Re: [CTRL] AP: Group wants court to oversee Clinton e-mail transfer to archives
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/14/2001 12:24:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (AP) A conservative legal group that has fought for access to thousands of lost Clinton administration e-mails wants a judge to oversee the transfer of the restored files to the National Archives after Clinton leaves office. Judicial Watch has dogged Clinton with lawsuits throughout his two terms, most recently taking the administration to court to force production of the e-mails. The group on Friday asked U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth to appoint a special master to oversee the transfer of the records to the archives. Such a transfer is required under the Presidential Records Act of 1978. I don't particularly want to read Clinton's e-mails, but I'd sure like to peruse the correspondence that Judicial Watch produces. They're such an interesting group. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hamburger Meat and the Kosovo Cancer Cluster: Destroying Those We ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/14/2001 12:42:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These rounds are apparently denser than steel (and are thus great as armor-piercing rounds) and also apparently explode on impact (whether this is due to the fact that they are made of depleted uranium, or because they are incendiary rounds, has not been clearly reported). In addition, they are also quite radioactive and thus poisonous to human life. This is not an indictment of our action in Kosovo. It is an indictment of our military establishment which cannot seem to understand just what its weapons do. Since they have been using the same depleted uranium on Vieques, one might think that the increased cancer rates there might have given them a clue, but what's the difference they must say, since our good friends in the arms business are making big profits and contributing mightily to the campaigns of our friends in congress. It is true that Clinton finally went forward with military assistance in the former Yugoslavia, but he certainly didn't choose the weapons to be used. I'm sure he left that up to his military advisers (Strangeloves every one). The military has always gone by the principle that military members and adjacent civilian populations are expendable. And don't forget, had President George Herbert Walker Bush said one little word when the Serbs started this mess, there would never have been a need for any weapons to be used there. He would only have been required to raise his head and say stop. He did not. Years later, Thomas Eagleberger responded to a question as to why he did not by saying, "He had business interests there." I hope they were very profitable. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 554 Law Professors Say ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/14/2001 1:32:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are lots of names surrounding the text. About 10% are barely readable. The remaining names and affiliations are completely illegible. I find this curious for an advocacy ad, but given the substance of the ad and the supposed positions of the signers, perhaps I can understand. Let's see if I can condense all the outrage I feel about this ad into a single thought. Do these Great Men dedicated to the rule of law protest every decision of the Court where the Court assumes power for itself, or do the Great Men limit their displeasure to cases where they don't like the result? That would be hard to tell, but it would save this country a lot of money and effort if all federal elections were decided by the Supreme Court. Why not simply present a slate chosen by each party to the Court? They can decide who is to reign and we will all be spared the kind of trauma resulting from attempts to manage the votes of citizens who for some silly reason think their votes should be counted. All this bruhaha is unseemly. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] REU: Clinton Friend Riady Appears in Federal Courtroom
-Caveat Lector- Clinton Friend Riady Appears in Federal Courtroom By Dan Whitcomb LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Indonesian billionaire James Riady, who agreed to plead guilty to breaking federal election laws and pay a record $8.6 million fine, made a brief court appearance on Tuesday as a conservative watchdog group urged a judge to reject his controversial plea deal. Riady, a friend of President Clinton, appeared before a federal magistrate in Los Angeles for arraignment. The case was then transferred to U.S. District Judge Ronald Lew, who must approve the plea agreement and impose sentence. The Justice Department (news - web sites) said last week that Riady had reached a deal with prosecutors under which he will plead guilty to illegally reimbursing campaign donors with foreign corporate funds and pay $8.6 million in fines. LippoBank California, which is affiliated with Lippo Group, the Riady family conglomerate in Indonesia, has agreed to plead guilty to 86 misdemeanor counts charging that Riady and former Lippo employee John Huang made illegal foreign campaign contributions from 1988 through 1994. Riady's plea deal, which spares him prison time, has come under fire from some as a ``wrist-slap'' to the billionaire businessman. Critics have also complained that the deal does not cover the years 1994 and 1995, when Riady was a key figure in the controversy over how Clinton and Vice President Al Gore (news - web sites) financed their 1996 reelection campaign. At Tuesday's hearing, lawyers for the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch said that they would ask Judge Lew -- an appointee of former President Ronald Reagan -- to reject Riady's plea deal. ``Judge Lew won't be considering the plea until well into the Bush-Cheney administration and we hope that a new Justice Department will pursue this case differently,'' Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said. ``We'll be there (at the plea hearing) asking that Lew reject it.'' Fitton said Judicial Watch was particularly incensed that ''the plea only goes until 1994, not 1995 and 1996 when the bigger crimes took place.'' The Wall Street Journal on Monday criticized Riady's plea deal in an editorial, writing that ``it is now well-established that money from Mr. Riady and his friends in 1995 and 1996 helped fuel a huge barrage of TV ads damaging GOP candidate Bob Dole and giving Mr. Clinton an early edge in the election.'' Conservative columnist William Safire on Monday called the $8.6 million fine a ``painless penalty'' to the wealthy Riady and will not convince him to ``tell the truth about his hugely successful purchase of White House influence.'' = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/14/2001 5:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder how long it's going to be before they put Jesus on a Wheaties box. Just as soon as He gets an agent. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NYP: REWARDING SILENCE
-Caveat Lector- REWARDING SILENCE Dick Morris Wednesday,January 17,2001 WHY would the Justice Department conclude a plea deal with Indonesian businessman James Riady just nine days before President Clinton and Attorney General Janet Reno leave office? Why demand only probation, community service and a fine that his billion-dollar-plus company, the Lippo Group, can pay for him? Why offer such a sweetheart deal to the man who orchestrated the contribution of millions in illegal Chinese money to Clinton's campaigns, especially when Riady has not cooperated or implicated anyone other than himself? Riady is also the man who paid former Deputy Attorney General Webb Hubbell $100,000 after he left office, at a time when the special prosecutor's office thought Hubbell might provide key evidence in the Whitewater case. Why let Riady off without requiring that he explain who asked him to pay Hubbell and why he did it? Why bring judicial proceedings against Riady to a close without first demanding to hear why he paid Whitewater co-conspirator and former Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker and his wife almost half a million dollars? These payments, over the past five years, coincided with the precise moments that Tucker was under maximum pressure to tell the truth about the Clintons and Whitewater. These questions cry out for answers as President Clinton leaves office having orchestrated his final coverup. If Clinton adds to this disgraceful record by rewarding the silence of Whitewater felon Susan McDougal with a pardon, the questions should intensify. Riady has been the paymaster of Clinton's efforts to buy silence from his dangerous aides and co-conspirators. The Justice Department indicted him - but not for the payments to Hubbell or Tucker, nor even for the 1995-'96 donations to Clinton from the Chinese. The charges related only to his pre-'95 donations to Clinton. Now, he has been permitted to plead out to even that, ending whatever leverage Justice ever had over him. That Riady is being let off with a slap on the wrist in the closing moments of this administration just adds to the insults to integrity in Clinton's stewardship. As Reno, Clinton Co. pack for departure, they are cleaning up any loose ends that could incriminate them. Rather than leave the decisions on indicting Riady to John Ashcroft, George W. Bush's pick to head Justice, Reno has seen to it that Riady will never squeal. Riady only has to plead to a single count of conspiracy to defraud by obstructing the work of the Federal Election Commission, have his billion-dollar company pay an $8.2 million fine and do 400 hours of community service (which he can perform in Jakarta). To make Lippo pay an $8 million fine is like forcing an elephant to endure a flea bite. And community service in Jakarta is about as enforceable as an order for the tide to not come in tomorrow. Had Reno not given Riady his pass, Bush's attorney general might have used the threat of imprisonment to make Riady answer some tough questions. After all, it was Riady who supplied the money that induced Hubbell to "roll over one more time," in the immortal words of the former deputy attorney general. If Clinton pardons McDougal, he will doubtless defend his action by saying that she has "paid her debt to society" by serving time in jail and that a pardon would just permit her to vote and participate in our nation's politics. This will miss the essential point - he is pardoning a woman whose non-cooperation with prosecutors is ongoing and deliberate. The president will say that Whitewater turned out to be nothing, because he was not prosecuted or indicted. That brings to mind the fellow who killed his parents, then begged for mercy because he was an orphan: Prosecution became unlikely once Tucker, Hubbell and McDougal kept quiet - and Clinton seems about to pardon one of them, while his Justice Department is letting the paymaster of the other two off with a token sentence. In 1996, a Clinton associate told me a message from Tucker to pass to the president. The message: Tell Clinton he owes me a pardon. He owes me a pardon. Now Clinton is about to pay his debts to at least some of the guilty for their silence that kept him out of trouble. It's one heck of a note on which to end an administration that Clinton pledged would be "the most ethical in history." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and
[CTRL] LLF: You Be the Judge
-Caveat Lector- 1/16/01 You Be the Judge An analysis of key opinions by Judge Ronnie White. The Landmark Legal Foundation In 1997, Missouri Supreme Court Judge Ronnie White was nominated by President Bill Clinton to become a federal district court judge. Senator John Ashcroft (R-MO), now President-elect George W. Bushs attorney general-designate, opposed Judge Whites nomination to the federal bench. Senator Ashcroft believed that Judge Whites judicial temperament, legal philosophy and approach to the law were not consistent with the requirements of a federal judgeship. The Senate rejected Judge Whites nomination in 1999. Landmark Legal Foundation, founded in 1976 is a conservative public interest law firm based in Kansas City, MO. Landmark has conducted a thorough legal analysis of dissenting opinions issued by Judge White. In each of the five highlighted cases the facts are enumerated, followed by excerpts of the majority opinion and then relevant aspects of the dissenting opinion issued by Judge White. State of Missouri v. Richard J Damask, 936 S.W.2d 565, Supreme Court of Missouri, December 17, 1996 Facts: This Case arose out of two different traffic checkpoints. These cases were consolidated in Damask. On November 22, 1994 Franklin County Sheriffs Department set up a drug checkpoint at eastbound I-44 exit 242. I-44 was a known drug running corridor and Franklin County Officials had been operating such checkpoints since June, 1994. The particular checkpoint in question operated from 4:00 a.m. until noon. The Sheriffs Department placed signs on both sides of the eastbound lanes of I-44, stating that a drug checkpoint was one mile ahead. Sheriffs deputies set up the drug checkpoint at the top of eastbound Exit 242 (the exit right before the purported checkpoint). Non-local motorists have little reason to exit I-44 on 242 because there is little in the way of food or lodging off this exit. Motorists were stopped and informed that the sheriffs department was conducting a drug enforcement checkpoint. Present at the checkpoint were clearly marked police vehicles and uniformed police officers. Sheriffs officers requested a valid license and registration. Further, Sheriffs officers inquired as to why that particular motorist had exited at 242. If the circumstances aroused reasonable suspicion, the officer asked for permission to search the vehicle. If the motorist refused, a drug sniffing dog was used to conduct an olfactory examination of the outside of the automobile. These procedures were conducted according to guidelines prepared by Corporal Michael Schatz of the Sheriffs Department. Richard Damask exited at 242 at 4:20 a.m. on November 22, 1994. When stopped by the police, Damask produced a valid drivers license. However, Damasks conduct aroused reasonable suspicion (he hesitated when asked why he stopped, he stated that he was turning around to purchase food when remnants of a meal were in the car, he appeared nervous). Police officers requested permission to search the car, Damask refused. A drug-sniffing dog alerted police to the trunk. Inside the trunk, officers found a several packages of marijuana. The stop and search lasted five minutes. The police stopped 66 cars and searched 10. Damask was the only person arrested. The second case involves a drug checkpoint located on U.S. 60 in Texas County. Texas County officials used procedures developed in Phelps County that had successfully interdicted thirty loads of contraband. Officials waited at a stop sign at the bottom of the first exit ramp after a placed sign on U.S. 60. As was the case in Franklin County, no travel facilities were located off the exit ramp. Officials stopped cars that had exited, asked for a license and registration, and questioned the driver as to his/her destination. Officials allowed any motorist who did not want to talk to proceed. If the officials developed a reasonable suspicion during the course of the stop, those officials were to ask permission to search the vehicle. If the motorist refused, a drug-sniffing dog was utilized. Garcia and Alverez arrived at the checkpoint. Police developed a reasonable suspicion (Alverez could not produce a valid drivers license, Alverez appeared nervous, they gave conflicting stories, there was a strong smell of perfume). Dogs alerted police to the spare tire of the car whereupon 37 pounds of marijuana were recovered. Majority Ruling: The lower court determined that the checkpoints in question constituted an unreasonable seizure and were thus, unconstitutional. The Majority held that the checkpoints were operated in a nondiscriminatory fashion and the checkpoints serve a legitimate government interest. These checkpoints did not rise to the level of unreasonable seizure. Consequently, the checkpoints were constitutional and the lower court was reversed. The Missouri Supreme Court noted that properly operated checkpoints are
[CTRL] IBT Church Seizure Update - 1/16/2001
-Caveat Lector- Friends, As you probably have heard, the US Supreme Court decided not to hear the very important case of the US vs. The Indianapolis Baptist Temple. Thus, I wrote the following letter to the Governor of the state of Indiana, to the Lieutenant Governor of the state of Indiana and to the Attorney General of the State of Indiana. I also sent it to the White House and the Vice President and called the marshall's office/sheriff's office to implore them not to seize or allow the seizure of this New Testament Church. Please go to www.indianapolisbaptisttemple.com and you can find contact info. The governor's email addy is [EMAIL PROTECTED] We need to take action on this; the clinton administration wants this church seized this week. Marshall Frank Anderson's number is 317-226-6566. Sheriff Jack Cottey's is 317-231-8200. Let's take action NOW lest we come to the point where we have no choice but to take up arms. God bless the patriots! Barb To the Governor of the State of Indianapolis: Dear Sir, It has come to my attention that the United States Supreme Court has refused to hear the case of the United States vs. the Indianapolis Baptist Temple. This is a grave indicator of the state of our nation, indeed. The IBT owes no taxes, sir, and I'm sure that you know that. The IBT is, instead, being punished for not registering or getting a license from the state which would allow the state to be involved in what should belong solely to God. If the Federal Martials seize this church, sir, it will set a precedent of enormous magnitude which will have a profound impact on us all. I ask you, sir; I beg you, please do NOT let this church be unconstitutionally seized. Please stand up for what is right, and I have faith that you know what is right because you, too, are an American. Patrick Henry witnessed the beating of a minister, a beating that was so horrific that one could see the minister's ribs through his tattered flesh. When Mr. Henry inquired as to why the man was being so badly beaten and whipped, he was informed that it was because he was a minister and would not take a license. This bothered Mr. Henry so badly that the young christian lawyer went back to the Continental Congress where he gave his famous speech which ended with the famous words, "Give me liberty or give me death." The whole speech was entitled "The War Inevitable", a fact which holds true today if we are increasingly subjected to communistic type rule. Our Founders declared independence from a government of tyranny and despotism. We cannot, and will not, allow the seizing of this church and ask that you will do what is right by standing with Americans as an American. God bless and in Liberty Barbara Alford + + + Update Jan. 12, 2001 Attorney for IBT Makes Request to See Janet Reno by Becky Whyde Indianapolis Baptist Temple Some media sources told IBT that Federal Marshal Frank Anderson went to Washington, D.C., to visit with U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno. The IBT leaders followed by asking attorney Al Cunningham to make request that the Church leaders also have an audience with the Attorney General Reno. The Church hopes to hear from the Attorney General's office sometime today. In the mean time, the people of IBT remain on alert. Many are in the services each evening, with 150 - 200 people staying overnight throughout the buildings. Today is the 58th day of the peaceful redress of grievance from members and supporters. Services will continue nightly. Most of those present have never been in church services for 57 straight nights. * EMERGENCY BULLETIN ALERT God has provided another miracle and opportunity! We need you to respond now! Pray and please call or fax to the U.S. Supreme Court the following message: Please hear the case of Indianapolis Baptist Temple (IBT) set for conference of January 12, 2001, Docket No. 00-761. The phone number is: (202) 279-3011 The fax number is: (202) 279-2971 The address for OVERNIGHT courier (Federal Express 1-800-463-3339, AIRBORNE EXPRESS 1-800-247-2676, UPS 1-800-742-5877, etc.), U.S. Mail, or Western Union https://www2.westernunion.com/webmt/MSGjump.asp?src=TGHome.xsl (800-634-1311) is: Supreme Court of the United States 1 First Street N.E. Washington, D.C. 20543 It is IMPERATIVE that this request be in the Supreme Court no later than Friday evening January 12, 2001. Supreme Court Justices Chief Justice William Rehnquist Justice Stephen Breyer Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Justice Anthony Kennedy Justice Sandra Day O'Connor Justice Antonin Scalia Justice David Souter Justice John Paul Stevens Justice Clarence Thomas Update from Jan. 10, 2001 FOR IMMEDIATE NEWS RELEASE JANUARY 10, 2001 AD FOR INFORMATION CONTACT IBT AT (317) 787- 0830 or (317) 783-6753br
[CTRL] [pastorman] Letter to the President
-Caveat Lector- Beloved, This comes from a good man who labors with the John Birch Society. FYI. pastorman - Original Message - From: Elaine Gundling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: Fw: Letter to the President Dear Phil, Please forward to your Knox list, and urge them to write,call,email their 2 senators to NOT ratify this treaty. Thank you. Paul Elaine - Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:52:58 EST Subject: Letter to the President Message-ID: snip December 15, 2000 Dear Mr. President: Several internationalist luminaries, including former defense secretary Robert S. McNamara and jurist Benjamin B. Ferencz, have urged you to sign the International Criminal Court (ICC) statute before December 31st as your presidency's "last act." It is our hope that you will, in an uncharacteristic display of constitutional statesmanship, decline to do so. This is not to say that we entertain any illusions about the charade that is being played out for public consumption regarding the ICC. The December 11, 2000 issue of The New York Times contained a story - almost certainly planted by your administration - reporting that you had "not ruled out" signing the ICC statute. The same planted story described the "frustration" supposedly experienced by David M. Scheffer, your administration's ambassador-at-large for war crimes issues, as he has struggled to craft a workable ICC and tried to overcome your "reluctance" to support the institution. As the second act of this charade, the Times published, the very next day, an op-ed column by McNamara and Ferencz urging you to abandon your pose of opposition and sign the ICC treaty, thereby "safeguard[ing] humankind from genocide, crimes against humanity and the ravages of war itself." Failure to sign the treaty, they insisted, would "weaken our credibility and moral standing in the world." If this charade plays out according to an all-too-familiar script, you will heroically triumph over your hesitancy and quietly sign the ICC treaty as the crowning touch to your legacy. Signing the ICC would be perfectly in character with scores of other outrages against the rule of law for which you have been responsible - such as your decision to grant clemency to 11 cop-killers from the Marxist FALN terrorist group, your receipt of bribes (in the form of illegal campaign contributions) from the People's Republic of China and the missile-technology concessions you extended to them in return, and the sundry acts of perjury, subornation of perjury, and obstruction of justice you undertook and commissioned in an attempt to conceal your sexual affair with an employee less than half your age. We are not tormented by the illusion that we can appeal to either your patriotism or sense of honor, since you are demonstrably unburdened by such virtues. Nor do we believe that we can shame you into doing the right thing, since you have made it clear that you are immune to shame. The purpose of this letter is simply to put you on notice that we know what you are up to, and that we will do everything honorable in our power to see that your tactics come to naught. By signing the ICC, you would set the stage for what Dr. Charles Rice of the University of Notre Dame has called the "repeal of the Fourth of July." It would make all Americans subject to trial, in a foreign land, before a standing United Nations tribunal composed of jurists from foreign nations - many of which have no understanding of, or sympathy for, the concept of constitutionally protected individual rights. Former Justice Department Counsel Lee Casey has pointed out that the ICC statute "contains no habeas corpus provisions, no right to bail, and no other means of compelling the [ICC] to conduct a speedy trial." He also points out that, under the "international standards" that may govern the ICC, suspects may be detained for five years or more without being charged with a crime. UN tribunals for Yugoslavia and Rwanda - the existing models for the permanent ICC - have followed a presumption of guilt, rather than of innocence. Prosecutors have availed themselves of hearsay evidence (sometimes second and third-hand) and have denied the accused the right to confront his accusers and witnesses against him. Furthermore, in both of those tribunals a defendant's refusal to provide self-incriminating testimony has been used as evidence of guilt. British human rights activist Barry Crawford, who has been an observer at the UN's tribunal for Rwanda, advises that "In order to enforce its edicts, people have been quite literally kidnapped and detained in secret locations and denied access to defense counsel." Once again, that
[CTRL] Conservative Funders
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[CTRL] The Strategic Philanthropy of Conservative Foundations
-Caveat Lector- http://www.mediatransparency.org/movement.asp A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Proposed EPA Chief Whitman's Enviro Record Is $#!T!
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for posting this, Bill. I sent this article to a friend who doesn't believe me about Whitman. In the six years she's been gov of NJ, the state has turned into an oasis of McMansions and strip malls in a desert of woodlands. Tenorlove --- William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHITMAN'S ENVIRONMENTAL RECORD IS ABYSMAL __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HUNDREDS SEE 'JESUS' ON MUSLIM'S HOUSE
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey! I saw HIM too. All the way from here. HE had a beard and looked a lot like Jeffery Hunter right? The best one I read about was regarding a Mexican family who had immigrated to Texas, who saw an image of Jesus in a piece of toast that popped out of their toaster, and who immediately set up a shrine to the toast, visited by thousands of the faithful. While I am not the avowed atheist that J2 is, I do believe the Divine, whatever and whomever it may be, has better things to do than perform cheap parlor tricks with toast, stained walls, dirty windows, etc. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mastadon (was: Global warming claims 'based on false data'??)
