Re: [CTRL] Myths of a Palestinian Homeland j2
-Caveat Lector- You must be kidding, Joshua. Why read real historical accounts or true facts when you can just make it up for yourself? The truth can be whatever you want it to be if you only subscribe to this way of thinking. And I say the sky is green. I dare you to prove me wrong! Huh, you say it's blue? I knew it! You must be a spy for the COTSA! I know it's really YOU Adam! Are you people researchers or clowns like Saba? You could easily find out if Farrah is telling the truth or not. All you need to do is find histories of the region that predate WWII. That way you won't get either side's propaganda. This isn't he said, she said people. The truth is out there. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cleaning for the Redeemer
-Caveat Lector- Saba, I would think that as one who claims to understand the scriptures, you could figure out what this simple story of growth means. It is obvious that you only use the Bible to prove your pathetic theories instead of ever gaining knowledge from it. Your stategy is sadly obvious: If someone knows more than you(i.e.EVERYONE), call them names. Typical racist bullsh*t. You have not one ounce of grace in you. It is clear to me, as a newcomer to this list, that nobody takes you seriously except yourself(or should I say selves). I hope you find the truth someday before it bites you in the ass. -Ashley As for Joshua, his truth is his own truth; to be he is the biggest liar since Jonah said he was swallowed by a big white whale. Saba _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Mideast War Alert
-Caveat Lector- Hey William, Why is it that you keep posting crap from or about Lyndon LaRouche? Are you a Neo-Nazi? He's a total freak and I can't imagine any sane person giving him his/her attention. Ashley From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] LaRouche- Mideast War Alert Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:23:20 EDT A HREF=http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/2001/010727war_alert.html;http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/2001/010727war_alert.html/A PRESS RELEASE Mideast War Alert On July 28-29 Weekend This statement was issued by EIR on July 27, 2001. Lyndon LaRouche has issued a blunt warning that Ariel Sharon and even more hardline warhawks in Israel may launch their long-planned military assault against the Palestinian Authority as early as Sunday, July 29. Events in the Middle East conform to the desires of a faction of the Anglo-American financial oligarchy, who wish to detonate a Mideast-triggered religious clash of civilizations in the near term, to block any further momentum toward a Eurasian development alliance that could strip them of their power. Sources in the Middle East cited three developments this week that could signal that Israel is preparing to launch a full-scale assault into the Palestinian Authority territories, aimed at driving a majority of the population into Jordan, exterminating the Yasser Arafat leadership group, and permanently annexing the territory of Judea, Samaria, and Galilee. 1-Early this week, Israeli Defense Force Chief of Staff General Mofaz made a five-hour trip to Turkey, possibly to pre-alert the Turkish military to a planned operation into the PA territory. Turkey has been conducting secret back-channel negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians, and, according to one account, General Mofaz may have asked the Turks to halt their efforts. Turkey is planning to purchase Israeli-made Arrow anti-missile batteries, and Israel would not wish to jeopardize that sale by keeping the Turkish military in the dark, were they to plan a major military operation against the Palestinians. 2-The United States has escalated its pressure on Israel to accept an observer force. President Bush came under strong pressure from Russia and from the European Union at last weekend's G-8 summit in Genoa, to support the deployment of international observers, and the Administration has, since then, reportedly been pushing the Sharon government to acquiesce to the demand, that was included in the G-8 final communiques. 3-Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, on July 26, made statements that were published in Ha'aretz and in the Jerusalem Post, warning that one more suicide bomb would seal the fate of the Palestinian Authority. This statement is being interpreted as a possible warning, that the Israeli secret services could, themselves, trigger such an attack, in order to provide the pretext for the long-planned invasion of Area A. The source was unsure of whether Peres was, himself, signalling that he was now prepared to accept the inevitability of a military solution to the stalemate. LaRouche commented on Friday that nothing is in the works to prevent an early launching of an Israeli military assault on the Palestinian territories, and, that, taking into account the character of the people we are dealing with, this weekend represents a particular danger point. LaRouche reiterated his statements on his A HREF=http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2001/010724_webcast.html;July 24, 2001 LaRouche in 2004 campaign webcast, that /Aonly an intervention from the U.S. could convince the parties behind this planned war offensive to call it off. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE
Re: [CTRL] Candidate accused by former patient
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Below please find info on this article. Sincerely, Neil Brick Candidate accused by former patient by Thomas R. O'Donnell - Des Moines Register - 10/28/98 - A former Iowan who won a $ 10.6 million settlement from a Chicago hospital and two psychiatrists said the diagnosis of multiple personalities and repressed memories of satanic cults that led to her lawsuit originated with a West Des Moines clinical social worker. But the social worker, Ann-Marie Baughman, now a Polk County legislative candidate, said that when she started counseling Patricia Burgus in 1982, Burgus was a troubled woman who was threatening to kill herself and others. Burgus...also was displaying behavior that Baughman could not understand. It was the physical changes more than just the verbal expressions of what she was telling me that led Baughman to conclude she was seeing multiple personalities. The muscles in her face would all relax . . . and she would just look different. It was just the eeriest thing. But suggestions that Braun somehow planted the horrific memories in Burgus' head are wrong, Baughman said, because they started surfacing during her sessions with Burgus in Des Moines. In the settlement, reached last fall after six years of litigation, neither the hospital nor the psychiatrists, Braun and Elva Poznanski, admitted fault. Braun has said his insurance company settled over his objections. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cleaning for the Redeemer j2
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- Oh knock of the hate jews crap Joshua2...gloat over people being killed? Israel wants to go to war let them go to war and get it the hell over. Look at the billions of dollars the USA has sent to Israel and see how our kindness and yes CHARITY has been returned - the USS Liberty - those israli planes were paid for with US Taxdollars. Israel wanted the war - there it is and it is their choice, but do not expect the Yanks to save their asses this time..remember Joshua, it was 55 million people who died in WWII not 6 million jews. What was it Sharon said - the Arabs had the oil but he had the matches - so who will light the match? Zionism is fascism - and the world has gotten a good look at it - in Israel you have jewish women, christian women, and moslem women organized now to say what Prince Faisal told me 30 years ago - they want to live in peace and the Zionists iwll not let them. USA did the right thing - we are no longer the ACE in the Hole for the Israelis.we paid for the defense sysems, so they want to go to war they have been armed. But what you want Joshua - another Littleton, two kids with uzis and propange gas tanks, attacking unarmed kids - calling it their Judgment Day? Bullies? Who are the bullies.Creating water shortages when Israelis have swimming pools in yard for the Palestins to see when their water is threatened? RASE IT RASE IT RASE IT...dash the heads of he children against the stones? This is the motto of the Zionists - and I remember the olive trees destroyed too. Talk about the slaughter of the innocentswell, when Sadaam Hussein goes to war this time, the Yanks won't interfere - what will be, will be. Saba You have persecution complex Joshua2 - you still believe only 6 million people died in WWII and all were Jews? What happened to the other 55 million and who buried them - covered them up, or incinerated the bodies before disease spread.who paved the road to Zion? Now you see the face of Zonism and you do not even recognize the enemy. That's beautiful baby. You have convinced me with your knowledge and intelligence. Not to mention your expertise with simple subtraction. Where do I sign up for Saddam's special forces? I wanna be a Saddam Ranger, Live me a life of thrills and danger. I'll kick dem Jews in their big fat butts, if Saba would only kiss my putz. * You da best Colleen, Love always, J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Cleaning for the Redeemer
-Caveat Lector- Bill Howard wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/30/01 4:45:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Silly man. The Lord of the Universe has made HIS chosen people immune to Raid. Didn't you read that in the Bible? That being the case, we will have use Sarin gas. I suggest that you sniff it first to make sure it's fresh. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Finally the truth about Palestinian ' right of return ' .
-Caveat Lector- Special Dispatch - Egypt July 31, 2001 No. 248 An Egyptian Intellectual: Arabs Must Use the Demographic Factor Against Israel In the London based daily Al-Hayat (1), Dr. Wahid Abd Al-Magid, the editor of Al-Ahram's Arab Strategic Report yearbook, wrote: The way to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is through changing the demographic balance within Israel's pre-1967 'Green Line' assuming that Israel will have to resort to racist policies. Dr. Abd Al-Magid's plan is based, primarily, on Israel's Arab community stopping Jewish immigration to Israel and supporting the settlement of Palestinians inside 'The Green Line,' in order to establish one Palestinian state with Jews living under the umbrella of our Arab culture: In an article titled Arabs must take advantage of the demographic threat on Israel, Dr. Abd Al-Magid wrote: ...The Arabs of 1948 [i.e. Israeli Arabs] may become a majority in Israel in 2035, and they will certainly be the majority in 2048, a century after their Nakbah and first defeat. We must establish scenarios for the crisis' management in the future. In these scenarios, there should be a special status for the 1948 Palestinians. It is not long before they become the supreme [decision-makers], who control the conflict... The demographic threat does not derive solely from the 1948 Palestinians' natural increase, but also from the infiltration of thousands of Palestinians into Israel. These stay in Israel and create facts on the ground through marriage with citizens of the 1948 population... Therefore, there is a possibility that Israel would have to expose its racism and try, in vain, to hide [the scale of this phenomenon] through policies of denying some of the social rights of the 1948 Palestinians, or through various oppressive measures... This would require a serious Arab action... that would be difficult, unless the political elites and the security apparatuses in some Arab countries heal from the disease of suspecting and fearing the 1948 Palestinians... We must support the connections [between Israeli Arabs and Arab countries] so that better opportunities develop for Arab action whose purpose is to make use of and increase the demographic threat that faces Israel. The first goal should be an organized action to expose the racism of Zionism and with an effort to renew the UN resolution that equates Zionism with racism, in order to exercise external pressure on Tel Aviv that will decrease its ability to carry out domestic measures [to counter] that demographic threat. Today, there are Arab efforts to launch a campaign against Israel in the UN International Conference Against Racism that is organized by the UN in South Africa. This should be the beginning of a continuous action and not a seasonal action that will end with the conference. The second goal is to confront the Jewish immigration that the Jewish Agency tries to encourage once again - after the numbers of immigrants to Israel have decreased in the first six months of this year... True, the continuation of the Intifada guarantees the foiling of the Zionist efforts to increase the immigration, and may even encourage emigration in the opposite direction, but the Arab league, with the cooperation of Arab non-governmental organizations, can also have a role by starting a dialogue with the Jewish organizations in [the former USSR] states. Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all immigrants are Israel lovers. Some of them were forced to immigrate under the pressure of economic and social conditions that are being used by the Jewish Agency to encourage their immigration to Israel. We can act to foil the role of this Agency, through dialogue with the Jewish organization in the immigrant-exporting states. Our claims should not be limited to the moral aspect. We could describe to the Jews of Russia and its neighbors the situation of Russian immigrants in Israel, more than half of whom suffer of conditions that are no less difficult than those that had made them immigrate, in addition to the disappointment and the marginalization felt by those immigrants, a phenomenon that was mentioned by Ana Isakova in an important article in Maariv. A third goal, which can be shouldered by the civil economic non-governmental institutions in the Arab world and especially in Jordan and Egypt, is to support the movement of Palestinians from PA territories and from elsewhere into Israeli 'Green Line' borders. Such a movement exists, but it is random and requires organizing, especially since the Israeli authorities have increased their counter-measures. We are capable of increasing the demographic threat against Israel, if we demonstrate the necessary determination. It is high time for long-term planning of the management of the Arab-Israeli crisis, whose life is still long. We must give the 1948 Palestinians the status they deserve, because without them, we cannot make Palestine again Arab - and not bi-national - Arab Palestine in
[CTRL] [Fwd: [Spy News] Hot: Code Red Worm InfoSec Bulletin]
-Caveat Lector- Code Red Worm InfoSec Bulletin http://www.digitalisland.net/codered/ As a service to the Internet community, Digital Island http://www.digitalisland.net/ is providing global access to these consensus step-by-step instructions for eliminating the Code Red worm vulnerability. The information provided here is from the SANS Institute. In addition, we are making available the SANS Institute's short course audio http://www.digitalisland.net/codered/CodeRed.mp3, PPT http://www.digitalisland.net/codered/CodeRed.ppt, and PDF http://www.digitalisland.net/codered/CodeRed.pdf on how to eliminate the problem in Microsoft's IIS web server that makes Windows NT and Windows 2000 systems vulnerable to the Code Red worm. Code Red has already infected more than 300,000 Windows servers and, on July 19th, caused major degradation of the Internet. It will begin a new infestation on Tuesday evening, July 31. Anyone who runs Windows 2000 or Windows NT may be infecting other users and hurting performance on the Internet (Windows 95, 98, and ME users are unaffected). Patching your system to keep it from being infected is critically important. Follow this easy three-step process for protecting your computer if you are running IIS version 4 or 5 on your computer, and you have not yet installed the Code Red patch. To execute this process, you must be logged onto your computer's administrator account, or an account that has administrative privilege on your computer. To determine whether you are running IIS, Launch Task Manager (an easy way to do that is to hit CTRL, ALT, and DEL keys at the same time, and then click on 'Task Manager' in the dialogue box) Go to Processes Tab and look for Inetinfo.exe in the image name column. If it is there, you are running IIS and need to install the necessary patch. If not, you are not running IIS and no further action is required. If you find you are running IIS 4.0 or 5.0, then do the following: Step 1. Download the patch from Microsoft 1.1 Create a folder anywhere on your hard drive and name it Microsoft-patches so you'll have a place to store this patch and future patches 1.2 Windows 2000 and Windows NT have separate patches. Select the appropriate one and save the file in the folder you created in Step 1.1. . Windows NT version 4.0: http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/Release.asp?ReleaseID=30833 . Windows 2000 Professional, Server and Advanced Server: http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/Release.asp?ReleaseID=30800 Step 2. Install the patch 2.1 Double click in Windows Explorer. You may find Windows Explorer behind the Start button or somewhere on the Programs menu. 2.2 Go to the Microsoft-patches folder you created in Step 1.1 2.3 Find the patch: In Windows NT, the patch is named simply: Q300972i.exe In Windows 2000, it is called: q300972_w2k_sp3_x86_en.exe 2.4 Double click on the patch program 2.5 When it has finished, you will see a small pop-up that shows your system has been updated: http://www.digitalisland.net/codered/CodeRed-Step2.jpg Step 3. Reboot your system to clear the worm from RAM By rebooting you not only activate your patch, but you also clean out the worm if you had been previously infected . Optional verification step: If you want to see whether your system has been patched correctly, open a command prompt (from the Start menu, click Run). Then run the patch program from the command line (include its folder in the command) and use the -L dash L switch. Running this command will give you a listing of all the hot fixes that are installed on your machine. If the patch was installed successfully, you'll see its name in the list. http://www.digitalisland.net/codered/CodeRed-Step3.jpg Additional Resources Additional information about the patch and its installation, and the vulnerability it addresses is available at: htt p:/ /ww w.m icr oso ft. com /technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-033.asp. If you are concerned that damage may have been done to your system by the worm, you may wish to follow the recovery procedures documented at: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/root_compromise.html. PLEASE NOTE: The patches can be installed only on Windows 2000 and Window NT 4.0 systems that have had recent service packs installed. If your system does not already have the required service pack, the patch installation will produce an error message advising you that the patch will not install on your system. For free download of Windows 2000 Service Pack 2, go to http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/servicepacks/sp2/default.asp. For free download of Window NT 4.0 Service Pack 6a, go to http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/recommended/SP6/allSP6.asp. If you have problems installing the patch, contact Microsoft product support at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Questions related to installation and support of all security patches are handled without charge. The SANS Institute has
[CTRL] Capitalism, not overpopulation is #1 cause of environmental destruction.
