Mt. Carmel Center of the Branch Davidians outside of Waco, Texas is surprise and/or disbelief: "I thought it was an ATF/FBI operation that went wrong and all the military did was lend a few tanks." http://www.brasscheck.com/clarkatwaco.html WACO and the U.S. MILITARY---the UNHOLY THREEE, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Webster Hubbell, and Vincent W. Foster,Jr. Sherman Skolnick's Report http://www.skolnicksreport.com/waco.html WACO MASSACRE ARCHIVES 1999 http://prorev.com/waco.htm ASHES OF WACO (THE) http://rampages.onramp.net/~djreavis/ WACO SOUND FILES 911 TAPES EXCERPTED http://rampages.onramp.net/~djreavis/sndclips.html CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS http://rampages.onramp.net/~djreavis/Congress.html EORONETH ON WACO http://members.tripod.com/~Eoroneth/koresh.html Mt. Carmel (Branch Davidian Trustees - Website) Email: "Mt Carmel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://start.at/mt.carmel http://homepages.go.com/~wikk3/hollings.htm#other Background During the 1993 assault, standoff, and siege at Waco, Texas between members of the Branch Davidian Church and BATF, FBI, and U.S. and foreign military forces, deliberate interference to various
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: VANGUARD: Veepstakes; or, How to Blow an Election if You're Not Really Careful
no time to open attachments anymore. RW - Original Message - From: "Kris Millegan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 9:03 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: VANGUARD: Veepstakes; or, How to Blow an Election if You're Not Really Careful A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] why napoleon should have won
USEFUL ENGLISH SYSTEM CONVERSIONS/UNITS Ratio of an igloo's circumference to its diameter = Eskimo Pi 2.4 status miles of intravenous surgical tubing at Yale Univer-sity Hosptial - 1. I.V. League 2000 pounds of Chinese soup = Won Ton I millionth mouthwash = 1 micro-scope Speed of a tortoise breaking the sound barrier - Mach Turtle Time it takes to sail 220 years at 1 nautical mile per hour - knot-furlong 365.25 days of drinking low-calorie beer because it's less filling = lite year 16.5 feet in the Twilight Zone = 1 Rod Serling 1/2 large intestine = 1 semicolon 1000 aches = 1 megahertz Weight an evangelist carried with God = 1 billigram Basic unit of laryngitis = 1 hoarse power Shortest distance between two jokes = a straight line Time between slipping on a peel and smacking the pavement - 1 bananosecond. 1/2 bath = 1 demijohn 453.6 graham crackers = 1 pound cake Given the old adage "a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step", the first step of a one-mile journey = 1 Milwaukee Useful metric Conversions: 1 million microphones = 1 megaphone 1 million bicycles = 2 megacycles 365.25 days = 1 Unicycle 2000 mockingbirds = two kilomockingbirds 10 cards =- 1 decacards 1 kilogram of falling figs = 1 Fig Newton 1000 grams of wet socks = 1 Liter Hosen 1 millionth of a fish = 1 microfiche 1 trillion pins = 1 terrapin 1 million billion piccolos = 1 gigolo 10 rations = 1 decoration 100 rations = 1 C-ration 10 millipedes = 1 centipede 3-1/3 tridents = 1 decadent 10 monologue = 5 dialogues 5 dialogues = 1 decalogue 2 monograms = 1 diagram 8 nickels - 2 paradigms 2 wharves = 1 paradox 100 Senators = not 1 decision A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reference Lizzie Borden - 20 whacks with an axe and from what I read I would not have blamed here. One recent TV movie hinted Lizzie's sister did it. Such a brutal crime for two sweet ladies hard to believe. If your only information regarding the Borden murders is via movies, your knowledge is sorely lacking. By the way, it wasn't '40 Whacks', the children's ditty not withstanding... Emma, Lizzie's older sister, wasn't home that day...she had left to stay with friends at the shore a week before...so how could she have been in two places at once? Lizzie was seen shortly before the murders outside in the yard (she testified she'd been out in the barn when the murders occurred), just minutes after her father came home from work; it was only minutes after her father had been murdered when she called the maid downstairs to tell her of her (Lizzie's) father being murdered...Lizzie was composed, wearing the same dress she had worn all morning, and didn't have any blood on her self or her clothes... The murder weapon was never found (altho the Fall River police did finally take one broken ax from the house that was later claimed by the prosecution to have been the murder weapon even though there were no traces of blood on it and the broken handle had obviously been broken for some time because it wasn't a new break)... So how could Lizzie have given her father 11 whacks with an ax, causing blood to splatter on the wall behind the father and not get any blood on herself, and be able to successfully hide the murder weapon in a very tiny house? There was only a 20 minute time frame for Andrew Borden to have been murdered in, which makes it almost impossible for Lizzie to have killed her father... The mob cried Give us Barabas..while Judas gave the kiss of death - the informer? It was that Italian mob all the time? "Give us Barrabas" is a legend, nothing more. There is no evidence that Barrabas even existed. And the Roman authorities would never have given up a prisoner condemned to be crucified because the residents of Jerusalem asked them to. Those condemned to be crucified were condemned of high crimes and misdemeanors against the Roman state, and wouldn't have been pardoned because a rabble asked... "The kiss of death"...? Again, Jesus' whole reason for being was as a sacrifice for our collective sins...in other words, God's plan would have been meaningless if Jesus had lived to a ripe old age and died in His sleep of natural causes So everyone that factored in Jesus' 'betrayal' was part of God's plan...and that includes Judas... But there are some clues that the commonly accepted 'facts' of Judas are skewed to present a picture that is not quite accurate... In one part of the New Testament it's claimed Judas hanged himself...in another part it mentions he was found with his throat cut... Hard to cut one's throat and then hang oneself, eh? But in the bible too, they do say The Camels Are Coming. What book and verse? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati, Talmud, Marx, Jesuit trained Clinton ... et al
From: "David Sutherland" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aleisha - You KNOW ALL THIS stuff below - REALLY! (ggg) you wrote: "Screw them all...get that bible and find out who really wrote it and whyeven Marx knew it was sheer opium and mind control" Marx in fact wrote that "religion" not the 'bible', was the "opiate" not the 'opium', of the "people" not of 'mind control'. David, you're referring to KARL Marx, when it should be obvious Aleisha gets her/his stuff from Groucho... ;-) June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: CIA Blocks Manuscript of Former Operative
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52568-2000Jun23.html CIA Blocks Manuscript Of Former Operative By Vernon Loeb Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, June 24, 2000; Page A04 The Central Intelligence Agency is refusing to allow a flamboyant former operative to publish portions of a manuscript about his 14-year spy career, saying numerous passages in the book contain classified information. The CIA's simmering dispute with former operative Bob Baer erupted last week when CIA security officers arrived at the downtown office of Baer's attorney, Victoria Toensing, a former Justice Department official, and picked up all copies of a letter Toensing had written to the CIA on Baer's behalf. CIA officials contended that the letter contained classified information, including a list of the disputed subjects in Baer's nonfiction manuscript, and should not have been circulated outside secure government facilities, CIA spokesman Bill Harlow said. Harlow added that Toensing's son, Brady C. Toensing, an attorney in the firm, agreed to delete a copy of the letter from a computer drive at the law office. Baer could not be reached yesterday for comment. Neither Victoria Toensing nor her son was available for comment. Baer, who left the CIA in 1997, appeared as a consultant on the CBS News program "60 Minutes" three weeks ago and lent credibility to the account of an Iranian defector who claimed to have documentary evidence that Iran was behind the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am jetliner over Lockerbie, Scotland, and the 1996 attack on a U.S. military housing complex in Saudi Arabia. CIA and FBI officials subsequently concluded that the defector, who identified himself as a high-ranking Iranian intelligence officer named Ahmad Behbahani, was an impostor who lacked basic knowledge of Iran's intelligence apparatus. In 1997, Baer was the mysterious intelligence officer identified during Senate hearings as "Bob from the CIA" after he secretly told a friend on the staff of the House intelligence committee about the unusual efforts of Roger Tamraz, an oil pipeline promoter and Democratic Party donor, to secure an audience at the Clinton White House. When Tamraz's efforts to curry favor at the White House became a scandal, the CIA's inspector general began investigating Baer for improperly contacting Congress, prompting his friends at the agency and on Capitol Hill to view him as a convenient scapegoat. If all that weren't enough fodder for a book, Baer also played a key role in helping a group of Iraqi dissidents led by Ahmed Chalabi, chairman of the Iraqi National Congress (INC), plan a direct assault on Iraq's army from a safe haven in northern Iraq in March 1995. The Iraqis referred to the attack as "the Bob plan." But the Clinton administration backed away, ordering Baer to tell Chalabi that the United States was withdrawing its support for any invasion, a move that split two Kurdish groups backing Chalabi and ultimately led to a massacre of INC soldiers by Iraqi forces the following year. These and other episodes from Baer's career were recounted in the manuscript he submitted in December to the CIA's Publication Review Board for clearance. The PRB is responsible for making sure all current and former CIA employees abide by lifetime secrecy agreements. Those agreements require them to submit for review anything related to intelligence that they intend to publish or broadcast. After negotiating with the PRB in recent months over passages the board refused to clear for publication, Baer filed an appeal earlier this month with executive director David Carey, the official empowered under CIA regulations to rule on disputes involving the review board. Once the executive director rules, the next level of appeal is to the federal courts. "There are portions of [the manuscript] which we believe to be classified, and we were working with him to find ways for him to tell his story without damaging national security," Harlow said. In the past five years, he added, the PRB has cleared 1,400 manuscripts of books, articles and screenplays and generated four appeals to the executive director. The CIA has a history of zealously enforcing agreements requiring prepublication review of any written or oral statements regarding intelligence beyond "spontaneous" remarks made to journalists or in public forums. In its most celebrated dispute involving prepublication review, the CIA sued former operative Frank Snepp over "Decent Interval," his best-selling 1977 account of how the CIA and the State Department bungled the evacuation of Saigon and abandoned thousands of loyal South Vietnamese. Snepp took the case all the way to the Supreme Court, which upheld the secrecy agreements and said the CIA could seize all of Snepp's profits from the book. © 2000 The Washington Post Company
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from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ - Hacking for Jesus Hole in Slot Machine Software Creates Ruckus Normally we only use that hole to pay off politicians. EDMONTON, Alberta -- WMS Gaming of Chicago is suing an Edmonton man for $10 million, alleging that he threatened to publicize a software flaw in its slot machines that allowed players to consistently win large amounts of money. The company filed suit in the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench in late February after Zues Yaghi, an Edmonton software consultant, began to post information about the software glitch on the Internet. The flaw came to light after a publication ban on the suit was lifted in court earlier this week. The flaw may easily have cost the slot machine manufacturer $50,000 a day, Yaghi said in an interview. But lawyers for WMS estimate the losses at between $1-2 million, because they say some Edmonton gamblers visited three states in the U.S. between December 1999 and February 2000, where they used the flaw to win at gaming. In Alberta alone, some 300 machines were affected. WMS Gaming is one of the largest manufacturers of slot machines in the world, with annual revenues in 1999 of $125.9 million. The flaw involves players doubling their bets on an electronic poker game in conjunction with several other commands. Yaghi said he first discovered the flaw in December, doing what he called "field intrusion testing," a technique he described as probing functions on a machine for weaknesses. Yaghi said tapping on the "draw" button as the last credit registered would get players into what he believed was a so-called Easter egg. Easter eggs are deliberately inserted pieces of code meant to produce a hidden option for users. Normally, Easter eggs are harmless mini-games or puzzles. Yaghi demonstrated the flaw for Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission officials last December. Within five minutes he emptied a single slot machine of about $600 three times. His problems began when Yaghi offered his services to WMS Gaming as a consultant for $250,000. WMS counter-offered with about $50,000. The counter-offer enraged Yaghi, according to Edmonton lawyer Mark Lesniak, who has been retained by WMS Gaming. Yaghi began describing the glitch on Internet message boards in late February. He wrote that he was "amazed to discover a huge open door in the programming of these slot machines. I can literally empty thousands of dollars in minutes from these machines." Yaghi said in the interview he has not used the technique himself on the slots. Shortly after the postings, WMS obtained a search-and-seizure order, entering Yaghi's Edmonton home three times and seizing computers and data files. The company then filed suit. "At that stage, when we started seeing Internet postings, something had to be done," said Lesniak. "It's just not legal to try and destroy somebody's share value." Shortly after Yaghi demonstrated the glitch, the gaming authority issued a notice recommending casinos bar Yaghi from entering. Yaghi has filed a countersuit for C$1 million against WMS Gaming and has also filed a $2 million suit against Alberta Gaming for defamation. Alberta Gaming is trying to recover an unspecified portion of the losses from WMS Gaming. The losses would be revenues that would normally have gone into the Alberta Lottery Fund. The government's revenue is 70 percent after prizes. Lesniak said gaming regulators in Alberta, Michigan, Iowa, and Illinois are investigating to see if they can lay criminal charges against the individuals who took advantage of the flaw. WMS Gaming claims to have fixed the glitch with a software patch, but Yaghi says he believes other models may have similar problems. Scott Schweinfurth, WMS Gaming's CFO, said the company has no comment on any aspect of the issue. Wired News, June 23, 2000 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] [1] CIA Report on Mossadeq Overthrow
from: http://cryptome.org/cia-iran.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://cryptome.org/cia-iran.htm"CIA Report on Mossadeq Overthrow/A - 24 June 2000: Add exchange with New York Times. Add link to second installment of the unedited report: http://cryptome.org/cia-iran-ad.htm 23 June 2000: Add messages. 22 June 2000: Add messages and Cryptome response to critics. 21 June 2000: Link to first installment of the unedited report: http://cryptom e.org/cia-iran-07.htm 21 June 2000: Add messages. 21 June 2000 On June 16, 2000, the New York Times published on its Web site PDF files of a secret CIA report: "CLANDESTINE SERVICE HISTORY, OVERTHROW OF PREMIER MOSSADEQ OF IRAN, November 1952-August 1953," an operation planned and executed by the CIA and British SIS: http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.html The Times wrote in an introductory note that names of participants in the overthrow were digitally edited from the report "after consultations with historians who believed there might be serious risk that the families of some of those named as foreign agents would face retribution in Iran." Cryptome discovered during reading the report that edited portions could be read by freezing the page during loading just before the digital overwrite occurred (this was possible on a slow computer but not a fast one). We notified the Times of this and another method was used to conceal the edited material. The Times urged Cryptome not to reveal the information and we said we would not (see messages below). Since then Cryptome has learned from messages on Intelligence Forum and other mail lists that other persons have been able to read material edited from the report. Now that the edited information has become public Cryptome is publishing the full unedited report to make it more widely available, in particular to those named in it until now known by a few hostage holding "historians." Here are messages on the topic: From: Jerry Ennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Complete CIA history of 1953 Iranian coup posted by New York Times Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:21:26 -0400 Readers may recall that, in April, the New York Times published portions of the CIA's Clandestine Service History report on the 1953 overthrow of Iran's Premier Mossadeq. Today, the New York Times has now published the complete report with very minor deletions (made by NYT editors). The report starts at http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/iran-cia-intro.pdf Note that the report's table of contents appears on page 4 of this file and the table of contents is linked to each section of the report. Links to all sections are also posted at the end of each pdf file at the NYT site. * From: Jerry Ennis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Intelligence Forum (http://www.intelforum.org) is sponsored by Intelligence and National Security, a Frank Cass journal (http://www.frankcass.com/jnls/ins.htm) Intelligence Forum (http://www.intelforum.org) is sponsored by Intelligence and National Security, a Frank Cass journal (http://www.frankcass.com/jnls/ins .htm) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:19:45 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Complete CIA history of 1953 Iranian coup posted by New York Times The digital means the NY Times used to black out names of persons it was advised might be put at risk by publication failed to do the job properly. All the deletions are readle. The unredacted report shall be published shortly on cryptome.org. The unexpected consequences of digital security are worth pondering. Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:49:57 -0400 (DST) From: John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Complete CIA history of 1953 Iranian coup posted by New York Times To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you really this cavalier with other people's lives? The digital means the NY Times used to black out names of persons it was advised might be put at risk by publication failed to do the job properly. All the deletions are reable. The unredacted report shall be published shortly on cryptome.org. The unexpected consequences of digital security are worth pondering. Date: 19 June 2000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CIA Iran Report Dear Mr. Meislin, You may wish to know that it is possible to read the NYT-redacted portions of the CIA report on the overthrow of Mossadeq. This is the portion of page 54 which can be read by interrupting the page load before the digital redaction occurs: Acting Minister of Court Abul Ghassem Amini Colonel Novzari,
[CTRL] [2] CIA Report on Mossadeq Overthrow
from: http://cryptome.org/cia-iran.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://cryptome.org/cia-iran.htm"CIA Report on Mossadeq Overthrow/A - Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:11:01 -0500 From: Chris Moseng [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Redacted PDF If you ever suspect you have encountered a PDF redacted in this manner in the future, head to Kinko's. All Kinko's rental computers with the most recent software have an acrobat plugin called "Pitstop" that can manipulate PDFs *almost as if they were native files. This would include moving layers of graphics that cover text below, for instance. Obviously this method of redaction would only be implemented by someone unfamiliar with the way postscript and PDF files are created and represented. Chris Moseng Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:15:31 -0400 From: John Markoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: iran I am the New York Times reporter who wrote about the CIA's secret history on Iran. We redacted names in our copy on the web at the urging of historians and Iranian scholars who warned that families of Iranian agents of the CIA may face retribution in Iran.If you go ahead with your plans to publish the unredacted version with names, you should recognize that you will then be responsible for whatever happens to the families of those people in Iran. Please call me 202-862-0355 Jim Risen Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:42:53 -0400 From: John Markoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: iran Please respond to my last message. I think if you go ahead with your plans to circulate an unredacted version of the Iran document, you must recognize that you are endangering lives, and must take responsibility for that. Jim Risen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-862-0355 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:34:04 EDT Subject: Iran document To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr. Risen: Your e-mails to John Young were posted on his site. I'd like to remind you that your record on naming CIA names leaves the suspicion that you are working with them. You have zero credibility on this issue. What about the families of all the victims of SAVAK during the years that the Shah was in power? Don't they deserve some consideration? Do you really think that two generations later, Iran would retaliate against the families of those involved in the 1953 coup? If your answer is "yes," then would you support another CIA overthrow of the government in Iran, and another 25 years of torture and repression? I think you must take responsibility for NOT including the names in the document. And I'm still waiting for that CIA name that you withheld when you were working for the Los Angeles Times. Regards, Daniel Brandt PIR founder president - Public Information Research, PO Box 680635, San Antonio TX 78268-0635 Tel:210-509-3160 Fax:210-509-3161 Nonprofit publisher of NameBase http://www.pir.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:15:31 -0400 From: John Markoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: iran I am the New York Times reporter who wrote about the CIA's secret history on Iran. We redacted names in our copy on the web at the urging of historians and Iranian scholars who warned that families of Iranian agents of the CIA may face retribution in Iran.If you go ahead with your plans to publish the unredacted version with names, you should recognize that you will then be responsible for whatever happens to the families of those people in Iran. Please call me 202-862-0355 Jim Risen Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:42:53 -0400 From: John Markoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: iran Please respond to my last message. I think if you go ahead with your plans to circulate an unredacted version of the Iran document, you must recognize that you are endangering lives, and must take responsibility for that. Jim Risen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 202-862-0355 __ This is a copy of an e-mail to James Risen, whose byline appeared on a Los Angeles Times article about a CIA officer accused of wrongdoing: Dear James Risen: In a story that appeared on December 2, 1997, you wrote the following: The Times agreed not to name the officer, who is still serving undercover after being reassigned to a non-management position. A 1982 law bans the publication of names of undercover agents if it could hurt U.S. espionage activities. I object to your policy of not naming this officer. The Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 does not apply in this case. The relevant paragraph of this law is as
[CTRL] Fwd: [TheFrogPond] LAUGH BREAK !!
