Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Democracy Trampled in QuebecCity
-Caveat Lector- Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice. - - Barry Goldwater If what the protesters did to that fence in Quebec was wrong then so was what those terrorists in Boston did to that tea in the harbor, and so was what Jesus did to the money changers in the temple. A novel argument Nessie, but a wee bit presumptious to compare a melange of undergraduate middle class hypocrites acting out their revolutionary fantasies, unionists with a barrow of self-interest to push, and green utopians with JC and some colonists protesting about tea taxes. As I said in my original posting, the fence was set up because of what those civilised protestors, demonstrating their unique interpreation of free speech and democracy (for themselves, not for others), had done previously in Seattle, London, Prague and Melbourne. A fine group of people. If nobody stands up to the NWO, we'll all end up working in sweat shops in the middle of a toxic waste dump. Pull the other one. You cowards out there can whine all day about the NWO on the internet from the safety of your home, and ruling elites donât give a ratâs ass. Cowards? Compared to those self-styled global saviours with their balaclavas slingshots, many of whom belong to political organisations which barely register a blip on most people's radar, and whose policies most people would find somewhat unrealistic, I'm not sure if I should be insulted. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] South Pole Update- Weapons Inspectors To Antarctica
In a message dated 5/4/01 9:45:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dr. Serena Serghetti..she looks like Nicole Kidman's twin sister. That pic looks EXACTLY like Nicole Kidman...I think it IS Nicole Kidman! And if it is...she wouldn't melt the Antarctic, Nicole Kidman is known as the "Ice Queen"... Bill.
Re: [CTRL] Behold a Mad Cow
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- What name you using today Joshua/Schwartz/Nurev etc Why is it you seem it is okay to print anything you want, but you seem inclined to want to censor anything that is not to your own personal liking. Pointing out what what an absolute moron you are is not censorship. I love what you write. You have written garbage about militias; but this item of ours, I find to be a real psychological clue to your character. All you have to do is ask. So Mr. Schwartz - I am reproducing one of your efforts - love that last line or two about focusing hatred towards those with whom you disagree? Now Mr. Pierce which you quote wrote the beautiful article with regard to the USS Liberty - the entire content was accurate - 34 of our men were killed and 171 wounded on that ship..while you Mr. Schwartz aka Joshua2 aka Nurev , took it upon yourself to close that case? Well actually, nazis are not the most reliable sources on Jewish related stuff. And I didn't write the case closed article, but that article only reiterated what I have claimed for years on this very conspiracy list. What made me sick was the fact that the Isralies napalmed that great ship and bombed it for 45 minutes but it survivied to tell the truth.no shrines to the dead upon this great ship Tell me where did Israelies get the Napalm - from our Enemy Within. You try and try Colleen. But you're just not good at it. You are too stupid to be an effective propagandist. Still want to disarm the militias Mr. Schwartz? Saba Colleen. You really shouldn't be posting nazi literature in CTRL. I think that's a no no. More horse's mouth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 05 Jun 1998 12:10:16 -0700 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Les Schaffer: what nerve Previous message: Chris Burford: Cambridge Journal of Economics Next in thread: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: More horse's mouth Maybe reply: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: More horse's mouth From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 12:10:16 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: More horse's mouth For more information about the authors of these articles visit the National Alliance web site at http://www.natall.com. For patriotic books, tapes and videos, visit the National Vanguard Books Catalog at http://www.natvan.com/cgi-bin/nvbctlg.txt. American Dissident Voices Online Radio http://www.natvan.com/internet-radio Improving Our Souls by Dr. William Pierce National Alliance Chairman Perhaps you won't mind if today I just share a few thoughts with you about where our people are now and where we're headed, instead of doing my usual news analysis. One of the things I've complained about often is that when so many terribly destructive things are happening to us, most of our people are simply remaining as spectators, refusing to lift a hand against the enemies who certainly will destroy us if we permit them. We have Bill Clinton in the White House, the clearest proof there could be that the present political system in America, the system by which we choose our legislators and our governmental executives has gone completely haywire. We simply cannot have people like Bill Clinton as President, and the gang of criminals in the Congress making our laws, and expect America to survive. Hundreds of thousands of responsible men and women should rise up in righteous wrath against Washington and its system. But they don't. Or consider immigration: it is destroying America. Much of California and Florida have been transformed from White to non-White areas during the past couple of decades, and the same thing is happening in many other parts of the country. Areas which used to be clean, decent, and White have become Third World jungles. Millions of people realize what is happening, but very few are willing to do anything about it, except move to a Whiter suburb. Most White Americans are even afraid to say anything about the darkening of America, from fear of being denounced as racists by the loudmouthed, bullying forces of Political Correctness. The Clinton government realizes that most of the people who don't like what is happening to America are suffering from moral paralysis at this time and will not rebel, no matter what the government does, and so the government keeps our borders open, knowing that every non-White immigrant is another supporter of the Clinton system, and to hell with the country. The schools are another indicator of America's illness. I've spoken on other programs about specific aspects of the school problem: a lack of order and discipline, lower standards, falling performance. The schools have become so bad that even the government is worried about them. But of course, no one can fix them, because no one is willing to address the real problems behind the failure of the schools. The
Re: [CTRL] Behold a Mad Cow
-Caveat Lector- Please, Mr Schwartz aka Joshua aka Nurev - no Goldbergs in my family but once was a Rosenberg and a Greencastle Stamey in 1839. You may call me Mrs. Rosenberg. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [RMNEWS] AMEND. TO ABOLISH TAXES INTRODUCED IN HOUSE 4/25!
-Caveat Lector- --- Rayelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: RMNEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Rumor Mill News From: Rayelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:54:20 -0700 Subject: [RMNEWS] AMEND. TO ABOLISH TAXES INTRODUCED IN HOUSE 4/25! Rumor Mill News Forum http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=9005 AMEND. TO ABOLISH TAXES INTRODUCED IN HOUSE 4/25! Posted By: Esclarmonde Date: Wednesday, 2 May 2001, 3:35 p.m. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.J.RES.45: AMENDMENT TO ABOLISH PERSONAL INCOME TAX...PROPOSED IN HOUSE LAST WEEK. WRITE/CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN. TELL HIM YOU SUPPORT 'HJ 45 IH' Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging... (Introduced in the House) HJ 45 IH 107th CONGRESS 1st Session H. J. RES. 45 Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES April 25, 2001 Mr. PAUL introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary JOINT RESOLUTION Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens. Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification: `Article-- `SECTION 1. The Government of the United States shall not engage in any business, professional, commercial, financial, or industrial enterprise except as specified in the Constitution. `SECTION 2. The constitution or laws of any State, or the laws of the United States, shall not be subject to the terms of any foreign or domestic agreement which would abrogate this amendment. `SECTION 3. The activities of the United States Government which violate the intent and purposes of this amendment shall, within a period of three years from the date of the ratification of this amendment, be liquidated and the properties and facilities affected shall be sold. `SECTION 4. Three years after the ratification of this amendment the sixteenth article of amendments to the Constitution of the United States shall stand repealed and thereafter Congress shall not levy taxes on personal incomes, estates, and/or gifts.'. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] RMNews, The Uncensored National Rumor http://www.rumormillnews.com THE ONLY RUMOR YOU CAN TRUST RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY P.O. BOX 1784 APTOS, CA 95001 TEL 831 462 3949 FAX 831 462 2545 WHY WAS PRINCESS DIANA MURDERED? http://www.dianaqueenofheaven.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UFO Made in China?