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frozen Mastodons with undigested food in their stomachs are really intriguing though. Speaking of which, whatever became of the mastadon they showed on a documentary a few months ago, which was excavated intact in one huge block of ice, and shown being airlifted by helicopter out of the site? Weren't they supposed to bring it somewhere to study it? At the time, there was much speculation regarding whether there might be enough viable DNA to attempt cloning it... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Congo President Laurent Kabila killed
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/17/world/17CONG.html?pagewanted=all January 17, 2001 Congo Leader Reportedly Dead After Being Shot by Bodyguard By NORIMITSU ONISHI BIDJAN, Ivory Coast, Jan. 16 - President Laurent Kabila of Congo, who deposed one of Africa's great dictators but then brought his country into even worse disarray, was shot and killed today, diplomats and associates said. The president was shot by one of his bodyguards, according to John E. Aycoth, a lobbyist and public relations consultant in Washington who acts as Mr. Kabila's spokesman in the United States. He said he had talked to top Congolese officials, who told him that the president was dead. The killing was also reported by Louis Michel, foreign minister of Belgium, Congo's former colonial ruler, who said he was told of Mr. Kabila's death by "two trustworthy sources." The circumstances of the shooting were not immediately known, but one report said that it had involved a dispute between Mr. Kabila and some of his generals. The Congolese government gave no details of the incident, but announced that it had sealed borders, closed the airport and imposed a night curfew. A televised address by President Kabila's personal chief of staff, Col. Edy Kapend, suggested the seriousness of the events. Soldiers surrounded the presidential palace, according to reports from the capital, Kinshasa, though the city itself appeared calm. There was no indication who was in charge. Ordering senior commanders to bring their units under control, Colonel Kapend said: "No shots may be fired, for whatever reason, without prior order. The population must not be thrown into panic and the troops must not grow agitated." The government's minister of interior, Gaetan Kakudji, one of Mr. Kabila's closest allies, went on state television to say that the president himself had ordered the curfew, suggesting that he was still alive. But in Washington, a senior administration official said the United States has received several reports from credible sources that Mr. Kabila had been assassinated. "Our operating assumption is that he is dead," the official said. Mr. Kabila's death would dramatically alter the dynamics of a two- and-a-half-year war that has drawn in half a dozen African nations and destabilized all of Central Africa. Mr. Kabila, who deposed the longtime dictator Mobutu Sese Seko in 1997, had long been considered the main obstacle to any diplomatic resolution to the current conflict, and had become increasingly isolated in his four years in office. It was not clear tonight who might have led the shooting of Mr. Kabila, though his standing in the military had fallen recently. After months of stalemate during which the warring parties had seemed satisfied with carving up Congo and feasting on its natural resources, Mr. Kabila's forces suffered a serious defeat late last year in Katanga, the mineral-rich province in the southeast. Shots were heard this afternoon near the presidential palace, where fighting also had occurred, according to the United Nations in New York, citing Kamel Morjane, the United Nation's special envoy to Congo, who was in Kinshasa. While Mr. Kabila had promised to deliver the Congolese from the years of Mr. Mobutu's dictatorship, he immediately banned all political parties after coming to power. And he never followed through on his promise to hold elections in April 1999, instead running the country himself, with the help of a strong military. Mr. Kabila steadily lost popularity in the capital. He traveled only at night, because during the day pedestrians would lift their shirts to show their bellies at his passing motorcade as a sign that they were hungry. Yet Mr. Kabila had made no effort to end the crippling war, which has displaced up to two million people within the country and pushed a quarter of a million more into neighboring countries. In fact, he appeared to do whatever he could to disrupt diplomatic progress. After a peace accord was signed 18 months ago, Mr. Kabila ignored its contents. At every turn, he blocked the United Nations from even beginning the process of deploying troops in the Congo. The United Nations, which currently has about 500 civilian and military officials in Congo, has been authorized to deploy 5,000 peacekeepers. But it has not done so mainly because of Mr. Kabila. Susan E. Rice, the assistant secretary of state for African affairs, said that Mr. Kabila's death, if confirmed, would create "a significant change in the landscape." The United States will soon warn Congo's neighbors not to try to profit from the death of Mr. Kabila, she said. "We would urge all belligerents not to try to take advantage of this to further their own interests," Ms. Rice said in an interview in Washington. She pressed rebels and their foreign allies to "work collectively to be a part of the solution that
Re: [CTRL] New BSE inquiry raises fears over milk safety
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/15/2001 1:32:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The majority of the 1m or so animals thought to have entered the human food chain while infected with BSE were dairy cows, whose milk would have been consumed for years before they died. It's alarming to think that the cow in Italy that just was found to be infected with BSE was a four year old dairy cow. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Disease of Bipartisanship: Will It Infect The Environment?
-Caveat Lector- The Disease of Bipartisanship: Will It Infect The Environment? By Carla Binion Gale Norton, G. W. Bush's Interior Department nominee, does not believe global warming is a problem. She also advocates "takings" legislation. Will the disease of bipartisanship cause afflicted Senators to approve Norton's nomination? Takings proponents such as Norton claim that environmental regulations interfere with private property rights. In "Eyes Right," (edited by Chip Berlet, South End Press, 1995) Tarso Ramos of the Western States Center in Portland, Oregon, reports that Richard Epstein, an originator of the takings movement, openly said his position on takings "invalidates much of the twentieth century legislation." Epstein's invalidated legislation would include the National Labor Relations Act, civil rights legislation and minimum wage laws. Minimum wage laws, says Epstein, are "undoubted partial takings." He also argues against collective bargaining. According to Ramos, President Ronald Reagan embraced Richard Epstein's doctrine and codified it with Executive Order 12630, which said that "[e]xecutive departments and agencies should review their actions carefully to prevent unnecessary takings and should account in decision-making for those takings that are necessitated by statutory mandate." The Reagan Administration's Solicitor General Charles Fried discussed Reagan's Executive Order 12630 in his memoir. Fried wrote: "Attorney General [Edwin] Meese and his young advisors -- many drawn from the ranks of the then fledgling Federalist Societies and often devotees of the extreme libertarian views of Chicago law professor Richard Epstein -- had a specific, aggressive, and, it seemed to me, quite radical project in mind: to use the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment as a severe brake upon federal and state regulation of business and property. The grand plan was to make government pay compensation as for a taking of property every time its regulations impinged too severely on a property right -- limiting the possible uses for a parcel of land or restricting or tying up a business in regulatory red tape. If the government labored under so severe an obligation, there would be, to say the least, much less regulation." Taros Ramos writes that Reagan's Executive Order 12630 "amounted to a presidential order against regulating industry and an attack on public interest law." Many environmental, labor and civil rights organizations see takings as an extremist anti-environmental and anti-labor doctrine. Robert Kennedy, Jr., has denounced Gale Norton for her support of takings. According to Taros Ramos, groups that oppose takings legislation include: the Sierra Club, the National Parks and Conservation Association, the National Audubon Society, Defenders of Wildlife, National Wildlife Federation, the Wilderness Society, Coalition Against Childhood Lead Poisoning, United Food and Commercial Workers Union, United Steelworkers of America, Alliance for Justice, National Urban League, Public Citizen, and the AFL-CIO Industrial Union Department. Environmental researcher William Kevin Burke also contributed to "Eyes Right," (edited by Chip Berlet, 1995.) Burke says the Wise Use agenda includes "removing present environmental protections and preventing future environmental reforms." Wise Use, according to Burke, was a fundraising idea of Ron Arnold and Alan Gottlieb. Arnold once worked for the Sierra Club, but for a few years was also "a registered agent for the American Freedom Coalition, a political offshoot of Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church," says Burke. Alan Gottlieb has served as a fundraiser for a variety of right-wing interests. Ron Arnold also co-authored a flattering biography of former Secretary of the Interior James Watt, Gale Norton's mentor. Watt consistently favored corporate interests over environmental protection with his efforts to open federal lands to logging and mining and his work to eliminate environmental regulation. Today Gale Norton supports George W. Bush's plan to open Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil exploration. Bush supporters say a president has a right to choose his cabinet. They claim his opponents object only because his nominees are "conservative." Wouldn't a conservative want to conserve, rather than exploit, the natural environment? Some bipartisanship promoters imply Democratic Senators should rubber stamp all Bush nominees without serious challenge. However, conscientious Senators are the only buffer between any potentially harmful Bush appointees and the public's civil liberties and environmental protections. Newsman Dan Rather told David Letterman on his Monday, January 15, program that the Senate is very much a club [no surprise], and that Bush's Ashcroft nomination would surely pass. Any Democratic Senators more concerned with appeasing other Senators than with challenging the status quo on the public's behalf have
Re: [CTRL] HUNDREDS SEE 'JESUS' ON MUSLIM'S HOUSE
-Caveat Lector- Several years ago in a mexican resturant in down town L.A. , Elvis appeared to the faithful on a corn tortilla. Bill In a message dated 1/17/01 6:07:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey! I saw HIM too. All the way from here. HE had a beard and looked a lot like Jeffery Hunter right? The best one I read about was regarding a Mexican family who had immigrated to Texas, who saw an image of Jesus in a piece of toast that popped out of their toaster, and who immediately set up a shrine to the toast, visited by thousands of the faithful. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Bush-Monsanto-Ashcroft Connection by Robert Cohen
From: http://www.notmilk.com/ Many of you wrote to me requesting a list of PAC donations made by Monsanto. An interesting event has occurred. Nearly one-billion dollars were spent on the elections, and Monsanto is aware that they are under the microscope. Do they stop giving, or do they give in different forms that are not easily observed? During the 2000 election cycle, Monsanto gave a total of only $63,350 to Congress...on the record. Nobody will ever know what amounts were invested in the form of soft money, cash money, party favors, and gifts. The $63,350 paid to 435 members of Congress and 100 members of the Senate averages out to $118 per member. Sure. I believe that. The man receiving the second highest total dollars from Monsanto was Larry Combest (R-TX). He got $2000. Combest is the powerful chairman of the House Agriculture Committee. Who got the most from Monsanto? The winner of the Monsanto sweepstakes with $10,000 was John Ashcroft, (R-MO). Ever hear of the man? You will in the coming weeks during the Senate's confirmation hearings. Now...for those of you who are not regular readers of the notmilk column, let's review the Bush/Monsanto connection. FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT Monsanto's lawyer was appointed to the Supreme Court by George Bush, Sr. The deciding swing voter gave the election to George, Jr. That justice: Clarence Thomas, Esq. SECOND Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, was president of Searle Pharmaceuticals, purchased by Monsanto. THIRD Ann Veneman, Secretary of Agriculture, was on the board of directors of Calgene Pharmaceuticals, purchased by Monsanto. FOURTH Tommy Thompson, Secretary of Health, was a supporter of Monsanto in Wisconsin. He received $50,000 from biotech firms is his election run, and used state funds to set up a a $317 million biotech zone in Wisconsin. FIFTH Mitch Daniels, Director of the Office of Management and Budget. Daniels was the vice president of corporate strategy at Eli Lilly Pharmaceutical Company. Eli Lilly and Monsanto developed the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone. Lilly "owns" the European "franchise." Daniels' presence insures that the bovine growth hormone will one day be approved for use in Europe. SIXTH The House of Representatives Committee Agriculture Chairman, Larry Combest (R-TX), has named Richard Pombo to head Agriculture's dairy, livestock, and poultry sub-committee. Pombo will have enormous power in chairing this committee. I remember Pombo as being a long-time member of Dairy, Livestock, and Poultry. In 1994, the approval process for Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine growth hormone became the greatest controversy in FDA history. At that time, the Dairy Committee considered a bill that would label milk and milk products containing the genetically engineered hormone. After all, Americans had a right to know what they are eating...right? The Dairy Committee stalled the proposed bill until the 1994 elections. When the 1994 session of Congress expired, the bill died. It was never even voted upon. I began to investigate milk, milk hormones, and milk politics at about that time. I researched PAC donations, and learned that Pombo had accepted a total of $252,600 in PAC money that year. Remarkably, $84,385 waw given to him from private companies and groups doing business in Agriculture. Talk about buying votes! Even more remarkable was Pombo's relationship with Monsanto. I learned that this man had the audacity to accept money directly from Monsanto while voting on a bill that impacted Monsanto's future, and the future of biotechnology. I've called that PAC donation a bribe, and I continue to do so. BRIBERY Bribery is defined as the act or practice of giving or accepting money or some other payment with the object of influencing the action or judgment at a parliamentary hearing or other election. During the 2000 election cycle, Pombo accepted over $450,000. The dairy industry contributed $17,100, and groups with agriculture interests "donated" more than double the 1994 amounts. Now, Pombo runs the Dairy Committee. SEVENTH Last, but not least. John Ashcroft, Attorney General. The one man out of 535 members of the House of Representatives and the Senate receiving the greatest amount of financial support from Monsanto. He received five times the amount of money as the congressman finishing second. Where do Americans finish in this stranger than fiction real-life drama? Last. -- -- Robert Cohen author of: MILK - The Deadly Poison (201-871-5871) Executive Director ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Dairy Education Board http://www.notmilk.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:29:07 + From: Top View [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Subject: Ashcroft ( bush, Supreme Ct, etc) TOTALLY In Monsanto's Palm: real-life Pelican Brief unfolds before us Ashcroft
Re: [CTRL] Is John Ashcroft A Draft Dodger ?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/16/2001 10:26:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BOSTON (Reuters) - President-elect Bush's controversial candidate for attorney general, John Ashcroft, received a deferment from military service to teach business law to undergraduates at the height of the Vietnam War, the Boston Globe reported on Tuesday. Under Selective Service guidelines in force in 1967, the exemption from service was allowed for people holding jobs deemed critical to the civilian economy such as chemists, engineers and mathematicians, the Globe said. Come on guys, he did just what everyone who could did. I think that Al Gore may have been the only one inside the Beltway who wore a uniform during the war in Vietnam. Those who couldn't get a deferment, joined the Air Force. We had tons of guys in the Air Force who decided it was better than being drafted into the Army and ending up in the infantry. I know they've been yodeling about Clinton being a draft dodger for the past eight years, but like the sex stuff and all the rest of the garbage that was presented as the most awful thing that ever happened in the history of the world, those who were spreading the Clinton material were dodging the draft and having affairs (including oral sex). Which reminds me, did anyone ever come up with the name of the junior congressman who was having a fling with Lewinsky at the same time she was snapping her thong at the Prez? Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] 1984 FAA MEMO: DU used commonly in aircraft manufacture poses...
FTW SUBSCRIBER BULLETIN 01-01 http://www.copvcia.com/du.htm 1984 FAA MEMO: DEPLETED URANIUM USED COMMONLY IN AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURE POSES SERIOUS HAZARD TO CRASH INVESTIGATORS http://www.copvcia.com/images/faa-du1.gif http://www.copvcia.com/images/faa-du2.gif (c) COPYRIGHT 2001. FROM THE WILDERNESS PUBLICATIONS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. www.copvcia.com. 818-788-8791. 01/11/01 - As the scandal regarding the 1999 U.S. use of depleted uranium (DU) rounds in Kosovo spreads and re-ignites controversy about the Gulf War Syndrome that has damaged the health of thousands of veterans, "From The Wilderness" has today obtained a copy of a 1984 FAA Advisory Circular - still in effect - that shows that DU has been in use as a component in aircraft manufacture for years and that the U.S. government has always treated DU as a hazardous material in full awareness of health risks it presents. The existence of this advisory bulletin belies the official U.S. Government position that it was largely unaware of health risks connected with DU and raises questions about U.S. prioritization of the relative value of human lives as it becomes increasingly apparent that the United States Government chose to not advise NATO allies in Kosovo or Iraq, or even certain members of its own armed forces of known dangers connected with DU exposure. Moreover, the bulletin specifically indicates that U.S. aircraft manufacturers like McDonnell-Douglas, now owned by Boeing, routinely posted health advisory and safety precautions in aircraft manuals as far back as 16 years ago. This was, according to the FAA, a result of cadmium-plated DU being used as weights to balance "ailerons, rudders and elevators on certain jet aircraft and certain helicopters." FAA Advisory Circular 20-123, dated 12/20/84 is entitled "Avoiding or Minimizing Encounters With Aircraft Equipped With Depleted Uranium Balance Weights During Accident Investigations." The two-page memo was written to warn FAA crash site investigators that, as a result of an air crash, DU weights in various parts of the aircraft might have had their cadmium plating removed. The memorandum states "While the depleted uranium normally poses no danger, it is to be handled with caution. The main hazard associated with depleted uranium is the harmful effect the material could have if it enters the body. If particles are inhaled or digested, they can be chemically toxic and cause a significant and long-lasting irradiation of internal tissue." FAA spokesman Les Dorr today confirmed for FTW that the 1984 Advisory was valid and still in effect. The memo also contains the somewhat ironic statement, "... only 'depleted' uranium is used, which means it has been processed to remove most of its uranium 235, the most highly radioactive form used in nuclear power plants." The 1984 memorandum, written by FAA Director of Airworthiness, M.C. Beard, and circulated to all FAA crash site investigators, ends with a list of safety precautions for investigators at crash sites including protective gloves, eye protection, respirators and other protective clothing. The memorandum ends by stating that all such protective clothing should be discarded in containers labeled "radioactive waste" and disposed of accordingly. A full copy of the FAA memorandum, including FAA verification of its authenticity can be found at the end of this document. While the advisory itself does not specifically list which military or commercial aircraft are currently equipped with DU components FTW has contacted corporate spokespersons for the Boeing Aircraft Corporation in Seattle. As of this writing no response has been received. The current revelation, along with developing stories on Sarin Gas and CNN's wrongful termination of producers April Oliver and Jack Smith as well as the U.S. Government's insistence on the use of the fungicide fusarium oxysporum in Colombia are strong indicators that charges that the Unites States has assumed an arrogant and careless posture with regard to human life are well founded. As the major media ignore or downplay the damning evidence of American guilty foreknowledge in the use of DU, European media and European military allies increasingly wonder whether the U.S. has assumed an Imperial posture in its dealings with the rest of the world. This would include its so-called NATO allies who were reportedly not warned of the dangers of DU use in either the Middle East or the Balkans. Such questions also give new credibility to continuing claims from U.S. Gulf War veterans that they were used as Guinea Pigs in a conflict where DU was a main staple of the U.S. military machine. The FAA Advisory Circular was reported on by author journalist Craig Roberts ("The Medusa File")and disclosed in a casual e-mail on a list-serve discussion group this morning. FTW Publisher Mike Ruppert saw the e-mail and immediately notified Gulf War Vet Spokesperson Joyce Riley and French documentarians Audrey Brohy and Gerard
[CTRL] UNEP confirms Uranium 236 found in DU penetrators
The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, Belgrade, YU From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UNEP News Release,For information only-Not an official record)GENEVA, 16 January 2001 - Early laboratory results confirm that pieces of DU penetrators found at sites targeted by NATO during the 1999 Kosovo conflict contain Uranium 236, the United Nations Environment Programme UNEP) reported here today.Scientists working for the UNEP Depleted Uranium (DU) Assessment Group are analysing the contents of the seven penetrators - ammunition tips made out of depleted uranium - found during a UNEP field mission to Kosovo in November 2000. Isotope analyses to determine the types of uranium present show that 0.0028 percent of the uranium in the penetrators is in the form of isotope U-236. The presence of U-236 indicates that part of the DU came from reprocessed uranium. This information was provided by one of the five laboratories being used by UNEP for its DU assessment work. According to the laboratory the content of U-236 in the depleted uranium is so small that the radiotoxicity is not changed compared to DU without U-236. However, the final assessment by UNEP will be made only once results from all laboratories are available."This is first laboratory result based on our field work,"said UNEP Executive Director Klaus Toepfer. "We have asked the World Health Organization and all of our other partners for their assessments of this finding while we continue with the scientific analysis."UNEP's Kosovo field mission team, consisting of 14 experts from several countries, collected soil, water, and vegetation samples, conducted smear tests on buildings and destroyed army vehicles, and found penetrators and sabots. Remnants of DU ammunition were found at eight of the 11 sites that were visited.The 340 samples collected are now being analysed for both toxicity and radioactivity in five European laboratories in an effort to determine whether the use of DU during the Balkans conflict may pose any risks to human health or the environment.The results of the tests will be ready in early March 2001, when UNEP will publish a full report of its findings. Note to journalists: For more information, please contact UNEP Spokesperson Mr. Tore Brevik at +254-2-623292 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]; the UNEP Depleted Uranium Assessment Team Chairman Mr. Pekka Haavisto at +358-40-588 4720 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]; or UNEP press officer Mr. Michael Williams at +41-22-9178242, +41-79-409-1528 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]. See also http://balkans.unep.ch. UNEP News Release 01/04Robert Bisset Office of the Spokesman/DirectorCommunications and Public information UNEP, P.O. Box 30552, Nairobi, Kenya Tel. +254-2-623084, Fax. +254-2-623692 [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.unep.org__ Mrs Jela Jovanovic, art historian Secretary General
[CTRL] Fwd: THE FACE UPON THE FLOOR-Antoine D'Arcy