-Caveat Lector- ACTION ALERT *** FOREST CONSERVATION NEWS TODAY Citigroup Funding Deforestation in Indonesia *** Forest Networking a Project of Forests.org, Inc. http://forests.org/ -- Forest Conservation Portal http://forests.org/links/ -- Forest Conservation Links http://forests.org/indomalay/ -- Indonesia and Malaysia Rainforest Conservation News and Information TAKE ACTION: Citigroup Funding Deforestation in Indonesia http://www.ran.org/info_center/aa/aa154_citi2.html 07/30/01 OVERVIEW COMMENTARY by Forests.org Rainforest Action Network and others have launched a major campaign against Citigroup - the largest U.S. financial institution. Citigroup is an international leader in the financing of destructive oil and gas, mining, and commercial logging operations. In Indonesia, Citigroup has been a major funder of companies engaged in oil palm and paper pulp production, leading to massive deforestation of these globally critical rainforest ecosystems. If the World's rainforests are to be conserved it is important that rainforest activists go beyond railing against globalization in general, and hold corporations responsible for such specific instances of ecological misdeeds. Holding Citigroup, Boise Cascade, ExxonMobil (Esso) and others responsible for activities that threaten the world's forests, climate and other ecosystems is an excellent eco- activist strategy. See RAN's Citigroup campaign page at http://www.ran.org/ran_campaigns/citigroup/ for more information on this exciting new rainforest campaign. To help launch this campaign, that is sure to grow until Citigroup yields to the will of the people and stops funding industrial ecocide, participate in the action alert below (or at http://www.ran.org/info_center/aa/aa154_citi2.html). Forests.org has gotten this alert to 5000+ forest conservation entities worldwide, but maximum efficacy depends upon you forwarding this alert widely and encouraging your friends and colleagues to sign-up for this free forest conservation email news at http://forests.org/forms/signlist.htm. g.b. *** RELAYED TEXT STARTS HERE: Title: Citigroup Funding Deforestation in Indonesia Source: Rainforest Action Network, http://www.ran.org/ Date: July 2001 AS THE FIRE SEASON in Southeast Asia approaches, international activists are increasingly concerned about the fate of Indonesia's rainforests. Of particular concern is the role of Citigroup (Citi), North America's largest financial institution, in fueling deforestation in the region. Citi is a key financial backer of some of the most environmentally egregious projects in Indonesia, including projects that have caused extensive rainforest destruction and pose an ongoing threat to the country's remaining old growth rainforests. Additional background information is included below. What You Can Do: Demand that Citi funds not be used in Indonesia or anywhere else to fund the destruction of forests, communities, and wildlife. You can send the email directly from RAN's web page at: http://www.ran.org/info_center/aa/aa154_citi2.html Or here is a sample letter that can be edited and sent to Citigroup at [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Stop funding the destruction of the rainforests! Sandy Weill CEO Citigroup Center 153 East 53rd Street New York, NY 10043 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Mr. Weill, I am outraged to learn that Citigroup is financing forest destruction in Indonesia at the expense of indigenous peoples and endangered species. As a key creditor of this devastating industry, you have the opportunity-and the influence-to halt further forest destruction in Indonesia. Almost 80 percent of the world's old growth forests have been destroyed or degraded. Indonesia houses 10 percent of what remains. I urge you to stop funding the destruction of old growth forests and to promote sustainable development in Indonesia and around the world. As one of the world's largest banks, Citi must set the standard for an ecologically sane, democratic, and just economy. Please let me know where you stand on this critical issue. Thank you, * Background Information One of Citi's top business partners in the region is Indonesia's most infamous palm oil company, London Sumatra (Lon Sum). Lon Sum has been implicated in illegal logging and human rights violations, and is suspected of being among the palm plantation companies that deliberately and illegally set fires in Indonesia in 1997. The devastating fires destroyed vast areas of rainforest, which the government then allocated to forest corporations. Many of these companies sought the increased operating area in order to pay off debt to foreign investors, such as Citi. Overall, palm oil plantations have claimed nearly eight million acres of native forest in Indonesia, and every year close to one million additional acres of forest are targeted for
[CTRL] Palestine ( sic )on the rack.
-Caveat Lector- Subject: Palestine on the rack. Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:29:09 +0100 From: afi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: afi [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to be the best informed...use AFI Research The Anglo-American partners who make up the AFI-Milnet-Orbat Intelligence network, offer one of the leading international sources of expert information on the worlds conflicts, armed forces, intelligence, security services and much more..contact us today to find out how we can help keep you ahead of the rest. AFI Research Armed Forces Intelligence International Research Information Service for the NewsMedia Contact[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bookmark www.geocities.com/afi_research/AFIindex.html For details of how you can buy either the full story below or an expanded version and for our fee structure for the full range of information and research available from AFI, contact us today ___ Please credit AFI Research if you use any part of this e-mail in any publication, website or broadcast Palestine - the pressure mounts Israel's total blockade of Palestinian territory is beginning to undermine the very existence of both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Israeli military deployments have split the occupied areas into convenient 'bite-sized' portions bringing the very fabric of every day life to a virtual standstill. An increasingly bleak prospect faces Arab businesses and the local utilities and while the standard of life and health continue to plummet, dissension amongst the Palestinian leadership grows daily. Even long term supporters of Yasser Arafat are now questioning his chances of survival, joining the ever growing array of dissenting elements. Antagonized by Arafats ban on the use of mortars, Hamas, Islamic Jihads and even members of Arafats own forces are intent on raising the stakes with a return to a sustained bombing and mortar campaign. Arafat is fearful that further bomb attacks will give Israel the excuse to launch a massive military invasion, but is aware that the alternatives are abject surrender or to accept the slow painful destruction of what remains of an independent Palestinian homeland, either are likely to bring his final downfall. Both the CIA and Israeli Intelligence have played a major part in keeping Arafat in power, but are now reassessing his continuing value to the prospects of maintaining the stability of the region. This has largely led to General Sharon's decision to dissect Palestine, which is being carried out with a combination of extreme political intransigence, massive military preparedness, the widespread use of the intelligence services, the insidious use of propaganda and the successful misleading of a largely compliant Western press. Covert operations are conducted from within the occupied territories by special units such as the Sayeret Duvedevan which conducts deep-cover penetration of Arab areas from its headquarters at Rama Army Base in Ramallah on the West Bank, while a considerable effort has been made to ensure that bases and arms dumps have been identified and that leading Palestinian militants are targeted for 'Kidon' style assassination by the Sayeret Mat'kal or by Israel's unique use of missile armed helicopters to ambush Palestinian vehicles. Communications within the occupied territories and links to other Arab nations are closely monitored by a nation-wide telephone 'bugging' system under the overall control of the internal security service, Shin Beth and by Unit-8200 from its headquarters in Herzliya with a network of listening stations at Mitzpah Ramon, Mount Hermon and Mount Meiron on the Golan Heights and from outstations including the joint NSA Unit-8200 intelligence base on the Eritrean island of Dahlak from which they monitor much of the Arab world. Palestine is on the rack and Israel is ratcheting up the pressure. General Sharon is listening to the hard-line Zionist views being expressed within his cabinet and particularly in the USA, and appears to be set on a course to restore Israels once fearsome reputation for military toughness. This will almost certainly involve major military operations against neighbouring Arab countries, and Sharon may also consider this a necessary pre-emptive strike in view of the contentious view expressed recently that Israel may not be able to survive an all out Arab attack without resorting to nuclear weapons! For the most comprehensive and expert information on the Middle East, contact AFI __ AFI, a commercial organization, has a well deserved reputation for confronting major issues with both impartiality and total independence from Government and Corporate influence
[CTRL] The Roots of Racial Profiling
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] The Roots of Racial Profiling Why are police targeting minorities for traffic stops? By Gene Callahan and William Anderson It is early in the morning, and the well-dressed young African-American man driving his Ford Explorer on I-75 sees the blue lights of the Georgia State Patrol car behind him. The officer pulls behind the sport utility vehicle and the young man's heart begins to sink. He is on his way to Atlanta for a job interview. The stop, ostensibly for speeding, should not take long, he reasons, as the highway patrol officer walks cautiously toward the Explorer. But instead of simply asking for a driver's license and writing a speeding ticket, the trooper calls for backup. Another trooper soon arrives, his blue lights flashing as well. The young man is told to leave his vehicle, as the troopers announce their intention to search it. Hey, where did you get the money for something like this? one trooper asks mockingly while he starts the process of going through every inch of the Explorer. Soon, an officer pulls off an inside door panel. More dismantling of the vehicle follows. They say they are looking for drugs, but in the end find nothing. After ticketing the driver for speeding, the two officers casually drive off. Sitting in his now-trashed SUV, the young man weeps in his anger and humiliation. Unmotivated searches like this are daily occurrences on our nation's highways, and blacks and white liberals have been decrying the situation for several years. Many conservatives, on the other hand, dismiss such complaints as the exaggerations of hypersensitive minorities. Or they say that if traffic cops do in fact pull over and search the vehicles of African Americans disproportionately, then such racial profiling is an unfortunate but necessary component of modern crime fighting. The incident described above should give pause to those who think that racial profiling is simply a bogus issue cooked up by black leaders such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to use as another publicity tool. One of us teaches in an MBA program that enrolls a fairly large number of African Americans, and the story comes from one of our students. Indeed, during class discussions, all of the black men and many of the black women told stories of having their late-model cars pulled over and searched for drugs. While incidents of racial profiling are widely deplored today, there is little said about the actual root cause of the phenomenon. The standard explanations for racial profiling focus on institutional racism, but that idea runs contrary to the sea change in social attitudes that has taken place over the last four decades. On the contrary, the practice of racial profiling grows from a trio of very tangible sources, all attributable to the War on Drugs, that $37 billion annual effort on the part of local, state, and federal lawmakers and cops to stop the sale and use of illicit substances. The sources include the difficulty in policing victimless crimes in general and the resulting need for intrusive police techniques; the greater relevancy of this difficulty given the intensification of the drug war since the 1980s; and the additional incentive that asset forfeiture laws give police forces to seize money and property from suspects. Since the notion of scaling back, let alone stopping, the drug war is too controversial for most politicians to handle, it's hardly surprising that its role in racial profiling should go largely unacknowledged. The Practice of Racial Profiling Although there is no single, universally accepted definition of racial profiling, we're using the term to designate the practice of stopping and inspecting people who are passing through public places -- such as drivers on public highways or pedestrians in airports or urban areas -- where the reason for the stop is a statistical profile of the detainee's race or ethnicity. The practice of racial profiling has been a prominent topic for the past several years. In his February address to Congress, President George W. Bush reported that he'd asked Attorney General John Ashcroft to develop specific recommendations to end racial profiling. It's wrong, and we will end it in America. The nomination of former New Jersey Gov. Christine Todd Whitman as head of the Environmental Protection Agency was challenged on the basis of her alleged complicity in racial profiling practices in the Garden State. Whitman had pioneered her own unique form of minority outreach when she was photographed frisking a black crime suspect in 1996. Copies of the photo were circulated to senators prior to her confirmation vote. (By the same token, in February 1999, Whitman fired State Police Superintendent Carl A. Williams after he gave a newspaper interview in which he justified racial profiling and linked minority groups to drug trafficking.) More recently, Eleanor Holmes Norton, the District of
Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Mideast War Alert