-Caveat Lector- Just when I saw a UFO as of late - hey it had to be made in China, for it was flying over my house, not directly above it but it was chugging along at 1950 speed leaving a little short track of smoke.. Mrs Rosenberg Mail message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conspiracy Journal) Date: Sat, May 5, 2001, 4:07am (EDT+4) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (List Member) Subject: No More UFOs? Tracking Service Closes for Lack of Use Conspiracy Journal - http://www.conspiracyjournal.com --- ListBot Sponsor -- Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb -- No More UFOs? Tracking Service Closes for Lack of Use The following article carried in the Times London, with rebuttals by UFO Magazine-UK, is a good example of disinformation carried by the media which falsely discredits the reality and magnitude of the UFO phenomena. See the comments below about the 40,000 formerly classified UFO documents that were released into the public domain since Freedom of Information Act was established in 1974. Also the 3,500 UFO sightings that were officially reported by military and civilian pilots. There is neither a small amount of activity in this area nor limited interest on the part of the American Government and it's many agencies. Russ Hamerly == THE TIMES LONDON 23 April 2001 http://www.ufomag.co.uk/index.htm No More UFOs? Tracking Service Closes for Lack of Use L O N D O N, April 23 - The British Flying Saucer Bureau is closing after chronicling UFO activities for nearly 50 years - because of a sharp decline in the number of reported sightings. The group, which once had 1,500 members worldwide, used to receive at least 30 reports a week of sightings of unidentified flying objects, but they had now virtually dried up, the Times newspaper reported on Monday. I am just as enthusiastic about flying saucers as I always was, but the problem is that we are in the middle of a long, long trough, Denis Plunkett, 70, who founded the bureau in 1953 with his late father Edgar, told the Times. There's only so many times you can pick over old bones. There just aren't enough new sightings, he said. Anthony James UFO MAGAZINE'S RESPONSE A mini-debate is taking place over the Internet following a story which ran in The Times, 23 April 2001, in which journalist Simon de Bruxelles (whose name from memory has appeared in debunking articles in the past), reports that Denis Plunkett has suspended the activities of the Bristol-based British Flying Saucer Bureau, which he founded in 1953. To put matters firmly into context, speak with most enthusiasts today and they will tell you that they have never heard of the British Flying Saucer Bureau or Denis Plunkett. While the Bureau was an established organization throughout the 1950s and 1960s, thereafter little has been heard from either. Indeed, one will be hard pressed to discover references to the British Flying Saucer Bureau or Denis Plunkett in recent times. I cannot recall when I last met or heard from either Denis or British Flying Saucer Bureau members, but we are talking 1980s, and possibly before that. Speaking with my brother, Mark Birdsall, who worked alongside me on the UFO front for the best part of 30 years (I began in 1967), he is equally as baffled as the rest of us. Of course, this is of no consequence to those in the media who have picked up on Simon de Bruxelles story and created an imaginary mountain from a grain of salt. Let us hope that other newspapers refrain from using the caption attached to one of the two photographs Simon de Bruxelle chose to illustrate his piece. The photograph of a Saturn-shaped flying saucer he credits as being taken over Texas, was in fact snapped over Trindade Island in early January, 1958 by Brazilian photographer and journalist, Alimoro Barauna, one of several civilian passengers on board the former Brazilian training ship, Almirante Saldanha. A minor factual error on the face of it, but newspapers like The Times pride themselves on being factual at all times. Hence, I drew on several additional facts in a considered written response to Simon de Bruxelle's piece, and comments contained in a third leader article by the newspaper's Editor. Whether the following letter is published remains to be seen, but this is what I chose to write: Letters to the Editor Sir, Denis Plunkett, founder of the British Flying Saucer Bureau, suggests that reports and belief in the existence of UFOs is declining (UFO bureau shuts as aliens shun Earth, third leading article, Times, April 23). I beg to differ. There are currently 80 recognized UFO groups and organizations evenly spread throughout the United Kingdom, most of which continue to generate an abundance of UFO reports by means of active research and investigation. While it is true to say that the Bristol area has been relatively devoid
[CTRL] [Spy News] Zionist medical group gets UN status (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Zionist medical group gets UN status http://www.iol.co.za/html/frame_news.php?click_id=22art_id=qw 988951742195B252 May 04 2001 at 06:49AM United Nations - Despite objections from Arab countries, a Jewish humanitarian organisation has been granted United Nations credentials given to many grassroots groups. Hadassah, The Women's Zionist Organisation of America, which runs hospitals in Israel and promotes health education in the United States, welcomed Thursday night's decision by the UN Economic and Social Council. The 54-member council approved a recommendation of its Committee on Non-Governmental Organisations to grant consultative status to 52 groups, including Hadassah. There was no vote, but representatives from Syria, Sudan, Bahrain and Iran expressed reservations about Hadassah's inclusion, alleging it held some of the most extreme positions of Israel. 90 years experience in humanitarian work The Palestinian observer, speaking on behalf of the League of Arab States, also questioned the humanitarian nature of the organisation, and said it would follow Hadassah's activities closely in the future. The United States expressed appreciation for the decision and Israel's representative noted that Hadassah has assisted Palestinians within and outside the region. Hadassah applied for consultative status in the Economic and Social Council in 1998 so that it could participate in UN conferences and offer its expertise in running hospitals. Our mission is one of medical excellence with 90 years experience in humanitarian work, said Hadassah president Bonnie Lipton. It is one of rebuilding the lives of children at risk and land reclamation and last, but perhaps foremost, supporting the largest Zionist youth movement in the United States and in Israel. In hearings last year, Arab countries including Lebanon and Syria recommended the application be rejected, arguing that Hadassah was an exclusive political organisation. Lebanon noted that the United Nations had for 16 years equated Zionism with racism. That 1975 resolution was repealed in 1991. 'Every patient is treated with the same high standards of care' In January, the 19-member committee on non-governmental organisations recommended special consultative status for Hadassah by a vote of nine to six, with three abstentions. Two members were absent. Hadassah was expecting the full council, known as Ecosoc, to come back with a final decision when it meets in Geneva in July, and was surprised when the news came several months early. We had confidence that the decision was going to go this way, said Lipton. But I'm very happy because this validates that Hadassah made the right decision to pursue a status on Ecosoc despite the vitriolic anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist validations that we had to face. She scoffed at claims that the organisation was equated with racism, saying in our health work, every patient is treated with the same high standards of care, regardless of regardless or religion, colour, creed, politics, ethnic background. - Sapa-AP == SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html == *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to SPYNEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml -- To subscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your subscription mode to Daily Digest (one message a day) send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario Profaca, independent journalist, SPY NEWS eGroup list owner, editor moderator, is a member of of the Committee of Concerned Journalists, an initiative administered through the offices of the Project for Excellence in Journalism in Washington, D.C. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SPY NEWS home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spynews Spy books, handbooks and manuals: http://mprofaca.cro.net/spybooks.html = Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the
Re: [CTRL] South Pole Update- Weapons Inspectors To Antarctica
-Caveat Lector- There is no Serena Serghetti.UN Inspectors should be taken on a ride when they reach there..you have heard of Lost in Space? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tom Bearden on AIDS
-Caveat Lector- http://www.cheniere.org/books/aids/cover.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Democracy Trampled in QuebecCity
-Caveat Lector- Well Nessie you are the 2nd person I have heard to say Jesus made a mistake when he kicked the money changers out of the temples. My mother used to say that was his one big mistake - now maybe she meant that is why he was killed? For Judas had the bag didn't he. So - Castro kicked the gamblers out of the gambling temples in Cuba - he surivied and is probably the only true Marxist communist in the world.his people love him or they would have given him the big boot by now. JFK was about to kick the money changers out of the Federal Reserve? Mrs. Rosenberg A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rep. Traficant Charged With Bribery (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Rep. Traficant Charged With Bribery http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=1271 By M.R. KROPKO .c The Associated Press CLEVELAND (AP) - A federal grand jury on Friday indicted Rep. James A. Traficant Jr. on charges of bribery, racketeering and other counts. The 10-count, 41-page indictment alleges that Traficant accepted ``things of value'' for political influence while serving as a congressman representing the Youngstown area in northeastern Ohio. The conservative Democrat had long predicted that he would be indicted. The U.S. Justice Department has been probing corruption in eastern Ohio's Mahoning Valley for several years. Since the first indictments in December 1997, more than 70 people have been convicted, including a judge, a prosecutor, a sheriff and a Traficant aide, Charles O'Nesti, who has since died. Traficant, who turns 60 next week, was first elected to Congress in 1984. Despite the expected indictment, he won re-election to a ninth term in November by winning 50 percent of the vote in a three-way race. The government's probe is believed to have examined whether Traficant broke tax laws or House rules by accepting free use of a Chevrolet Corvette and the gift of an Avanti luxury car, as well as the price Traficant paid for construction of a pole barn on a farm that he once owned and where he still keeps horses. Traficant has said he is prepared to defend himself in court, although he is not a lawyer. He did the same thing in 1983 when he was acquitted of accepting mob bribes while Mahoning County sheriff. He lost a U.S. Tax Court case in 1987 stemming from the same issues. Since announcing he was a probe target, Traficant has been on a personal crusade against the U.S. Justice Department. An angry Traficant took to the House floor in March 2000 and vowed to ``fight like a junkyard dog'' against any federal charge him. Anticipating the announcement Friday, Traficant told reporters Friday morning near Youngstown that ``I'm as frightened as anyone can be. I'm going to say this to the U.S. attorneys. You'd best defeat me, because if I beat you, you'll be working in Mingo Junction.'' That is a small town in eastern Ohio. Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig Morford, who has been the lead prosecutor in the Youngstown-area corruption cases, would not comment on the indictment. House ethics rules bar members or ``anyone with whom the member has a professional or legal relationship'' from benefiting directly from money representatives use to pay expenses. Some subpoenaed rent records reportedly concerned Traficant's district office, which is in a building owned by Kimberly Sinclair. Her husband, attorney R. Allen Sinclair, was hired onto Traficant's staff the same month his wife bought the building. He made repeated corruption accusations against the FBI, former U.S. Attorney Janet Reno and federal prosecutors in Ohio. He also introduced legislation to establish an independent federal agency to investigate the Justice Department. ``FBI agents in the northern district of Ohio have been on the payroll of the mob,'' Traficant said on the House floor in June. ``They have been bankrolled by the mob.'' Traficant also has claimed that an FBI informant, in writing, has said the FBI asked him to commit murder. The congressman has long been a popular figure in the blue-collar area he represents. Traficant, a former University of Pittsburgh quarterback, seems to thrive on controversy and unabashedly promotes Youngstown, a city known for being a battleground for rival Cleveland and Pittsburgh mob families. The town also has struggled for decades to recover from the sudden closing of old steel mills - long the underpinning of the area's economy - in the late 1970s. Traficant's unruly gray hair and affinity for polyester or plaid clothing have made one of the most recognizable figures on Capitol Hill. When speaking on the House floor, he usually at some point invokes ``Beam me up!'' - a line borrowed from TV's ``Star Trek'' - to show his disgust at something in government he finds particularly outrageous. The tax code is a frequent target. AP-NY-05-04-01 1347EDT === 1 Congressman Traficant -- 2001 One Minute Speeches - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beam me up! 2001 One Minute Speeches Some of the above files are in Adobe .pdf format and require Adobe Acrobat Reader to view. If you do not have Adobe Acrobat Reader, please click here for a FREE downloadable version. http://www.house.gov/traficant/speech.htm 2 U.S. Representative James A. Traficant, Jr. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Official web site of Representative James A Traficant, Jr. (D - OH). http://www.house.gov/traficant/ 3 In 1999, U. S. Representative Jim Traficant had one of the six worst environmental voting records among Democrats in Congress. Voters can clean up by. In 1999, U. S. Representative Jim Traficant had one of the six worst environmental