If you have ever visited a Press Club, you find often many mischief makers. Remember the Face on Mars? Ever hear of the ink blotch tests where some see demons and others see angels? Could not help but think of Bill Shannon when I read this one.you know we Irish have terrible name for being drinkers... Did you ever notice when you see an old movie and a pregnant peasant on a donkey, usually Mexican, they play holy music? So I thought about this all, and it is my hope those 7 million illegal immigrants that the Republicans are trying to be made legal - I hope they are all Catholic and believe Elian really talked to dolphins..and man, they would out number that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton bunch who are thieves using the name of God to make God Almighty Buck? So I thought of this old poem when I read of the face of Christ appearing to some, even if it was on a piece of toast.rather face of Christ on a Wall rather than the devil in our Oval Office? Saba Mail message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AleishaSaba) Date: Wed, Jan 17, 2001, 12:21pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aleisha Saba) Subject: Re: THE FACE UPON THE FLOOR-Antoine D'Arcy SO WHAT ABOUT THE FACE ON THE MOON? What about the ink blotch tests - where some see angels, and others see demons? I always liked this poem..and remember this St Paul didn't he used to meet at the Three Taverns.for in nearly every town, was a tavern? Saba The Face of the Bar Room Floor - see what a few drinks can do to a man THE FACE UPON THE FLOOR 'Twas a balmy summer evening, and a goodly crowd was there. Which well-nigh filled joe's barroom on the comer of the square, And as songs and witty stories came through the open door A vagabond crept slowly in and posed upon the floor. Where did it come from?" someone said: "The wind has blown it in." What does it want?" another cried. "Some whisky, rum or gin?" "Here, Toby, seek him, if your stomach's equal to the work I wouldn't touch him with a fork, he's as filthy as a Turk." This badinage the poor wretch took with stoical good grace; In fact, he smiled as though he thought he'd struck the proper place. "Come, boys, I know there's kindly hearts among so good a crowd To be in such good company would make a deacon proud. "Give me a drink-that's what I want-I'm out of funds, you know; When I had cash to treat the gang, this hand was never slow. What? You laugh as though you thought this pocket never held a sou; I once was fixed as well, my boys, as anyone of you. There, thanks; that's braced me nicely; God bless you one and all; Next time I pass this good saloon, I'll make another call. Give you a song? No, I can't do that, my singing days are past; My voice is cracked, my throat's wom out, and my lungs are going fast. "Sayl Give me another whisky, and I'll tell you what I'll do I'll tell you a funny story, and a fact, I promise, too. T'hat I was ever a decent man not one of you would think; But I was, some four or five years back. Say, give me another drink. 'Fill her up, Joe, I want to put some life into my frame- Such little drinks, to a bum like me, are miserably tame; Five fingers-there, that's the scheme-and corking whisky, too. Well, here's luck, boys; and, landlord, my best regards to you. "You've treated me pretty kindly, and I'd like to tell you how I came to be the dirty sot you see before you now. As I told you, once I was a man, with muscle, frame and health, And, but for a blunder, ought to have made considerable wealth. 'I was a painter-not one that daubed on bricks and wood But an artist, and, for my age, was rated pretty good. I worked hard at my canvas and was bidding fair to rise, For gradually I saw the star of fame before my eyes. "I made a picture, perhaps you've seen, 'tis called the 'Chase of Fame,' It brought me fifteen hundred pounds and added to my name. And then I met a woman-now comes the funny part- With eyes that petrified my brain, and sunk into my heart. 'Why don't you laugh? 'Tis funny that the vagabond you see Could ever love a woman and expect her love for me; But 'twas so, and for a month or two her smiles were freely given, And when her loving lips touched mine it carried me to heaven. ' Did you ever see a woman for whom your soul you'd give, With a form like the Milo Venus, too beautiful to live; With eyes that would beat the Koh-i-noor, and a wealth of chestnut hair? If so, 'twas she, for there never was another half so fair. "I was working on a portrait, one afternoon in May, Of a fair-haired boy, a friend of mine, who lived across the way, And Madeline admired it, and, much to my surprise, Said that she'd like to know the man that had such dreamy eyes. 'It didn't take long to know him, and before the month had flown My friend had stolen my darling, and I was left alone; And, ere a year of misery had passed above my head, The jewel I had treasured so had tarnished, and was dead. "That's why I took to drink, boys. Why, I never saw you smile, I thought
[CTRL] Something to Ponder-Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia George Wallace
Title: Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia: George Wallace I did not live in Alabama for most of Geo Wallace's tenure as governor but I was living here for his fourth (yep, 4th term). Much of the population did NOT support his segregationist antics and were embarrassed by some of his publicity-seeking stunts.Talk about a need for term limits!I also found it interesting that he was able to carry several states in his bid for the president despite not even being able to complete his campaign because of the assassination attempt,many far from the Deep South with 46 electoral votes. I have forgotten how many times he was shot, five or seven, but it was an amazing number of times for his to have survived. But what I am wanting those so into race-baiting and name-calling to think about is what is stated at the end of this very brief and NOT all-inclusive bio. What I would like people to understand is that it was the African-American population that elected this man tothat lastterm. This was much to thehorror of many whites who thought the State should be more progressive than this and found segregation morally wrong and pragmatically impossible. Why did the blacks do this? What were they thinking? When you understand what happened here, and it is a fact that he NEVER could have carried that election without almost total black support, then you will understand a great deal more about racial issues in the Deep South. It is complex and things are not what they seem.I will offer no explanations here and want each person to come to his own conclusion but I will say that most people do not have much of an understanding in this area. Amelia | They Would Be President | General Articles | The Presidents | GME Contents | GEORGE WALLACE George Corley Wallace, b. Clio, Ala., Aug. 25, 1919, is a DEMOCRATIC PARTY politician and four-time governor of Alabama. Between 1946 and 1958, Wallace was, successively, assistant state's attorney, a member of the state legislature, and a judge of the Third Judicial Circuit of Alabama. In 1962 he was elected governor after campaigning on a platform of defiant segregation. The following year he attempted to prevent black students from enrolling at the University of Alabama but yielded eventually to the authority of the National Guard. Wallace was ineligible to succeed himself as governor, and his wife, Lurleen, was elected to the post in 1966. In 1968 he won 46 electoral votes as the populist presidential candidate of the newly formed AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTY. In 1970 and 1974 he was reelected as governor. On May 15, 1972, while campaigning for the Democratic party's presidential nomination in Laurel, Md., he was shot in an assassination attempt that left him partially paralyzed. In 1982 he brought together a populist coalition of blacks and whites to win a fourth term as governor. He retired in 1987. For Further Reading Burke, Jerald P., With Liberty and Justice for All: The Political Philosophy of George C. Wallace (1976)Carlson, Jody, George C. Wallace and the Politics of Powerlessness (1981)Lesher, Stephan, George Wallace: American Populist (1994) | They Would Be President | General Articles | The Presidents | GME Contents | | Grolier Interactive Products | Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia (Subscribers Only) | Copyright © 2000 Grolier Incorporated. All rights reserved. go_tag.gif
[CTRL] Protesters Give Fujimori One-Way Ticket to Peru
-Caveat Lector- Protesters Give Fujimori One-Way Ticket to Peru Updated 9:22 AM ET January 16, 2001 TOKYO (Reuters) - Protesters demanding that disgraced former Peruvian President Alberto Fujimori go home on Tuesday handed him a one-way ticket back to Lima -- economy class. "We want him to go back as soon as possible and prove in Peru that he is innocent," Tatsuya Yoshioka, the director of the Japanese civic group Peace Boat, told Reuters. About 30 demonstrators from the group marched on Fujimori's residence-in-exile in Tokyo, only to be told by police guards that no one was home. They dispersed after dropping a one-way economy class air ticket and a letter signed by the protesters into his mailbox. Sunday, Fujimori said he would not return to Lima until he was cleared of accusations that he hoarded $18 million in secret bank accounts. Related Stories Peru's Fujimori Says No Return Until Money Probe (Jan 13 11:17 pm ET) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] American Lori Berenson May Face Retrial
-Caveat Lector- American May Face Retrial A Peru state prosecutor has recommended that American Lori Berenson, facing a civilian retrial after her 1996 life conviction as a Marxist rebel leader was annulled, be formally charged with "terrorist collaboration," a court official said yesterday. A senior prosecutor will rule on whether to start an open trial or recommend that charges against the 31-year-old from Manhattan, who says she is innocent, be dropped, Javier Llaquemoya said. The collaboration accusations carry a minimum 20-year sentence. In 1996, hooded military judges sentenced Berenson to life in a trial that Amnesty International called a "parody of justice." Civilian courts have in the past imposed lesser sentences of as little as five years for "collaboration." An open trial before a panel of judges could be held around mid-February. Peru does not have a jury system. The recommendations by state prosecutor Maria Peralta came after months of investigation that led to charges that Berenson collaborated with Marxist guerrillas in a foiled plot to storm Peru's Congress. " A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (OT-Parody-Humor Only) Hand-gun Control, Inc.
-Caveat Lector- Very extensive site just for fun. AKE Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Hand-gun Control, Inc. http://www.handguncontrolinc.org/Default.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Alan Garcia Re-Enters Peru Politics
-Caveat Lector- Alan Garcia Re-Enters Peru Politics Updated 12:16 PM ET January 14, 2001 ... (AP) By RICK VECCHIO, Associated Press Writer LIMA, Peru (AP) - At the dingy party headquarters, sooty from traffic fumes pouring through the windows, the sign says "Bread with liberty!" and a new vigor seems to flow among the militant faithful, now lapsing into middle age. Alan Garcia, Peru's former president and object of their reverence, has announced he is coming back from exile to try to recapture his old job in elections April 8. "He has acknowledged the failures of his first government," said Tito Paredes, 50, one of the self-described "active militants" who hang out at Aprista party headquarters in Lima's working-class district of Brena. "I believe he has more experience now, and if elected president he will assure the country's destiny." Whether the rest of Peru agrees is questionable. Some may still revere Garcia as the fiery young populist who defied the Western bankers during his 1985-90 presidency. Many others remember his term for its food shortages, corruption, terrorist attacks by the Maoist-inspired Shining Path movement and inflation that roared above 7,650 percent in 1990. Garcia fled to Colombia nine years ago, one step ahead of troops sent by President Alberto Fujimori to arrest him. Garcia says he will return to Peru by Jan. 20. His entry into the race is the latest twist in Peru's turbulent break from Fujimori, who fled to his ancestral homeland, Japan, in November, his autocratic regime collapsing under mounting corruption scandals. The strong favorite is Alejandro Toledo, a U.S.-trained economist who lost to Fujimori last year in an election riddled with irregularities and fraud allegations. But many analysts predict he will have a difficult time winning the 50 percent needed to avoid a runoff vote. There's no telling at this early stage how Garcia will do. Last year, Fujimori and his supporters tried to saddle Toledo with the Garcia legacy by deriding him as an "Alanista," a play on Garcia's first name. Toledo indignantly rejected the comparison. He says he welcomes Garcia's candidacy, but believes the former president should turn himself in to face outstanding charges of illicit enrichment - charges Garcia denies. For years, Fujimori's iron-fisted rule was tolerated, even lauded, by most Peruvians. They were grateful to him for taming leftist rebel insurgencies that Garcia could not control and cleaning up an economic disaster that resulted from his predecessor's policies. For many, Garcia personifies the bad old days. "It was not good when he was president," said Felicita Nunez, 31, a cook. "We were always in line to buy groceries, or searching for basic items. There was no rice, milk or sugar. If he goes back to being president, it could be like that again ... I think that the terrorism could return." But some political experts are not counting Garcia out. He is backed by a disciplined party that has the mystique of having survived prolonged persecution by military and civilian dictators. Support for Garcia never completely disappeared. Over the years, his name has consistently showed up at the low end of opinion polls. Garcia swept into office in 1985 as Latin America's youngest president at age 36, hailed in Peru as "the president of hope" and abroad as "Latin America's Kennedy." Initially, his policies produced an artificial economic boom, but it fed on massive spending that depleted Peru's reserves. He tried to nationalize the banking system and defiantly limited foreign debt payments to 10 percent of export earnings. Peru became a pariah among multinational lenders, credit dried up and hyperinflation followed. Analysts say the corruption charges against Garcia could be eclipsed in Peruvian minds by the alleged money laundering, influence peddling and illicit arms dealing that stained Fujimori's decade in power. "At this point, the public's memory is weak. People are prone to forget the achievements of Fujimori's administration," said Guillermo Loli, project coordinator at the independent polling firm Apoyo. "At the same time, they could be prone to forget the errors committed by the government that came before Fujimori." "Garcia should come back," said Mario Santos, 46, a coffee exporter who lost his Education Ministry job during layoffs under Fujimori's first administration. "For all of the accusations made against Garcia, the corruption in Fujimori's government was 20 times worse." Some 6 million of Peru's nearly 15 million voters were too young to vote when Garcia left power, and many older Peruvians are worried they will be seduced by Garcia's eloquence. "Alan Garcia is a snake charmer," political scientist Fernando Rospigliosi said. "One has to look not at his words, what he says, what he promises, but at what he did. What he did was form a corrupt and incompetent government and make a disaster of the country. Garcia cannot change those facts."
[CTRL] Taxpayers Subsidize Attacks on Ashcroft
-Caveat Lector- Taxpayers Subsidize Attacks on Ashcroft CNSNews.com Tuesday, Jan. 16, 2001 Left-wing and liberal organizations, many of which have coalesced to oppose the nomination of John Ashcroft as U.S. attorney general, have received nearly $150 million in taxpayer money to finance their operations since 1996, according to a report by a Washington think tank. Among the organizations benefiting from taxpayer largess are National Organization for Women, Planned Parenthood and Sierra Club, along with labor powerhouses such as National Education Association and American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. Data from the Federal Assistance Award Data System and Internal Revenue Service records, studied by the Capital Research Center, show that the amount of taxpayer funding for these groups could exceed $150 million over four years because funding data for some groups is missing for certain years. The Capital Research Center is a think tank that specializes in studying philanthropy and "non-profit organizations, with a special focus on reviving the American traditions of charity, philanthropy, and voluntarism," according to the group's Web site. NOW, Planned Parenthood, Sierra Club and other groups have vowed to fight Ashcroft's nomination as attorney general, and it's not certain the degree to which their anti-Ashcroft efforts are being paid for with taxpayer money. According to the CRC report, the pro-abortion group Planned Parenthood received more than $27.2 million in federal tax money in 1999, and NOW Legal Defense and Education Fund received $623,970 in federal funds that year. Copyright CNSNews.com Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics: Bush Administration A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: [NA] Big Media Clue: Were Going to War
-Original Message- From: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:30 AM Subject: [NA] Big Media Clue: Were Going to War "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." attributed to Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin January 16, 2001 NA (Network America) e-wire Big Media Clue: Were Going to War Here is real time news analysis of a Big Media Clue that you will see George W. Bush ordering America into war in the near future. It may be as late as mid 2002 --- but Im betting it will be later this year, maybe in a few months. Tonight at 10 PM CNN ran a program entitled Unfinished War: A Decade Since Desert Storm. Do you get it? Unfinished War. U-N-F-I-N-I-S-H-E-D. Get it. Somebody has to finish it. (At the same hour, Paula Zahn pushed the exact same line on FOX cable news networks The Edge program.) This is one reason why the Ruling Elite MUST have computerized votefraud as a stop gap to keep a Pat Buchanan out of the oval office. Buchanan would never go for the stampede to war that is about to happen. Incidentally, if youre thinking that the 5 Big TV networks didnt need computerized votefraud to keep Buchanan down in 2000, youre right. By election day he was had been so censored by the coordinated Big Media that many Buchanan supporters were switching to Bush. BUT the Ruling Elite DID need computerized votefraud to make their polls come true for a photo finish between Bush and Gore. Without the assurance that they could manipulate the 100% computerized vote in Florida to a hairline margin of victory, they couldnt have published all those neck and neck polls which stampeded millions of potential Buchanan or Phillips supporters into the Bush camp by election day. As we said in earlier e-wires, much more important than Bush or Gore was killing the momentum of any independent 3rd Party movement. The hour started off presenting Saddam Hussein as the consummate evil leader. Hey, hes pretty doggone evil! But guess who helped put him in power 25 years ago? Our own C.I.A. And guess who gave Saddam the wink to go into Kuwait in 1991, and made sure he was well armed in order to do so? Why, it was President George Bush the Elder. Major papers in Europe, especially in Great Britain, carried devastating articles proving that the Bush administration had sold Saddam massive weaponry leading up to the war. One publication which catalogued this documentation was Criminal Politics magazine, which can be found at criminalpolitics.com. Saddam has been a useful bogeyman to keep in power so that we can keep going back into the middle east for more war. Why do we, that is, the Ruling Elite want to be able to go into the Middle East for war regularly? That full answer must be left for another e-wire. Many might remember that the evil Madeleine Albright said when informed that probably 500,000 Iraqi children would die due to the POST-WAR US sanctions. Albright fiendishly hissed: Thats a price Im willing to pay. (My, my, Mrs. Albright, its looks like were beginning to stumble towards numbers of holocaust proportions here you consummate hypocrite.) Incidentally, the CNN special reported that 500,000 Iraqi children had already died due to US sanctions restricting medicines and imports that could have rebuilt such things as the infrastructure to deliver clean water. CNN reported also that no authority seriously disputes this number of 500,000 dead Iraqi children since the END of Desert Storm due to US sanctions. As far as I know, only Pat Buchanan spoke out about this un-American outrage during the campaign. If Nader did, I didnt hear it. Incidentally, it is possible that the next war against the Iraqi people (using Saddam as the excuse) will be sparked by a limited germ-warfare attack in the USA, which would be almost sure to galvanize US support for a strike. If this should happen, listen up: Gary North has recently published an important interview with an expert on colloidal silver. Colloidal silver is available at health food stores, and you can also buy little machines that make colloidal silver for about $200. Some say that colloidal silver will be effective against even an anthrax attack. I recommend you consider getting such an informational tape and decide for yourself. Colloidal silver is said to work by latching on to the receptors of invading organisms in our bodies, making it impossible for those hostile organisms to hook onto our good cells. I pass this along for your responsible investigation. Do not make any final conclusions based on this short attempt at a summary. On another front: the demonstrations against the Sharon-Netanyahu warmonger machine in Israel have reached all time highs in the last two years. Leading Jewish intellectuals such as MIT professor Naom Chomsky are openly opposing the direction of the policies represented by Sharon-Netanyahu. I am
[CTRL] Automobiles more deadly than guns.... Teddy knows that......
-Caveat Lector- Feinstein - the Holy Woman - she cashed in on Ryan being murdered - remember Jonestown? And Teddy we forgive him so much - but how can he be so stupid - and then I remember, he got caught cheating on examination in college was it - he hired a smart guy to take his test and got caught? So can still overloot Teddy's rampage - but you know I still remember when he called Jean Dixon's boos and sent letter advising Hearst and King features to keep his name and his family's name out of her column.. Had JFK had some secret service awake on the job, he would still most likely be here today.but they too were too busy drinking in the bars late at night and came to work with hangovers.the guard was down. Note the security Clinton and Gore had.and little Madeline it is unsafe for her to go out in street .. some big bad Arab might get her. (with Uzi made in Israel?) So we see Black Panthers loosed upon George Bush and his wifeand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson attempting to loose savages once again on white America. So guess Teddy has finally taken a stand out of fear..afraid of losing the black vote. We have to keep white american working overtime to support these albatross on our backs in and out of government. As Rap Brown said "Getta Gun"..white male American has taken his advice, to keep your powder dry - the march to Mt. Nebo has begun. We need an Attorney General with some guts and who will speak what others fear to say. Saba Start here www. .com Ashcroft assailed for gun views Sen. Ted Kennedy lashes out at John Ashcroft Wednesday. Round 1 of the Ashcroft hearings was civil, but there were some heated moments. NBC's Lisa Myers reports. MSNBCWASHINGTON, Jan. 17 Attorney General-designee John Ashcroft faced a barrage of criticism Wednesday at his confirmation hearing for his conservative views. The harshest attack was by Sen. Ted Kennedy, who said Ashcroft "owes an apology" to the nation for his opposition to gun control. Click the image to watch the second day of the Ashcroft hearing live on MSNBC.com KENNEDY, D-MASS., described his former Senate colleague as "far out of the mainstream," especially in his opposition to gun controls and for having encouraged Americans to bear arms to protect themselves against a "tyrannical" government. "I think this nominee owes an apology to the people of the United States for that insinuation," Kennedy shouted before the Senate Judiciary Committee, "talking about our government now being a source of tyrannical oppression." A grim-faced Ashcroft sat silently through the tongue lashing and did not respond afterward. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., pressed Ashcroft on his anti-abortion views, asking him why he believes there would be no need to exempt rape victims from a ban on abortion. Ashcroft did not directly answer and instead said he had "sought in a number of ways throughout the years to reduce and curtail the abortion of unborn children" and had voted several times for broad exemptions. Asked if he would try to undermine the 1973 Roe vs. Wade decision legalizing abortion, Ashcroft said the Supreme Court has clearly demonstrated its unwillingness to revisit the case. He added that asking the solicitor general that would rank under him to petition the Supreme Court for a different ruling on abortion would undermine the Justice Department's standing before the court. Advertisement George W. BushismsA Charge to Keep, by George W. BushShrub: The Short but Happy Political Life of George W. Bush Feinstein also questioned Ashcroft on why he opposed her efforts to make several gun crimes subject to racketeering laws, giving authorities the power to seize the assets of drug and violent gangs. "I don't believe the Second Amendment to be one that forbids any regulation of guns," Ashcroft said. He said he opposed Feinstein's measure after the American Civil Liberties Union and others cited government abuses of the racketeering laws to seize defendants' property. Earlier, Ashcroft was chastised about his comment while running for president in 1998 that "there are two things you find in the middle of the road: a moderate and a dead skunk." Ashcroft said the statement was meant to be a humorous way to emphasize his conservatism. Ashcroft said that, as attorney general, he would be willing to compromise with political foes. He recalled that when he led the National Association of State Attorneys General, "I understood I had to sacrifice some of my advocacy roles." Printable version Source: CQ Researcher; John Garraty: The American Nation; Encyclopedia Britannica. 'LIKELY TO BE CONFIRMED' While they expressed alarm about Ashcroft's past rhetoric, Democrats conceded they expect him to win Senate approval. "You are likely to be confirmed, as we all know," Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis., said as the Senate Judiciary Committee held
Re: [CTRL] Fw: WARNING: New date rape drug used against men...