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: ashley Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Mideast War Alert Hey William, Why is it that you keep posting crap from or about Lyndon LaRouche? Are you a Neo-Nazi? He's a total freak and I can't imagine any sane person giving him his/her attention. Ashley Ashley, There may be a lot of things you can't imagine; none of them require your belief to exist, however. Neo-Nazi and freak are convenient labels; however, as I have said many times on this list, when labeling begins, thinking stops. LaRouche is a political radical and may be a bit over-fearful. Then again he may just know more than the rest of us. Even a small amount of balanced research shows that whether you agree with LaRouche or not his economic models and mathematical background go far beyond the average individual. The main difference between LaRouche and others is his fanaticism is more political and economic and less religious. I guess I prefer any type of fanaticism other than religious. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Shopper's little helper
Shopper's little helper-Salon.com http://salon.com/mwt/style/2001/07/30/shopping_pill/If compulsive shoppers get help in the form of a pill thanks to a university study, and the study was funded by the company that manufactures the pill, everybody wins, right? - - - - - - - - - - - -By Carina Chocano July 30, 2001 | If the dystopian novel does not already exist in which a state-sanctioned corporate behemoth takes over the earth, mind by mind, by successfully selling an illness in order to sell the cure, someone should write it. What other genre would do justice to the saga of the medicated American consumer -- and his or her doctor -- on a lifelong shopping spree? Lately, compulsive shopping, the illness, has been popping up in the news. Last May, U.S. District Judge Matthew F. Kennelly caused a stir when he reduced what could have been an 18-month jail sentence in an embezzlement and wire fraud case to two years of probation, six weeks of community service and a $3,000 fine. The defendant, Elizabeth Randolph Roach, had pleaded guilty to embezzling nearly a quarter of a million dollars from Andersen Consulting, where she earned a salary of $150,000 a year. Roach, who was described by her lawyer as a chronic depressive who shopped compulsively in an effort to "self-medicate," had padded her corporate expense reports over three years in order to finance epic retail benders (one came to $30,000) and help pay down her $500,000 credit card debt. Shortly before she was fired from her job, she was arrested for shoplifting at Neiman Marcus where, as a formerly valued customer, she had once spent $7,000 on a belt buckle and $9,000 on a handbag. Judge Kennelly bought the shopaholic defense, declaring her chronic depression "the driving force" behind the crime. Eight months before Roach's sentencing, Rosemary Heinen, an employee of Starbucks, was arrested for allegedly embezzling $3.7 million from her employer. Heinen's job consisted, in part, of reviewing and approving invoices that came into the company's information-technology department. Heinen reportedly created a bogus consulting company, which for a little under a year billed Starbucks for nonexistent services. When investigators searched the Heinen's suburban house, they reported finding it crammed with hundreds of boxes of Avon cosmetics, Barbie dolls and Franklin Mint products, all unopened. The hallways were clogged with piles of clothes and rooms were filled floor to ceiling with television sets, satellite receivers, Steinway pianos, stuffed animals and commemorative mugs. Also found were two motorcycles, a $200,000 powerboat and 31 cars -- including a 2001 911 Porsche Turbo and an inconspicuous yet practical Model T. Heinen agreed to repay $2.5 million and the items found her home have since been auctioned off to pay back Starbucks. Roach and Heinen fit the criteria for compulsive shopping, which falls under the category of "Impulse-Control Disorders, Not Otherwise Specified," in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatry Association. Researchers have characterized the ailment more specifically as "a preoccupation with purchasing unneeded items that causes marked distress, social or occupational impairment and/or financial problems." According to a variety of estimates, based mostly on limited university studies, 2 to 8 percent of Americans are believed to be compulsive shoppers; women who suffer from this condition outnumber men 9 to 1. And as is so often the case with newfangled disorders, the statistics have led to self-help books, which have paved the way, inevitably, to a pill. Last year, a team of researchers at Stanford University School of Medicine conducted a study on the effects of a drug called Celexa on compulsive shoppers; the initial results were published last fall. Dr. Lorrin Koran, a professor of psychiatry and the director of the obsessive-compulsive disorder clinic at Stanford University Medical Center, led the inquiry, which established that citalopram (Celexa is the brand name), a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, or SSRI, helped curb the urge to purchase in compulsive shoppers. Compulsive shoppers are described by Dr. Koran as a group of people "motivated by 'irresistible' impulses, characterized by spending that is excessive and inappropriate, has harmful consequences for the individual, and tends to be chronic and stereotyped." The study concluded that "results suggest that citalopram may be effective for compulsive shopping. Additional research is needed to examine the role of mood symptoms in the initiation, continuance and relief of this disorder. Acute and long-term, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials of citalopram and other SSRIs for the treatment of compulsive shopping are indicated." In a statement, the researchers added, "Citalopram produced marked improvements on both the Yale/Brown Obsessive-Compulsive Scale
[CTRL] AT NANOSCALE, THE LAWS OF HUMANS MAY NOT APPLY
AT NANOSCALE, THE LAWS OF HUMANS MAY NOT APPLYBy Michael BeckerSmall Times Correspondent July 30, 2001 -- As nanotechnology moves from the realm of science fiction to the real world of commercial application, legislation and regulation are going to have to play catch-up. Legal experts say the lag between technology and The respirocyte would be a spherical nanorobot,approximately 1 micron in size. Just a 5ccdose should do the work of all red blood cellsin the blood stream. But what laws would governits use? These bacterium-sized gadgets wouldlikely to force a debate over existing regulations. the law is a given. The Internet and Global Positioning System (GPS) technology have forced a rethink of areas such as copyright and the right to privacy. Biotechnology has led to a closer examination of patent law and what is patentable. Stem cell research is having a similar impact -- witness a recent bill that emerged from the judiciary committee of the U.S. House of Representatives in late July that seeks to outlaw not just the cloning of humans, but also the use of cloning technology to create stem cells to treat diseases. Nanotechnology will be no different. But the range and scope of laws and regulations could be much broader: everything from international trade law, to treaties banning chemical and biological weapons, to regulations governing medicine and the environment. A good example of a nanotechnology application that would likely to force a debate over existing regulations is the respirocyte. Theoretically, it would be a spherical nanorobot, approximately 1 micron in size -- about as big as a bacterium. Respirocytes would consist of a tiny, pressurized tank and pumps carrying oxygen and carbon dioxide in the blood stream. They would augment or even replace red blood cells -- just a 5cc dose should the work of all the red blood cells in the blood stream. While it may take 10 to 20 years to build and perfect respirocytes, the question is whether it would qualify as a medical device, as a drug or as something completely different. Robert Freitas, a research scientist at Zyvex Corp. in Richardson, Texas, who also holds a law degree, notes that other potential nanorobots designed to eat bacteria, repair individual cells and deliver precise drug doses to precise locations will force regulators to take a long, hard look at how to test, monitor and approve such technologies. "With greater potential for danger," he said, "comes greater need for regulation." Much of the existing body of law, however, will probably need only minor tinkering. "Whenever you see a new technology, there is always a temptation to say, 'We need all new laws to deal with it,'" noted Glenn Reynolds, a law professor at the University of Tennessee who has written about the legal implications of nanotechnology. This kind of reaction, he said, usually turns out to be wrong. "Old laws often work out surprisingly well," he said, adding that when legislators do try to craft new bodies of law to deal with new technologies, "the results are either pointless or disastrous." That is not to say that government should take a hands-off approach. T.S. Twibell, an associate with the Kansas City, Mo., law firm Kurlbaum Stoll Seaman Mustoe McCrummen, who has also written about nanotechnology's legal implications, says government involvement will help lawmakers and regulators. "Government needs to have a hand in, to know what people are developing and be able to react to it," Twibell said. But the biggest area of concern is likely to be copyright and patent law. While some may question whether a company can patent an atomic structure, most legal experts agree that there are enough precedents involving biotechnology and genetic material to cover nanotechnology. Rather, the problem will more likely be protecting the intellectual property from illegal copies and piracy. Reynolds offers a hypothetical situation in which "disassemblers" are created that can examine something atom by atom, keeping track of the object's overall structure and making perfect copies of it. In such a case, it would be nearly impossible to determine if a copy of something was obtained legally or not. Zyvex's Freitas, when asked how the law might seek to resolve this, laughed, "that's a good question. I think as we get closer to it, the answer will emerge." But, he added, "it won't be painless, there will be economic adjustments." Freitas, Reynolds and Twibell all agree that in this kind of situation, the real value will reside not in the physical object, but in its design. Consumers would download the design of an object and replicate it themselves, rather than go out and buy it. Patent issues will also emerge with self-replicating nanotechnologies, especially if those technologies are designed to adapt to new surroundings. "If evolution occurred in a,
[CTRL] Bush plans 'space bomber'
Bush plans 'space bomber' http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,529208,00.htmlSpecial report: George Bush's AmericaThe Bush files - Observer special Talk about it here Ed Vulliamy in New YorkSunday July 29, 2001The Observer The United States is exploring the development of a 'space-bomber' which could destroy targets on the other side of the world within 30 minutes. As part of a weapons modernisation strategy personally directed by Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the Pentagon is drawing up plans for a 'sub-orbital vehicle' launched like a spacecraft, which Rumsfeld describes as 'valuable for conducting rapid global strikes'. The craft - which would set the scene for a new generation of stratospheric warfare - would be able to drop precision bombs from a height of 60 miles, flying at 15 times the speed and 10 times the height of America's current bomber fleet. It is unclear whether it would be manned. Plans for the weapon appear to undermine claims that President George Bush's controversial Missile Defence Screen - dubbed 'Son of Star Wars' - is purely defensive. The new plane could be developed quickly by adapting shelved research for Ronald Reagan's 'Star Wars' together with plans for a reusable spacecraft called the X-33 Venture Star, under development by Nasa and Lockheed Martin. It would drop bombs from such a height that they would act as 'bunker busters', penetrating deep into underground silos without explosive warheads and causing massive pre-emptive damage on the ground within minutes of the start of a conflict - indicating a clear intention to take out enemy missiles before they have the capacity to launch. It would also be out of reach of conventional air defence systems. The bomber could return to base in the US within 90 minutes from any point on the globe. In 1999 it took US bombers in Kosovo 24 hours to return to base in Missouri. The development of the bomber - details of which have been obtained by the Los Angeles Times - has keen supporters, including the man tipped to be nominated by Rumsfeld as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force General Ralph Eberhardt, commander of Space Command. Pentagon spokesman Admiral Craig Quigley is also optimistic, saying 'the military couldn't get anything [to a war zone] faster than this. It could be useful in any number of scenarios'. But the plan also touches many raw nerves, most obviously among those who object to the militarisation of space, which Democrat Senate leader Tom Daschle calls 'the single dumbest thing I've heard from this administration'. The project's supporters deny that the craft marks a move to militarise space, saying that its targets would be on Earth and that it would not make a full orbit. Last week the Pentagon announced its intention to test a space-based laser weapon, capable of zapping incoming missiles, as early as 2005 at a cost of $110 million. The test would signal a return to the heart of Reagan's Strategic Defence Initiative - the so-called 'Star Wars' - of the early 1980s and constitute a clear and offensive violation of the 1972 Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty with Russia. And, The Observer has learnt, US embassies have been instructed to inform host governments that the administration intends to test not just land-based missile interceptors, as it did two weekends ago, but 'other technologies and basing modes' for such weapons. As with many such projects, such as the Stealth bomber, the new craft could bypass a Congressional veto by being included in the secret 'black budget' of undeclared defence spending. Dan Plesch, director of the British American Security Information Council, said the development revealed that America was engaged in military 'anarchism' and was seeking to dominate space militarily before China or Russia were able to do so. 'They are now engaged in a grossly militarised foreign policy which seems to be their only reaction to global politics,' he said. ---Regards,Peter E LukeMere Meaningless Diversions? Or what's really happening?Visit or Sign Up Today Find Out!Website:http://www.geocities.com/peatluke/Diversionz.htmlTo Get on the Bus:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Diversionz