[CTRL] Gods of Aquarius Excerpt
-Caveat Lector- For even more by Tom Bearden go to http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html The following is an excerpt from GODS OF AQUARIUS: UFOs and The Transformation of Man by Brad Steiger (1976). From pp. 256-267: Tom Bearden is a most fascinating man. A retired lieutenant colonel as of December 31, 1975, he was most recently Chief of the Evaluation Branch, Military Studies Division, SAM-D Missile Project, Redstone Arsenal, Alabama. He has published papers such as Quiton / Perception Physics: A Theory of Existence, Perception, and Physical Phenomena; several articles in Air Defense Trends; a book on martial arts principles; and twelve country-western songs. The six-foot, five-inch, 250-pounder is a military strategist, a holder of a black belt in Aikido, a guitarist, a professional songwriter, and a student of the UFO mystery. Because of the synchronicity of our thought processes, I am permitting Tom Bearden to have the last word in this book. It is my conviction that the gods of Aquarius, the Olympians of the New Age, will be transformed humankind. Such a plan as the one Tom presents herewith could bring my vision and the insights of thousands of Starseeded men and women into realization. (following written by Tom Bearden) The evolution of a life-bearing planet may be divided into stages, the first five of which are: (1) The formation of the planet itself and some billions of years of cooling, so that a primordial atmosphere and ocean are gradually evolved; (2) the fomenting of amino acid structures in the violent convulsions of the primeval sea and planet; (3) the formation of the self-replicating supermolecules, DNA and RNA; (4) the formation of one-celled organisms; (5) the formation of multicellular organisms. At the upper end of the fifth stage of evolution, the intelligent mobiles emerge, as do eventually tool-using intelligent mobiles. This is the level on which man finds himself on the planet Earth. What are actually evolving are competing control systems, and their natural competition for control surgically excises the less competitive. An organism uses two basic mechanisms to control its behavior; one type is genetically programmed and the other is genetically unprogrammed. Thus one control mode is nonadaptive and one is adaptive or learned. That fraction that is unprogrammed is available for experiential or learned programming. Now intelligence may be viewed as the ability to adapt behavior; e.g., to use tools. Thus an increase in intelligence represents a decrease in the portion of behavior control that is genetically programmed, and a corresponding increase in the unprogrammed portion available for adaptive learning. Each organism must possess a mixture of both types of control. If it were completely programmed, it could not make any change at all in its responses to external stimuli; and random environmental changes would quickly present it with death-dealing stimuli not in its genetic catalogue. On the other hand, if the organism were completely deprogrammed, it also would be quickly destroyed. Adaptive behavior must be learned by trial and error, and fatal errors (e.g., forgetting to beat the heart) would occur frequently unless there were many preprogrammed responses. Variations, mutations, and natural selection result in the different species having differing ratios of programmed versus deprogrammed behavior control. A more intelligent species is simply one which possesses more deprogrammed control and less programmed control. For example, on Earth, Man is the species of land mammal possessing the least programmed control and the most unprogrammed control. Eventually, one or more species will deprogam significantly and become extremely adaptive, i.e., highly intelligent. But if this species does not possess a highly manipulative body member, its use of external physical tools will be limited or nonexistent, and it will remain nontechnological. Examples of such Earth species are the bottlenosed dolphin and the killer whale. However, if the species has a highly manipulative body part, it can readily adapt external tools. It is then inherently technological, and its tool-using abilities will continue to develop due to its intelligence or adaptive ability. The use of tools intervenes in the statistics of survivability, and itself becomes an evolutionary determinant. That is, tool-using skill becomes a survival trait and a selection mechanism for the species. Man is such a technological species on planet Earth. With the development of clothing, fire, and fabricated shelter, the technological species will become less environmentally limited. Further, it will become dominant over all other species because of the increasing power of its tools. Its tool-teeth will eventually be sharper than any other animal's teeth; its tool-muscles will be stronger; its tool-feet faster. The technological species will dominate its biosphere; and as its natural enemies are overcome, its numbers will
[CTRL] JSMP Weekly Update [Democrats Demand Right To Veto Home State Nom inees] for 5/4/01 (fwd)
Judicial Selection Monitoring Project Coalition for Judicial Restraint Weekly Update for 5/4/01 Volume IV, Number 6 Published by the Center for Law Democracy at the Free Congress Foundation. Thomas L. Jipping, M.A., J.D., Director John A. Nowacki, Esq., Deputy Director Jason Koehne, Coalition Coordinator (e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Phone: 202-546-3000 Fax: 202-543-5605 http://www.freecongress.org/ http://www.freecongress.org/ ** IN THIS ISSUE: * Democrats Block Confirmations, Demand Veto For Home-State Senators * Senate Democrats Plan For Confirmation Fights At Weekend Retreat * Bush Likely To Re-nominate Clinton Recess Appointee * Commentary: Politicizing The Courts * Commentary: Senate Democrats -- Prolonging The Vacancy Crisis * Senate Democrats Weigh In On Ideological Litmus Tests ** Democrats Block Confirmations, Demand Veto For Home-State Senators Senate Democrats have said they will not allow votes on President Bush's judicial nominees unless individual Senators are given veto power over nominations in their home states, and in this week's committee meeting, they refused to allow a vote on two Justice Department nominees. Earlier this week, Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle said that there is absolute unanimity among Democrats about holding up confirmations. The dispute centers on the blue slip policy. Home-state Senators signify their approval of a nominee by returning a blue form to the Judiciary Committee. According to a Judiciary Committee report, the policy operates under the premise that home-state Senators are uniquely positioned to be familiar with a nominee from their state, and therefore should be accorded special deference--even before the committee considers the nominee. In a letter dated June 6, 1989, then-chairman Senator Joe Biden explained that a negative blue slip is a significant factor in considering a nomination, but it will not preclude consideration unless the home-state Senators are not consulted about the nomination. Current chairman Orrin Hatch (R-UT) has said that he will follow Biden's lead, but Democrats claim Hatch changed the policy to require approval from both home-state Senators after Republicans won control of the Senate in 1995--and with an eye on states with a lot of judgeships and two Democratic Senators, they are insisting that a Bush nomination without approval of both Senators be considered dead in the water. Hatch repeated his intent to follow Biden's lead at this week's committee meeting. He explained that he ended up giving substantial weight to the opinions of both home-state Senators because they were not consulted about nominations under the Clinton Administration. He also added that a conflict between two Republican Senators had also been a factor. Democrats have also insisted that Bush has not consulted them about the upcoming judicial nominations. Hatch acknowledged that the White House was unfamiliar with what the Senate expected, and added that it has been told what sort of consultation he will require in the future. Hatch explained that the Administration is expected to call home-state Senators and advise them of the President's intent to nominate an individual, before that person's name is submitted to the FBI for a background check. A statement of intent to nominate so-and-so is sufficient, he said. He went on to add that it is then the Senator's responsibility to inform the President of any substantive objection to the nomination. Senator Feinstein then asked whether, when informed of an objection, the Administration says that's the President's decision to make. Hatch replied that if there's an objection based merely on ideology, he believes it's the Senate's duty to consider the nomination. He also stated that there will be two weeks to return blue slips--this may be extended upon request--and that a slip not returned will be presumed to indicate approval. He also said that there would be at least three weeks between a nomination and final committee vote, since some Senators are insisting on obtaining an ABA evaluation, and the ABA indicated it can complete an evaluation in three weeks. None of this sat well with committee Democrats. Senator Schumer said that they need a policy where an individual Senator's consultation is listened to and abided by. The policy of advise and consent changes with the times, he added. Senator Leahy raised his voice several times, at one point shouting about how Attorney General Ashcroft should be ensuring that the Administration properly consults with Senators about nominations, given that he was once a member of the Committee himself. The nominees for Solicitor General and Deputy Attorney General, Ted Olson and Larry Thompson, were scheduled for a vote after Democrats had held them over from the previous week's meeting. However,
Re: [CTRL] Gods of Aquarius Excerpt
-Caveat Lector- Dale - this is fascinating and six foot five? We still have giants these days (my sons are 6 '4 to 6'2, It is said we use 5 percent of our brains = in Joshua2's case, maybe 1%. Intellectually a handful of peope are always 1 or 2 hundred years ahead of us. Thank you for sharing this information. I noted in a few items yesterday this Timothy Leary and his LSD - he once stayed with the heirs of the Andrew Mellon family - during this operation Paperclip thing - all Mellon heirs are CIA - might add this John Warner when he married Liz Taylor lived on the Mellon farm, CIA front stuffprobably trying to dry out another investment.. So, Liz Taylor comes out in advance to find cure for AIDS .then along comes Clinton selling AIDS and HIV contaminated blood which is distributed all over the world? This book by the Colonel should be a duzy.he is way ahead of his times. He is also a nuclear engineer as I recall. Always thought people continually programmed in the subconscience - for instance music and art - sublime pictures.leave lasting impression and today TV programs our children to violence. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] women in achieving equality throughout the world.
women in achieving equality throughout the world. Barbara Walters did a story on gender roles in Kuwait several years before the Gulf War. She noted then that women customarily walked about 10 feet behind their husbands. She returned to Kuwait recently and observed that the men now walked several yards behind their wives. Ms. Walters approached one of the women and said, “This is marvelous. Can you tell the free world just what enabled women here to achieve this reversal of roles? “Land mines,” said the Kuwaiti woman.
Re: [CTRL] JSMP Weekly Update [Democrats Demand Right To Veto Home State Nom inees] for 5/4/01 (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Tell me what do these guys do for a living? Maybe if we put them to work on something - other than just the routine affairs of government it would get those bastards off our backs. For these are the Albatross on the back of all Americans. Wonder though - Democrats Demand Right to Veto Home State Nominees..now that works two ways - Republicans have right to veto nominees in home state too?Love all those demands - after all they make the laws do they not? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] women in achieving equality throughout the world.