Source:http://www.herald.com/thispage.htm?content/archive/living/barry/content.htmDr. Kevorkian's services needed on the campaign trailBy DAVE BARRYHere's some exciting news for you voters: There areonly six or seven more months until the presidentialelection! That's right! Just a half-year or so oflistening to the candidates accuse each other of beingpond scum, and then we get to choose one as ourpresident! Oh, it's going to be a fun campaign. It certainly hasbeen wild and unpredictable so far, hasn't it? I mean,just a year ago, all the so-called ``experts'' weresaying that it was a done deal, that Al Gore andGeorge ``W'' Bush were sure to get nominated, justbecause they had money and the political big shotsbehind them. But guess what? This is not a brutaldictatorship such as Iraq or your cable company. Thisis the United States of America, where the PEOPLEdecide. And the 126 people who actually voted in theprimaries have decided that the nominees will be: AlGore and George ``W'' Bush. Of course both men were challenged in the primaries.Al Gore was challenged by Bill Bradley, formerKnickerbocker and U.S. senator from the state ofSuspended Animation. He reportedly had some goodideas; the problem was that, because of his speakingstyle, nobody heard them. He'd give a speech on healthcare, and the audience would wake up days later, stillgroggy, saying, ``I remember him saying somethingabout pre-existing medical conditions, and thenapparently my head struck the floor.'' Bush's main challenger was Sen. John McCain, who gotgood coverage from the news media, because he invitedthem to ride on his bus. To a normal, well-adjustedhuman, a bus ride is not particularly exciting, but itwas HUGE to the media, because pretty much everybodyhates them, especially politicians, who generallywould not invite the media to ride on anything exceptan inner tube floating just above Niagara Falls. SoMcCain got excellent press, to the point where someBush supporters felt that the coverage was slanted, asevidenced by this front-page headline from the Feb. 2issue of The New York Times: McCAIN IS SEEN GAINING ON STUPID But when all was said and done, the winners were Bushand Gore, one of whom will be our next president,unless -- and I would not totally rule this out - theConstitution suddenly is discovered to be missing, andit mysteriously turns up a few days later in the WhiteHouse living quarters, and, lo and behold, the partthat limits the president to two terms is GONE. But probably it'll be Gore or Bush. Perhaps you'reasking yourself: Since we have the candidates, why notjust hold the election NOW? Why drag it out? Why can'twe be more like, say, Great Britain, which somehow isable to elect an entire new government in less timethan it takes for our presidential candidates to agreeon the lectern heights for a TV debate? The answer is that if we vote now, we will do a greatdeal of harm to something we Americans call ``thedemocratic process,'' by which I mean ``TV and radiobroadcasters.'' These companies are going to be paidmany millions of dollars to air commercials in whichthe candidates viciously attack each other, day afterday, month after month, until nobody wants to vote foreither one of them except their immediate pets. Thisis called ``informing the voters.'' To get you started with this process, here's ananalysis of the two candidates' strengths, weaknessesand positions on the issues:AL GORE: His strength is that he has been vicepresident for eight years, which theoretically giveshim a lot of experience. Unfortunately, he cannotremember ever having participated in any officialmeetings or discussions or anything else that anycurrent or future special prosecutor may or may notfind out about. He is in favor of education, theeconomy and the Family, and he communicates his viewson these topics by speaking in a style identical tothat of Mister Rogers reassuring 2-year-olds that theywill not be sucked down the bathtub drain. GEORGE ``W'' BUSH: His strength is that he is the sonof former President George Herbert Walker HooverFranklin Pierce Kennebunkport Bush. His biggestweakness is that he apparently does not speak English,or anything else, as a native language, and thus hastrouble when asked trick questions such as what hethinks. He is also in favor of education, the economyand the Family. Both men are strongly against the use of drugs, atleast at this point in their lives. So there you haveit, voters! Your exciting choice! Ointment vs.Suppository! Only another 200 days or so, and you getto pick one! This is assuming you have not moved toIraq.__Your Time Is Valuable, I respect that. Take advantage of my generous nature and share in the good fortune I have been graced with. I have done the research, reap the rewards without the problems: http://growrichnow.com/?250329If you are already wealthy, sorry to take your time... If not, enjoy this FREEBIE on me, pass it on and discover how
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Your Time Is Valuable, I respect that. Take advantage of my generous nature and share in the good fortune I have been graced with. I have done the research, reap the rewards without the problems: http://growrichnow.com/?250329If you are already wealthy, sorry to take your time... If not, enjoy this FREEBIE on me, pass it on and discover how good it feels to share the wealth! http://growrichnow.com/?250329~~for educational purposes only~~Playing Monopolyby Joseph SobranNow that Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson describedas "a pro-business, conservative Republican," bythe Wall Street Journal has ordered the breakupof Microsoft, we should pause to reflect on antitrustmeasures and monopolies of power.Years ago I was asked: "Why don't you criticizeBig Business the way you criticize Big Government?"A fair question. I answered that I wasn't forced todeal with General Motors. I was free not to buy itsproducts, and it couldn't jail me for driving aHonda. By contrast, I had to pay the federalgovernment roughly the price of a new car everyyear and I never got the car. My money wasdistributed among others who were favored by thepoliticians.Since then, Microsoft has replaced General Motorsas the emblematic giant corporation. And I do dealwith Microsoft. I use its products freely andvoluntarily, as everyone else does and they havebecome indispensable to my work, even at this moment.I don't feel that I need Judge Jackson or AttorneyGeneral Janet Reno to "protect" me from Bill Gates.Neither of them could do what Gates has achieved.He is unique, a great innovator. They belong tothe huge class of interchangeable people who runthe government that is, who deal with peoplethrough the constant threat of force, which isthe essence of government. They can be replaced;countless others can do what they do.Miss Reno, after all, was Bill Clinton's thirdchoice for her job. She will be remembered chieflyfor violent confrontations in Waco and Miami, andperhaps secondarily for helping Clinton escapeinvestigation by special prosecutors. People likeher are essentially parasites; they produce nothingto enhance our lives. They are the people we reallyneed to be protected from.The definition of "monopoly" in business hasbecome highly technical and manipulable. Butthe bottom line is that I'm free to use theproducts of Microsoft's competitors. I could evengo back to my old Royal typewriter if necessary.But Gates attracts the predators as what TomWolfe has called "the Great White Defendant."Jackson and Reno are basking in the glory ofhaving nailed him.Why is nobody talking about the real monopoly ofpower that of the federal government? The word"federal" has become a misnomer; there is nothingreally federal about a government that can claimauthority over anything it chooses to control.The Constitution is an antitrust act forgovernment. It was designed to prevent thefederal government from becoming a monopoly ofpower, or what the Framers called a "consolidated"government. A few specific powers were delegatedto it, and all others were denied to it. The pointof the Tenth Amendment is not, as is usually said,to protect "states' rights," but to limit federalpowers.But power tends to accumulate, and throughoutthe twentieth century the United States wentthe way of so many European nation-states. Itabandoned its tradition of federalism anddecentralized power, just as other countrieswere adopting communism, socialism, fascism,and other variants of the consolidated state.The interpretation of the Constitution wassystematically and shamelessly warped toauthorize what that Constitution clearly prohibits.But who will break up the federal government'smonopoly? Most Americans, drenched inpro-government propaganda, are ignorant of theConstitution especially if they've studiedconstitutional law in a pricey law school. We'vefallen for the prevalent but preposterous notionthat the interpretations of the U.S. SupremeCourt somehow supersede the clear, original,traditional, and logically inescapable meaningsof the text itself.By inflating the meanings of a few phrases,some of which aren't even in theConstitution "interstate commerce," "freedomof expression," "equal protection of thelaws" the federal judiciary has helped createmonopoly government.A monopoly of the coercive powers ofgovernment including the powers of taxing,regulating, arresting, and confiscating isfar more dangerous, and potentially lethal,than any powers a private corporation can amass.Bill Gates can't arrest his competitors; he can'tlay armed siege to an eccentric religious sect;he can't punish you for boycotting Microsoft.And he can't distract attention from his troublesby bombing foreign countries.Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!
[CTRL] Solstice marked by twin executions
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The Bush crime family celebrated the clandestine Luciferian Masonic
(CLuM) high holiday of the Summer Solstice with twin executions in
Florida and Texas.
The Summer Solstice marks the end of the Zodiac sign of Gemini, the
Twins, the birthsign of the Antichrist, and the beginning of the sign of
Cancer, the "official" birthsign of New Atlantis, a.k.a. the U.S.A. The
Summer Solstice season is also celebrated on June 24, the Feast of the
Birthday of St. John the Baptist, one of the "patron saints" of Freemasonry.
In the Lone Star (of Pythagoras) State of Texas executions are carried
out in Huntsville, the seat of Walker County, and are presided over by the
Governor, George Walker Bush. ("Walker" = "Traveling Man", a Masonic
code word and recognition sign.). George Walker Bush, El Brujo de
Austin ("The Wizard of Oz-tin"), has presided over more executions than
any other state governor in the history of New Atlantis.
Governor Bush is an initiate of the CLuM secret society Skull and
Bones, just like his father, our Most Puissant Past President George
"Poppy" Bush. That serial killer was nicknamed "Poppy" by his family as a
reminder of the family's longstanding and loyal service in the British royal
family's opium smuggling business.
The guilt or innocence of the condemned are not important to CLuMs;
all they are looking for is somebody to kill, a victim to offer to Lucifer.
"Conservative" CLuM Brother Walker Bush was assisted in the Texas
Luciferian ceremony by his CLuM Brother, the "Reverend" Jesse Jackson,
a high-ranking Freemason over at the "liberal" end of the CLuM Rainbow.
Head PUSHer Jackson was praying to his master Lucifer/Satan, as the
lethal drugs were killing sacrificial victim Gary ("Aharon") Lee ("Levi")
Graham in Huntsville.
Graham had been sentenced to death for a murder that had taken place
on the 13th day of May in 1981, the same day as the Luciferian Masonic
death and resurrection of the crypto-Mason Karol Wojtyla, the
assassination attempt on the man masquerading as "Pope John Paul II' for
the last 22 years. Graham was sacrificed on June 22, 2000, a period of 19
years, 1 month, and 9 days after the murder. These repeated digits, 19, 1,
9, are a muted reminder of the 19-year Metonic cycle of the Moon.
On the previous day, Wednesday, June 21, 2000, another one of
Barbara "La Bruja" Bush's sons, the Governor of the (Luciferian) Sunshine
State of Florida Jeb Bush, presided over the execution by lethal drug
injection of Thomas Provenzano. The name "Thomas" means "Twin" in
Aramaic.
Thomas Provenzano, a mental patient, believed he was Jesus.
Provenzano stated that he was being killed because people hate Jesus
Christ.
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SkeptiNews 000624a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/23_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No Mars landings were attempted during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Snowballs In Summer: http://www.eyestorm.com/events/goldsworthy/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ UFOs, Aliens Antichrist: The Angelic Conspiracy End Times Deception. Satan: Prince of the Power of the Air,Lord of those that Fly, Intelligence behind UFO manifestations and alien encounters http://www.mt.net/~watcher/ # THEY'RE BACK! UFO'S: PRELUDE TO INVASION BY NEW AGE DEITY? Earth is ripe for Satanic plucking: http://worthynews.com/ufo-invasion-new-age.html @ ASHTAR - GOD, MAN, OR MACHINE? www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/ashtar.html @ Aliens: ETs or demons? Watch your ass: http://eth.faithweb.com/alien1.html # Journal of Alternative Realities 7/1. The Oz Factor - Technology Update - Tracking UFOs by Satellite - Alien Base - Preamble to the Ultimate Debate. From Atlantis to the Sphinx - Spirit Possession - Alien Dawn - Uri Geller. Cult Encounter - My ET Experiences - Robot Warriors - Flying Saucers Sonic Booms - Legacy from the Stars - Western Australian Sightings - Und- erground Bases Tunnels: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~amilani/jour7.html : Who's y'r favorite demonic alien? Are UFOlogists dupes/devils/devout/dead? Has your planet been invaded by demons/angels/sprites/faeries lately? Where do they nest? Have you taken TV cameras into their underground bases? When? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # What Now For Mars? A manned landing is the ultimate goal. (BBC) The possibility of water on Mars will revitalise our efforts to explore our neighbouring world, on which life could have started and may still exist today. http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m24-003.shtml # Mars Water Speculation Began In The 1870s - That's when Italian astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli spotted what he described as "canali" on the red planet's surface. The word means channels but was interpreted as canals, and that's when speculation about a civilization on Mars first arose. http://www.floridatoday.com/news/local/stories/2000/jun/loc062200j.htm # Martian Water Comes In Bursts: http://sightings.com/general2/bursts.htm # Water, Water Everywhere. Where there is life there is water. Is there life where there is water? http://www.sightings.com/general2/wat.htm # LIFE ON MARS? NASA Myth Rebuffed: http://www.nccg.org/016Art-Mars.html : If Martian exploration is a game, what are the rules? Are you allowed to find life? Is Mars life allowed to find you? Are you allowed to obliterate any life you find? Is it allowed to obliterate you? Who judges the contest? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Mind-Control: Canadian/US Survivors Seek Justice. Covert CIA involvement is real and is not contested. http://webcom.com/ctka/pr300-mkultra.html # THE ANNIHILATION FOUNTAIN: THE DEAD MEDIA PROJECT; THE CIA TORTURE MANUAL: http://www.disobey.com/low/archives/annihilation_fountain/1997/taf04.txt @ Montauk: http://www.mysteries-megasite.com/main/bigsearch/montauk.html @ NameBase - Database of the Conspiracy: http://www.pir.org/nbhome.html @ CIA VATICAN, HOLOGRAPHIC PROJECTION TECHNOLOGY - Montauk Mind Control. Massive doses of electronic mind control programming, thought intrusion brain/biogenetic manipulations will commence. These projects are no longer experimental - fully operational. http://www.mt.net/~watcher/conholo.html @ PHOENIX UNDEAD - THE MONTAUK PROJECT CAMP HERO TODAY. The covert govt's secret electromagnetic/radio frequency mind control project based at a documented subterranean facility beneath the derelict Montauk Air Force Station, Long Island: http://www.geocities.com/psychicspy_2000/monew.htm : If mindcontrol is a game, what are the rules? Where is the game played?Who moves first? Are side bets allowed? What are permissible forms of cheating? Is the game suitable to computer simulation? Is there an UNDO key? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UNITED RELIGIONS: THE NEW WORLD RELIGION? Powerful people with a One World agenda are trying to meld all the religions into a One World Religion. A group in Australia call themselves United Religions. The organization is envisioned to serve the same purpose for all religions that the UN serves for all nations. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=3762 @ The Secret History of America: The Greatest Conspiracy On Earth. This May Be The Most Important Document You Ever Read In Your Life! Caution: may be triggering for survivors: http://www.freedomdomain.com/Catalog/catalog.htm @ This Overshadowed Planet. "The name of the game is 'Find Your Adversary'. Your adversary's game
[CTRL] Freedom Activist Dead
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Freedom Activist Dead Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:54 PM Even as research continues to show medical potential for constituents of cannabis, such as THC, which has been (http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=9257) shown in two studies to fight tumors, the author and freedom activist Peter McWilliams was arrested for using cannabis to treat AIDS in a state that voted to legalize the medical use of cannabis. Not deterred by the people's call for nonaggression, the federal government initiated aggression against McWilliams anyway. Now, the terrible news is that while awaiting sentencing, Peter died, apparently drown in his own vomit. Cannabis is a anti-nausea agent that allows cancer and AIDS patients to keep their medicine down. He was denied an effective remedy that worked and died apparently as a direct result. Just another of the countless victims of the War on Drugs. http://www.norml.org/news/index.shtml#story1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:55:37 EDT Subject: [MDLP] McWilliams dead at age 50 June 15, 2000 Medical Marijuana Advocate, Libertarian Author Peter McWilliams Dies at age 50 Los Angeles, CA: Peter McWilliams, a best selling author who suffered from both AIDS and cancer, passed away in his home in Los Angeles on June 14th. He was 50 years old. McWilliams, who was an outspoken advocate for the medical use of marijuana, was arrested along with Todd McCormick in 1998 in a high-profile case for cultivating marijuana in a Bel Air, CA, mansion. Both men said the marijuana was intended to supply "buyers' cooperatives" that serve patients in California. At the time of his death, McWilliams was awaiting sentencing on those charges. His story was featured last Friday by John Stossel on the ABC-TV news program 20/20.He is survived by his mother and brother. No details are yet available regarding the funeral. (more details) 6/15/00 PETER MCWILLIAMS PASSES AWAY by Don Wirtshafter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here are the details I have been able to gather. It turns out to be a double tragedy. Last Sunday, Peter had a major fire in his house. It burnt up the entire downstairs including his computer and backups. Peter was just weeks away from finishing his book on the ordeal he has gone through. He was quite excited about it and motivated to finish it. I heard the firemen had to rescue Peter through his upstairs bedroom window. The loss of this work threw Peter into shock. He was not able to talk to anyone these past few days. The loss of his book was overwhelming to him. Peter was found in his bathroom choked on his own vomit. Readers may recall his posting a few weeks back where he described in detail the routine he had worked out to quiet his stomach so it would not reject the cocktail of pills he was prescribed for his AIDS. Medical marijuana worked perfectly for this purpose, at the time of his arrest his viral count was down to zero. Federal Judge George King ordered him not to use medical marijuana while he was on federal bond. Because his mother and brother had put up their houses for this bond, Peter felt obliged to follow this order. But it meant he could not keep down his medicine and his viral count. Over a period of time Peter developed a routine of bedrest and other precautions so that he could keep down his medicine. See: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00/n344/a04.html?159127 His health began to return but he asserted that there was not way that he could follow this routine in jail. He hoped the judge would understand this and sentence him to a period of house arrest. Peter choked to death due to the lack of a proper anti-emetic. Forgive me for my anger, but it feels to me that he died as a direct result of the bullshit he was fighting so hard. California voters passed an initiative so that seriously ill patients like Peter could use medical marijuana. Because the federal government is unwilling to face the reality that marijuana is a medicine, Goliath had to crush innocent patients like Peter. For lack of a proper anti-emetic, Peter died. I hold the feds responsible. I pray that somehow a copy of Peter's unfinished work surfaces so that the world can hear his final message to us. As a movement we need to find some way of honoring Peter and his work. And we need to redouble our efforts to keep our own government from killing more innocent victims. With deep respect and loss, Don
[CTRL] HOOVER'S DARK SECRET IS REVEALED
HOOVER'S DARK SECRET IS REVEALED J Edgar Hoover, the head of the FBI who worked relentlessly to undermine Martin Luther King and others in the civil rights movement in the 1960s, had black ancestors whose existence he desperately tried to keep secret, according to a new book. http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/international/story/0,,335802,00.html = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Subject: Are you a cultist? (fwd)
[Remember this, i.e., Janet Reno's alleged cult quotes?? I always assumed them to be real, too. --MS] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:20:59 -0700 From: "Scott Jordan (c/o Yahoo)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Are you a cultist? Sorry, Howard, it is with mixed emotions that I must tell you: this quote is bogus, an urban legend. I got taken to the woodshed by no less than Joe Farah for putting it on my web page a couple years ago. Farah researched it thoroughly and among other problems, there's the one that Reno had never appeared on 60 Minutes. The frightening thing is that it's so believable. That alone says volumes about America in the 21st century. I have no doubt that this is an accurate representation of the views of many in this Administration, and many--even a majority--in the country. --Scott J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Are you a cultist? Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 9:41 AM Subject: Are you a cultist? I didn't even realize I was a "cultist" until I read Janet Reno's definition of one (see below). Now, I find out I'm not only a cultist, but also a threat to my country! Does this not foretell, in her own words, of possible future governmental intrusion into the lives of us all? Are these her words? Or is Edgar Bergin pulling the strings on the Reno dummy? Read this statement from Janet Reno: "A cultist is one who has a strong belief in the Bible and Second Coming of Christ; who frequently attends Bible studies; who has a high level of financial giving to a Christian cause; who home schools for their children; who has accumulated survival foods and has strong belief in the Second Amendment; and who distrusts big government. Any of these may qualify a person as a cultist but certainly more than one of these would cause us to look at this person as a threat and his family as being in a risk situation that qualifies for government interference." Janet Reno, Attny. General of the United States during an Interview on CBS "60 Minutes" on June 26, 1999. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Homosexuality Law Scrapped In Scotland
TO KEEP THE PEACE, KEEP YOUR PIECE! June 24, 2000 -- 9:02 am Homosexuality Law Scrapped In Scotland LONDON, England (CNSNews) -- Scotland has become the first part of the United Kingdom to scrap a controversial law banning the promotion of homosexuality in schools - but opponents of the repeal also scored a moral victory by getting the importance of marriage enshrined in new guidelines for sex education teachers. Faced by a growing public campaign in favor of keeping the law, known as section 28, ministers in the devolved Scottish Executive reversed course this week, agreeing to a crucial change in the wording for the legally-binding teaching guidelines. Lawmakers then passed the repeal bill by a 99-17 vote. The text of the compulsory guidelines will now say teachers of sex education should emphasize " ... the importance of stable family life and relationships" - and then adds the crucial phrase "... including the responsibilities of parenthood and marriage." Previously the Labor-led Executive maintained there was no need for legally-enforceable guidelines ensuring that teachers highlight marriage in their classes. Supporters of section 28, aware that its repeal was ultimately inevitable, fought for the amendment, which they said may help reassure parents who were concerned that the abolition of the law would result in homosexuality being actively promoted in schools. The Roman Catholic Church and Brian Souter, a Christian transport millionaire who spearheaded a "Keep the Clause" campaign, welcomed the inclusion of marriage in the guidance. Souter last month financed Britain's first ever privately-funded referendum on the matter, in which 87 percent of Scottish voters who responded voted to keep section 28. On Wednesday he announced he was closing down the campaign. Souter's "Keep the Clause" drive was supported by Cardinal Thomas Winning, leader of Scotland's 750,000 Roman Catholics, who warned earlier: "If we are not very, very careful, we will inadvertently promote a lifestyle for our children which will reduce their life expectancy, increase their chances of HIV infection and expose them to predatory and abusive relationships." The eight-month long dispute over section 28 dominated the first year of the devolved Scottish Executive's existence. Section 28 was introduced by Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's Conservative government in 1980s, partly as a reaction to the actions of left-wing local government councils which promoted "politically correct" programs. It said local authorities "shall not promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship." It opponents, headed by the homosexuality advocacy lobby, said it was discriminatory and had no place in a modern, tolerant society. Some teacher groups said it provided an environment in which homophobic bully could occur. Its supporters said the law's repeal would open the doors for highly graphic and offensive material already being prepared for use in some schools. The British government has still not managed to scrap section 28 in England and Wales, its attempts to do so having been repeatedly stymied by the Conservative-dominated upper House of Lords. http://www.mcjonline.com/news/00/2623e.htm No more same-sex 'marriages'. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2525/ts/pope_gays_1.html No more homosexual sex education.. http://www.massnews.com/maygsa.htm Kids Get Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] warning: for pet owners