[CTRL] Deadly Deception, Pretexts for War (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Released July 30, 2001 The Wisdom Fund, P. O. Box 2723, Arlington, VA 22202 Website: http://www.twf.org http://www.twf.org/News/Y2001/0730-Pretexts.html Press Contact: Enver Masud Deadly Deception, Pretexts for War U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff approved plans for 'launching a secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country' WASHINGTON, DC - Scott Ritter, former UN Special Commission inspector, claims that Richard Butler, former chief UN weapons inspector, deliberately planned UN inspections in 1998 to orchestrate a confrontation between Iraq and the UN so the United States could carry out its threats to bomb Iraq. Ritter makes the allegations in a documentary film, In Shifting Sands . . . the Truth About UNSCOM and the Disarming of Iraq, shown to journalists at the UN reported Ronni Berke (CNN, July 19). Ritter's revelation should come as no surprise. The alleged pretext for bombing Iraq, was just one more act of deadly deception, by the U.S. and its allies, designed to rally the public against the enemy. Some examples: The annual commemoration of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, invariably includes these words from the speech by President Franklin D. Roosevelt: Yesterday, December 7, 1941a date which will live in infamythe United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan. But, few Americans know, and they're seldom told, that, The U.S. believed that war with Japan was inevitable, and that 'the United States should provoke it at a time which suited U.S. interests.' Analysts recommended an eight point plan designed to provoke a Japanese attack, according to Robert Stinnett, writing in Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor. The plan included military provocations, and a recommendation to Completely embargo all trade with Japan, in collaboration with a similar embargo by the British Empire. The embargo was in place, and the U.S. had made several provocative military moves, at the time of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Britain and France had their plan for taking back the Suez Canal after it was nationalized by President Nasser of Egypt on July 26, 1956. France secretly enlisted the help of Israel, writes James Bamford in Body of Secrets: Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency from the Cold War Through the Dawn of a New Century. Mr.Bamford was Washington Investigative Producer for ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings, and has written investigative cover stories for the New York Times Magazine, the Washington Post Magazine, and the Los Angeles Times Magazine. The intrigue involved Israel launching a war against Egypt, writes Mr. Bamford. Then, once Egypt began defending itself, England and France would go in as 'peacekeepers.' As part of the 'peace,' the canal would be taken from Egypt and kept by Britain and France. Israel would capture the Sinai from Egypt. The plan was agreed to by Israeli prime minister David Ben-Gurion, defense minister Shimon Peres, and armed forces chief Moshe Dayan, and Britain's prime minister, Anthony Eden. Following the failed, Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba on April 17, 1961, by 1,300 members of a CIA-supported counter-revolutionary Cuban exile force, the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) drew up and approved plans for launching a secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country in order to trick the American public into supporting an ill-conceived war they intended to launch against Cuba. Mr. Bamford writes: Codenamed Operation Northwoods, the plan . . . called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer [Chairman JCS] and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war. Accidents, writes Mr. Bamford, were to be used to advance U.S. interests. Had the February 20, 1962 launch of John Glennthe first American to orbit the earth, later a U.S. presidential candidatenot been successful, the JCS were prepared to use John Glenn's possible death as a pretext for war. The flight was to carry the banner of America's virtues of truth, freedom, and democracy into orbit high over the planet. But Lemnitzer and his Chiefs had a different idea. They proposed to Lansdale [U.S. general in charge of Operation Mongoosecovert operations against Cuba] that, should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, 'the objective is to provide irrevocable proof that . . . the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic].' This would be accomplished, Lemnitzer continued, 'by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the
[CTRL] Gates plays games with rivals, Java
Gates Plays Games With Rivals, Java - EWeek ---http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2799103,00.html Gates plays games with rivals, JavaBy Spencer F. Katt July 27, 2001 1:54 PM ET Ever wonder what Bill Gates does in his spare time? The Kitty found out it might all be fun and games. At a recent Microsoft Global Sales conference in Miami, Mr. Bill displayed an old computer game that he wrote in BASIC several years ago. In the game, a driver tries to avoid oncoming donkeys. Gates showed the crowd that he's spiced up his old creation with a little XML here and a little .Net there. With the addition of the XML and some development tools from Visual Studio .Net, Gates showed that his old BASIC game was now a dynamic 3-D game where the driver travels over varied terrain and the donkeys can be turned into different characters. So, whom did he turn the donkeys into, you may ask? None other than Larry Ellison and Scott McNealy. "At least he didn't actually make asses out of them," quipped the Kitty. His Hirsuteness chuckled at Symantec's attempt to capitalize on all the security worries around Microsoft's Windows products. Launching a clever PR campaign last week, the anti-virus software maker sent out an interesting package with a CD containing Build 31c of Symantec's Norton Anti Virus 2002, which includes "protection" for Windows XP. A note accompanying the package stated, "You are without protection due to the fact that it [Windows XP] is still a beta product. We at Norton feel it is important to protect your system during your evaluation of Windows XP." "Me-ouch," mused the Mouser. Future XP users who intend to download Java from Microsoft's Web site may want a security blanket of their own, according to a friend of the Furry One. Although it's common knowledge that Microsoft is dropping support for Java in XP, the tattler claims what hasn't been widely reported is that Microsoft has supposedly raised the security classification of Java from medium risk to high risk. That could mean that Java applets may not run in the Windows XP version of Internet Explorer if the security settings are set too high. The tipster added that he's found that Java doesn't run at all under Outlook or Outlook Express if they are running the default settings. According to the tattler, users might find that it may not be just a matter of downloading the Java engineusers might actually have to reconfigure their machines and drop their security settings to run Java. It seems Microsoft may be considering closing the San Francisco office of bCentral, its small-business portal operation. A Katt crony claims that a spokeswoman for Redmond confirmed last week that it was indeed evaluating its resources at the bCentral office in San Francisco, which contains some 40 people, but said no final decision on a closing had been made. "The San Francisco office is the only office being evaluated as far as I'm aware," said the spokeswoman. While surfing the Web, El Gato spotted a site called makeashorterlink.com. This Web site provides a simple service--when you find a page on the Web whose address is too long to paste into an e-mail or other document, you can use this free service to generate a shorter, simpler address. The site claims that you can pass that shorter URL on to colleagues by e-mail confident that most e-mail clients will recognize it as a URL and turn it into a clickable item. Regards,Peter E LukeMere Meaningless Diversions? Or what's really happening?Visit or Sign Up Today Find Out!Website:http://www.geocities.com/peatluke/Diversionz.htmlTo Get on the Bus:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Diversionz
[CTRL] Couple sues over flaming Pop-Tart
Couple sues over flaming Pop-Tart http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/07/28/life.poptart.reut/ PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (Reuters) -- The popular breakfast pastry Pop-Tarts has become a burning legal issue in New Jersey. The Philadelphia Inquirer reported Saturday that a New Jersey couple is suing the Kellogg Co. for $100,000 in damages caused to their home when an unattended Pop-Tart allegedly burst into flames inside their toaster. Brenda Hurff of Washington Township put a cherry Pop-Tart in the toaster and left the house to drive her children to preschool, the newspaper said. When she returned 10 to 20 minutes later, smoke was pouring from the home and firefighters were already on the scene. "I never thought a Pop-Tart could turn into a blowtorch," Hurff's attorney, Mauro Casci, told the newspaper. "Did it pop? Did it not pop? Who knows?" The local fire company listed the cause of the blaze as "unattended food." A Kellogg spokesman declined to comment on the lawsuit but told the Inquirer that the cereal maker's products were safe and do not cause fires. Pop-Tarts, which are filled with fruit preserves, carry a warning on the box advising customers not to leave the toaster unattended due to a possible risk of fire. The lawsuit, filed this week in Gloucester County Superior Court by Hurff and her husband, also named toaster-maker Black Decker Corp. as a defendant. The newspaper said the appliance maker had no comment on the suit. In 1995, Kellogg paid $2,400 to a Springfield, Ohio, man who said that a fire started from a Pop-Tart had damaged his home, the Inquirer said. The man's lawyer had considered calling as a witness humorist Dave Barry, who had written two years earlier that he caused a pair of strawberry Pop-Tarts to ignite by putting them into a toaster and holding the lever down for six minutes, the newspaper said. Copyright 2001 Reuters. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. ---Regards,Peter E LukeMere Meaningless Diversions? Or what's really happening?Visit or Sign Up Today Find Out!Website:http://www.geocities.com/peatluke/Diversionz.htmlTo Get on the Bus:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Diversionz
[CTRL] The Truth Behind Teen Culture
-Caveat Lector- The Truth Behind Teen Culture http://www.soundvision.com/teens/pbs.shtml For more background on this topic see: http://www.soundvision.com/teens/ Do you think your teenagers mood swings, anger and rebelliousness are awful enough representations of American teen culture. Think again. These are only the tip of the iceberg. A recent Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) documentary has exposed the reality about whats going on in many teenagers lives. This TV documentary is an eye into teen culture that you wont see on the whitewashed teen sitcoms usually seen on Friday nights. Sex, group sex, drug and alcohol abuse, violence and gangs were once thought to be a reality found only in the lower class, inner city neighborhoods of America. But The Lost Children of Rockdale County, which aired October 19, 1999 on the program Frontline, has shattered that myth. The 90-minute documentary starts off describing an outbreak of the sexually transmitted disease syphilis amongst a number teenagers in the countys only town, Conyer in 1996. Seventeen teenagers tested positive for the disease, about 200 others were treated for exposure and about 50 reported engaging in group sex and other extreme sexual behavior. Upon investigation, parents, public health officials and other administrators discover the teenagers, who are from middle to upper-class, church-going families, have been involved in these activities. Producers Rachel Dretzin Goodman and Barak Goodman interview, among others, teens, parents, school counselors, a county commissioner and experts about the outbreak, and on a deeper level, why teens from seemingly good backgrounds, would be involved in such activities. What becomes evident in interviews with the teenagers is the utter lack of direction and structure in their lives, which some admit they crave. Grappling with the fact that their parents are both at work during the day tending careers and trying to provide the good life materially for their kids, these teenagers are given little attention. That also explains why most of the parties permeated with sex, drugs and alcohol took place between 3 p.m. and 7p.m. and after midnight. The sexual activity took place at a number of places. And probably the two most common places for sexual activity to take place were either at the home of one of the adolescents. A lot of the adolescents had parents who worked, were at home alone, had parents who put in 40, 60, 80 hour work weeks..., noted Claire Sterk, who was a member of the team which investigated the syphilis outbreak. Sometimes a parent would drop off their own children at a home where one of these sex parties was going to take place but the notion was this looks like a nice house, these must be nice people so nothing is going to happen that I would not approve of, she added. Parents, on the other hand, talk about the loss of control and discipline with their kids. Whether its the fear of their violent teenagers, or their power as parents taken away by authority figures like school counselors and the police, who encourage permissive attitudes and lax ways of dealing with rebellious teens. A breakdown in communication (see www.soundvision.com) between parents and teenagers also explain why these young adults seek fun and acceptance with their surrogate family of friends, who often pressure them into these activities. While most reviewers of the documentary praised it for its intelligent and insightful treatment of the topic, others felt it was too weak on certain fronts. One reviewer for the Atlanta Constitution noted the documentary presented teens at two extremes: sex-mad or devoutly Christian virgins, while a reviewer at the Boston Globe felt its treatment of the subject matter was too superficial. But no matter what the treatment or portrayal, the fact is that this is a facet of teen culture in America today. Communities and parents may want to bury their heads in the sand (as they did in Rockdale when a town hall meeting was called to discuss the syphilis outbreak) and run away from it, but this is what their kids face, especially if they attend public schools. They can reject it, or accept it, but the power of peer pressure is unmistakably evident . While some may be tempted to say this represents only a small group of teens in Rockdale County, some of those involved in the case think otherwise. This is a cross-section of adolescence in the United States in the 1990s, says Sterke. That even although we might be really shocked to hear some of the things that took place in many ways the dynamics that surrounded all this are common for adolescence all over. To read more about this documentary visit PBS: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/georgia/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These
[CTRL] Holy Cow!