-Caveat Lector- Prince Philip must always follow at least 10 feet south of his old nag... Now Queen Victoria loved Albert dearly; and is that why she put him in a can (forgive me).. So Prince Phillip wants when he die to return as deadly virus - probably horse tail fly for revenge? Mrs. Rosenberg A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's Lawyer Says Bombing Was Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- Where do you buy this book? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's Lawyer Says Bombing Was Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- This is getting frustrating..whether you believe that Tim is guilty or innocentDEAD RIGHT IS STILL DEAD. ^^^ - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's Lawyer Says Bombing Was Conspiracy -Caveat Lector- Where do you buy this book? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Are the Ten Commandments against the law? (fwd)
At 09:54 AM 5/4/01 , you wrote: -Caveat Lector- The Ten Commandments are the foundation of law in our country and the moral backbone of our society - Balderdash. Not Balderdash. The statement is true. Here are just a few quotes from the founders of this nation and other prominent Americans who would disagree with you, Nessie: We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. - President James Madison The fundamental basis of this nation's law was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teaching we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I don't think we emphasize that enough these days. If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally end up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in the right for anybody except the state. -President Harry S. Truman The highest story of the American Revolution is this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity. -President John Adams On the mercy of my Redeemer I rely for salvation and on His merits; not on the works I have done in obedience to His precepts. -Charles Carroll, Signer of the Declaration History will also afford the frequent opportunities of showing the necessity of a public religion, from its usefulness to the public; the advantage of a religious character among private persons; the mischiefs of superstition, c. and the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern. -Ben Franklin Almost all the civil liberty now enjoyed in the world owes its origin to the principles of the Christian religion. The religion which has introduced civil liberty, is the religion of Christ and his apostles This is genuine Christianity, and to this we owe our free constitutions of government. -Noah Webster I believe that there is one only living and true God, existing in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, the same in substance, equal in power and glory. That the Scriptures of the old and new testaments are a revelation from God and a complete rule to direct us how we may glorify and enjoy Him. -Roger Sherman, Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution The rights essential to happiness We claim them from a higher source - from the King of kings and Lord of all the earth. - John Dickinson; signed the Constitution and a member of the Continental Congress We have no government armed in power capable of contending in human passions ubridled by morality and religion. Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.- John Adams, address to the militia of Massachusetts, 1798. Rights come from GOD not the state. You have rights antecedent to any earthly governments rights that can not be repealed or restrained by human laws. Rights derived from the great legislator: God. - John Adams The moral principles and precepts contained in the Scripture ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. All the miseries and evil men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery, and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible. - Noah Webster Our ancestors established their system of government on morality and religious sentiment. Moral habits, they believed, cannot safely be entrusted on any other foundation than religious principle, not any government secure which is not supported by moral habits Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens. - Daniel Webster I think it proper here not only to subscribe to . . . doctrines of the Christian religion . . . but also, in the bowels of a father's affection, to exhort and charge them [my children] that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, that the way of life held up in the Christian system is calculated for the most complete happiness. -Richard Stockton, Signer of the Declaration I think the Christian religion is a Divine institution; and I pray to God that I may never forget the precepts of His religion or suffer the appearance of an inconsistency in my principles and practice. -James Iredell, U.S. Supreme Court Justice under President George Washington Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers. And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest, of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers. -First Chief Justice of Supreme Court John Jay Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is divineFar from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants. Indeed, these two sciences run into
Re: [CTRL] Are the Ten Commandments against the law? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/enemy.htm Lyndon LaRouche's observations about America's historic enemy, the British Empire I think everyone knows that the United States was engaged in a couple of wars, actually more than two, against the British Monarchy, and with very, very good reason The difference then, as now, in this case here at hand, is [that] the British Monarchy, and our Constitution, represent two absolutely opposite conceptions of Mankind, of the Nation, and everything else that we believe. The basis for our Republic, was a belief which, in Europe, was founded in Christianity: the belief that man was made in the image of God--man and woman are made in the image of God, and are given a certain quality which enables them to exert dominion over the other things in nature. And that this gift, as the Christians understood it, was the gift of Reason; the thing that we cultivate in a child by giving it a good education; the thing we cultivate in an adult, by giving the adult the opportunity to express the power of reason as developed within the adult, as some suitable kind of life opportunity. That is, the access to a choice of life opportunity, which brings out a meaningful potential from the mortal life, from beginning to end. We believe that the nation-state must be constituted to guarantee and provide that right to each individual, whereas under the previous systems of government, 95% of the population of every culture we know of on this planet, whether from history or pre-history, that 95% of the people lived as cattle, as human cattle, as slaves or serfs, or worse So, we became the model for the modern nation-state. We didn't fully succeed in getting a pure modern nation-state, because relics of the old financier oligarchy, in particular, stayed on in Europe, and we acquired an oligarchy, a Wall Street oligarchy, a New England blueblood oligarchy, and a Southern slave-owner tradition. But we represented the high point of civilization, and no American should ever forget that. There's no nation on this planet which has the honor that the United States has, in terms of its form of government, and the form of economy, which we sometimes used, and sometimes didn't, called the American System of National Economy Now the British Empire today, contrary to what most Americans are misled to believe, is still an empire, but of a very special form. It's called the Commonwealth. Most people don't know how the British Empire functions. They think--they believe a silly fairy tale, that the British Parliament runs Britain. It's not true. They believe that the Queen of England is a figurehead. It's not true. They don't know what's going on. The Parliament is a joke. It's an adaptation, a reform of the Monarchy. It does not run the Monarchy. The Queen runs from the top down, through a Privy Council. Number One on the Privy Council, after the Queen, is the Church of England, the head of the Church of England, and then a whole lot of other people, about 500. These 500 people run the British Empire, including the apparatus of its old Colonial Office. The Colonial Office was never disbanded. They call it the Overseas Development Office now. The Crown Agents who ran the colonies still function. They operate whole countries around the world. The mercenary forces we see in Africa and elsewhere are British mercenary forces, under the personal, direct command of the Queen through a thing called the Corps of Commissionaires; that is, these are generally retired military veterans, officers and high-ranking non-coms usually, both from the British Commonwealth system; that is, the various members of the British Commonwealth, or people like Americans, who are ex-GIs, officers and soldiers, who are, as was the case with Ollie North, and people like that, under George Bush, were recruited as mercenary auxiliaries within the British mercenary system. from http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/venlar93.htm : The issue is as follows: The essence of Christianity, and of Mosaic Judaism, is identified historically first, by Philo Judaeus in his commentary on the first chapter of Genesis, that is, the account of Creation given by Moses. The point to be emphasized, is that man is defined in the image of God: not by virtue of any outward physical attributes of form, but rather by the fact that man, unlike all animals, contains that spark of creativity which places the human species apart from and above the animals in general. That spark is the crucial thing. This view of man, which is emphasized for Christianity by God become man in the form of Christ, defines all human beings as potentially reconciled with God, because of that within them, that divine spark, which is in the image of God. Thus, the notion of any form of elect, or a preselection by grace, except by a merit of choice by the individual who is self-selected, is an abomination. It is an abomination, because
[CTRL] [Spy News] FW: Horor of Sudan, media silence (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: International Justice Watch Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel Tomasevich Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Horor of Sudan, media silence News has become a comodity. If it doesn't sell, major networks don't bother to make a report. Sudan has been forgotten in the media even thought millions have been killed. Again, where is the American press' coverage of Rep. Cynthia McKinney's factually precise testimony? Where are Ted Koppel, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw? Except for a few limited media reports, the terrifying facts on the Sudanese ground have not been told to Americans. When she was secretary of state, Madeleine Albright said that the atrocities in Sudan are not marketable to the American people. Daniel (article not for cross posting) - The Washington Times April 23, 2001, Monday COMMENTARY HEADLINE: The horror of Sudan; Why does the press remain silent? BYLINE: Nat Hentoff; THE WASHINGTON TIMES There are Americans who don't know the names of their own representatives in Washington, but they are likely to have often heard of house Majority Leader Dick Armey and the powerful and voluble congressman from Harlem, Charles Rangel. On most issues, the two are in combative disagreement, but on March 22, they held a joint press conference about slavery in Sudan, along with congressional colleagues, Reps. Frank Wolf, Donald Payne, Eleanor Holmes Norton, Jo Ann Davis, and Tom Tancredo. Mr. Armey stated: Sudan today is a horror without parallel. It is the only place in the world in which religious genocide is taking place. People are being tortured, mutilated and killed solely because of their Christian faith. It is a place where two million people have been slaughtered - more than in Bosnia, Rwanda and Somalia combined. Said Mr. Rangel, In the Sudan, the world is faced with a human-rights nightmare of the first order. We have the opportunity, indeed the responsibility, to use our international leadership to help end the civil war and the heartbreaking enslavement of women and children, which has intensified as a result of the hostilities. One would think there would have been considerable press coverage of such passionate denunciations of the Islamic government in northern Sudan, the source of these horrors. But there was only slight attention in the media, although many other statements by Messrs. Armey and Rangel are reported regularly. On March 7, at an International Relations Committee hearing in Congress, Rep. Tom Tancredo asked Secretary of State Colin Powell about slavery, the bombing of schools and hospitals, and other atrocities in Sudan. Mr. Powell responded, I do know there is no greater tragedy on the face of the Earth than the one unfolding in Sudan. One would think that so anguished a statement by the much-respected Colin Powell would be significant news; but have you seen any commentary on it, or any serious mention at all, in newspapers, or on television or radio? On April 3, at a session of the Joint Subcommittee on International Operations, Human Rights and Africa, Rep. Cynthia McKinney spoke of the government of Sudan's forced removal of black Christians and animists in the South from rich oil fields; the investments of foreign companies in the oil fields; and the way the National Islamic Front uses the proceeds from the investments to intensify its terrorism against civilians on these lands. Clear evidence now exists, said Miss McKinney, of massive forced displacement; aerial bombardments; low-level strafing of villages, hospitals, schools and churches from helicopter gunships armed with heavy machine guns; and thousands of individual acts of murder, torture and rape. The violence against women has been particularly brutal and includes allegations that women have been raped and their infants nailed to trees with spikes. Have you seen news stories on her testimony? I have heard from Charles Jacobs, head of the American Anti-Slavery Group, who recently went to Sudan on a fact-finding trip. He was told by the interviewer of a rescued black woman whose baby's throat was slit by an Arab raider. The raider then cut the toddler's head off. The mother, after being raped, was forced to carry the head of her child on the march north, and eventually was ordered to throw the child's head into a fire. That story is not surprising in view of the testimony of the many rescued black slaves who have endured gang rape and other forms of brutality. What are the reactions of American feminist leaders to what is happening to women in Sudan? Again, where is the American press' coverage of