I am being told as recently as yesterdaythat using a certain household product animals are being put at extreme risk and use of this product in a durrogatory way is becoming a serious problem in the US for pet owners, as this toxin is easily accessible for those who would choose to poison animals. This toxin causes an agonizing death to animals who ingest it, particularly in cats. Pet owners should be warned of this hazard. Pass on this information to anyone who has a cat or dog that goes outside frequently. http://www.vetinfo.com/dtoxin.html Antifreeze Poisoning from Ethylene glycol Q: Dear Dr Mike Recently in Australia a number of show dogs have been poisoned by antifreeze. People have assumed that dogs have been poisoned on purpose by some unknown party contaminating dogs water bowls at shows. It has also been suggested that this may have occurred by air-conditioning systems. eg: Home Cars etc. Could this be the case? What are the symptoms to look out for how long does it take for symptoms to occur after ingestion? Your reply to these questions would be gratefully received. Margaret RA: The most commonly used antifreeze compounds contain ethylene glycol, which is toxic to dogs and cats if ingested. The minimal lethal dosage for cats is 1.4ml/kg of body weight and for dogs 4.4 to 6.6 ml/kg of undiluted ethylene glycol, according to Thrall, Grauer and Dial in Kirk's Current Therapy XII. This means that 1 teaspoonful of antifreeze (5ml) could kill a 7 pound cat. Antifreeze is normally diluted for use in automobiles so more of the diluted solution would have to be ingested to achieve toxic levels. Unfortunately, antifreeze seems to be palatable to dogs and cats and ingestion of large amounts of the solution can occur. Ethylene glycol has similar effects to ethanol (the alcohols imbibed recreationally by humans). However, it is broken down in the liver into different compounds than ethanol and these metabolic products cause damage to the kidneys and are more toxic to the central nervous system than the ethylene glycol. Antifreeze poisoning normally occurs when pet become exposed to antifreeze leaking from a car's cooling system or when antifreeze is changed. Sometimes antifreeze is placed in home plumbing systems when heat will not be maintained during winter months (such as a summer cottage). When this is done it is extremely important to remember to flush the system well prior to letting pets in the house. Pets have been exposed to antifreeze poisoning maliciously in some instances, as well. There is at least one brand of antifreeze sold in the U.S. that does not use ethylene glycol and is considered to be safer for pets. After exposure to the ethylene glycol clinical signs will develop in as short a time as 30 minutes to approximately as long as 12 hours, depending on the dose ingested. Depression, signs of intoxication similar to alcohol ingestion, vomiting, depression, coma and death may occur among the initial signs of poisoning. These signs normally last less than 12 hours in dogs causing some owners to think the danger has passed. Cats are less likely to recover from the initial signs. After the central nervous system effects are over, the kidneys are damaged by the antifreeze. In cats this may seem like a continuous thing because the kidney effects often show up just as the CNS signs would have diminished. In dogs the kidney problems usually show up one to three days after ingestion of the antifreeze. Formation of urine drops off until urine is not produced at all. This severe renal failure causes vomiting, sores in the mouth, a noticeable increase in oral odor, severe depression and then eventually coma and death. The really bad thing about antifreeze poisoning is that treatment must be initiated very promptly for the pet to survive. Dogs do best if treated within five hours of ingestion of the antifreeze. Cats need to be treated even sooner. The chances of survival diminish rapidly 8 hours post ingestion in the dog and 4 hours post ingestion in cats. For this reason, it is extremely important to consider the possibility of antifreeze poisoning almost any time there are unexplained central nervous system disorders that occur acutely in dogs and cats. There are tests specifically for ethylene glycol. An "in-house" test kit is available to veterinarians and local hospitals are often willing to test for this toxin on an emergency basis when exposure is suspected. Examination of the urine reveals crystals that are highly suspicious of ethylene glycol exposure about six hours after the toxin is ingested but waiting for these to show up places the pet at risk. Looking for crystals when the timing of exposure is unknown can give good prognostic information, though. Treatment for this condition is best done with 4-methylpyrazole (4-MP, or fomepizole (Antizol-Vet(TM)), which was recently approved for use in dogs. This
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
May I add... Jesus was rejected by the Pharisees' temple cult of darkness. In fact, Jesus said: "This is your hour and the power of darkness." (Luke 22:53) Regardless of how many may try, no one will ever be able to apply this identification of the overspreading of the abomination desolation over the Temple and Jerusalem to anyone else. Jesus was crucified by these same ones who took Him. (Luke 22:52-54) Regardless of how hard many try, the evil deed of rejecting and plotting the murder of Jesus can never be attributed to Rome Imperial or Rome Papal. Regardless of how hard some deny it, the Apostles always accused the Phariseees of this wicked and evil deed (Acts 2:23; 3:14-15; 7:52; 1 Thessalonians 2:15; James 5:6). The Romans were trapped into this murder by the Sanhedrin and coercing Pilate with threats of reporting him to Rome for allowing another man in the Roman Empire to be called a King. The Romans were never blamed by the Apostles for the death of Jesus. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed Your response illustrates my contention exactly. The Roman rulers of Palestine had the final say in all executions, it is a historic fact. The Jews could not condemn anyone, it had to be the Roman legal system that did it, so Pilate could not wash his hands. There is no historical evidence of there ever being any practice of allowing people to be freed for Passover or any other holiday, prisoners stayed in prison or were executed, never released because people wanted it. Jesus was a prisoner of the Romans, not the Jews. Jesus was killed by Roman soldiers, on the orders of Roman rulers. But if you want to believe the Pharisees or anyone else was at fault be my guest. . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2
SkeptiNews 000624b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/23_06_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No cyberwarriors were hot-wired during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Metal Dogbone Asteroid: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/pictures/kleopatra/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # GORE 'SURE AS HELL' HE DIDN'T KNOW OF TEMPLE FUND-RAISER - Buddhist bucks beautiful: http://CNN.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/06/23/gore.finance/ # BUCHANAN COURTS MUSLIM VOTE - Catholicism and Islam share so many vital values: http://CNN.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/06/23/buchanan.muslim/ # Hindu man accused of killing missionary to seek public office in India: http://www.worthynews.com/news-features/newsroom-india-missionary.html # Singing candidate: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000623/08/odd-singer-dc @ So, maybe you've heard of http://www.bigidea.com/ Veggie Tales, the adorable, computer rendered, Christian vegetables. And maybe you've even seen some of the http://www.bigidea.com/products/videos/ videos. But have you played the shockwave games? I'll bet that you haven't helped super-hero cucumber http://www.larry-boy.com/ Larry-Boy complete his http://www.larry-boy.com/mission/default.htm mission, or helped Josh http://www.bigidea.com/kids/games/josh/ and his Israelite vegetable army overcome the slushee throwing guardians of Jericho, or played their frighteningly cute http://www.bigidea.com/kids/games/pile_up/ tetris knock-off. Now worship me at http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Religion/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Recombinant DNA For The Home Hobbyist. How to amplify and isolate DNA chains in your kitchen, using the tried-and-true Polymerase Chain Reaction technique. Use it for massively parallel computing experiments; to ID friends, pets, and favorite houseplants; or to help eliminate epidemics. But what'll happen when enterprising teenagers start playing with plasmids and recombinant DNA? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/06/18/1316258 # New Theory Proposes Strong Gravity and a Universe at Your Fingertips. How much of the universe can you pinch between your thumb and finger? Maybe a lot more than you think. Far reaches of the cosmos may lie less than a millimeter away. Whole other universes may be within your grasp. Be here now: http://enews.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/multi-d-universe.html # The Amazing Bend-o-Nanotubes. A new discovery in the nature of carbon na- notubes may be a key contribution to the realization of nanotechnological dreams. Revolution: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/06/20/1343204 # Dowsing thrives into 21st Century. A professional well-driller says he has found water by dowsing maybe 200 times over 33 years, with a 90% success rate. http://www.cnn.com/2000/NATURE/06/22/water.dowsers.ap/index.html : Have you done any home gene-splicing lately? D'ya use nanobots to rebuild y'r genes/brain/cat/phone/planet? Have you doused any universes lately? Are they gooshy? Do you feel God-like? Are you divine? Has anyone noticed? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ANCIENT UNDERGROUND TUNNEL MAZE FOUND IN IRELAND. The discovery of an ancient maze of underground passages in south Armagh has solved a vast centuries-old mystery: http://www.farshore.force9.co.uk/tunnel00.htm # Suffolk site throws up new treasures. (BBC) An Anglo Saxon cemetery has been uncovered at Sutton Hoo. Coroners seek cause of death of Galahad: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_802000/802819.stm # SUBMERGED EGYPTIAN CITIES. An underwater archaeological survey of the Med- iterranean off Egypt's north coast has revealed the remains of two 2,500- yr-old cities (Menouthis Herakleion?), which served as trading hubs in the Late Dynastic Period. http://archaeology.org/online/news/negypt.html # Ancient Contacts in the Americas. Maya had memories of white gods... Roman coins found in Venezuela Maine... Roman pottery in Mexico... an ancient Sicilian coin in Alabama... http://www.farshore.force9.co.uk/evidence.htm # Ancient Egyptians in the New World? 2 statuettes found in Mayan ruins that depict the Egyptian gods Isis and Osiris! How did Egyptian artifacts get to the New World? http://www.knowledge.co.uk/frontiers/sf098/sf098a01.htm : Have you uncovered any ancient mysteries lately? D'ya prefer mazes, sunken cities, anomalous artifacts, blasted heaths/plains/deserts/hills, forbidden knowledge, me? Do the voices in your head guide your explorations? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # How many people does it take to change the world? With six billion people and counting, Planet Earth faces crossroads on coming to terms with popu- lation growth. Cutbacks:
Re: [CTRL] [whitespeak] This Patriot will NEVER support the Demo/Repub Duopoly!
Fred, JFK tried that and look what happened to him. See my Post, 'The Reason JFK was Assassinated'. Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm - Original Message - From: "Frederick A. Weiland" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 8:35 PM Subject: RE: [whitespeak] This Patriot will NEVER support the Demo/Repub Duopoly! I would like for American citizens to regain control of our government. To do that we must replace the GOP-DEM party combine in Congress and elect a Congress whose members will establish a national bank to coin our money and control its value in accord with Article 1 of the Constitution of the United States. This would entail buying present privately owned banks and hiring their employees to the extent necessary. The new bank would be owned by the United States and be operated at a profit to finance Social Security and Medicare. Voters should support only candidates for the House and Senate who commit to establish the new Constitutional Bank as soon as practicable after attaining office. Fred Weiland Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [whitespeak] This Patriot will NEVER support the Demo/Repub Duopoly! I think we should start a write in campain to wake up the establishment. The only problem is who do we choose? Some people I've talked to want Duke, others want Pierce, some want Hale, while I'm kind of partial to Rocker. If we can get everyone to write in a vote for the same person for president, maybe we can give those in DC notice. If anyone has an idea for someone everyone will agree on maybe we can get the ball rolling before it's too late. Scott A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Study: Fatherhood Turns Men To Faith
Note by Sender - Brothers and Sisters, Haven't you had enough of the Feminist conspiracy, funded by the international banking cartel, to destroy the traditional family which is so essential to the process of bonding, nurturing, and instilling respect and discipline in our young? Would sure appreciate it if you were to deem this Post worthy of re-distribution far and wide. -- Study: Fatherhood Turns Men To Faith ATHENS, OH (CHARISMA) -- Fatherhood turns men to faith. Forty-four percent of dads attend worship services at a church, synagogue or mosque, compared with 29 percent of guys without children, according to an eight-year study by Scripps Howard News Service and Ohio University. "I've known a number of men who come back to church when their kids are born or when they are old enough to start asking their dads the really tough questions of life," men's issues writer Robert Wolgemuth told Scripps Howard. "Fathers start to wonder if God can help them to sort out their own lives and help raise their children." Religious involvement was just one way that becoming a father changes the course of a man's life, the survey of almost 6,500 men found. Dads also typically earn more and move homes less than childless men. "If fathering does not change your life, then you are not doing it right," said Kyle Pruett, clinical professor of psychiatry at Yale's Child Study Center. Fathers are also more concerned about some of the ways society is changing, found the study. "Once you begin to look outside of your own needs and selfishness, once you begin to worry about someone else, then you lift your eyes above the next horizon," commented Pruett, "and when you do, you realize that there is plenty to be worried about." (Post date: June 22, 2000) http://www.mcjonline.com/news/00/2622e.htm Bard BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm Power MUST be transferred, come November, FROM: The Harold Pratt House 58 East 68th Street New York, NY 10021 Tel. (212) 434-9400; Fax: (212) 861-1789 Washington Office: 1779 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20036 Tel. (202) 518-3400; Fax (202) 986-2984 http://www.foreignrelations.org/public/ci.html TO: United States Senate Washington, DC 20510 United States House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515 (202)224-3121 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CIA Blocks Manuscript of Former Operative
So look at Los Alamos...someday will we read about what happened there in a book? I do not like people or CIA operatives who sign agreements to maintain secrecy only to break their word and a man is judged by his word is he not? The contract is supposed to help keep im honest. I remember reading Victor Marchetti's book and I was invited to Assassinatoin Committee meeting in 1974 where he and Mark Lane (who stole my bible code or theory thereof in his book - but I still have that copyright)...anyway I did not go to this conference for I began to think as they say, something was rotten in Denmark. Mark Lane is always the guy that gets away and he alone escapes to tell the truth - in a book. My friend said he was CIA lawyer of worst possible type - and I now believe her. Norman Mailer was there and tht guy burned out years ago with Lane - both tried to run for Council in NYC - guess the former has sobered up by now. Bud Fensterwald was betrayed by Lane, who told stories out of school to Larry Flynt who was later shot in the name of JFK though he was trying to acquire some respectiblity getting close to the limelight - this man Flynt was in with president Carter's Born Again Chrisian sisteral Gore is a born again Christian - what ws he before, a Don in the Mafia? No this CIA operative is like a Kissinger = the enemy with in and he wants his 30 pieces of silver. Remember Welch brought home in a conffin becaue Kissinger deliberately let pictures overseas CIA lists be takenBob Pope CIA who headed National Enquired nailed hat bastard on that one - old KGB Agen Code Name Bore Kissinger.the enemy within. Look at Colby fund dead in the river = I used to listen to tapes of this man and a guy named Secord.pretty dull stuff for me, but the man who played them had big in with Jack Anderson and was on the lam more than once with Feds out to get him. So is there safety in Numbers when you have a traitor within who breaks his word and does not live up to his agreement Make a fast buck - do like Cavendish and Hunt and some of the others - make the crap fiction for people get the truth and nobody can prove itlike the bible code - try to take that to Court. Like Martha Mitchell when witness in Watergate where she tried to protect her husband - went to Court with KING JAMES BIBLE..later she was drugged and ended up dead anyway. This greedy man puts other lives in jeopardy only because he uses inside information with which he was entrusted and promised to keep secret. What happened to John Paisley who lived next door to Bud Fensterwald who headed up Asassination Committee - he was respected by the House Committee to Investigate the Assassinations but the CIA told him if he took job as counsel on the report, etc., he would have his head brought to him on a platter. Now Mark Lane betrayed Bud, who said he would deny it if he revealed what he had said in Flynt's first and last FREE PRESSLane went ahead, and this guy even went to Jonestown, and direct association with Rick Strawcuter and was with Dorothy Kilgallon night or night before she died.he has writen many books. Read last Chapter of Ecclesiasticsabout the writing of many books.this were virtually Sam Ervins last words as Chairman of Watergate Committeebooks, books, books and more books. Want to see the enemy within? Why is it when it comes to CIA you find Welsh, Fitzgerald, and Welch names so active? Because these men were men of honor and a lot of OSS died in WWII..oh it was terrible becaue these men were Waspswell now get a load of the CIA with a guy named Deutch who took secrets home and put in his computerhe stole them, and look at Los Alamos, with red chinese running all over hell..are these Japanese like this Horihouchi or whatever the hell his name was..the guy who was at Waco and murdered Vicky Weaver at Ruby Ridge - was at West Point probably about same time that let the murdering Meyr Lansky's so in? How much did they pay.. Looks like they all like to play with fire.check out that Miami hot spot that was, and see the Star of David flying outside Elian's housedid you get a load of that kid ditching two over a fence caught on camera?To an unknown person?And the Star of David flies but the Confederate Flag is verboten? Any CIA agent that betrays his country should be tried in a criminal court if it results in the death of one agent - this country has the enemy within it its Oval Office . Anyone for golf, or is that now off limis to Scotsmen? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati, Talmud, Marx, Jesuit trained Clinton ... et al
Well the Marx Brothers were about as popular as Chalie Chaplin I understand.Chaplin wrote the beautiful song Limelight but after he died, someone stole his body later found in a trash bag for they did not want a Jew buried in this Swiss cemetary. Marx Brothers? Frankly I never cared for their brand of humor but they came at a time when America was being to be destroyed from within. No one ever really questioned Oswald being a Marxist and Marx hated jews.Oswald claimed to have omnipotence and power when only 15 so he was being trained well probably something like little Sirhan. These Marx brothers, Harpo, Grouch, Chico and Karl (?) had one thing in common - they all had been charged with being communists . Some people like low brow humor, I never did - I always liked a little wit involved. You guys probably all loved All In the Family, and as usual, this low brow show began in England where look at them today. When America is all one big Central Park like NYC.let us see if you are still laughing. And when all the White Farmers in South Africa are murdered and those bastards starve to death with their land looted for diamonds when they are so stupid they cannot grow food.then I will have last laugh, for I will remember the murdered White Farmers and their chidren - and as the face of America grows black with shame - well face it, the ones with the dough will go elsewhere while America dies from Aids like South Africa now dies. Anyone for Aids? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] this seems like old news, but still, here you go, Phil's in Cuba, and in busines
June 23, 2000 Infamous ex-CIA agent Philip Agee resurfaces in Cuba http://www.canoe.ca/WorldTicker/CANOE-wire.Cuba-Agee.html HAVANA (AP) -- Former CIA agent Philip Agee, a longtime friend of communist Cuba who exposed purported CIA operatives in his infamous book, has resurfaced in Havana, where he has launched what he says is the first independent American business in 40 years. With European investors and the state-run travel agent as his partner, Agee has opened a travel Web site designed specifically to bring American tourists to the island -- even if it means violating the U.S. trade embargo. The site, cubalinda.com, offers package tours within Cuba and other help with Cuban tourism that is largely off limits to Americans because of U.S. law. "I would like to see people ignore the law," Agee said at a news conference Thursday. "The idea is to disdain this law to the point that our grandfathers disdained Prohibition." Agee has long enraged supporters of U.S. sanctions on Cuba by his support of Fidel Castro's revolution and campaign to end the nearly four-decade-old embargo, which limits American tourists from spending money on the island -- effectively barring them from visiting. He has also been accused of receiving up to $1 million US in payments from the Cuban intelligence service. He has denied the accusations, which were first made by a high-ranking Cuban intelligence officer and defector in a 1992 Los Angeles Times report. Agee, 65, quit the CIA in 1969 after 12 years with the agency, working mostly in Latin America during the years that leftist movements were gaining prominence and sympathizers. His 1975 book Inside the Company: CIA Diary cited alleged CIA misdeeds against leftists in Latin America that included a 22-page list of purported agency operatives. Barbara Bush, the wife of former president George Bush -- himself a onetime CIA chief -- in her autobiography accused the book of exposing a CIA station chief, Richard Welch, who was later killed by leftist terrorists in Athens in 1975. Agee, who denied any involvement in the death, sued her for defamation and she revised the book to settle the case. Agee's U.S. passport was revoked in 1979. U.S. officials said he had threatened national security. After years of living in Hamburg, Germany -- occasionally underground, fearing CIA retribution -- Agee has decided to make Havana his home and the seat of his new business. American companies have been barred from doing business with Cuba since the embargo was imposed in the 1960s to put pressure on Castro. "I don't have a licence. I don't have permission. I haven't asked and I'm not going to, because it's a question of principle," Agee said. A spokesman at the U.S. Treasury Department in Washington said officials were unaware of Agee's plans and had no comment Thursday. Agee said he received funding for the tourism project from European investors, but declined to say how much or even who they are. "They are not especially interested in advertising the fact that they're involved with me here," Agee said, acknowledging his own infamy. The Web site, which has been partially running since February, is to launch today its first major promotion targeted at Americans -- a week-long tour during carnival festivities in July and August. Prices start at around $600 inclusive -- although not including airfare, which must be arranged separately and through a third country unless the visitor receives a Treasury Department licence, he said. The tours must be pre-paid over the Internet to a European bank account run by the company -- a rare concession to U.S. law in that the money isn't directly deposited in a Cuban account. Agee said he has received no word from the U.S. government about his dealings. But he has received threatening e-mails from people he believes are anti-Castro Cuban-American exiles in Miami, who are opposed to any dealings with Cuba. "It's always nice to know that your enemy, or that your unfriendly side, knows that you're in business," he said. FONT COLOR="#99"STEALS AND DEALS! Cheapest prices on airfare, new cars, insurance, maids, contractors, collectibles, more. Get exactly what you want at the lowest price. New FREE service! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/5746/6/_/475667/_/961865381/"BClick Here!/B/A
[CTRL] Fwd: USS LIBERTY
Here is information on USS Liberty - someone on list had sent informationi out on this. This is the ship the Israelies tried to sink - napalmed our troops for 75 minutes while they lay wounded on deck. 34 dead, 171 wounded - the idea was to sink this ship which was in intrnational waters and blame on the Egyptians. So there is an investigation I understand going on now - and most favored nation Israel will be brought into this one. Did you see one Memorial to the ship on June 8 this year other than those who lost their sons like the one lady whose son died at only 24? It seems this story hits a nerve on some people, and I say tough. International Waters and these assassins murder our men and get away with it..then they battled two years in Court trying to get out of paying for their murder? A Saba A Day to Remember Always USS LIBERTY "Attack one American and you attack all Americans" was recently proclaimed by President Clinton. More recently, an Assistant Secretary for State proclaimed that the U. S. government always protects its citizens. These are damn lies and meaningless words. These words were not true in 1967 (when Israel deliberately attacked the USS LIBERTY,) and unfortunately, and in spite of these beautiful words, they are not even true today. Moreover, there is no such thing as justice. (To see a pilot's eye picture of the USS Liberty CLICK HERE) (To see a bigger, beautiful picture of the Liberty CLICK HERE) (Israel claims they thought it was an Egyptian horse transport.) On that June day in 1967, the weather was beautiful... Clear and sunny, visibility unlimited... the LIBERTY, an elaborate state-of-the art intelligence gathering platform, was in international waters off the Gaza strip and was flying the Stars and Stripes. Israeli reconnaissance planes flew overhead for hours. Pilots and ship's crew waved to each other. Then, inexplicably, unmarked Israeli aircraft began attacking the ship. The defenseless LIBERTY radioed for help. Two aircraft carriers in the Med responded by launching fighter aircraft. Unbelievably, they were recalled by the White House. RADM Geis, then commanding the carriers in the Sixth Fleet, called Washington personally to confirm the order. SecDef McNamara came on the line, then President Johnson. Johnson indicated to Geis that the aircraft were to be returned, that he would not have his allies embarrassed, and that he didn't care who was killed or what was done to the ship. Geis, like any good sailor, recalled the aircraft. (If you have RealAudio, and click on the picture of CDR Dave Lewis at the right, you will HEAR Dave tell about his conversation with Admiral Geis.) With no help forthcoming, the LIBERTY fell an easy victim to Israel's motor torpedo boat attack. FIVE torpedoes were lobbed at the Liberty, one hit amidships and instantly killed 25 sailors. A total of 34 died in the attack. President Johnson went on television and announced to the American people that TEN sailors were killed in the "six minute accidental" attack. Sailors were ordered not to discuss the incident with ANYONE under threat of court-martial. We waited for the investigation... and for the explanations and the answers. Why did Israel attack the ship? Why did the U. S. Government turn its back on the crew members? The answers never came. There has NEVER been a congressional investigation. No congressman has the guts to even suggest such a thing. There has been a NAVY-controlled white-washed investigation of the crew's actions during the attack, but nothing else was covered. Even in this, evidence was changed, and officers who knew the answers were not asked the right questions. The attack has been a matter of controversy since 1967. Survivors and many key government officials including Secretary of State Dean Rusk and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Moorer say the attack was no accident. Two Israeli officers have come forward to admit that the attack was no accident. Yet the Israeli government and its supporters insist it was a "tragic case of misidentification" and charge that survivors and their eyewitness supporters are lying. (If you have RealAudio, click on Admiral Moorer's picture at the left and hear what he has to say about the attack.) The ship's crew is bitter. It is bitter because its own country turned its back on them... it is bitter because someone killed 34 Americans and got away with it...what's more, that its own government covered up the truth and HELPED them get away with it! "Ahhh," you say. "Anti-Semitism!" No. Many of the ship's crew are Jewish, and we have many Jewish friends. We are NOT anti-Semitic. We ARE anti-Israel. We know that Israel has controlled the American congress for years... to the point where 34 dead sailors can go un-investigated! "A man who is good enough to shed his blood for his country is good enough to be given a square deal afterwards. More than that no man is entitled to, and less than that no man shall have."
