[CTRL] Week Ending: 27 January 2001 / 3 Shevat 5761
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Tzemach News Service - http://www.tzemach.org/fyi A weekly update of news and events regarding the nation and the people of Israel Week Ending: 27 January 2001 / 3 Shevat 5761 Please feel free to forward to a friend or colleague. To subscribe, send a blank e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Though I walk in the midst of trouble, Thou wilt revive me; Thou wilt stretch forth Thy hand against the wrath of my enemies, and Thy right hand will save me." Psalm 138.7 HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS WEEK: :: QUOTE OF THE WEEK :: WAQF CONTINUES TEMPLE MOUNT DESTRUCTION :: SUPREME MOSLEM COUNCIL: TEMPLE STOOD ON TEMPLE MOUNT :: THE MURDERS CONTINUE :: Aba TALKS END WITH NO AGREEMENT :: HEBRON, KIRYAT ARBA TO BE ABANDONED :: PA/PLO SUPPORTS TERRORIST ATTACKS :: BUSH "LOOKING INTO" MOVING EMBASSY :: HAPPY ALIYAH :: NEWS IN THE REGION :: BARAK IS REACHING :: SUGGESTED WEB SITES :: UPCOMING ISRAEL TRIP :: QUOTE OF THE WEEK: "We must reach an agreement with the Palestinians, even at the expense of tearing the nation apart and a split. Unity is a recipe for no decision." Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami, on the eve of the talks last Sunday in Egypt's Taba resort in Sinai :: WAQF CONTINUES TEMPLE MOUNT DESTRUCTION: Desecration of the Temple Mount by the Moslem Waqf continues, with the permission of Prime Minister Barak -- although he maintains that he has issued an order to stop it. Archaeologist Dr. Gabi Barkai, of the Committee to Prevent Destruction on the Temple Mount, told ARUTZ-7 that over the course of this past Sabbath [Jan 20], "We received reports that a tractor worked throughout the Sabbath, and that a 50-meter [55 yards] long trench was dug leading out of the southern entrance of the Dome of the Rock. This is a tremendous violation of the status quo -- the ancient floor, which has not been touched for hundreds of years, has been dug up. All the earthmoving works that the Waqf has carried out until now were on the southern and southeastern areas of the Mount, which are a bit lower down, but yesterday for the first time they started digging up the upper level of the Temple Mount -- where the Holy Temple itself stood, according to all archaeologists and rabbis." Last week, Prime Minister Barak issued permits for Waqf construction on the Mount, against the recommendations of Attorney-General Elyakim Rubenstein, the police, and the Antiquities Authority. Barak said last Sunday that he had ordered Public Security Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami to close off the entrance through which the Waqf equipment enters the Mount. Dr. Barkai said, "This is simply not true -- all the works have been done, as far as we know, with his approval Heavy equipment and trucks are going in and out of the northern gates around the Mount, and 150 tons of dirt have been removed in the past weeks." HA'ARETZ reported that the Waqf had announced that it would halt all construction on the Mount on Sunday. Fresh eye-witness accounts indicate the Muslim Waqf has added a new tunnel accessing the ancient Hulda Gates corridor to its growing list of "archaeological crimes" on the Temple Mount. The tunnel reportedly runs underground from below the Al Aqsa mosque to the Hulda Gates area, which dates back to the Second Temple era. Although Israeli police denied the reports, journalists and others who saw the new tunnel first-hand said it includes electric lighting and an observation pit with an iron grille in the floor through which can be seen remnants of an old floor. :: SUPREME MOSLEM COUNCIL: TEMPLE STOOD ON TEMPLE MOUNT: Although the most recent Moslem "spin" is that there is no Jewish connection to the Temple Mount, the Supreme Moslem Council in Jerusalem wrote in 1930 that the site's identification with the First Temple is "beyond dispute." Etgar Lefkovits wrote in THE JERUSALEM POST Friday that the Council -- the supreme Moslem body appointed by the British to administer Moslem and Waqf affairs in mandatory Palestine -- published an English-language tourist guide that states, "The site is one of the oldest in the world. Its sanctity dates from the earliest times. Its identity with the site of Solomon's Temple is beyond dispute. This, too, is the spot, according to universal belief, on which David built there an altar unto the Lord, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings." The PA/PLO Mufti Ikrima Sabri on Friday denied the report stating it was taken out of context. Sabri says the entire area, including the Western Wall, belongs to Islam. He denies that there ever was a Temple there and says the Jews have no historic connection to Jerusalem. :: THE MURDERS CONTINUE: In the latest instance of Israelis being brutally murdered in Palestinian areas, masked Arab gunmen grabbed two owners of a Tel Aviv restaurant who were shopping in PA/PLO-controlled Tulkarm on Tuesday
[CTRL] DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER 31 January 2001 Part 3
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! ARTICLE 8 ~~ Air Force: Desert Storm - My War Too ~~ Ed: Interesting account from a guy behind the scenes. A reminder, that it takes all kinds of skilled troops to move our armadas to perform their combat mission. THANK YOU to all you dedicated folks behind the scenes that make things happen from the Zman. * By John E. Booth My Desert Shield/Storm experience was in the USAF, starting in Alaska with the Alaskan Air Command asking for, and then denying, volunteers for the buildup. It was due, they said, to duty commitments within the Alaskan Theatre (somebody, so the scuttlebutt went, was worried our new found buddies in Russia or CHICOM's might be brazen enough to jump our ass or to pull something stupid while we were focused on other issues). I had heard (mind you we were in the midst of the coldest winter on record at the time) that over 3,000 USAF folks volunteered. I PCS'd to the UK during the startup of the conflict, and began my introduction to 96 hour shifts, moving 300 aircraft (150 every 6 hours) every 12 hours. I still cannot fathom how the hell we managed it even to this day. There was a "pipeline" of planes (mostly C130's) from Gander, to Iceland, through Shanwick, to us, then downward through (initially) France and onward, eventually retracing their paths backwards. My main job in life was what we call diplomatic clearances, ensuring the flight plan, personnel, equipment, food, (wounded personnel on the return trip), and aircraft were properly documented, signed, sealed, and then, if (very big if) the French ATC controllers weren't on their normal unannounced strikes, delivered at exactly 5 minutes prior to, and no later than, 5 minutes after their "slot times". No acknowledgement from the French, you don't fly. Period. You blow your times, too bad. To put this in better perspective, the official International Civil Aviation Organization publications that deal with this issue covers every signatory on the planet (kind of like the UN, or NATO). The average amount of pages (rules restrictions, do's and don'ts' to get through each countries airspace and avoid an "international incident") devoted per country run normally about 5 to 6 pages. France? Well, let's just say anywhere from 75 to 80 pages. I had to work clearances for every country these aircraft passed through, and then bring them all back the same way, working yet an entirely new set of clearances for the return leg. One clearance per airplane. I was one typing, calling, transmitting, receiving, posting, distributing, and briefing fool. Most aircrews were realistic about the process. One incident that comes to mind involved a flight of Portuguese A4's. They refused to wait for clearances, took off without approval (fully armed and fueled), and got stuck in the racetrack by the French (circling over the Channel). Back they came 6 hours later, on fumes. Naturally, let's blame the Base Ops guy where he took off from (oh yes, that's me). Needless to say, they were pissed... As far as Iraq is concerned, we need to stop playing around with this piss ant and squash his ass, Patton style. I'm growing weary of our PC environment (oops, let's not piss off our Middle East "friends" or violate some political agenda). Do you think we're suffering from security paranoia? I was on Okinawa for three years (97 - 00), and I feel the security issues are handled with way too much crisis management. If folks were prepared all year long, and followed the basic guidelines like they're supposed to do in the first place, we wouldn't be playing the "failure to plan on my part constitutes an emergency on your part" game. == ARTICLE 9 The LAV - Can it Roll-On and Off a C130 Combat Ready? Ed.: Interesting insight from people who attended some trials...maybe a bit of false advertising? Standing by for comments. * Multiple Sources The Interim Brigades are supposed to be equipped with a C-130 deployable vehicle, capable of rolling of the aircraft in combat ready configuration. The following info may provide more insights: * If we want to use C-130s, it probably implies that we plan to use some sort of Forward Landing Strips (dirt, unimproved, poorly paved, etc.) * USAF's answer to max ACL for C-130 ops on a FLS is 32,000 pounds (16 tons). The improved surface runway ACL is something like 42,000 pounds. The last time the USAF waived this restriction was Desert Storm, and then only for very limited reasons. It is believed that they are currently using these restrictions in the Balkans. * If a LAV, empty, weighs 19 tons, how can it land on a FLS with fuel,
[CTRL] DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER 31 January 2001 Part 1
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! SOLDIERS FOR THE TRUTH (SFTT) NEWSLETTER - PASS THE WORD! 31 January 2001 - "Give the Troops a Chance and continue the Mission" "When we assumed the Soldier, we did not lay aside the Citizen." General George Washington, New York Legislature, 1775 "In war, Resolution; in defeat, Defiance; in victory, Magnanimity; in peace, Goodwill." Winston Churchill Soldiers For The Truth Foundation, PO Box 63840, Colorado Springs, CO 80962-3840 HTTP://WWW.SFTT.ORG Note: This Newsletter contains articles and editorial comments that are copyrighted to SFTT and require the Chief Editor's or author specific authorization before further dissemination. *** TABLE OF CONTENTS: SITREP from the President "Through Zman's Gun Sight" Give'em a Chance and Continue Mission HACK's Target for the Week: Basics Before Bells Whistles The Big Picture: Article 1 - Marines cede Control of Osprey Probe Article 2 -- Pentagon Lacks Iraq Arms Evidence Article 3 -- U.S. Forces placed on Alert -- Patriot Anti-missile Battery deployed to Israel Voice of the Grunt: Article 4 - Desert Storm Remembered Article 5 - Senior Leader Corruption at the Root of our Military in Crisis Article 6 -- "Join the People who Joined the Army" Article 7 -- Pointers for the New Prez Article 8 -- Air Force: Desert Storm - My War Too Article 9 - The LAV - Can it Roll-On and Off a C130 Combat Ready? Article 10 - Rules Of Engagement -- ROE Article 11 - Everybody should be a Trained Rifleman Article 12 - Troop Health: Keesler Doctor awaits Ruling in Anthrax Case G.I Humor: Article 13 -- GI HUMOR - Keep the Loser, as long He's on the Other Team Medal of Honor: Article 14 -- DIX, DREW DENNIS, Vietnam 1968 SITREP: A. Main topics: 1) Military reporting 2) Desert Storm 3) Training and Equipment 4) ROE 5) Anthrax B. HOT BUTTONS: Again, thanks for all the info you're sending. Tour notes are our direct line to the front. With them, you're making a Difference. * Questions/Info requests for next week: (1) What do you think about the Depleted Uranium controversy? Do you think someone is covering up? (2) Please keep sending in your personal Desert Storm or other combat accounts. (3) I need more feedback for my Sergeants' Corner - remember, this is you chance to sound off! * WE NEED YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND EVERY DOLLAR MAKES A DIFFERENCE. Despite many "nay-sayers," we made it through last year and we're growing. Please continue to support us so we can get on the map and rent us a full time, small-office space with administrative support in 2001. We also want to be able to buy radio time to hit the airwaves more aggressively. And once again THANK YOU to all you SFTT warriors who are sending bucks for fuel ammo and beans. !!! Feel free to send me hot topics directly if you can't get through the admin/log net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] C. The WEBPAGE. Webmaster, John Cloven is continually working on improving the site. Thanks for your feedback. John is also available to other commercial web designs if you need any help!!! !!! Beta Testers Needed. The web master would appreciate it if our readers could take a look at the new site design he is working on and give him some feedback at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The new page can be found at http://www.sftt.org/development. This test consists of only three or four pages. PLEASE DO NOT REPORT DEAD LINKS. Depending on the volume of responses, he will try to respond personally to any comments received. D. Your donations are helping us to get the word out. Thanks for supporting an organization that stands for the Truth, even if it questions the rules of political correctness. E. Keep the mail coming!!! We won't reveal your true identity unless you give us your approval. We know how vindictive the "system" is. F. How You can help: !!! Credit Card donation via our WEBSITE at www.sftt.org. !!! If you think we HIT a target, forward the newsletter to TV, radio and your local papers. YOU are the frontline recruiters and intel gatherers for SFTT. Check or Money order: Send to and make payable to: Soldiers For The Truth Foundation, PO Box 63840, Colorado Springs, CO 80962-3840. Important: Your donation is tax deductible! SFTT is a 501 (c) 3 non-profit educational foundation, IRS # 31-1592564. If you send us an E-MAIL address with your donation we can immediately mail you a RECEIPT. Multiple contributions: Please remind us when you submit your donation. We will send you a cumulative statement. Prepare for Action -- "Crew Ready! -- LOAD SABOT - DRIVER MOVE OUT!" R.W. Zimmermann President SFTT [EMAIL PROTECTED] === "Through Zman's Gun Sight" ~~ Give'em a Chance and Continue Mission ~~ By R.W. (Zimm) Zimmermann President Soldiers For The Truth 01/29/01 Army Tank Mistakenly Opens
[CTRL] DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER 31 January 2001 Part 2
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! ARTICLE 3 ~ U.S. Forces placed on Alert -- Patriot Anti-missile Battery deployed to Israel ~ Ed.: Signal for a real crisis or overreaction? From: Middle East Newsline SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM -- January 26, 2001 *** WASHINGTON - The United States has sent a Patriot anti-missile defense battery to Israel amid heightened concerns of a Middle East war. Pentagon sources said the heightened tension in the Middle East prompted a decision to place on alert U.S. forces in Germany and Italy. They said Washington has been concerned about an Iraqi attack on Israel amid reports that several Iraqi divisions have moved close to the Syrian border. The San Antonio Express-News published a copy of a U.S. military order that on Jan. 11 raised the alert status of U.S. forces from Threatcon Bravo to Alpha. Alpha is a heightened alert of a terrorist attack. "Recent intelligence indicates that an increased or more predictable threat exists, thus warranting the Threatcon change," the U.S. military order read. Pentagon officials said the Patriot missile brigade will participate in an exercise in Israel scheduled for Feb. 8. The exercise will last 15 days. The exercise, called "Juniper Cobra," will include about 400 members of the 69th Air Defense Artillery Brigade based near Frankfurt, Germany. A Patriot missile battery and personnel are expected to arrive by ship on Feb. 4 and join Patriot batteries already deployed in the Jewish state. "It is a training event to sustain interoperability between the U.S. Army and the Israeli defense forces," U.S. Army spokesman Maj. Tom Collins said. In December, Lockheed Martin was awarded a $212 million contract to produce an upgraded Patriot. === ARTICLE 4 Desert Storm Remembered Ed.: More Desert Storm observations, one from the enlisted, another from the officer perspective. I invite more input from other "Desert Stormers" out there. Jimmy Duncan, formerly 82nd Airborne I could not agree more with your Desert Storm comments. America has the image of the 82nd Airborne at KKMC with clean uniforms and a-rations everyday, and Stormin Norman as almost a Napoleonic figure. In reality most of us were so far out in the Desert that it was unbelievable. I recall at 1st Brigade operations center where we ate MRE's for the first 71 days after arrival and then finally receiving some hot rations, once a week thereafter. We had ONE set of desert camouflage and I remember no desert boots. My commo shop had one tent and my Major and a Master Sergeant took it for themselves. So much for leading by example! I and all the other guys slept on the desert floor. We were given a new uniform to come home in -- just to look mean and combat ready. And did not Stormin Norman raise hell with General Franks for not keeping his Division on the move throughout the second night of the War? I do not know if this was good or bad, but Franks retired with 4 Stars, didn't he? And another thing about Desert Storm was the awards game...I got 2 ARCOMS but I know plenty of people who did not do anything and got Bronze Stars. I believe the majority of casualties was from friendly fire. And one more thing, Dick Cheney and George Bush Sr. started the draw down before the war and the base closings! Maybe we shouldn't celebrate the new guys too early. --- Still Fighting Desert Storm By Gary R. Stahlhut, Gulf War Vet Ten years ago, the air attacks on Iraq had begun and I was preparing my soldiers for the invasion of Iraq that was to follow. 4 1/2 weeks later we were 80 miles from Baghdad and were given the order to halt. Later that night a Reuters reporter was escorted into my command post (escorted by an Army public affairs officer) to talk with us and see how we felt about not attacking all the way to Baghdad. He asked me when I knew that Iraq had lost the war and what we should do now that Iraq was beaten. I told him that Iraq lost the war in the first 6 hours when they could not stop us from systematically destroying the infrastructure of the country from the air. I was also very candid about how we felt when we were told to stop. Here are my exact words: "Now that the Iraqi Republican Guard has been defeated, we need to keep going and occupy Baghdad. We need to hold a victory parade in Baghdad to show the Iraqis and any Arabs who support Saddam Hussein, that Saddam is defeated. If we don't do this, Saddam will look like he held off the world and will stay in power, and we will be screwing with this guy for the
[CTRL] RIVERA: CLINTON'S PARDONING OF MARC RICH
-Caveat Lector- [Alan Dershowitz has been Marc Rich's lawyer in the past, and, the check the last statement ... we taxpayers are indeed going to be providing living quarters in that 8,500 Sq. Ft. "office" on 57th street for Bill. --MS] CNBC News Transcripts SHOW: RIVERA LIVE (9:00 PM ET) January 30, 2001, Tuesday LENGTH: 1992 words HEADLINE: CLINTON'S PARDONING OF MARC RICH ANCHORS: GERALDO RIVERA REPORTERS: PETE WILLIAMS BODY: Representative DAN BURTON (Republican, Government Reform Chairman): (From "The News with Brian Williams"; MSNBC) That Marc Rich should never have been pardoned. The Democrats, when they were in control of the House back in the early '90s, were investigating--they--they even sent people over to investigate into Switzerland. They said he should have been brought back to stand trial. The man was involved in trading with Iran when we had our hostages held over there during the Carter administration. He evaded taxes--$ 48 million in income taxes. He's on the six most wanted list of international criminals, and for Bill Clinton to pardon him is just unbelievable. Whether or not Hillary Clinton had any--anything to do with the pardon I don't know. But it certainly should not have happened. GERALDO RIVERA, host: very time I see Dan Burton, he gives me the willies. I can't... Mr. CHRIS DARDEN (Former Prosecutor): Yeah, me too. RIVERA: I can't get over the image of him shooting that melon in his back yard to prove that the--Hillary's friend--What was his name? The White House aide who killed himself? Professor ALAN DERSHOWITZ (Law Professor, Harvard University): Foster. Foster. RIVERA: Who is it? Prof. DERSHOWITZ: Vince Foster. Mr. DAN PETROCELLI (Trial Attorney): Vince Foster, right. RIVERA: That he was--it really was murder, not a--he's a card-carrying Clinton hater, Congressman Burton is. He can't let go of the ex-president. But let's face it, ladies and gentlemen, whether you love the guy or hate the guy, Bill Clinton certainly handed all of his longtime enemies a whole batch of new ammunition on his very last day in office. The outgoing 42nd president's 11th hour pardon of fugitive financier Marc Rich continues to draw incredible heat, much of it deserved, with some on Capitol Hill now calling for hearings into the matter. I don't know about that. But there are certainly questions, and as NBC's Pete Williams reports, the controversy over this one pardon is raising questions about the constitutional power that allowed it to be granted in the first place. PETE WILLIAMS reporting: It's not the picture of the usual applicant for a pardon, a multimillionaire living in exile in Switzerland hitting the ski slopes. But Marc Rich, an international fugitive, got his pardon with just a few hours left in the Clinton presidency, the 17-year-old criminal charges now dropped of skirting oil price controls to evade nearly $ 50 million in federal taxes and to illegally buying oil from Iran while it was holding Americans hostage. Mr. Clinton's pardon stunned federal prosecutors, and some Republicans in Congress are calling for hearings, troubled by disclosures that Rich's ex-wife, who joined in calling for the pardon, has given nearly a million dollars to Democratic causes. But President Bush says while he finds it troubling, he'll do nothing to challenge the last-minute pardon by Mr. Clinton. President GEORGE W. BUSH: He had the right to do so, to make that decision, and he did, and I'm going to protect that privilege not only for me but for future presidents as well. WILLIAMS: The pardon power comes directly from the Constitution. For any federal crime, the president can forgive anyone completely or shorten the prison sentence. While most pardons are given to people after they've served time and turned their lives around, a pardon can come anytime after a crime is committed, even before indictment or trial, as, for example, when President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon for Watergate. Constitutional scholars say it's one of the rare powers that's the president's alone, with no checks or balances. Professor IRA ROBBINS (American University Law School): When the president issues a pardon, it is according to his sole discretion. There aren't any standards for it; there isn't any review of it. WILLIAMS: A power as old as the republic, now prompting new questions about whether to rein it in. Pete Williams, NBC News, Washington. RIVERA: Pete, thanks. Professor Alan Dershowitz, I know and we state for the record that I--at some level and for some matters you represented Marc Rich at some time, nothing to having to do with the pardon. Prof. DERSHOWITZ: Right. RIVERA: But here's the legal question I pose to you. In this country, if you have a private country club, you can accept or reject a member absolutely. You have absolutely no limits as long as your reasons are legal, and they're not because of race, color, creed or religion. Is th--is that what a pardon is? Can a president do it
[CTRL] Fwd: Waiting For Sharon