[CTRL] Rethinking open borders (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.enterstageright.com/0501borders.htm By W. James Antle III web posted April 30, 2001 The case for the United States having completely open borders is superficially appealing, at least to those who cherish individual freedom and free-market capitalism. This is why many who embrace the market, particularly libertarians, are intrigued by the idea. The Wall Street Journal used to annually editorialize on behalf of a constitutional amendment that would open US borders to anyone willing to enter. The late Julian Simon was a passionate believer in expanded immigration. Jacob Sullum recently opined in Reason magazine that there was no more justification to restrict people's movement between countries as between the 50 states. My colleagues at Enter Stage Right have eloquently made similar arguments. Yet immigration is one issue that divides members of the free-market fraternity. Many pro-market thinkers view, with much justification, free flow of capital as being indelibly associated with the free movement of people. Others see this as more of an abstraction, with the concrete reality being that immigration, particularly from the Third World, actually undermines the market by growing the welfare state. Ayn Rand believed in unfettered immigration, while Murray Rothbard held that there was no right to immigrate and John Hospers, the Libertarian Party's first presidential candidate, has expressed skepticism about open borders. Although much of the free-market opposition to this concept and liberalized immigration generally has come from conservatives, Ronald Reagan, Jack Kemp, Newt Gingrich, Dick Armey, and Alan Keyes have all spoken in favor of increased immigration. Open-border immigration conceptually appeals to individualism. Its proponents note that people should be free to work, move and seek a better life for themselves and their families regardless of bureaucratic regulations and geographic distinctions. George Will has noted that the act of immigration itself demonstrates personal initiative. Immigration laws, according to open-borders proponents, invite bureaucratic harassment of employers, regulatory red tape, intrusion into people's lives, interruption of family connections, discrimination and otherwise prevent people from achieving their own good in their own way while similarly depriving others of immigrants' skills within the marketplace. All of this is to some degree true and all of it is unfortunate, yet open borders remain an unsustainable situation for the United States (or any major country, for that matter) and an ultimately self-defeating proposition for its market-minded defenders. It should be stated at this point that terms like pro-immigration and anti-immigration are crass oversimplifications. Virtually no one opposes all immigration to the United States, and even proponents of a moratorium such as Alan Caruba favor the resumption of immigration at the end of that specified period. Many of the leading advocates of immigration restriction evidence their lack of intrinsic hostility toward immigrants by being immigrants themselves, such as John O'Sullivan, George Borjas and Peter Brimelow. Similarly, indefatigable immigration enthusiasts like Julian Simon and Milton Friedman have indicated their belief that a totally open border isn't feasible. It has been noted that at least 1.2 million immigrants, both legal and illegal, come to these shores annually. Presently, immigrants account for about a tenth of the population, the largest share in decades, the largest absolute number in history and a 43 percent increase since 1990. It is not difficult to envision 2 to 3 million a year entering the United States if all immigration restrictions were lifted, accounting for nearly all our population growth. Those who see no problem with this and its probable contribution to the crowding in certain areas of the country should consider this immigration's likeliest sources. Even in the absence of immigration laws dictating who may or may not come in, people from all over the world will not immigrate here equally. Open border immigration is likely to favor countries in the Western Hemisphere to our south, as they are closest. These are the same countries that have provided the largest proportion of our immigrants since the Immigration Act of 1965. Since 1965, the pool of immigrants has been increasingly mismatched with the US labor market and characterized by deteriorating relative skill levels. In 1970, the average recent immigrant had 0.35 years less schooling than the average native-born American. By 1990, the average recent immigrant had 1.32 year less schooling. This educational gap has only continued to widen. While immigrants on average earned 3 percent more than native-born Americans in 1970, they earned 16.2 percent less by 1990. Immigrants who had arrived within the past five years earned 16.6 percent less
[CTRL] The Empire Strikes Back
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Grant050301/grant050301.html The empire strikes back By Chris Grant May 3, 2001—Nope. Not what you're thinking. There's no Luke Skywalker, no Darth Vader, Han Solo doesn't even get frozen in carbonite. But it does involve Star Wars. That steady ticking in the background is the doomsday clock, counting down from one minute to midnight. Tick, George W. Bush wants to violate the ABM (Antiballistic Missile) Treaty of 1972. Tock, the United States' allies are none too pleased. Tick, George W. Bush doesn't care. Tock, the allies are none too pleased. It's a broken record. Whatever Bush wants, Bush gets. I may have been a slight bit harsh when I said that Bush wants to violate the ABM Treaty. He doesn't. In fact, he doesn't recognize it to even attempt violating it. Instead, he believes it to be a Cold War antiquity and that it should be scrapped. In a previous article, my first here at Online Journal as a matter of fact, I said that the United States needed a bogeyman amongst the world's nations. The current bogeyman is China. The EP-3 spy plane incident (note I do not say accident) saw to that. This incident is now seen as justification, as we all knew it would be, to start talking Star Wars again. Paging Dr. Strangelove, Dr. Strangelove. You are wanted in the Pentagon. Oh, there you are. I didn't see you. Let's let Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Lucas Fischer explain the Bush administration's plans, just as he explained them to the Danish Parliament this past week: "We will deploy defenses as soon as possible. Therefore, we believe that the ABM treaty will have to be replaced, eliminated or changed in a fundamental way." The ABM treaty of 1972 states neither the United States nor the Soviet Union (and later Russia and the various countries that used to make up the U.S.S.R.) would provide or deploy a base for ABM systems for a defense of the territory of its country. Nor would they develop, test, or deploy ABM systems or components that are sea-based, air-based, space-based, or mobile land-based. You can kiss that goodbye as American officials (read: Bush administration) say that they are planning on a multi-layered system that would involve sea-based radars and interceptors and land and space-based "elements." As of this writing, Bush has made his speech. He's told all of us that there bogeymen out there and that without this system online, we don't stand a chance against them. He's warned us that we ought to dust off the bomb shelters. Kids, you should be prepared for your new class, Duck-and-Cover. Your first lesson: find a desk, get under it, and pray your little butts off. What good the desk will do you if a nuke should make it to you has yet to be determined. We're informed that we need to protect ourselves from "rogue states." Among these "rogue states" are Iran and Iraq. Forgetting that the Bush administration stole the election in November with the help of the Supreme Court (which should, in turn, make us a rogue state), the question that no one asks is how many ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles) either of these countries have in their arsenals? Doing a little bit of digging, and with the help of the FAS (Federation of American Scientists) website, I discovered that Iran has two different kinds of operational missiles: the Shahab-1, of which they have anywhere from 50 to 300 and the Shahab-2, of which they have anywhere from 50 to 450 in their inventory. The Shahab-1 is capable of reaching a distance of 300 km (kilometers) and the Shahab-2, 500 km. Iraq is just as pitiful with their Al Hussein missiles, holding anywhere from 6 to 50 in storage, with a range of 600 km. Is it just me or is 600 km nowhere near the United States? Bush called this a limited-defense package. Yet in order to "protect" our allies, the very definition of limited is flawed. From downtown Baghdad, you could hit as far west as Cyprus, as far east as central Iran, as far north as Turkey, and as far south as Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Limited is not what it used to be. Let's not stop there. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said Tuesday that, "They [the missile "defense" systems] need not be 100-percent perfect in my opinion and they are certainly unlikely to be in their early stages of evolution." Let me slow this down for you. The missile "defense" system does not, in Secretary Rumsfeld's eyes, need to be 100-percent accurate in shooting down incoming missiles. If we are to understand the good secretary, it's okay if someone is able to toss an ICBM our way and our "defense" missile misses it, allowing it to hit its intended target: us. And it's okay that our missile, missing the target, continues on to hit something else, possibly a city that had no hand in sending the previously mentioned ICBM towards us. If that doesn't reach out and shake you, I think you need to lay off the Prozac.
[CTRL] Weird Whirlpool Off San Diego
http://www.kfmb.com/special_assignment/archive/2001/04/weird.php WEIRD WHIRLPOOL A strange phenomenon spinning off the coast of San Diego. Some say it comes from out of this world. It can best be described as a giant whirlpool caught on videotape off Black's Beach. A man flying in a biplane shot the footage with his home video camera and it is extraordinary to say the least. Oceanographers say they've never seen anything like it. But at least one expert says an unidentified underwater object could have caused the weird whirlpool. Flying saucers, UFOs, strange lights - people say they've seen them in the skies, over the water, even in the water. Imagine for a moment what would happen if a spacecraft did land in the ocean off San Diego. What would it look like? Saturday, February 3, 2001 - 1100 feet above Black's Beach. Mike Runion is a passenger in an open-air biplane on a sightseeing tour when he sees something he's never seen before. The pilot circles around for another look and there it is: a huge, spinning whirlpool. Mike pulled out his video camera and started shooting - 37 seconds of footage that shows a spinning whirlpool, sucking up dirt and debris, just outside the surf line -- a spiral of foam rising up from the center. Mike is a kayaker. He and his friends spend a lot of time in the ocean, but this video was like nothing they had ever seen. When NEWS 8 first aired this video about a month ago, we received a phone call from the director of the San Diego UFO society. Rob Baldwin wanted to take a closer look so we obliged. Baldwin says UFOs have been reported for years off the coast of San Diego. But could an underwater spacecraft really cause a whirlpool? Baldwin says the spinning motion of an underwater flying saucer could do just that. Scientists at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography are skeptical of the UFO theory to say the least. Bill Schmidt does extensive research on ocean rip currents. He says the spinning motion in the video appears to be a giant eddy, perhaps caused by two competing ocean currents. Rip currents run perpendicular to the shoreline, flowing straight out to sea. Once they get outside the surf zone they sometimes collide with long-shore currents heading north or south. When the two currents come together a spinning, eddy motion can result. There is also a deep canyon off the coast of Black's Beach, which can make ocean currents unpredictable. But because the video is so short Schmidt says it's difficult to say exactly what caused the eddy. As for the man who shot the video, he's still at a loss to explain it. For now, the cause of the strange whirlpool off Black's Beach remains a mystery -- a phenomenon unexplained by either science or science fiction. No one really knows just how common these whirlpool currents are off the San Diego coastline. But, scientists say they wouldn't be surprised if they occur as seldom as once a year or as often as once a month. For more information go to Scripps Institution of Oceanography and San Diego UFO Society.