[CTRL] The Military-Nintendo Complex
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! The Military-Nintendo Complex In Orson Scott Card's science-fiction novel Enderâs Game (1985), a group of kids playing video games discover they are actually being used by the military to fight real wars. Whatâs actually happening is this: video games are being trained by kids to fight wars. Virtual combat as a recruitment tool comes next. Strafing villages as online entertainment will follow. The U.S. Armyâs Web site will offer more interactive gizmos including video games, to attract teens' attention sagging enlistment efforts aid. The military trained troops for decades with video games: it taught an entire generation to fight. In partnership with the public sector, the military/video gaming industry nurtured a cyber-savvy warrior generation. Dubbed the Military-Nintendo Complex by John Naisbitt in High Tech, High Touch (New York: Broadway Books, 1999), the suspected link between the Pentagon and video arcades has long been a hobgobblin of liberal anxiety. Eisenhower's Military-Industrial Complex morphed into a Military-Entertainment Complex (McKenzie Wark). Col. John Alexander's Project JEDI (1984) used Neuro-linguistic Programming and creative visualisation techniques; today, virtual simulations and scenario generators are commandeered to enhance the art of keeping war at your fingertips. Like arms merchants, the military also unleashed simulated warfare into the mainstream. Game designers frequently receive Pentagon funding and other assistance to create and promote such entertainment. Since turning Doom into Marine Doom, the Marine Corps Combat and Development Command (Quantico, Va.) has "evaluated more than 20 commercially available electronic games for their potential use as training tools for marines." Atariâs 1980s game BattleZone was made for the U.S. military, and used as a Bradley Fighting Vehicle training simulator, one of the U.S. arsenals' best anti-personnel devices. MAK Technologies (Cambridge, Mass.) won a 1997 Department of Defense contract to create Marine Exed Unit 2000, an amphibious assault game intended for both military and commercial markets. Interactive Magic, maker of the flight simulation game Carrier Strike Fighter, was given permission to roam the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln to film videos to ensure accurate visuals and a realistic feel. What gets a spy hanged for espionage will only get a video game designer's name on the militaryâs mailing list for upcoming events. Each year the U.S. government hosted Connections Conference war game designers and developers for a smooze. "Attendees include personnel of the Defense Intelligence Agency and game companies like GT Interactive," Naisbitt states. "Conference agendas have included such topics as 'Wargaming Design Fundamentals' and 'Department of Defense Wargaming 101.' " Well-meaning efforts to curb violent multimedia pale in comparison to designers' efforts keep raising the bar on pixilated mayhem. Raven Software and Activision released Soldier of Fortune, a first-person shooter that "stands out for its unmatched level of violence." If stimulating dormant aggressive DNA is id Software's goal, they should have received a lifetime achievement award by now. The company is promising a Doom follow-up; its prequel Wolfenstein 3-D has been clinically tested for increasing "aggressive tendencies." It is a gross oversimplification that the Military-Nintendo Complex has an entire gamers population right where they want them. The U.S. Armyâs upgrade is a desperate attempt to draw out a technologically intoxicated society of youths too emotionally downloaded to enlist. Suburban super-strata will likely stay home for Armageddon - unless it can be played out online with a Playstation2 or Dreamcast device, leaving the upcoming generation in the bad neighborhoods to play for keeps, brick-and-mortar style. The "digital divide" must make the Pentagon wonder if Americaâs underclass has the "nuts" and know-how for the one-click wars to come. Research by Douglas McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- The Information War In this 21.C magazine article, Australian cyberculture theorist McKenzie Wark proposes that Eisenhower's Military-Industrial Complex had been usurped by the Military-Entertainment Complex. Go -- -- Child's Play: Computer Games: Who's Looking Out For Your Kids? What I could never get an answer for from the ESRB was why Delta-Force, a first-person shooter, gets a "Teen" rating for shooting Asians, Columbians and Arabs, but Quake III gets a "Mature" rating for equally grotesque entertainment! Go -- -- Killology Research Group He is a retired officer whose profile was maximized after
[CTRL] Texas Doctors refuse to do autopsy of executed
Please repost-from abolish-L: Dear friends around the world of Shaka Sankofa / Gary Graham: In preparing for the memorial program for Shaka Sankofa / Gary Graham we are asking for brief messages (about one paragraph each) from Shaka's many friends and supporters around the world. We want especially to hear from all those who worked with and for Shaka over the years. Those who distributed the "Endeavor" newspaper in other countries, for instance, and those who have organized demonstrations, press coverage, etc., around the world. We need these messages by Sunday morning, Houston time (CDT), since the memorial programs will be held Wednesday night and Thursday morning, and the program must be prepared. The memorials will be held at: Northwest Community Baptist Church, Rev. James Dixon, Pastor 1000 block of Pinemont St., off N. Shepherd in Houston Ross Mortuary of Houston is handling arrangements. Wake: 6:00 to 9:00 p.m., Wednesday, June 28 Funeral: 10:00 a.m. to noon, Thursday, June 29. The family is planning a wrongful death suit against TDCJ, and must await the arrival from New York of physicians willing to perform an autopsy, since no local qualified doctors were willing to participate in a procedure which will undoubtedly implicate the powerful prison system. Shaka's injuries probably include bruised or cracked ribs and possibly internal injuries incurred in an attack by six or eight guards. He was a warrior to the end. Please let us know about any other memorials or demonstrations. Those we know about so far: New York City: demonstration against Bush at the New York Hilton, 54th St. 6th Ave., 6:00 p.m. Monday, June 26th. Brooklyn, NY: Memorial House of the Lord, Rev. Herbert Daughtry, Pastor. 6:30 p.m., Friday, July 7th. 718-596-1991 Chicago: memorial on Saturday, July 8th. No details at present. Long Live Shaka Sankofa! Moratorium NOW! In Solidarity, Texas Death Penalty Abolition Movement _ earthradioTV.com - Alternative News Portal for ecology, politics consciousness. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] earthradioTV.com MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HOOVER'S DARK SECRET IS REVEALED
Well one man left his wife because his family got into that I am a black descendent of Thomas Jefferson - and he wanted no part of it. So they had a big family reunion, the black and the tan of itand lo and behold, DNA tests then proved - hey wrong Jefferson, for Thomas Jefferson NEVER fathers any children from a black slave. So William Jefferson Clinton shame, shame shame.it is said you have a son, who is black, whom you deny.if this is true, the kid should have DNA test and if Clinton hasn't had all his blood drained with new bloodwell maybe a Clinton one hundred years from noiw will say, I am black and Clinton was my great etc. grandfather, only no self respecting black would want to admit it. So imagine that big family reunion of all the Jeffersons, and this one woman giving up her husband for he wanted no part of it.and ow they are told, no the legend is not true - for you are not related to this Thomas Jefferson. So J Edgar Hoover would have had a good laugh over this one for since the 60 period this story had been going around about his "black blood". Why? Is it a crime? So another poor soul makes a fast buck? And someday someone will come around and say - hey, wrong Hoover - or was it. Seems I heard this story about Hitler.Churchill had coconut boys working overtime trying to prove Hitler, was Jewish? Times change, people do notanything for the buckonly the price has gone up and guess who controls the major publishing houses? Who cares? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
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[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Letter to All Republicans
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Dear Brigade, This letter is from the Chairman of the Michigan Republican Assembly. It is both powerful and compelling. Please post it everywhere a Republican -- on the Net and off -- might see it, especially conservative Republicans. Is you Dad a Republican? Print it out for him. How about your neighbors? Mail it to them. Most important is that you contact the Republican Assembly in your state. Remember, their motto says that they are the "Republican wing of the Republican Party". The National Federation of Republican Assemblies conducted their national convention in Kansas City about a week before Pat moved to the Reform Party. There were over 300 delegates in attendance representing 40 states. There was only one vote cast for Bush. The convention ended without endorsing a candidate because it takes a 2/3 majority to endorse. Forbes fell short of endorsement by only 1 or 2%. The rest of the votes went to Pat. It was a major victory because it was common knowledge that Pat was going to leave the party and he still had enough support to prevent a Forbes endorsement. George W. Bush received only one vote. He was never the choice of these conservative Republicans! You can go to any search engine on the web. I used HotBot: http://hotbot.lycos.com/ Type in "Republican Assemblies" and look for listings in your state. Then get the contact info and mail all of them a copy of this letter. You can also search for other Republican sites and send it to them as well. Brigade, please read this letter and then get it into the hands of every conservative Republican across the USA. I know I'm always asking you to forward my emails, but this time I hope every single member of this list will heed the call. For the Cause, Linda -- From: Mark A. Forton - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chairman - Michigan Republican Assembly June 8, 2000 Dear Republican Assembly Leaders, The Republican Assembly movement has come along way since 1996 when our friends in California and Arizona decided that a national movement was necessary. The development of 38 additional state organizations in just three years gives testimony to the determination of our nations conservatives to avoid being "Doled again". However, in spite of our best efforts, that is exactly what happened. For the third time we are forced out of the process and must witness a battle between two liberals, Bush vs. Gore. We are forced to spend another election cycle listening to the Robertsons, Falwells, Right to Lifers, NRA, the "Save the Canal" crowd, and a myriad of so called conservative leaders and organizations trying for the third time to convince us that the liberal Republican is better than the liberal Democrat. They will use all the old excuses, from appointments of judges to the necessity of protecting a majority in Congress; a wimpy majority with no heart for a fight. The major failures of the Republican Congress to make advances or to prevent losses on our traditional issues like Abortion, Taxes, 2nd Amendment Rights, and Big Government are just the tip of the legislative iceberg that has slammed into our Ship of State. Under a Republican Majority: 1. We have taken the great Reagan victory against the "Evil Empire" and transformed our great Republic into its replacement. Slandering our reputation around the world by attacking an independent nation with no value to our national interests. 2. We have turned an outdated defensive alliance (NATO) into a dangerous offensive bully and extended its influence to the very borders of Russia. We have isolated the hurting Russian people and forced them to seek alliances elsewhere. Such action has raised their hatred toward America and serves only the Russian Communists who are running around saying " told you so" in an attempt to regain power. 3. The "Free Traitor" Republicans have built up the Communists in Red China much to our peril. Massive transfers of high technology, heavy manufacturing, and huge trade deficits failed to change the attitude of this belligerent nation towards our friends or us. Their missiles are still pointed at us and it is no secret that their leaders openly state that they expect a war with the U.S. in the near future. Why do our Republicans support this MFN? Because they enjoy using the Communists to provide slave labor for American Multinational corporations. "Liberty be damned! Profits over everything!" 4. They have opened our boarders to unlimited and uncontrolled immigration in order to drive down the price of American labor without regard to the consequences to the American people in the areas of health, natural resources, crime, drugs, education or other social programs. They covet the incomes of American working people over everything else. The very people who helped give them overwhelming victories in 80, 84, 88, and 94. 5. They work to drive down the cost of skilled labor by
[CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God, Part I of II
This two-part compendium on HAARP is posted as a research document on electronic warfare and mind control, for the record. You may agree with parts of it, and diagree with others but at least it is on public record for those who are concerned about the risk assessment of HAARP, on the ionophere, on dimensionality, on population mind control and other impacts. Alfred Webre = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Armageddon or New Age?) http://members.aol.com/phikent/god.txt http://members.aol.com/phikent/haarp2.htm Kent Steadman's graphics Upon further examination it might be possible that the proportions in the patterns emanating from HAARP in fact exhibit the Golden Ratio. looks like the HAARPsters have discovered the hidden sine wave in the Fibonacci series--those sly devils. When they juice up HAARP on the 23rd, we might all just see the everywhere-shape--expect a brilliant white light that penetrates all. (please note: the above date is in legitimate question)** I think HAARPster-hamster agenda is to throw up a shield around the planet. Why? I wonder (who-what) is in approach to earth? You will be able to see through closed eyes. HAARP would summon-fabricate God--now that could backfire in their faces! I have mapped out this HAARP-Golden ratio thing in the enclosed attachment; furthermore, I have interpreted with a gif construction animation under the heading, "Fabricating God" at: http://members.aol.com/phikent/haarp.htm Those of you who are discussing the BLUE STAR concept, consider that a five-pointed star is also a representation of the Golden Mean as is the dodecahedron, which some think is the basic crystaline endoskeleton of the earth and the basis for the earth grid concept. Might be a good research to identify the exact position of the HAARP array (and other sister installations)relative to the earth grid. SEE: Wondrous Geometry on Mars at: http://members.aol.com/phikent/display.htm We are in for a wild ride! .. I enhanced to bring out the bands of energy on HAARP cam image: This picture was taken: 3/10/97; 3:16:52 PM Alaska Time. 3/11/97; 12:16:52 AM UTC http://server5550.itd.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/cgi.cam.fcgi Image attached as well as posted at: http://members.aol.com/phikent/haarp.htm Nice try, but you've just demonstrated "banding" (an image artifact caused by reducing the number of colors available to display an image). In addition, radio waves do not image onto photographs. I intentionally reduced the colors in order to give shape to the radiant-signature that I perceived to be there. According to legend and paltry few notes Tesla discovered a radiant energy quite separate from normal EM frequencies. This phenomenon, perhaps beyond E=M, seemed to pass through, or exist beyond, molecular(ly)-identified structures that would normally provide shielding from electromagnetic fields. Under certain conditions the aether can be seen with the naked eye. I thought I saw this familiar blue etheric glow in the HAARP cam image. Again, I made an intentional effort to reduce the colors to in order augment the emanating crescent SHAPE of "radiant", not radio, phenomenon. Shape as expressed through geometry is a better vehicle for identifying radiant effect--as opposed to wave or photon theory which speaks for the (lesser or stepped-down toward 3D) electromagnetic effect. A study of dynamic symmetry, for instance the golden ratio, would help to understand radiant FORM. Please think SHAPE as opposed to frequency. Radiant phenomenon is neither matter nor energy--there seems to be something else--in times yore identified as aether. The correct approach in understanding the aether would be toward the gestalt geometry of the universe. HAARP is a Tesla device, not Marconi--the clue. When they power up HAARP, depending on how the device is tuned, we will see that shape-from-everywhere. Kent Steadman ** question of date At 10:47 AM 3/12/97 -0600, you wrote: Speaking of the HAARP turn on for the 23rd..Does this have anything to do with Hale-Bopp approaching the earth at it's closest point around then??? No. There is NO known HAARP Pturn-on planned for the 23rd. Yet more unsourced misinformation on this list. According to the U.S. Navy in an answer to my query: "We are conducting a science research effort currently. This test period will be completed at the end of this week. The next set of tests has not been scheduled as of now." (I've asked for a clarification on this and Kent is checking some of his sources for the unofficial story.) A lot of people (including me) are monitoring shortwave signals from HAARP, so there's no way for them to transmit without our knowing it. By the way, in case you're interested,
[CTRL] HAARP - Fabricating God - Part II of II
Part II of II = Date sent:Tue, 01 Jul 1997 22:48:16 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "A.J. Craddock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HAARP - More Disturbing News HAARP has always had a bad smell to it, and this erudite and credible post raises the ugly specter of us paying for one Government Program to destroy another. One wonders what HAARP's true purpose really is? Tony Craddock Web Administrator CSETI http://www.cseti.org To: Jeane Manning I have read two of your books, "The Coming Energy Revolution," and "Angels Don't Play this Haarp." Thank you for the excellent expositional works. They have meant alot to me. I found out about you through an old friend, Walt Rosenthal. He encouraged me to share my ideas with you, so here goes the first one. In thinking about the HAARP project, I started thinking about what it means to spacecraft within that region of the ionosphere, and I mean normal everyday spacecraft such as the space shuttle and satellites. It means very bad things. Even if they limit themselves to increasing the charge particle density to only double or triple, ionospheric heating still means more energetic particles on average, and this will have catastrophic effects on certain spacecraft materials. I have just completed a three year study of ionospheric interactions with the new International Space Station, and even though the problem is still very fresh in my mind, it took awhile for me to grasp what an ionospheric heater is really doing, then it took me even longer to analyze these effects and apply understand the ramifications on my recent work. If I understand you correctly, we could start out by saying that the ionosphere is comprised primarily of Atomic Oxygen. In its natural state (before the invention of electricity) a fraction of this oxygen (and the other constituent gases) was constantly being ionized by solar and other radiations. The ionized atoms would then re-combine with an electron (usually within milliseconds) to lose their charge. Thus an equilibrium condition was reached, where depending on the level of solar activity, the portion of the atmospheric gases in that region settled in the ballpark of 0.01 - 0.1% ionized gas at any one time. This condition began to change however, with the advent of hi-power transmission equipment and power lines. The new technology affected both the ionization and re-combination processes, and resulted in localized effects to the ionosphere. Now enter spacecraft into the picture. NASA has been fighting a war for a decade on the effects that Atomic Oxygen has on polymer spacecraft materials. Essentially what's happening is that Atomic Oxygen is ramming into the weak organic chemical bonds at orbital + thermal velocities, and eroding away the material slowly. This is essentially the same thing that will happen with the ionized portion of the ionosphere as well, but only if the particular spacecraft structure is electrically neutral. As a detail point, the ionized atoms tend to be at the higher end of the gasses' energy distribution, because once they become ionized they become accelerated by electric forces. Conversely, atoms which are ionized by deliberate application of EM fields get accelerated by that same EM field, hence the effect of raising temperature. The ionospheric heater fits in here I now realize. And it is insanity. Consider the effects on the new thin-film Space Station Solar Arrays. They do not have the property of being electrically neutral in the ionosphere by any means. 1,000 to 20,000 times a second, the entire EM field surrounding them is collapsed by the voltage regulating SSU (non-shunt) circuit controller, and herein lies the problem. The copper circuitry is covered by 2 - 10 mil thick polymers like Kapton. When we analyzed the naturally occuring effects that the ionized portion of the ionosphere has on the arrays in 1994, we found the following interesting fact. The AC electric field present in the array circuitry switches 140 volts at 1 khz, and couples like a capacitor to the ions through the Kapton dielectric. The ions then slam the charged particles into the array polymers with a velocity fifty times greater than the orbital/thermal velocities of the non-charged gasses. That's like 2,000 times the energy in the collision. The result is that these atoms now have enough energy to damage copper and steel. The process is well known as ion sputtering. When we completed our analysis, the result was within an order of magnitude of saying that the arrays would not survive the requisite fifteen years. We argued and argued and eventually NASA took responsibility of the problem from us. AKA it disappeared. We based our analysis on the 1986 model of the ionosphere which takes no man-made ionospheric effects into account. If
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati, Talmud, Marx,Jesuit trained Clinton ... et al
--- Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a hunch, but is Aleisha, really another one of Collen Jones, "virtual personalities."??? I figured that out by about her second post, but didn't feel like announcing it. Tenorlove large spool of rope by side. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SNET: Communist Party (D) - Communist Party (R) (fwd)
visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:50:14 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: Communist Party (D) - Communist Party (R) - SNETNEWS Mailing List Subj:How To Be A Good Bureaucrat Date:6/24/00 10:43:46 AM CDT From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Agnes Allen) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HOW TO BE A GOOD BUREAUCRAT 1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding. 2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can¦t teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex. 3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists. 4. You have to believe that there was no art before federal funding. 5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the earth¦s climate, and more affected by yuppies driving SUVs. 6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural. 7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand; in short, you support protecting the guilty and killing the innocent. 8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity . 9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature but loony activists who've never been outside of Seattle do. 10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it. 11. You have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars. 12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution. 13. You have to believe that taxes are too low but ATM fees are too high. 14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E.Lee, or Thomas Edison. 15. You Have to believe that standardized tests are racist but racial quotas and set-asides aren't . Because the right people haven't been in charge. 16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady. 17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn¦t worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge. 18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail but a liar and probable sex offender belongs in the White House. 19. You have to believe that a homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally-protected and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal. 20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
In a message dated 6/22/00 8:32:48 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A, she looks in the mirror and realizes that "time marches on"and yeah, Turner is a NWO/UN supporter...she was too most likely until she realized that his eye was more easily averted by wimmin' who were actually attractive in the HERE and NOW! At that point Jeeezus is the only option...one can have only so much cosmetic surgery Of course. Her appearance was her only attribute of note. What possible value could a woman have after the beauty of her prime? Looks like all us wimmin'-folk will be headin' for Jzus real soon. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] LONDON PAPER: MEL GIBSONS PATRIOT IS A PHONY!
Sender's Note - "... the Fabian Society is a cabal of world leaders intent on taking over the global economy." The Patriot Mel Gibson. by Neil Norman Perhaps it's because he's an honorary Australian. Or maybe it's just that he is a Hollywood film star, but the small but perfectly formed Mel Gibson seems to have it in for the English in a big way. In for another round: Mel Gibson comes back for a second crack at the English Not content with allying himself with the hairy-kneed porridge-munchers in a ludicrous travesty of British history with Braveheart, Mad Mel is now having another bash at the English with his historical epic, The Patriot, in which Gibson stars as Benjamin Martin, a colonial militiaman in the American War of Independence whose guerrilla exploits against the Redcoats in the swamps of the Carolinas earned him the sobriquet the Swamp Fox. Judging by the reaction so far to the film, which opens in the US on 28 June, the English are not only in for a thorough pasting from Mel and his band of motley guerrillas but also a comprehensive character assassination. To a man, the dastardly English are depicted as heartless toffs and machiavels, war criminals and child-killers. As Jason Isaacs, who plays the British baddie, Col William Tavington, remarked recently: "I'm Satan in this film. I'm a nasty, evil British officer and Mel comes after me like a warrior possessed." But possessed of what, exactly? Certainly not intelligent objectivity and partiality. What with traducing the historical facts (as far as we know them) into the colour of money and anti-English sentiment for Braveheart, Gibson's latest venture looks increasingly as if he has an agenda above and beyond the $25 million paycheck he allegedly received for The Patriot. It's a long way and a lot of dollars in the bank since Gallipoli, in which Gibson played an Australian athlete who joined the Anzacs in the First World War only to be sent to certain death by - you guessed it - incompetent English officers. It is entirely possible that Gibson, who was born in Peerskill, New York and did not arrive in Australia until the age of 12, has bought into the Australian legacy of English-hating - an atavistic resentment against the policy of transportation of convicts; then again, Gibson, who is a devout Catholic, possibly subscribes to a headily romantic view of Celtic republicanism that finds merit in the perennial resistance of the underdog nations (Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall) against their merciless oppressor, England. Or maybe he is just getting his own back against English critics who have failed to take him seriously enough. Then again, to pursue an anti-English agenda in Hollywood is a crowd-pleasing tactic and a cheap way of earning the plaudits (and bucks) of the home team. As every Hollywood casting agent knows, the devil speaks with an English accent. The fact that he didn't actually direct The Patriot (as he did Braveheart) matters not a jot; his involvement legitimizes the enterprise and indicates an endorsement of the film's warped sentiments. Once director Roland Emmerich got involved as director (formerly of Godzilla and all points SFX blockbuster) it was clear that historical accuracy was never going be high on the agenda. With Gibson on board the primary aim for the movie was big box-office success. Therefore, it was necessary to rewrite the "hero" - the real-life Francis Marion, a thoroughly unpleasant dude who was, basically, a terrorist - to a level of palatability that is more appropriate for the wholesome Mr Gibson. A devout traditional Catholic with seven children by his wife Robyn Moore to prove it, Gibson's inclination is towards the more reactionary political sentiment. To wit, he has pronounced against abortion, has said he would encourage his own children to take up weapons in self-defence and believes that the Fabian Society is a cabal of world leaders intent on taking over the global economy. The man appears confused. Now we find him whitewashing the character of Francis Marion who, according to a recent article in the Daily Express, had a reputation as a racist who hunted Indians for sport and regularly raped his female slaves. According to Christopher Hibbert, a British expert on the American Revolution, Marion "was a wily and elusive character, very active in the persecution of Cherokee Indians and not at all the sort of chap who should be celebrated as a hero. ... The truth is that people like Marion committed atrocities as bad if not worse than those perpetrated by the British." Given his penchant for conspiracy theories (he even appeared in a film of that title as a paranoid taxi driver), Gibson may not be the most reliable ambassador for the "special relationship" that purportedly exists between England and America. But as to why he seems to have such a chip on his shoulder about the English, I am at a loss. Perhaps when you've had as many demons of your own as
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati, Talmud, Marx,Jesuit trained Clinton ...