-Caveat Lector- Holy Cow: Beef in Indian Dietary Traditions By D N Jha Published by Matrix - http://www.tehelka.com (27th July) The Elusive 'Holy Cow' In an explosive essay, D N Jha, Professor of History at the University of Delhi, argues that the image of the cow projected by Indian textual traditions, especially the Brahmanical-Dharmasastric works, over the centuries is polymorphic. Its story through the millennia is riddled with inconsistencies and has not always been in conformity with dietary practices current in our society. As Jha points out, Even today 72 communities in Kerala-not all of them untouchable perhaps-prefer beef to the expensive mutton and the Hindutva forces are persuading them to go easy on it. This essay forms the last chapter of DN Jha's forthcoming book Holy Cow: Beef in Indian Dietary Traditions. After being rejected by several publishing houses because of its 'controversial' content, the book will finally be published by Matrix Books (on August 8th), a new small press committed to the publication of brave and offbeat academic research. Several points emerge from our limited survey of the textual evidence, mostly drawn from Brahmanical sources from the Rgveda onwards. In the first place, it is clear that the early Aryans, who migrated to India from outside, brought along with them certain cultural elements. After their migration into the Indian subcontinent pastoralism, nomadism and animal sacrifice remained characteristic features of their life for several centuries until sedentary field agriculture became the mainstay of their livelihood. Animal sacrifices were very common, the most important of them being the famous asvamedha and rajasuya. These and several other major sacrifices involved the killing of animals including cattle, which constituted the chief form of the wealth of the early Aryans. Not surprisingly, they prayed for cattle and sacrificed them to propitiate their gods. The Vedic gods had no marked dietary preferences. Milk, butter, barley, oxen, goats and sheep were their usual food, though some of them seem to have had their special preferences. Indra had a special liking for bulls. Agni was not a tippler like Indra, but was fond of the flesh of horses, bulls and cows. The toothless Pusan, the guardian of the roads, ate mush as a Hobson's choice. Soma was the name of an intoxicant but, equally important, of a god, and killing animals (including cattle) for him was basic to most of the Rgvedic yajnas. The Maruts and the Asvins were also offered cows. The Vedas mention about 250 animals out of which at least 50 were deemed fit for sacrifice, by implication for divine as well as human consumption. The Taittiriya Brahmana categorically tells us: 'Verily the cow is food' (atho annam via gauh) and Yajnavalkya's insistence on eating the tender (amsala) flesh of the cow is well known. Although there is reason to believe that a brahmana's cow may not have been killed, that is no index of its inherent sanctity in the Vedic period or even later. The subsequent Brahmanical texts (e.g. Grhyasutras and Dharmasutras) provide ample evidence of the eating of flesh including beef. Domestic rites and rituals associated with agricultural and other activities involved the killing of cattle. The ceremonial welcome of guests (sometimes known as arghya but generally as madhupurka) consisted not only of a meal of a mixture of curds and honey but also of the flesh of a cow or bull. Early lawgivers go to the extent of making meat mandatory in the madhuparka-an injunction more or less dittoed by several later legal texts. The sacred thread ceremony for its part was not all that sacred; for it was necessary for a snataka to wear an upper garment of cowhide. The slaughter of animals formed an important component of the cult of the dead in the Vedic texts. The thick fat of the cow was used to cover the corpse and a bull was burnt along with it to enable the departed to ride in the nether world. Funerary rites include the feeding of brahmanas after the prescribed period and quite often the flesh of the cow or ox was offered to the dead. The textual prescriptions indicate the degree of satisfaction obtained by the ancestors' souls according to the animals offered-cow meat could keep them content for at least a year! The Vedic and the post-Vedic texts often mention the killing of animals including the kine in the ritual context. There was, therefore, a relationship between the sacrifice and sustenance. But this need not necessarily mean that different types of meat were eaten only if offered in sacrifice. Archaeological evidence, in fact, suggests non-ritual killing of cattle. This is indicative of the fact that beef and other animal flesh formed part of the dietary culture of people and that edible flesh was not always ritually consecrated. The idea of ahimsa seems to have made its first appearance in the Upanisadic thought and literature. There is no doubt that
[CTRL] Fwd: Palestinians Imprisoned By Arafat - both literally and figuratively
___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\©http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! * * * * * * * IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEWSFLASH: NABLUS, West Bank (Reuters - 31 July, 7:11am ET) - At least five Palestinians were killed on Tuesday in an explosion in an office of the militant Muslim group Hamas in the West Bank city of Nablus, witnesses and ambulance workers said. The witnesses said missiles fired from an Israeli aircraft hit the office. Ambulance workers at the scene said they saw at least five bodies. IMPRISONED, TRAPPED, AND UNPREPARED BY ARAFAT MID-EAST REALITIES © - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 7/31: Arafat has once again trapped and imprisoned his own people -- keep reading. Wherever he has set up his headquarters corruption, repression, nepotism, and scandal have followed. And always these realities of what we have termed the Arafat regime are exploited to further fracture and weaken the Palestinian people -- a people whose basic claim to independence, return, and reparations should at this point be unassailable. It was that way leading up to the Jordanian civil war in 1971, it was that way in Lebanon with Arafat fleeing leaving his people defenseless just before the horrible Sabra and Shatila Refugee Camp massacres in 1982, it was that way in distant exile in Tunisia, and it is that way in Gaza and the West Bank under the Arafat-created Palestinian Authority. This first article from Reuters today shows how helpless and defenseless individual Palestinians are under the agreements Arafat has signed. The next two articles, the first from The Independent (London) and the second from Agence France-Presse (Paris), help explain the terrible circumstances in which Arafat has essentially trapped his own people who are still extraordinarily unprepared both on the ground and internationally to deal with what the Israelis are dishing out. PALESTINIANS SAY ISRAELI SOLDIERS BEAT THEM By Michael Carney JERUSALEM, July 31 (Reuters) - The Israeli soldiers whistled, so Khaled Rawashdeh pulled his yellow Palestinian taxi to the side of the Samou'-Hebron road in the West Bank. But instead of engaging in what Palestinians call the usual routine of humiliation and harassment, a dozen soldiers beat Rawashdeh and eight other Palestinians for two hours, the taxi driver said, according to a complaint he filed with a human rights group. We were nine men standing in a line...and the soldiers continued beating us as if they were playing a game, Rawashdeh told Israel's B'Tselem organisation, which has investigated numerous reports of brutality since a Palestinian uprising erupted in September. I saw one of the soldiers run from his position, six meters (20 feet) away, and kick one of the men in the stomach, Rawashdeh said two days after being released from hospital. They also threw stones at us and beat us with their hands and their gun butts. The soldiers also destroyed two taxis and stole about $300, according to four complaints filed with B'Tselem. The Israeli army confirmed that its soldiers behaved in a violent manner and were being investigated by military police, but said it had no information about the alleged theft. The army mentioned only one taxi in its response. In the next 24 hours the investigation will be concluded, and at that time any soldier found to be connected with this event will be tried and severely punished, an army spokeswoman told Reuters on Monday. Tensions between Israelis and Palestinians have worsened dramatically since a Palestinian uprising against occupation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip began 10 months ago. The army is also investigating reports of regular harassment and brutality at a checkpoint in the West Bank city of Hebron, a review announced on the same day the soldiers stopped Rawashdeh and another taxi driver, Muhammad a-Salamin. The soldiers, lounging alongside their jeep, whistled and motioned for the taxis to pull over near the Palestinian village of Karma. When I stopped near the jeep, one of the soldiers came towards us and took my ID card and those of the passengers and told me to get out of the car, said Rawashdeh, 36. Another soldier got into the taxi and opened the glove compartment. He threw the documents, the cassettes and the money that were in the glove compartment on the floor of the taxi. The soldiers then
[CTRL] Informed Electorate
-Caveat Lector- Many Americans don't accept evolution as proven scientific theory. A March Gallup poll found that when given a choice, 48% of the public said they believe more in the theory of creationism, while just 28% said they believed more in the theory of evolution. Interestingly, 81% of Americans said they considered themselves to be at least somewhat informed on the issue. Additionally, when asked directly about Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, just 35% said that it was a scientific theory that has been well-supported by evidence. Thirty-nine percent say that it has not been well-supported by evidence. The rest say they don't know enough to say. Now I know why so many people still believe in socialism. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jimmy Hoffa Is Alive and Well
-Caveat Lector- The son, that is - and like father, like son.it is obvious by now that Jimmy Hoffa . did not accept Clinton's invitation to join this WTO.note Clinton seems oh so at home, in Harlemn - but wait until those Black Panther's really oranize. Seems the creators have lost touch, with their creators. The Teamsters Union to date is Not For Sale. Jimmy Hoffa remained loyal to the Union that pays his salary and paid the salary of his father - this man is not for sale. Saba July 30, 2001 Teamsters May Stall Bush Goals for Mexican Trucks and Trade By PHILIP SHENON The Associated Press Trucks lined up on Wednesday to enter Route 905 in San Diego after crossing to the United States from Mexico. The Teamsters union is lobbying to keep Mexican trucks off American roads, citing safety issues. Join a Discussion on the Bush Presidency WASHINGTON, July 29 A lobbying campaign led by the Teamsters union to keep Mexican trucks off American roads is on the verge of handing organized labor a major legislative victory over President Bush, endangering one of his most cherished foreign policy goals and reminding the White House of the political muscle still flexed here by labor unions. If the Teamsters prevail, it could undermine the president's hopes of improved trade and diplomatic ties with Mexico, which has demanded the opening of the border to Mexican trucks under terms of the eight-year- old North American Free Trade Agreement. Mr. Bush had hoped to comply by next year. Nafta and its liberalized trade rules have long been a target of the Teamsters, which has 1.4 million members, many of them truck drivers. The union's critics offer grudging admiration for its tactics in the legislative battle. They say the key to the union's success in blocking Mr. Bush's open-border plan has been its ability to turn the debate from one of protectionism the desire of American truckers to prevent low-paid, nonunionized Mexican drivers from taking their jobs to one of public safety. The House voted last month to retain a near-total ban on Mexican trucks on American roads outside a 20-mile-deep border area. The Senate is nearing a vote on a measure that, while less restrictive, would still impose strict security and insurance standards on Mexican trucks and would probably delay a full border opening for years. Mr. Bush, who has befriended President Vicente Fox of Mexico and has made clear that he wants closer ties with Mexico to be a central legacy of his presidency, is threatening to veto this year's $60 billion transportation spending bill if it contains the House or Senate restrictions. But the Teamsters and their allies among them a large, bipartisan group of members of Congress, including many Republicans who usually side with the White House appear convinced that a veto could be overturned. Their argument is bolstered by government studies showing that Mexican trucks entering the United States fail safety inspections at a higher rate than American trucks; about 37 percent of the Mexican trucks inspected at the border last year were removed from the road because of safety violations, versus about 24 percent for American trucks inspected nationwide. The administration has said it would beef up inspections and put a program in place to scrutinize the safety programs of Mexican trucking companies that would be given permits to operate in the United States. But the Transportation Department's inspector general, in testimony this month, questioned whether those plans were adequate to ensure safety. In a procedural vote last week, 70 senators 19 Republicans, all 50 Democrats and one independent suggested that they would support the measure to restrict Mexican trucks. We have lobbied tremendously on this, said James P. Hoffa, the president of the Teamsters. Mr. Hoffa has appeared on Capitol Hill repeatedly in recent weeks to press members of Congress face to face to block Mr. Bush's plan. The issue of unsafe trucks coming up from Mexico is one that all of the American driving public should care about, Mr. Hoffa said in an interview. You could have trucks coming across the border with no brakes, with no insurance, with untrained drivers, carrying hazardous waste. It's untold the number of catastrophes that could happen. The union's lobbying campaign has a been a traditional one, carried out in coordination with consumer- protection and environmental groups that also say they oppose the opening of the border on safety grounds. I don't think this is happening just because of the Teamsters, said Joan Claybrook of Common Cause. But I do think the Teamsters have done excellent work. The Teamsters say they have not needed outside lobbyists or pollsters to make their case, and their advertising budget on the issue has been minuscule by recent Washington standards: $50,000 for radio commercials featuring the sound of truck wheels skidding on a freeway before smashing into another vehicle.
[CTRL] Fw: CHANDRA'S DANGEROUS KNOWLEDGE
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- MEDIUM RARE By Jim Rarey July 31, 2001 CHANDRA'S DANGEROUS KNOWLEDGE This writer has been challenged by several subscribers to provide more information on which the scenario was based in the Medium Rare article of July 26th (Condit's Rock and a Hard Place). In that article it was postulated that Chandra Levi may have come into possession of information that made her dangerous to powerful people, not necessarily Gary Condit, that required her "elimination." Consequently, please bear with us while we "build the case." It appears obvious that Chandra is (was) a bright inquisitive girl and young woman with a penchant for intrigue. In high school Chandra joined the Explorer Scouts police program where she sometimes worked undercover to catch retailers selling alcohol to minors. She was also a writer for the school newspaper. After her 1995 high school graduation she spent four years at San Francisco State University majoring in journalism with a minor in criminal justice. She entered the graduate program at the University of Southern California (USC) working toward, and earning, a masters degree in public administration. The USC program required a number of internships in lieu of a dissertation, which Chandra fulfilled with a vengeance. An in depth article by Washington Times writer Frank J. Murray, entitled "Who is Chandra Levy," outlines an extensive and curious convergence with the Condit family. >From August 1998 to August 1999 she was an editorial assistant in the >sports department of the Modesto Bee newspaper, a part of a newspaper >chain including the Sacramento Bee which is a left leaning partisan >supporter of California Democrats. Overlapping that internship was a stint at the Modesto police department where she worked as a clerk. Condit's older brother is a Modesto police officer who was demoted in rank stemming from unauthorized purchases and disposal of firearms from the police inventory of confiscated weapons. During the period she was with the police department, Chandra, then 22, had a year-long affair with another police officer Mark Steele, ten years her senior. Steele, in an interview with the Los Angeles Times, said Chandra took it hard when he broke off the relationship and continued to pursue him. Steel is no longer with the department. For three months in 1999, ending in December, Chandra interned in the lobbying office of Republican Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan. >From February to June 2000 she interned on the legal staff of Democrat >Governor Gray Davis. Two of Gary Condit's offspring were also on Davis' >staff at that time. Son Chad was the governor's liaison to the Central >Valley at a starting salary of $95,234 a year. Daughter Cadee made $30,000 >a year as a Davis press aide. It is not known if Chandra knew or even met >Condit's daughter and son. In October of 2000 Chandra started her intern job at the Bureau of Prisons in Washington, D.C. According to Murray's article, "Her job at the Bureau of Prisons information office required her to do Internet searches and scan newspapers to prepare daily news summaries, answer telephone calls and mail, and help with special projects. In one, she coordinated media attendance at planning sessions for the execution of Oklahoma bomber Timothy McVeigh." (Emphasis added.) According to a Washington Post story, Chandra's duties also included researching Bureau of Prison records. In an earlier article, this writer had speculated that Chandra, during her research, may have come across evidence supporting allegations made on the Internet that Dr. Louis Jolyn (Jolly) West had visited McVeigh in prison a number of times. One such article asserted the number of visits was seventeen. Dr. West (since conveniently deceased) was deeply involved in mind control experiments with ties to the CIA. At one time West had tried to set up a department at UCLA, where he was a professor, involving melting of brain synapses to control the subjects' minds. These rumors had fostered the belief in some that McVeigh was indeed a "Manchurian Candidate" programmed for the Oklahoma bombing. McVeigh at one time claimed that a microchip had been implanted in him while in the service. It is entirely reasonable to suggest that Chandra may have uncovered such evidence during her search of bureau records. If she let the wrong person, including Condit, know she had that evidence, she may have signed her own death warrant. In the writer's last article, it was also suggested that the intelligence community might be trying to divert attention from Condit to relieve pressure on him from some damaging disclosure he could make. Supporting that suspicion is one fact of which knowledgable readers will immediately grasp the significance. The FBI's lead investigator on the Levy case is one Bradley J. Garrett. According to author and investigative reporter Todd Fahey, who specializes in intelligence