-Caveat Lector- All girls have to do is buy a "BEER" or two for almost any guy and then simply ask the guy home for no-strings-attached sex. Men are rendered literally helpless against such tactics. Sure are, but the beer would have to be a good one. I may be easy but I ain't cheap. Jayson I agree. Warm beer just wont work on me (unless it is English Ale). flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Position Paper of Forfeiture Endangers American Rights Foundation
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fear.org/menuidx2.html [DRAFT #BG-12-1-98] Note: This position paper has been partially updated from the original 1992 version, but the updating is not yet complete. Your suggested corrections, questions and comments should be directed to Brenda Grantland by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or by snail mail to Brenda Grantland, 20 Sunnyside, Suite A-204, Mill Valley, CA 94941. Or call 415-380-9108, or fax to 415-331-3696. Position Paper of Forfeiture Endangers American Rights Foundation FEDERAL ASSET FORFEITURE LAWS NEED TO BE AMENDED TO RESTORE DUE PROCESS AND PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS IN THE FORFEITURE PROCESS F.E.A.R.'s Proposal For Reform Forfeiture Endangers American Rights Foundation P.O. Box 15421 Washington, D.C. 20003 202-546-4381 Introduction Police and prosecutors describe civil asset forfeiture as "The Greatest Single Weapon In The War Against Drugs." They proclaim to the legislatures that "it hits drug dealers where it hurts -- in the pocketbooks," and that it "takes the profits out of crime, and gives them to the police." In truth, civil forfeiture laws allow police to confiscate private property without having to pay for it, and without even having to arrest anyone, much less prove the property owner guilty of any crime. Under current federal law and the law of most states, civil asset forfeiture allows the police to keep what they seize and forfeit. Not only do they get to keep it, but for the most part, they don't have to account for it . And even if they account for it, generally no one looks into where they got it, or what they did with it. The Evolution of Abusive Forfeiture Laws Until 1984, civil asset forfeiture was so rare that few Americans had ever heard of it. Even now most Americans don't know what it means, even when it has become so widespread as to generate half a billion dollars a year in revenue for the Department of Justice alone -- close to a billion a year between all the federal agencies. Since Colonial times, forfeitures were disfavored in America. The forfeiture practices of England against the colonies were one of the reasons for the Revolutionary War. Forfeitures for customs violations have always been allowed. Undeclared, counterfeit, or contraband goods coming across the U.S. have always been subject to confiscation without compensation to the property owner. U.S. ci tizens do not possess constitutional rights outside U.S. borders, and have no right to bring anything into the country. But the situation is very different when these same laws are applied to activities occurring inside t he U.S. - where constitutional guarantees are supposed to apply. The "Orwellian Amendments" In 1984, Congress catapulted asset forfeiture into the political landscape, with the passage of the Omnibus Crime Bill, which drastically changed the federal forfeiture laws. The bill vastly expanded the forfeiture laws a pplicable to drug offenses. It mimicked the Customs laws by making the process "in rem", which means against the property itself instead of against its' owner. It used the "in rem" label as an exception to basic constitut ional principles as it took away any semblence of due process for the hapless forfeiture victim. Since 1984, the forfeiture laws have been drastically expanded for use inside U.S. borders, for any purpose that law enforcement could come up with -- as the "War Against Drugs," recently renamed the "War Against Crime" - - overtook America. Now, according to Justice Department Asset Forfeiture Chief, Cary Copeland, there are over 200 federal forfeiture statutes, allowing confiscation of private property without compensation for federal "o ffenses" ranging from drug crimes and bank or mail fraud to: making a false statement on a bank loan application, killing an endangered species of rat on your own land, collecting feathers of migratory birds such as sea g ulls, or failing to report to the IRS the purchase of over $3000 in money orders within 24 hours or a cash sale involving over $10,000. In the effort to fight the bogeyman, "Drugs" or "Crime," the police said they needed to obtain powers not permitted by the Constitution. In exchange the police promised they would take the incentive out of crime -- or "hi t the drug dealer where it hurts, in the pocketbooks" -- their reasoning went. The police would take the profits criminals made off crime, funnel them back into law enforcement efforts, and soon would conquer "Crime." The theory sounded good on paper and in television sound bites. But "Crime" is an inseperable part of human civilization; although it can be deterred, and should be punished, it is not eradicable. What was not considered in the 1984 Omnibus Crime Bill's radical restructuring of federal law enforcement priorities and power, was the fact that shifting the lure of assets from criminals to the police would tend to corr upt the police -- and that it would shift law enforcement priorities away
[CTRL] Colombia effort raises fears of another Vietnam
-Caveat Lector- SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS Monday, 15 January 2001 Colombia effort raises fears of another Vietnam By Eric Rosenberg WASHINGTON - With critics of growing U.S. military involvement in Colombia warning that another Vietnam may be just around the corner, U.S. Army Special Forces are preparing Colombian military units to launch a sweeping offensive, aimed at eradicating coca and poppy fields and destroying the jungle laboratories that turn the crops into cocaine and heroin. The plan calls for three battalions of Colombian commandos - using U.S.-supplied helicopters, weapons and intelligence - to crush that nation's drug trade over a five-year period. Critics, citing the gradual U.S. escalation of the Vietnam War, warn that these steps could lead to deep American involvement in a bloody civil war in Colombia. U.S. Army advisers have trained two of the battalions, and a third will be ready for deployment in April. The arrival this month of combat helicopters - first of a fleet of 33 H-1N Hueys and then 16 advanced Blackhawk helicopters beginning in July - will presage the kickoff of the offensive, U.S. officials say. Congressional skittishness over U.S. troops being drawn into a battle with heavily armed narco-guerillas is one reason that Defense Secretary William Cohen has ordered the U.S. forces training Colombian troops in the Amazon jungle to stay clear from combat. The Americans are there only to train, not to participate in what is known as Plan Colombia. Those concerns are typified by Sen. Paul Wellstone, D-Minn., who argues the United States could get sucked into a Vietnam-style entanglement. "It would be a tragic mistake for us to get involved in this civil war," he said. Still, U.S. and Colombian officials are heralding Plan Colombia as a key step toward eliminating the source of much of the drugs that enter the United States and the economic means by which a guerrilla insurgency there has been funded. The overall goal of Plan Columbia is to hold coca production steady by the end of 2001 and to cut it in half over five years. The effort is part of a $7.5 billion international aid program conceived in 1999 by both governments. In addition to using Colombian army troops to close down drug laboratories, the project includes funding to wean impoverished farmers and peasants from planting the profitable drug crops. Of the total aid package, Colombia hopes that $3.5 billion will come from countries with a strong interest in shutting down the drug trade there. But so far only the United States has kicked in a major sum: $1.3 billion authorized by Congress last summer, aimed mainly at buying military equipment and training Colombians. Plan Colombia, with its direct U.S. training, represents a major escalation in the U.S.-Colombia military relationship. For more than 40 years, the United States and Colombia have had some military-to-military contacts, with a steady increase beginning in the late 1980s in an effort to curtail drug cartels. The Pentagon, which has had ground-based radars in Colombia since the early 1990s, has been sharing intelligence with Colombian counterparts for several years. And the United States already has funded Colombian interdiction efforts in an unsuccessful attempt to curtail the drug supply. While the U.S. military and law enforcement have worked alongside other South American countries - notably Peru and Bolivia - to curtail their drug fields and illicit drug supplies, Colombia is in an entirely different league. Colombia is the world's leading cultivator of coca and the source of most of the cocaine and much of the heroin entering the United States. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration says net coca cultivation in Colombia has more than doubled, from 120,000 acres in 1995 to 294,000 acres in 1999. Colombia, about the size of Texas, New Mexico and Arkansas combined, has the distinction of producing about 70 percent of the world's cocaine base. But eliminating the drug supply in Colombia is compounded by the desperate predicament in South America's second-largest country. Colombia is in virtual chaos: It is wracked by the worst recession there in decades, with the central government in Bogot facing armed insurrection from all directions and with rebels taking an increasing role in the production and distribution of drugs. U.S. officials fear that left unchecked, Colombia will sink into "narco-state" status - a condition in which the nation's rebels, powered by drug revenues, will overwhelm the democratically elected government and its institutions. Colombia has been wracked by civil war for more than 36 years, and most all warring parties, including the military, have been accused of human-rights abuses. As much as 40 percent of Colombia is controlled by 20,000 left-wing insurgents known as the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, the largest rebel army in the Americas. As an indication of the FARC's growing drug
Re: [CTRL] England still owns America?
-Caveat Lector- John Cone wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- Mike Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "THE WORLD IS RULED FROM THE " CITY OF LONDON " INCLUDING: THE ENTITY KNOWN AS THE VIRGINIA COMPANY RENAMED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CORPORATION AND BODY POLITIC IN 1781 AT THE CAPITULATION OF GENERAL CORNWALLIS." ___ Nakano Comments: Shortly after Bill Clinton was elected President for the first time, British Prime Minister Tony Blair made a state visit to the White House. When the two national leaders held a joint news conference in the White House, two speaker's podiums were at the front of the room with a red carpet running to each. The U.S. Flag was beside one podium. The British Flag was beside the other. Tony Blair spoke from the podium with the U.S. Flag while Clinton spoke from the podium with the British flag. I have often wondered in this was symbolic of something, or if it meant nothing at all. Nakano Go here and do a little reading. You may find something of interest. http://a-albionic.com/ -- Mark McHugh A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [CCNN] Even The Liberal Washington Post Call's Clinton a Do-Nothing President
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Howard Rothenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa.republica n,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-lim Date: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:46 PM Subject: [CCNN] Even The Liberal Washington Post Call's Clinton a Do-Nothing President President Do-Nothing By Robert J. Samuelson Wednesday, January 3, 2001; Page A17 http://washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A11338-2001Jan2?language=printer The Clinton paradox is this: Rarely has a president so dominated the public stage and so little affected the public agenda. His central failure lay not in what he did -- which wasn't much -- but in what he deliberately avoided. As the first baby boomer president, he had a historic opportunity to prepare for his own generation's retirement. The task was to redraw the political compact between workers and retirees by modernizing Social Security and Medicare. Clinton didn't try, and worse, he consistently obstructed others in both parties who did. A lot happens in eight years. Clinton can be fairly judged only on what he changed -- or might have. Does anyone honestly believe he caused the drop in crime? As for the economic boom, it was largely self-propelled. Clinton's main contribution was to stand clear. The story is the same for the surprising budget surpluses. Two events beyond Clinton's making (or Congress's proved decisive: the end of the Cold War, which justified deep defense cuts; and the boom, which produced an unexpected tax windfall. Here are some instructive numbers. In fiscal 2000, the federal budget surplus was $237 billion. Meanwhile, defense spending dropped from 5 percent to 3 percent of gross domestic product (national income) from 1992 to 2000. At present income levels, that represents about a $200 billion annual saving. The Congressional Budget Office has similarly put the surprise tax windfall at about 2 percent of GDP, another $200 billion. Elsewhere, Clinton mostly tinkered with government. He expanded tax relief for the working poor by increasing the earned income tax credit. This was good. But he also effectively destroyed the Tax Reform Act of 1986, and that was bad. (The 1986 law simplified taxes by lowering rates and reducing special breaks. Clinton raised rates and increased tax breaks -- now called "targeted tax cuts." Taxes became more complex and capricious.) Some trumpeted Clinton achievements depended on Republican congressional support -- the North American Free Trade Agreement with Mexico, welfare "reform" and the agreement to admit China to the World Trade Organization. History will judge these and other presidential efforts, including Clinton's attempt to mediate peace in the Mideast. Presidential activism isn't an automatic virtue. Clinton's modest record might, in some circumstances, amount to wise self-restraint. But his resolute refusal to deal intelligently with Social Security and Medicare constitutes an unpardonable lapse. As a nation, we rarely have a chance to defuse major future problems. The impending retirement of the baby boom generation provided just such an opportunity. We already know much of what we need to know: that the over-65 population will soon balloon; that Social Security and Medicare already represent 40 percent of non-interest federal spending; and that this spending must, with present benefits, rise dramatically. We also know that Social Security and Medicare have evolved well beyond their original purpose as a safety net for the needy elderly. They have become a public subsidy for retirement, although many retirees are increasingly healthy and wealthy. Finally, we know that the retirement subsidies come mostly from the taxes of workers who consist heavily of retirees' children and grandchildren. Questions -- economic, social and moral -- arise. Might high retirement benefits harm the economy or crowd out other important government spending? If not all promised benefits are affordable, would it be fair -- sometime in the future -- to cut them abruptly? If benefits are affordable, is it morally defensible for older and wealthier retirees to be so heavily subsidized by younger and often poorer workers? The obvious need was to temper the predictable pressures: to raise eligibility ages slowly to reflect longer life expectancy; to trim (but not eliminate) benefits for higher-income retirees; to enact Medicare cost-sharing measures that encourage the prudent use of health care. The broader need was to make it safe politically to discuss these issues without being portrayed as an ogre who loathed grandparents. The circumstances for this conversion could not have been more favorable, especially in Clinton's second term. The country was enjoying an economic boom. The president was articulate and understood the issues. As a Democrat, his loyalty to Social Security and Medicare -- created by Democratic presidents and Congresses -- was unassailable. He
[CTRL] Same old shit, different bottle. Foreign policy doesn't change.
-Caveat Lector- DemocRAT or Republican. Liberal or Conservative. It's all phony. The REAL dichotomy is International Corporate Capitalism and EVERYTHING ELSE. Nurev = Sources: Reuters | AP | AP U.S. | ABCNEWS.com Wednesday January 17 12:06 PM ET Powell Outlines Cautious New Foreign Policy By Jonathan Wright WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Secretary of State-designate Colin Powell laid out a cautious new foreign policy for the United States on Wednesday, based on engagement with the world in line with U.S. ``national interests.'' ``There is no inclination whatsoever to have our nation withdraw from the world into a fortress of protectionism or an island of isolation,'' Powell told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee at a hearing on his appointment. ``We must be involved according to our national interests and not in some haphazard way that seems more dictated by the crisis of the day than by serious, thoughtful foreign policy,'' added Powell, who is expected to take office with President-elect George W. Bush on Saturday. The committee and later the full Senate are expected to give Powell, a former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, an easy passage toward confirmation. Sen. Joseph Biden, a Delaware Democrat and the committee chairman, said: ``Without question Gen. Powell's experience ... makes him well qualified to be secretary of state, and I have no doubt, general, that you will be confirmed.'' In a 24-page speech prepared for the hearing, Powell endorsed many of the foreign policy initiatives of the outgoing Clinton administration but promised reviews of policy specifically on North Korea, national missile defense, sanctions against Iraq and U.S. forces in the Balkans. Speaking by coincidence on the 10th anniversary of the start of the Gulf War against Iraq, in which the general played a leading part, he noted that President-elect Bush wants to ''re-energize the sanctions regime'' against the government of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. Review Of Balkan Deployments ``We need to be vigilant, ready to respond to provocations, and utterly steadfast in our policy toward Saddam Hussein, and we need to be supportive of opposition efforts,'' he added. Several Bush advisers want the new administration to increase its support for the opposition Iraqi National Congress, to which the Clinton administration gave small amounts of money but no military assistance. On the Balkans, the policy area on which the Bush team have most alarmed Washington's European allies, Powell stepped back from suggestions that Bush would withdraw U.S. forces from Kosovo and Bosnia unilaterally. ``President-elect Bush has promised to look closely at our commitments in the Balkans, with the hope of reducing our troop levels there over time and in consultation with our allies. This will be part of a much more comprehensive review of all of our commitments,'' he said. Biden said he favored the Balkan deployment. ``It would be a serious mistake to withdraw our forces from the Balkans. We should stay the course,'' he said. The general, whose policy hallmark has been his opposition to deploying U.S. forces on too many marginal peacekeeping missions, said the U.S. military was unique in its mobility and ability to apply decisive force wherever it wants. ``Tying down such forces is often imprudent. We need to consider these points whenever we feel the need to use our armed forces for peace operations that promise long or undetermined duration,'' he added. China A Competitor Powell broke little new ground on either Russia or China -- the two big powers which most preoccupy the United States. He described China as ``a competitor and a potential regional rival, but also a trading partner''. ``But China is not an enemy and our challenge is to keep it that way,'' he added. He reiterated Washington's longstanding commitment to the ''one China'' principle, opposed reunification of China and Taiwan by force and promised to provide for Taiwan's defense needs, as Washington has done for many years. On Russia, he said that the relationship could be strong and successful only if Russia pursues domestic reform, establishing the rule of law, rooting out corruption and stopping the proliferation of missile technology. But the Bush administration considers the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) treaty with Russia to be ``no longer relevant to our new strategic framework'' and does not plan to ask the Senate to ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. The Senate turned the treaty down under Clinton. Powell had stern words for North Korean leader Kim Jong-il, calling him a dictator who fields far more troops than he needs to meet any conceivable threat. Powell's predecessor, outgoing Secretary of State Madeleine Albright met Kim in October as part of a gradual attempt to bring North Korea out of its isolation. ``We will review thoroughly our relationship with the North Koreans,
[CTRL] [Fwd: [Activist_List] U.S. Military and Corporate Recolonization of the Congo]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: [Activist_List] U.S. Military and Corporate Recolonization of the Congo Date: 17 Jan 2001 18:25:51 - From: "Eric Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Activist Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Activist Mailing List - http://activist.cjb.net --- ListBot Sponsor -- Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb -- http://www.covertaction.org/full_text_69_01.htm U.S. Military and Corporate Recolonization of the Congo by Ellen Ray The United States involvement in Congo since before independence from Belgium in June 1960 has been steady, sinister, and penetrating. Most notable was the CIAs role in the overthrow (September 1960) and later assassination (January 1961) of Congos first Prime Minister, the charismatic (and socialist) Patrice Lumumba. The full extent of U.S. machinations was not known for years,1 but the failure at the time of the United Nations to protect Lumumba was patent. And questions continue to linger over the mysterious plane crash in September 1961 that killed U.N. Secretary General Dag Hammarskjold as he was flying to the border town of Ndola to meet with Moise Tshombe, president of the breakaway Katanga Province. The plane fell from the sky, killing all aboard.2 Is it any wonder that in Congo today there is little trust of Washington or respect for the United Nations? Introduction In October 1996, the Alliance of Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Congo-Zaire (ADFL), commanded by and composed mainly of Tutsi military forces from Paul Kagames Rwanda Patriotic Army (RPA), along with Tutsi refugees from Zaire and some Congolese patriots,3 all under the titular leadership of Congolese exile Laurent Kabila, crossed into Zaire from Rwanda and Burundi. In May 1997, after only seven months of fighting, they had overthrown the 30-year dictatorship of Mobutu Sese Seko.4 While marching west across the vast expanse of the country, divisions of this army had wreaked terrible vengeance on the Rwandan Hutu exiles encamped since 1994 in eastern Zaire, where they had been driven from Rwanda by the RPA on the heels of the horrendous massacre of hundreds of thousands of Rwandan Tutsis, encouraged and supervised by extremists in the Hutu-dominated government. In Kinshasa, with Kabila named President, key cabinet posts and the new Congo army and security forces were immediately staffed at the highest levels by Rwandan Tutsis. By July 1998, Kabila realized that the Congolese people would not support the excesses of the Rwandan "foreigners" throughout their government. He also recognized the extent to which he had become a puppet of his Tutsi "allies," and after confirmed reports of atrocities by Tutsi military against Hutu exiles in the east, and later in the west of the country, had become too prevalent to ignore, and after he had uncovered an apparent Rwandan plot to assassinate him and stage a coup in Congo, Kabila ordered the Rwandans to leave. Less than a week later, on August 2, 1998, Ugandan and Rwandan regular troops invaded Congo with regrouped, well-trained rebel forces, and began the war to overthrow Kabila that goes on to this day, despite a shaky, much-violated, U.S.-supported cease-fire. Rwandans and Ugandans control most of the east of the country, and there has been a de facto partition, a gross violation of Congolese sovereignty. Yet Rwanda is a tiny, impoverished nation, and Uganda is not much larger or richer, while Congo is one of the largest, richest, and most populous nations in Africa, which at one time had its most powerful army. How did this happen? Could impoverished Rwanda and Uganda have orchestrated, armed, and financed such operations on their own? Is it a coincidence that Rwandan strongman Paul Kagame was trained in the United States?5 That the Rwandan army received, and continues to receive, training in the U.S.? That the Pentagon has had Special Forces military training missions in Rwanda and Uganda for more than five years? That vast segments of the Congolese infrastructure, particularly the mining companies,6 have been taken over by U.S.- and western-linked multinationals, working with the Rwandan and Ugandan rebels and governments? The U.S. Role The Mobutu era began with ardent U.S. support, financial and military. From 1965 to 1991, Zaire received more than $1.5 billion in U.S. economic and military aid.7 In return, U.S. multinationals increased their share of the ownership of Zaires fabulous mineral wealth.8 On the foreign policy front, Zaire was a bastion of anti-communism during the Cold War, in the center of a continent Washington saw as perilously close to Moscows influence. As the State Department put it, "Zaire has been a stabilizing force and a staunch supporter of U.S. and western policies"9
[CTRL] Lawsuit Could Reopen Watergate
-Caveat Lector- What Would Deep Throat Say? Lawsuit Could Reopen Watergate Associated Press A defamation suit went to trial Tuesday that could reopen the Watergate scandal and bring some of its major figures back into court. The lawsuit was brought by a former secretary for the Democratic National Committee. She is seeking $5.1 million from G. Gordon Liddy for claiming that the burglars who broke into DNC headquarters at the Watergate complex were looking for photographs that could link John Dean's future wife to a call-girl ring. http://news.findlaw.com/ap/o/1110/1-16-2001/20010116222024250.html Why Journalists' Confidential Sources Deserve More Legal Protection By FindLaw columnist Julie Hilden http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hilden/20001009.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Big Oil and the Bush League
Title: Big Oil and the Bush League http://hereliesalgore.com/ -Original Message-From: Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:48 AMSubject: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Big Oil and the Bush League Do you have anything on Gore's Occidental Petroleum connection and the release of reserves and the exploitation of the native population and rain forests in South America that started with his communist upbringing under his mentor Armand Hammer? Just hoping you might since you have so much on the subject of oil. ;) Amelia - Original Message - From: ThePiedPiper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:26 AM Subject: [CTRL] Big Oil and the Bush League--
Re: [CTRL] HUNDREDS SEE 'JESUS' ON MUSLIM'S HOUSE
-Caveat Lector- Bill Howard wrote: -Caveat Lector- Several years ago in a mexican resturant in down town L.A. , Elvis appeared to the faithful on a corn tortilla. Bill Holy shit! In a message dated 1/17/01 6:07:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey! I saw HIM too. All the way from here. HE had a beard and looked a lot like Jeffery Hunter right? The best one I read about was regarding a Mexican family who had immigrated to Texas, who saw an image of Jesus in a piece of toast that popped out of their toaster, and who immediately set up a shrine to the toast, visited by thousands of the faithful. I was one of those faithful. I walked all the way from Australia to kneel before the Holy Toast. The Holy Toast heeled my aching feet. It was a fucking miracle! I don't eat toast anymore. Too Catholic. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Chao has ties to Lippo Group
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21380 WEDNESDAY JANUARY 17 2001 CHANGING OF THE GUARD Chao has ties to Lippo Group Sits on board of insurer that co-owns subsidiary with Chinese government By Paul Sperry 2001 WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON -- A review of financial assets held over the past six years by Elaine L. Chao and her husband, Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell, reveals that the Labor secretary-designate serves as director of an insurance company that jointly owns a Lippo Group subsidiary with the Chinese government. Indonesia-based Lippo is controlled by the Riady family and is at the center of the Chinagate fund-raising scandal. Lippo chief executive James T. Riady has agreed to plead guilty to a felony charge of defrauding the U.S. government. Prosecutors say he funneled foreign donations to the campaigns of Bill Clinton and other politicians. Lippo's man in the U.S., John Huang, was convicted of campaign fraud in 1999. Senate financial-disclosure records show that, over the past four years, Chao has held a seat on the board of Protective Life Corp., which owns 50 percent of CRC Protective Life Insurance. Lippo co- owns the rest of the Hong Kong-based unit with China Resources Holdings Co., an intelligence-gathering front company for China's People's Liberation Army. Chao owns more than 7,000 shares of Birmingham, Ala.-based Protective Life Corp., public securities records show. The $1.4 billion-in-sales insurer sought out the joint venture in 1994, with the goal of underwriting policies in southern China. To "solidify" the deal, a company director, William B. Blount, wrote Vice President Al Gore a letter seeking the administration's support. The company also lobbied Commerce Department officials for their support. Gore, in turn, sent a letter to Riady, congratulating him on the partnership. And Huang, then a Commerce official with a glaring conflict, nonetheless helped put the venture on the list of federally backed projects. Meanwhile, Protective Life gave $50,000 to the Democratic National Committee. The Chinese government subsequently took a stake in the venture. Critics of Chao's nomination worry that her ties to Chinese business interests present a conflict. Her China-born father, James S.C. Chao, has a cozy relationship with Beijing's Communist Party leader, and owns a shipping company that does business with the Chinese government. "I worry about Elaine Chao's business relationship with communist China," Chinese dissident Hongda "Harry" Wu told WorldNetDaily. As a Cabinet member, Chao would have top-level clearance to U.S. trade and military secrets. Sequestered from the press until after her confirmation hearings, she was not available for comment. The Senate Health, Education and Labor Committee has not yet set a date for hearings. GOP Sen. James Jeffords and Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy head the panel. Chao's Lippo ties don't end there. Her husband, McConnell, has received steady campaign contributions during his years in the Senate from Lippo partner American International Group Inc., and its chairman, Maurice "Hank" Greenberg. Last year, the New York-based insurer bought 5 percent of Lippo Life and 70 percent of its unit, PT Asuransi Jiwa Lippo Utama, for about $200 million. AIG also has business ventures in China, recently opening its fourth office on the mainland. In fact, $40 billion-in-sales AIG was the first foreign company allowed to sell insurance in China. Besides thousands in donations, McConnell also got $2,000 from AIG for a 1995 speech he gave in New York, his financial records show, though he says he gave it to charity. McConnell hasn't been shy about supporting AIG. He rushed to its side in 1987, for example, to spare it from having to pay claims on the policy it underwrote on the U.S. Embassy in Moscow. The bugged building had to be rebuilt. And he is China's biggest Republican booster in the Senate, fighting to liberalize trade with Beijing, which is one of Greenberg's hobby horses. Greenberg, former chairman of the U.S.-China Business Council, has lobbied hard -- and successfully -- to sever the link between China's human-rights and missile-proliferation records and its most- favored-nation trade status. (He was, incidentally, one of President Clinton's candidates in 1995 to be CIA director.) AIG's international advisory board is headed by Henry A. Kissinger, the leading pro-China lobbyist in Washington. Greenberg, a Heritage Foundation donor, was so forceful in his efforts to secure permanent trade benefits for China that he threatened to cut off funding to the conservative think tank if it didn't tone down its concerns about China's growing military threat. Chao, also an outspoken China trade booster, is Heritage's top Asian studies adviser and a distinguished fellow. The Huang connection Chao and former Lippo executive Huang are no strangers. In 1993, when Chao was taking over as United Way
Re: [CTRL] Mastadon (was: Global warming claims 'based on falsedata'??)