In a message dated 6/24/00 1:39:18 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a hunch, but is Aleisha, really another one of Collen Jones, "virtual personalities."??? I figured that out by about her second post, but didn't feel like announcing it. Tenorlove large spool of rope by side. But so many things are different from Colleen's posts, most notably the spelling, grammar and syntax - not to mention the overall clarity. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam
Hey Samwhat about some of these men - you go to bed at night with Dr. Jekyell and wake up with Mr. Hyde? Married 20 years and suddenly the guy like rabbit, wants to roam? You cannot tame wild things for too long. Take you choiceDr. Jekyell or Mr. Hyde and when their personalities fuse maybe you get a crazy mixed up kid for the rest of your life, like Ted Turner. Goodbye Rip Van Winkle - he sobered up. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
Lizzie was later seen, and attested to to, having burned a dress that did have blood stains on it. The implicit suggestion by the defense was that it was menstrual blood though why she didn't wash it and chose to burn it was never satisfactorily explained by Lizzie. Jamieson On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reference Lizzie Borden - 20 whacks with an axe and from what I read I would not have blamed here. One recent TV movie hinted Lizzie's sister did it. Such a brutal crime for two sweet ladies hard to believe. If your only information regarding the Borden murders is via movies, your knowledge is sorely lacking. By the way, it wasn't '40 Whacks', the children's ditty not withstanding... Emma, Lizzie's older sister, wasn't home that day...she had left to stay with friends at the shore a week before...so how could she have been in two places at once? Lizzie was seen shortly before the murders outside in the yard (she testified she'd been out in the barn when the murders occurred), just minutes after her father came home from work; it was only minutes after her father had been murdered when she called the maid downstairs to tell her of her (Lizzie's) father being murdered...Lizzie was composed, wearing the same dress she had worn all morning, and didn't have any blood on her self or her clothes... The murder weapon was never found (altho the Fall River police did finally take one broken ax from the house that was later claimed by the prosecution to have been the murder weapon even though there were no traces of blood on it and the broken handle had obviously been broken for some time because it wasn't a new break)... So how could Lizzie have given her father 11 whacks with an ax, causing blood to splatter on the wall behind the father and not get any blood on herself, and be able to successfully hide the murder weapon in a very tiny house? There was only a 20 minute time frame for Andrew Borden to have been murdered in, which makes it almost impossible for Lizzie to have killed her father... The mob cried Give us Barabas..while Judas gave the kiss of death - the informer? It was that Italian mob all the time? "Give us Barrabas" is a legend, nothing more. There is no evidence that Barrabas even existed. And the Roman authorities would never have given up a prisoner condemned to be crucified because the residents of Jerusalem asked them to. Those condemned to be crucified were condemned of high crimes and misdemeanors against the Roman state, and wouldn't have been pardoned because a rabble asked... "The kiss of death"...? Again, Jesus' whole reason for being was as a sacrifice for our collective sins...in other words, God's plan would have been meaningless if Jesus had lived to a ripe old age and died in His sleep of natural causes So everyone that factored in Jesus' 'betrayal' was part of God's plan...and that includes Judas... But there are some clues that the commonly accepted 'facts' of Judas are skewed to present a picture that is not quite accurate... In one part of the New Testament it's claimed Judas hanged himself...in another part it mentions he was found with his throat cut... Hard to cut one's throat and then hang oneself, eh? But in the bible too, they do say The Camels Are Coming. What book and verse? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy
[CTRL] Date: 23 June 2000 Federalist #00-25.dgst Part 2
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Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War!
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INSIGHT
"To know That which before us lies in daily life Is the prime wisdom."
--John Milton {} "At all times sincere friends of freedom have been
rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities" --Lord Acton
{} "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody
endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --Frederic
Bastiat. {} "I say: Know your enemy and know yourself; in a hundred
battles, you will never be defeated. When you are ignorant of the
enemy but know yourself, your chances of winning or losing are equal.
If ignorant both of your enemy and of yourself, you are sure to be
defeated in every battle." --Sun Tzu {} "Do not do an immoral
thing for moral reasons." --Thomas Hardy {} "Fanaticism consists in
redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." --George
Santayana {} "There ain't no way to find out why a snorer can't hear
himself snore." --Mark Twain {} "Curiosity is one of the permanent
and certain characteristics of a vigorous mind." --Samuel Johnson {}
"Men desire to have some share of the management of public affairs
chiefly on account of the importance which it gives them." --Adam
Smith
"A comprehended god is no god." --St. John Chrysostom
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THE GOOD NEWS
"Blessed are they who maintain justice, who constantly do what is
right." (Psalm 106:3)
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UPRIGHT
"There is a war being waged right now on prayer and religion by
liberals who are taking every opportunity to make America as God-less
as possible." -- J.C. Watts ++ "[The Supreme Court] disregards the
intention of the framers of the Establishment Clause, which was to
ensure government neutrality between religious factions, not between
religion and irreligion." --George Will. ++ "Allowing students to
speak about their faith in public in their own words does not create a
government endorsement of religion. The Court has made a high school
student an agent of the state and then censored her prayer." --Jan
LaRue {} "This is a very, very, very, very, very -- in case you
hadn't heard so a thousand times already -- diverse society. ... The
culture of 'tolerance' isn't making us happier, it's making us more
fractious. ... The apostles of 'tolerance' seem not to know what it is
to tolerate what they disagree with or fail to understand." --William
Murchison ++ "Decades of liberal assaults on traditional values and
institutions are bearing fruit. It appears that we will ignore the
wisdom of the centuries and find out the hard way whether our society
can survive a perverted redefinition of marriage and the
disintegration of the basic family." --Linda Bowles {} "The news
business frets a lot about its sins. But it doesn't fret much about
class attitudes and the homogenization of opinion in the newsroom. It
should." --John Leo {} "Conservatives are typically the Rodney
Dangerfields of the culture. They don't get no respect. At their best
they're elitists. At their worst they're stodgy, stiff and humorless."
--Suzanne Fields {} "Conservatives must judge issues by prudence and
principle, not by the shadows cast by our opponents." --National
Review {} "Above all, ascribe no decent motives to the federal
government. Always and everywhere, it is the enemy of truth."
--Llewellyn H. Rockwell {} "Mission creep is not unique to Congress.
It is endemic to all arms of the federal government" --Bruce Fein
{} "Relativists believe they've discovered the ultimate weapon
against the sense of right and wrong -- a hydrogen bomb for the
culture war and a doomsday machine against conscience. What is it? The
accusation of 'intolerance'." --Chuck Colson {} "The tragedy of
communism is precisely that it systematically and fanatically
interposes the impersonal and malignant power of the state between
every authentic human relationship so that, finally, parents and
children and even spouses cannot be truly together even in their own
homes." --Alan Keyes {} "There are only two economists in Congress
and hundreds of lawyers. Does that explain why the government is in
such a mess?" --Thomas Sowell {} "Truth has become as elusive as a
bat on a foggy night. It's enough to keep a fellow from a good night's
sleep." --Charley Reese {} "...[I]f we care about our remaining
liberties we must at some point draw a line in the sand and let
politicians and bureaucrats know we will not tolerate further
encroachment on our God-given rights to liberty." --Walter E. Williams
{} "...[H]istory is one of the most rewarding of studies. If nothing
else, it can teach us about the abiding tendencies of men and rulers.
If you know something of the Roman emperors, the Clintons won't take
you by surprise." --Joseph Sobran {} "The path of desire is littered
with victims." --J.R. Nyquist
[CTRL] Date: 23 June 2000 Federalist #00-25.dgst Part 1
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! * Veritas Vos Liberabit * THE FEDERALIST(r) DIGEST The Conservative e-Journal of Record Date: 23 June 2000 Federalist #00-25.dgst To retrieve today's Digest as HTML printer-friendly text or PDF, link to: http://www.Federalist.com/current00-2.asp To support or sponsor The Federalist, link to: http://www.Federalist.com/support.asp __O__ THE FOUNDATION "When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." --Thomas Jefferson __O__ FEDERALIST PERSPECTIVE In the news this week, the Supremes ruled that Texas public school districts can't let students lead a crowd in prayer before football games. "School sponsorship of a religious message is impermissible because it sends the ancillary message to members of the audience who are nonadherents that they are outsiders, not full members of the political community, and an accompanying message to adherents that they are insiders, favored members of the political community," wrote Justice John Paul Stevens. Memo to Justice Stevens: Does this cover all the "New Age" babble being uttered in the classroom? We will buy you a steak dinner if you can find the words "separation of church and state" -- or anything even close to those words -- in our Constitution, a document which, its author said in the Federalist Papers, should never be subject to "interpretation." Stevens added, "Fundamental rights may not be submitted to a vote." We think that is precisely what the majority of the court did in this case. "There is nothing in the Constitution giving the Supreme Court the authority to decide the constitutionality of federal laws, let alone state laws," notes Von Mises Institute scholar Lew Rockwell. "These dictators in black have no authority to tell a Texas school that it may not have prayer before a football game. The First Amendment simply prevents the feds from establishing a religion; the states are free to do as they choose." More to the point, the RNC's Jim Nicholson says, "Six of nine Supreme Court justices have chosen to severely weaken the First Amendment's explicit guarantee of freedom of religious expression." Our favorite Demo agitator, Rep. James Traficant added, "The Supreme Court says pornography is OK and it is OK to burn the flag, that communists can work in our defense plants, that it is OK to teach witchcraft in our schools and that it is OK for our students to write papers about the devil. But the Supreme Court says it is illegal to write papers about Jesus, it is illegal to pray in school, and now the Supreme Court says it is even illegal to pray before a football game. .. I thought the Founders intended to create a Supreme Court, not the Supreme Being. Think about that statement. I yield back a Supreme Court that is so politically correct they are downright stupid, so stupid they could throw themselves at the ground and miss." The Federalist position in this case is, of course, that decisions about prayers in public settings should be left to the several states, which would be well-advised to then remand particular decisions to localities and school districts. This case is a fine example of why the Founders opposed direct taxation. The federal government forcibly takes money from taxpayers in every state, then returns to those states the portion of those taxes not consumed by the bureaucracies' "handling fee" -- in this case, by the U.S. Department of Education -- along with all the central government's mandates in tow. Thus, the fact that schools use "federalized" dollars is cited as "justification" for such asinine federal bench rulings. For almost forty years, the High Court has endeavored to remove any acknowledgement of God from schools. Of this ruling, Chief Justice William Rehnquist notes in his dissenting opinion, "Even more disturbing than its holding is the tone of the court's opinion: It bristles with hostility to all things religious in public life." The ruling may well have broader implications for other "public square" expressions of faith. This seems an appropriate place to make a point about the "centrist" leanings of George W. versus the radical left policies of Al Gore. While our Editorial Board takes exception to Mr. Bush's "rush to the center," the fact remains that the next president may replace as many as three Supreme Court justices (including William Rehnquist, who is 75 years old). The Court now precariously hangs in 5-4 balance on most major issues, including federalism. While our Editorial Board would most like to see a trustworthy conservative like Dr. Alan Keyes making those appointments from the White House, the thought of Al Gore making those appointments is, to say the least, unsettling! This is why our Editorial Board makes the recommendation that conservative activists dedicate their
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati, Talmud, Marx,Jesuit trained Clinton ...
In a message dated 6/24/00 1:47:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But so many things are different from Colleen's posts, most notably the spelling, grammar and syntax - not to mention the overall clarity. Saba is Colleen...no doubt! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pentagon: China is preparing for high-tech war with US.
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Pentagon: China is preparing for high-tech war with US. By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES China is building up military forces in preparation for a possible conflict with the United States over Taiwan involving high-technology warfare, according to a Pentagon report obtained by The Washington Times. The unclassified version of the annual report to Congress states that "a cross-strait conflict between China and Taiwan involving the United States has emerged as the dominant scenario guiding [People's Liberation Army] force planning, military training and war preparation." The report states that Chinese military leaders are considering a major escalation of its military building as a result of NATO's air war against Yugoslavia. And as a result of the U.S. bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, the report says, China is discussing ways to "offset U.S. power, to include accelerating military modernization, pursuing strategic cooperation with Russia, and increasing China's proliferation activities abroad." "China's resolve to employ military force . . . should not be discounted," the report says. As for U.S. involvement in defending Taiwan, the report said, China "would employ all means necessary in the hope of inflicting high casualties and weakening the intervening party's resolve." The report is expected to play a major role in the Pentagon's upcoming Quadrennial Defense Review to begin next year. The review in the past has pitted defense planners who have sought to play down the threat from China against other officials who contend the United States must prepare now to deal with China's growing military power. The report states that China is seeking to become "the dominant power in Asia." The report outlines China's development of new weapons and high technology including information warfare, laser and anti-satellite weapons, and new missiles, ships and aircraft. Opposite Taiwan, Chinese missile forces pose a growing danger to the region, the report says. The Chinese military is acquiring an array of weapons that could be used in a "pre-emptive strike" against Taiwan, including long-range cruise missiles, air-launched bombs and short-range ballistic missiles, the report says. The report states that Beijing's missile force will "grow substantially" with new missile facilities being built opposite Taiwan. The new bases mean China could attack the island "with little or no warning." "Should China decide to attack Taiwan, Beijing's goal would be to erode Taipei's will to fight with sufficient alacrity to avoid escalation of the conflict and potential third party intervention in the hope of forcing a political resolution in Beijing's favor," the report says. The Chinese military currently has a limited capability to conduct operations involving naval, air and missile strikes, which could benefit Taiwan's ability to survive an initial attack, the report says. "A PLA amphibious invasion of Taiwan probably would be preceded by a naval blockade, air assaults and missile attacks on Taiwan," the report says. "Airborne, airmobile and special operations forces likely would conduct simultaneous attacks to the rear of Taiwan's coastal defenses to seize a port, preferably in close proximity to an airfield." The report projects that China's military advantage over Taiwan could continue to grow in the 2010-to-2020 time period. The report makes little mention of the heightened tensions between China and Taiwan after a dispute over Taiwan President Lee Teng-hui's July 1999 statements about relations with China. "During the summer," the report says, "PLA ground, naval air and strategic rocket forces reportedly conducted exercises that . . . probably were tailored to intimidate Taiwan.". The report states that for the first time China used its new Russian-made Su-27 fighter bombers as a "show of force" in the Taiwan Strait. U.S. officials who have seen the classified version of the report say the public version appears to have been modified to play down the more ominous elements of Chinese military activities, such as Beijing's recent threats against the United States and Taiwan. Chinese military writings recently warned that China is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the United States if it intervenes in a conflict between China and Taiwan. China's government issued a report last year that gave a new condition for the use of force against the island. Beijing will use military force to reunite the island if it fails to negotiate reunification, the Chinese "white paper" states. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati, Talmud, Marx,Jesuit trained Clinton ...
Whata is in a name - for a rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and be as sweet (improved upon Shakespeare here)..so what is in a name. Colleen sounds like a wonderful, Irish girl with great sense of humor, or she couldn't last too long on any list.So turn loose the Hounds of Hell...who the crap cares. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dubys's Missing Records
Records of Bush Guard Serive Sought By Chris Williams Associated Press Writer Saturday, June 24, 2000; 1:09 a.m. EDT AUSTIN, Texas ââ Gov. George W. Bush's campaign workers have concluded that no documents exist showing he reported for duty as ordered in Alabama with the Texas Air National Guard in 1972. They are looking for people who served with him to verify his story that he did. Dan Bartlett, a spokesman for Bush's Republican presidential campaign, said he reviewed another 200-page packet of documents last week from the National Guard's records repository in Denver. "I have read it, and there is nothing earth-shattering," he said. The campaign was looking for payroll records that would show Bush reported for duty with the Guard in Montgomery, Ala., while working on the unsuccessful Senate campaign of former Postmaster General Winton Blount. The new records were mostly duplicates of documents obtained by the campaign from the Texas National Guard headquarters in Austin about 18 months ago. "The official records were either lost or misplaced or not filled out correctly or not deposited. We are not sure," Bartlett said. Roberto Trinidad, freedom of information officer for the Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver, said the military does not retain the sort of records Bush campaign officials are seeking. "His payroll records are not here," Trinidad said. The military saves only the most important personnel records for 50 years. Less important documents, including check stubs, are destroyed. Bush, campaigning in Tuscaloosa, Ala., on Friday, was asked at a news conference about his 1972 Alabama service. His commitment to the Texas Guard was adjusted to let him serve with the Alabama Guard during Blount's campaign. "I was there on a temporary assignment and fulfilled my weekends at one period of time," Bush said. "I made up some missed weekends." "I can't remember what I did, but I wasn't flying because they didn't have the same airplanes. I fulfilled my obligations," he said. Expanding on Bush's remarks later, campaign spokesman Ari Fleischer quoted Bush as saying he did "paper shuffling" in Montgomery. "He thinks it was desk work," said Fleischer. Bartlett said the campaign is now focusing its attention on trying to locate people who served with Bush in late 1972 in the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in the Alabama capital. The campaign was surprised in late May when retired Gen. William Turnipseed said Bush did not report to him, although the young airman was required to do so. His orders, dated Sept. 15, 1972, said: "Lieutenant Bush should report to Lt. Col. William Turnipseed, DCO, to perform equivalent training." "To my knowledge, he never showed up," Turnipseed said last month. Bush served as a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard from May 1968 to October 1973, primarily flying F-102 fighter-interceptors at Ellington Air Force Base, south of Houston. He received a three-month transfer to Alabama to work as political director of Blount's Senate campaign. Blount, postmaster general from 1968-71, was a friend of Bush's father, former President George Bush. Spokesman Bartlett said Bush remembers meeting Turnipseed and performing drills in Montgomery sporadically during the campaign and more frequently after the election in November and December. "Governor Bush specifically remembers pulling duty in Alabama at the end of the campaign," Bartlett said. The Associated Press reviewed nearly 200 pages of Bush's military records released by the National Guard Bureau in Arlington, Va. They contained no evidence that Bush reported for duty in Alabama. Bob Stein, a political science professor at Rice University in Houston, said the gap in the military record will become an issue only if Bush's story changes. Bill Clinton's avoidance of the draft did not hurt him in his 1992 election campaign against Bush's father, a decorated World War II veteran and the incumbent president, so a gap in Bush's military records will not matter, Stein said. "It is just not an issue, unless the very act of asking the question forces the candidate to deceive or to lie," he said. Bush was honorably discharged to reserve duty in October 1973 to attend Harvard Business School. He left the Guard for good in November 1974, records obtained by the AP show. âââ On the Net: http://www.georgewbush.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust
[CTRL] The Ghoul in Your Tank
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Ghoul in Your Tank Date: Sunday, June 18, 2000 8:25 AM From: Howard Rothenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: Soaring Gas Prices - SNETNEWS Mailing List The Ghoul in Your Tank by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. http://www.lewrockwell.com/ Welcome to June 2000, the month in which new federal gasoline regulations have come into effect for a third of the country. The mandate that some cities sell reformulated gasoline (RFG) caused market supplies to drop, just at the time when gasoline demand increased for summer travel. No surprise, gas prices soared to over $2 a gallon in Chicago, where the new regs hit the hardest. Everywhere, prices are reaching above the $1.65 range, a post-Gulf War high. It's the government's way of making sure that this summertime, the livin' won't be easy. During the winter months the Clinton administration worried more intensely about the high price of oil. A few months back, when prices were last spiraling upward, there was some concern about low-income families in the Northeast not being able to heat their homes. Gas prices also took a jump so Congress began talking about repealing Clinton's 4.3 cents tax on gasoline. But fortunately for the White House, super-cold weather never materialized, so all talk of reducing artificially inflated prices by any means ceased. More decisively, someone told the Republicans that repealing the Clinton gas tax would mean that Congress would have less money to spend. They thought about that, and quickly changed their minds. But now that summer is here, and oil prices are up again, there's no more concern about poor people shivering their way through winter; in summer, the only people harmed are middle-class vacationers driving gas-guzzlers archetypical real Americans and who cares about them? And yet, consumers want answers and the government is glad to give them, even when it means telling outrageous lies. "We think the prices that are being charged are unfair and inappropriate," Robert Perciasepe, an assistant EPA administrator, told the press, just before summoning oil producers before the DC Politburo. We know that no institution is in a better position to discover and punish unfair and inappropriate behavior than the Clinton administration. You merely compare the cost of production of gas to its price. If there's a problem, you conclude, as has the monstrous Energy Secretary Bill Richardson, that there's something wrong with the market. In the tradition of "when did you stop beating your wife," he said in a CNN interview: "Is it collusion or is it price gouging? We need answers to those questions." Here's your answer, buddy: it's the misnamed Energy Department! (And permit me a small technical point about the relationship between cost and price: accounting costs are historical data, while prices always reflect present forecasts of the future that may or may not be right. There is no fixed relationship between the two in the real world.) It's all very nice and easy to pick on the working-class folks who go to the trouble of extracting the oil, turning it into gasoline, and delivering it to your neighborhood station for you to buy. When you are looking for someone to blame in these times, it's always easiest to blast the businessman. No calumny, no matter how implausible, is too far-fetched to pin on capitalism. The press plays along, with most reporters failing even to mention the new regulatory mandates, or any of the other impositions that are driving prices sky-high. Actually, when you consider all the government conspiracy to drive gas prices up, it's a wonder and a credit to free enterprise that they are not up to $5 a gallon by now. Most importantly, there are the taxes, which today account for at least 32 percent of the pump price of gasoline. According to the American Petroleum Institute, gasoline taxes average over 41 cents per gallon. Gas taxes zoomed 100% in the 1980s, and 54% in the 1990s. Oil producers today are treated very poorly by the government. Besides being among the most heavily regulated sectors, a percentage of all revenue from oil produced on socialized land must be forked over to the federal government in the form of royalty payments. And the Clinton administration is trying to make that payment more egregious by increasing it without regard to the terms of the leasing contract. This policy is consistent with the restrictions put on drilling and leasing. The US is home to rich oil lands in Alaska and offshore, to which oil producers are denied access. The excuse is the environment, but that can't be the real reason; oil producers long ago learned to make themselves virtually invisible as they work to put nature to man's use. For the government, high prices are their own reward. Senate Majority leader Trent
[CTRL] Republican Appointed Justices: Do They Make a Difference?