___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! * * * * * * * IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In just four days now, Retired General and accused war criminal Ariel Sharon becomes the Prime Minister of the Jewish State of Israel: WAITING FOR SHARON By Graham Usher* "They believe a Sharon victory will be a boon for their cause. 'He will expose the true face of Israel,' says an activist in Yasir Arafat's Fatah movement in Nablus, 'and force the world, including the US, to address its real responsibilities to the peace process... The difference in the appraisal of a Sharon victory is not the only rift between the leaders and the led in Palestinian society." "The Palestinians could hardly be in worse shape to confront the 'Sharon era.' And eighteen years after he was forced to resign from office because of Sabra and Shatila -- and 16 to 20 points ahead in the polls -- Sharon could hardly be in better shape." [Ramallah and Gaza]: Among Palestinians in the occupied territories, the prospect that Ariel Sharon will be Israel's next prime minister is met with a shrug of the shoulders. The indifference is not from ignorance. Palestinians know well Sharon's history. They have always been the victims of it. Leading the Israeli army's "southern command," Sharon ruthlessly crushed the Palestinian resistance in what was then the newly occupied Gaza Strip in the early 1970s. And of course it was Sharon, as Israel's defense minister, who was held "indirectly responsible" (by an independent Israeli Commission of Inquiry) for the massacre of about 2,000 Palestinians at Beirut's Sabra and Shatila refugee camps during Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon. The commission recommended that Sharon "draw the appropriate personal conclusions" and resign from his post as defense minister. Rather, the Palestinians' apathy is explained by the comparison they make between Sharon and Israel's present prime minister. "By his actions, Ehud Barak has erased any difference between the two men in the Palestinian perception," says Palestinian political leader Mustafa Barghouthi. Four months after Sharon-with Barak's approval-decided to "demonstrate Jewish sovereignty" over the Islamic holy sites in occupied East Jerusalem by making a provocative visit to the Haram al-Sharif, Palestinian losses from Israel's suppression of the "intifada al-Aksa" are beginning to reach Sabra and Shatila proportions. According to Barghouthi's Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees, Palestinian casualties from the Israeli army and settlers now stand at nearly 360 killed and more than 13,000 injured. In addition, according to a UN economist, a military blockade isolating each Palestinian town and village from the other in the occupied territories has caused a 13 percent decline in the Palestinians' GDP and a 50 percent increase in their unemployment and poverty levels. "The vast majority of Palestinians don't see Sharon or Barak. They see an army, with Sharon and Barak as its generals," says Barghouthi. Some Palestinians see more. They believe a Sharon victory will be a boon for their cause. "He will expose the true face of Israel," says Hussam Khader, an activist in Yasir Arafat's Fatah movement in Nablus, "and force the world, including the US, to address its real responsibilities to the peace process." This is not a vision shared by the Palestinian negotiators. Perhaps they are aware that the "world" is never so negligent of its "responsibilities" as when Israel is the culprit, but surely they are concerned that the fall of Barak and rise of Sharon may spell the end not only of what is left of the negotiating process but also their own privileged leadership position within it. This may be why Arafat is warning that Sharon would be a "disaster" for the peace process and would increase the risk of regional war. For most Palestinians -- and a few Israelis -- the recent "intensive talks" between the two sides at the Egyptian resort of Taba were thus seen not as a genuine attempt to seal an agreement, but as a charade to woo back to Barak's fold two Israeli constituencies threatening to abandon him on election day, February 6. These include some elements of the Jewish left, appalled by his excessive response to the Palestinian uprising, and the million or so Palestinian citizens of Israel who remember that it was Barak (and not Sharon) who gave the order that the police shoot
Re: [CTRL] Bones 2000
-Caveat Lector- I see the group is getting more and more co-ed. There are 5 women on the list. Kelly Denit I'm not sure about, and Luca is a man's name, Italian for Luke. Tenorlove Manuel Berrelez Benjamin Blake Luca Borghese Anana Charles Kelly Denit Elaine Dimopoulos Jennifer Heikkila Hrishikesh Hirway Andrew Hongo Ayanna Johnson Mike Kunitake Celine Mizrahi Daphna Renan Kevin Schelenski Christopher Walker __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Alleged ATF Murder Carl Ray Wilson of Ruled Homicide (posted on Free Republic)
-Caveat Lector- Brought to you by the same folks who presented those absolutely dynamic examples of law enforcement at its best, Waco and Ruby Ridge. Tenorlove ~ http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a75aa397377.htm Carl Wilson's Death Ruled Homicide Shot to death in his bed in the middle of the night by ATF by Wayne Hicks and Henrietta Bowman http://freerepublic.com/forum/a3a75aa397377.htm Shot to death in his bed in the middle of the night by ATF The death of 60-year-old Carl Ray Wilson in Arkansas, which we reported on last week, has been officially ruled a "homicide" by the Arkansas State Crime Laboratory. According to the family, the Death Certificate issued this past Friday contains only that word in the space for "Cause of Death". The question remains as to which of three legal classifications the death falls into: Webster's Dictionary defines homicide as "The killing of one human being by another," but continues, "Homicide is of three kinds: justifiable, as when the killing is performed in the exercise of a right or performance of a duty; excusable, as when done, although not as duty or right, yet without culpable or criminal intent; and felonious, or involving what the law terms malice; the latter may be either manslaughter or murder." Which definition would best apply in this case? An examination of the facts known may shed some light on the answer. Here's what we know at this point: 1. At the request of Agent Bill Buford, head of the Arkansas Office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, a Search Warrant was issued by the Honorable J. Thomas Ray, an Arkansas Judge. This warrant, we know now, authorized the ATF to search the home of Carl Ray Wilson for a single rifle and its ammunition, for the purpose of seizing same, on the premise that Wilson, who had been to prison twice in his earlier years, was a convicted felon and therefore forbidden by law to own firearms. We do not know what the judge was told about Mr.Wilson but it's a safe bet that he was not told that this same rifle had been seized. without any trouble from Mr. Wilson. on at least two previous occasions, after which it was returned to Mrs. Wilson, since it was legally registered to her and she was not prohibited from owning a firearm. 2. The warrant was worded in a manner which permitted it to be considered a "no-knock" warrant, meaning that officers of the ATF (and the forty other officers who were there as backup) were authorized to enter without knocking and announcing their identities or intentions. No-knock warrants are usually issued when it is considered likely that the person to be served is either dangerous, or is likely to dispose of evidence before the search can be conducted. It is therefore unlikely that Judge Ray was informed that Mr. Wilson, during his previous encounters with law enforcement, was known as a man who did not resist arrest or other authority. In fact, on many occasions, the local sheriff would merely call him on the telephone to let him know that there was a warrant for his arrest and he would then come to jail on his own. As for the second reason, that evidence might be destroyed or disposed of. how do you flush a deer rifle down a toilet? 3. ATF agents, backed up by local deputies and police SWAT Team members, approached the house in pre-dawn darkness. Six of them are reported to have entered the house, where they reportedly threw a "diversionary device" into the floor. An alarm clock went off at the same moment, and Mrs. Wilson and her niece, the only two witnesses, say shooting began at that moment. Neither witness knows anything about the "diversionary device." They heard the alarm clock and then gunshots. 4. At least six shots were fired through a wall into Carl Wilson's bedroom, at which time, by a reconstruction of events, Mr. Wilson was hit more than once, probably while trying to rise from his bed to reach a .44 Magnum revolver he had in a stereo cabinet near the foot of his bed. Varying reports have him firing from one to four times with that weapon. 5. During the shooting, one officer was struck in the back on his bullet-proof vest. Since it is unlikely he would have had his back to Mr. Wilson in the middle of a shootout, there is reason to speculate that he may well have been hit by "friendly fire". which is nothing new to ATF operations. 6. The only other injury suffered by an officer at the scene was when one of them ducked too quickly to avoid Carl's returned fire and got splinters in his face. An officer who was present at the time has speculated off the record that the splinters were thrown up by a round from Carl's pistol striking the floor, probably from a reflexive tightening of his trigger finger after being shot seven times in total. 7. When the firing stopped, Mrs. Wilson and her niece ran into the
Re: [CTRL] Bones 2000
-Caveat Lector- Tenorlove it is all too obvious that the Bones have formed another secret group and htis is a token list. Cannot believe this list is for real - my guess would be though they have been given a new name by the usual suspects. Half the fun of belonging to a secret society is that it is exclusive - like the sale of perfume - used to like Calvin Klein and Eternity and Escape but when it becomes too popular, I do not want it yet I always loved Eternity. So I have switched to St. John's Camillia which I love - but when everyone starts using this, and it is no longer exclusive - why pay the big price So wonder what the new name is? What is that old biblical line about give someone a stone with their name on it and "I will give you anew name"..like old Hells Fire Club, all were given code names - for they, we the Illuminati of the dayall aristocrats like the Scarlet Pimpernell.remember the French Revolution? Liberty, Fraternity, Equality - took all the fun out of life. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] {OT}Candles: a burning controversy
-Caveat Lector- There are a couple of things that the article didn't mention that you should be aware of: 1. Candles, or any open flame (indoor grill, what have you), should not be used indoors without SOME kind of ventilation: an exhaust fan, an open window (even if only slightly), etc. 2. The biggest danger from candles is not soot, but fire. Never leave a candle unattended, and keep the candles, and whatever you light them with, out of the reach of children and pets. Don't burn them near draperies or upholstery or bedding, or near silk lampshades (this latter is how my friend's house caught on fire). Make sure that your candle is in a proper candleholder, or on a heat-resistant surface, not on a wooden table. If you have those big candles that don't fit in candleholders, put them on a trivet, like you would a hot dish on your dining room table. You can get trivets to match your decor just about anyplace that sells housewares; a ceramic or concrete tile will work, too. Tenorlove __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Letter to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor
-Caveat Lector- Online Journal - http://www.onlinejournal.com 02-02-01: My Letter to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor By PJ McIlvaine Justice O'Connor: According to recent news reports, it's said that you're personally disappointed over the expressions of public outrage fueled by your 5-4 ruling in Bush vs. Gore. You're so disgusted, it's alleged, that you're even thinking of hastening your retirement from the court. I too am disappointed. I'm disappointed that such an august, venerable body as the Supreme Court allowed themselves to be dragged into what was essentially a political wrangle. The public was allowed a rare peek under your black robes and to our collective dismay, discovered that instead of acting as interpreters of the law, you were merely partisans of George W. Bush. Why did I even bother to vote? Never mind that you, Justices Scalia and Thomas should have all recused yourselves because of your ties to the Bush law firm, transition team and admitted bias. Bury the fact that two weeks previous to your December 12th decision, you had already refused to consider Bush's bogus Equal Protection argument. And let's not even mention learned attorneys like Vincent Bugiliosi and Alan Dershowitz and hundreds of law professors and scholars throughout the country who say in their legalese what I knew in my heart the night of December 12th even without reading your "per curious" decision: it sucked. I have a deep, dark confession to make. I had once aspired to be a lawyer. I followed high profile cases like a kid running after an ice cream truck. I read about great attorneys like Clarence Darrow, William Kunstler and F. Lee Bailey and vowed only to defend "innocent people." I loved Atticus Finch. I studied pre-law in college but eventually my love for words was stronger than my love of the law. So it was with special interest that I followed the legal issues raised in the Florida Fiasco and soon enough, all my beliefs about our judicial system went to hell in a handbasket. You see, Justice O'Connor, I was an idealist who thought that the Supreme Court would ultimately rule in favor of having every legal vote count and give the courts in Florida enough time to count them. Boy, was the laugh ever on me. For the first time in our nation's history, the Supreme Court appointed our President. That was shameful enough but apparently, you labored under the notion that the public was going to rise up and nominate you for sainthood for saving us from this manufactured "constitutional crisis." Instead, you're annoyed with us peons who see your ruling for the garbage it is and have the courage to say so. This sorry spectacle is the legacy of the Rehnquist court, and I hope you're proud of yourself as you contemplate retirement in sunny Arizona. The country hasn't been so divided since the Vietnam War, and we have you and your fellow cohorts in crime to thank. I think what infuriates me the most was that your action was so unnecessary. If you had permitted the Florida recount to continue, by that Monday or Tuesday, we would've known who had won. Under Florida procedure, Bush could have then properly contested the results if it had gone against him. If the recount had shown Bush to be the victor, then there would have been no case to argue before you. It would've been resolved and the results accepted, albeit grudgingly. But you and your Bush buddies on the Supreme Court were so frightened that the recount would show that Gore had won and not Bush, you couldn't even take that chance, so you had to issue the stay to stop it while in progress. Worse, when you released your decision, you added insult to injury by remanding it back to the Florida Supreme Court with the admonition to "fix" the constitutional problems but, ooops, sorry, we ran out the clock by issuing the stay, so you can't do it in time. Better still, to properly tie all the loose ends, your decision was good for this case only. No wonder Justices Souter and Breyers reportedly left the court in an infuriated huff. They saw the hurricane on the horizon, even if you couldn't. So in the end we have an illegitimate ruling to go along with our illegitimate President because if logically applied, your decision would effectively overturn ALL elections since there are no "uniform standards." How odd that since your ruling, I've yet to hear of any state legislature taking up the issues you addressed. Obviously, they all feel that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, with one grave exception: when it comes before the Supreme Court in a close Presidential election and your name happens to be Gore. I used to believe that Supreme Court stood for fair play, decency and equality. Silly old idealistic me. I guess I overdosed on Perry Mason re-reruns. Enjoy your retirement, Justice O'Connor. Might I suggest violin lessons? I dissent, PJ McIlvaine PJ McIlvaine is a screenwriter. Her "Annus Horribilis," directed by Eric Stolz and starring Stolz, Mimi Rogers and
Re: [CTRL] Ashcroft-The Artful Dodger
-Caveat Lector- Samantha - no offense, but you are so obvious and should be given the Asshole of the Year Award for Stupidity.you are gross, Sam. Bet you fly the Gay Pride flag but would burn the Confederate and all for which it stands? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Daschle to South Dakota: Drop Dead
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 2/2/01 12:25:32 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, made the following statement: "Senator Daschle's upcoming vote against John Ashcroft is a slap in the face to the people of South Dakota, sixty percent of whom voted for George W. Bush. "The people of Daschle's home state have endorsed the platform of President Bush, and the state Legislature has requested he vote in favor of the president's nominee for U.S. Attorney General. How dumb. The people of Daschle's home state also voted for Daschle. Daschle is under no obligation to vote per the desires of the state legislature. It would be interesting to know how many letters and phone calls his office received from constituents opposed to the nomination compared to those in favor. The voters are the body he has an obligation to listen to. Even so, it is his vote and his coice. Americans for Tax Reform is a non-partisan coalition of taxpayers and taxpayer groups who oppose all federal and state tax increases. For more information or to arrange an interview please contact Chad Cowan at (202)785-0266 or by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Interesting - they have a link on their page entitled "Pedophile Masochists for Gore." And how do they substantiate this header? With this quote: "Democrats understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child." -- Vice President Al Gore How nice to share earth-space with a bunch of sadistic raving lunatics. Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pollitt-No Olive Branch
-Caveat Lector- On 1 Feb 01, at 19:42, William Shannon wrote: On his first full day in office, Bush reinstated the "gag rule" preventing international family-planning clinics and NGOs from receiving US funds if they so much as mention the word "abortion." (This action was widely misrepresented in the press as being a ban on funding for performing abortions; in fact, it bans clinics that get US aid from performing abortions with their own money and prohibits speech--whether lobbying for legal changes in countries where abortion is a crime or informing women with life- or health-threatening pregnancies about their legal options.) Would these same restrictions--re lobbying for change--apply to all these religious/community groups in the US who are going to participate in our new social programs? sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane
-Caveat Lector- Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2001/0201/breaking9.htm Last updated: 08:32 Far from being a relatively harmless "soft" drug, cannabis can drive people temporarily insane as well as harming the heart, lungs and immune system, British scientists said today. Studies showed that the drug can have serious effects on both mental and physical health. Dr Andrew Johns, from the Institute of Psychiatry in London, said regular cannabis use led to acute psychological problems in a high proportion of people. One study found 15 per cent of cannabis users identified psychotic symptoms such as hearing voices or irrational feelings of persecution. A number of reports, reviewed by Dr Johns in the British Journal of Psychiatry, suggested the drug could induce psychosis in people with no history of severe mental illness. Heavy cannabis use could lead to a state resembling acute schizophrenia. In this case the drug was thought to trigger off an underlying illness. Cannabis was also associated with high rates of other forms of mental illness, such as adjustment disorder and major depression. It appeared to worsen the condition of people already suffering from schizophrenia, with users experiencing more and earlier psychotic relapses. Dr Johns wrote: "An appreciable proportion of cannabis users report short-lived adverse effects, including psychotic states following heavy consumption, and regular users are at risk of dependence. "People with major mental illnesses such as schizophrenia are especially vulnerable in that cannabis generally provokes relapses and aggravates existing symptoms. "Health workers need to recognise, and respond to, the adverse effects of cannabis on mental health." In another review published by the journal, Prof Heather Ashton of the University of Newcastle said cannabis affected almost every bodily system. As well as producing severe anxiety, panic, paranoia and psychosis in high doses, it also impaired memory and concentration and had a number of physical effects. These included heart problems that might be serious for people with pre-existing cardiac disease and suppression of the immune system. In addition, smoking between three and four cannabis reefers a day produced the same risk of bronchitis and emphysema as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes. Tar from a cannabis cigarette contained higher levels of some cancer-triggering chemicals than tobacco smoke. Chronic cannabis use also appeared to cause a risk of complications in pregnancy and childbirth, said Prof Ashton. But cannabis and its derivatives had promising potential as a treatment for a large number of medical conditions, said Dr Philip Robson, also writing in the journal. Chemicals in the drug had been shown to have therapeutic effects in nausea caused by anti-cancer drugs, multiple sclerosis, loss of appetite, pain, glaucoma, insomnia, anxiety and depression, epilepsy, and asthma. There was also evidence from animal studies that cannabis derivatives can protect against cancer. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Demon Info: Helpdesk: FAQs: Proxy