-Caveat Lector- Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frozen Mastodons with undigested food in their stomachs are really intriguing though. Speaking of which, whatever became of the mastadon they showed on a documentary a few months ago, which was excavated intact in one huge block of ice, and shown being airlifted by helicopter out of the site? Weren't they supposed to bring it somewhere to study it? At the time, there was much speculation regarding whether there might be enough viable DNA to attempt cloning it... June It disintegrated en-route due to global warming. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Starr Deputy Thinks Clinton's Indictment Is 'Going to Happen'
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Tuesday, Jan. 16, 2001 10:28 a.m. EST Starr Deputy Thinks Clinton's Indictment Is 'Going to Happen' Solomon Wisenberg, a former deputy independent counsel under Kenneth Starr, predicted Monday night that President Clinton will be indicted by Starr's successor Robert Ray shortly after he leaves office. "I think that it's going to happen," Wisenberg told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, who was gauging the likelihood of the first indictment of a U.S. president in history. "I think the odds are pretty good," added the one-time Starr confidante. "Certainly [Ray's] office has been sending signals that at a minimum it is going to be presented to the grand jury. And I think that it's going to happen." Wisenberg is the first Starr insider to go public with an on-the-record prediction that Clinton will be prosecuted. And as one of the former independent counsel's key investigators, Wisenberg knows a thing or two about the mindset of the team that will decide the future of the soon-to-be ex-president. Starr asked Wisenberg to become his deputy at the outset of his Lewinsky probe. But the top lawyer didn't accept till March 1998. From there, Wisenberg oversaw the operation of Starr's grand jury, presiding over the testimony of such key witnesses as Linda Tripp, Monica Lewinsky and Lewinsky's mother Marcia Lewis. In fact, it was Wisenberg who prompted the most famous quote of entire Sexgate imbroglio. While grilling Clinton before the grand jury in August 1998, the Starr deputy pressed him on whether his denials of sex with Lewinsky were false. "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is," Clinton told Wisenberg. The ex-prosecutor told Fox News that he didn't think the fact that Ray's grand jury was drawn from predominantly black, Democratic Washington, D.C., made Clinton's prosecution any less likely. "I think it's something of a racist assumption there that D.C. juries and grand juries will ignore evidence because of their political persuasion," he said. If anything, Clinton's conduct since his impeachment has made his indictment even more likely, Starr's deputy maintained. "I do think that if the president had shown an ounce of remorse since his acquittal in the impeachment proceeding, that might have affected how Bob Ray thinks," said Wisenberg. "But he's done nothing whatsoever to acknowledge his obstruction of the judicial process." *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is U.S. hiding Arafat murders?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21365 WEDNESDAY JANUARY 17 2001 TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND Is U.S. hiding Arafat murders? Ex-NSA op blows whistle in 73 killings of American diplomats in Sudan embassy By Joseph Farah 2001 WorldNetDaily.com On Feb. 28, 1973, James J. Welsh, the National Security Agency's Palestinian analyst, was summoned by a colleague about a communication intercepted from Yasser Arafat involving an imminent Black September operation in Khartoum, Sudan. Within minutes, Welsh recalls, the director of the NSA was notified and the decision was made to send a rare "FLASH" message -- the highest priority -- to the U.S. Embassy in Khartoum via the State Department. But the message didn't reach the embassy in time. Somewhere between the NSA and the State Department, someone decided the warning was too vague. The alert was downgraded in urgency. The next day, eight members of Black September, part of Arafat's Fatah organization, stormed the Saudi embassy in Khartoum, took U.S. Ambassador Cleo Noel, diplomat Charge d'Affaires George Curtis Moore and others hostage. A day later, on March 2, 1973, Noel, Moore and Belgian Guy Eid were machine-gunned to death -- all, Welsh charges, on the direct orders of Arafat. Welsh, who left the Navy and NSA in 1974, speaking publicly for the first time to WorldNetDaily, accuses the U.S. government of a 28-year-old cover-up of Arafat's role in the planning and execution of the attack. "Over the years I have kept my silence about what I know about this tragic episode," Welsh told WorldNetDaily. "But recently I began to wonder how recent administrations could overlook something as terrible as this in our dealings with Yasser Arafat." When President Clinton invited Arafat to the White House for direct negotiations on the Middle East, Welsh says, that was the last straw. He has been on a personal one-man mission to uncover the tape recordings and transcripts of those intercepts between Arafat and Fatah leader Salah Khalaf, also known as Abu-Iyad, in Beirut and Khalil al-Wazir in Khartoum. So far, Welsh has not found many allies among members of the U.S. Congress -- in either party. "No one wants to touch this thing," Welsh says. "It's a hot potato. No one wants to be responsible for derailing the Mideast peace process." But Welsh thinks the American people, who are footing much of the bill for Arafat's current activities, have a right to know about his personal responsibility for the murder of two Americans. And he is the first American involved directly in the affair to charge publicly what has long been rumored -- that Arafat ordered the embassy takeover and the murders of the American diplomats. "I have decided that my oaths of secrecy must give way to my sense of right and wrong," he told WorldNetDaily. "I was particularly outraged as I had spent four years following these individuals and, at the moment of our g reatest intelligence coup against them, an uninformed GS level had pooh-poohed our work and cost the lives of two U.S. diplomats," he recalls. Welsh immediately began demanding answers about the breakdown in communication that led to the tragedy. "After some effort, I was told that the choice was mine: Shut up or lose my clearance and get ready for Fleet Oiler duty within 48 hours," he said. "I gave in." Welsh believes the initial cover-up of the communications breakdown and the role of Arafat was launched to prevent embarrassment to the State Department and White House. President Nixon, he points out, was in the death th roes of the Watergate scandal at the time. The last thing he needed, Welsh speculates, was an international scandal to deal with on the front page of the Washington Post. Later, after Nixon was gone, Welsh believes the whole matter of the Arafat tapes was kept quiet to protect the future viability of signals intelligence intercepts of this kind. And, finally, he says, the cover-up persists to foster Arafat's role as a "peacemaker" and leader of the Palestinian cause. "Yet, there is no statute of limitations on murder," Welsh says. "Obviously the United States cannot go after Yasser Arafat and put him on trial. But the American people deserve to know the truth about a man and his assoc iates to whom we now give millions, if not billions of taxpayer dollars." In fact, in 1985 and 1986, Congress requested then-Attorney General Ed Meese to investigate Arafat's complicity in the murders of the diplomats. On Feb. 12, 1986, some 47 U.S. senators, including now-Vice President Al Gore, petitioned Meese "to assign the highest priority to completing this review, and to issue an indictment of Yasser Arafat if the evidence so war rants." However, the one critical piece of evidence needed to warrant an indictment -- the tape recordings -- was not produced by the NSA, the Central Intelligence Agency or the State Department. "These tapes do exist," claims Welsh. "I
[CTRL] Transcript shows scale of KGB penetration
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0101/15/world/world11.html Transcript shows scale of KGB penetration Moscow: A new day dawned over Cold War Italy. It was January 21, 1966, and Edward Heath, leader of Britain's opposition Conservative Party, was calling on President Giuseppe Saragat in the Quirinal, once summer palace to the popes, now the residence of the head of state of a NATO power. The two men were old acquaintances. Among topics discussed were Charles de Gaulle, the future of Germany and the Vietnam War. The meeting was part of the routine business of European diplomacy at the time. But a verbatim transcript of the two men's conversation was in Moscow within days. Its unearthing in the Communist Party archives 35 years later provides compelling evidence of the extent of Soviet penetration during the Cold War of the West, and of Italy in particular. A senior former KGB officer and an expert on Russia's archives suggested on Friday that the likely source was a bug in the presidential palace, a well placed agent or an Italian Communist. Armed with the conversation, translated into Russian, intelligence chiefs and policy-makers in Moscow would have gained a precious insight into the thinking of two senior European figures. Sir Edward has no recollection of that day in Rome but expressed amazement at the document's discovery in a Russian archive. "We never thought at the time there was a risk of this sort of thing happening," the former prime minister said. The document is not without touches of farce. In a handwritten note at the top of the first page, the then Mr Heath is misidentified twice, first as the Japanese foreign minister. The word "Japan" has then been crossed out and replaced by "Britain". Mr Saragat calls de Gaulle's obsession with the threat of Germany starting a new world war "an intellectual kink", while Mr Heath blames the French leader for helping to stir up talk of unification in the divided state. Even more sensitively, the Italian president criticises the Vatican for its peace initiatives aimed at stopping the Vietnam War and voices alarm at growing anti-American sentiment in Europe. It is no secret that the strength of the local Communist Party gave Moscow freedom of manoeuvre in Italy rivalled only by that in France and West Germany. The Telegraph, London
[CTRL] Depleted Uranium: The horrific legacy of Basra
Depleted Uranium: The horrific legacy of Basra http://www.sundayherald.com/news/newsi.hts?section=News+Focusstory_id=13698 Iraq: Children are born grotesquely deformed and cancer is rife, but the West will still not investigate. What has it got to hide? asks Ron McKay Publication Date: Jan 14 2001 FORTY-EIGHT hours after the Gulf war ended, an Iraqi Republican Guard tank division was making for its base outside Basra along a narrow causeway over Lake Hamar. It was one of five agreed exit routes for the defeated army to take in its retreat. The ground war had lasted just 100 hours and there had been 79 American deaths, eight of them among the 24th Division, commanded by General Barry McCaffrey, whose armour and ordnance was lying about three miles away from the causeway. Suddenly, and over-riding a warning from the division operations officer, McCaffrey ordered an assault on the column. Later he would claim that his troops had been fired on by the retreating Iraqis, which is hotly denied by the Republican Guard commander. Apache attack helicopters, Bradley fighting vehicles and artillery units pummelled the helpless column for hours. It was, as McCaffrey later commented, "one of the most astounding scenes of destruction I have ever participated in." More than 10 years later, the destruction can still be seen. What is left of the division pokes rustily from the sand over several square miles. It is one of the world's largest junkyards. And it could also be said to be the epicentre of the controversy over depleted uranium. DU shells and rockets had ripped into the column in the most prolonged use of this ordnance on any one spot in the history of their invention. Six months ago, when I visited the site of what has become known as the Battle of Rumaila, with a scientist carrying a Geiger counter, the needle threatened to burst out of its casing as he repeatedly ran it over sand and wreckage, gun barrels, tank parts and spent DU detritus. Which may, of course, prove nothing. Dr Jawad Khadim al-Ali is a British-trained doctor and a member of the Royal College of Physicians. He works in Basra's main hospital. He showed me his maps of cancer and leukaemia clusters which coincide with the most intensive use of DU weapons in the war. Again, connection could be coincidental. The doctor also showed me the book of horrors kept by the medical staff - photographs of the grotesque, mis-shapen, stillborn children born in the hospital. There are kids with no brains, some with one eye in the middle of the head, others with extra limbs. It is the most diverse collection of malformations and deformities I have ever seen - and, I suspect, any doctor anywhere outside of southern Iraq. According to Dr Jawad there has been a four-fold increase in cancers in the area where the use of uranium-tipped weapons was most severe. Two in a hundred children in Basra are now being born with birth defects. If could be, of course, as my old pal Doug Henderson has alluded, propaganda. When he was a defence minister he poured doubt on any increase in cancers and birth defects in southern Iraq. "The government has not seen any peer-reviewed epidemiological research data on this population to support these claims ," he said. There is none, of course . Because the World Health Organisation, invited by Iraq to start research into the cancers, was persuaded not to do so by the British and US. And a group of Royal Society scientists tasked by the British authorities to investigate the local effects of DU declined to visit Iraq. Dr Kamil Mahdi, of the Institute of Arab and Islamic Studies at the University of Exeter, attended a seminar last February at the Foreign Office where the then head of the Middle East section said that the ministry was going to cooperate with the Department for International Development and the WHO on research into the health effect of DU in southern Iraq. "When I probed Ron White of DFID he said that it would only support research into the health effects of the Iraqi regime's use of chemical weapons in Halabja in 1988," he says now. The Basra hospitals are full of young people suffering from horrendous tumours, most of them not even born when the Gulf war ended. Most are largely untreated because of the shortage of medicines, drips, anti-coagulants and basic life-saving equipment. British and US ministers are fond of quoting that there is no embargo on food or medicines, but the UN sanctions committee in New York continually delays essential supplies . The patients lie on sheetless beds because detergents are banned on the grounds that they can be put to dual use - a crude bomb manufactured from a box of Persil, presumably. One of those patients was Ali Mohammed, a soldier who escaped the initial carnage of Rumaila. His belly was distended from a massive tumour, and one testicle had been removed. Dr Jawad held up his hands. "There's nothing we can do. Maybe if
[CTRL] The Three Horsemen of the Environmental Apocalypse
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=10342 The Three Horsemen of the Environmental Apocalypse David Helvarg, The Nation January 16, 2001 President-elect Bush's naming of former Colorado Attorney General Gale Norton as Interior Secretary and recently defeated Michigan Senator Spencer Abraham as Energy Secretary suggests that Republicans haven't learned from the 104th Congress of 1995, when attempts to gut environmental protections helped undermine the short-lived Gingrich revolution. The beliefs that Norton and Abraham shared about natural-resource exploitation are as close as subsurface oil and gas but completely out of whack with their departments' stated missions. As Colorado's Attorney General from 1991 to 1998 Norton pushed programs of voluntary compliance for industrial polluters and opposed government (and voter) initiatives to counter sprawl. She has been an active advocate for "property rights," the idea that government should compensate developers when environmental laws and regulations limit their profits, while also fighting hard to protect agribusiness access to cheap federal water. Since 1999 she's worked for Brownstein, Hyatt, Farber Strickland, a law firm that has lobbied for a range of sprawl-promoting clients, including Denver International Airport and the city's new taxpayer-financed stadium for its pro football team, the Broncos. A four-year veteran of James Watt's Mountain States Legal Foundation, Norton continued to work for Watt after he became President Reagan's controversial ("We will mine more, drill more, cut more timber") Interior Secretary. In 1998 Norton, along with right-wing activist and BP oil lobbyist Grover Norquist, became co-chair of the Coalition of Republican Environmental Advocates. Dedicated to "free-market environmentalism," CREA included "wise users," property-rights advocates and auto, coal, mining and developer lobbyists. Traditional GOP environmentalists like the late Senator John Chafee refused to join the group. In 1999 Norton joined the team advising the Bush campaign on developing a conservative environmental agenda. Among those working with her was David Koch of Koch industries, which last year paid a $35 million fine for oil pollution in six states; also Lynn Scarlett, a senior fellow at the antiregulatory Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment (FREE), which according to the Washington Post lived up to its acronym by holding a series of all-expenses-paid "seminars" for federal judges at a Montana dude ranch. Norton's commitment to begin oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) could make her the most controversial Interior Secretary since her mentor. On the other hand, the media's focus on her being a pro-choice Republican suggests she'll also support a caribou's right to abort before losing its habitat. Working closely with Norton as Energy Secretary will be longtime Republican operative and former Dan Quayle staff aide Spencer Abraham, who only last year called for the abolition of the Energy Department (as a cost-saving measure). During his one term as senator from Michigan Abraham fought to limit fuel-efficiency requirements for SUVs, limit renewable energy research, abolish the federal gasoline tax and open up ANWR to oil drilling. While this won him a zero rating from the League of Conservation Voters, it also scored him close to $450,000 in contributions from energy and natural resources industries in his failed re-election bid. Ironically, he has now become a personal example of recycling. Aligning with Abraham and Norton will be Don Evans, a FOG (Friend of George) oil executive and $100 million Bush fundraiser. As the next Commerce Secretary (another department Abraham wanted to abolish), Evans will oversee the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the lead agency for America's oceans (which are the source of 25 percent of our domestic oil and 26 percent of our natural gas). If, following the lead of the oilmen in the White House, Cabinet members Norton, Abraham and Evans should choose drilling, particularly in ANWR, as their first environmental battle (something national green groups believe they will), they could quickly find themselves sinking in a political quagmire of their own creation.