Re: [CTRL] FBI knowingly let innocent man go to prison for 30 years
-Caveat Lector- FBI knowingly let innocent man go to prison for 30 years -- Some members of the House Government Reform Committee reportedly wept as they heard testimony from Joe Salvati, who spent 30 years in prison for a crime the FBI knew he did not commit. Federal agents let Salvati take the fall rather then reveal informants' identities. (05/04/01) http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,21095,00.html Perhaps a lesson for all the BGL's (Big Govt Lovers). Give them the power - they WILL abuse it. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Springtime for Hitler
-Caveat Lector- Forget Springtime for Hitler. Try Autumn for Amerika. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] One in Ten
-Caveat Lector- The reality is that overpopulation has natural remedies - birth control; disease; war; pestilence, or starvation Take your pick. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Marrs-Antarctica A Nazi Base?
News From Marrs 4-27-01 Antartica A Nazi Base? By Jim Marrs An Excerpt From 'Alien Agenda' With the current mysterious happenings in Antartica concerning Lake Vostok, an old theory is being resurrected -- that German Nazis as early as the 1930s may have built a secret base at the South Pole. While this idea undoubtedly will strike most people as absurb, there is tantalizing evidence to suggest that something along this line might have some truth to it. Long-standing banking and business connections allowed high-ranking German leaders in 1944 to forge a formidable Nazi-controlled organization for postwar activities. Author Jim Keith wrote, "...in researching the shape of totalitarian controlduring this century, I saw that the plans of the Nazis manifestly did not die with the German loss of World War II. The ideology and many of the principal players survived and flourished after the war, and have had a profound impact on postwar history, and on events taking place today." Orvis A. Schmidt, the U.S. Treasury Department’s director of Foreign Funds Control, in 1945 offered this description of a Nazi flight-capital program: "The network of trade, industrial, and cartel organizations has been streamlined and intermeshed, not only organizationally but also by what has been officially described as `personnel union.’ Legal authority to operate this organizational machinery has been vested in the concerns that have majority capacity in the key industries such as those producing iron and steel, coal and basic chemicals. These concerns have been deliberately welded together by exchanges of stock to the point where a handful of men can make policy and other decisions that affect us all." Could one of those "decisions" have been the creation of a Nazi base connected to the development of UFOs? While this notion may superficially appear to be sheer nonsense, the public record offers compelling --- if incomplete --- evidence to support this idea. One theory is that Martin Bormann and other top Nazis escaped to South America and on to a secret base in Antarctica where they built UFOs so sophisticated that their secret Nazi empire has exerted significant control over world events and governments to this day. While there can be no question that the business and financial network created by Bormann wields a certain amount of power even today, evidence for the existence of a major Nazi base containing UFOs is virtually nonexistent, consisting primarily of the known exploration of Antarctica’s Queen Maude Land --- renamed Neuschwabenland by the Germans --- in 1938 and some unverified statements. Reportedly, German Navy Grand Admiral Karl Doenitz stated in 1943, "The German submarine fleet is proud of having built for the Fuehrer in another part of the world a Shangri-La on land, an impregnable fortress." And it has been reported that U.S. Admiral Richard Byrd, upon his return from an expedition to Antarctica in 1947, stated it was "necessary for the USA to take defensive actions against enemy air fighters which come from the polar regions" and that America could be "attacked by fighters that are able to fly from one pole to the other with incredible speed." Advancing the idea that the Nazis continually shipped men and material to the South Pole throughout the war years, author R. A. Harbinson wrote, "Regarding the possibility of the Germans building self-sufficient underground research factories in the Antarctic, it has only to be pointed out that the underground research centers of Nazi Germany were gigantic feats of construction, containing wind tunnels, machine shops, assembly plants, launching pads, supply dumps and accommodation for all who worked there, including adjoining camps for slaves --- and yet very few people knew that they existed." But, while tales of a secret Nazi base in Antarctica may appear plausible to some, the idea that a warm water location at the South Pole has remained undiscovered and no one has escaped or deserted the place in more than 50 years stretched belief to the breaking point in years past. But with the new revelations of 60-70 degree temperature water, magnetic anomalies suggesting the possiblity of a hidden city or base and the obvious backout taking place concerning current events at the pole, the idea of a secret base is no longer so far fetched.
[CTRL] America braced for 'brutalisation effect' as McVeigh waits to die
-Caveat Lector- America braced for 'brutalisation effect' as McVeigh waits to die By Andrew Gumbel in Terre Haute, Indiana Independent (UK) 05 May 2001 Mark Hamm took one look at the gruesome image on television and had no doubt what it portended. Someone across the state line in Illinois had ripped out the guts of a dog and strung up the poor animal in public over a device looking like a guillotine. To the average television viewer, it might have seemed a particularly sick item of local news. To Professor Hamm, who teaches criminology at Indiana State University here, it felt like the beginning of what he expects to be a wave of violence to mark the execution of Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber, at the federal penitentiary just outside Terre Haute in 11 days' time. The dog owner was a white supremacist. I think he and a group of skinheads did it to make a statement about their willingness to do evil, Professor Hamm said. This was an act of anger about the McVeigh execution. The brutalisation effect has begun. The term brutalisation effect is used by academics to refer to a phenomenon that tends to occur around any execution: a marked increase in the rate of murders and other violent crimes that starts before a prisoner is put to death and lasts for some time after. This happens even at the most routine executions, the theory being that capital punishment inures people to violence and suggests to criminals that if killing is all right for the state then it might be all right for them too. How widespread the effect will be with someone as notorious as McVeigh is anybody's guess, but the signs are ominous. Not only is there talk of his death by lethal injection on 16 May being hailed by anti- government survivalists and white supremacists as some kind of martyrdom; it will also have saturation media coverage, including a closed-circuit relay of his final moments broadcast to relatives of his victims in Oklahoma City. The city of Terre Haute is taking no chances. All schools in the area will be closed for the day. Up to 1,000 police, from federal investigators to beat cops, will be on the streets to keep order among the thousands of protesters, media representatives and other potentially disruptive influences. We just don't know what will happen, said Sister Helen Prejean, the celebrated death penalty opponent who plans to address audiences across Indiana in the next fortnight. She told an audience in Evansville she was afraid someone might take a leaf out of McVeigh's virulent anti-government book and attack a federal target. I don't know that I'd be going into a post office for a few days after, she said. The disembowelled dog is not the only sign of trouble. This week, a 56-year-old man was beaten to death in Terre Haute by two teenagers with an axe handle and a baseball bat, apparently in retaliation for a fight they had had last weekend. Professor Hamm said there were also unconfirmed reports that a group of young people had stolen munitions in central Tennessee and were heading north for the execution. The reports could be part of the general hysteria, but they could also be a real threat. The brutalisation effect has been noted by professional criminologists since 1980, shortly after the United States reintroduced the death penalty. Two researchers in New York state estimated in a landmark study that the average knock-on effect of an execution was two murders within one month, and another within two months. Since then, similar patterns have been demonstrated in Pennsylvania, California, Oklahoma, Arizona, Illinois and elsewhere. Anxious to allay any such upsurge, city officials in Terre Haute are frantically trying to maintain some sense of dignity as the circus beckons. Mayor Judith Anderson is urging people to do something positive on 16 May. Plant some flowers, take your children to a park ... Try not to dwell on somebody being killed at 7am, she said. One county official is hoping to plant 168 tree seedlings, one for each person who died in the Oklahoma bombing six years ago. Some Terre Haute residents are making no secret of their desire to profit from the occasion. Hamburgers and shish kebabs will be sold on the street. One entrepreneur, 31-year-old Tony Lewis, is selling T-shirts with images of McVeigh on eBay, the online auction site. One batch bears the slogan: Terre Haute Extra/Hangin' Times Die, Die, Die. Another, for death penalty opponents, reads: Let McVeigh Live. Rod Henry, the president of the Chamber of Commerce, said: It's a sick concept. We're going to have a hard enough time maintaining the image of our community. And now this. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis
[CTRL] An Enigma Awaits Death