Re: [CTRL] Palestine ( sic )on the rack.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/31/2001 7:48:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sharon is listening to the hard-line Zionist views being expressed within his cabinet and particularly in the USA, and appears to be set on a course to restore Israels once fearsome reputation for military toughness. This will almost certainly involve major military operations against neighbouring Arab countries, and Sharon may also consider this a necessary pre-emptive strike in view of the contentious view expressed recently that Israel may not be able to survive an all out Arab attack without resorting to nuclear weapons! Well at last. I was wondering when the peace loving Israeli would get around to this. If they can use nuclear weapons, they can assure that no Palestinians survive. It might get a few Israeli as well, but that's okay when one considers the benefits of that slight sacrifice. This beats smallpox infected blankets all to heck. Does anyone know how to say, 'the only good Palestinian is a dead Palestinian' in Hebrew? Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Twelve Worst Presidents
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/30/2001 10:49:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The author is an economics professor. Okay. That explains it. But wouldn't you have thought he'd have liked the economy during Clinton's presidency. I never knew an econ man who was so concerned with the law and the slaughter of the innocent. Amazing. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: CHANDRA'S DANGEROUS KNOWLEDGE
-Caveat Lector- This is interesting item; however, a flaw maybe done in haste, re Mahoney being an intern . Mahoney was not an intern but a manager of the Starbucks where she and her fellow employees were murdered - one victim shot 5 times which I thought unusual. There was an informer to these crimes that was later murdered as I recall; however the story going around was that Mahoney and Hilliary Rodham Clinton were once caught in an affair, a story planted by a police officer or security guard as I recall. One thing I question - who started this stuff about Chandra being such a loose lady and involved in whips and things like this? Obvious attempt to smear her reputation - while at same time attempting to make Condit look like a victim? Killer of Mahoney was alleged to be a crack head but these are the types sometimes hired, to kill the innocents - and if they are caught, well just another robbery - like say the shooting of John Stennis during the Wilbur Mills and Wayne Hayes big star studded show for TV.Fannie Fox, a stripper (hey Larry Flynt go into the business forming many stripper joints, for he was a front man for organized crime) - but Fannie had Wilbur Mills masonic ring - but she was not a princess playing a prostitute, she was a prostitute playing the princess with a drunken man, for Mills had problems Many things going on in this country now - always wondered about the death of John Ashbrook - found dead sitting on a toilet? Big funeral and we all watched his casket lowered into the ground Danny Inouye was there, among other constiuency..but then, it came out John Ashcroft was NOT in the casket - his body lay in a basement of a funeral home, where he once used this reserve for printing anti democrat literature, etc. Regardless, his brother had been murdered and his connections to organized crime were something else. Most people in Johnstown did not like this new Mrs. Ashcroft, which some reported to be a cheap floosie - So the legend grew but always this long arm of organized crimewe have Jimbo Trafficant maybe going to prison and oh boy his old friend J J Cafaro might go with him and that guy (is jewish mob no doubt) that guy gave money to Democats and to Reublicans for he might want a pardon someday? Regardless they go to trial in February.and JJ Cararo just gave not too long ago money to KLINGLE PARK SCHOOL so he knows the lay of the land and lots of construction going on there - Chandra looking over Klingle Park area in her computer before she died? How did all these bums get into our government in high posts - well, it took big bucks that is for sure. Starbucks that night had $10,000 approcimately in sales receipts; they were not touched, but the murders were done in such a manner that it was almost as though it were a revenge crime. Think a lot more involved with little Chandra here for she wanted to work for CIA or FBI not for murder inc. This group of killers seemed to target places like massage parlours - and I image these places normally run by organized crime (front men actual run for them) and bars where guys like Larry Flynt at one time to get a license for he had not yet a criminal recordbut all these links seem to somehow return to sexm drugs murder - and involved and intertwined with our US Congress and may a few Senators? So worse thing said about this young Mahoney girl was that she was with Hilliary insinuating they were lesbians, etc. Do not believe Chandra Levy was as Condit's office tried to make her out to be, anybody's one night standand I hope the parents sue the hell out of him the police, the one who put out the garbage - so maybe Dan Rather showed some good sense by not printing the garbage. Just the facts, and at this point do we have any facts at all? Well seems massaage parlours, and such were targets of the gang into which the kiler of Mary Mahoney was initiated; however, the Hells Angels have a somewhat similar gang - drugs, guns for hire, etc? This small item I wonder how this fits in for someone wanted to silence the voice of an informer who assisted police in the Mary Mahoney murder.do not thing these man are CIA connected - these men were like say, a Gary Condit riding with known hoodlums who may hold him in awe because, golly gee, he is a congressman, and holy crap he has influenceHells Angels involved in heavy drug trafficking between USA and Canada Saba One does not send evidence to a prison file room - Chandra was a little more than a clerk working in this office..if she wanted evidence for something, you get next to the Judge Saturday December 6 4:14 PM EST Starbucks murder informant killed WASHINGTON, Dec. 6 [1997] (UPI) -- Three men were arrested Friday for allegedly killing an informant who was helping police solve the July slaying of three employees at a Georgetown Starbucks coffee shop. Police describe the informant (Saturday) as a cocaine user, and say he was
[CTRL] (Fwd) [PCL] Socialist Fire, Socialist Death
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: "PoliticalChatList" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "JILL" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:08:24 -0400 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PCL] Socialist Fire, Socialist Death [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=740 Socialist Fire; Socialist Death by Walter Block [Posted July 30, 2001] The headline in the newspaper was horrendous: "Wildfire kills 4 firefighters in N. Cascades." Pictured was Pete Soderquist, the fire management officer in charge on the Cascade Mountains in central Washington state, who explained that the deaths occurred "when what had been a five-acre fire exploded into a wall of flame that trapped the crew." Also featured in photographs were the four firefiighters who perished: 30-year-old Tom Craven, 18-year-old Karen Fitzpatrick, 21-year-old Devin Weaver, and 19-year-old Jessica Johnson, all who lived in either Ellensburg or Yakima, Washington. Any time there is a death of a human being, it is a tragedy (the reaction of the overpopulationists to the contrary notwithstanding). When death occurs for any reason other than old age, it is even worse. When death is not instantaneous and relatively painless, this is worse yet. When the victims are four people in the prime of their lives, the degree of catastrophe rises even more, in view of the now never-to-be-realized potential these four youngsters might have attained had they lived. So far, these comments are pretty conventional. Very few would demur. But there are two controversial points to be made about this tragedy, both of which may teach important lessons. First, this calamity occurred on public property, not private. The flames that consumed these four people were in the Okanogan and Wenatchee National Forests and are believed to have been set near Thirty Mile Campground, another example of socialized land ownership. Now, I am not saying that deaths never occur on private property, nor am I maintaining that these particular occurrences necessarily would have been avoided had these lands been under private control. The two are related, however. When a forest fire consumes private timber, there are individuals who feel it in their bank accounts; this is not the case with socialized land holdings. This means that profit-making individuals have greater incentivesby how much is an empirical matterto take greater precautions regarding their property than their public counterparts do. If we have learned anything from the fall of the Soviet economic systemand this is a highly debatable pointit is that things work better under private ownership. These four young people will have not died totally in vain if we use their deaths as a rallying cry for privatization of the forests. Perhaps if we succeed in this effort, other lives will be saved. Second, there were two females amongst the death toll in this fire. I see their smiling faces shining out at me from the newspaper coverage of this event. Both young ladies were very pretty. There was a time in our past when no such thing could have occurred: when firefightingalong with other such dangerous activities as mining, policing, soldiering, lumberjacking, deep-sea fishing, etc.were the total province of men. Women and children died in calamities, to be sure, but only if they were caught up in them as victims. Nowadays, with our modern dispensations, we place females in the front lines. This is no less than an abomination. Females are far more precious than males. It is not for nothing that farmers keep a few bulls and hundreds of cows. It is due to patriarchy that we owe our very existence as a species. Imagine if our cavemen ancestors had sent their women out to hunt and face the lions and tigers when they came a-calling, instead of throwing themselves at these enemies and sacrificing themselves so that mankind could persist. After World War II, the adult male populations of Germany, Russia, and other countries that suffered the most from the fighting were virtually wiped out. Yet the next generation, thanks to the relatively few men who survived, was able to come into being as if those losses had never occurred. Imagine if this war had been fought primarily by the fairer sex; there would have been virtually no next generation. It cannot be denied that, biologically speaking, men are, in effect, expendable drones. So let us use the unfortunate deaths of these two young girls to resolve to turn back the clock to an earlier day when women were treated the way they should be treated. Let us return from "firefighters" to "firemen." Let us no longer blithely acquiesce in the senseless slaughter of precious females. Let us, instead, place them back up on that "pedestal" from which the so-called feminist movement has thrown them. Now, of course, in a free society,
Re: [CTRL] Palestine ( sic )on the rack.
-Caveat Lector- Israelis have little neutron back pack bombs, but then so does Sadaam Hussein who rides big white horse too... Why are the women uniting - christian, jew, and moslem women, saying they want to be friends and will not make their sisters, their enemies Only outside in Holy Land the Zionists who now are keeping certain places open on Saturdays and are as such the Zionists - for these are the jews who say they are jews, and maybe like Henry Kissinger, are not jews - but the real blue eyed devils to which Malcolm X referred?' Maybe true secrets lay in color of eyes? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] In 1947-48, Palestinians became victims
-Caveat Lector- In 1947-48, Palestinians became victims by Charley Reese July 26, 2001 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/templates/misc/printstory.jsp?slug=orl%2Dopd%2Dreese072601 Let's play let's pretend. Pretend you live in Miami-Dade County, Fla., and you evacuate the area because a bad storm is bearing down on it. After the storm passes, you drive back but are met by military roadblocks. You can't come back, you're told. What do you mean I can't come back? I have a home and business there, you say. Not anymore, the soldier says. All of your property and possessions have been declared abandoned property and now will be used by us. So turn around. You've got 49 other states you can live in, but you're never going to the home you abandoned. Now, let's pretend that after NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia, the Yugoslavian government said it was willing to negotiate a cease-fire, but the Albanian refugees could not return to Kosovo. Do you think the United States would have agreed to that? I don't think so. I think the United States would have said to Yugoslavia the right of refugees to return to their homes is non-negotiable and, if you try to stop them, you'll have to get through us first. Well, this is exactly what happened to 700,000 Palestinians in 1947-48. By what one journalist called a psychological warfare campaign punctuated with some well-timed massacres, the Israelis drove these people out of their homes and villages with nothing much but the clothes on their backs. Then, at a peace conference, the Israelis said first off that no refugees would be allowed to return nor would they be compensated for any property lost. That was Israel's original sin. It was also our original sin because the United States government did nothing and it should have insisted on the refugees' return. Zionists, however, were not acting in an arbitrary manner. The Zionist ideology, on which the current state of Israel is based, demands a Jewish state defined as a state with a Jewish majority, a Jewish government and Jewish laws. Small, non-Jewish minorities can be tolerated, though in practice in Israel they have been treated like second-class people. But a plural state is out of the question. The problem the Zionists faced in 1947-48 was this: Despite their best efforts, they had not succeeded in persuading a sufficient number of Jews to emigrate to Palestine. Consequently, even in the territory allotted by the partition of Palestine to the Jews, there were so many Palestinian Arabs that the early Zionists knew they should soon equal or exceed the Jews in number. In 1919, there were 57,000 Jews and 533,000 Arabs in Palestine. The Jews owned about 2 percent of the land. In 1946, the imbalance remained. There were 608,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs. In 1946, Jews owned only 7 percent of Palestine. An Arab majority was unacceptable to Zionist ideology, so they practiced ethnic cleansing. So, for the same reason they drove them out in the first place, they could not let them back in. The Arab governments said if the refugees could not return, then they would not sign a peace treaty. This original sin -- the disposition of 700,000 Palestinians -- bred the conflict which rages to this day and will continue to rage until the Palestinians get justice or everybody on both sides are dead. I know that it's difficult. The Israelis have done a superb job of creating a racist stereotype of Palestinians in the minds of most Americans. But try, for a moment, to put yourself in their shoes back in 1947-48. You had a family, a farm or a business or shop. You had friends and relatives in a village where your ancestors had lived for centuries. Then, in the blink of an eye, you are torn from your roots and cast into a foreign country with no possessions, no money and no state you can call your own. These people and their descendants still live in those camps, at least those the Israelis haven't killed during their periodic bombing and shelling. These are the people Bill Clinton and Ehud Barak told Yasser Arafat that he must agree can never return or be compensated for their losses. That alone would have prevented Arafat from signing the agreement. It is this expulsion, not the establishment of the state of Israel, that Palestinians mean when they speak of the Catastrophe. It was not only a cruel act of ethnic cleansing, but it was one of the greatest robberies in the history of mankind. Imagine if you could suddenly gain ownership of Miami-Dade, with all its businesses, inventories, bank accounts, houses, farms, and crops. Palestine was no Miami-Dade County, but the Palestinian possessions were nevertheless quite a pile of loot for the Israelis. This happened, by the way, before Jews left the Arab countries. It most defintely was not a population transfer. The Palestinian victims of ethnic cleansing had nothing to do with what happened to Jews in other Arab countries later. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A