[CTRL] Massive police buildup in preparation for protests at Bush inauguration
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/jan2001/wash-j17.shtml Massive police buildup in preparation for protests at Bush inauguration By Paul Scherrer 17 January 2001 A massive police presence will greet the demonstrators who plan to come to Washington this Saturday to protest during George W. Bush's presidential inauguration ceremonies. Coordinated by Republican Party officials and law enforcement agencies, the well-publicized police buildup provides a preview of the undemocratic measures the Bush administration will use to suppress public dissent. Police from 16 federal, state and local agencies will line the parade route. In addition, police in helicopters, sharpshooters on rooftops, and police on horseback will watch over the protests. Plainclothes officers will be circulating among the crowds. For the first time in history, people participating in the protests as well as the inauguration in general must pass though checkpoints. All bags and purses will be searched and individuals frisked. Two stops of the capital city's subway system will be closed, along with large sections of the city's mall from the Washington Monument to the Capitol. A dozen organizations representing a broad range of views—from those opposed to the violation of voting rights in Florida, to opponents of the death penalty and continued sanctions against Iraq, to the National Organization of Women—have obtained permits along the parade route. Representatives from several of these groups have denounced the police build up as an effort to restrict their freedom of expression. “This is intentionally being done to try and scare people from coming,” said Louis Posner, chairman of VotersMarch.org, one of the groups that has obtained a permit to protest. “It took us forever to get a permit and now they are trying to scare people away,” he said. The police buildup is the largest ever undertaken for a presidential inauguration. The number of police on duty will be more than twice the number as were present when Bill Clinton took the oath of office in 1997. For the first time an inauguration has been declared a “national special security event,” which means that the US Secret Service is in overall charge of security arrangements and will direct the activities of the other police agencies involved. No special security concerns have been cited to justify this high level of security other than the fact that the largest number of protesters are expected since the 1973 inauguration of Richard Nixon, which took place during the Vietnam War. Instead authorities have claimed the measures are necessary because of so-called violence during protests at the World Trade Organization (WTO) meeting in Seattle in late 1999 and the World Bank meeting in Washington DC last spring, as well as the national conventions of the Democratic Party in Los Angeles and Republican Party in Philadelphia last summer. In most cases, the incidents of violence at the previous demonstrations were carried out by police against peaceful protesters and those practicing civil disobedience. Moreover, several organizations reported that police spies and provocateurs had infiltrated their groups in order to create a pretext for police action. Last week the Secret Service invited the press to witness a mock attack on a motorcade designed to reconstruct the type of limousines that Bush and his entourage will be riding in during the inauguration parade. The protesters attacking the vehicles in the demonstration used rockets and automatic rifles. The press and police have mounted a concerted campaign to depict the protesters as violent in order to justify a police crackdown. The same rationale was given for the conduct of police at the WTO protests as well as at the Democratic and Republican conventions. Police provoked and attacked demonstrators outside the Democratic National Convention last August, and earlier at the Republican National Convention hundreds of peaceful protesters were arrested and many were held in prison for several weeks. In preparation for Saturday's protests, the Secret Service has stated that it has plans in place for mass arrests, including the transportation of large numbers of people to detention and judicial centers. Police will set up 16 checkpoints that all people attending the inauguration will have to pass through, where bags, signs and other materials will be inspected. Six of these checkpoints will be used for the 42,000 people with tickets given out by the Republican inauguration committee. Everyone else taking part in the protests or watching the inauguration will be required to pass through the other 10 checkpoints, creating the potential for a huge jam of people entering the event. “This is a coordinated police-media campaign to make us out as outsiders,” said Shara Sloan, a staff organizer with the International Action Center, which is protesting for the freedom of political prisoner Mumia
[CTRL] ASHCROFT LIED TO CHAIRMAN LEAHY YESTERDAY
ASHCROFT LIED TO CHAIRMAN LEAHY YESTERDAY From http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0101/16/se.06.html LEAHY: Thank you. Now, Dr. Satcher -- David Satcher -- you opposed his nomination to be our surgeon general even though the Senate eventually approved him. In your speech, you said, "Dr. Satcher says he has a mainstream approach; he's going to pursue consensus." But then you went on to say that you didn't believe that. You told the Senate that he was, "a person of incredibly strong medical credentials, in terms of his expertise and his capacity, but you said the United States has participated in confirming nominations or ratifying proposals without looking carefully at the ethics involved of the guys that are being challenged." So the opposition to Dr. Satcher, by your own statement, was not based on his professional qualifications. Indeed, is it fair to say that applying an Ashcroft standard you were articulating as a SEN. that you are going to oppose a nominee who you believed to be out of step with the mainstream of America, to use the words you used in your speech. ASHCROFT: Mr. Chairman, I'm pleased to have the opportunity to express my concerns here. Dr. David Satcher supported a number of activities that I thought were inconsistent with the ethical obligations of a medical doctor and a physician, particularly the surgeon general, because I think the surgeon general is an individual to whom America must look for guidance in terms of not just technical expertise, but the kind of ethics that ought to accompany people who have life-and-death decision-making in their hands. We all know how important the medical profession is. LEAHY: And you disagreed with those ethics and values. ASHCROFT: Yes, for example, he supported an AIDS study on pregnant women in Africa where some patients were given placebos, even though a treatment existed to limit transmission of AIDS from the mother to the child. In my understanding, this would not be an acceptable strategy for a study in the United States, but he was willing to support the study under those terms in Africa. That was a matter of deep concern to me. Let me -- if I might -- he lobbied Congress to continue an anonymous study testing newborn infants' blood for the AIDS virus, without informing the mother if the test was positive. Now, I have real problems with a situation where someone wants to be the surgeon general of the United States, wants to learn about whether or not there's AIDS present in a medical situation, and not tell the people involved about the AIDS virus. This is a matter of deep concern to me. The idea of sending fatally infected babies home with their unwitting mothers, even after a treatment had been identified for AIDS, to me was an idea that was unacceptable for an individual who wanted to be the leader in terms of the medical community and a role model in the United States. It was on those grounds that I made the decision. Now, it's my decision and I'm not trying to duck responsibility for the decision. But those are the facts as I understood them, and that's the reason I made the decision. LEAHY: So it'd be fair to say you disagreed with his ethical choices and his values, and you felt you should vote against him because of that. ASHCROFT: I think it's fair to say that I believed he violated the ethical values that are characteristic.. . LEAHY: I'm not trying to parse words, and I just want to make sure I understand, because I'm trying to get this... (CROSSTALK) ASHCROFT: It was a shortfall in his adherence to ethical values of the American medical community that I think were... LEAHY: And because you disagreed with what you saw as his ethics and values, you voted against him. I'm not trying to place words in your mouth, I want to make sure I understand. ASHCROFT: Well, then maybe... LEAHY: Trying to give you the fairest... ASHCROFT: Well, maybe if you will let me state my words... LEAHY: Sure. ASHCROFT: ... then you don't have to worry about placing words in my mouth. (LAUGHTER) I believed that his willingness to accept a standard for medical research in Africa, on African women, that would not be acceptable in the United States was an ethical lapse that was very important. I, secondly, believed his willingness to send AIDS-infected babies home with their mothers without telling their mothers about the infection of the children was another ethical problem that was very serious. Based on those standards, which I believe are less than acceptable standards in the medical community in this country, I voted against him. LEAHY: That's what I was trying to get you to say. Thank you. ASHCROFT: I'm sorry. LEAHY: Maybe we were speaking past each other. But thank you. And from http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0101/16/cf.00.html PRESS: Senator Specter, Senator Ashcroft was also asked today, in addition to Bill Lann Lee, about his opposition to David Satcher as attorney general. I was surprised, he made a very serious charge. He said he voted against him
[CTRL] Fw: President-elect Bush needs your help!
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Bruce Eberle - Millions of Americans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: President-elect Bush needs your help! Dear Arthur, If you haven't already done so -- please help President- elect George W. Bush by going to http://www.MillionsofAmericans.com/home/A394.cfm (formerly ElectionIntegrity2000) and signing your online petition to Senate leaders Trent Lott and Tom Daschle urging them to confirm John Ashcroft as Attorney General. **Arthur, use the personalized link at the bottom of this e-mal to avoid re-typing your name and address** As you know, President-elect Bush is taking a lot of heat for his cabinet nominees. Many Democrats are seeking to undermine his new administration any way possible. That's why we need to show the Senate leaders that the American people fully support George W. Bush and we urge prompt confirmation of the people chosen to serve as his closest advisors. So far, MillionsofAmericans.com has collected over 70,000 signed petitions in just 5 days. We need to double that number before confirmation hearings begin. No schedule is set for the hearings -- but they are expected to begin a few days before the January 20th Inauguration of George W. Bush. Remember, a good Attorney General is worth fighting for -- so let's keep the pressure on our Senators to do the right thing and confirm John Ashcroft. You can help by going to MillionsofAmericans.com and signing your online petition. Thanks -- and PLEASE spread the word by forwarding this e-mail or telling a friend about MillionsofAmericans.com. For Integrity, Bruce Eberle PS: By the way, if you'd like to see John Ashcroft's bio and his record as U.S. Senator and Governor of Missouri -- we've got more info posted on our site. PERSONALIZED LINK TO ASHCROFT PETITION use this link to avoid retyping your e-mail address http://www.millionsofamericans.com/home/A394.cfm?L=AH107428P=Q43BXB AOL FRIENDLY LINK: A HREF="http://www.millionsofamericans.com/home/A394.cfm?L=AH107428P=Q43BXB" Petition/A *** Delete this personalized link and the opt-out section below before forwarding this e-mail *** - If you would like to unsubscribe from Millions of Americans e-mail updates or change your e-mail address, please visit our web site at: http://www.millionsofamericans.com/home/up.cfm?L=AH107428P=Q43BXBA=391 AOL Users: A HREF="http://www.millionsofamericans.com/home/up.cfm?L=AH107428P=Q43BXBA=3 91"Unsubscribe or Change E-mail/A - A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ASHCROFT LIED TO CHAIRMAN LEAHY YESTERDAY
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/17/01 6:06:39 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PRESS: ... of sending AIDS infected babies home without telling their mothers. There's the surgeon general there on the screen. Now, I checked today after the hearing. That program was not begun by David Satcher. It was actually done under Ronald Reagan in 1988 to test the spread of AIDS in this country, and it was ended by Doctor Satcher in 1995, two years before he was nominated as surgeon general. Again, wasn't that a bogus, and unfair charge on Ashcroft's part? Amazing. I noticed that several times Ashcroft said he would follow the LAW and not look at the results of an action to determine his position. Yet, he cited undesirable results as the reason he litigated so heavily as MO AG against voluntary segregation AND as one of his reasons for opposing Ronnie White. Since he said, "I will not look to the results of an action but to the LAW" several times, I found this to be a glaring contradiction, and I'm surprised none of the Senators picked up on it. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Why won't Rush Limbaugh denounce Ronnie White?
Why won't Rush Limbaugh denounce Ronnie White? Maybe he knows White is no more pro-criminal than his own cousin, Missouri Supreme Court Justice Stephen Limbaugh Jr. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Eric Boehlert Jan. 17, 2001 | As the battle over Attorney General-designate John Ashcroft rages and the rhetoric is ratcheted up, more and more of Ashcroft's allies are taking aim at the man emerging as his most damaging nemesis, Judge Ronnie White. Yet one person remains conspicuously absent from the conservative's amen chorus: Rush Limbaugh. Of course, the conservative talker is ranting about the "disgusting" attempt to kill Ashcroft's nomination, led by "dangerous," "fundamentally lawless" and "undemocratic" liberals who live "outside the mainstream of American life." But in recent days Limbaugh has seemed reluctant to pull the character assassin's trigger the way so many of his conservative colleagues have when it comes to defaming White, Missouri's first black state Supreme Court justice whose nomination to the federal bench Ashcroft derailed last year. That episode of hardball has returned to haunt Ashcroft as his critics prepare to use it to question both the nominee's racial tolerance and his sense of political fair play during his confirmation hearings this week. To help soften those blows, Ashcroft's allies are busy once again ridiculing White. Republican National Committee chairman Jim Nicholson sent an e-mail alert last week stressing, "Ashcroft voted against that judge because of the lack of content of Ronnie White's character, not the color of his skin." Beverly LaHaye, founder of Concerned Women for America, told National Public Radio, "John Ashcroft has shown his respect for the law. Unlike White, he realizes there are laws that are meant to protect the innocent and bring justice to the guilty." And asked how Ashcroft allies should respond to the Ronnie White question, G. Gordon Liddy told MSNBC's Chris Matthews, "First thing I'd do would be counterattack. I'd really expose the guy." So why isn't Limbaugh skewering White's judicial record and holding him up to public ridicule as a liberal, soft-on-crime judge in advance of White's crucial testimony during Ashcroft's nomination this week? Maybe it's because Limbaugh, whose family is steeped in Missouri law and its judiciary, actually knows better than trying to judge a state Supreme Court justice based on a single opinion. Maybe it's because Limbaugh's cousin, Justice Stephen Limbaugh Jr., sits on the Missouri Supreme Court with White and might not sit by quietly if Rush started demagoguing White the way others on the right have. The two judges represent opposite ends of the political spectrum. Limbaugh is easily the most conservative member of the Missouri Supreme Court. But White and Limbaugh have become friends. When named to the Missouri Supreme Court, neither Limbaugh nor White moved his family to the state capital of Jefferson City, so the men often eat dinner together and read briefs late into the night in their next-door offices. Should Rush decide to tell his listeners that Ashcroft was right to oppose White because the black jurist could not be trusted to be tough on criminals (killers in particular), then the dozens of times White and Limbaugh have agreed on death penalty cases might pose a bigger problem. In most of those instances, the two voted to affirm executions. But on occasion, they teamed up to overturn death sentences for murderers whose guilt was never in doubt. Instead, White and Limbaugh joined majority decisions in ruling that due to inadequate counsel or legal missteps by trial judges, convicted killers were entitled to new sentencing trials. Yet according to the Ashcroft camp, White was rightfully denied a seat on the federal bench simply because of one 1998 case, State vs. Johnson, in which he wrote a lone dissent suggesting that cop-killer James Johnson deserved another sentencing trial because of his attorneys' botched defense. That's how White, in the words of Ashcroft, morphed into a "dangerous," "activist" justice who "would use his lifetime [federal] appointment to push the law in a pro-criminal direction." Since White has voted to affirm death sentences roughly 70 percent of the time, that's a characterization almost no one familiar with the Missouri Supreme Court would likely take seriously, including Justice Limbaugh. The fact is, if the new Ashcroft standard for federal judicial nominees were adopted and opponents of nominees could simply cherry-pick one or two opinions in which nominees voted to overturn death sentences in particularly shocking, cold-blooded cases, Stephen Limbaugh Jr., the law-and-order justice, might no longer be qualified for the federal bench. On April 14, 1994, Leon Taylor robbed a gas station in Independence, Mo. While Taylor's accomplice ran back to the car with $400 in a bag, Taylor took the gas station manager and his
[CTRL] Excerpts from Religion and the Racist Right - The Origins of the Christian Identity Movement
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[CTRL] Plum Isle progress?
Plum Isle progress? http://www.suffolktimes.com/stories/news2.htm By Gwendolen Groocock After a year of accusations, stonewalling and murky suspicion, Friday's meeting of the Plum Island Oversight Committee and representatives of the Plum Island Animal Disease Center (PIADC) provided a breath of fresh air. The mood was candid at the well-attended meeting, meant to be limited to organizational issues but transformed into a wide-ranging three-hour discussion. Plum Island officials turned up -- uninvited, they thought -- after reading of the scheduled meeting in The Suffolk Times. It turned out that an invitation had been sent to former acting director Dr. Lee Ann Thomas, who transferred to a new job in Washington last year, not PIADC director Dr. David Huxsoll. Despite some healthy give and take, oversight committee members still are grumbling that they've been lied to, and accuse the USDA-owned island facility of not trying very hard to be forthcoming. A public hearing on Plum Island has been tentatively set for Feb. 7. "When I hear on the streets they're digging up drums and having them taken off by an environmental cleanup company, and I can't tell anyone what's going on... the lines of communication still haven't developed, and that's unfortunate," said Southold Town Supervisor Jean Cochran. Ms. Cochran co-chairs the oversight committee with Assemblywoman Pat Acampora (R-Mattituck) ."Education and understanding are extremely important," Dr. Huxsoll said after the meeting. "I am appalled at the lack of knowledge about Plum Island. There's no reason not to be completely open and understood. I have to work harder. "The oversight committee's primary concern remains the U.S. Department of Agriculture's plan for a biosafety level 4 lab to study viruses for lethal, incurable and possibly unknown diseases. Alarm bells rang in November, when the committee became aware that the USDA is seeking $150 million for construction on Plum Island. According to the request for proposals, the project is for new level 3 labs and animal care facilities, some "constructed to meet at a minimum BL3 standards. "The present BL3 lab area would be demolished. In the early 1990s, $20 million was spent renovating offices, the entrance, conference rooms and some labs. Dr. Huxsoll said the $150 million is not yet available and that the final project will probably cost more. What has been authorized is $3.7 million for the design of the new labs, he said. Right now, the USDA is soliciting bids for design and construction work. "For improvements? $150 million worth of improvement?" asked Jean Segall, representing Senator Kenneth LaValle (R-Port Jefferson). The BL3 labs were built in the 1950s, said Dr. Huxsoll, and much about how research on animals is conducted has changed since then. "It's reached a point where we're far better off with new construction than repairing piecemeal," he said. As to a BL4 lab, Dr. Huxsoll said that whatever company does the new construction will likely be capable of planning and building a BL4 lab as well. "If a person were to do that, it would be important to build it (BL4 capability) in from the start," he said. A congressional mandate is needed for Plum Island to upgrade to BL4. Debbie O'Kane of the North Fork Environmental Council said that when PIADC assistant director Carlos Santoyo was asked whether such a mandate is being sought along with the $150 million construction funds, he was not allowed to say. "Interesting," commented Ms. Acampora, who awaits a response to her letter to Dr. Huxsoll requesting copies of any studies by the USDA pertaining to the feasibility of a BL4 lab at Plum Island. "We'll have to do some detective work," she said. Committee member Merlon Wiggin, a biocontainment consultant and former Plum Island employee, proposed a list of criteria for a risk assessment study. County Legislator Michael Caracciolo (R-Baiting Hollow), who recently formed his own committee, also proposed a risk assessment and has secured $100,000 for that purpose. Oversight committeee members agreed such a study could be done for much less, especially with the cooperation of the USDA. The process of a risk assessment study, using expert consultants, would not only help to educate the public along the way and put fears to rest, but could also point out weaknesses at the research center, possibly leading to improvements, said Mr. Wiggin. Ms. O'Kane, also a PIOC member, reported on four meetings of the USDA's committee on the island, on which she also sits. Observing refuse sites, she saw "huge syringes sticking out of the ground," she said. "I was amazed at the piles of stuff I saw all over this beautiful island." PI representatives explained that past policy called for no refuse to leave the island, and to be buried on site. The syringes can be seen, they said, because those pits are being cleaned. Three of the 10 medical waste sites on the island have been cleaned up, said Mark
[CTRL] A debate with Antony Sutton
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[CTRL] Conspiracy Theory Index
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[CTRL] AF News 18 Jan 01 Part 2
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 0059. CENTAF commander visits Southwest Asia by Staff Sgt. Cindy Maier 363rd Air Expeditionary Wing Public Affairs SOUTHWEST ASIA (AFPN) -- During his recent two-week visit to Southwest Asia, Lt. Gen. Chuck Wald, 9th Air Force and U.S. Central Command Air Forces commander, said he does not see American forces leaving this area in the near future. However, with the new presidential administration just days away from taking office, Wald said he expects a policy review to evaluate what will happen in the future for this region. "The heart of (the review) will be, 'Are we going to stay?' or 'Are we going to leave?'" he said. "The spectrum of what could happen is that we could maybe get more aggressive than what we are being, all the way back to we would leave. But, leaving is not very likely, in my opinion." Ward said he thinks the new administration sees the importance of the mission in the theater. "I think there will be a policy review; I think there should be because of, first of all, the mission," he said. "The bottom line is that the mission has gone very well. I think the policy, even as critical as people have been about it, is very good." The policy began nearly 10 years ago, after the end of Operation Desert Storm. "We've been doing this since August 1991, and Saddam has not really threatened anyone in the region, per se, since this has started," Wald said. "We've cleaned out a significant portion of his integrated air defense system in the southern part of the (area of responsibility), particularly in the last couple of years since the (rules of engagement have) changed and where we have better capability to respond." Though the general thinks the mission is going along very well, he believes the review will be critical to the future of American presence in this region. "Because of the critical nature of what the policy has been for eight years, there has to be a review," Wald said. "During that review, I think they'll (ask) 'Is there anything else we can do?' When it's all said and done, we'll probably have something pretty close to what we've got." There is one thing about the presence here that needs to be clarified, Wald said. "Brig. Gen. (Allen G.) Peck, (363d Air Expeditionary Wing commander), and his folks, as well as all the rest of the folks at Operation Southern Watch aren't directly related to the sanctions (against Iraq). Sanctions are things like restricting commercial flights into Iraq," Wald said. "We are here to prevent Iraq from attacking Iraqi people in the southern part of the country. Additionally, we are here for regional stability. But, we don't have a mission for sanctions." Considering American presence in the region will not lighten, Ward said the current way of deploying Air Force people to this area, by way of the Air Expeditionary Force, is the right way to go. The current AEF system has helped the Air Force in a lot of areas, Ward said. "The (operations tempo) issue that we were living with two or three years ago seems to be gone. We don't hear people complaining about the fact that they're gone from home all the time," he said. Ward said the AEF has "improved morale and predictability, gotten the total force more involved, and helped us focus on what we need as an Air Force for equipment, as well helping us see where we ought to place our emphasis and organize ourselves better." There is room for improvement, he said. "We've got a little ways to go on some Air Force-wide manpower tracking issues and things like that, but, I think it's been a significant success." 0064. WWII vet gets long-awaited recognition by Staff Sgt. Brian Jones 20th Fighter Wing Public Affairs SHAW AIR FORCE BASE, S.C. (AFPN) -- In early November 1944 the crew of the B-17 Flying Fortress "Take it Easy" gathered at an English air base for their morning brief. When the maps were pulled down to reveal the day's target, the crew let out a collective sigh. The 10 airmen of the "Take it Easy" were to bomb a heavily protected petroleum plant in Misburg, Germany, a target the co-pilot hated more than any other. The mission would prove to be one the surviving members of the B-17 would not soon forget, and for one crewmember a mission that would take 56 years to garner proper recognition. Retired Maj. Charles H. Bonner, the co-pilot on "Take it Easy," was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross recently for his role during that World War II flight. During the day's events, Bonner recounted -- as if it were yesterday -- the mission that would end in the death of six of the B-17's crew. "The Germans had about 400 anti-aircraft guns they could put on you any way you approached Misburg," Bonner said. "Before we hit the initial point for our bomb run we were hit by a couple of hundred of these guns." Bonner was to split time with the pilot in 20-minute shifts, but on this
[CTRL] AF News 18 Jan 01 Part 1
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 0060. 'Air-war' starts earlier than most people remember By Staff Sgt. Bob Oldham 314th Airlift Wing Public Affairs LITTLE ROCK AIR FORCE BASE, Ark. (AFPN) -- While Jan. 17 marked the 10-year anniversary of the start of the air war in the Persian Gulf, for airmen in the cargo-airlift community, the "war" perhaps started five months earlier around Aug. 7, 1990. These airmen did not fire missiles at Iraq or drop bombs on members of Saddam Hussein's elite Republican Guard. Instead, they had the laborious task of transporting troops and cargo to Southwest Asia and providing intratheater airlift once the troops and cargo arrived in country. At the core of intratheater airlift was the C-130 Hercules, 16 of which were sent from Little Rock Air Force Base, Ark., to the region. At 12:55 a.m. Aug. 7, officials here received a secure telephone call from 22nd Air Force to form the base's crisis action team, which is where key base leaders, such as group commanders, wing staff chiefs and other mission-critical people meet to "go to war." On Aug. 14, the 16 C-130s and more than 400 people, primarily aircrew and maintenance troops, began departing. On Aug. 21, a civilian Boeing 747 left the base with more than 250 people and support equipment. The majority of which were deployed to Bateen Air Base, which is near Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates, to form the 1620th Tactical Airlift Wing (Provisional). Others were sent to bases throughout the region. Then-Staff Sgt. D.L. Thompson, a flight engineer who is now a technical sergeant assigned to the 314th Operations Support Squadron, was on the first C-130 that left the base. "I remember when we threw on the power on the airplane," he said. "It took it a few minutes to get rolling because it was so heavy, and it was amazing how much runway it took up to get that thing airborne." Two days later, they arrived at Bateen Air Base. "It was a nice long runway. It looked like a desert environment," he said. "The initial shock of where I was at was probably when we opened the crew entrance door, and it was so humid. Arkansas is very humid, but it's nothing compared to Bateen. It is humid as all get out, and in August it was bad." He said there was one gigantic hangar, and everybody was sleeping in it until "hooches" arrived at a later date. Crews were notified around midnight, each night, if they were flying the next day. In some cases, Thompson said, crews didn't receive their full crew rest before being dispatched to fly another mission. He said he also remembers how uncomfortable the country was. "You couldn't put on shorts and a T-shirt without your body just drenching in sweat," he said. Insects were also a problem in the region. "No matter what you did, those flies would just try to get into any opening they could," he said. "Your ears, your nose, your mouth; they were just a nuisance. You couldn't get away from them." And sand was everywhere, he said. Thompson recalls hauling a lot of Meals, Ready to Eat; troops; spare parts and bombs to various points throughout Saudi Arabia to prepare for the Jan. 17 air war and the eventual ground war, which only lasted 100 hours, he said. One memory for Thompson is how servicemembers were creating ways to make MREs more palatable. "Hot sauce became a very popular item," he said. "You didn't have to worry about heating anything up, because all you had to do was put the MRE, like the ham slice, on top of the airplane, and it would be ready in 10 minutes. And I mean it would be boiling; it would be so hot." While the base's C-130s accounted for 10 percent of the total C-130 force in the region, the base's cargo aircraft performed 18 percent of the C-130 airlift used during operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm. Although Thompson had to return home early before the Jan. 17 air war started because of a knee injury, others, like then-2nd Lt. Miles Price, who was newly assigned to Pope AFB, N.C., and is now a major assigned to the 314th OSS, stayed in the region to continue hauling cargo and supplies. Price started his tour in the gulf at Thumrait, Oman. Five months later, the unit he was with moved to Dhahran AB, Saudi Arabia. Dhahran was the site of a scud missile attack, which struck a dormitory killing 28 servicemembers and wounding another 98. "One of the scariest things was listening to the (Patriot anti-missile batteries) go off," Price said. "The first time the Patriots went off, I thought it was the end of the world." There was no mistaking the thunderous sound of a Patriot missile as it screamed through the air to seek out an incoming Scud missile, he said. Dhahran AB is one place where Army troops arrived in country and C-130 crews flew them to airfields near the front lines. "They would march out a whole bunch of troops who were loaded down with so much stuff they could barely walk," Price said.