-Caveat Lector- An Enigma Awaits Death http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42034-2001May3.html By Lois Romano Timothy McVeigh is spending his final weeks as he has spent the past six years, confined 23 hours a day to a 6-by-10-foot cell with a few small windows, reading newspaper clippings, writing letters, staring at a small black and white television. But the Oklahoma City bomber has an added focus to his monotonous prison existence: meticulously and secretly planning for his execution and funeral, down to precisely where and when his cremated remains will be scattered. In 12 days, McVeigh, 33, will become the first inmate executed by the federal government in 38 years. He was condemned to die for detonating a massive truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building that killed 168 people, injured hundreds more and forever shattered the nation's sense of complacency about domestic terrorism. McVeigh has spoken out periodically since the April 19, 1995, attack, and in an interview with the authors of a recent book he admitted culpability for the first time. But after one of the most extensive and expensive criminal investigations in history, countless journalistic exposés and the unusually candid revelations of his defense psychiatrist, McVeigh will die an enigma.a. Law enforcement officials know little more about what drives McVeigh than the rote anti-government propaganda he spews. His stubborn refusal to express any remorse, coupled with his engaging and polite personality, has incensed prosecutors and victims and tormented his father. Although McVeigh has finally offered a rationale for the bombing, he has otherwise shed little light on how a bright, kind boy known as Timmy, and a decorated Persian Gulf War veteran admired by his fellow soldiers, came to commit one of the largest mass murders in American history. He has instructed his attorneys to reveal nothing about his final hours until after he is dead -- not his handpicked execution witnesses, not his last meal, not his last words, not how he wants his remains disposed of. . . McVeigh is allowed 15 minutes of phone time a day for media interviews, but his attorney Rob Nigh Jr. said he is not using it -- although he continues to write journalists. He has selected five of the six witnesses he is permitted to have in the death chamber when he is executed by injection on May 16, but he won't reveal their identities. Sources say that two of them will be his attorneys -- Nigh and Nathan Chambers -- and a third will be Lou Michel, co-author of American Terrorist, a recent book on McVeigh. But he has asked his family to stay away, and no priest or spiritual adviser will be present. McVeigh has, however, written about a dozen people asking them to be outside the death chamber to balance the media coverage, said one person who received the letter. Bob Papovich, a Michigan family friend of Terry Nichols -- McVeigh's convicted co-conspirator -- will be there. Allen Smith, a friend from the Army, said he will also be there at McVeigh's request to help safely transport his remains from the federal penitentiary back to New York state, where he was born -- a security concern of both McVeigh's and the government's.s. But one woman, who has known McVeigh since he was a child and who had agreed to be there for him, has changed her mind. Liz McDermott, a friend and former neighbor of the McVeigh family, said that for six years she has taken a tiny bit of solace in believing that McVeigh was the fall guy for a larger conspiracy. But after she read American Terrorist, in which McVeigh boasts of being the mastermind behind the bombing, she was devastated. I guess I had blinders on, she said. The book was just awful to read. I still love Tim. I just hate what he did..'I Can't Make Sense of It' In American Terrorist, Michel and Dan Herbeck detail the progression of McVeigh's anti-government sentiment and his growing sense of isolation and rage. McVeigh, who cooperated with the project, for the first time acknowledged blowing up the Murrah Building to avenge the 1992 government siege at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, during which an FBI sniper killed the wife and son of separatist Randy Weaver, and the 1993 federal raid on the Branch Davidian religious sect near Waco, Tex., in which about 80 people were killed, including 22 children.. But Michel and Herbeck, whose book has provoked considerable controversy because McVeigh's words go largely unchallenged in it, did not succeed much better than anyone else in penetrating his emotions. What could make a man hate so much, and feel so little, that he would kill 19 children and later call them collateral damage? Or ridicule the relatives of his victims as the woe-is-me crowd? There are some clues: a broken home and chronic low self-esteem, the death of disappointment with the Army after the Persian Gulf War, and finally his frustrating inability to find a suitable job or develop a meaningful relationship with a
[CTRL] Conspirators-OKC Bombing
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,485866,00.html Conspirators On May 16, Timothy McVeigh is due to be executed for his part in the Oklahoma City bombing. He claims the blast was all his own work. But, Jon Ronson discovers, there were probably others, government agents even, who knew what was afoot Saturday May 5, 2001 The Guardian Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber, is a conspiracy theorist. He believes that a shadowy elite of bankers and industrialists and politicians are plotting in secret to take over the world, disarm gun enthusiasts and implement a sinister New World Order - a world government that will destroy anyone who disobeys. McVeigh considered the Murrah building in Oklahoma City to be the local headquarters of the New World Order. Sure, McVeigh was fully aware that innocent secretaries and receptionists would be killed as a result of the massive truck bomb he detonated on April 19, 1995. But he was a keen Star Wars fan and he compared those innocents to the "space-age clerical workers inside the Death Star. Those people weren't storm troopers. But they were vital to the operations of the Evil Empire. And when Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star, the movie audiences cheered. The bad guys were beaten. That was all that really mattered." It is, therefore, churlish of McVeigh to scornfully dismiss - as crazy paranoid nuts - the legions of conspiracy theorists who believe that the truth of the Oklahoma City bombing has yet to be officially recognised. McVeigh is seething about this inside his death row cell. He is due to be executed on May 16. He feels the conspiracy theories are tainting his impending martyrdom. "You can't handle the truth," he has said. "And the truth is that it is pretty scary that one guy can do this all alone." The conspiracy theories centre on a bizarre white separatist encampment on the Oklahoma/Arkansas border called Elohim City and two of its regular visitors: a flamboyant neo-Nazi called Dennis Mahon and an extraordinary German called Andy Strassmeir. McVeigh says the Elohim City conspiracy theories are nonsense, a red herring. But I didn't know what to think. They seemed pretty convincing to me. Perhaps I am becoming a conspiracy nut. Whatever, I wanted to meet the alleged co-conspirators. It would, at least, be interesting to ask them how it felt to be widely considered, by conspiracy theorists, to be the hidden hands behind the Oklahoma City bombing. It was a Monday morning in early April. Dennis Mahon was jumpy and on the run in Arizona. "It drives you crazy," he said. "Thousands think I was involved. I've started to believe it myself. Maybe I was there. Maybe they brainwashed me and I forgot about it. Maybe I can get hypnotised and remember it. Everybody said I was there. Everybody said I drove the truck. They saw me." This is true. In the immediate aftermath of the bombing, many passers-by claimed to have seen McVeigh in Oklahoma City with unknown others. One witness drew a sketch of a John Doe who looked remarkably like how Dennis Mahon might look in dark glasses and a pencil moustache. "Maybe there's somebody out there who looks like me," said Dennis. "I'm just about ready to turn myself in and tell them, 'Okay motherfuckers, I did it'. But I didn't." Then Dennis showed me his scar - the result, he said, of a stress-related intestinal infection. But for all of this Dennis Mahon seemed secretly thrilled to be a central player in the alternative history of the Oklahoma bombing. Columbia Pictures is even considering making a movie of the story I am about to tell. "It'll be a hell of a good movie," he said. "I hope Tom Berenger plays me. But one guy said Danny DeVito's going to play me. That'll devastate me. I'll leave the country." Dennis peered through the curtains of our secret rendezvous location: Room 315 of the Hampton Inn near Phoenix airport. "The Feds are on my tail!" he stammered. "The bastard sons of the FBI followed me here. See that white car?" "Why are they following you?" I asked. "Well, Tim McVeigh did all his training over there," he said, pointing west to Kingman, Arizona. "And he's going to be executed. And they're afraid there might be retaliation for that. And there very well might be.There very, very, very well might be." Dennis Mahon is a veteran neo-Nazi. He was famous before the Oklahoma bombing conspiracy theories. When you see him in old Ku Klux Klan recruitment videos from the 80s , he looks striking and quick-witted. Now he is jowly, the spitting image of the actor John Goodman. "Yeah, I'm an old guy now," says Dennis. "I'm an old comrade. I've seen changes. More lone wolfism. One man one act. These stupid Klan guys want to be circus clowns. And the Klan's targets are just little negroes. And then they get drunk in a pub and talk about it. You've got to raise your sights a little bit. If you're going to get 10 years for calling somebody a nigger, or throwing a rock through a synagogue
[CTRL] Bob Kerry-Phoenix Program Hitman???
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/ken/pho.htm
"The target for 1969 calls for the elimination of 1800 VCI per month" -
'Vietnam Information Notes,' published by the U.S. State Department in July
1969. [Note: 'VCI' means 'Viet Cong Infrastructure.' 'Viet Cong' was
Washington's psychological warfare term for the National Liberation Front
of Vietnam.]
Bob Kerrey: A Phoenix Program hit man?
by Ken McCarthy [2 May 2001]
Unfortunately for the reputation of Mr. Kerrey and his Vietnam SEAL team,
they appear to have overlooked at least one witness to their visit to Thanh
Phong 32 years ago, a 12 year old girl.
According to this witness (and one of Kerrey's own men), civilians there were
not killed accidentally, but rather were systematically murdered in cold
blood, gangster-style. The goal: to cover their tracks.
"Until Saturday, Bui Thi Luom had never heard the name Bob Kerrey. She had
no idea that he served as governor of Nebraska and U.S. senator and once
ran for president.
"But she did know that 32 years ago, seven American commandos sneaked into
her village in the Mekong Delta and killed 15 members of her family--all
women and children. Luom, wounded in the knee, was the only one to escape.
She was 12.
'"They killed people in cold blood,' she said Saturday as she recounted the
incident to journalists for the first time. 'They should have been
punished.'
"Kerrey, now 57, was the leader of an elite Navy SEAL unit that attacked
Thanh Phong on Feb. 25, 1969...The Americans had killed 20 civilians,
including 13 children and a pregnant woman, during the two-stage attack."
('LA Times,' April 29, 2001, see http://www.iht.com/articles/18476.htm )
Missing from accounts so far is an informed description of the particulars of
the mission Kerrey and his men were on. There's a good reason for that:
Kerrey Co. may have been a political assassination team working on behalf
of the CIA's Phoenix Program.
According to reports, they were in Thanh Phong looking for "a Viet Cong
leader (who) was operating in the village."
The purpose of their search? To "take him out." Clearly this was not a "fire
fight" with enemy troops.
Who was the leader they were seeking with the intent to kill? Before you jump
to the conclusion that he was a "military" leader, realize that "a Viet Cong
leader" could well mean the hamlet's mayor or head man. Or some other
civilian authority.
In other words, this man may have been targeted for assassination for his
political opinions.
Definition:
"The Phoenix or Phuong Hoang Operation was originally designed to
'neutralize,' that is assassinate or imprison, members of the civilian
infrastructure (VCI) of the National Liberation Front (NLF).