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Republican Appointed Justices: Do They Make a Difference? By Chuck Baldwin June 23, 2000 A few days ago, the U.S. Supreme Court, by a 6-3 vote, handed down a school prayer ruling that is as perfidious as any decision it has ever made. This ruling rivals the â62 â63 Supreme Court decisions that expelled prayer and Bible reading from our public schools. It might even be worse, because it prohibits student led prayers, something the court had never before addressed. It is more than interesting that the current court is a lopsided Republican appointed court. The current Supreme Court is comprised of seven Republican appointed justices to only two Democrat appointed ones. This fact created a curiosity that prompted me to review past Supreme Court rulings. My discovery leads me to believe that there is little difference between Democrat and Republican appointed Supreme Court justices. Consider the 1973 Roe v Wade Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion on demand. Republican appointed justices held a 6-3 majority on that court. Yet, the vote was 7-2 in favor of Roe. (And one of the two dissenting votes was cast by a Democrat appointed justice.) In the Roe decision, Republican appointed justices voted 5-1 in support of legalizing abortion. Consider the two infamous cases in â62 â63. The first, Engel v Vitale, resulted in voluntary prayer being removed from our public schools. The second, Abington Township v Schemp, removed Bible reading from schools. On the 1962 Supreme Court, Democrat appointed justices held a 6-3 majority. The same was true in 1963. The vote to remove prayer from schools in â62 was 6-1 (two members did not participate). The vote to remove Bible reading in â63 was 8-1. Republican appointed justices voted 2-1 to remove prayer from school. Republican appointed justices voted to remove Bible reading from schools by the same margin. No one can argue that each of these cases was a landmark case. Many historians regard the cases in â62 â63 and the one in â73 as the worst court decisions since the Dred Scott case in 1857 that declared Negroes to be mere chattel. This latest decision is no less egregious. The point is this: Republicans insist that we must vote for their presidential candidate in order to insure that liberal justices are not appointed to the Supreme Court. Oh, really? The facts described above do not support their argument. Even a 7-2 Republican majority hasnât turned the tide. For the past four decades, the Supreme Court has continued to take the nation down the path toward secularism, and it hasnât mattered which party has had a majority of appointments. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! ** *** A vote for Bush or Gore is a vote to continue Clinton policies! A vote for Buchanan is a vote to continue America! Therefore a vote for Gore or Bush is a wasted vote for America! Don't waste your vote! Vote for Patrick Buchanan! Today, candor compels us to admit that our vaunted two-party system is a snare and a delusion, a fraud upon the nation. Our two parties have become nothing but two wings of the same bird of prey... Patrick Buchanan A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] AP: Nader Is Worth Nearly $4M
In a message dated 06/19/2000 12:34:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON - Green Party presidential contender Ralph Nader, a longtime consumer advocate and critic of corporate America, is worth millions of dollars, thanks to investments in high-tech companies, according to published reports. Come on, guys. After a lifetime, Ralph Nader is worth less than a minor executive in one of the Fortune 500 companies makes in a year; they make even more if they come up with some special way to exploit the environment, because then they get big bonuses. George Bush makes Ralph Nader's total worth in a weekend. What's your problem? When have you heard Nader complain about a company that was not trying to take this country and this country's people to the cleaners? Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] What Israel Wants, Israel Gets
Report: Israel test fired nuclear capable, sub-launched cruise missiles http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/06/19/News/News.8366.html By Douglas Davis The Jerusalem Post LONDON (June 19) - Israel secretly test-fired cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons off the coast of Sri Lanka last month, the Sunday Times of London reported yesterday. Quoting Israeli defense sources, the paper reported that the tests were conducted from two German-built, Dolphin-class submarines and involved Israeli-made missiles equipped with conventional warheads hitting targets at sea at a range of about 1,500 kilometers. The sources were quoted as saying the launches were intended to simulate swift retaliation against a preemptive nuclear attack from Iran. Israel is only the third country - after America and Russia - to acquire the ability to fire nuclear-capable cruise missiles from submarines. The navy dismissed the report. "The report is baseless. This kind of test firing did not take place," said a statement by the IDF Spokesman. Nevertheless, reports of the Dolphin's cruise-missile capability continue to surface in the foreign press. Israel has never admitted that it has any cruise missiles and has sought Tomahawks from the US, which has so far rejected the request. However, according to Jane's Defense Weekly, Israel has modified the Popeye Turbo into an air-launched cruise missile with a range of over 200 km. The Popeye was developed and built by Rafael, which has a sophisticated missile development division. TAAS-Israel Industries has also developed the air-launched Delilah cruise missile, which has a range of 400 km. The Dolphin has 10 multi-purpose torpedo tubes which are designed for 21-inch diameter weapons. The submarines, which were originally turned down because they were too expensive, were given to Israel at cut rates during the Gulf War as compensation for Iraq's development of non-conventional weapons using German technologies. A third submarine is expected to be operational within weeks. The paper said Israel, which already has land- and air-based nuclear weapons, now plans to equip each of the three submarines with four cruise missiles. Under a system of rotation, the paper continued, two of the vessels will remain at sea - one in the Red Sea, the other in the Mediterranean, while the third will be kept on standby. The missiles, said the paper, will be fired only after approval by four people: the prime minister, defense minister, chief of General Staff, and navy commander. The 1,720-ton diesel-electric Dolphin submarines - twice the size of Israel's 23-year-old Gal-class submarines - are among the most technically advanced of their kind. They are virtually impossible to detect and can remain at sea for up to 30 days. According to the Sunday Times, Israel's intention to use the submarines as "roving nuclear launch platforms" had long been suspected, but few experts had expected Israel to develop the capability to fire submarine-based cruise missiles so soon. It said planning for a submarine-launched nuclear deterrent was accelerated after the Mossad reported in the early 1990s that Iran would be capable of staging a nuclear missile attack against Israel by 2000. Latest estimates put the threat back two years, said the paper, but uncertainty over Iran's level of nuclear capability has not reduced Israel's drive to bolster its defenses. The paper said "elite crews" have been assembled to man the submarines and that the 35 officers and men aboard each vessel have been nicknamed "Force 700" because of the average 700 points they are required to score in psychological tests - equivalent to an IQ rating of 130-140. Another five specially selected officers solely responsible for the warheads will be added to each vessel once the missiles are operational. The paper quoted a US defense analyst as saying: "This is certain to irritate the Clinton administration. It makes it that much harder to get non-proliferation to stick in the Middle East." (Arieh O'Sullivan contributed to this report.) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
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[CTRL] DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER 21 June 2000 Part 1
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! SOLDIERS FOR THE TRUTH "DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER" 21 June 2000 "When we assumed the Soldier, we did not lay aside the Citizen." General George Washington, New York Legislature, 1775 Soldiers For The Truth Foundation, PO Box 63840, Colorado Springs, CO 80962-3840 HTTP://WWW.SFTT.ORG * TABLE OF CONTENTS SITREP from the President HOT BUTTONS! Hack's Column: Korea: Lessons Of a War Not Learned "From my Position" -- On the way!" Article 1 - Kuwaiti Commemoration of the Gulf War Big Picture: Article 2 - Anthrax Fiasco Continues Article 3 -- Flag Officers Net Jetliners In New Defense Bills Voices from the Field: Article 4 -- Political Correctness - a Reader response Article 5 - Msgt Neil is not alone! Article 6 - Women in the Military Article 7 - Training is also a Unit Responsibility Article 8 -- Veterans' Health -- PROSTATE CANCER Article 9 -- Tale of a Stolen Flag G.I Humor: Article 10 -- The Essentials of Combat Medal of Honor: Article 11 -- JOHNSON, OSCAR G., Italy 1944 === SITREP: 1. Main topics: 1) Korea and the Gulf 2) Luxuries for our Princes 3) Anthrax 4) Readiness/Training 5) Healthcare 2. Future targets: a) Leadership -- veterans speak out about your experiences b) Training c) Political correctness 3. HOT BUTTONS: !!! Please continue your financial support for us, so we can grow and become an even stronger voice for all of you. Remember, the Pentagon budget is over 290 billion, and organizations like AUSA work with budgets in the 20 million-range. Currently we are looking at about 15k but need a base of 100k to be dangerous. !!! If you think we HIT a target, forward the newsletter to TV, radio and your locale papers. I'll be happy to follow up and expand our exposure. Remember, we are all in this together and every SFTT supporter is a forward observer and rifleman for OUR cause. !!! Sorry, the credit card operation is still not cooking. We're doing our best. 4. Methods of Support Check or Money order: Send to and make payable to: Soldiers For The Truth Foundation, PO Box 63840, Colorado Springs, CO 80962-3840. Credit Card donation via our WEBSITE at www.sftt.org 5. REMINDERS: Your donation is tax deductible! SFTT is a 501 (c) 3 non-profit educational foundation, IRS # 31-1592564. If you send us an E-MAIL address with your donation we can immediately mail you a RECEIPT Some of you have sent multiple contributions. Please remind us when you submit your donation, so we can send you an annual statement for tax purposes. SFTT Website. Please check out our updates, i.e. objectives, mission statement, book reports, etc. If you didn't get the complete newsletter or only the Short Version (sv), you can find it archived on the website http://www.sftt.org. HOW TO SUBSCRIBE: To subscribe to the SFTT newsletter go to http:www.sftt.org and use our convenient web form. You will receive a confirmation e-mail that you must respond to in order to subscribe. And once again, we're ready to counterattack -- "LOAD SABOT and DRIVER MOVE OUT!" R.W. Zimmermann President SFTT [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Hack's Coulumn Korea: Lessons Of a War Not Learned By David Hackworth Fifty years ago this week, Harry Truman proclaimed that the Korean War -- which had just kicked off -- was a "Police Action." Harry not only came up with a misnomer, he didn't send enough "cops." His next mistake was to believe the air generals who assured him that flying machines would stop the invading North Koreans. Granted, airplanes pummeled Korea from one end to the other, but bombs weren't what stopped the Reds. Their steamroller was halted by determined mud soldiers behind rifles and machine guns, gallantly dug in along a tiny scrap of what was left of South Korea, the Pusan Perimeter. This week, on the 50th anniversary of the Korean War, we honor those who fought there and remember the 33,686 American warriors who were killed in action during that three-year-long bloodbath. Back in those heady days, the United States was the only superpower on the block, and it rushed a bunch of our young boys -- as green and ill-prepared for war as the tanks they rode in on -- off to defend a country most Americans couldn't find on a map. The brass thought the American flag and the presence of GI Joe would turn the Red aggressor around. Truth to tell, Gen. MacArthur's inept intell folks actually believed that when the enemy saw the Red, White and Blue on top of our wheezing tanks, they'd toss down their weapons and flee in panic. Instead, our pathetically trained troops, who would've had a hard time guarding a PX in downtown
Re: [CTRL] Martin Berkowitz' propaganda, Thoughts to a Crazy
: And another bug crawls out of the woodwork. We have no idea who he/she is. : How usual. But thank you for the opportunity to give my views. : Let us review the bidding. Israel came into being through war on the : indigenous people : of Palestine by Jewish immigrants mainly from Europe, most of whom have no : known blood connection to the Israelites who left there nearly two thousand : years ago. : They were and are thus alien colonists without a shred of right to the Land. : At the time they began their vicious war on the Palestinians, the Jews of : Palestine : numbered some half million perhaps a few more, while the Palestinians : numbered about : one million four hundred thousand. The Zionist thugs drove somewhere : between : 650,000 and 800,000 Palestinians out of Palestine using massacres and : terror. : They robbed them of the 94% of the land they owned, their houses, their : goods, : and their bank accounts. Israel is in the same position vis-a-vis those : bank accounts : as the Swiss were WRT the Jews of Europe. : After they had gained strength, the Zionists again attacked the remnant of : Palestine : in the West Bank and Gaza, and conquered them. They have resisted every : attempt : of the Palestinians to make peace, and went so far as to invade Lebanon in : order to : drive away the refugees there who Israel had impudently and against : international : law always refused to allow to return home. They stayed in Lebanon for 18 : years, from time to time attacking the Lebanese as they saw fit, and killing : more : than 20,000 people in the process. Just a wonderful group of all American : boys. : Israel only entered the "peace process" when George Bush decided that the : killings : of young Palestinians who had gallantly offered up their bodies to the : brutal : Israeli thugs guarding their prison of a country had to stop. It was the : nightly : horror on American TV that caused revulsion in our country. Reportedly the : Mossad : tried to engineer an assassination of Bush at the Madrid conference. But : you got your revenge : at the ballot box. : It has always been the notion of the Zionists that the Palestinians do not : want peace. : This appears to be propaganda put forth for the purpose of avoiding having : to engage in : actual peace. Yet the Israelis have gone from terrible offer to yet more : terrible. : In Israeli words, the Palestinians never lost a chance to lose a chance. : But this : was sort of gallows humor, in that the Israelis used every ounce of their : then power to : try to impose on the Palestinians impossible choices. : Now time is no longer on Israel's side. Israel has lost over a half million : Ashkenazis : those original settlers who feel they are the only true Israelis. They are : leaving : because they want to live well, and they can in New York or Silicon Valley. : More than a half million have left. Moshe Arens' boy lives in LA, and is a : vocal : opponent of his father's policies. : Israel has no source of Jews with which to replace them, and has been driven : to accept "near Jews", Russians who may have some Jewish blood or may not. : More than a quarter of the approximately one million Russians in the last : ten years : are not Jewish, and more than half those who came in '98 and'99 were not. : Why not : naturalize the women you bring in for the whore houses? Or would the wives : of the : Orthodox object? : Israel and the United States are isolated on the international scene. For : many years : and on these benighted boards, as late as a year or so ago, some of your : cult buddies : were still saying that it was the oil Arabs who engineered support for the : Zionism is Racism resolution (It is, BTW, clearly) and other resolutions : calling for sanctions : on the racist state. For years, the US and zionstate could pressure some : twenty or more states : into voting with them. This no longer is true. Recently the US could only : get Micronesia : or the Fiji Isalnds, those great continental powers to vote with them, and : in the last year or : so even those countries no longer will prostitute themselves. Recent votes : in the UN have : been as high as 153 to 2 in favor of sanctions. : It has been clear for awhile that time is no longer on Israel's side. This : is the most important : point. Israel cannot fill those apartments she builds apace and illegally : in the West Bank. : Israel spends an enormous amount of money on armaments, while one terrorist : with : a suitcase bomb in Tel Aviv could wipe Israel out. Literally. The country : would be devastated : from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, depending on the wind, but that would not be the : worst. Remind me to : point out to the guys that the wind would mostly favor the bomb in West : Jerusalem or a little north. : The Ashkenazi would just leave. In droves. And more droves. the Russians : would follow. : Without going into doomsday scenarios, Israel wildly bombing the rest of the : Mideast,
Re: [CTRL] New threats emerge in West Bank
: Is it truth or is it fiction? Concerned human rights people : think it is but a story concocted jointly by the Israelis and : the PA to serve as a reason for a crackdown once the PA : and Israel reach what appears to be a humiliating "peace". : Scary times appear coming. The US has shown it can act : in the most awful ways in support of Israel. : RLA : New threats emerge in West Bank : USDefense.com Friday, June 23, 2000 : http://www.usdefense.com/june2000/D/23/story6.htm : MIDDLE EAST | Analysts with a leading U.S.-based economic and : intelligence forecasting firm said indications are that new : violence against Israel may be forming in the West Bank. : Once-separate terrorist groups, Hamas and the Hizbollah, may be : forming a coalition to wage more terrorist operations against Tel : Aviv, now that Israel has pulled out of southern Lebanon. : Weapons caches left behind by the former Israeli ally, the South : Lebanese Army, have been plundered by Hizbollah factions that : waged terrorist warfare campaigns against Israel for decades. The : weapons, sources told Stratfor.com, appear to be moving into the : West Bank. : Palestinian authorities said that the weapons were "flowing in : like a river," and could indicate new problems for Tel Aviv. : The terrorist groups, sponsored by Iran, also pose a danger to : the ongoing peace process in the region. Since a change of : leadership in Syria -- which also supported the groups in the : past -- after the death of President Assad earlier this month, : Damascus may also find itself with its first major foreign policy : challenge, analysts said Friday. : Bashar Assad, the late Hafez Assad's son, "will have a difficult : time curbing Hezbollah. He is still solidifying his political : base in Damascus, where he is still vulnerable and does not yet : wield the power of his late father," Stratfor.com said. : "Additionally, the expected deployment of United Nations : peacekeepers in South Lebanon will not make it easier for the : Syrian army to assert control," analysts said Friday. : (c) 2000 USDefense.com. All rights reserved. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CIA, Mossadegh Iran
: The link below is to the famous CIA documents published by times. Name of : persons and places were dedacted by Times for their own security reasons. : John Young, the web administrator of the link, learned how to remove : dedactions and published it. : Please read the article as well as the links they are very interesting. : Ali Forootan : http://jya.com/crypto.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CIA Report of the Coup in Iran - Uncensored!
: Hello Everybody, : This is chapter VII and the Appendix D (and table of : contents) of the book describing CIA coup of 1953 in : Iran, published recently by NYT. It is the uncensored : version that was subsequently published by John Young : at his web site: http://cryptome.org : The censored version of NYT is at: : http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.html : Young, a few days back, found out that while loading : the NYT version first the whole uncensored version gets : loaded then immediately after the censored words get : wiped out by some software, so he used a slow computer : and loaded the text and stopped the loading right after : the uncensored text was fully loaded but before the : wiping out process had begun. Later, on finding out : that others have also obtained the uncensored version : and it's already out he decided to publish the : uncensored version as well. So far he has republished : only Chapter VII and the Appendix D of the book. The : rest are coming out later. : I have removed some of the formatting to make the text : more easily transmitable electronically. I also removed : the the words "secret" from all pages but kept the : original page numbering so the text can correctly refer : to its other parts. Page numbers are at the bottom of : pages. I also deleted NYT's editor's note that : pertained only to the censored version. As John Young : indicates at his web site the missing names and words : in NYT version are here included within square brackets : []. : Remember that every word in this book has come out of : CIA's own pharynx and therefore can be bull from begin : to end. The correct version of what happened, general : or in detail, remain our own and we should just see if : this CIA blabber should throw some light on it or not. : I'm not at all doubtfull about the possibility that : they could have changed names in this report or : especially switched the ones who did not cooperate with : them with the ones who did, to get the double advantage : of saving the ones who did help and endangering the : status of those who did not, or at least create a : confusion. : Note the mention of the city Nicosia on several : occasions. I think Nicosia is their word for Tel Aviv : or somewhere else in Israel. Also note that in page 16 : of the appendix D even NYT's version, supposed to be : censored, reveals the identity of Farzanegan two times : by apparently forgetting to electronically wipe it off. : So this matter was never handled seriously and care is : due not to give too much weight to it. : Maleki : == : CS Historical Paper : No. 208 : CLANDESTINE SERVICE HISTORY : OVERTHROW OF PREMIER MOSSADEQ OF IRAN : November 1952-August 1953 : Date written : March 1954 : Date publsihed: October 1969 : Written by: Dr. Donald N. Wilber : i : HISTORIAN'S NOTE : This paper, entitled Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq of : Iran, was written in March 1954 by Dr. Donald N. Wilber : who had played an active role in the operation. The : study was written because it seemed desirable to have a : record of a major operation prepared while documents : were readily at hand and while the memories of the : personnel involved in the acitivity were still fresh. : In addition, it was felt advisable to stress certain : conclusions reach after the operation had been : completed and to embody some of these in the form of : recommendations applicable to future, parallel : operations. : Documents pertaining to the operation described in this : paper are in the Project TPAJAX files which are held by : the Iran Branch of the Near East and South Asia : Division. : All proper names mentioned in this paper have been : checked for accuracy and completeness. A serious effort : has been made to supply the first name and middle : initial of each individual. The omission of any first : names and middle initials indicates that such : information could not be located. : Dean L. Dodge : NE Division : Historical Officer : March 1969 : TABLE OF CONTENTS : Page :HISTORIAN'S NOTE . . . . . . . . . . . . i :TABLE OF CONTENTS . . . . . . . . . . . . ii :SUMMARY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . iii :I. PRELIMINARY STEPS . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 : II. DRAFTING THE PLAN . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 : III. CONSOLIDATING THE OPERATIONAL PLAN . . . 12 : IV. THE DECISIONS ARE MADE: ACTIVITY BEGINS 16 :V. MOUNTING PRESSURE AGAINST THE SHAH . . . 22 : VI. THE FIRST TRY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39 : VII. APPARENT FAILURE . . . . . . . . . . . . 44 : VIII. "THE SHAH IS VICTORIOUS" . . . . . . . . 65 : IX. REPORT TO LONDON . . . . . . . . . . . . 78 :X. WHAT WAS LEARNED IN THE OPERATION . . . . 85 :APPENDICES :A Initial Operation Plan for TPAJAX,
Re: [CTRL] Who's Terrorizing America?