-Caveat Lector- c'mon then saba answer my questions- i had the decency to respond to your facile "outing" of me- but you are very quiet when your baseless accusations are shown to be so. retract! retract! or back it up- if you can? well- i already know the answer :) what medication are we on today then? mibbe i know you better than you think. - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 February 2001 19:34 Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Demon Info: Helpdesk: FAQs: Proxy BooHoo at Demon Co UK..I know who you are .. you knew nothing about Scotland and new nothing about the underground seabases or BMEWS and Missile sites that my brother in law set up for you? Nice picture of him on banks of Loch Lomondand you would do well to find out what an antisemite is...Zionists or European Jews are not semites. your ignorance is appalling - your style is familiar ...go find another dummy account - Anybody want a dummy account from Demon.Co.UK Saba Search for Home Registration Site Map Information Products Helpdesk Downloads Network Tools Press Centre About Us Contact Us Careers Member Services Network Status WebMail WebPassword Community Games Chat Demon Magazine Safe Usage Guide Channels News Headlines Finance Shopping Home / Helpdesk / FAQs / Proxy Proxy Server The Demon WWW Proxy Service provides proxy facilities for Web (HTTP), file transfer (FTP) and Gopher protocols. What is a Proxy? Why would I want to use a Proxy Service? How would using Automatic Proxy Configuration help me? Setting up your browser to use the Demon Proxy Service Internet Explorer Proxy setup Netscape Navigator Proxy setup Proxy setup for other browsers What is a Proxy? A Proxy Server is a machine that sits between your computer and the Web Server whose pages you are accessing. It holds an archive (called a 'cache') of the most popular recently accessed pages. These can then be served to your computer far more quickly than if they had been requested from the original Web Server. Proxy systems are designed to speed up file requests, reduce international bandwidth requirements, and ease the load on Web and FTP servers by only requesting updated or new files that they do not already have in store. A recent development in proxy cacheing is the Automatic Proxy Service, or AutoProxy. This gives your browser access to the very latest information on which Proxy Servers are available, which types of Internet access can be used, and whether some pages should be downloaded direct from their own server. Why would I want to use a Proxy Service? In summary, the benefits you will notice are: Significant speed increases when accessing more popular documents. Overloaded sites will still be accessible to you - since they are likely to be available from the Proxy. It helps speed up your access to the Internet as a whole - the more people who use the Proxies, the less bandwidth is consumed. Details of the "Cache Now!" Web Proxy campaign, and links to more cacheing resources, can be found at http://vancouver-webpages.com/CacheNow/. For a brief summary of the issues involved in WWW Cacheing, read Alan J Flavells WWW Cache Briefing. How would using Automatic Proxy Configuration help me? Please note that even though our enhanced Proxies are fully operational, "Automatic Proxy Configuration" is currently a Beta service. Feedback is welcome - simply email your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Demon now has an improved Web Proxy service in place that will help ensure your web access is faster and more reliable. Part of this scheme involves updating the proxy system continuously. For full effectiveness you will need to set up the "Automatic Proxy Configuration" (AutoProxy) feature of your browser. The benefits that you will see from using Automatic Proxy Configuration are: Improved resilience - you will be able to access the Web even if a Proxy server becomes unavailable. We reconfigure for you. Consistency of performance - we can ensure consistent service by balancing the load on the Proxy servers. Access more sites quickly - we can even ensure the optimum Proxy setting is used for individual sites. Other browsers that don't support automatic proxy configuration can be set up using the standard proxy configuration. Internet Explorer Proxy setup You should be using the latest version of Microsoft Internet Explorer to get the most out of your Web browsing. You can check the Microsoft Web Site to see if there is a more recent version for you to install. We recommend that you should be using at least version 3.02. If you are using Internet Explorer version 3.02 or 5 for Windows 95 or NT4, then you will be able to take advantage of Demon's AutoProxy Service. If you are using Internet Explorer 3.01 or 4.0 for Windows, or any Macintosh version, you will need to set the Standard Proxy Configuration. (Internet Explorer 4.0 does not properly support the AutoProxy service.) * Which version of Internet
Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane
-Caveat Lector- they will keep doing studies until they find someone who died using cannabis- they will wait a long time though. clutching at straws. these negative result studies become more vague as the years go on- and still the (uk) government ignore the bigger positive result studies that they commisioned themselves. - Original Message - From: "Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2001 16:42 Subject: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane -Caveat Lector- Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane
I had alot of trouble with paranoia and psychosis in the 60's when I smoked marijuana. I had to give it up for that reason. I don't think this is some conspiracy. The problem is they haven't figured out which types of people respond this way and which don't. - Original Message - From: c. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane -Caveat Lector-they will keep doing studies until they find someone who died usingcannabis- they will wait a long time though. clutching at straws.these negative result studies become more vague as the years go on- andstill the (uk) government ignore the bigger positive result studies thatthey commisioned themselves.- Original Message -From: "Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 02 February 2001 16:42Subject: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane -Caveat Lector- Scientists say cannabis can drive users insaneA HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/ADECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These aresordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups withmajor and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, andalways suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives nocredence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlA HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Ahttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
Re: [CTRL] Ashcroft-The Artful Dodger
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Feb 2001, at 0:55, Samantha L. wrote: Amelia, no offense, but you're really an idiot. Samantha She presented facts that contradicted your post. Does everyone who does this qualify as an idiot? -- If you can't answer a man's argument, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names. --Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Bill Richer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2001 08:04 Subject: [CTRL] A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES -Caveat Lector- A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor. tell that to panama, nicaragua, cuba Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. no- america would not come in to the war until they had to for their OWN sake. american bankers made usurious loans to the "allies" and did not forgive those debts. japan was used as an experimental lab by the americans. to use the phrase "lifted out of the debris" to describe the decimation of two cities (civilian targets) is utterly gross. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. lie When the France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up lie , and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. not only the usa, which the comment above seems to try to indicate. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. lie The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. no such thing as a free lunch- all the superpowers pumped large amounts of money into developed and developing countries- to curry favour with them in all sorts of ways- military and economic. it was not a charity situation at all. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. ok look below Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? yes- the biggest freight liner in da world! see below If so, why don't they fly them? they do! Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? well- this is not true AIRBUS "BELUGA" TRANSPORTS INTERNATIONAL SPACE SECTION FROM TURIN TO FLORIDA 02 February 2001 Demonstrating that the International Space Station is truly a global effort, the world's most voluminous civil freighter aircraft in service, Airbus' A300-600ST Super Transporter - nicknamed "Beluga" - today delivered a crucial element of the International Space Station to the Kennedy Space Center, during its fifth-ever visit to the United States. The multi-purpose pressurised logistics module (MPLM), manufactured by Alenia Aerospazio of Italy, in Turin, will be used to transport supplies and material, including experimental apparatus between Earth and ISS. Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? because no other country had such a NEED for such a gesture. landing on the moon was the decisive act in the cold war. You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. this is a racist comment. describing all the electronics skill/ developments as "radios" is pathetic. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. more of the same. shame aboout the american car industry, uh? You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. you weren't the first country to get into space . and you are using a european built plane to help ya get back out there :) You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at .. Even their draft-dodgers are not
Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane
yeah- i know people can have problems with it- but it is a conspiracy- the empirical evidence has been studied many times and the results never say what the government want. there was a huge study commisioned by the uk gov. in the late 60s but the results were ignored (baroness wooten?) can't remember- my long term memory is shot to hell with all the hash of course... i am not denying that you can feel paranoid or schizo from hashish- but i can feel that without it too. and it is not (as this new study tries to indicate) that it develops over long term use. everyone who has smoked has experienced paranoia attacks while wasted- but not a continual decline thru continued use. - Original Message - From: ifoxter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2001 17:42 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane I had alot of trouble with paranoia and psychosis in the 60's when I smoked marijuana. I had to give it up for that reason. I don't think this is some conspiracy. The problem is they haven't figured out which types of people respond this way and which don't. - Original Message - From: c. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane -Caveat Lector-they will keep doing studies until they find someone who died usingcannabis- they will wait a long time though. clutching at straws.these negative result studies become more vague as the years go on- andstill the (uk) government ignore the bigger positive result studies thatthey commisioned themselves.- Original Message -From: "Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 02 February 2001 16:42Subject: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane -Caveat Lector- Scientists say cannabis can drive users insaneA HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/ADECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These aresordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups withmajor and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, andalways suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives nocredence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlA HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Ahttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
[CTRL] Leviticus
Background:Laura Schlessinger is a US radio personality who dispenses advice to peoplewho call in to her radio show.Recently, she said that as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is anabomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned in anycircumstance. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a USresident, which was posted on the Internet:Dear Dr. Laura:Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I havelearned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge withas many people as I can.When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simplyremind them thatLeviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I doneed some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws andhow to follow them.a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates apleasing odour for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbours. Theyclaim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in herperiod of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev.15:19-24). The problem is, how do Itell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female,provided they are purchasedfrom neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies toMexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?e) I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill himmyself?f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is anabomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. Idon't agree. Can you settle this?g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have adefect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does myvision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair aroundtheir temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. Howshould they die?i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes meunclean, but may I still playfootball if I wear gloves?j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two differentcrops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of twodifferent kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curseand blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble ofgetting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't wejust burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with peoplewho sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)I know you have studied these things extensively, soI am confident you can help.Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.
[CTRL] 'Madame Butterfly' Theresa Le Pore
-Caveat Lector- The Wall Street Journal of December 1st, 2000 page one states: " 'Madame Butterfly' Theresa Le Pore wasn't always an embattled Palm Beach ballots chief. In the 1980s she moonlighted as a flight attendant on private planes owned by Saudi weapons dealer Adnan Khashoggi, a middleman in Reagan administration arms sales to Iran." Theresa Le Pore designed the infamous Butterfly Ballot in Palm Beach Florida. The Plot Thickens as they say, or does it, time will tell. Pamela Harriman was married to Randolph Churchill before she married Averell Harriman. Averell Harriman was the partner in Brown Brothers, Harriman, with Prescott Bush, the father of former President Bush, with George Herbert Walker, former President Bush's grandfather. The W in George W. Bush stands for Walker. Pamela's son was named after his grandfather, Winston Churchill. Pamela's son ,Winston's alleged former mistress was Soraya Khashoggi, who was the former wife of arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi. Small world isn't it. Khashoggi was also allegedly deeply involved with former President Bush in the Iran-Contra Affair. "The Churchill Society London ... Mr Churchill, whose former mistress Soraya Khashoggi, the former wife of arms dealer Adnan http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/wscminor.html "THE TIMES NEWSPAPER19th February 1997 By Andrew Pierce Tom Rhodes WINSTON CHURCHILL who spent most of his life living in the shadow of his glamorous mother Pamela Harriman, was left $10 million (6.2 million pounds) in her will it was disclosed yesterday." http://www.time.com/time/magazine/1997/dom/970915/princess.outside_lok in.html "OUTSIDE LOOKING IN ... to Saudi Arabia. The company took off, and not long after, al Fayed married Khashoggi's sister Samira, who gave birth to Dodi in 1955. He divorced her after" ... "Article24b.htm ... to prove, but Richard Taus, former FBI agent, states that Al Fayed and Khashoggi were connected to the Iran/Contra scandal through Castle Securities. Castle ..". http://paranoiamagazine.com/24Article2.htm "of Europe. Dodi Fayed, beloved of Lady Diana, is a cousin of Adnan Khashoggi, a CIA asset involved in sales of arms to Iran-he and Oliver North. Adnan"..We of course were told that Ms. Le Pore was a Democrat, but in the material below she is found speaking on Immigration sounding very anti-Immigrant to put it mildly. http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju43144.000/hju43144_0 .HTM#155 "STATEMENT OF THERESA LE PORE, SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, PALM BEACH COUNTY, FL" Bin Laden et.al. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/family.html " Today one of the biggest construction groups in the kingdom [of Saudi Arabia] and the Middle East, the "bin Laden empire-One of the connections which still explains many of the personal ties existing throughout the Middle East is the Victoria College in Alexandria, where the bin Laden boys attended classes along with schoolmates such as King Hussein of Jordan, Zaid Al Rifai, the Kashoggi brothers (whose father was one of the king's physicians), Kamal Adham (who ran the Saudi [security] services under King Faisal), present-day contractors Mohammed Al Attas, Fahd Shobokshi and Ghassan Sakr and actor Omar Sharif.King Fahd's two closest friends were: Prince Mohammed Ben Abdullah (son of Abdul Aziz' youngest brother), who died in the early '80s and whose brother, Khaled Ben Abdullah (an associate of Suleiman Olayan), still has free access to the king; and Salem bin Laden, who died in 1988. Like his father in 1968, Salem died in a 1988 air crash...in Texas. He was flying a BAC 1-11 which had been bought in July 1977 by Prince Mohammed Ben Fahd. The plane's flight plans had long been at the center of a number of investigations. According to one of the plane's American pilots, it had been used in October 1980 during secret Paris meetings between US and Iranian emissaries. Nothing was ever proven, but Salem bin Laden's accidental death revived some speculation that he might have been "eliminated" as an embarrassing witness. In fact, an inquiry was held to determine the exact circumstances of the accident. The conclusions were never divulged." http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile10.html Excerpted from article below found at url above "October Surprise: Time for Truth? Part 2 By Robert Parry The diciest part of the October Surprise saga remains the allegations of secret Paris meetings between Republicans and Iranians in fall 1980. According to some of those alleging that the GOP sabotaged President Carter's pre-election hostage negotiations, the Paris meetings followed earlier contacts between William Casey and Iranians in Madrid; in effect, the Paris talks cemented the deal. But what has made the Paris allegations so controversial is the claim by some that George Bush, the Republican vice presidential candidate and former CIA director, slipped away on the weekend of Oct. 18-19, 1980, and flew to Paris to assure the Iranians of
[CTRL] Fw: [ashcroft-watch] More of the Dirty Dick et.al. Don't Miss A Trick Story
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 02, 2001 6:46 AM Subject: [ashcroft-watch] More of the Dirty Dick et.al. Don't Miss A Trick Story More of the Dirty Dick et.al. Don't Miss A Trick Story http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39001-2000Dec21.html Ann Veneman, Bush choice for Agriculture Secretary, according to the article at the url above served on the board of Calgene, described in that article as "a biotechnology company working on genetically engineered foods" .http://www.ucsusa.org/Gene/F97.agribusiness.html "Calgene (is) now a subsidiary of Monsanto" http://www.monsanto.com/monsanto/media/00/00nov13_stock.html http://www.social-ecology.org/library/tokar/monsanto.html "In 1947, a rench freighter carrying ammonium nitrate fertilizer blew up at a dock 270 feet from Monsanto's plastics plant outside Galveston, Texas.More than 500 people died in what came to be seen as one of the chemical industry's first major disasters.- The herbicide "Agent Orange," which was used by U.S. military forces to defoliate the rainforest ecosystems of Vietnam during the 1960s was a mixture of 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D that was available from several sources, but Monsanto's Agent Orange had concentrations of dioxin many times higher than that produced by Dow Chemical, the defoliant's other leading manufacturer. This made Monsanto the key defendant in the lawsuit brought by Vietnam War veterans in the United States, who faced an array of debilitating symptoms attributable to Agent Orange exposure. When a $180 million settlement was reached in 1984 between seven chemical companies and the lawyers for the veterans, the judge ordered Monsanto to pay 45.5 percent of the total." http://www.monsanto.com/monsanto/about_us/company_timeline/index3.html "Through the Dayton Laboratories, Monsanto became involved in research on uranium for the Manhattan Project, which led to the first nuclear bombs. "Monsanto Company, an 85 percent owned subsidiary of Pharmacia Corporation." http://microrim.samovar.ru "On April 3, 2000, a new first-tier competitor in the global pharmaceutical industry was created. Pharmacia Corporation is the result of a merger between Pharmacia Upjohn and Monsanto Company. http://www.pharmacia.com http://www.pnu.com/ http://www.monsanto.co.uk/news/2000/january2000/27012000_monsanto.html "Pharmacia Upjohn's board of directors is comprised of Frank C. Carlucci (and others) http://www.nortelnetworks.com/corporate/news/newsreleases/1999b/4_29_9 999298_Carlucci_appt.html "Frank C. Carlucci Becomes Nortel Networks' New Chairman of the Board of Directors" "Carlucci of McLean, Virginia, a member of the Nortel Networks board of directors since 1989, currently serves as the chairman of the Carlyle Group, a Washington, D.C.-based merchant banking firm as well as chairman of the board and a director of Neurogen Corporation. Earlier, Carlucci enjoyed a long and distinguished career in the U.S. government. His periods of service which spanned both Democratic and Republican administrations, included appointments as Secretary of Defense from 1987 to 1989, National Security Advisor to President Reagan in 1987, Ambassador to Portugal, Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, Deputy Secretary of Defense, Deputy Director of Central Intelligence, and Deputy Director of the Office of Management and Budget." http://www.njdc.org/readNews.php3?show=67dept=4 "Cheney agreed with his predecessor, Frank Carlucci, that congressional opposition to US arms sales to friendly Arab states has hurt American interests in the region. 'I think the United States does have a role to play in the area that does involve providing our Arab friends with the equipment they need in order to provide for their defense,' Cheney said." http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/secdef_histories/bios/cheney.htm "Richard B. Cheney March 21, 1989- January 20, 1993 17th Secretary of Defense Bush Administration President George Bush initially chose former Texas Sen. John G. Tower to be his secretary of defense. When the Senate in March 1989 rejected his nomination, Bush selected Rep. Richard B. (Dick) Cheney of Wyoming. Cheney, born in Lincoln,Nebraska, on 30 January 1941, attended Yale University- For chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff he selected General Colin L. Powell, who assumed the post on 1 October 1989.- Cheney and Secretary of State Baker were old friends - Panama, controlled by General Manuel Antonio Noriega, the head of the country's military, against whom a U.S. grand jury had entered an indictment for drug trafficking in February 1988, held Cheney's attention almost from the time he took office." http://www.njdc.org/readNews.php3?show=67dept=4 "DICK CHENEY'S OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS 1.In Congress, Cheney was a leader of the forces pushing for a constitutional school prayer amendment, working as Chairman of the House Republican
[CTRL] MC: Red China, BushMob seek to DESTROY West US With HiTech Weather War
-Caveat Lector- Hi All - The list should be aware that Newshawk has been trying to distribute this story for at least the past 3 weeks. Each and every Newshawk transmission has been blocked as set out below. Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC EcoNews Service http://www.ecologynews.com = In a message dated 01-02-02 10:41:55 EST, you write: Red China, BushMob seek to DESTROY West US With HiTech Weather War ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶
[CTRL] MC: [surfingtheapocalypse] BREAKING NEWS JFK JR.