[CTRL] Hate crimes against whites blacked out by media
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Hate crimes against whites blacked out by media SAMUEL FRANCIS FOR RELEASE Tuesday, January 16, 2001 By now, you have undoubtedly learned all the grisly details of the most recent "hate crime" atrocity, this one committed in Wichita, Kansas, where, on the night of Dec. 15, two men broke into a house, kidnapped the five residents, robbed them, raped the women, forced the men to have sex with them and the women to have sex with each other and then shot all of them in the back. Only one woman survived, walking naked and barefoot nearly a mile with a bullet in her back in freezing weather to get help and tell the tale. Of course you really haven't heard this story before, unless you happen to read the local press of Wichita. It hasn't been reported much of anywhere else, certainly not in the national press or on national television. Is this an instance of media bias, of the latent racism that regards "hate crimes" as unimportant? Well, not exactly. The Wichita massacre was not perpetrated by white skinheads, Klansmen, militia members or neo-Nazis. In fact, it was not committed by whites at all but by two brothers, Reginald and Jonathan Carr, who happen to be black. All the victims were white. For that reason and that alone, the Wichita massacre is not a "hate crime" and indeed is not even a news item. As far as the media are concerned, it never happened. The Carr brothers, identified by the surviving victim, are also charged with kidnapping, robbing and pistol-whipping another man, also white, a week earlier. Then on Dec. 11 the Brothers Carr visited a local musician outside her house and shot her repeatedly. She also was white. Were these crimes against whites by blacks motivated by racial hatred? No one in Wichita, neither police nor preachers nor politicians, will say so. A Wichita police captain says it's just too early to tell what the motive was. The clergyman at the funeral of one of the victims instructed the mourners that they should forgive the killers as Christ forgave those who crucified Him. The preacher at another funeral said the same. No one demanded that the "community," let alone the black community specifically, search their souls for the roots from which these crimes blossomed. To date, neither President Clinton nor President-elect Bush nor President-wanna-be Jesse Jackson has condemned the massacre or visited the community or dispatched a delegate to display his concern. The brutal truth -- more brutal than the murders themselves perhaps - - is that no one gives a damn that six white people were butchered by two black men. When three white men in Jasper, Texas killed a black man for apparently racial reasons in 1998, Mr. Clinton immediately denounced it and sent a delegate to the victim's funeral, and the Rev. Jackson arrived before the corpse was cold to preach about the sins of racial hatred the community harbored. It is not recorded that preachers at the funeral in Jasper called on the victim's family to forgive the killers. It is not recorded that local police at once announced it was too early to determine motive. Everyone knew what the motive in Jasper was -- white racism, the hatred that festered in the breasts of every white person in the community -- and it never occurred to anyone to suggest that that kind of hatred or the white men driven by it be forgiven. Before the year was out, two of the killers in Jasper had received death sentences, and there is no nationwide movement led by Hollywood starlets to commute them, as there is for the murderers of white men like Leonard Peltier and Mumia Abu-Jamal. The total national news blackout of the Wichita massacre is one more piece of evidence that the real purpose of "hate crimes" is not to penalize racial hate but to stigmatize whites as those exclusively responsible for racial hate. Every "hate crime" committed by whites receives the kind of national attention the Jasper incident received, while every "hate crime" committed by non-whites is ignored and denied. The Wichita crimes are by no means the only anti-white atrocity. There are also the cases of Kevin Shifflett in Alexandria, Va. and Missy McLauchlin in Charleston, S.C. and a score of others. Most Americans have never heard of them either. There is, then, an obvious double-standard on "hate crimes" that masks the political and racial agenda they serve. Not only non-white malcontents like Mr. Jackson and his cronies but also white authorities -- the police, the clergy, the media -- help perpetuate the double-standard. Think about this. As whites become a minority of the national population in the next 50 years, does the double-standard about non-white atrocities against whites inspire you with confidence that whites will continue to enjoy equal justice under law? Samuel
Re: [CTRL] Mastadon (was: Global warming claims 'based on falsedata'??)
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Re: [CTRL] Massive police buildup in preparation for protests at Bush inauguration
-Caveat Lector- Police from 16 federal, state and local agencies will line the parade route. In addition, police in helicopters, sharpshooters on rooftops, and police on horseback will watch over the protests. Plainclothes officers will be circulating among the crowds. For the first time in history, people participating in the protests as well as the inauguration in general must pass though checkpoints. All bags and purses will be searched and individuals frisked. By way of comparison, consider this: When the Sandanistas first took over Nicaragua, President Ortega stood on a street corner in Managua, with no bodyguards, personally passing out loaded AK-47s to any citizen who wanted one. I guess we wont be seeing Bush do anything like that with the citizens of Washington DC, will we? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mastadon (was: Global warming claims 'based onfalsedata'??)
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- became of the mastadon It wasn't a mastadon. It was a mammoth. It's being studied. Sources please. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mastadon (was: Global warming claims 'based onfalsedata'??)
-Caveat Lector- Sources please. http://www.discovery.com/exp/mammoth/mammoth.html A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ÝÝÝÚrchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: SUBSIDIZED HOUSING!
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Ike Harley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: SUBSIDIZED HOUSING! A little over a year ago when Hillary decided to run for the U.S. Senate from New York she found out that first she would have to be a resident of that state. She and Willy went and found a nice little place for 2.5 million dollars. They could not qualify for the loan so the person who is going to head up the DNC guaranteed the loan for them. It has come to my attention lately that the way the Clinton's are paying for this residence is by charging the Secret Service( taxpayers of this country) to house it's personnel while they are guarding the Clintons. The rent being charged is equal to their mortgage payment. They will get this protection for life so that means that you and I are going to pay for their meager little 2.5 million dollar residence. Now comes the real knife to the heart, the same thing is going to happen at the meager little residence in DC that they are buying to live in while Hillary is a Senator. Bottom line: Bill and Hillary will own two multi-million dollar houses at the end of the mortgage terms and we the taxpayer will have paid for them. The Clinton's have been living in government subsidized housing for years and still do! No wonder they are so big on welfare and the welfare state, it's how they live! comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Short, sweet and to the point. If you know of others that might like to receive Ike's commentaries send their E-mail address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "Ike Harley" in the subject line. Keep up with the latest news and information for Northwest Florida at http://www.gulf1.com AOL Users: a href="http://www.gulf1.com"Gulf1/a If you wish to be removed from this mailing list send and E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "Remove Ike Harley" in the subject line. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hamburger Meat and the Kosovo Cancer Cluster: Destroying Those We ...
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Jan 01, at 6:09, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: And don't forget, had President George Herbert Walker Bush said one little word when the Serbs started this mess, there would never have been a need for any weapons to be used there. He would only have been required to raise his head and say stop. He did not. Years later, Thomas Eagleberger responded to a question as to why he did not by saying, "He had business interests there." I hope they were very profitable. Prudy Seems to me that Poppy Bush is CitiBank's (or some other major bank's) liason to Vietnam and whenever I think about Colombia, it occurs to me that someone with "interests" would like to switch our major heroin and cocaine sources from Colombia back to Vietnam, Cambodia and The Golden Triangle. Surely I am thinking paranoid thoughts again. But it, too, would be very profitable. sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HUNDREDS SEE 'JESUS' ON MUSLIM'S HOUSE
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/17/01 3:16:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Holy shit! No. That's not correct. It's a holy tortilla, The resturant had the tortilla varnished and mounted in a frame. It's on display in the enterance to the resturant. Bill A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hate crimes against whites blacked out by media
-Caveat Lector- Well with the advent of AIDS, no need to worry about the USA becoming dominated by blacks; pretty soon, South Africa will be dominated by whites.for AIDS and HIV it seems will be the final solution. Any any white American who permits their children to study sodomy in schools or mix racially they cannot say they have not been warned. Now note in Russia AIDS is on the rise and David Duke is over there denouncing the Jewswhat a laugh, as if David Duke was ever a real Klansman But this opens the door to more christians and moslems being murdered.has David Duke gone home to roost? Sometimes I wonder. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ashcroft Nomination
-Caveat Lector- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Ashcroft Nomination From: Libertarian Party Announcements [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- === SPECIAL ACTION ITEM! FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY === Watergate Office Building 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 Website: www.LP.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For information about the party: (800) ELECT-US === January 17, 2001 === We recently received the following message from DRCNet, a nonpartisan organization promoting drug policy reform. DRCNet is opposing the nomination of John Ashcroft for the position of Attorney General " . . . because of his record as one of the most hawkish drug warriors supporting some of the most extreme drug war legislation during his tenure in the Senate." The views expressed below are those of DRCNet, and do not represent an official statement by the Libertarian Party. However, given the Party's long-standing opposition to the government's "War on Drugs", we felt that this message would be of interest to our members and supporters. === Dear friend of drug law reform: As you've probably read in mainstream news accounts, former US Senator John Ashcroft (R-MO) has been nominated by President- Elect George W. Bush for the office of Attorney General. DRCNet, as a nonpartisan organization devoted strictly to drug policy reform, is opposing the Ashcroft nomination because of his record as one of the most hawkish drug warriors supporting some of the most extreme drug war legislation during his tenure in the Senate. We are writing to ask you to visit a web site we've set up to encourage grassroots opposition to the Ashcroft nomination -- http://www.StopJohnAshcroft.org -- and to use the information and the online petitions there to help defeat this nomination while there's still time. If drug policy and related Constitutional issues are the criteria, there is no question that John Ashcroft has one of the worst records on Capitol Hill. As Senator, John Ashcroft sponsored a bill that would have simultaneously violated the spirit if not the letter of both the 1st and 4th amendments to the US Constitution: the "Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act" would have criminalized certain drug- and drug policy- related discussions on the Internet, and would have allowed police to conduct secret searches of homes, with the residents never being informed before or after that the police were there. Indeed, in his six years in the Senate, Ashcroft proposed amendments to the Constitution a full seven times, including an amendment to make it easier to amend the Constitution. As Senator, John Ashcroft demonstrated an unwillingness to deal seriously with the problem of racial disparity in the criminal justice system. While outwardly professing support for a bill to study racial profiling, Sen. Ashcroft in reality use his chairmanship of the Subcommittee on the Constitution to bottle it up in committee for several months; the bill never made it to the Senate floor despite bipartisan support. In response to charges that the powder/crack cocaine sentencing disparity is racially discriminatory, Sen. Ashcroft rejected legislation recommended by the US Sentencing Commission and sponsored by African American legislators that would have reduced crack cocaine sentences to the level of powder cocaine sentences. Instead, Sen. Ashcroft supported a bill to raise the powder cocaine sentences -- despite a consensus among criminal justice experts that the disparities are driven by enforcement policy and prosecutorial bias in conjunction with the laws, and that powder cocaine enforcement is also carried out in a racially discriminatory way. Sen. Ashcroft objected vociferously to spending money on drug treatment rather than drug interdiction, claiming that treatment "enables" drug users and that enforcement is a more effective use of funds. But after decades characterized by intensive interdiction efforts during which time the availability of drugs has increased and the price plummeted, and despite study after study showing that treatment is dramatically more effective than enforcement, to claim that interdiction is more effective than treatment demonstrates an astonishing inability or unwillingness to evaluate drug policy in an objective manner. Indeed, there isn't clear evidence that drug interdiction is more effective than doing nothing; to claim interdiction is more effective than treatment is simply off the reality meter. As Attorney General, John Ashcroft would have enormous power and influence over policies such as these. Particularly troubling is his lack of seriousness about racial disparity in
[CTRL] Harris gets a scolding from civil rights panel
-Caveat Lector- Harris gets a scolding from civil rights panel http://www.sptimes.com/News/011301/State/Harris_gets_a_scoldin.shtml Members lash out when the secretary of state says she delegated responsibility for the election. By DIANE RADO 1/13/01 TALLAHASSEE--For two days, a federal civil rights commission listened to a string of public officials shift the blame for Florida's notorious voting problems during the presidential election. Frustration boiled over Friday when Secretary of State Katherine Harris, Florida's chief elections official, testified that she delegates a high level of authority to elections director Clay Roberts and that she would refer some questions to him. The impression was that Harris was shirking responsibility for voting problems that subjected Florida to national ridicule and sparked a U.S. Commission on Civil Rights inquiry into alleged civil rights violations. Irate commission members lashed out at her. "It (the election) was a disaster for your state as well as for the rest of the country and the way people feel about having faith in the system of this country," said commission member Victoria Wilson. She accused Harris of ignoring local elections supervisors who wanted money for voter education and other improvements, as well as guidance from the state on election matters. Supervisors "were desperate for your help, and the word that comes to mind, is that you abandoned them," Wilson said. "The fact is, that you didn't help the voters," she said. "You did not help the voters and the voters really had to the pay the price. I don't know who's responsible, the supervisors are saying you're responsible, you're saying Mr. Roberts is responsible. I'm on the merry-go-round called denial." Commission vice chairman Cruz Reynoso raised his voice as he told Harris that she can't avoid responsibility by saying she delegates authority for elections. Harris is an elected member of the state Cabinet. Roberts is an employee of the state. "You're the one that's responsible," he said. The commission's chairwoman, Mary Frances Berry, posed her questions to Harris anyway, not to Roberts. "I care what Mr. Roberts says, but as I understand the law, you are accountable and even though you delegated it, we should ask you what you think," she said. In her prior role as an assistant secretary of education in the federal government, Berry said, she felt it was her duty to be informed so that she could answer any questions posed by Congress. After being criticized by commission members, Harris said that though she delegates day-to-day operations for elections to Roberts, "I am chief elections office and I consider myself accountable and responsible for this election." The election put Florida in the international spotlight when the close vote between Texas Gov. George W. Bush and Vice President Al Gore led to vote recounts and legal battles for five weeks after Election Day. Bush was ultimately declared the winner, and Florida's 25 electoral votes put him in the White House. Harris, a co-chairman of Bush's campaign in Florida, was in the center of the political drama. Upon the advice of her attorneys and media consultants, Harris usually read carefully written statements, answered no questions, or referred questions to Roberts as her elections expert. But that didn't work before the civil rights panel Friday. Commission chairwoman Berry called Harris' description of her role as a manager who delegates "laughable." Indeed, members of the audience began to chuckle every time Harris turned to Roberts to answer a question. Harris and Roberts were the last of the witnesses at the commission's two-day hearing. The commission is looking into a host of allegations, including that minority voters were intimidated, turned away from the polls, forced to use outdated equipment at polling places and wrongly listed as convicted felons on voter lists. Confusion over the convicted felons extended to non-minorities as well. Linda Howell, the white elections supervisor in Madison County, told the commission Friday that she too was being accused of being a convicted felon after a mix-up created by the state. She received a letter at her office from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in March 2000 that stated: "After reviewing your Florida criminal history, we have determined that you have a Florida felony conviction in our repository." The state later apologized. Attorney General Bob Butterworth's civil rights division is investigating the purging of voters from registration rolls, as well as other allegations of civil rights violations. He also told the commission Friday that he has already drafted proposed legislation that would prohibit motor vehicle checkpoints on Election Day. Roberta Tucker, 49, a state employee, told the commission Thursday that she was suspicious and intimidated when she was stopped at a roadblock about two miles from her polling place by highway patrol troopers. She had never
[CTRL] Florida ballots face one more count
-Caveat Lector- THURSDAY, JANUARY 18, 2001 Florida ballots face one more count http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2001/01/18/p18s2.htm By Kim Campbell Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor Maybe you can put the Florida recount behind you, but America's largest news organizations can't. They are pooling their resources to find out, for history's sake, what those uncounted ballots really look like. Results are expected in the next few months from partners The Miami Herald and USA Today, and from a highly unusual consortium announced last week that includes The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, CNN, and the Associated Press. By sharing the significant costs of the investigation, these normally competitive news outlets will be able to bring information to the public that may improve the election process in the future and help answer questions about what actually happened in Florida. "We spent 36 days arguing about what was on 180,000 ballots that were never seen," says John Broder, Washington editor for The New York Times and a coordinator of the consortium. "Those ballots contain a wealth of information." When the results are released, Americans will have a better idea of how many different types of ballots there were, and how many dimpled ones, for example, each candidate had in his pile.In some cases, consortium members may draw conclusions about what voters expected to do, but they say their goal is to create a definitive archive of the ballots, not to change the outcome of the election. The idea appeals to readers in Florida, says Mark Seibel, assistant managing editor at The Miami Herald. "The mail is overwhelmingly in favor of our doing it. And the reason is a very simple one: curiosity," he says. But it doesn't sit well with some Republicans, who are concerned about the accuracy of the media's approach and about taking legitimacy away from President-elect Bush. Mediawatchers argue this is a classic case for press involvement. As a watchdog, it should be investigating the process by which an elected official came to power. "That's exactly the function the press is supposed to perform. That's why it's called the Fourth Estate," says Tom Rosenstiel, director of the Project for Excellence in Journalism. "What matters is that the public gets the truest answer it can." If the results turn out in Mr. Bush's favor, it might give his leadership more credence, not less, notes Mr. Seibel. "Our projections have indicated that it's quite likely [Bush won]. But you don't really know until you look at the ballots," he says. Likewise, he says, if there are more ballots that look like they belonged to Al Gore, it could lead to finding ways to avoid mistaken outcomes in the future. The Herald started its project mid-December and is looking at 60,000 ballots considered undervotes - those where the presidential choice couldn't be determined. The consortium is looking at all 180,000 uncounted votes, including the overvotes, where more than one candidate was selected. Critics were initially concerned that reporters, with their own political leanings, would be examining the ballots - but that's not allowed under Florida law. Both groups are using outside organizations, who themselves don't touch the ballots, but watch as designated election officials do. The Herald and USA Today are being represented by BDO Seidman, an accounting firm, and the consortium is using the National Opinion Research Center, a nonprofit survey-research organization affiliated with the University of Chicago. NORC will provide the members of its group with raw data, and the news organizations will analyze it separately. The Herald declined to join the consortium because of disagreements over methodology, and because it wanted to get credit for work that will likely affect readers in its own backyard. That may work to the public's advantage. With more than one group weighing in, "you get a lot closer to an authoritative answer," notes Mr. Rosenstiel. He explains that the reason people were comfortable with the final outcome of the election is because in the month leading up to it the process was made transparent by the press. Seibel agrees. "The more the merrier because maybe there's something we've overlooked," he says, adding, "In the end, because two groups looked at it, we'll know more." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's
[CTRL] Fw: CONGRESS ACTION: January 14, 2001
-Original Message-From: Kim Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Undisclosed-Recipient:;Date: Saturday, January 13, 2001 5:23 PMSubject: CONGRESS ACTION: January 14, 2001 CONGRESS ACTION: January 14, 2001 = VAST LEFT-WING CONSPIRACY: The pretensions of the extremist left (which now includes virtually the entire Democrat Party) to diversity and compassion are proven to be nothing but obscene jokes. By giving shelter to an abused woman who was an illegal alien, Linda Chavez actually practiced the compassion that the left preaches, and was demonized by compassionate leftists for doing so. Sanctimonious leftists believe that compassion is the business of government alone (using other people's money, of course). The socialist left has turned its venom on Interior nominee Gale Norton, for the unforgivable sin of understanding the importance of private property rights to the preservation of freedom. The Founders of this nation also understood that importance, along with every other non-Marxist economist and political thinker throughout history, and the Founders protected private property rights in our Bill of Rights. But anyone who defends private property rights, and thereby the Constitution and freedom, is on the fringe and outside the mainstream, according to the socialist left, and is to be demonized and destroyed. Does there remain any doubt that the radical environmental movement is the home of unreformed socialists disillusioned by the collapse of their fallen icon, the Soviet Union? Then there is John Ashcroft, attacked by the left as a racist for having voted against a black Clinton judicial nominee. To left-wing extremists, there is not a single solitary reason to ever vote against a judge who is black -- except racism. Which therefore makes every Senate democrat who voted against Clarence Thomas a racist. But the democrats are the ones who demanded confirmation based solely on skin color, so who are the real bigots? Ashcroft's record of honorable public service puts the lie to the racism charge, and his enemies know it. The real reason he has incurred the wrath of that unprecedented coalition of left-wing extremist groups is that he is devoutly religious and moral. Religious tests for public office were ended in this nation centuries ago -- but not in the totalitarian and hate-filled world of the left, where one must act, think, and believe in lock-step with the amoral religious left, or one is vilified. The left also impugns Ashcroft's honor by claiming that he might not enforce the laws. Because they are without honor, and circumventing the law is standard practice with them, many leftists assume that everyone is as corrupt as they are. What they really fear, however, is that Ashcroft in fact will enforce the laws, evenhandedly and vigorously. These hysterical assaults not only prove, again, the truly dishonorable character of the left; they prove the folly of Trent Lott's attempt to buy peace by sharing Senate power with democrats, whose only goal is to destroy conservatives. Appeasement by pre-emptive surrender only emboldens your enemies. INDICT CLINTON?: The punditry is swirling with speculation about whether Bill Clinton will be indicted when he leaves office. Clinton's impeachment defenders certainly invited such an indictment, claiming that the legal system alone was the proper venue to punish Clinton's official wrongdoing, and then only after he leaves office. Of course they weren't really serious. They just said that during impeachment because, at the time, it allowed them to assume a phony moralistic stance while defending the indefensible. Hypocrisy and unceasing defense of Bill Clinton can be expected from democrats and other leftists, but pragmatic republicans have also joined the pardon Bill camp. They all mouth the appropriate abstract principles -- no man is above the law, we are a nation of laws and not men -- but then jettisons those principles and suggests that it is time, in the immortal phrase of the Clintonoids, to just move on. Senator Orrin Hatch -- It's time to let President Clinton fade into whatever he's going to fade into, and I just don't see keeping it alive any longer. Sorry, Senator Hatch, Bill Clinton isn't fading away to anywhere; on the contrary, he is engaged in a vigorous effort to rewrite history to prove that he never did anything wrong and that republicans should apologize to him for impeachment; all the while questioning Bush's legitimacy and issuing a blizzard of executive decrees designed to undermine the Bush administration. Congressman Henry Hyde, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee during impeachment -- The president has had his trial, and it is over, and to follow up with an indictment and put the president on trial would diminish the institution of the presidency and the nation in the eyes of the world. Sorry, Congressman Hyde, there