"In a document entitled Vietnam: Toward Peace and Prosperity, published by
the Saigon Ministry of Information [i.e., the pro-U.S. regime in Saigon]
the GVN states that 'The Phoenix program was launched on August, 1, 1968,
in order to eradicate the communist infrastructure, with the following
results;...Killed--40,994.'
"[Phoenix program and later CIA director William] Colby himself testified
that Phoenix had resulted in the deaths of 20,587 persons as of May 1971.
This number, [made] proportionate to population, would total over 200,000
Americans deliberately assassinated over a three-year period, were Phoenix
in practice in the United States." (See 'Operation Phoenix' by Ralph McGee,
at http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/shwv/articles/phoenix.htm)
Given the artfully vague media descriptions of Kerrey's mission, it is
entirely possible that he and his men were doing their dirty work for the
CIA's Phoenix Program which carried out the assassination of thousands of
'Viet Cong' (National Liberation Front) civilian leaders. Oliver North cut
his teeth in this Program, a fact mostly obscured during coverage of the
Iran-Contra Hearings.
Participation in the Phoenix program appears to have been good career move
for those involved.
SEALs were a favorite source for Phoenix Program personnel. More often than
not, Vietnamese military refused to participate.
Meanwhile, Kerrey and company are working overtime getting their stories
straight. I'm sure they're getting plenty of behind-the-scenes help.
"The counterattack launched by former senator Bob Kerrey against The New
York Times and CBS over the weekend was planned, you could say, like a
military operation. Kerrey had the five ex-members of his SEALs squad who
support his version of the tragic events in Vietnam transported here Friday
from all over the United States. I understand they were put up (along with
staffers from the Washington PR agency that's doing damage control for
Kerrey) at the swank Lowell Hotel - the Upper East Side inn where stars who
don't want to be recognized often stay under phony names. Then, at about 8
p.m., the party traveled to the Manhattan home provided for Kerrey by the
New School University, where he is the newly installed president. The group
met until 2 a.m., thrashing out a consensus of
Re: [CTRL] Behold a Mad Cow
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- Please, Mr Schwartz aka Joshua aka Nurev - no Goldbergs in my family but once was a Rosenberg and a Greencastle Stamey in 1839. You may call me Mrs. Rosenberg. And you may call me Mr. Two. Since you still don't know what you are talking about. Joshua2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Screw Yahoo
-Caveat Lector- Some of the new viruses disable Zone Alarm. On Fri, 4 May 2001 19:46:32 -0700 Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Well, the lists are back up, it seems. I've gotten all my digest up through yesterday. Running a day behind is par for the course. As for all those assorted cookie monsters on the Net: I created a shortcut to my cookies folder and put it right on the desktop. It gets opened and emptied every time I'm online. I also HIGHLY recommend Zone Alarm http://www.zonelarm.com firewall protection (Thanks Mike Spitzer for pointing me to it). Within 5 minutes of installing it, it blocked someone from accessing my computer. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Money Gouging UN - Throw Them Out
It's nice to be important, but it is important to be nice.Unsub directions are at the bottom of this message. This is a discussion list and all opinions are that of the writer only. Feel free to respond. --- Sponsor's Message -- Get Only the Best Lists! Get a daily profile of the best lists at Topica, FREE! http://click.topica.com/cPIbUrGVebVsrbVa/BestLists Get Ready to Fork Over Your Money to U.N. Wes Vernon Saturday, May 5, 2001 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/5/4/161624.shtml WASHINGTON - You are expected to pony up money to finance United Nations corruption, along with the America-haters in the organization hacking away at U.S. sovereignty. The House next week is set to vote on a proposal to pay $582 million for what the House leadership says are reductions in America's share of U.N. dues and peacekeeping costs. Further, we are told that this lower assessment rate will provide more than $2 billion in savings to American taxpayers over the next 10 years. Nonsense, says Cliff Kincaid, whose America's Survival Inc. argues that we do not owe any money to the U.N. in the first place. So paying the money in reductions in future 'assessments' from the U.N. is not defensible. Further, he says, House Majority Leader Dick Armey once sponsored the U.N. Erroneous Debt Act, so he knows better. Kincaid calls the assessment a U.N. tax on the American people. We are now paying about one-third of all U.N. costs to subsidize an organization of countries that mostly despise us. China, by contrast, pays only about 1 percent, and seems to dominate the U.N. That being the case, Kincaid suggests perhaps China can pay one-third and we can pay the 1 percent. At least that would reflect which nation most often gets its way at the world body. Ted Turner's Pet Project This bailout, already passed by the Senate, was approved Wednesday by the House International Relations Committee just a few days after CNN boss Ted Turner, referred to by Kincaid as a billionaire bigot, urged release of the dues money in a letter to House Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill. Although Turner and other one-worlders try convince Americans that this money enables the U.N. to sit around and make peace by feeding the hungry, etc., American taxpayers are being asked to fork over their hard-earned cash at the same time that U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has announced plans to erect a $90 million visitors center as monument to this globalism. It appears some of the dollars will pay for condoms for U.N. peacekeepers because, America's Survival notes and U.S. officials have confirmed, U.N. soldiers have been spreading AIDS around the world. The Senate deal for passing the dues bill was brokered by Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The U.N. is supposed to get the money in exchange for cutting the U.S. share of the operating budget from 25 to 22 percent, and the peacekeeping budget from 31 to 25 percent. However, the U.N. allowed the U.S. share of the peacekeeping budget to go down to only 26.5 percent. Honesty Punished For years, the United States refused to pay this money until the United Nations made some badly needed reforms. The U.N.'s top budget analyst, Linda Shenwick, was fired by the Clinton-Gore administration for an all-too-typical reason: She told the truth. She testified before Congress about the corruption in the world body. Without Shenwick on the job, there is no way to monitor the shenanigans that have been going on there. And the corruption and high-living, courtesy of the American taxpayer, continue unabated. M.D.B. Carlisle, assistant defense secretary in the Reagan administration, and Daniel Oliver, onetime chairman of the FTC, co-wrote a piece in Thursday's Washington Times detailing how the Clintonistas are still running things at the American delegation to the United Nations. Bush's ambassador to the U.N. has not been confirmed yet. These are not career bureaucrats in the saddle there. These are hardened Bush-hating left-wingers who will go out of their way to obstruct anything this administration does to protect American interests if that is seen as getting in the way of a determined globalism. For example, they plotted to prevent the appointment of the center-right John Bolton as U.S. ambassador, and letting it be known that he would even be considered persona non grata. Why? Because, according to Carlisle and Oliver, they knew he was acquainted with the inside workings and could not be manipulated. When the bill to pick American taxpayers' pockets is voted on in the House of Representatives by midweek, someone might want to demand that Bush first fire his enemies there, just as Bill Clinton fired U.N. appointees of the first President Bush almost immediately after arriving at the White House. Then after that is taken care of, some lawmaker
[CTRL] Coca Growers just keep moving......
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Sat, 05 May 2001 23:09:30 -0400 From: David Goldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CIA-DRUGS] Coca Growers just keep moving.. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] From www.nyt.com March 17, 2001 In the War on Coca, Colombian Growers Simply Move Along By JUAN FORERO LORENTE, Colombia, March 12 This isolated town used to be as sedate and dirt poor as all the rest. Then came coca and its byproducts, discos and prostitutes, pool halls and cantinas, cheap hotels and the businesses that cater to newcomers, stores with wood planks, tin sheeting and other materials for flimsy but serviceable housing. The change began more than a year ago, local government officials and residents say, but accelerated with a huge American-backed campaign to destroy coca fields in adjacent Putumayo Province. The effort, the officials said, displaced coca growers and their crops, sending them to the jungles here in Nariño Province. It is a familiar pattern. Coca came to Colombia because of success in eliminating it in Bolivia and Peru, without aerial spraying. What the fumigation did was to transfer the phenomenon from Putumayo to Nariño, said Gov. Parmenio Cuéllar of Nariño. And if they fumigate Nariño, the problem will go to another place. Nowhere are the effects more visible than in this town on Highway 10, once a sleepy community of poor farmers that is luring hundreds of former Putumayo farmers, coca-laboratory workers and others drawn by the coca trade. They call this Little Putumayo, and they say people who are coming here are leaving Putumayo because of the fumigation, said the Rev. Domingo Moreno, a Roman Catholic priest who works in Llorente. The people, more and more, are lured by coca, tempted by the magic leaf. Not only are they starting to plant coca, but they're also leaving behind the other plants they grew, plantation bananas and cacao. Critics of aerial defoliation say the expansion of coca in Nariño and elsewhere bore out a central warning about the plan to destroy coca in Putumayo: that eradication in one region causes coca to move to others. The argument I've always made is that the fumigation will not, in any way, do away with the coca fields, said Carlos Palacios, an expert on the coca trade and the human development secretary in the town of Valle del Guamués in Putumayo. What fumigation does is that it causes the fields to simply transfer to other places. Opposition to spraying is so strong in southern Colombia that mayors, church officials and others have been pushing President Andrés Pastrana's government and the United States to stop the spraying. Mr. Cuéllar and three other governors visited Washington this week to criticize the program and to lobby for aid to improve agriculture. American officials counter that the size of the Nariño crop, with fewer than 15,000 acres under cultivation, is manageable compared with the 250,000 acres that existed in the coca-growing heartland of Putumayo and Caquetá Provinces before large-scale spraying began in late December. The Americans also note that the movement of people and planting of coca in Nariño began long before the spraying in Putumayo. The Americans say the defoliation effort, called Plan Colombia, with its reliance on crop dusters, military helicopters and battalions of Colombian antinarcotics troops, is intended to contain the spread of coca. The plan is intended to apply pressure in more places simultaneously than previously possible, said Jim Mack, deputy assistant secretary of state for international narcotics and law enforcement. But the officials, and their Colombian counterparts, are worried. We're concerned about Nariño, an official at the American Embassy said. Right now, there's a lot more coca