-Caveat Lector-
One underlying issue in this breaking story on JFK, Jr. is: How is news made
if (and why) non-experts like the undersigned are consulted for key quotes?
Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC
EcoNews Service
http://www.ecologynews.com
In a message dated 01-02-02 02:42:19 EST, you write:
BREAKING NEWS: Surfing The Apocalypse has just received information,
from a reliable source, that The NATIONAL EXAMINER is set to run a story
which includes photographic evidence that supports the theory that JFK
JR's plane crash was orchestrated by a conspiracy... Watch for it to hit
newstands within next 24-48 hours.
-
FYI - I received this email late in the evening of 1/31/01. I was asked for
comment by the National Examiner on the JFK Jr assassination story. My email
answer is below. I am not an expert on the JFK Jr story, and said so to the
Naitonal Exaxminer. Later, when I spoke to the NE editor overseeing this
breaking story, I could not get an answer as to why I was interviewed for the
story. Thanks for reading this, Alfred Webre
=
From: EcoNews Service [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Editor
Subject:Re: Trying to reach Dr. Alfred Webre
Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date sent: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:00:17 -0800
On 31 Jan 01, at 23:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dr. Webre,
At the suggestion of my writing colleague, Dr. FR, I have
been trying to reach you in Vancouver to discuss a story theNational
Examiner is preparing on the fatal John F. Kennedy Jr., planecrash, a
story in which sources state that JFK Jr.'s death resulted from
tampering with instruments aboard his plane in a conspiracy tosilence
his further inquiry into his father's assassination. I am seeking an
attributable quote to the effect that government photos of the plane
wreckage, including the cockpit instrumentation, certainly point to
the existence of a conspiracy behind the crash. Because of anurgent
deadline, I would hope to hear from no later than 11 a.m. EST
tomorrow, Feb. 1. I can be reached this evening at my Floridahome,
561-361-8826, or by email at his aol address.
Editorx
Senior Editor
Tel: xxx xxx
==
Dear Sirs:
Thank you for your email. The evidence on which I base myattributable
quote is set out below at the end of this email. Youcan find it at:
http://www.konformist.com/1999/john-john/coverup.htm
My attributable quote is as follows.
QUOTE:
"I am not an expert on the circumstances sorrrounding the death ofJohn F.
Kennedy, Jr., but I have formed my opinions on the basis of
expert views," says author/researcher Alfred Webre. "Thoseexperts - in
the NewsHawk newsgroup - tell me that 'One of theprimary indications the
plane's destruction and the
passengers' deaths were not the result of some "accident" is aradio
contact made by pilot JFK Jr. to the Martha's VineyardAirport flight
control tower at 9:39 PM, July 16, 1999,'" Webrestated.
"'The timing and content of this radio contact, as well as the tone of
Kennedy's conversation, invalidate to an overwhelming extent the
prevailing, "officially-sanctioned" accounts of the event promulgated by
the federal government through mass media outlets,'" Webre concluded.
"As a CoDirector of the Assassination Information Bureau, I helpedbring
about the 1977 House Select Committee on Assassinationsto investigate the
deaths of JFK, John Kennedy Jr.'s father, and ofMartin Luther King,"
Webre concluded. "John F Kennedy, Jr.'sdeath bears all of the hallmarks
of an assassination by America'scovert intelligent networks. History
repeats itself if there is nodemocratic intervention to deconstruct these
ruling covertnetworks."
END OF QUOTE - Copyright 2001 alfred webre
Please use only this quote. If you would like to alter or discuss it,
please call me. Please forward me a copy of your article when it is
published.
Best wishes, Alfred Webre
Vancouver, BC
===
RESEARCH BASIS
http://www.konformist.com/1999/john-john/coverup.htm
{PRIVATE}HARD EVIDENCE OFCONSPIRACY, COVER-UP IN JFKJr. DEATH
© Copyright 1999 NewsHawk® Inc.
Rights of unaltered reproduction/distribution herebywaived.
A plethora of facts, testimony, circumstantial evidence andcommon sense
as well as certain material evidence has shownconsistently that the
deaths of John F. Kennedy Jr., wife CarolynBessette and sister-in-law
Lauren Bessette and the destruction(by some means or other) of the Piper
Saratoga aircraft thethree were flying in were very likely not
"accidental" events .
One of the PRIMARY indications the plane's destruction andthe passengers'
deaths were NOT the result of some "accident"is a radio contact made by
pilot JFK Jr. to the Martha'sVineyard Airport flight control tower at
9:39 PM, July 16, 1999.
The timing and content of this radio contact, as well as the toneof
Re: [CTRL] OBRL - Incredible Earth Energy-Field Images
-Caveat Lector- Approved: organ From: OBRL-News [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:- Incredible Earth Energy-Field Images Orgone Biophysical Research Lab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.orgonelab.org Forwarded News Item Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups ** Dr. DeMeo: This so-called plasmasphere really intrigues me. Was this feature of the planet known before our first journies to space? Was WR aware of it? Seems like a vast orgone field enveloping the planet. It's curious that it's blue. A filter perhaps? grin Jeff Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pluto.space.swri.edu/IMAGE/ Dear Jeff, Thanks very much for alerting me to this incredible site. The plasmasphere movies are totally awesome, and appear to show slow spiral movements of orgone from outer space, towards the Earth, and then gently wrapping around the Earth. Superimposition! Reich certainly never knew about this, and I don't even know if the "magnetosphere" was known to exist. Remember, the first satellites were launched only in the late 50s, just before his death, so he never saw photos from space, etc. The blue color is a "false color" image, but the information provided suggests the sensors were picking up frequences between 30-200 nanometers, which is far ultraviolet -- invisible to the eye, but definitely on the "bluish" end of things. I particularly like the following: http://pluto.space.swri.edu/IMAGE/EUV_intro.html and http://pluto.space.swri.edu/IMAGE/EUV_movies.html Showing beautiful streaming energy wrapping itself around the Earth in superimposing manner. http://pluto.space.swri.edu/IMAGE/nai_images.html and http://pluto.space.swri.edu/IMAGE/hena_m01.mov This shows a clear spiral-form when the Earth is viewed directly from above. Once again, a big thanks. James DeMeo ** OBRL News is a product of the non-profit Orgone Biophysical Research Lab Greensprings Research and Educational Center PO Box 1148, Ashland, Oregon 97520 USA http://www.orgonelab.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Building upon the discoveries of the internationally acclaimed natural scientist, Dr. Wilhelm Reich To subscribe to OBRL-News, send the message: subscribe obrl-news to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Plain text email only! No "HTML-mail"!) To unsubscribe, or change to a new email address, firstly: unsubscribe obrl-news [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the same address above. Then re-subscribe with your new address. subscribe obrl-news [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ EcoNews Service - Always online for Ecology, Consciousness Universe Exopolitics. EcoNews http://www.ecologynews.com/ Prague http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Vancouver, BC V6M 1V8 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [SSfS] - CALIFORNIA POLICE-STATE UPDATE -
-Caveat Lector- To: "Separation of School State" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Dale R. Reed" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:31:55 -0800 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[SSfS] - CALIFORNIA POLICE-STATE UPDATE - An example of *not* being prudent. Unless your goal is to destroy privately owned...whatevers. Dale "Red" Davis Rides Again! Governor's "Executive Order" Creates ENERGY POLICE By Mel Young If there is anything to be learned from the history of past, tyrannical governments, it is that they all started out, little by little, creating situations to justify their involvement. This is followed by the creation of more and more layers of police-state laws, rules, licenses, permits and regulations with the eventual goal being to take away ALL of the liberties of the people and enslave them. And, it should be noted, ALL governments have supposedly "good" reasons for the new laws, permits and other tools of tyranny. One can point to the "creation" of the massive crime waves and the growth of the mobs early in the last century to the government's outlawing booze. Prohibition not only made super millionaires out of the likes of Joe Kennedy and many others; it was used as an excuse for a whole slew of new laws, supposedly enacted on the behalf of the people, but in reality, on behalf of the growth of the socialist state and big government. One of the most dangerous laws was the landmark infringement on the Second Amendment with the passing of the first antigun bill, requiring that owners / purchasers of automatic weapons must purchase a permit (read register) from the government. That law was supposed to force Al Capone, Baby-Face Nelson, Bonnie and Clyde, and a whole slew of other mob thugs of the time to race to their nearest Treasury Department Office to buy a permit for their "Tommy" guns so they could be arrested. Hello out there.does anyone know of a single incident in history where the crook has gone to the government to register a firearm? Thought the law was worthless with respect to reducing crime or the use of automatic weapons by crooks, it did serve the purpose of giving government more control and power over the people and, of course, forcing a major crack in the Second Amendment. OK..nuff said on that subject. Last night, Governor Gray (RED) Davis of California was featured on the evening news, announcing his executive orders to combat our State of California-created energy crisis. Was it to restore the status quo by forcing the purchasers of the power plants in California to sell them back to the power generating companies; which were forced by the State of California to sell them in the first place? Not hardly. What Red Davis has announced is a new bureaucracy to determine what lights you and I "need" versus what lights we do not "need". This applies in spades to businesses and industry. Under the new, Socialist, "Davis" plan, the governor is setting up "Energy Police" operations. According to the governor, guidelines will be drawn up over the next week or so and sent out to all police agencies in the state; whereby the police will be empowered to determine if you or I are burning lights that we do not need and issue tickets (only a puny $1,000 fine for each ticket) to the evil users of light. The more I've been reading up on this fiasco, the more it stinks to high heaven. Pardon my paranoia, if I dare to suggest that this whole energy crisis situation appears now to have been a carefully crafted plan to destroy the privately owned utilities in such a way that the State and Federal Governments could get into the act, seize power companies, natural gas transmission facilities, etc. and further increase the government's stranglehold on us, as another step towards the NWO / One World Government Socialist Police State. A year ago, if anyone in California were asked if they thought a police-state energy saving policy would eventually be put in place in California, the answer would have been a resounding "NO WAY"! WAKE UP AMERICA.as CA goes, so will go the nation. As a former Electrical Superintendent and Plant Engineer in industry, I can tell you that the State of California's energy policy, with respect to lighting, is a total disaster; designed and run by idiots. As the ranch resident lamp lighter, I'm going to write up a special report on good energy policy versus the State of California's ridiculous nonsense. I'll also write up some valuable information for consumers so that they can easily determine their own cost of lighting and ways to save both energy and money. Remember that CA has been the "proving grounds" for many decades for the Communist Party USA and the socialist fellow travelers. The first major riot in a university occurred at U. of CA Berkeley. The first major
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The California Electricity Swindle
www..com My Groups | konformist Main Page Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com To see tons of links: http://www.disinfo.com/pages/dossier/id825/pg1/ the california electricity swindle by Robert Sterling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - February 01, 2001 A huge financial scandal, just in time for another Bush Administration, comes courtesy of a legislated give-away sold to the public as "deregulation". It's almost like a mandatory ritual for the Bush demon-seed to grab power. Twelve years ago, it was the SL looting, much of which was concealed from the public until the '88 election was over (Neil Bush's SL, for example, was shut down the day after his father was elected.) Now comes the California electricity swindle for "president" George W., and though it is currently merely a state-wide fiasco (albeit the largest state, one that controls a sixth of the US economy), it will either turn into an early warning for other states not to follow or a shape of things to come. Roughly half the United States have deregulated their electricity market, or are in the process of doing so. So far it has nearly bankrupt the state's three largest utility companies (Southern California-Edison, Pacific Gas Electric and San Diego Gas and Electric), almost wiped out a huge budget surplus for a state that has received the lion's share of Dot-com dollars, and led to widespread blackouts - something normally associated with a Third World Nation, not a leading edge economy. It has also led to astronomical utility bills for residents in the San Diego area, bills that may spread if the mess isn't fixed quick. How did this all happen? News reports often try to chalk it up to a variety of reasons, but it really is due to only one: state deregulation of the electricity market. The proof is in the differences in the state between the deregulated areas and the control sample. For example, the city of Los Angeles is hardly known for being stern power conservationist, and yet residents are unaffected by the scandal. The reason: Los Angeles has a municipal-owned utility system, and thus was not part of the scheme. The L.A. utility has even profited off the mess itself, by selling surplus electricity to the rest of the state at a profit (though at a merciful lower price than other energy producers have gouged.) If that isn't enough evidence of a scandal, a study by Public Citizen concluded that peak power demand has been lower in four of the last six months, which proves the claim by power producers that increased consumer demand is the culprit to be bogus. California Assembly Bill 1890 was presented to the public as a remarkable restructuring of the electricity market for their benefit. That the main proponent of the measure was Republican Governor Pete Wilson perhaps should have been an early warning sign that something was wrong. In his eight years in office, Wilson - arguably the most cynical politician ever to come from the Golden State, a major statement for the home of Nixon and Reagan - consistently showed utter contempt to the public in all fiscal matters, pushing an agenda that consistently hurt average people, while benefiting his large corporate donors. (Despite his atrocious record of ruining the California economy during his first term, he was re-elected on a not-so-subliminally racist campaign of scapegoating immigrants and a promise to "get tough on crime.") The Governor hyped the electricity deregulation initiative as the crowning achievement of his reign. It certainly has become that: the transfer of public wealth into the hands of an elite collective is the perfect symbol for his policies. A.B. 1890 changed the electricity marketplace radically: it split the electricity business into one group of companies to generate power, and another to buy and deliver it. Utility companies were to sell off their power plants, a move they lobbied for since the high costs of building and maintaining unprofitable plants - most notably inefficient nuclear power plants, which didn’t lived up to the promises of their proponents - had eaten away profits. Price caps on electricity providers (a turn-of-the-century Progressive era reform to prevent market manipulations and gouging) were eliminated, with caps on utility bills to follow when companies recouped expenses from failed plants. To recoup these losses, utilities were allowed to charge artificially higher rates to customers, though these same customers received electricity bills which itemized a phony "rebate" as part of the agreement. (Why the public was supposed to subsidize huge corporations for their bad investments was never explained.) The theory behind the deregulation plan was that with multiple sellers and distributors of electricity, a competitive marketplace would develop, to the benefit of the consumers. It
Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane
can anyone send me the original of this message, I have experienced much the same thing. must have deleted it in error. peace. -Original Message-From: ifoxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 02 February 2001 17:44Subject: Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane I had alot of trouble with paranoia and psychosis in the 60's when I smoked marijuana. I had to give it up for that reason. I don't think this is some conspiracy. The problem is they haven't figured out which types of people respond this way and which don't. - Original Message - From: c. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane -Caveat Lector-they will keep doing studies until they find someone who died usingcannabis- they will wait a long time though. clutching at straws.these negative result studies become more vague as the years go on- andstill the (uk) government ignore the bigger positive result studies thatthey commisioned themselves.- Original Message -From: "Kelly" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 02 February 2001 16:42Subject: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane -Caveat Lector- Scientists say cannabis can drive users insaneA HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/ADECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These aresordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups withmajor and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, andalways suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives nocredence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlA HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Ahttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
Re: [CTRL] MC: Red China, BushMob seek to DESTROY West US With HiTech Weather War
-Caveat Lector- So the story was censored?This weather destruction went on during the Clinton administration - remember, it was Carville who called American citizens trailor trash? Lots of people killed living in trailor parks and yes, most of these people seem to be white and off welfare...go to New York and wonder why the sister city to Sodom has not been blown off the map George Bush (Papa Bush) tried to tell the American people that this global warming was so much crap. This Hawk - used to like him, but now see him for what he is - he steals the work of others have have been trying to have this program revealedand the Michigan Militia and Montana Militia were the first on C SPAN to request that this program be investigated and Fred Thompson said he would check it out. JJ Johnson was with them who was laughing because people called the Militia a KKK outfit and Johnson, JJ of the Sierra Times, is black. In 1985 I discovered the weather program was classified..since 1965.so the Hawk is a liar he states thisi program will be used in act of war against American people. What they have done, they have done in the name of science.I call it mad science and now this program is under control of our War Department..prior to that Russia and Red China caused the weather to go wild using this MIR and other satellites but it nice to know we can now turn this program towards them - who needs war? The UN is involved in this program but once the Joint Chiefs and War Deprtmen took over, our American War Department, believe time are a changing and the weather will normalize on its own. Quinn is too dramatic..no wonder nobody will pay to read his news. So USA managed to keep ahead of the Russians but Sibera now - their weather returns to weather it was once like in 1960. Anybody sends a hurricane or tornade over my house, I will sue the hell out of themI lost a few rose trees and evergreens. But oh as Carville said ' that trailer trash ' their children have been killed only because they are poor. It is my hope New York City which is supposed to fall into the ocean soon - it is my hope that the innocent will be able to escape - but Florida, well those that sew the clouds reap the whirlwinds.angel or not riding it. Saba That Night Hawk needs to eat more banans or potatoes (or is that potatos)..he is a nervous wreck and used to make me a nervous wreck until I realized he was after the wrong people. Bet he likes Ehud. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Demon Info: Helpdesk: FAQs: Proxy