Re: [CTRL] HUNDREDS SEE 'JESUS' ON MUSLIM'S HOUSE
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was one of those faithful. I walked all the way from Australia to kneel before the Holy Toast. The Holy Toast heeled my aching feet. It was a fucking miracle! I would opine that your walking ALL the way from Australia to Texas 'twas more the miracle than your feet not hurting... ;-) I don't eat toast anymore. Too Catholic. In the name of The Bagel, The Scone, and The Holy Toast, go in Pizza, my son... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] New BSE inquiry raises fears over milk safety
-Caveat Lector- Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/15/2001 1:32:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The majority of the 1m or so animals thought to have entered the human food chain while infected with BSE were dairy cows, whose milk would have been consumed for years before they died. It's alarming to think that the cow in Italy that just was found to be infected with BSE was a four year old dairy cow. Prudy I think that it is really alarming that plants can become resistant to pesticides and herbicides yet carry those chemicals to cows and humans. Seems as if the main problem from meat would be if the animal were given inoculations too close to slaughter time, or be sick and unfit to slaughter. That could not happen though because to slaughter an sick animal or one that has just been inoculated is illegal - isn't it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/ -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [CCNN] 54 Socialists in the United States Congress
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Howard Rothenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.fan.rush-lim Date: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:00 PM Subject: [CCNN] 54 Socialists in the United States Congress 54 Socialists are in the United States Congress The Chuck Morse Show Boston's Radio VOICE of REASON. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 54 Socialists are in the United States Congress This Republic honors the right to free speech, expression, and association. These rights, the hallmark of a free society, are protected through time honored Constitutional guarantees. An American citizen is free, for example, to be a Socialist, a Communist, a Nazi, a member of the KKK, or a member of any group, as long as he obeys the law and doesn't act in a manner that would threaten the freedom, safety, and liberty of his fellow citizens. This principle is the foundation as well as the price of freedom. Congressmen, however, swear on a Bible to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. They are elected and compensated to fulfill that sacred oath both in letter and in spirit. Affiliation, therefore, with an organization that advocates a political system that blatantly contradicts the Constitution, while not illegal per se, has the effect of eroding faith and trust in our government, society, and the rule of law. A Congressmen who affiliates with an International Socialist organization is really no different, in this regard, than a Congressmen who, theoretically, would join an organization that advocates a Monarchy, or a government based on laws of racial supremacy. The Democratic Socialists of America, the organization in question, advocates an authoritarian political system that is antithetical to American Constitutional principals. This poses a major contradiction for an elected Congressmen who also happens to be a member of such an organization. There are, presently, 54 Congressmen who are members of the Democratic Socialists of America which bills itself as the largest organization in America to be affiliated with the Socialist International. These Congressmen represent the extreme political left of the Democratic Party. This is, lets be clear, not comparable to participation in the old left, Stalinist apparatus which, during the Franklin D. Roosevelt Administration in the1930's and 1940's, set up secret Communist cells who were spying for the Kremlin. A Congressman who is a member of an organization like the DSA has, again, done nothing illegal per se. However, he nonetheless signs onto, witting or otherwise, a political philosophy and methodology that is un-Constitutional and, therefore, un-American. While the purpose of this article is not to impugn the patriotism of these Congressmen, and while they, no doubt, sincerely believe that their international authoritarian faith is pro-American, they, nonetheless, should be identified and their record and actions studied and scrutinized. Following is a list of Congressmen who are presently members of the Democratic Socialists of America: Bernard Sanders-VT, Chair, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cynthia A. McKinney-GA, Co-Chair, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter DeFazio-OR, Co-Chair, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Hinchey-NY,Co-Chair, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Major Owens-NY.Co-Chair, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nydia M. Velazquez-NY, http://www.house.gov/velazquez/ Lane Evans-IL, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maxine Waters-CA, http://www.house.gov/waters/ Earl Hilliard-AL, http://www.house.gov/hilliard/ Eni Faleomavaega-AL, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ed Pastor-AZ, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lynn C. Woolsey-CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] George Miller-CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nancy Pelosi-CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fortney "Pete" Stark-CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henry A. Waxman-CA, http://www.house.gov/waxman/ Xavier Becerra-CA, http://www.house.gov/becerra/ Julian C. Dixon-CA, http://congress.org/congdir.html Esteban Edward Torres-CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] George E. Brown-CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Filner-CA, http://www.house.gov/filner/ Diane DeGette-CO, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corrine Brown-FL, http://www.house.gov/corrinebrown/ Carrie P. Meek-FL, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alcee L. Hastings-FL, [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Lewis-GA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neil Abercrombie-HI, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patsy Mink-HI, http://www.house.gov/mink/ Luis Gutierrez-IL, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Danny Davis-IL, http://www.house.gov/davis/ Julia Carson-IN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Olver-MA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim McGovern-MA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barney Frank-MA, http://www.house.gov/frank/ John Tierney-MA, http://www.house.gov/tierney/ David Bonior-MI, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lynn N. Rivers-MI, [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Conyers-MI,
[CTRL] Fw: [CCNN] BIGOTS VS. ASHCROFT
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Howard Rothenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Undisclosed recipients: ; Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:16 PM Subject: [CCNN] BIGOTS VS. ASHCROFT Washington Bulletin: National Review's Internet Update for January 16, 2001 http://www.nationalreview.com By John J. Miller and Ramesh Ponnuru BIGOTS VS. ASHCROFT A legal reporter smears the A.G. nominee. Legal Times scribe Tony Mauro wants to know: "Can a deeply religious person be attorney general?" What an interesting question! And what a bigoted one! Yet Mauro asks it anyway, in a USA Today op-ed. Mauro continues: "If Ashcroft's view [that 'we have no king but Jesus'] leads him to think that ours is a Christian nation, or that only Christians have the right answers to the nation's problems, then indeed his vision is too narrow to take the job of attorney general." It is worth noting that Mauro provides no evidence that Ashcroft does in fact think these things. He merely suspects that there's a chance Ashcroft does, and therefore "the Senate needs to explore these questions fully, even if it necessitates an intrusion into the usually private domain of a person's religious beliefs." Yesterday on NRO, Michael Novak noted the long conservative tradition of making a distinction between law and morality. He also pointed out that liberals "demand a religious test for public office, and the test they propose is simple: No one in public office is allowed to take religion seriously, or to apply it to reality, or to allow it to shape their views. The upshot of this test is that all officers of the government of the United States ought to be effective or practical atheists." (The entire commentary may be read at: http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment011501a.shtml .) It is difficult to imagine Mauro asking his question if Ashcroft were Catholic or Jewish. Let's see how he might formulate it: "Can a profoundly Catholic person be attorney general?" Or: "Can a committed Jewish person be attorney general?" We wonder if the editors at USA Today would entertain these sorts of doubts. PARDON ME If President Clinton is indicted, 49 percent of the public believes it would be a "good thing" to pardon him, versus 38 percent thinking it would be a "bad thing," according to a Newsweek poll. But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood." Ezekiel 33:6 (NIV) -- In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml Under Bill s.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th U.S. Congress this letter cannot be considered "spam" as long as it includes: 1) contact information and, 2) the way to be removed from future mailings --- To unsubscribe send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] How the Democrats made loving Dixie a hate crime
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] How the Democrats made loving Dixie a hate crime Robert Stacy McCain When he was the governor of Arkansas only two decades ago, Bill Clinton routinely issued proclamations, with the usual rhetorical flourishes, commemorating the birthdays of Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis. So did the governors of other states once part of the Confederacy, and tributes to Southern valor and courage in the service of "the Lost Cause" were no more controversial than proclamations of Mother's Day, Thanksgiving and the Fourth of July. But such tributes to Confederate heritage held in reverence by millions of Southerners and other Americans are now political dynamite. Two of President-elect George W. Bush's Cabinet nominees are under attack this week, not only for their stance on policy issues, but for sympathetic remarks toward the Confederacy. In recent years, opponents have made a political issue of the Confederate battle flag. The familiar St. Andrew's Cross in red, white and blue was for decades an artifact of amiable tourist kitsch, displayed on shelves beside pecan rolls, corncob pipes and plastic alligators in gift shops and restaurants along highways to Florida, the Mississippi coast and other Dixie resorts. Long-haired motorcyclists displayed the Confederate colors to proclaim their rebellion against "square" society. In the 1970s, Southern rock group Lynyrd Skynyrd toured the nation, taking the stage lavished with an enormous Confederate battle flag backdrop, while TV's "Dukes of Hazzard" showcased Bo and Luke Duke as they raced down country roads in their souped-up Dodge Charger, nicknamed "General Lee," with the flag emblazoned on its roof. "Back as late as 1986, nobody complained about Confederate symbols at all," recalls P. Charles Lunsford, president of the Heritage Preservation Association, an Atlanta group that defends Confederate history. So how and why has it become a hate crime to whistle "Dixie"? "I think it represents a hole in our education," says Walter E. Williams, chairman of the economics department at Virginia's George Mason University and a nationally syndicated columnist who writes frequently on race and politics. He blames "political opportunism" for the crusade against Confederate remembrance. "People are associating the War Between the States as solely motivated by slavery," says Mr. Williams, a black scholar who argues that the 1861-1865 conflict "was more of a states' rights issue than a slavery issue." Thomas J. DiLorenzo, an economics professor at Loyola University in Baltimore who has written extensively on Civil War history, agrees. Left-wing groups "insinuate that if someone even mentions the word 'Confederacy,'" he says, "they're somehow secretly in favor of slavery. "It's absolutely crazy. It's an act of desperation on the part of the left." The left is now using the Confederacy as a weapon against Mr. Bush's Cabinet nominees. Opponents of former Sen. John Ashcroft of Missouri, the nominee for attorney general whose Senate confirmation hearing begins today, criticize his 1998 interview in which he praised Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson as "Southern patriots." Gale A. Norton, Mr. Bush's nominee for interior secretary, has drawn fire for a 1996 speech in which she said proponents of states' rights under the 10th Amendment "lost too much" as a result of the defeat of the South in 1865. Chairman Julian Bond of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) says Mrs. Norton's remarks "exhibited a wanton insensitivity toward slavery and its descendants." In the past decade, elements of Southern history represented by symbols such as the Confederate flag and by sentimental songs like "Carry Me Back to Old Virginny" have gone from regional culture to national controversy. In 1993, Carol Moseley-Braun, then a Democratic senator from Illinois, persuaded the U.S. Senate to deny renewal of a patent on the century-old emblem of the United Daughters of the Confederacy. The Confederate flag became a presidential issue in the Republican primary in South Carolina last winter. Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who called the flag "a symbol of racism and slavery," was defeated in that key contest by Mr. Bush, who declined to describe his view of the flag but insisted that South Carolinians had the right to decide whether they should honor the flag and if so, how. Under pressure from an NAACP boycott, South Carolina's Legislature took the flag from its standard above the Statehouse in July. But the NAACP vowed to continue the boycott, upset because the Legislature voted to move the flag to a place of honor at a Confederate monument on the Statehouse grounds. Mr. Bush ordered two plaques commemorating the Confederacy removed from the Texas Supreme Court building in Austin. Mississippi's legislature voted last week to hold a referendum on the Confederate
Re: [CTRL] 54 Socialists in the United States Congress
-Caveat Lector- 54 Socialists are in the United States Congress The entire list is made up of the people who are trying the hardest to take away the second amendment. = Theodor S. Parada, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID 0x537C4815 "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the heart's of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknownest in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic, so that, it, can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague." Marcus Tullius Cicero 42 BC A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] REU: Feds Restrained by Supremes Again
-Caveat Lector- Reuters Supreme Court Limits Federal Regulation of Ponds By James Vicini WASHINGTON, Jan. 9, 2001 (Reuters) - A closely divided U.S. Supreme Court ruled on Tuesday that the federal government lacks the authority under the clean water law to regulate isolated ponds which provide habitat formigrating birds. The high court, by a 5-4 ruling written by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, said the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers overstepped its authority in asserting regulatory jurisdiction in such cases. Although the case raised broad constitutional issues about Congress's power to regulate interstate commerce, the justices split along conservative and liberal lines in deciding the dispute on statutory grounds involving the reach of the clean water law that dates back nearly 30 years. It marked the latest in a series of rulings in the past several years by the conservative-controlled high court that have limited the reach of federal laws while expanding the powers of states and local governments. The case involved a group of Illinois municipalities that argued the Corps of Engineers lacked the authority to keep them from building a landfill on a site in Cook County. The Solid Waste Agency of Northern Cook County, a consortium of 23 municipalities, decided during the 1980s to build a solid-waste landfill on a 533-acre site straddling Cook County, where Chicago is located, and Kane County. The site had been a strip mine about 50 years earlier, and areas that once were gravel pits had become a number of small ponds used as seasonal nesting and breeding areas by a variety of migratory birds. The federal Clean Water Act requires a permit from the Corps of Engineers to dispose landfill in ``waters of the United States,'' including lakes, wetlands and ponds. While state and local government agencies reviewed and approved the landfill, the Corps of Engineers rejected the request for a permit. Federal Government Suffers Defeat The ruling represented a major victory for the Illinois municipalities, and a defeat for the federal government. Rehnquist said federal jurisdiction over such ponds would result in a ``significant'' infringement on the states' traditional and primary power over land and water use. He said there was no clear statement from Congress that it intended the law to reach an abandoned sand and gravel pit such as the one at issue in Illinois. He was joined by Justices Sandra Day O'Connor , Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy and Clarence Thomas, all of whom have been advocates of expanded states' rights. Justice John Paul Stevens said in a strongly worded dissent that the court in the ruling ``takes an unfortunate step that needlessly weakens our principal safeguard against toxic water.'' He said the protection of migratory birds has been a well-established federal responsibility. Stevens was joined by the other members of the court's liberal bloc --Justices David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Black Blood
-Caveat Lector- From NEWSMAX.COM Well ... "Western Europe" ... since 1980 ... so much for the American Expeditionary Forces ... and how many MILLIONs of them are there that spent time in some part of the Old World? Eating and drinking and drinking and eating and ... should we be alert to a new syndrome? AER }}Begin Red Cross Takes 'Mad Cow' Precautions NewsMax.com Wires Thursday, Jan. 18, 2001 WASHINGTON (UPI) - The American Red Cross intends to ban blood donations from people who have lived anywhere in Western Europe since 1980 in an effort to shield the blood supply from the human form of "mad cow" disease, USA Today reported Wednesday. "This will have a very serious impact," Red Cross President Bernadine Healy told the newspaper. She estimated a loss of about 6 percent of donors, or 360,000 people. The Red Cross, which collects about half of the nation's blood supply, said it would urge a federal panel this week to make the restrictions apply to all blood- collection agencies. America's Blood Centers, which collects the other half, said the proposal would be devastating. "We would lose 25 percent of New York City's blood supply," said spokeswoman Melissa McMillan. But after watching HIV spread through the blood supply in the 1980s, Red Cross officials would rather err on the side of safety. The brain-destroying disease called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, or vCJD, has killed 88 people in England, one in Ireland and three in France since the mid-1990s. The disease is a human form of mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, which began in the United Kingdom and has spread throughout Europe. Scientists believe that people get vCJD by eating BSE-tainted meat. See more articles about mad cow disease. Copyright 2001 by United Press International. All rights reserved. End{{ AER Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust The libertarian therefore considers one of his prime educational tasks is to spread the demystification and desanctification of the State among its hapless subjects. His task is to demonstrate repeatedly and in depth that not only the emperor but even the "democratic" State has no clothes; that all governments subsist by exploitive rule over the public; and that such rule is the reverse of objective necessity. He strives to show that the existence of taxation and the State necessarily sets up a class division between the exploiting rulers and the exploited ruled. He seeks to show that the task of the court intellectuals who have always supported the State has ever been to weave mystification in order to induce the public to accept State rule and that these intellectuals obtain, in return, a share in the power and pelf extracted by the rulers from their deluded subjects. [[For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto, Murray N. Rothbard, Fox Wilkes, 1973, 1978, p. 25]] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JW: CONFLICT OF INTEREST: ASHCROFT FACES SENATORS IMPLICATED IN CHINAGATE
-Caveat Lector- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 1/17/2001 Press Office 202-646-5172 CONFLICT OF INTEREST: ASHCROFT FACES SENATORS IMPLICATED IN CHINAGATE Kennedy, Torricelli Should be Investigated by an Ashcroft Justice Department Kennedy Took At Least $6,000 from John Huang (Washington, D.C.) Judicial Watch, the non-partisan public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, said today that many of the Senators on the Judicial Committee grilling John Ashcroft have a severe conflict of interest because of their personal involvement in the ongoing Chinagate scandal, which would have to be investigated by an Ashcroft Justice Department. Federal Election Commission records show that John Huang, the accused Chinese spy and Democrat fundraiser, gave at least $6,000 in political donations to Ted Kennedy and at least $2,000 to Robert Torricelli since 1992. Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle also received $5,000 from Huang and Barbara Boxer received $2,000. In addition, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which benefits all Democratic Senators received over $11,000 from Huang. Huang has admitted that all these monies came from illegal overseas accounts through the Lippo Group. According to an U.S. Senate Report, the Lippo Group is alleged to be a front operation for Communist Chinese intelligence. In 1997, Bill Clinton reportedly torpedoed support from Democratic senators for a special counsel to investigate Chinagate by reminding Tom Daschle in an angry late night phone call that the money at issue had benefitted Senate Democrats. Indeed, Huang gave Senate Democrats (and some Republicans) thousands of dollars in illegal contributions. Ted Kennedy, Bob Torricelli and other senators who would face possible investigation by an Ashcroft Justice Department ought to at least recuse themselves from the process, for they have an obvious interest in sabotaging an incoming Attorney General who might actually prosecute them, stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AP: Lawsuit Could Reopen Watergate
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/national/ap396.htm Lawsuit Could Reopen Watergate by SETH HETTENA Associated Press Writer BALTIMORE (AP) -- The Watergate burglary was not an attempt to remove potentially embarrassing photographs of John Dean's future wife from a secretary's desk, despite the claims of convicted conspirator G. Gordon Liddy, the secretary's lawyer said Wednesday in opening statements for a defamation lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by Ida ''Maxie'' Wells, the former secretary for the Democratic National Committee. It seeks $5.1 million from Liddy for claiming that the burglars who broke into DNC headquarters at the Watergate complex were looking for photographs that linked Dean's fiance to a call-girl ring. Wells says Liddy falsely accused her of procuring prostitutes for the DNC in the early 1970s. Her attorney, David Dorsen, said Wednesday that Liddy defamed Wells by repeating the theory about the Watergate break-in that was raised in the book ''Silent Coup.'' Liddy began discussing Wells in speeches after Dean sued Liddy and the authors of that 1991 book over its claim that Dean instigated the Watergate break-in. Dean dropped his case against Liddy last summer. Dean, who was President Nixon's chief White House lawyer, said he would testify and deny the accusations. Dean's wife, Maureen, also is listed as a possible witness for Wells. Other potential witnesses listed by both sides include Watergate figures E. Howard Hunt, Charles Colson and James McCord. Liddy's attorney, John Williams, countered in his opening remarks that Liddy has several sources for his theory about the motive behind the break-in, including a number of books and what Williams said was a historical fact: that one of the burglars had a key to Wells' desk. ''He says what he says because the historical literature will show that Ms. Wells' telephone was being used to contact the call-girl ring,'' Williams said. ''This case is about whether Mr. Liddy can openly discuss another theory of history. ''Nobody can explain why the burglars had a key to her desk and why her desk was broken into.'' Liddy arranged the June 17, 1972, burglary that ultimately led to Nixon's 1974 resignation, and later served four years and four months in prison. The lawsuit contends Liddy has repeatedly, and falsely, claimed the break-in was ordered not to repair a previously installed tap on DNC telephones but to recover photos and phone numbers of Dean's fiancee. According to the lawsuit, Liddy says Dean's fiancee was a member of a call-girl ring. Dean, who cooperated with Watergate prosecutors and served four months in prison, on Tuesday denied being the Watergate mastermind. ''There is not a scintilla of evidence that there was a call-girl ring at the DNC,'' said Dean, who has recently worked as an investment banker in Beverly Hills. Dorsen has noted that Wells later became personal secretary to Carter. ''It defies belief that if there were an active prostitution ring operating out of the DNC in 1971-1972, in which (Wells) played a conspicuous role, no Democratic worker or official came forward to protect President Carter from the political scandal of having as his secretary an alleged former madam, who supposedly pimped for countless Democratic bigwigs,'' Dorsen said in court papers. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF: *Michael Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om