: Who's terrorizing America? : It is widely accepted that the Middle East is a hotbed of anti-American terrorism, : sponsored in part by governments actively opposed to United States foreign policy : such as those of Iran, Syria, Iraq and Libya. Names like Abu Nidal and Usama Bin : Laden spring to mind as major enemies of Washington who have carried out ruthless : attacks against American targets. This general perception was strengthened : recently by the US Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, who made a statement at : the release of a State Department report on international terrorism. : The report said that the primary terrorist threats to the US come from the Middle : East and South Asia. The report also said that terrorism was currently less : supported by states and more part of "far-flung and loosely structured webs of : terror," to use her terminology, and that it was less political and more religious : and ideological in motivation. But, as Ali Abunimah of the Arab American Action : Network recently wrote in the New York Times, the State Department's own data do : not support the contention that the Middle East and South Asia are the major : centers of anti-American terrorism. : Of 169 specifically anti-American attacks on foreign soil in 1999, 96 were in : Latin America, 30 in West Europe, nine in the CIS and 16 in Africa. Only 11 were : in the Middle East and six in Asia. These proportions have stayed fairly constant : at least since 1996. The bulk of attacks in Latin America were in Colombia and : Peru, carried out by left-wing terrorists and right-wing paramilitary groups. : Attacks were usually for ransom money or to undermine national economies. : In Europe, most of the attacks last year were in protest against American-lead : attacks on Serbia in the war for Kosovo. : In the Middle East and South Asia, most attacks are related to local conflicts in : which America is seen to be taking sides unfairly. These include the : Palestinian-Israeli conflict and the Pakistani-Indian fighting over Kashmir. : Abunimah points out that the threat of international anti-American terrorism : itself is something of a red herring, since its annual toll is less than the : average daily toll of domestic handgun violence in the United States. Of course, : international terrorism should be taken very seriously and dealt with decisively. : But the bad name given Arabs and Muslims by association is simply not fair. : Abunimah reminds readers that in the immediate aftermath of the Oklahoma City : bombing, men of Arab origin were the first suspects. He points out the unhappy : irony for most Arab and Muslim Americans is that many fled to America to escape : violence and terror in their homelands. To be stigmatized as a people prone to : such acts is especially painful for them. Terrorism has typically been driven by a : mixture of motivations, political and ideological. Groups that fall under the : terrorist label have fought to overthrow established governments, to destroy : political opponents and parties and have been driven by everything from : Marxism-Leninism and Baathism to Zionism and radical Islam. : Madeleine Albright is no doubt on safe political ground when she points to the : Middle East and South Asia as prime sources of anti-American terrorism, even : though only ten percent of all such terrorist acts occurred in those areas last : year. Most people would nod in agreement. She would cause a stir if she told the : truth. The world today is not a place of peace and harmony for all humanity. There : are still many individuals and groups who are not party to either the accepted, : secularist ideologies or the global prosperity that characterizes the most : powerful countries on this earth. Islamic activists in general make up one of the : largest such disenchanted and disenfranchised groups. Their voices are often not : heard or are ignored, leading to acts of rage and terrorism. There is no : acceptable argument for terrorism. By its very nature it is anti-human. However, : there are many good arguments for studying the roots of terrorism and devising : strategies for the elimination of its causes. This is the work of building bridges : between peoples, groups and nations. Tell the truth, Albright, and think about how : to deal with those roots. : THOMAS CROMWELL : Editor in Chief and Publisher : The Middle East Times : http://metimes.com/2K/issue2000-20/methaus.htm : -- : Islam Guide : http://www.islam-guide.com : The Canadian Society of Muslims : http://www.muslim-canada.org/ : Islam In Canada : http://www.islam.ca : Articles on Islam : http://www.jannah.org/articles/ : The Bism Rabbik Foundation's main purpose is to provides accurate Islamic : information and services worldwide, in Spanish and English, for those who are : seeking knowledge and to bridge the gap of misunderstandings between the : different religions. :
Re: [CTRL] IRAQ/USA: National Mobilization to end the Sanctions
: National Mobilization to End the Sanctions Against Iraq : "We are destroying an entire society. It is as simple and terrifying : as that." -Denis Halliday, former UN coordinator of the Oil-for-Food : Program and Nobel Peace Prize nominee : Dear Friend, : The summer of 2000 is shaping up to be the largest mobilization we've : seen yet to end the sanctions on Iraq. Please join us August 6th (A6) : for a mass demonstration and rally in DC. : Why August 6th? Why now? : On August 6, 1990 the UN Security Council imposed a near total embargo : on Iraq, the most comprehensive sanctions in the history of the United : Nations. For everyone concerned, the resulting crisis was thought to : be a short-term problem created by the 1991 Gulf War and sanctions. Yet, : this summer Iraq's humanitarian crisis will enter its tenth year. : The United Nations remains at odds with the U.S. overresolving this : crisis; Washington insists the international embargo must continue. : Caught in the middle are over 22 million Iraqis struggling to survive. : According to UNICEF, in the seven years from 1991 to 1998, sanctions : contributed to the excess deaths of over 500,000 children under the : age of five. The International Committee for the Red Cross recently : described the situation in Iraq as "increasingly desperate." : The U.S. response? An air war. Earlier this month, Associated Press : and Reuters reported U.S. bombings of Iraqi cities for four days in : a row (6/1/00). Regular bombing raids since 1991 have caused hundreds : of casualties, making America's war on Iraq the longest continuous air : campaign since the Vietnam War. : In response, members of the Fellowship of Reconciliation (FOR), Peace : Action, American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC), American : Muslims for Global Peace Justice, Voices in the Wilderness, Mennonite : Central Committee (MCC), Education for Peace in Iraq Center (EPIC), : American Friends Service Committee (AFSC), Life for Relief Development : (LIFE), and over 20 other organizations are calling for a national rally : on August 6th (A6) in our nation's capital to mark the tenth year of : sanctions against Iraq. : With a growing number of countries, former UN officials, Members of : Congress, religious bodies, and organizations coming out against : sanctions, the time has come for us to gather and take a principled : stand against the Administration's genocidal policy toward Iraq. : We hope that you will join us. If you or a representative of your : organization are unable to attend, but are interested, let us : know. Please see the attached endorsement form which includes the : Mobilization's mission statement. If you have any questions, please : call us at (202) 543-3649 or (202) 258-4958. For recent updates, : please check out our website at http://www.saveageneration.org/a6. : In Peace, : Stephanie Schaudel Raed Battah : A6 Outreach Coordinator A6 Outreach Coordinator : National Mobilization to End the Sanctions on Iraq : 504 Eleventh Street SE, Suite #204, Washington, DC 20003 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.saveageneration.org/a6 : Tel.(202) 543-3649, fax (202) 543-1062 #61557; Cell (202) 258-4958 : *** : National Mobilization to End the Sanctions Against Iraq : August 5-7 : Although the Gulf War officially ended nearly a decade ago, the war : against the people of Iraq continues. Accordingly, we of various faith : communities, peace and justice organizations, and concerned citizens : demand that the economic sanctions and bombings end immediately. We : believe it is reprehensible to use the children, the poor, and the sick : of Iraq as bargaining chips for a political standoff in which they, : not Saddam Hussein, suffer. We oppose all sanctions that prevent or : otherwise hamper a nation's ability to provide for the public health of : its people. Our message is clear and direct: "Lift the economic : sanctions, stop the bombing!" : Name of Organization:__ : Individual Contact: : Address:___ : City/State:__Zip Code:_ : Telephone:___Fax:__ : Email:_ : *** : Please Check: : _Yes, add my organization as an endorser of the mobilization*. : _Yes, we will advertise this mobilization in our newsletter and : in our networks. : _Yes, we will mail out/distribute _ copies of the flyer or : brochure. : _Yes, we will send _ people to DC August 5-7. : _Yes, we are enclosing a contribution to help defray
Re: [CTRL] [illusions] NEW HAARP INFORMATION
From Kent Steadman and elfrad group: NEW HAARP INFORMATION It has come to our attention, the HAARP project in Gakona, Alaska is perhaps being used for much more than is publicized. Below is a letter Elfrad received from Mr. Marshall Smith of the Teddy Speaks Foundation. We welcome your comments and opinions concerning this controversial subject. SEE LETTER AT: http://elfrad.org/2000/haarp.htm Kent _ earthradioTV.com - Alternative News Portal for ecology, politics consciousness. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] earthradioTV.com MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Eagle 1 wrote: May I add... Jesus was rejected by the Pharisees' temple cult of darkness. In fact, Jesus said: "This is your hour and the power of darkness." (Luke 22:53) Regardless of how many may try, no one will ever be able to apply this identification of the overspreading of the abomination desolation over the Temple and Jerusalem to anyone else. Jesus was crucified by these same ones who took Him. (Luke 22:52-54) Regardless of how hard many try, the evil deed of rejecting and plotting the murder of Jesus can never be attributed to Rome Imperial or Rome Papal. Regardless of how hard some deny it, the Apostles always accused the Phariseees of this wicked and evil deed (Acts 2:23; 3:14-15; 7:52; 1 Thessalonians 2:15; James 5:6). The Romans were trapped into this murder by the Sanhedrin and coercing Pilate with threats of reporting him to Rome for allowing another man in the Roman Empire to be called a King. The Romans were never blamed by the Apostles for the death of Jesus. eagle 1 That is a well written essay, Eagle 1. I have been on the L-Torah list for a couple of years now and I can't find anything in the New Testament which would be in conflict with the Torah. So 2,000 years ago there was a Jewish schism. One faction made a big mistake. The other carried on deeming Jesus Christ to be the "Prince of the Prophets". The Anti-Christ/Talmudic faction was pre-eminent in the holocaust of 66 million in Russia and neighbouring countries (up to 1957 according to Solzhenitsyn). J2's point that "real Jews don't worship a man" doesn't hold water. Followers of Christ do not worship the man any more than people going to a temple or synagogue worship the physical structures there. FWP - Original Message - From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed Your response illustrates my contention exactly. The Roman rulers of Palestine had the final say in all executions, it is a historic fact. The Jews could not condemn anyone, it had to be the Roman legal system that did it, so Pilate could not wash his hands. There is no historical evidence of there ever being any practice of allowing people to be freed for Passover or any other holiday, prisoners stayed in prison or were executed, never released because people wanted it. Jesus was a prisoner of the Romans, not the Jews. Jesus was killed by Roman soldiers, on the orders of Roman rulers. But if you want to believe the Pharisees or anyone else was at fault be my guest. . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- Machine Psychology: http://www.atoma.f2s.com/atomareport.html (file #10) --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
Re: [CTRL] Lest We Become Oppressed ?
Joshua2 writes: I hope you're right Bob but I am forced to believe otherwise. The government and the Military have been eroding the Posse Comitadas (?) protections over a period of years now, and all it takes is for the Presidents signature to use the military against its own citizens. Bob writes: Much of what you say is true. The government has been growing steadily and taking powers not afforded by the Constitution. Government needs to be put in it's place - small and no danger to the population from which it derives it's powers. Presidential Decision Directives and Executive Orders have no place in government the President is not part of the legislative branch and has no power to make law. The military is controlled by civilians, the government, most notably the President. Joshua2 writes: And then there's shit like this... ***KILL U.S. CITIZENS, BLAME CUBA Now comes documentation on other plans the Pentagon was pursuing in those days. Articles by Tim Weiner in the New York Times Nov. 19 and Nov. 23 tell of some of them. The military plans approved for development by the Joint Chiefs of Staff on March 13, 1962, as part of the CIA's Operation Mongoose included: u Operation Bingo, a plan to fake an attack on the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, providing cover for a devastating U.S. military assault on Havana. u Operation Dirty Trick, a plot to blame Fidel Castro if the 1962 Mercury space flight carrying John Glenn crashed. u A "Remember the Maine" incident, in which "we could blow up a U.S. warship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," said a Pentagon memorandum. "We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area," it went on, "in other Florida cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans en route to Florida (real or simulated), or create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner." The Times reports said no there is no evidence that these plans were ever carried out. Perhaps. Perhaps others that did become operational are still classified "top secret." Cuba has provided very convincing evidence, for example, of bacteriological and biological warfare aimed at its crops and livestock. Nevertheless, these few scenarios reveal enough about the mentality of the military to demolish the benign image of U.S. foreign policy so carefully cultivated by the rulers of this country. In truth, Washington hasn't changed since the days when U.S. Marine Corps Gen. Smedley Butler said he had been nothing but a gangster working for U.S. banks and corporations in Latin America in the 1920s. Bob writes: The military has been involved in many unsavory exploits, but has always been controlled by the Government. Smedley Butler was right about the US butting in where it doesn't belong and exploiting other countries for big business. If our Government wasn't corrupt and didn't take bribes, this unauthorized use of the military would not occur. The military should only be used to protect the people of the US from invasion. ALL Government employees from the city street sweeper to the President should be held accountable for accepting bribes. Corporations that offer bribes should be disbanded and the officers prosecuted and jailed. Corporations are a legal way of passing the buck and not taking responsibility for actions taken. Joshua2 writes: Department Of Defense: Les Aspin, Secretary of Defense -- CFR Frank G. Wisnerll, Under Secretary for Policy -- CFR Henry S. Rowen, Asst. Sec., International Security Affairs -- CFR Judy Ann Miller, Dep. Asst. Sec. Nuclear Forces Arms Control -- CFR W. Bruce Weinrod, Dep. Asst. Sec., Europe NATO -- CFR Adm. Seymour Weiss, Chairman, Defense Policy Board -- CFR Charles M. Herzfeld, Dir. Defense Research Engineering -- CFR Andrew W. Marshall, Dir., Net Assessment -- CFR Michael P. W. Stone, Secretary of the Army -- CFR Donald B. Rice, Secretary of the Air Force -- CFR Franklin C. Miller, Dep. Asst. Sec. Nuclear Forces Arms Control -- CFR Allied Supreme Commanders: 1949-52 Eisenhower -- CFR 1952-53 Ridgeway -- CFR 1953-56 Gruenther -- CFR 1956-63 Norstad -- CFR 1963-69 Lemnitzer -- CFR 1969-74 Goodpaster -- CFR 1974-79 Haig -- CFR 1979-87 Rogers -- CFR, TC Superintendents of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point: 1960-63 Westmoreland -- CFR 1963-66 Lampert -- CFR 1966-68 Bennett -- CFR 1970-74 Knowlton -- CFR 1974-77 Berry -- CFR 1977-81 Goodpaster -- CFR CFR Military Fellows, 1991: Col. William M. Drennan, Jr., USAF -- CFR Col. Wallace C. Gregson, USMC -- CFR Col. Jack B. Wood, USA -- CFR CFR Military Fellows, 1992: Col. David M. Mize, USMC -- CFR Col. John P. Rose, USA -- CFR Joint Chiefs of Staff: Adm Wm. Crowe, Chairman -- CFR Gen. Colin L. Powell, Chairman -- CFR Gen. Carl E. Vuono, Army -- CFR Gen.
[CTRL] New One-Stop Shopping for Government Information
Jun 24, 2000 - 02:58 PM New One-Stop Shopping for Government Information By Ann Gearan Associated Press Writer LOS ANGELES (AP) - The government is consolidating its 20,000 Web sites into a single Internet location offering information from grants and contracts to an individual's benefits, President Clinton said Saturday. "Whether you want crucial information in starting a small business, or you want to track your Social Security benefits, you can do it all in one place, 24 hours a day, seven days a week," he said in his first exclusively World Wide Web address to announce the project. The site, http://www.firstgov.gov, should be operating within 90 days as the government and Web designers worked "in the spirit of cutting through red tape," Clinton said. It will offer individuals, small businesses and others a single source for information about roughly $500 billion in government grants and contract opportunities, Clinton said. "When it's complete," he said, "firstgov will serve as a single point of entry to one of the largest, perhaps the most useful collection of Web pages in the entire world." The site is being developed, at no cost to taxpayers, by a team led by Internet entrepreneur Eric Brewer. Brewer, chief scientist at Inktomi Corp., a software developer and marketer in Foster City, Calif., "developed one of the most successful Internet search technologies with the help of government grants," Clinton said in the Webcast, taped in Los Angeles during a West Coast fund-raising trip. Inktomi's Web site said Brewer and Paul Gauthier, the company's chief technology officer, "developed a way to achieve supercomputing power at microcomputer prices" while working on a federally funded project at the University of California, Berkeley, in 1996. Brewer did not immediately return a message left Saturday at his office. "Over the coming year we will make it possible for people to go online and compete for these grants and contracts through a simplified electronic process," the president said. "Moving this enormous volume of business online will save a great deal of money and time for our taxpayers." The White House said the plan is to offer a more standardized application process for the 30,000 different organizations that currently receive federal grants every year. The site now features information about the coming service. The president also announced a competition for new ideas in electronic government service. The nonprofit Council for Excellence in Government will award up to $50,000 for the best ideas from government employees, students, researchers and others. http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGI2ADFMV9C.html Bard To Keep the Peace, Keep Your Piece! Pro Libertate - For Freedom BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] French Communist's new social modernization laws
Jun 24, 2000 - 02:49 PM More Than 100,000 March Through Paris in Gay Pride Parade The Associated Press PARIS (AP) - In a festive celebration of gay pride, more than 100,000 people marched and danced Saturday through the streets of Paris behind a giant banner with the slogan for this year's parade: "Homophobia - a social plague." French Education Minister Jack Lang and the Socialist Party's mayoral candidate Bertrand Delanoe were among the politicians that kicked off Gay Pride 2000 behind dozens of motorcyclists from the Gay Bikers Club. "Whenever there is a demonstration for liberty, I'm there," said Delanoe, who came out in 1998 and has marched in the parade for the past six years. Rainbow-colored flags waved under overcast skies as the parade wound from southern Paris to its destination at the Place de la Bastille, near the city's gay district. Booming techno and disco music played as drag queens and other elaborately costumed men and women danced on colorful floats and along the sidelines of the parade. Police estimated the crowd size at between 100,000 and 130,000 people, while organizers said that 250,000 people turned out for the event. On Friday, Social Affairs Minister Martine Aubry said the government planned to introduce new laws outlawing discrimination against homosexuals. Aubry said the new legislation would appear as an amendment to a "social modernization" bill currently going through Parliament. http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGI4H33MV9C.html Woe to those who lust for an innocent child. merely to satisfy their addiction to self-gratification.. Bard No more same-sex 'marriages'. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2525/ts/pope_gays_1.htmlNo more homosexual sex education.. http://www.massnews.com/maygsa.htmKids Get Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
Thanks for the clarifications, FWP. I've never found anything of conflict in the Torah myself. --- The subject matter, however, is the *Talmud Exposed*, which, in my opinion, is full of men's opinions, declarations, council decisions, and false information regarding 'Thus saith the Lord', when HE never said it. The Old Testament if full of curses and warnings against those who claim to speak for God, when they were not authorized to speak. Warnings continue in the New, specifically in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 and throughout the Revelation. These "false ones" are who Christ so adamantly warned about... i.e. accepting men's opinions, declarations, and false information INSTEAD OF the Words of God. THIS Judaistic/Babylonian Talmud conglomerate of disinformation is the antichrist foundation, and is considered a gate to hell, even of which many Christian factions allow to prevail over their church doctrines to this day. The word antichrist specifically denotes "INSTEAD of CHRIST", not necessarily one who is 'against' Christ. There is a difference. Who, of most religious sects, rejects Christ most vehemently? Utilizing the stones, that is, calculating the number of the beast, we find by historically recounting the steps and smooth stones of those who claim they are Jews but are not, and these are truly 'anti-christ' . Once it is realized, and one sees for themselves by tracing the history over a long period of time, this adds up to one thing and one thing only... A clear cut conspiracy of lies and alibis by a certain faction exists... by those who set out to influence and brainwash as many in the WHOLE world as they could. What better place to brainwash, but from the pulpit of every denomination... ??? simply because it is a known fact that people are willing to believe a man who stands in a pulpit or position of leadership in a church or synagogue. Most people are brainwashed from the pulpit, because they are afraid or don't know or don't care to know that they can question and research for themselves the tenents of any denomination and find out the truth for themselves. Most religious leaders don't want you to do this, then they lose control. Instead, they would rather to continue to mesmerize their congregations, lulling them into a false sense of security... a false sense of peace and safety, with their false doctrines within church and/or synagogue doors. You can turn on certain religious TV stations and see people nodding their heads in agreement to perfect lies, or you will see a three ringed circus of so called 'faith healing' going on... or wild laughing... the throwing of blankets on people, the magical changing of water to wine, etc., etc., and all things done proudly in the name of God... It is merely a great wonder... and should be a giant sign to BEWARE. Jesus never healed anyone by knocking them over... or laughing... He told nearly everyone of whom he healed to rise and walk, with no dramatics. Jesus called the religious leaders of his time, "vipers", "hypocrits" and "tares". We know why he called them vipers... Their religious and spiritual venom is lethal. We know why he called them hypocrits... because they 'act' like they speak for God, when nothing could be further from the truth, but these are nothing more than play actors. But, why did he call them tares? Because they look so much like the real thing that until the maturity time comes, [i.e. judgment] that even an expert would have trouble telling the tare from the real. And so it is... regarding those who say they are Jews, but are not... (Rev 2:9 and 3:9)... It is extremely difficult to tell the real Jews from the fakes. Look at it this way, only a well-trained eye can tell the counterfeit from the genuine... Christ said, "... take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten; and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for MY sake, for a testimony against them." ~Mark 13:9 -and- "... Ye shall be hated of all [council men] for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end the same shall be saved. When ye shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet standing where *he* [it] ought not, (let him that readeth understand.) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment..." ~Mark 13:13-16 What councils are these that people will be delivered up to? It will be much the same as the council of the Sanhedrin, those who hold to certain doctrinal beliefs that you will be expected to believe in also, or else. It is specific that some will even be delivered to the synagogue... to be beaten, no less. And who holds to the councils and tenents of the Talmud? Note that Christ did not use the generalized word 'church'
[CTRL] dope-pushing rapist/slumlord plans to addict Seniors [$58 Billion]