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2001 19:29 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Demon Info: Helpdesk: FAQs: Proxy -Caveat Lector- BooHoo I have no time to waste on you yes you do- you have a lot of time on your hands these days, haven't you? you don't know what to do with the third digit of your left hand anymore. - as I said your style is familiar i remind you of someone- living under a bridge? and yes, I know we have often written each other off list.. not in this life- but i will say this, you have one less and i have one more. Now you keep out of those bars..and mind your P's and Qs... Pre- Qunt .asshole. thee talking asshole might be a more suitable signature Saba blight I have two return letters to list which were not posted as I went over the edge of reason? ...you are NOT a scotsman and why is that? so better get a new account i a quite happy with demon, thanks, they don't insist that i use a credit card to pay- i use *dd* - for no scotsman could be as stupid as you - right? oh, but we have the highest rate of heart disease, tooth decay and single parent families in europe! we are the offshore trailer park of europe. we used to have the highest rate of aids cases too when it was fashinable - a lot of reasons there to suggest that perhaps most of us are stupid. so i guess i am the norm then. Scotsmen always had a certain amount of pride you never stop stereotyping do you? a whole fucking nation categorised on the basis of your liimited experience. what you don't know- or what doesn't fit into your categories just scares you shitless.a more accurate stereotype might be "fraser" from "dads army" if any. we are like our offspring, the americans- so many of us are there. pride=coinage if you ever get to PinkneyGreen in Middlesexdrop by the Golden Pub - maybe this is one bar you have missed? an apple a day keeps the doctor away A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Leviticus
-Caveat Lector- Leave it to you BooHoo to come up with something so original - again, your style is so familiar.my you sound so intelligent when you quote G-d. Or is that God. So Dr. Laura never made Playboy did she? Anything for the buck - a nudist moralist but when it comes to homosexuality, she has seen the light. She has survived but then, different strokes for different folksthough she lost some advertisers, she did not lose her job and like Jerry Springer, where would he be, without an angel to keep the fight going. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane
-Caveat Lector- [A few people have told me they didn't receive this message so am sending it again - sorry for the inconvenience - Kelly] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2001/0201/breaking9.htm Last updated: 08:32 Far from being a relatively harmless "soft" drug, cannabis can drive people temporarily insane as well as harming the heart, lungs and immune system, British scientists said today. Studies showed that the drug can have serious effects on both mental and physical health. Dr Andrew Johns, from the Institute of Psychiatry in London, said regular cannabis use led to acute psychological problems in a high proportion of people. One study found 15 per cent of cannabis users identified psychotic symptoms such as hearing voices or irrational feelings of persecution. A number of reports, reviewed by Dr Johns in the British Journal of Psychiatry, suggested the drug could induce psychosis in people with no history of severe mental illness. Heavy cannabis use could lead to a state resembling acute schizophrenia. In this case the drug was thought to trigger off an underlying illness. Cannabis was also associated with high rates of other forms of mental illness, such as adjustment disorder and major depression. It appeared to worsen the condition of people already suffering from schizophrenia, with users experiencing more and earlier psychotic relapses. Dr Johns wrote: "An appreciable proportion of cannabis users report short-lived adverse effects, including psychotic states following heavy consumption, and regular users are at risk of dependence. "People with major mental illnesses such as schizophrenia are especially vulnerable in that cannabis generally provokes relapses and aggravates existing symptoms. "Health workers need to recognise, and respond to, the adverse effects of cannabis on mental health." In another review published by the journal, Prof Heather Ashton of the University of Newcastle said cannabis affected almost every bodily system. As well as producing severe anxiety, panic, paranoia and psychosis in high doses, it also impaired memory and concentration and had a number of physical effects. These included heart problems that might be serious for people with pre-existing cardiac disease and suppression of the immune system. In addition, smoking between three and four cannabis reefers a day produced the same risk of bronchitis and emphysema as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes. Tar from a cannabis cigarette contained higher levels of some cancer-triggering chemicals than tobacco smoke. Chronic cannabis use also appeared to cause a risk of complications in pregnancy and childbirth, said Prof Ashton. But cannabis and its derivatives had promising potential as a treatment for a large number of medical conditions, said Dr Philip Robson, also writing in the journal. Chemicals in the drug had been shown to have therapeutic effects in nausea caused by anti-cancer drugs, multiple sclerosis, loss of appetite, pain, glaucoma, insomnia, anxiety and depression, epilepsy, and asthma. There was also evidence from animal studies that cannabis derivatives can protect against cancer. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Demon Info: Helpdesk: FAQs: Proxy
-Caveat Lector- Goodbye Boo Hooit is obvious we travel in circles but different circles. As I said I recognize your style - for as they say You got no style, you got no class You got no polishe -just a lot of brass - asshole. Saba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Bush-Enron connection
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Dowbenko020201/dowbenko020201.htm l How to create a phony power crisis: The Bush-Enron connection By Uri Dowbenko February 2, 2001—The phony US energy crisis has deep ties to the Bush Family. One of the prime beneficiaries of the "crisis" is Enron Corporation and its chairman, Ken Lay, a major corporate and personal contributor to George W. Bush's presidential campaign. Even though California Gov. Gray Davis has reached into California residents' deep pockets to bail out the utility companies through emergency legislation, Washington Gov. Gary Locke has balked. According to KCPQ-TV's Chris Daniels' "A Disturbing New Twist in Western Power Troubles, "Governor Locke says, 'It's unjustified, it's obscene, and clearly hurting all consumers.'" Like other western governors, Locke has had to pay for electricity at any price. In November of 1999, for example, electricity was purchased for $29 a megawatt hour. A year later, the price increased to $160 an hour, according to sources at Tacoma Power. Last month it was at $525. Locke expressed his indignation saying, "I've very disappointed in President Bush that the new administration will not be intervening." But why should he intervene? One of Bush's largest campaign contributors is Enron Corporation, a Texas-based company which is part of the de facto global energy oligopoly-cartel. Although diversifying into other business, Enron has been best known as the largest buyer and seller of natural gas in the United States. Its 1999 revenues of $40 billion had made it the 18th largest company in the United States. Enron is also invested in energy projects around the world, including the UK, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, the Philippines, Indonesia, China, India and Mozambique. One of the global energy cartel's most visible players, Enron saw its corporate profits rise 34 percent in the fourth quarter of 2000. Enron shareholders should ask—did dividends come from price gouging US citizens? How George W. Bush Got "Layed" Federal Election Commission records show that Enron Chairman Kenneth Lay donated more than $350,000 directly to Bush campaigns since 1997. Lay also gave another $100,000 to Republican candidates and fundraising committees. In addition, Enron Corporation, including employees, also donated $1.5 million in soft money to Bush and Republican committees. More recently, Lay and his wife donated $10,000 to the "Florida Recount Fund," and another $100,000 to the "Presidential Inaugural Fund." As one of his fundraising "Pioneers," Lay helped raise more than $100,000 for Bush's campaign for president. In consideration of these numbers, is it too much to ask for a phony and contrived power "crisis" as a payback? Naah, not at all . . . According to newswire reports, as a new energy advisor for President Bush, Ken Lay says that precap prices for wholesale electricity in the West "is not even a short-term solution." Not coincidentally, Enron is the largest power marketer in the United States. A cap would limit the prices it and other wholesalers could charge to utilities. Wholesale power prices were deregulated under the landmark 1996 law but retail rates were not. Lay said the federal government should limit itself to an "advisory" role, letting California leaders resolve a "pretty much self-inflicted problem." California's rolling blackouts have come as the two large utilities, PGE Corp. and Southern California Edison, have struggled under huge debts through buying electricity at higher wholesale prices than they can recoup under the retail rates they are allowed to charge. In the short term, Lay said, the state government will have to "buy the power to fill the short positions of the utilities." And to ensure Enron's unconscionable profit, he should have added. Enron's Pug Winokur, Shadow Government Insider On the Enron corporate website, one of the members of the board of directors, Herbert S. "Pug" Winokur, Jr., is described as chairman and CEO of Capricorn Holdings, Inc., and former senior executive vice president of Penn Central Corporation. As the Insiders' Insider, "Pug" Winokur has been such a permanent fixture in the Washington Old Boy Network that he's even mentioned in a 1978 book by Daniel Guttman called "The Shadow Government." Historically Winokur's Capricorn Holdings was used as an investment vehicle in NHP, an apartment management firm headed by Roderick Heller III. In turn, NHP's assets included oft-purloined and defaulted HUD Section 8 subsidy housing, a notorious and well-known vehicle for fraud and money laundering. Winokur was also on the Board of Directors of Harvard Endowment Fund, which purchased 50 percent of NHP, making the prestigious Harvard a prototypical, but very low-profile, slum landlord. (See "Bushwhacked: HUD Fraud, Spooks and the Slumlords of Harvard") It should also be noted that George W. Bush attended Harvard Business School.
Re: [CTRL] Church and Synagogue Leaders ask Bush to protect Nation's Forests
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 02/02/2001 2:15:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Taking its crusade of forest preservation to Congress and a new Administration, the Religious Campaign For Forest Conservation begins a round of meetings in Washington, D.C. this week with Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton, members of Congress, and other Bush Administration officials Long dismayed over industrial logging in the National Forests, the assembled coalition of clerics and laypersons will press for legislation to end commercial timber harvesting on America's public lands. Well, it would be nice to think that Dubya's religious principles would extend to protecting our forests, but he's not about to let Jesus or God get between a lumber magnate and his profits. The religious right is not concerned with the environmental health of this planet. Remember when James Watt told everybody it didn't matter because Rapture was going to take place any moment. He just looked at the Earth as a scrap heap. What was it I heard our new Secretary called--James Watt in drag? Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush Funeralgate
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2001-01-26/pols_naked5.html The Lawsuit That Wouldn't Die BY ROBERT BRYCE January 26, 2001: You read it here first: Within a year, George W. Bush will be ordered to testify under oath in the influence-buying scandal known as Funeralgate. So far, Bush has avoided all efforts to put him under oath. In 1996, his attorney, Al Gonzales, was able to keep his client from being selected for jury duty in a drunken driving case here in Travis County. But the stakes in that case were small and Bush wasn't the focus of the court action. Funeralgate is a different story. Bush has been named as a defendant in the whistleblower lawsuit brought by Eliza May, the former executive director of the Texas Funeral Service Commission; the suit alleges that Bush and others who got campaign contributions from funeral giant Service Corporation International worked to thwart an investigation into SCI's hiring of improperly licensed embalmers. Just as he did in 1996, Gonzales, who is now the White House general counsel, will do all he can to keep Bush out of situations in which he must swear to tell the truth. May's attorneys have been trying to get Bush under oath for more than 16 months. And they have many reasons to support their argument that Bush, and only Bush, can answer questions about discrepancies in testimony given in the Funeralgate mess. For instance, the attorneys want to ask Bush about his conversations with former TFSC chairman Dick McNeil, who has testified that he talked briefly with Bush in 1998 about the investigation the agency was doing. They also want to ask Bush why his chief of staff, Joe Allbaugh, was so quick to intervene during the TFSC's 1998 investigation of Houston-based funeral giant SCI. May's attorneys are particularly interested in what Allbaugh, whom Bush has appointed as head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, will say under oath. During May's investigation into SCI, Allbaugh conducted two meetings with her. The purpose of the meetings, says May's lawsuit, was to "pressure and intimidate May concerning the SCI investigation." Adding further intrigue to the influence-buying mess was last month's move by May's attorneys to name Texas Attorney General John Cornyn as a defendant in the suit. The attorneys charge that Cornyn went out of his way to help SCI during the TFSC investigation. As first reported in the Chronicle, the AG's office determined in early 1999 that it would not get involved in interpreting TFSC regulations while the agency was conducting its investigation of SCI. But shortly after that finding, Cornyn personally intervened, overruling the agency's earlier finding. That allowed the agency to interpret state law in a manner that was favorable to SCI. In their latest court pleading, May's lawyers, Derek Howard and Charles Herring Jr., claim that in January of 1999, Cornyn "began participating in the improper and illegal effort to prevent a full and proper investigation of SCI and to assist SCI and other conspirators in covering-up their prior improper, illegal actions, and in preventing May" and the TFSC from enforcing the law. The suit points out that Cornyn's chief deputy, Andy Taylor, used to work at the same law firm that was representing SCI at the commission -- and that by meeting with some SCI officials while working for the attorney general, Taylor acted unethically. In response to the lawsuit, Cornyn's office issued a terse statement, saying the attorney general "holds himself and his staff to the highest ethical standards. This is a politically motivated effort to try to jump-start a two-year-old lawsuit." Herring said that by intervening in the SCI matter, Cornyn changed longstanding policy at the AG's office. Cornyn was "doing a special favor for [SCI CEO Robert] Waltrip," he said. "That's not the way government is supposed to work. In our view, Cornyn was enlisted in the conspiracy." The lawsuit was originally scheduled to go to trial in the spring. It now appears that it will be delayed by several months. May's attorneys appear to have a good case against the state, though they'll have a difficult time proving that Bush, Cornyn, and the others acted to protect SCI because they got campaign donations from the company and Waltrip. Still, that's not the most disturbing aspect of Funeralgate. Voters have become inured to the fact that politicians do favors for big donors; the most disturbing part of this mess is that at no time did Bush, Allbaugh, SCI, Cornyn, or state Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston, act on behalf of, or show any concern for, Texas consumers. Instead, they acted to protect the fat cats. That's the scandal.
Re: [CTRL] MC: Red China, BushMob seek to DESTROY West US With HiTech Weather War
-Caveat Lector- Well, please look at the form in which the "message" arrived, below: Jenny Decker - Original Message - From: "DIG alfred webre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:22 AM Subject: [CTRL] MC: Red China, BushMob seek to DESTROY West US With HiTech Weather War -Caveat Lector- Hi All - The list should be aware that Newshawk has been trying to distribute this story for at least the past 3 weeks. Each and every Newshawk transmission has been blocked as set out below. Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC EcoNews Service http://www.ecologynews.com = In a message dated 01-02-02 10:41:55 EST, you write: Red China, BushMob seek to DESTROY West US With HiTech Weather War /XMP A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Leviticus
What's the URL at which we can see this? Jenny Decker - Original Message - From: c. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 10:23 AM Subject: [CTRL] Leviticus Background:Laura Schlessinger is a US radio personality who dispenses advice to peoplewho call in to her radio show.Recently, she said that as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is anabomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned in anycircumstance. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a USresident, which was posted on the Internet:Dear Dr. Laura:Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I havelearned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge withas many people as I can.When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simplyremind them thatLeviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I doneed some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws andhow to follow them.a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates apleasing odour for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbours. Theyclaim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in herperiod of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev.15:19-24). The problem is, how do Itell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female,provided they are purchasedfrom neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies toMexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?e) I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill himmyself?f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is anabomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. Idon't agree. Can you settle this?g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have adefect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does myvision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair aroundtheir temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. Howshould they die?i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes meunclean, but may I still playfootball if I wear gloves?j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two differentcrops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of twodifferent kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curseand blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble ofgetting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't wejust burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with peoplewho sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)I know you have studied these things extensively, soI am confident you can help.Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.
Re: [CTRL] Tonight on History Channel: The Crop Circle Controversy
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:53:40 -0500, Marilyn Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted article [EMAIL PROTECTED], which said: On 29 Jan 01, at 13:43, Carl Amedio wrote: Usually they trot out a couple of elderly guys or some college students who say they made all the crop circles. They must have one heck of a travel allotment. As the y appear all over the world. IMHO, they are made with masers or lasers from satellites, using templates that someone or other drew. Although to just what purpose, I have no idea. Perhaps to keep the uFO controversy going. If they're done by satellites (which I find more plausible than a couple of geysers with two-by-fours) then the purpose would be to gain ultimate control of the people. Create a hoax, let the suspense build, then say it's aliens doing it, and if we don't do as they say, the aliens have threatened to destroy us in probably more words than that. I imagine that most people in the world would be gullible enough to believe such a story. Then the real scientists and intellectuals would become what UFOlogists are now -- that wild and crazy bunch that can't get a grip on reality. Damaeus A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] MC: Red China, BushMob seek to DESTROY West US With HiTech Weather...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01-02-02 17:13:40 EST, you write: Well, please look at the form in which the "message" arrived, below: Jenny Decker Jenny - Some outside electronic intereference is making ALL news messages around this story garbled so we cannot read them. Just today, one garbled message and two blank messages arrived in our email. The news is being blocked and garbled, get it? Alfred A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nazi Firearms Law and the Disarming of the German Jews
-Caveat Lector- "Germany's defeat in World War I heralded the demise of the Second Reich and the birth of the Weimar republic" What innacurate rubbish. The Second Reich was Napoleonic France. The first was, of course, the Roman Empire. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Two faces of globalization
-Caveat Lector- Special AlterNet Coverage: Two Faces of Globalization http://www.alternet.org/global.html Two summits on globalization -- the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland and the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre, Brazil -- faced off this past week in a symbolic battle for the planet's future. Though the Davos meetings were disrupted by massive citizen protests and police violence, and the Porto Alegre meetings were a turning point in the "globalization from below" movement, the mainstream media hardly reported on either gathering. AlterNet has now set up a special coverage page about the Forums, bringing together insightful views from participants, critics and observers: http://www.alternet.org/global.html Please pass this around to any friends or coworkers interested in issues of globalization and democracy. And if you know of any articles or links we're missing, please feel free to pass them along. - the AlterNet staff A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] GUN REFRESHER COURSE
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:46:37 - "c." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- it hasn't been that succesful johannes because comprehensive checkpoints surrounding london are an impossible task. the police clai to use intelligence to know when to use such tactics. i am sure no-one has too much of a problem reaching buck house :) Rubbish. Do you think with the amounts that are spent on the Police and Secret Service they can't keep one city under surveillance? And sure, anyone can wander up to Buckingham palace but when was the last time someone did so armed with more than a pocket knife? This extensive surveillance was why so many people were surprised at the mortar attack on MI 6 HQ last year. Of course it's not infallible, but like I originally said London is under more physical and electronic surveillance than any other city in the world. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [radtimes] # 142
-Caveat Lector- [radtimes] # 142 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- How to assist RadTimes-- (See ** at end.) --- Contents: --Soros, Sweeney Join Criticism of Davos Protest Clampdown --US groups object to Qatar as host for WTO talks --Protesters invade anti-Davos forum in Brazil --U.S. Air Force Prepares Itself to Do Battle in Outer Space --Mounting social costs of prisons --Farmers Destroy Monsanto Lab (Brazil) --DOJ New Search and Seizure Manual --Consumer confidence plunges to lowest level in four years --World Forum Protest Cleanup Begins --The myth of monogamy === Soros, Sweeney Join Criticism of Davos Protest Clampdown By Adrian Croft DAVOS, Switzerland (Reuters) - Billionaire financier George Soros, environmentalists and union leaders added their voices on Monday to a swelling chorus of criticism of police handling of protests against the World Economic Forum summit. Swiss authorities mounted an unprecedented show of force at the weekend to thwart a demonstration by anti-globalization activists opposed to the annual gathering of top business and political leaders at the ritzy Swiss ski resort of Davos. Police stopped many demonstrators from traveling to Davos on Saturday and officials turned back more than 100 suspected demonstrators at the Swiss border. Hundreds of demonstrators who were turned back ran riot on Saturday evening in Zurich, where police fired rubber pellets, teargas and water cannon to disperse protesters who hurled stones at police, set fire to cars and smashed windows. About 100 demonstrators were detained and three police injured. The Swiss protests are the latest in a series of sometimes violent protests against globalization that have become a feature of international meetings from Seattle to Prague. Soros, speaking at a press conference at the World Economic Forum on Monday, said the Swiss authorities' ``excessive precautions were a victory for those who wanted to disrupt Davos...The way it was handled was not a good one.'' Banning the demonstration was probably a mistake, he said, although he said he was not so sure about that ``as the demonstrators were bent on creating trouble.'' Soros said he opposed the methods of the protesters but added: ``I do think they have something to protest about. The global capital system creates a very uneven playing field.'' Union Protest Nine union leaders attending the forum said they had protested to WEF founder Klaus Schwab at ``over-the-top policing that has kept away even peaceful protesters.'' ``We believe in the widest dialogue but what message does the forum send out when it is ringed by armed police, water cannons, security helicopters and wire barricades?'' they said in a statement. The union leaders include Bill Jordan, general secretary of the International Confederation of Free Trade Unions, John Sweeney, president of the U.S. AFL-CIO, and others from Australia, Zambia, Canada, India and Germany. Noel Howell, a spokesman for the union leaders, said the forum had become gradually more inclusive over the last few years but they wanted to see the process go further. ``We've got 12 months with the forum to work out a more inclusive basis for next year which would allow for peaceful protests and dialogue.'' An alliance of environmental and human rights organizations which organized an alternative conference to the WEF in Davos pledged on Sunday to take legal action against Swiss authorities over their handling of the planned protest. Swiss President Moritz Leuenberger has defended the authorities and Schwab has praised the police response. The anti-WEF demonstrators accuse the business and political elite of meeting behind closed doors in Davos to plot a global future that increases the power of multinational corporations at the expense of ordinary people. Organizers reject the accusations and have tried to broaden the scope of the meeting by inviting 36 grassroots organizations to take part this year. === US groups object to Qatar as host for WTO talks http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=9648 January 29, 2001 WASHINGTON - American labor, environmental and family farm groups have urged the US government to oppose the selection of the Gulf state of Qatar to host the next World Trade Organization meeting because of that country's limits on political expression. In a joint statement, the United Steelworkers of America, Friends of the Earth, Public Citizen and other critics of the WTO accused the organization of trying to quash protests that marked the Seattle ministerial meeting in December 1999. "The WTO's
Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane
-Caveat Lector- Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane bollocks. aspirin is just easier to regulate. inri A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IMC NEWS BLAST 02/01/01
-Caveat Lector- IMC NEWS BLAST | Thursday, February 1, 2001 | http://www.indymedia.org A compilation of photos, video, and audio and text reports from the Independent Media Center's coverage of the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre, Brasil, and the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Released Thursday, February 1, 2001. Check the Indymedia newswire -- http://www.indymedia.org - for upcoming translations of this News Blast. OVERVIEW From January 25 to 30, the first World Social Forum convened in Porto Alegre, Brazil. The World Social Forum (WSF) brought together grassroots activists, international NGOs and social movements in the global struggle against neo-liberalism and corporate domination. Planned to coincide with, and provide an active contrast to, the World Economic Forum (WEF), which attracted the richest and most powerful corporations to the Davos, Switzerland, during the same period, to discuss strategies to further increase their profits, the World Social Forum sought to create a place in which those involved in the struggle against globalization could gather to initiate and/or expand dialogues about developing viable alternatives to neo-liberalism. Nearly 10,000 individuals representing social-change organizations from all over the world converged in Porto Alegre for the Forum, and throughout the week they attended workshops and plenaries about creating viable global economic and social structures. Was the summit a groundbreaking convergence of forward-thinking activists or a move to simply "put a human face" on globalization? The World Economic Forum, which held its own annual meeting from January 25 to 30 in Davos, Switzerland, barricaded itself against hundreds of anti-globalization protestors. Founded in 1971 by Swiss-based German entrepreneur Dr. Klaus Schwab, the WEF has grown to become one of the world's most important conventions of "global leaders" such as corporate executive officers and heads of state. The WEF allows multinational corporations unprecedented access to the government decision-makers who influence their industries, and it grants governments an unparalleled opportunity to coordinate their operations with global business. Swiss police vowed not to allow protestors to disrupt the meetings, as activists in Melbourne, Australia certainly did to the September 11th, 2000, WEF meetings there. Did Swiss police succeed in keeping the focus on global capitalism and away from those fighting against it? This Indymedia News Blast will present some highlights of the multimedia, multilingual coverage of the WSF and WEF that appeared on the Indymedia sites from January 25 to 30, 2001. Keep your browser pointed at the Indymedia sites, especially IMC-Brasil (http://brasil.indymedia.org) and IMC-Switzerland (http://switzerland.indymedia.org) for continuing coverage. BACKGROUND comparing the WSF and WEF: MANIFESTO OF THE WORLD SOCIAL FORUM By the World Social Forum collective (21-DEC-2000) The WSF's Manifesto declares that the WSF has formed to strengthen alliances between NGOs, unions and social movements in the effort to develop sustainable alternatives to globalization. It also suggests that the WSF wants people to have greater participation in the IMF, World Bank and WTO, feeding criticisms that WSF planners intend to reform those institutions, rather than fight them. "The World Social Forum will be a new international arena for the creation and exchange of social and economic projects that promote human rights, social justice and sustainable development." http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=15202 (English) DAVOS PORTO ALEGRE: TWO WORLDS CLASH by Patrick Le Hyaric, directeur de l'Humanit (27-JAN-2001) For the first time in its existence, the World Economic Forum in Davos sees itself up against a World Social Forum, meeting in Porto Alegre in the south of Brazil. "In the cold fog of Davos, multi-billionnaires, self-proclaimed world directors, are going to discourse in plush rooms, sheltered from inquisitive eyes, on ways to restart the profit race." http://www.cmaq.net/viewarticle.ch2?articleid=373 (French) WHEN DAVOS MEETS PORTO ALEGRE by Walden Bello (01-FEB-2001) The author, Executive Director of the Bangkok-based Focus on the Global South, contrasts the history-making World Economic Forum in Porto Alegre, a forward-thinking, world-changing event, with the World Economic Forum in Davos, a corporate conference that could only take place behind a wall of overly brutal Swiss police. http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=21404 THE WORLD SOCIAL FORUM --- BACKGROUND: "The Promise of Porto Alegre" --- THE PROMISE OF PORTO ALEGRE By Ignacio Ramonet (22-JAN-2001) The author explains the WSF as the beginning of a new kind of global democracy. "The new century is starting in Porto AlegreAt the start of this new century, the dreamers gathered in Porto Alegre will remind us that globalisation extends to more than
[CTRL] Fw: AGAINST THE CRIMINAL SOLANA - messages of solidarity welcomed! [STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Vladimir Krsljanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 12:20 AM Subject: AGAINST THE CRIMINAL SOLANA - messages of solidarity welcomed! [STOPNATO.ORG.UK] STOP NATO: NO PASARAN! - HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK --- ListBot Sponsor -- Dial 800-555-TELL for FREE long-distance calls. Tell your friends -- forward this message! http://on.linkexchange.com/?ATID=27AID=2144 -- Dear friends in struggle, Every message or gesture of solidarity is welcome. If he will really come, Yugoslav patriots are prepared to meet him with mass demonstrations. If you can't be on our rally, please send us ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) messages of your parties/organizations or your personal ones. They will be either read at the rally or published in: http://www.sps.org.yu/ (official SPS website), or http://www.belgrade-forum.org/ (forum for the world of equals), or http://www.24casa.co.yu/ (the only free daily newspaper in Yugoslavia). Yours Vladimir Krsljanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Head of International Relations Department of the Socialist Party of Serbia Appeal of the Patriotic Alliance of Yugoslavia and of the Anti-NATO Committee of SPS RAISE YOUR VOICE AGAINST THE CRIMINAL SOLANA! The second anniversary of the beginning of the NATO aggression against Yugoslavia is approaching. We must not allow these who ordered aggression, who are responsible for crimes against peace and humanity, for genocide, for death of thousands of civilians, women and children, for humanitarian and environmental catastrophe to rejoice. Javier Solana is one of them. As secretary-general of NATO he ordered aggression to begin on March 24, 1999. And it is exactly him who is readying these days (7th and 8th of February) to come as a guest of the new Belgrade authorities, and as a member of the delegation of the European Union. That we must not allow because it would represent not only an offence to the people of Yugoslavia, but a civilisational embarrassment for Europe. Solana is sentenced by an appropriate Yugoslav court to 20 years of imprisonment for crimes against people of Yugoslavia. At the same time, these are the crimes against all the peoples of the Balkans. He is one of most responsible for the use of the uranium, plutonium and other genocidal materials whose consequences are going to be borne not only by the contemporary generations of Europeans, but also their descendants. For that reason, we call upon all the Yugoslav patriots, all the friends at the Balkans, in Europe and the world, all the people of good will to raise their voice of protest against the attempt tohumiliate Yugoslavia and the Yugoslavs. Gentlemen of the European Union, We appeal to you not to take part in offending and humiliating one European nation that always stood to the defence of European and civilisation values. Do not send us the criminal Javier Solana because he is a symbol of evil not only for the peoples of Balkans, but also for the huge portion of the contemporary humankind. It is upon you to show historical responsibility! PATRIOTIC ALLIANCE OF YUGOSLAVIA ANTI-NATO COMMITTEE OF SPS Belgrade, February 2nd 2001 __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Atlas Shr
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I saw the Iron Sheik on Jerry Springer a couple of months back. It was an episode
where loudmouth husbands got to meet the men their wives were having affairs with, and
the Sheik was still claiming he never lost by submission to Hulk Hogan.
Bob Backlund ran (unsuccessfully) for congress last year, his platform that people
should learn a new word from the dictionary every day couldn't defeat corporate soft
money unfortuantely. The web page is at
http://www.backlund2000.com/
These are the important things you would know if you read
http://leviathan.weblogs.com
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:58:48 -0500 Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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http://modernhumorist.com/mh/0101/rand/
Atlas Shr - A glimpse into an alternate universe where Ayn Rand's
books are all 400 pages shorter
1. ALAN GREENSPAN finished reading Ayn Rand's complete works
seven years earlier. He advanced more quickly into Rand's inner
circle, began his career as an economist in the mid-1960s, and became
chairman of the Federal Reserve Board in 1971. Thanks to his earlier
leadership, there was no oil crisis or recession in the 70s. As a
result, widespread vilification of Arab culture by working class
Americans never came to pass, and the professional wrestling
scapegoat known as The Iron Sheik was never created. This allowed
wrestler Bob Backlund to retain the WWF championship belt in 1983.
2. COLLEGE FRESHMEN vowing to read longest book they could find
in the library, turned not to "Atlas Shrugged" but to the unabridged
"Notre-Dame de Paris." One of these students went on to a position of
power at Walt Disney Pictures, where he nipped in the bud an
ill-conceived plan for an animated version of "The Hunchback of Notre
Dame," thus leaving collaborators Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz
free to work on other projects. Schwartz signed on for a "Pippin"
revival in Liverpool. Bernie Taupin, who had been competing with
Schwartz for the job, was so distraught over not getting it that he
began drinking again, and was in no condition to adapt the lyrics for
"Candle in the Wind" when Princess Diana passed away. Elton John's
own attempt at reworking the lyrics failed to take the world by storm
("Oh Princess Diana / we won't see you mañana") and the international
land mine treaty was never ratified. While crossing the Iran-Iraq
boarder, The Iron Sheik stepped on a mine and was mortally wounded.
On his deathbed, he admitted that he cheated in the 1983 championship
match and insisted that the title be returned to Bob Backlund.
3. RAND'S MORE CONCISE and artistically potent edition of "The
Fountainhead" made for a much better screenplay when it was adapted
in 1949. Galvanized by the script, Gary Cooper turned in the greatest
performance of his career, inspiring many young film-goers to move to
Hollywood and become actors themselves, including the young Iron
Sheik, who settled into a comfortable if undistinguished television
career instead of becoming a pro wrestler. Bob Backlund easily
defeated Greg Valentine in 1983.
4. THE BOOK "ANTHEM," being only 235 pages, was never written,
and so the Canadian power trio Rush never recorded their
"Anthem"-inspired album "2112." Due to the artistic hole gnawing at
him, drummer/lyricist Neil Peart felt stunted, dropped out of the
band, became an alcoholic, and killed the Iron Sheik in a drunk
driving accident on the eve of the 1983 championship match, and Bob
Backlund retained the belt.
5. INFORMED BY SEVERAL PUBLISHERS that "We the Living" was about
400 pages too short, Ayn tried to pad her first manuscript with a new
preface discussing the European impact of the Bolshevik revolution.
During her research at the Gregorian University in Rome, she met a
handsome young student named Albino Luciani. Though she was a married
woman and he was ordained a priest, they were able to keep their
torrid affair a secret until Albino was elected Pope in 1978, taking
the name John Paul I. Almost immediately, an embittered Nathaniel
Branden released his memoir "My Year with Ayn Rand." The ensuing
scandal forced John Paul I to choose between his office and the woman
he loved, and he abdicated after only 33 days as pontiff. His
successor Kozrow Vaziri took the name "Pope the Iron Sheik," but died
on his first day. Kozrow's legacy was honored by his successor Karol
Wojtyla who became "Pope the Iron Sheik II", as prophesized in the
third and fifth secrets of Fatima. Last year, Bob Backlund ran for
U.S. Senator from Connecticut.