Jun 24, 2000 - 02:45 PM President Revises Earlier Drug Plan, Tapping Project Surpluses By Anne GearanAssociated Press Writer LOS ANGELES (AP) - President Clinton wants to use $58 billion from the growing budget surplus to help senior citizens pay for prescription drugs in 2002, revising an earlier proposal and offering more generous Medicare benefits than current Republican plans. "We have the money to do this now and do it right," Clinton said Saturday in his weekly radio address, broadcast during a fund-raising trip in the West. "We should use a part of our hard-earned budget surplus to meet America's most pressing priorities, like paying down the national debt, strengthening Medicare and providing a prescription drug benefit." Clinton outlined the package he intends to send to Congress this week: a drug subsidy in 2002, a year earlier than he first proposed and House Republicans are offering, and a $4,000 cap on an individual's annual out-of-pocket medicine costs, compared with $6,000 under the GOP plan. The updated White House plan caps a week of intense political maneuvering on an election-year issue affecting 39 million elderly. Senate Republicans voted largely along party lines Thursday to reject a Democratic plan for the drug coverage. House Republicans pushed their version through the Ways and Means Committee. A floor vote is expected this week. "It's clear that you can't have modern health care without access to lifesaving pharmaceuticals," Rep. Nancy Johnson, who heads the Ways and Means human resources subcommittee, said Saturday in the GOP's weekly radio address. Johnson, R-Conn., said that while more then two-thirds of older Americans have some prescription drug coverage under health plans, an estimated 12 million have none at all. "This is simply morally wrong in the world's most prosperous country," she said. "No senior should have to choose between filling their prescription and putting food on the table." Medicare, the federal insurance program for the elderly and disabled, does not cover prescription drugs. Most senior citizens have some kind of coverage through private health plans. Clinton is proposing to spend $58 billion more over 10 years than the $195 billion total estimated in his initial plan in February. Within days, the president is expected to announce a $1 trillion increase in projected federal surpluses. Sources have told The Associated Press the figure would more than double, to $1.9 trillion, the $746 billion the Clinton administration projected in February. The figures do not include Social Security. The White House long has planned to spend part of that surplus on a drug benefit and part on a tax cut. In political speeches, Clinton says Republicans want to squander the money on a much bigger tax cut that would be unaffordable if the surplus dries up. Under the GOP plan, "If we don't have this projected surplus we'll be back in the soup" of deficits, Clinton said during a political speech Saturday in Los Angeles, where he wound up a three-day fund-raising tour. Clinton's health care adviser, Chris Jennings, said the new White House proposal to spend some more of the surplus on drug coverage is not at odds with that criticism. "He's not saying spend it all on a drug benefit, by any means," Jennings said. "There's lot's of resources left." A House Republican leader, Rep. J.C. Watts of Oklahoma, countered in a statement Saturday that senior citizens "do not deserve partisan wrangling" from an administration "looking only for recognition as their days in the executive branch quickly fade away." The House GOP proposal calls for private insurance companies, backed by hefty federal subsidies, to offer drug coverage to Medicare recipients nationwide. The bill includes subsidies for low-income senior citizens, as well as those experiencing extremely high costs. Clinton and congressional Democrats, who have proposed slightly different plans, would require the government offer a uniform drug benefit under Medicare. Democrats claim only they offer the choice of affordable coverage to all elderly, instead of only those deemed most needy. The rejected Senate plan is less generous than Clinton's, and slightly less expensive, at roughly $240 billion over 10 years. By contrast, the House GOP bill costs an estimated $40 billion over five years. http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGIBTOYLV9C.html There is no constitutional provision to use your Children's fiat tax 'monies' to mainline our Seniors!! The Duopoly will stop at nothing to suck your Vote, then you, in your naiveté, will have rewarded the aspirations of the drug-pushers; the rapist/slumlord. Bard BUCHANAN-Reformhttp://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm So here's the Clinton trifecta(1): money laundering, addiction, and envy combine to enforce and expand federal government control over more and more aspects of our
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati,
In a message dated 6/24/00 2:05:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But so many things are different from Colleen's posts, most notably the spelling, grammar and syntax - not to mention the overall clarity. Saba is Colleen...no doubt! LOL!! Ok, you got me. I read a few posts after making the above assertion and saw the undeniable "Colleen-ness." I'm glad, I'd wondered where Colleen had wandered off to. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mother Teresa
David - Yes, Christopher Hitchens isn't the only source for such info - in fact, he so deeply offends some people that when I have a discussiion about Mother Teresa, I usually don't mention his work. One of MT's former Sisters of Mercy (Sister Virgin/Susan Shields) has written about her nine-year experience. Also, a doctor in London, Aroup Chatterjee, who is from Calcutta, has written a book about MT. He also wrote in opposition to her pending sainthood. Here are links to some of their information: http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/shields_18_1.html Mother Teresa's House of Illusions How She Harmed Her Helpers As Well As Those They `Helped' by Susan Shields http://website.lineone.net/~bajuu/ The Mother of All Myths and SUBMISSION BEFORE THE COMMITTEE FOR BEATIFICATION/CANONISATION OF MOTHER TERESA by Aroup Chatterjee -- Samantha In a message dated 6/23/00 12:55:00 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Missionary Position : Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/185984054X/o/qid=961739249/sr=8-2/ref =aps_sr_b_1_4/002-9965160-5060825 Review: "In discussing this book with my friends and co-workers, I found that they reacted with the same "raised-eyebrow shock" that I did. But what we also shared was the same mis-quided, media driven vision of a person that was suposedly unquestionable. After reading this book, intently I might add, I wanted answers. I want to know where all the donations to Mother Teresa's organiztion has gone because it certainly hasn't gone to the poor. I want to know why Mother Teresa has posed in pictures with the wife of a dictator, with a man claiming to have a higher spiritual consciousness than Jesus himself, and with Charles Keating, the man who financially raped so many. Her actions and her words are not congruent and I am thankful to those who look at a situation and make the hard decisions. Christopher Hitchens is intelligent and courageous for writing this book and I am now a fan. The book was well written with sources that will withstand independant scrutiny. I don't know how anyone, after reading this book, could say that Mother Teresa is a saint." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [MC] [illusions] NEW HAARP INFORMATION
In a message dated 00-06-24 19:31:15 EDT, you write: Subj: RE: [MC] [illusions] NEW HAARP INFORMATION Date: 00-06-24 19:31:15 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wes Thomas) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -snip Marshall tells me the .9 Hz signal is significant because it affects the limbic system (fight/flight/ food/reproduction). Does anyone have data on that? This seems to be an extremely important finding, if true, as it would seem to establish a framework for confirming what those analysist have been saying about HAARP's possible effects on mind control, human behaviour, human thinking. Is that the case? Alfred Webre A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed
Eagle 1 wrote: May I add... Jesus was rejected by the Pharisees' temple cult of darkness. In fact, Jesus said: "This is your hour and the power of darkness." (Luke 22:53) Regardless of how many may try, no one will ever be able to apply this identification of the overspreading of the abomination desolation over the Temple and Jerusalem to anyone else. Jesus was crucified by these same ones who took Him. (Luke 22:52-54) Unfortunately for you, your bible is completely made up propaganda. It is in total contradiction to known history. Regardless of how hard many try, the evil deed of rejecting and plotting the murder of Jesus can never be attributed to Rome Imperial or Rome Papal. Regardless of how hard some deny it, the Apostles always accused the Phariseees of this wicked and evil deed (Acts 2:23; 3:14-15; 7:52; 1 You know nothing of your own religious history but you sure do enjoy the drama don't you? Thessalonians 2:15; James 5:6). The Romans were trapped into this murder by the Sanhedrin and coercing Pilate with threats of reporting him to Rome for allowing another man in the Roman Empire to be called a King. The Romans were never blamed by the Apostles for the death of Jesus. Which apostles are you talking about? The cowards who revised history to please Rome? The ones who buddied up to the very people who killed Jesus. You expect these guys to tell the truth? What you got instead is the " Gospel Truth " which is an oxymoron. Think about this Eagle 1, as we speak, there are dozens of digs going on in Israel and other parts of the old Roman Empire. Every day they find more information about the early Christian period. If I believed this stuff, I would be pissing in my pants right now because it's all over but the gnashing of teeth. Joshua2 eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "tenebroust" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed Your response illustrates my contention exactly. The Roman rulers of Palestine had the final say in all executions, it is a historic fact. The Jews could not condemn anyone, it had to be the Roman legal system that did it, so Pilate could not wash his hands. There is no historical evidence of there ever being any practice of allowing people to be freed for Passover or any other holiday, prisoners stayed in prison or were executed, never released because people wanted it. Jesus was a prisoner of the Romans, not the Jews. Jesus was killed by Roman soldiers, on the orders of Roman rulers. But if you want to believe the Pharisees or anyone else was at fault be my guest. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] French Spymaster Spills Secrets
SUNDAY TIMES June 25 2000 EUROPE French spymaster revels in publishing the truth Tony Allen-Mills, Paris IF Dame Stella Rimington wants advice on how to deal with the political storms that greeted her decision to publish her memoirs, the former head of MI5 should contact Pierre Marion, a retired French spymaster with a taste for literary indiscretion. Marion's last book caused a stir; his next may cause a sensation. While British security circles agonise over Rimington's plan, the former head of the French version of MI6 is happily embarking on his third book while the writs are still flying around the second. "I'm not fond of secrecy," Marion, 79, declared last week. "There is nothing difficult or dangerous about a spy chief speaking his mind." He has driven a coach and horses through the long-established convention in France that books by senior bureaucrats should be too dull for anyone to read. In his last, Memoirs of the Shadows, Marion launched a scathing attack on his former boss, the late President François Mitterrand, depicting him as a corrupt schemer who used the secret services to protect his mistress and his illegitimate daughter, Mazarine Pingeot. The book, published last autumn, has sold 60,000 copies - rare for a political volume - and provoked Pingeot into issuing a writ on behalf of her dead father. A court of appeal is due to rule on the case this week. Undaunted, Marion is pressing ahead with a potentially explosive new book on the long-veiled secrets of French freemasonry, nine years after publishing his first volume of memoirs, Mission Impossible. In a Paris hotel bar last week, he spoke with startling candour about his 18 months at the heart of the French intelligence structure in the early 1980s. It is difficult to imagine any senior British official publicly admitting to planning the assassination of foreign diplomats, yet that was only one of Marion's revelations from his time as head of the Direction Générale de la Sécurité Extérieure (DGSE), the French counter-intelligence agency. After a successful career as an aerospace executive with good security contacts, Marion was recommended to Mitterrand in 1981 for a job that none of the new Socialist president's left-wing supporters would touch. "I was an industrialist, not a politician," Marion said. "But I had plenty of international experience, I was sympathetic to the left and I had a small reputation as a tough guy." Disillusionment set in fast. In Memoirs of the Shadows, Marion recounts his bitter disappointment as Mitterrand, already suffering secretly from cancer, began to demand that the security services monitor his many enemies. "He wanted us to run spying operations on French citizens, not for national security but for the security of his mistress and his daughter." For a man who had been struggling to persuade the president to crack down on Syrian- inspired terrorism - and whose agents had targeted Syrian diplomats for retaliatory assassination - nursemaiding the president's child was not an appealing prospect. When his book was published, with copious references to Mitterrand's "egocentrism and cynicism", and the president's "strategy of lies", it attracted an unusual writ from Pingeot, who claimed to have identified 25 passages that were "prejudicial" or defamatory to both her father and his family. She demanded that the offending passages be excised and sought £100,000 in damages. In a court hearing, Pingeot's lawyer argued that Marion was consumed by rancour and bitterness and had attacked someone who could not defend himself. Marion's lawyers relied on the standard legal defence that it was impossible to libel a dead man. Intriguingly, nobody in France suggested it was inappropriate for a former guardian of the country's secrets to be spilling the beans in public. Critics noted that Marion was far from the first spy chief to write his memoirs. The court dismissed Pingeot's claim with costs against her. The court ruled that defamation of a dead man could be redressed in court only if it was proved that the heirs were also defamed. "It has never been shown that the author intended to injure Pingeot's honour," the ruling said. Marion had merely been participating in public debate about the personality and actions of the former head of state. Pingeot appealed at once. Last week Robin Cook, the foreign secretary, urged Rimington to think again about publishing her memoirs for security reasons. Yet it has never been suggested in France that Marion might have compromised national security. "The danger is that, like the British, you get into the habit of not speaking," he said. "But citizens need to understand what the secret world involves." Tape recordings made by a former model and actress who claims to have been Mitterrand's favourite astrologer were released yesterday. Elisabeth Teissier said he had phoned her regularly between 1989 and 1995 before taking
[CTRL] Capitalism and technology.
- Capitalism and Technology: To whose benefit, at what costs? By Doug Dowd In 1917, as war ripped Europe apart, Einstein wrote to a friend that "Our much-praised technological progress, and civilization generally, could be compared to an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal." Subsequently, in showing that E=MC2, that lifelong pacifist had paved the way for the most catastrophic technology ever. His was neither the first nor the last instance of a "father of invention" discovering that once the genie is out of the bottle it is also up for grabs; Bill Joy, Chief Scientist of Microsystems, recently warned of the terrifying possibilities now attaching to robotics, genetics and nanotechnology. Shades of Ted Kaczynski. Ever since knives and spears, technology has been used both constructively and destructively; when, how, where and why it will be used -- and, in consequence, who will benefit and who and what will be harmed -- finds its answer in the structure of power, at whose center sits capitalism and its State. There have been "collateral benefits" for the less powerful, of course. But. It is a very large "but" that broadens, deepens, and becomes more multi-dimensional over time. It is common to think of production when technology is mentioned, its main home until very recently; now, however, its use and misuse shape and permeate all of human, social, and environmental existence. When technology took its first big leaps in England, the harm done was almost entirely to farmers and pre-industrial workers; and the gains went almost entirely to what became large landowners (who, by 1790, owned 80 percent of the land of England). Thus was laid the basis for the industrial capitalism of the nineteenth century: the earlier "progress," in obliterating the fabled "yeomanry" and cottage industry, gave birth to what became a powerless working class -- inspiring, in 1770, Goldsmith's "Deserted Village," and its "Ill fares the land/ to hastening ills a prey/ where wealth accumulates and men decay" Those exploited were the fuel of industrial capitalism, and their lives burned out quickly. As Hobsbawm has shown, between 1821 and 1851 the lifespan of the average working person in Britain declined substantially -- from 37 to 46 percent who died by age 19. Exploitation became less lethal as Britannia came to rule the waves -- allowing workers' real incomes in Britain to rise (in the 1880s), but only because exploitation spread and deepened globally. Sound familiar? In the past several decades, the advancing technologies of transportation, communication and transportable capital equipment have allowed transnational corporations (TNCs) -- with the easily-corrupted support of their governments and those of the "emerging market economies" of Latin America, Asia, and Africa -- to deepen and tighten their hold on the human and other resources of the whole globe. Once again, peasants been swept off the land, to allow the new technologies and agribusiness owners their way. In consequence, small farmers have plummeted from a life that was merely difficult to one that is harrowing, have lost their culture and history, have been forced into the exploding cities of their own land or richer societies, where they confront hatred and a squalid existence. Ah! economists have said for over two hundred years and still say: but in the long-run, all this is for the good of all; those in the poorer countries need only be patient: behold the levels of real income of industrial workers in the strongest countries! There is much wrong with such observations; here we look at only some of it. First, there is no chance whatsoever that the people of the poorer countries will ever reach the material comfort levels of the leading industrial economies of today, if only because there is no other set of countries which they can "imperialize"; nor will they ever have the access to the relative military might that cleared the path for the now rich societies. And they are already or will be ruled not by their own governments but by the new Holy Family: TNC/WTO/IMF. Second, in the richest countries,led by the USA, exploitation is very much on the rise, very much facilitated by technological "progress." In the past ten years, as U.S. growth and wealth break records, worker exploitation has been rising: not only did real wages fall or remain stagnant from 1973 into the late 1990s, but, as Business Week (12-6-99) has reported, the average worker (not just the poorest) put in 260 hours more in 1999 -- six weeks of extra work -- than in 1989, with little or no wage increases (and this says nothing about unreported data, such as the spreading practice of having workers "punch out" and then continue to work, and of diverse "overwork" practices of home workers and part-time temps -- "beloved by many employers, because they're cheaper and more flexible than those you put on payroll..." (Fortune Small Business (4/2000). Such
Re: [CTRL] Mother Teresa
In a message dated 6/24/00 7:11:12 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, Christopher Hitchens isn't the only source for such info - in fact, he so deeply offends some people that when I have a discussiion about Mother Teresa, I usually don't mention his work. Hitchens is AWESOME!! This book isn't his finest hour...though it's brilliant...and d'ya know that he auditioned for Mike Kinsley's spot on CNN's CROSSFIRE but was denied...and the ONLY reason for that is that he was an ACTUAL LEFTY!! He and Bob "Becks" Beckel were overlooked by the "liberal" CNN because they were actually PASSIONATE and LEFT-LEANING...from Tom Braden to Mike Kinsley...they ALWAYS have moderate "liberals" "on the left" yet passionate righties representing the "right"... Bunch o' bullcrapola that Turner's network is biased...Pat BuKKKanan, John Sununu, Novak,"Bimbo Eruptions" Matalin, vs. a neutered Bill Press...what a joke...Matalin would look like Crackhead Bob if she had to square off nightly against a Hitchens or a Beckel... Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mother Teresa/Hitchens
In a message dated 6/24/00 9:36:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hitchens is AWESOME!! .. He is. The title of his book, "Missionary Position" is more than apt - it gives a great visual of a horrible prune of a woman who whored herself so the Vatican could be made more rich. Hitchen's style offends some people. Aroup Chatterjee thinks he's horrible and refuses to discuss him. I thinks it's very important that the truth about Mother Teresa gets out, and if Hitchens' style gets in the way of spreading the word, I leave him out. Matalin, vs. a neutered Bill Press...what a joke...Matalin would look like Crackhead Bob if she had to square off nightly against a Hitchens or a Beckel... Ha! A neutered Bill Press. A great description of that soppy milk-toast. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] BARRY CHAMISH -- WHO'S TRYING TO KILL HIM?
From the Rumor Mill News Read Only Forum Barry Chamish-Israel Posted By: Noah Date: Thursday, 22 June 2000, 4:51 p.m. This post includes the original article and the Update: ___ BARRY IS OK AT THE MOMENT. SEEMS THE NWO AND THEIR HACKS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF HIS EXPOSING THEM. SPREAD THE WORD AND DON'T LET THIS SLIDE Chamish files complaint with police of suspicion of attempted murder attacks against him (IsraelWire-6/20) Controversial journalist and noted speaker Barry Chamish, known for his books challenging the official government theory concerning the Rabin assassination, has filed a complaint with police. According to Chamish, several attempts have been made on his life of late, disguised to appear as a car accident. Fortunately, in all cases, he managed to gain control of his vehicle, escaping unharmed. Following are the events which transpired over recent days, as described by Chamish on Monday, June 19. Two days ago I drove my car to Tel Aviv. I took a sharp curve in the city and I lost all electrical power in my car. If this had happened while driving on the highway I would have been killed. My car was towed to a garage and checked. Someone had opened the box below the steering wheel, disengaged the airbag and wrapped the electrical wires around the steering column. When I turned the wheel, the wires ripped out cutting off all control of the vehicle. The mechanics had never seen this kind of damage. Tonight I gave a lecture in Bet Shemesh. On the way, this time on the highway, my back wheel collapsed and my brakes and handbrakes ceased functioning. I managed, just barely, to regain control of the car. I almost was in a fatal accident. I pulled the car into a nearby service station and hitched a ride to my lecture. This time I was prepared. When the lecture ended, I returned to the car with my host David Morris and his friend Yaakov Kirschenbaum, an insurance adjuster. We were followed all the way by a government jeep. The giveaway was the ‘77’ in the license plate, the number given to official vehicles. Yaakov looked at the wheel, filmed and photographed the brakes, while David called the police. Officer Dror of the Bet Shemesh police force saw that someone had cut the back axle of the car confirmed that it was sabotaged and filed a report saying so. ### From the Rumor Mill News Read Only Forum Re: Barry Chamish-Israel-UPDATE Posted By: Noah Date: Thursday, 22 June 2000, 8:56 p.m. In Response To: Barry Chamish-Israel (Noah) THE GIRL IN THE WINDOW by Barry Chamish I received a most disturbing phone call from Yannai G. of Tsfat today. Last week, he e-mailed my article, explaining why Shimon Peres was too criminal to be our next president, to numerous members of the Knesset. A day after my car was sabotaged, he had a similar incident with his motorcycle. In his case, his accelerator was jammed. When he braked, the motorcycle's speed increased and could not be reduced. He saved himself by turning off the ignition and using his emergency brake. His mechanic later explained that he's never seen damage like that before. It appears that a desperate and dangerous Peres, is trying to put an end to anyone who exposes his shady past and corrupt present. If, G-d forbid, I meet my demise, recall, he is my first suspect. Again, the dirtier the situation turns, the quicker I release new evidence. After my near brush with fatality last Saturday night, I released a video clip of Yigal Amir verbally accosting Rabin shortly before his assassination. Reaction was strong. The clip, which was broadcast on Israel Channel One after Rabin's murder, proves the Shabak had to have known Amir and under normal circumstances would never have permitted him entrance to the sterile area where he shot Rabin with blanks. Many people commented that the Amir of the clip might be a phoney because he is not wearing a kippah and looks a bit different than the real thing. Perhaps, but the fact that Israel Television announced that it was Amir had the same effect, of proving to the public that Amir was unstable, radical and stalking Rabin...all the reasons, if true, that he would never have been able to shoot him unless allowed to. In light of the latest report from Tsfat, I am releasing a far more contentious piece of evidence. As my readers understand, I contend that the driver of Rabin's car on the murder night, Menachem Damti, rought sundry family members to the sterile area and that his twelve year old daughter snuck into the backseat of Rabin's Cadillac, slammed the door shut and soon after, witnessed the assassination within the car. Arthur V., a computer expert, using sophisticated photo filter technology, has extracted a picture of, if not the girl, someone in the backseat of Rabin's car shortly before he was placed within it. Looking at the original photo Arthur had to work
Re: [CTRL] Aleisha's Rants, Illuminiati,
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Re: [CTRL] Mother Teresa
Thanks for the additional links Sam! I e-mailed Aroup Chatterjee quite a whilst ago, seems the web site now has a lot more information posted! Hitchens does tend to come across as a bit of an arrogant prick, but its difficult to imagine who else would've had the balls to write a book like that, especially in exposing a "saint" of the politically powerful and media dominant RCC and naming her what she really was - a charlatan and crook. She was no 'saint' because of any high virtue in helping, or morally giving to humanity, or raising it to a higher level materially, socio-economically, or spiritually, but because she was/is a myth created by global media networks and the Vatican. The Papacy, as you may know, has had centuries to create and perfect its plethora of bleeding 'saints', 'Madonna's, 'miracle's 'relics', 'holy texts' and 'visions' et al - from its gigantic and proliferate forgery mill to manipulate the superstitious and gullible. The good book tells me that the 'devil' and his all 'ministers' can be transformed into "ANGEL(s) of LIGHT" - many therefore, who are worshipping and supporting these Vatican "saints" and et al, are blind to the fact they are giving homage to 'devils' ... "For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles".Revelation 16:14 BTW - as an aside - did you know when that chap in England wrote 'Hitler's Pope' last year - the book was at once recalled and pulped because of a book-binding "accident" - pages were printed out of order! But I think its managed to resurface again? - Original Message - From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mother Teresa David - Yes, Christopher Hitchens isn't the only source for such info - in fact, he so deeply offends some people that when I have a discussiion about Mother Teresa, I usually don't mention his work. One of MT's former Sisters of Mercy (Sister Virgin/Susan Shields) has written about her nine-year experience. Also, a doctor in London, Aroup Chatterjee, who is from Calcutta, has written a book about MT. He also wrote in opposition to her pending sainthood. Here are links to some of their information: http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/shields_18_1.html Mother Teresa's House of Illusions How She Harmed Her Helpers As Well As Those They `Helped' by Susan Shields http://website.lineone.net/~bajuu/ The Mother of All Myths and SUBMISSION BEFORE THE COMMITTEE FOR BEATIFICATION/CANONISATION OF MOTHER TERESA by Aroup Chatterjee -- Samantha In a message dated 6/23/00 12:55:00 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Missionary Position : Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/185984054X/o/qid=961739249/sr=8-2/ref =aps_sr_b_1_4/002-9965160-5060825 Review: "In discussing this book with my friends and co-workers, I found that they reacted with the same "raised-eyebrow shock" that I did. But what we also shared was the same mis-quided, media driven vision of a person that was suposedly unquestionable. After reading this book, intently I might add, I wanted answers. I want to know where all the donations to Mother Teresa's organiztion has gone because it certainly hasn't gone to the poor. I want to know why Mother Teresa has posed in pictures with the wife of a dictator, with a man claiming to have a higher spiritual consciousness than Jesus himself, and with Charles Keating, the man who financially raped so many. Her actions and her words are not congruent and I am thankful to those who look at a situation and make the hard decisions. Christopher Hitchens is intelligent and courageous for writing this book and I am now a fan. The book was well written with sources that will withstand independant scrutiny. I don't know how anyone, after reading this book, could say that Mother Teresa is a saint." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL