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[CTRL] The ULTIMATE Murder By Badge
http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/starticles/2001/feb/army020101.htm CALIFORNIA POLICE-STATE COVER-UP - The ULTIMATE "Murder By Badge" By Mel Young - Posted: 02.01.01 Unarmed man shot over 100 times by police. Hello out "there", does anyone give a damn? The victim of this most heinous crime and cover-up was a white, American male. That means, he had no civil rights. That means the Revvveeernnd, rcist Jackson wouldnt lift his little finger in response, let alone get out of bed with his concubine to race to California with Maxine Waters and Al Sharpton sucking up behind him. Jesse didnt make that pile, estimated to be over $27 million bucks, standing up for white folk who had their civil rights violated and their lives taken by the militarized, police-state thugs with badges and guns. Being a white male, the victim deserved no respect from the major media. Sure, an article was buried in the LA Times Metro section. There may even have been some short blurbs; the police version, of course, on the evening news, but, since the cops said this man was a freeway shooter and suicidal, that was all she wrote. I mean, what the hell, we all know that a smiling, usually female or minority "spokesperson" for the cops wouldnt lie to us, would they! And, were not talking about one or two rogue cops here. We are talking about at least twenty-two officers and possibly, many more from three distinct agencies; all involved in the massive cover-up. Those agencies include the California Highway Patrol, the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department and the City of Hawthorne Police Department. There well may have been others, but this is a start. Back before Christmas, I received an e-mail from Constance Flaum, mother of the victim, pleading for someone; anyone, to step up and get involved to bring the doers of this foul deed to justice. What I read in that initial plea for help sickened and disgusted me and I responded. Previously, a number of "honest" cops, former cops, forensics experts, crime scene investigators, and even the Chief Medical Examiner of the County Of San Bernardino, sickened by what they heard, had volunteered to help. Some came from other parts of the state and some well may have come from other states. They were not welcomed with open arms by the powers-that-be. Naturally, the police were not friendly. The "brotherhood" was protecting its own - oaths of office, the public trust, honesty, integrity, etc., be damned. The crucial video tape taken by the roving, independent, night television news crew had been confiscated. The crew had been frightened to the point where they had nothing to say. Paramedics who rushed to the scene and pronounced the victim dead had been hushed up and would not talk to anyone. The victims mother paid an attorney a hundred bucks to get her a complete copy of the police report but the 440 page report she received is incomplete with numerous pages missing. The "official" police report is so full of obvious distortions, errors, and blatant falsifications that its more like reading fiction than fact. The only cooperative agency, according to the mother of the victim, was the Los Angeles County Coroners Office. Their autopsy report is some 88 pages in length. ATTEMPTED CITIZENS ARREST OF OFFICERS INVOLVED. At one point, desperate for some sort of action to be taken against the officers involved in the murder, the mother and widow of the victim served arrest warrants at the Hawthorne Police Department, Lennox Substation of the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department and to the California Highway Patrol. Naturally, they were all but laughed out of those agencies, who had no intention of allowing a citizen to arrest one or more of their own. Nothing came of the attempt. WIDOW BOUGHT OFF...LAWSUIT DROPPED. Sadly, the victim had not been very wise in the way of the world and had "fallen" at age 27, for a woman twenty-two years his senior with a new facelift, and had married her. One could speculate as to what might have driven the poor guy to drink in the first place but I wont get into that here. Allegations have been made that the widow, about 61 years old at the time of death of her husband had at age 39 some slightly shady business dealings in her past, involving her real estate business. She made a quick, out-of-court settlement with the sheriffs department for $70,000 bucks and an agreement that they would not look into her past financial dealings. With her acceptance of the payoff, the lawsuits were dropped. Under California law, only the spouse or child of a legally married person may bring a wrongful death lawsuit. The cops figured they were home free for that seventy grand. BLATANT INDIFFERENCE AT ALL LEVELS. Letters were written to Governor Davis, Attorney General Dan "run-with-your-guns" Lundgren, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, the major television networks, and then on to Soddom-on-the-Potomac; including
[CTRL] Megalithic Science, Harmonics Energy Grids
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com.au/Articles/Megalithic%20Science.html Megalithic Science, Harmonics Energy Grids By BRUCE L. RAPHAEL I have been collating site data since 1984 with emphasis on geodetic placement of archaeological anomalies in Australia and their relationship to the earth’s energy grids. My background in rock-art research, and my academic background in marine sciences (at the Bermuda Biological Station in the 70’s and at the University of Hartford in environmental studies) and geography perhaps lead me to this area of research. I wasn’t discouraged by the director of AURA (Australia’s rock art research bureau), Robert Bednarik’s comment that from his professional analysis, there is no evidence of a megalithic entrada of people before colonial settlement and if there was, is this proof of some conspiracy or coverup on the part of the collective research done by academic professionals? In this article I wish to present the evidence of a megalithic science which is defined as the use of stone menhirs to define places which link the visitor to the conditions of ritual: 1) a comforting holy space that links earth with heaven, 2) a mathematical quotient that ties the participant to the energy grid and its message and, 3) the celestial equation — astronomical placement of earth-sun-moon-stars at the viewing station. My collated research provides support to Marilyn Pye’s findings. Her absence from the media and eclectic circles has allowed all involved the preparation time to face our opponents. Working silently from 1985 to the present, ensuring the evidence was verifiable and synchronised with current archaeological issues, I waited patiently for Marilyn to come to her conclusions and go public with her story. An important book to read is Oppenheimer’s Eden of the East which outlines the basic theory that the earth’s cataclysms from around 8000 BCE contributed to a science of the dreaming, a world myth that required a rebuilding of the balance between heaven and earth, earth weather metastability, seasonal variation, and cultural resettlement as depicted by the search for new territories by cultures in collision as represented by the myths of the twins, brothers or variant bloodlines as in the Cain and Able story. Oppenheimer was aware of very little news of our lost civilisation issues here in Australia, with much of his extensive research pointing to New Guinea and the Polynesian express theory, Lapita culture evidence, and the spread of a metaphysical heritage from Southeast Asia into the West. Australian ethnographers are well aware of the role of the Rainbow Serpent in Aboriginal legends about the flood epic. Many legends record the disappearance of the moon and sky. The action of great flooding brought about the collapse of the Sundra Shelf and hence sent further maritime expeditions away from the coastlines of Vietnam, China and Thailand. The question of South American and Middle Eastern presence is an additional string in a long chain of events that brought many entradas to Australia. Keeping in touch with Marilyn Pye and her story has been an ongoing pursuit since 1984 when I first came to Australia to look at the evidence. I tracked her activities in my journal for over 15 years trying to keep an accurate record of her movements and acquisitions. Her relaunch of her theory and findings will contribute greatly now to a new millennium of controversy. Her quest to find and discover the Golden Pyramid along with her quiet digs and geological surveys in Cooktown is where the story truly begins. I spent the last 10 years mapping and surveying sites that were connected in energy-grid dynamics to the Cooktown question and found some amazing results. In this article I will focus on four sites that have mathematical configurations based on the Cathian lunar grid. How many grids are there now? Munck’s, Haartman’s Neutral Grid, the Becker-Hagan Solar Grid, and the Cathian Lunar Grid, to mention the most popular. Since 1984 I had many correspondences with Bruce Cathie and in one of them he assisted me in getting started on how the data stacked up in grid math. The sites are: Ayers Rock (Marker R), Aboriginal Stonehenge (Marker H), Marilyn’s site (Marker B), and Marker E-Series the Astronomical Observatory at Mt. Carbine. In my book Rhythms in the Landscape, I inform the reader that if an ancient race were able to position any of these sites correctly on existing grid lines, they would by using a language that was not quite music, not quite alphabet, as we know it. An American epigrapher and rock-art researcher Charles Boyle had put forth a new process in the chapter of “reading the record accurately” of ancient stone writings and megalithic statements. His focus was on the Gaelic science of Teanga. This he stated could be worked into any language so it was universal — a solar-based wisdom. So I was able to view the
Re: [CTRL] Stealth tactics, Moonies and the art of cynicism
-Caveat Lector- Stealth tactics, Moonies and the art of cynicism By Carla Binion -- From Bob Dylan's "Man of Peace" "Look out your window, baby./There's a scene you'll like to catch. A band is playin' Dixie./A man's got his hand outstretched. Could be the fuhrer,/Could be the local priest. Sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace." You do not need to subscribe to any orthodox religion or believe in "Satan" other than symbolically in order to appreciate the Dylan lyrics and see how they might apply to the political scene today. Effective activists have always advised the American people not to settle for peace at any price if they want improved social conditions, but to instead do as African-American activist Frederick Douglass once suggested and "agitate, agitate, agitate." Today, as George W. Bush reaches out to woo church groups and senate Democrats and put them into a virtual trance of peace and bipartisan harmony, it seems that maybe he picked up a tip from his dad's longtime supporter, Rev. Sun Myung Moon. Moonies practice a technique they call "love bombing." One former Moonie (Barbara Underwood, "Hostage to Heaven," Clarkson N. Potter, 1979) defines love bombing as a "persistent psychological effort to disarm a skeptical recruit by showering him with excessive attention and love" in order to win him over. We have all heard the old aphorisms, "kill your opponent with kindness," and "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." Bush now takes political schmoozing to unprecedented heights, but for what ultimate purpose? Bush's White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives is reaching out to churches to encourage church-based social service programs, a move reporter Bruce Shapiro (Salon, 2/1/01) describes as building a political "patronage machine." G. W. is also reaching out to Democrats, and has invited members of the Kennedy family to the White House to watch a movie about the Cuban missile crisis. Today, Friday 2/2/01, Bush visited the opening of a Senate Democratic retreat, telling the senators, "Some may think I'm naive to rid the system of rancor, but that's my intent." Naive is not the description that leaps to mind. The term "opportunistic stealth tactic" seems more appropriate. What will be the next Bush co-opting gesture? A little back rub to go with that movie popcorn? Singing inspirational agape-style love songs on the Senate floor? The halls of government have been used for more worthwhile purposes in the past. For example, when a scandal broke in 1976 involving Sun Myung Moon, an eventual political backer of President George H. W. Bush, then-U. S. Rep. Donald Fraser (D-MN) headed the congressional committee investigating the scandal. Frasier noted that among Moonies any objection to Moon, who repeatedly refers to himself as "the Messiah," and his clandestine political activity in the U.S. was considered "infidelity to Master and was like being disobedient to God." (Fraser Report, p. 320.) George H. W. Bush was Director of the CIA at the time the Koreagate scandal broke. According to Robert Boettcher, staff director of the Fraser committee, (Boettcher, "Gifts of Deceit: Sun Myung Moon, Tongsun Park and the Korean Scandal," Holt, Rinehart, Winston, 1980), Koreagate involved a congressional investigation into the following: (1) Moonies allegedly acting as unregistered agents of a foreign intelligence service, the Korean CIA. (2) Moon's alleged violation of laws on taxes, banking, charity fraud, and arms export control. (3) Moon's allegedly being secretly paid by the Korean CIA to disrupt an official visit of the Prime Minister of Japan. (4) Moon's allegedly smuggling large amounts of money into the U. S. and allegedly smuggling in hundreds of aliens under the guise of his "students" in order to put them to work in his businesses. (5) Moon's allegedly negotiating, as an unregistered agent of the Korean government, for the manufacture and export of M-16 rifles. 6) Moon's allegedly infiltrating offices of Senators and Congressmen with covert agents who reported details of personal lives for Moon's card file. (7) Moon's allegedly at one time refusing to answer questions about the above activities before a subcommitte of Congress. (8) Moon's minion, Bo Hi Pak's allegedly collecting $1 million from Americans under the guise of a "Children's Relief Fund," and then using 93 percent of the money to pay public relations people ... and a wide variety of other charges. Robert Boettcher interviewed a number of ex-Moonies and reported to the Fraser committee. He said in "Gifts of Deceit" that the Moon organization frequently lied to people in order to recruit them and allegedly held some people against their will. Boettcher said, "Some former members recall Nazi films on organizing Hitler Youth were shown as examples
Re: [CTRL] Pollitt-No Olive Branch
-Caveat Lector-
GO BUSH! GO ASHCROFT!
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:42:47 EST William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
http://www.thenation.com/docPrint.mhtml?i=20010219s=pollitt
COLUMN | February 19, 2001
KATHA POLLITT
No Olive Branch: Subject to Debate
How many times did we hear during the endless campaign that Bush
wouldn't go
after abortion if elected? Republicans, Naderites and countless
know-it-alls
and pundits in between agreed: Pro-choice voters were too powerful,
the
country was too divided, the Republicans weren't that stupid and
Bush didn't
really care about abortion anyway. Plus whoever won would have to
(all
together now) "govern from the center." Where are all those smarties
now, I
wonder? Bush didn't even wait for his swearing-in ceremony to start
repaying
the immense debt he owes to the Christian right, which gave him one
in four
of his votes, with the nominations of anti-choice die-hards John
Ashcroft for
Attorney General and Tommy Thompson to head Health and Human
Services.
On his first full day in office, Bush reinstated the "gag rule"
preventing
international family-planning clinics and NGOs from receiving US
funds if
they so much as mention the word "abortion." (This action was widely
misrepresented in the press as being a ban on funding for performing
abortions; in fact, it bans clinics that get US aid from performing
abortions
with their own money and prohibits speech--whether lobbying for
legal changes
in countries where abortion is a crime or informing women with life-
or
health-threatening pregnancies about their legal options.) A few
days later,
Thompson announced he would look into the safety of RU-486, approved
by the
FDA this past fall--a drug that has been used by half a million
European
women over twelve years and has been more closely studied here than
almost
any drug on the market. In the wake of Laura Bush's remark to NBC
News and
the Today show that she favored retention of Roe v. Wade, both the
President
and the Vice President said the Administration has not ruled out a
legal
challenge to it, placing them to the right of Ashcroft himself, who
told the
Judiciary Committee he regarded Roe as settled law (at least until
the makeup
of the Supreme Court changes, he did not add).
Don't count on the media to alert the public. The press is into
champagne and
confetti: Who would have thought "Dick" Cheney would be such an
amiable talk
show guest! Time to move on, compromise, get busy with that big tax
cut. "Who
in hell is this 'all' we keep hearing about?" a friend writes, "as
in 'all
agree' that the Bush transition has been a smashing success?" An
acquaintance
at the Washington Post, whose executive editor, Leonard Downie Jr.,
claims to
be so objective he doesn't even vote, says word has come down from
"on high"
that stories must bear "no trace of liberal bias"--interestingly, no
comparable warnings were given against pro-Bush bias. So, on
abortion, look
for endless disquisitions on the grassiness of the anti-choice
roots, the
elitism of pro-choicers and the general tedium of the abortion
issue. Robin
Toner could barely stifle a yawn as she took both sides to task in
the New
York Times ("The Abortion Debate, Stuck in Time," January 21): Why
couldn't
more anti-choicers see the worth of stem cell research, like
anti-choice
Senator Gordon Smith, who has several relatives afflicted with
Parkinson's
(but presumably no relatives unwillingly pregnant); and why can't
more
pro-choicers acknowledge that sonograms "complicate" the status of
the fetus?
In an article that interviewed not a single woman, only the fetus
matters:
not sexuality, public health, women's bodies, needs or rights.
Now is the time to be passionate, clever, original and urgent. I
hate to say
it, but pro-choicers really could learn some things from the antis,
and I
don't mean the arts of arson, murder and lying to the Judiciary
Committee.
Lots of right-wing Christians tithe--how many pro-choicers write
significant
checks to pro-choice and feminist organizations? Why not sit down
today and
send President Bush a note saying that in honor of the women in his
family
you are making a donation to the National Network of Abortion Funds
to pay
for a poor woman's abortion (NNAF: Hampshire College, Amherst MA
01002-5001)?
March 10 is the Day of Appreciation for Abortion Providers--send
your local
clinic money for an abortion "scholarship," flowers, a thank-you
note, a
bottle of wine, a Nation subscription for the waiting room! (Refuse
Resist
has lots of ideas and projects for that day--call them at
212-713-5657.)
The antis look big and powerful because they have a built-in base in
the
Catholic and fundamentalist churches. But (aha!) pro-choicers have a
built-in
constituency too: the millions and millions of women who have had
abortions.
For all sorts of reasons (privacy concerns,
[CTRL] Media Ignore Questions About Incident That Sparked Kosovo War
MEDIA ADVISORY:
DOUBTS ON A MASSACRE:
Media Ignore Questions About Incident That Sparked Kosovo War
February 1, 2001
In 1999, the discovery of bodies in the Kosovo village of Racak helped push
NATO into war. New evidence casting doubt on claims that the bodies were
civilian victims of a massacre has stirred debate in the European media-- but
there has been a virtual blackout on the news in the U.S. press.
In January of 1999, the American head of the Organization for Security and
Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) mission in Kosovo announced that 45 Kosovar
Albanians from the village of Racak had been massacred by Serb soldiers. U.S.
diplomat William Walker condemned the killings as a "horrendous" massacre,
stating that the dead were all civilians who had been brutally executed, many
of them mutilated after death.
Once the massacre story was reported in heart-wrenching detail by media
across the globe, pressure for war intensified and previously reluctant
European allies took a major step toward authorizing airstrikes. A Washington
Post article (4/18/99) reconstructing the Kosovo decision-making process
found that "Racak transformed the West's Balkan policy as singular events
seldom do."
Troubling questions soon emerged, however, about whether or not there had
actually been a massacre at Racak, or whether the incident had been
manipulated to push NATO into war-- questions almost completely ignored by
the U.S. media at the time.
Front-page news articles by veteran Yugoslavia correspondents questioning
William Walker's account were published in French newspapers like Le Figaro
("Dark Clouds Over a Massacre," 1/20/99) and Le Monde ("Were the Dead in
Racak Really Massacred in Cold Blood?," 1/21/99). The German daily Berliner
Zeitung reported in March (3/13/99) that several European governments,
including Germany and Italy, were pressing the OSCE to fire William Walker
based on information from OSCE monitors in Kosovo that the Racak bodies "were
not-- as Walker declared-- victims of a Serbian massacre of civilians," but
were mostly KLA fighters killed in battle.
The Sunday Times of London (3/12/00) reported that Walker's team of American
observers was covertly working with the CIA, pursuing a policy intended to
push NATO into war. "European diplomats then working for the OSCE claim it
was betrayed by an American policy that made airstrikes inevitable," the
Sunday Times reported.
After the massacre, the European Union hired a Finnish team of forensic
pathologists to investigate the deaths. Their report was kept secret until
now, two years later. The U.S. media is ignoring the story, despite the
report's finding that although people did indeed die at Racak, there is no
evidence of a massacre.
According to the Berliner Zeitung (1/16/01), the Finnish investigators could
not establish that the victims were civilians, whether they were from Racak,
or even exactly where they had been killed. Furthermore, the investigators
found only one body that showed traces of an execution-style killing, and no
evidence at all that the bodies had been mutilated.
The Berliner Zeitung also reports that these findings were completed as early
as June 2000, but that their publication had been blocked by the UN and the
EU.
Except for one brief wire story from United Press International (1/18/01),
not a single U.S. media outlet has run a story on the Finnish team's
findings. News outlets continue to refer to the Racak massacre without
qualification, despite the cloud of uncertainty hanging over the story.
A recent Chicago Tribune report (1/23/01) about the Albanian separatist
militia in southern Serbia speculated that the Serbs might "revert to form
and respond to an Albanian provocation with a Racak-style retaliation." (The
KLA-linked militia, called the UCPMB, are reportedly preparing for a new war
and recently fired on British KFOR troops-- London Guardian, 1/26/01.) The
Tribune made no mention of any questions surrounding the Racak incident.
A recent Philadelphia Inquirer story (1/23/01) about Yugoslavia's
relationship with the war crimes tribunal at The Hague claimed that "Serbs
refuse to accept the world's vision of them as aggressors," and noted that
Yugoslav president Vojislav Kostunica "alleges the killings [at Racak] were
staged to look like a massacre to embarrass Yugoslavia." The Finnish team's
findings about Racak, which prompted Kostunica's recent allegations, went
unmentioned.
An Associated Press article (1/18/01) did elliptically note the new report's
existence, reporting that Kostunica wants to discuss with The Hague "reports
attributed to Finnish pathologists saying there was no evidence of a Serb
massacre" at Racak (1/18/01).
With tensions in southern Serbia mounting and fears of a new Kosovo war
escalating daily, the U.S. media's silence on this story is troubling.
Re: [CTRL] Pollitt-No Olive Branch
In a message dated 2/2/01 7:43:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GO BUSH! GO ASHCROFT! Ra ra...yea' team...(I don't care WHAT you do wrong as long as you WIN!!!) Insipid and ignorant lassey...not suprising, just sad. Bill.
Re: [CTRL] GUN REFRESHER COURSE
-Caveat Lector- no. not rubbish- you are over ove estimating the value of the cameras. and it is impossible to checkpoint a city in the way you implied. you are living in dreamland if you think there is ANY of terrorists being unable attack a target in loindon because of the cameras and/ or checkpoints. - Original Message - From: "Johannes Schmidt III" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2001 00:18 Subject: Re: [CTRL] GUN REFRESHER COURSE -Caveat Lector- On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:46:37 - "c." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- it hasn't been that succesful johannes because comprehensive checkpoints surrounding london are an impossible task. the police clai to use intelligence to know when to use such tactics. i am sure no-one has too much of a problem reaching buck house :) Rubbish. Do you think with the amounts that are spent on the Police and Secret Service they can't keep one city under surveillance? And sure, anyone can wander up to Buckingham palace but when was the last time someone did so armed with more than a pocket knife? This extensive surveillance was why so many people were surprised at the mortar attack on MI 6 HQ last year. Of course it's not infallible, but like I originally said London is under more physical and electronic surveillance than any other city in the world. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [nandotimes] O'Hair disappearance--FBI believes remains are missing atheist leader
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well Tenorlove - this item on O'Hai you might find interesting - looks almost like a Mafia job. Too sloppy. If the mafia had done it, the remains would never have been found, ala Jimmy Hoffa and Judge Crater They apparently located the remains by heavying one of the guys suspected of the murder until he showed them where the bodies were. I'd guess he made an agreement with them to get a lenient sentence (if not immunity) for his co-operation, which is the way most mobsters behave nowadays. What attracted these killers to O'Hairshe did hae some gold pieces and I wonder from where. She claimed to be an anarchist - and had a few followersbut someone took a great deal of time and trouble to put this woman to death - and it sure wasn't over money. What I find strange is that it took a year before she was reported missing. I can understand why it took the sone that long to contact the police, since he was estranged from his mother and supposedly did not keep in close touch with her. But you would think that at least one of the many people who worked for and with her in her organizations would have reported her disappearance. Didn't she have one friend in the world who cared about her welfare? This was a genuine mystery, one of the most perplexing of last century. She was a fairly reclusive person, and had had threats, so most people seemed to assume she was in hiding. A witness at the murder trial claimed to have seen her in Eastern Europe (presumably he was mistaken). There was even an article in Steamshovel I think (or maybe Paranoia) suggesting she might be hiding out with Larry Flynt working on some project. Phil Donahue made great efforts to find her as a guest for his final show (she was on the first one) but despite numerous detectives combing the globe was unsuccesful. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Watergate verdict
-Caveat Lector- The sort of news you will read at htp://leviathan.weblogs.com Bookmark it! Make it your homepage! Make it someone else's homepage! http://www.theage.com.au/news/2001/02/03/FFXQMFD7PIC.html Jury deadlock on Watergate call-girl theory By MANUEL ROIG-FRANZIA BALTIMORE Saturday 3 February 2001 The wildcat notion that the Watergate burglary was intended to cover up a call-girl ring has been catapulted out of the realm of fringe conspiracy theories by a deadlocked jury that leant heavily towards siding with the scenario's leading proponent, Gordon Liddy. Four hours after the jury announced that it could not reach a verdict, United States District Court judge Frederick Motz dismissed a defamation lawsuit filed against Mr Liddy by Ida "Maxie" Wells, a Louisiana college teacher who was a secretary at the Democratic National Committee headquarters during the Watergate break-in. Mr Liddy has said in at least two speeches that John Dean, a lawyer for former president Richard Nixon, orchestrated the break-in to steal pictures of scantily clad prostitutes, including Dean's then girlfriend, Maureen Biner, from Ms Wells' desk. After seven hours of deliberation, jurors said they were deadlocked at 7-2, with occasional 8-1 votes. The jury's votes reflected the majority's belief that Ms Wells' lawyers failed to disprove Mr Liddy's statements about the call-girl theory and the pictures that were supposedly kept in her desk. The three-week trial was the first courtroom test of the call-girl theory, which also is espoused by the authors of several revisionist histories. The outcome means that Mr Liddy, whose conservative radio talk show is syndicated nationally on 200 stations, will be able to continue talking about Ms Wells and his theory. Mr Liddy and his lawyers said the resolution vindicated their contention that further examination was needed of the conventional theory that the Watergate break-in was designed to collect political information about Mr Nixon's Democratic opponents. "John Dean has just had a stake driven through his heart, and I pounded it in there," Mr Liddy, 70, said as he left the courtroom. David Dorsen, a lawyer for Ms Wells, said she probably would appeal. Ms Wells, who testified in the first week of the trial, cast herself as a naive girl from Mississippi before moving to Washington. She said Mr Liddy's comments hurt her reputation. - WASHINGTON POST A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Flags (was: Ashcroft-The Artful Dodger)
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bet you fly the Gay Pride flag but would burn the Confederate and all for which it stands? Don't know about Samantha, but I know _I_ would burn the Confederate flag 'and all for which it stands for', in a heartbeat... As for the 'Gay Pride' flag...well, that's a funny thing... Seems that for years, the guys who fly the really huge (23 feet by 18 feet), expensive kites down at the beach where I also fly, had at least one of these 'rainbow' flags to fly off the line of the big kites (these kites pull 1000 to 2000 pounds)... These guys are married and straight. The rainbow flag had nothing to do with 'gay pride' to them, these flags were marketed in almost every kite retail outlet, both physical stores and online. If anything, people equated the rainbow flag to the "Rainbow Coalition", which originally only meant civil rights for people of all colors... Then suddenly the rainbow flag got hyped as the 'symbol of gay pride'...and the kite fliers at the beach never flew theirs again... ;-) Two years ago, 2 gay guys came along and were totally overwhelmed with the sight of all those really huge, rainbow-colored kites in the sky...and one of them announced that he was going to buy himself one to fly the following month at a gay pride festival being held at a park in Hartford...because he announced that such a kite, in rainbow colors, certainly was an appropriate symbol of gay pride...(bet he was in for a bit of a shock when, if he really did pursue buying one of these things, that the cost of the kite, matching 25-foot spinsocks, 300-foot tube tail, and all the necessary rig to launch, fly, and keep it anchored runs $2000 to $2500)...not to mention understanding the DANGER involved in trying to handle one of those things without training)... I have a rainbow-colored windsock in the shape of a trout. These too have been marketed in kite outlets for years (we attach various types of windsocks not only to kites, but to the flying line as "line candy")... This past summer, someone started selling these windsocks on Ebay, hyping them as "show your gay pride, fly one of these rainbow-colored trout windsocks"...so apparently I now have a gay fish... ;-) Next we'll be hearing that all those St. Patricks Day images of pots of gold at the end of rainbows shows gay Irish pride... ;-) So the point I'm trying to make is, just because someone is flying a rainbow-colored item does NOT necessarily mean they are making a statement regarding homosexuality... ;-) June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Flags (was: Ashcroft-The Artful Dodger)
In a message dated 2/2/01 9:26:18 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't know about Samantha, but I know _I_ would burn the Confederate flag 'and all for which it stands for', in a heartbeat... Me too...and have actually... Bill.
Re: [CTRL] Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane
-Caveat Lector- Kelly wrote: -Caveat Lector- Scientists say cannabis can drive users insane http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2001/0201/breaking9.htm Last updated: 08:32 Far from being a relatively harmless "soft" drug, cannabis can drive people temporarily insane as well as harming the heart, lungs and immune system, British scientists said today. Studies showed that the drug can have serious effects on both mental and physical health. Dr Andrew Johns, from the Institute of Psychiatry in London, said regular cannabis use led to acute psychological problems in a high proportion of people. One study found 15 per cent of cannabis users identified psychotic symptoms such as hearing voices or irrational feelings of persecution. A number of reports, reviewed by Dr Johns in the British Journal of Psychiatry, suggested the drug could induce psychosis in people with no history of severe mental illness. One of my pet theories is that pothead paranoia is generated by the extrinsic legal risks which are involved with cannabis, thanks to our psychotic governments. By the way, does anyone know what percentage of the total population shows psychotic symptoms? -- Mark McHugh It is not a sign of good health to be well adjusted to a sick society. -J. Krishnamurti A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Karl Rove, Herr Goebbels would be proud of you
-Caveat Lector- On 31 Jan 01, at 14:56, radman wrote: That last one illustrates the beauty of Rove's brazen approach. Lie and then call your opponent a liar. Demand hand recounts where they favor you and then call your opponent a criminal for demanding hand recounts where they favor him. Go AWOL and then accuse your opponent of hating the military. Yep, this really is the strategy. And it has the advantage of giving even a "thinking" person a headache, the kind of headache that just makes you shake your head real hard and pray that the world will just goes away.Total doublespeak. Totally intimidating in that it puts any honest person on the defensive. Instantly. sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ashcroft-The Artful Dodger
-Caveat Lector- We all know that it perfectly okay for liars to sit in the highest offices of the land. The 'polls' say so for the last 8 years. Not only that, but one step further: If you are NOT a liar, the liars will torture you, trying to keep you out of office Let's put the LIARS in the torture chair. NOT A ONE OF THEM COULD SURVIVE THE BRIGHT LIGHT OF TRUTH On Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:53:45 EST "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Several Senators, including but not limited to Kennedy, Boxer, Reid and Leahy pointed out where Ashcroft misrepresented the facts and was "just plain wrong." They did this by refuting his sworn testimony with quotes from his own former speeches, and from the public record, including court records. If you listened to their presentations and ignored their validity, then you are simply not able to absorb these plain facts. He misrepresented Ronnie White's record on death penalty cases. He misrepresented the facts when he said he did not vote against Hormel due to his sexual preference - in an earlier interview about the case he revealed his opinion that Hormel's lifestyle was not conducive to the position in Luxembourg. He lied when he said that the State of MO was not a party to the desegregation cases re St. Louis. The record on the matter is plain. He lied when he said he felt Roe v Wade was settled law. He has vowed to do everything in his power for the rest of his life to see that it is overturned. It is the defining issue of his life, apparently. He said he didn't know what The Southern Partisan was all about when he granted the interview. Not knowing what they were about, how is it that he could have praised them for their ability to "set the record straight" on important issues? His reply was that one of his assistants had praised the magazine to him beforehand, and so he said what he said. I do not find that answer credible at all. These and other points were all covered very well in the hearings and on the Senate Floor. Every single one of the points made against Ashcroft were supported by the public record, including his own speeches, interviews and court cases. It's amusing that you would use the argment that if he lied, the pack of jackals would have been all over him. The "pack" was all over him during the hearings and on the floor. Case after case and point after point were made and supported by facts in the public record. Your argument is weak and silly, and similar to the bizarre argument made by several Senators, including Hatch, that if John Ashcroft were so terrible, why would the good people of MO have voted for him so often? Turn that argument around on the so-called liberals the right wing defames constantly. Why have the good people of Massachusetts, Vermont, California, New York and Nevada, to name a few, repeatedly voted for them? Your arguments in defense of Ashcroft are laughable, as were the arguments of the Senators who supported him in defiance of the very plain and substantial public record. What is not laughable is that this very weird and vicious man is now Attorney General. By the way, do you have to "forward" every time you reply to something? It pushes the subject title into oblivion. Samantha In a message dated 2/1/01 9:32:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The "settled law" to which Ashcroft referred was the fact that the abortion laws were already on the books, ergo "settled" and not being currently debated. He enforced those laws without regard to his personal beliefs. Please present your proof of his perjury. If it is anything like your concept of what was being said with the "settled law" issue, I am not too worried about it. If any proof there had been, that pack of jackals would have been all over it. After all, the man has been in public service for 38 years. I think his record has been checked out a few times already. Amelia A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] Killer Cats
-Caveat Lector- Go through all y'r favorite gun control literature, either pro or con, and substitute the word CAT for the word GUN. Tenorlove From "Wired News" 02-01-2001 Killer Cats Whiskers the cat may purr during the day but at night he turns into a serial killer, Britain's Mammal Society said on Wednesday. Britain's 7.5 million domestic cats kill up to 300 million animals and birds a year, according to the Society's survey "Look What the Cat's Brought In." According to the survey, cats wearing bells killed more -- probably because they have to be stealthier in order to keep their bells quiet. Cats in the country out-hunted town cats, and young cats killed more than older cats. "Generally, the two-year-olds killed the most, although some of the very biggest killers were the grizzled and really experienced eight and nine-year-olds," the survey said. The victims included 15 million rabbits, 1.5 million harvest mice, three million rats and 230,000 bats. The survey estimated the cats also killed "alarming" numbers of reptiles and amphibians, including four million frogs, 370,000 lizards, 700,000 worms and 80,000 grass snakes. "They are certainly putting pressure on reptiles, which may have found that gardens are a haven away from inhospitable agricultural land," the survey said. __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Chemtrails over SF Bay Area
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 17:43:25 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: SNET: Chemtrails over SF Bay Area To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The stripes in the sky were TERRIBLE over Washington D.C. last SUNDAY and several days last week. ALL day the planes were cris-crossing, spraying for hours. It was impossible to not notice, there were s many white lines. I guess it is not yet time to stop. Too many people still breathing. -- On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 16:08:39 -0800 Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - SNETNEWS Mailing List I took this shot a few minutes ago with my web cam, looking to the east in Corte Madera, CA. You can also see them on the local satellite image right now at: http://kauai.nrlmry.navy.mil Take care Steve --- End of forwarded message --- ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is Not Is
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.lewrockwell.com/yates/yates26.html }}Begin The Great Struggle: Republic Or Empire? by Steven Yates I smell fear. Teddy Chappaquid I mean Teddy Kennedy, of course didnt like John Ashcroft at all. Not long after the hearings were under way, it was revealed that Ashcroft had once made some highly politically incorrect remarks about the threat of "tyrannical central government," and also expressed sympathy toward issues of state sovereignty and even Southern heritage. He has spent his career opposing the centralization Kennedy and his ilk have been building up. Ashcroft got confirmed by a vote of 58-42 in the U.S. Senate. But Kennedys leftist buddies have put the Bushies on notice: you have your token "right winger" dont try this again! Kennedy, who has never worked outside of government in his life, illustrates as well as any one person how the dominant philosophy of government in Americas centers of power has reversed since the countrys founding. Ive no doubt that the Framers would be horrified by the kind of career politician Kennedy exemplifies. And they would have been right. Career politicians spend their lives (and millions of taxpayer dollars) betraying this countrys founding document, which was intended as a permanent and absolute (not a "living, evolving") limitation on central power. So again, I smell fear in the liberals attacks on Ashcroft. They tried unsuccessfully to get him because they fear he will not enforce laws that are unconstitutional and should never have been passed in the first place. He has said otherwise. He has promised to uphold the laws of the land regardless of his beliefs. It is too bad that he doesnt go further in the direction of freedom the liberals fear. But then again, if he did, he would have had no chance at all. The Ashcroft hearings offer just one more roadmap toward the Great Struggle currently underway the struggle to define this country. Newly minted President Bush Jr., whether he knows it or not (and Im not sure he does) is caught right in the middle. Here is the question of our historical moment: Do we want to live in a federation of sovereign states where the locus of control is, indeed, local, and in which law-abiding adult citizens have sovereignty their lives, personal resources, businesses and communities? Or do we want to live in a centralized, bureaucratized empire, where what isnt micromanaged by the central government is controlled by government-favored international megaconglomerates, all paid for through ever-higher rates of taxation? When Thomas Jefferson penned the Declaration of Independence, it was a declaration that the original 13 colonies were seceding from an empire, that of the British. The Framers, when they wrote the U.S. Constitution, attempted to give us a federation of sovereign states: as Benjamin Franklin put it, "a republic, if you can keep it." The authors of the Bill of Rights then purposefully gave us the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to keep the power of the central government in check. A Republic. A federation of sovereign states. But with apologies to George Lucas, Empire keeps striking back. Thomas Jefferson spent the rest of his life issuing warnings about how centralized government tends to increase its power. He issued warnings about the need for a vigilant public. It is possible to show (as Charles Adams does in his brilliant tract When in the Course of Human Events: Arguing the Case for Southern Secession) that the war 140 years ago boils down to a contest between Republic and Empire. I am aware, of course, that it is now politically correct to say that that war was fought over slavery because, after all, when Lincolns minions defeated Jefferson Davis and Gen. Robert E. Lee, Empire won its first major battle on U.S. soil. Secession was not merely rejected as a viable means of checking its growth, but the numerous discussions of the topic and even threats to carry it out that arose between 1787 and 1860 were literally purged from the history books. Not noticed was how the issue had been decided not legally or Constitutionally but by brute force. Empire has been