Re: [CTRL] Couple sues over flaming Pop-Tart
-Caveat Lector- On 30 Jul 2001, at 7:42, Peat wrote: Couple sues over flaming Pop-Tart http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/07/28/life.poptart.reut/ Brenda Hurff of Washington Township put a cherry Pop-Tart in the toaster and left the house to drive her children to preschool, the newspaper said. When she returned 10 to 20 minutes later, smoke was pouring from the home and firefighters were already on the scene. She must have an IQ 10 points lower than the average garden slug. Of course she wants Kellog to payfor her stupidity. -- Best wishes Woolybooger for the day: Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas. - Joseph Stalin. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Vatican Assassins - jesuits,kennedy assassination
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.vaticanassassins.org/ Click Here: A HREF=http://www.vaticanassassins.org/;Vatican Assassins - jesuits,kennedy assassinati /A - Wounded in the House of My Friends After Thirty-Six Years of Suppression Exposing the Murder of President John F. Kennedy, by the bloody hand of the Society of Jesus, by Order of its Jesuit General being the Black Pope, In Command of His Most Obedient Servant, the infallible Pope Paul VI being the White Pope, He Controlling the Soviet KGB and Fidel Castro's Communist Cuba through the British, Russian and American Branches of the Knights of Malta, While in Command of His Jesuit-trained Most Obedient Servant: Francis Cardinal Spellman, Directing the Cast of Organized American Traitors, They Being the High Command of The Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasonry The Knights of Columbus, The Mafia and therefore, The Council on Foreign Relations Controlling the Fourteenth Amendment American Empire Including Its: Commander-in-Chief, President Lyndon Johnson, Federal Government and War Machine, Federal Reserve Banking System, Military Industrial Complex, National Lucepress Media, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency, Secret Service, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court with his Warren Commission, Speaker of the House of Representatives with His Assassinations Committee, and Vietnam War by Eric Jon Phelps, White American Freeman and Dispensational Baptist-Calvinist Jesuits, kennedy assassination, nights of malta, cia,kgb,fbi,secret service, black pope, frees VZ/_ /;Éê´ p ' à @ Ä !.Øá\ = The single reason for the President's assassination was his interference with the purpose of the Jesuits' Fourteenth Amendment American Empire created in 1868. That purpose was to restore and maintain the worldwide Temporal (political) Power of that Jesuit Creation of 1870 - the infallible Pope. In resisting the Pope's Temporal Power, he threatened the monopoly of the Jesuits' Federal Reserve Bank by circulating four billion dollars in interest-free United States Notes only to be recalled the day after his burial. The President also attempted to break the foremost international intelligence arm of the Vatican's Jesuits - the evil Central Intelligence Agency - into a thousand pieces. In 1963 the CIA was manned by many of Hitler's old warriors - the Jesuit-controlled Nazi SS - turned cold warriors. According to the great Frenchman, Edmond Paris, in his The Secret History of the Jesuits, it was the Jesuit Staempfle who wrote Hitler's Mein Kampf. It was Roman Catholic Hitler who said of the Roman Catholic Himmler having modeled the SS after the Jesuit Order, I can see Himmler as our Ignatius of Loyola. And lastly, one of the main posts of the feared SD, the Central Security Service of the SS (after which the American CIA would be modeled with the help of the repatriated Nazi General, Reinhard Gehlen), was manned by a priest - a former teacher of the evil Council of Trent at the Court of Bavaria, one of the Jesuit General's favorites, a superior officer of the SS and the uncle of Heinrich Himmler - the Jesuit Himmler! Secreted out of Europe through the Vatican's Ratlines, these murderers escaped their rightful punishment as war criminals who, during the Jesuit Crusade in Europe and Russia, killed millions of Jews pursuant to the Jesuits' evil Council of Trent, which, after condemning freedom of conscience and freedom of the press, concluded with these words: Accursed be all heretics. ACCURSED!! ACCURSED!! Lastly, President Kennedy began to end the Vatican's hoax known as the Cold War, the American CIA and Russian KGB having secretly worked together since World War II. He also began to end that Jesuit Inquisition in Vietnam , as its future highpoint would be Operation Phoenix, the CIA mass-murder of 60,000 Vietnamese in cold blood according to its Director, William Colby. The President interfering with Rome's Holy Office of the Inquisition could not be tolerated! Millions of heretic Buddhists were to be exterminated, the international drug trade would explode, American patriotism and liberty would further be destroyed and Vietnam would be reunited under another communist military dictator loyal to the Pope - like Stalin, like Chairman Mao, like Castro -, Ho Chi Minh. Waged under the guise of fighting godless communism, Cardinal Spellman championed America's most disastrous conflict known as Spelly's War overseen by Spelly's General, the Roman Catholic and CFR member, William Westmoreland. (Remember, according to Col. Fletcher Prouty in his JFK, the forced movement of over 600,000 Roman Catholics on U.S. Navy transport vessels from North Vietnam into South Vietnam was one of the root causes of the Vietnam War. The arch-Catholic Secretary of the Navy responsible for implementing that Jesuit-agitation was the Supreme Knight of the Knights of Columbus, Francis
[CTRL] Fwd: No Subject
To Whom it May Concern: Today I received a letter from Sam Farr saying he passed on three volumes, The JFK ASSASSINATION TIMELINE CHART, vol. 2 and vol. 11 of the de Mohrenschildt Story to the Committee on the Judiciary. His letter to Congressman James F. Sensenbrenner was dated July 18, 2001: Dear Chairman Sensenbrenner: Though the Special Committee on Assassinations delved deeply inth the John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. deaths, there are some who still believe not all the facts have been revealed. A constitutent of mine, Mr. Bruce Adamson, has done extensive research on the JFK assassination and has provided me with a copy of his findings. I am enclosing this information for you so you may make it available to the appropriate authorities. Thank you for your assistance with this matter. Sin. Sam Farr, Member of Congress. If you would like to express your views to Mr. Sensenbrenner please do so by writing snail mail at : The Honorable James F. Sensenbrenner Chairman Committee on the Judiciary 2138 Rayburn HOB Washington, D.C. 20515-0001 Also note that Jackie Kennedy's hairdresser who bought a book last week also included a photograph of himself with Hillary Clinton. Note that a member of Clinton's administration is reviewing four of my books. That's all to report for now. Bruce C. Adamson _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
[CTRL] Privacy Not
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps with all the concerns about wiretaps, e-mail snooping and the like, this might be a nice place to encourage the use of PGP encryption. It would be kind of like sticking our e-mails in a lockbox that only we can open. Only thing is... how do we know an informant is not among us. I dunno... Maybe it's not even worth trying. It's not like we're conspiring to overthrow the government or anything. We're just discussing things that the government would probably prefer that we not even know about. Thing is, though, if enough people use PGP, the government would spend so much time straining their computers to crack the codes of e-mails that it might make e-mail snooping something that's not worth doing anymore. Might cause a mess, though... Does the list get a PGP key? Do we all share our keys with each other? Plus we'd have to type in a passphrase for every e-mail. But is it any more inconvenient than opening an envelope? Damaeus A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Another Conspirator Joins the Michael Aquino Witchhunt
Re: Another Conspirator Joins the Michael Aquino Witchhunt -- From: XX Date: Sun. 29 Jul 2001 To: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex: Thank you for the input. All I can tell you is that I have been following Carol Mardeusz' Brady witness status and I have NEVER found her in a lie. She, and her brother Tommy Van Zandt, organized a children and mother support group in Sacramento where she was living at the time. Shortly thereafter Carol Valentine joined the group and tried to dissuade the women from activism and get them to spend their energies making quilts for sale. Carol told me that Valentine repeatedly said that she was the mother of twin sons whose father was Aquino, her ex-husband. I have interviewed other women in this group and they have said the same thing. I have no reason to doubt their word. Recently Valentine has joined other female/family activism groups and has rapidly moved to control the energy in each one. Who is she? Who knows? Can we find out? We all know there are sponges paid for and prostituted by the powers that be. Thanks again. XX
[CTRL] Fwd: Gulf War vaccine row
BBC NEWS ONLINE Monday, 30 July, 2001, 15:25 GMT 16:25 UK Gulf War vaccine row A scientist claims she has found stronger evidence that a alleged ingredient of vaccines given to Gulf War troops may have made them ill. However, a UK defence minister has insisted that the ingredient, squalene, was never given to British personnel in vaccinations. Research says veterans of the 1991 conflict appear more likely to suffer a variety of severe and long-lasting illnesses than soldiers who served elsewhere. Many believe that the different combinations of symptoms, such as severe headaches, short-term memory loss, extreme fatigue and aching joints, are manifestations of one illness - Gulf War syndrome. However, despite theories about the origin of these symptoms, no single cause has ever been established. And some doctors hotly dispute the idea that these different illnesses could be related to a single cause. Full text: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1465000/1465144.stm Video - Col. Redmond Handy quit his Pentagon post in protest at the military's mandatory anthrax vaccination programme linked to Gulf War Syndrome http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1465000/video/_1465144_gulf01_handy_vi.ram
[CTRL] Fwd: payback time?
we had another friend of our, whose brother was murderred. He was a farmer. They waited outside of his gate and when he came they shot him. They then went away and took nothing. Ah the benefits of diversity and non racism. Sorry about getting cynical.. but I have seen your future John
[CTRL] Fwd: 100 Things Destroying America (Milton Friedman on socialism in America)
Research: http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=5750 Patricia A. Saye Why is there such a general crisis hanging over America? Mon Jul 30 17:32:54 2001 The following is taken from the Constitional Seminar titled: The Unhinging of America 100 Things Destroying America Why is there such a general sense of crisis hanging over America? The average citizen finds his orderly world eroding or even crumbling beneath his feet. His savings have recently become a very slippery kind of security. Taxes, inflation, and high interest rates are ravenously gnawing away at his dwindling standard of living. His hopes of a pleasant and safe retirement are proving illusionary. He has a feeling that he is being propagandized. programmed and over-governed to the point where his personal freedom seems to be shrinking on all fronts. Who has been tampering with the soul of America? Suddenly There Is a Voice In the Wilderness Dr. Milton Friedman, Nobel prize-winning economist from the University of Chicago, took over a television network early in 1980 to shock Americans with the declaration that nearly all of our economic and political problems plaguing the United States are the direct result of the Federal Government indulging in practices which are entirely socialistic in their objectives and completely opposite to the success formula of the American founding fathers. In ten separate one-hour television broadcasts, Dr. Friedman hammered home the message that the American founders had a better way. Then he backed it up with a well-documented book entitled, Free to Choose. Who Is to Blame? Some people were offended when Dr. Friedman identified those who are guilty of propelling us along our present disaster course. He said: If you want to find the devil who is responsible for our becoming more socialist, go home and look in the mirror. We are all of us responsible. If Washington has been making us more socialist, it's because we, as citizens, have been asking Washington to do so. Special Interest Groups Most Americans work through their own special interest groups to put an avalanche of pressure on the system in order to gain special privileges or unconstitutional advantages. Nearly everybody got a wet dishrag in the face from Dr. Friedman. He included the multinational corporations, the big banks. the Federal Reserve System (whom he blamed for prolonging the 1929 depression), organized farm lobbies, big labor, the National Education Association, big cities, little cities, and a multitude of other special interest groups all trying to get something which the Constitution and the free-enterprise system strictly forbids. Actually, this always happens once a government starts drifting toward socialism. Why Socialism is Popular with So Many Politicians The classical definition of socialism will help explain why it is popular with so many politicians. Socialism is defined as: The government ownership or control of the means of production (farms, factories, mines and natural resources) and the means of distribution (transportation, communication, banks, commercial agencies, etc.). To achieve this, socialism always imposes exorbitant taxes and plunges the nation into a huge national debt. In the U.S. taxes now provide hundreds of billions of dollars for distribution by the politicians. In addition, other hundreds of billions are borrowed. Today, the annual interest payments run up around sixty billion dollars -- more than the cost of World War I! Why is Congress doing this? Dr. Milton Friedman came right out and said it: The politicians are using a lot of this money to buy votes. What the Founding Fathers Said Samuel Adams pointed out that the founders had done everything possible to make the principles which we call Socialism, unconstitutional. 1 Socialism in the United States means power gravitating to Washington, and to prevent this, the founders adopted the idea of separation of powers. The Federal Government was given only a few limited and specific powers and all other powers were retained on the local level by the States and the people. (Tenth Amendment) James Madison spelled it out in the Federalist Papers, Number 45, when he said, The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. How Did the Federal Government Acquire So Much Power? All the special interest groups from the big international banks and multinational corporations down to the farmer and rank-and-file labor union member, found they could do things through the national government which were unlawful to do themselves. So a variety of schemes evolved. The
[CTRL] Fwd: Canada lets terminally ill grow, smoke marijuana
cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-eGroups-Edited-By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:43:12 +0200 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [turmel] Congratulations! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [[ JCT: Hi Freed: Much in this is not true. In Canada, we all say the Dutch are first legal. Because government announces it is supposed to make it easier, NOT. But thanks for passing this on and please send such cannabis info not just to the [turmel] group but also to the discussions group: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]] Today, in the Dutch news, a message was broadcast that Marijuana has been legalized for medical purposes in Canada as the first nation (even before the Netherlands). I guess it is your success, and i like to congratulate you cordially for that. And i hope that you now be available again for the design of the new money system. By the way, did you look at my musings accessible via my opening page http://www.planetwork.org If you have any comments, additions, clarifications, i will be happy to add or change. Here is the CNN article i found (no mention of your name though...): Canada lets terminally ill grow, smoke marijuana July 30, 2001 Posted: 3:49 PM EDT (1949 GMT) OTTAWA, Canada (Reuters) -- Canada became the first country in the world on Monday to allow terminally ill patients to grow and smoke their own marijuana, overriding protests from doctors who said the decision could put them in an awkward situation. Until now, anyone in Canada wanting to smoke pot to alleviate pain had to apply to Health Minister Allan Rock for special permission. Some 300 have already done so. But from Monday, anyone with a terminal illness expected to live less than a year will be allowed access to marijuana on the production of a doctor's certificate. Others able to benefit will include those suffering serious pain from conditions like multiple sclerosis, cancer, AIDS and epilepsy as well as severe forms of arthritis and spinal cord problems. This compassionate measure will improve the quality of life of sick Canadians, particularly those who are terminally ill, Rock said in a statement. Groups working with the terminally and seriously ill warmly welcomed the change in rules. I am very glad to be living in a country that is being so progressive...(this) really makes us a country to be proud of and I hope it stays that way, said Derek Thaczuk from the Toronto-based People With AIDS Foundation. Neuropharmacology professor Roger Pertwee, a leading expert on cannabis from Scotland's Aberdeen University, told Reuters that Canada should be praised for its courage. It will certainly make other countries take it seriously, he said. The Canadian move contrasts sharply with the situation in the United States, where the Supreme Court ruled in May that cannabis clubs could not legally distribute marijuana as a medical necessity for seriously ill patients. The U.S. Justice Department questions marijuana's medical usefulness and says it must remain banned. Marijuana is prohibited in Canada as well and sufferers will need a permit to grow their own supply. But they can designate someone to grow it for them or -- at some stage in the future -- buy it from the government. Last December, Ottawa awarded a C$5.8 million ($3.7 million) contract to a company to grow federally approved marijuana in a former mine near a remote Manitoban town. The first pot for sale should be ready next year. Patients permitted to smoke marijuana for medical purposes will be allowed a 30-day supply at any given time. Canada's doctors are unenthusiastic about the idea, saying it will force them to decide whether patients should be allowed access to a substance that has no proven medicinal value. We are still disappointed the fundamental medical issues of quality, efficacy and patient safety have been ignored, the Canadian Medical Association (CMA) said in a statement. These regulations are placing Canadian physicians and their patients in the precarious position of attempting to access a product that has not gone through the normal protocols of rigorous pre-market testing. The CMA said it feared patients might try to ask for marijuana to combat the symptoms of any condition, or pressure their doctors to be given marijuana for recreational purposes. Rock dismisses talk that the new regulations will lead to the decriminalization of marijuana, but there are signs the government is under some pressure. Justice Minister Anne McLellan says she is open to debate on the issue while former prime minister Joe Clark, who leads the minority Conservative party, said in May he supported moves toward decriminalization of the drug. Cannabis is widely used recreationally in Canada and Robin Ellins, owner of a cannabis
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] What the World Gold Council has wrought
'MIDAS' COMMENTARY FOR JULY 29, 2001 Copyright 2001, www.LeMetropoleCafe.com By Bill Murphy Note: Some of following material has been presented to you over the past year, but it is essential that it be rehashed in order to lay out the foundation of a most disturbing situation regarding the World Gold Council and some of its most significant members. The World Gold Council is an association of gold producers headquartered in London ostensibly to promote gold demand and the product of the corporations that fund its operation. That funding is provided by those gold producers who are members. A couple of years ago each member contributed $1 per ounce of their gold production - with the total amounting to the $30 million plus area. The World Gold Council has been so unsuccessful in their efforts that the member producers decided to double their contributions this past year to $2 an ounce of production. If at first you don't succeed, then twice more of the same has to be better - double up on this dog has become their motto. The WGC has focused almost solely on promoting gold as jewelry and completely ignored its store of value component as well as its spectacular investment potential at these low price levels. As a result, the price of gold closed out the 1997, 1998, and 1999 at exactly $288 per ounce. Since then, it has consistently traded around $266 per ounce, ad nauseum. The World Gold Council has made wonderful progress, eh? The most influential members in this council are among the world's most productive gold producers as they contribute the most money. The number one gold producer in the world is AngloGold. The number one producer in North American is Barrick Gold. The World Gold Council has bashed the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee every time they have an opportunity to do so. When two extraordinary, back to back, late August 2001 articles appeared in Germany's influential Frankfurter Algemeine Zietung, they felt compelled to trash GATA by engineering a story of their own in the same paper on September 6th: Die Verschwörungstheorie am Goldmarkt ist abwegig und falsch (The Theory of a Conspiracy of the Gold Market is Misleading and Wrong) The English translation of excerpts of that FAZ story: The Gold Anti-Trust Action (GATA) Committee's conspiracy theory of the Gold market is rebuffed by the World Gold Council and Gold Fields Mineral Services (GFMS). Market analysis by gold expert Jessica Cross for the World Gold Council (WGC) shows no hints of a conspiracy by market participants or market machinations, says WGC. The WGC is an association of interests of gold producing companies. GFMS is an independent consulting company for the precious metals market. If anybody feels he has proof of a conspiracy in the gold market, he should start legal action immediately, says Jessica Cross with regard to the accusations of GATA. However, it is known in the market, that GATA up to now, could not find a known lawyer in America, which takes their accusations seriously. GFMS also thinks, that GATA is stirring up trouble in the gold market with misleading information and that the assertion of a gold market conspiracy is untenable and simply wrong. The World Gold Council and GFMS each reported numbers about the volume of gold leasing and short selling in the market, which are in clear contrast to the numbers of GATA's estimations. GATA believes that gold leasing of the official sector, this means central banks and other official parties, was about 9,000 to 10,000 tonnes by the end of 1999. But, data of WGC and GFMS show that official sector gold leasing was 4750 tonnes. If there was no conspiracy, the gold price would be much higher says GATA. GATA tries to support their theory by pointing to the large gold leasing of central banks and the massive rise in derivative contracts of the bullion banks, warning that these actions are a risk to the market. With their conspiracy theory, they accuse several large German and American banks and also central banks and institutions like the International Monetary Fund. If we wanted to organize a conspiracy, we would do it with fewer institutions was the reaction of a banker to the accusations as he rejected the theory of GATA as not serious. One suspicion of the industry is that behind GATA and its chairman Bill Murphy, there is a group of investors, hoping for rising gold prices with long positions in gold, and contracts for future delivery, which is now on the wrong side, because of the low price of gold. The market could take the whole thing as a ridiculous case, if they were not accusing important participants of the gold market. We appreciate a serious discussion of the gold market but not polemics, they say to Murphy who represents as having achieved a good reception of his conspiracy report, Gold Derivative Banking Crisis, by representatives of the American Congress. These
[CTRL] Haldane and Darlington
-Caveat Lector- Two Geneticists: J.B.S. Haldane and C.D. Darlington By Gavan Tredoux J.B.S. Haldane (1892-1964) and C.D. Darlington (1903-1981) belong to the great school of British geneticists and biological statisticians produced by a country basking in the afterglow of the eminent Victorians, Sir Francis Galton and his cousin Charles Darwin. Darwin, of course, introduced evolution and banished superstition, but it was the more versatile Galton who elevated the studying of human traits to the level of science; inventing modern statistics, psychometrics and behavioural genetics in the process. Galton's long intellectual coattails started with his protégé and biographer, Karl Pearson, who followed Galton's lead in developing the mathematical statistics required to perform what came to be known as biometry - the measurement of biological phenomena, including the rigorous study of evolution. Where Galton invented the 'regression' and 'correlation' statistics, and 'percentiles of the normal distribution', Pearson generalized these concepts to provide an unprecedented level of mathematical sophistication and technical capability, most notably in goodness of fit to statistical models, and skew distributions. Pearson's rival Sir Ronald Fisher formulated the analysis of variance; but he too was following Galton's lead, since attention to statistical variance was totally absent before Galton insisted on it. Joining Pearson and Fisher were Julian Huxley, J.B.S. Haldane and C.D. Darlington: between them, this eminent group not only cured the concrete foundations of the modern science of evolutionary biology, they also built the first dozen floors. What is more, they were all eugenicists; commencing with Pearson, who become an especially zealous convert to Galton's dominating passion. Galton himself had coined the word 'eugenics' in 1883, and had used his considerable prestige in the last decade of his life to publicly promote its cause. Few realize now that this was always an unpopular cause, so much so that Galton kept relatively quiet about it for the first 30 years after he had first raised in in his pivotal Hereditary Genius (1869). Things had turned round by 1939, largely due to the work of Galton's disciples, when the Hermann Muller's Geneticist's Manifesto was signed by the leading scientists of the day, including Fisher, Haldane, Huxley, and Lancelot Hogben. This near-consensus of leading scientific opinion was destroyed by WWII and the aftermath of Nazi atrocities. The eminent geneticists and Galtonians, J.B.S. Haldane and C.D. Darlington, have now slipped from popular memory. First Haldane volunteered himself into obscurity by self-imposed Indian exile, then Darlington was drowned out by the Sixties cacophony and its after-din. This despite both being highly successful, best-selling authors of popular science in their day. Both still repay careful attention: Haldane for his tragic descent into Stalinist orthodoxy and irrelevance, Darlington for his genetically-based universal history - which is still unique, challenging and richly suggestive. J.B.S. Haldane was the son of an distinguished scientist in his own right, J.S. Haldane. An outstanding student at school, and rigorously trained at home by his father, he had original work on genetics accepted for publication while still a schoolboy. Going up to Cambridge, he surprised everyone by changing his field of study after a year, from science to classics; exactly why we still don't know for sure. Nonetheless he took first class and went on to become an outstanding scientist anyway. Haldane could do this because he possessed a rare combination of literary and scientific ability, becoming one of the most outstanding authors of science writing for broader audience - a field now known as popular science. There are many writers of popular science, but few are first-rate scientists in their own right; Haldane was one, Richard Dawkins is another. The field Haldane devoted his career to was genetics, more specifically the mathematical theory of evolutionary genetics, which he helped to construct from the elements put in place by Galton, Pearson, and Mendel. His career moved from Cambridge, to the John Innes Agricultural Institute, to University College London, and eventually exile in India; not because he liked to travel, but because he inevitably quarreled with any and every institution he encountered. Stubborn and prickly, with a near-Serbian capacity for bearing grudges, and hard to get along with, he either made enemies or acolytes. Yet his career might easily have been stillborn altogether when he interrupted his Cambridge education to enlist in the Great War of 1914-8. Haldane stands alone as the one veteran of the Great
Re: [CTRL] Privacy Not
-Caveat Lector- On 31 Jul 2001, at 10:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Perhaps with all the concerns about wiretaps, e-mail snooping and the like, this might be a nice place to encourage the use of PGP encryption. It would be kind of like sticking our e-mails in a lockbox that only we can open. Only thing is... how do we know an informant is not among us. I dunno... Maybe it's not even worth trying. It's not like we're conspiring to overthrow the government or anything. We're just discussing things that the government would probably prefer that we not even know about. Thing is, though, if enough people use PGP, the government would spend so much time straining their computers to crack the codes of e-mails that it might make e-mail snooping something that's not worth doing anymore. Might cause a mess, though... Does the list get a PGP key? Do we all share our keys with each other? Plus we'd have to type in a passphrase for every e-mail. But is it any more inconvenient than opening an envelope? Damaeus The only way this would work would be for the list to share it's private key with every member, which would pretty much defeat the purpose of a private key. The snoops could get the key by subscribing to the list. -- Best wishes Woolybooger for the day: (3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. -Article 29, Universal Declaration of Human Rights Adopted and proclaimed by General Assembly resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reporter's jailing by feds draws criticism
-Caveat Lector- 07/29/2001 - Updated 11:15 PM ET Reporter's jailing by feds draws criticism By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY By Joe Jaszewski, AP/Houston Chronicle Vanessa Leggett's case raises concerns that John Ashcroft may take protections away from journalists. The jailing of a Texas reporter who refused to give her research to U.S. prosecutors has raised concerns that Attorney General John Ashcroft is reversing a policy that gives journalists wide latitude in protecting confidential sources and unpublished information. At the Justice Department's request, a federal judge jailed freelance writer Vanessa Leggett on July 20 on contempt of court charges after she refused to turn over notes, tape recordings and other material she collected while researching a book on the slaying of Doris Angleton in 1997. Angleton was the wife of Robert Angleton, a millionaire ex-bookie who was acquitted in 1998 of hiring his brother to commit the murder. The decision to jail Leggett, done at prosecutors' behest by an unidentified judge in a closed court hearing in Houston, has drawn criticism from press freedom groups and has become the latest curious twist in the U.S. government's pursuit of the Angleton case. The focus of the federal investigation is unclear. The Justice Department last had a reporter jailed in 1991, when four South Carolina journalists were locked up for eight hours when they refused to testify at the corruption trial of a state senator. Since 1973, the U.S. attorney general has been required to approve every federal subpoena issued to a reporter as well as every request by federal prosecutors to arrest a reporter. Justice Department spokesman Chris Watney declined to discuss Leggett's case or whether Ashcroft was involved. Watney said that under federal policy, Ashcroft's approval would not be needed in such a case if prosecutors did not consider the person withholding material to be a journalist. This is a darn significant case, said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. It's either an important shift in policy or (prosecutors are) ignorant of a Justice Department policy in effect since the Nixon administration. Leggett, 33, a writing teacher at the University of Houston, does not have a contract for her book and has not published any articles related to it. She has talked with several magazines about publishing a story on the murder case, however. Leggett has spent several years researching the slaying in April 1997 of Doris Angleton, whose husband, Robert, was acquitted in a state court in August 1998. Robert Angleton's brother, Roger Angleton, committed suicide in jail in February 1998, leaving a confession that said he had acted alone. Leggett interviewed Roger Angleton before his suicide. The U.S. government began investigating Robert Angleton after his acquittal. Media attorneys say that if U.S. officials pushed to jail Leggett with the idea that federal protections for journalists did not apply to her, the officials were in error. She stands in the same shoes as any television or newspaper reporter, says Robert Lystad, an attorney for the Society of Professional Journalists who is not involved in Leggett's case. She's exactly the type of reporter or book author who shouldn't be harassed into turning over her notes. Leggett's jailing also has been criticized because it was done secretly. The hearing was closed to the public at the government's request. The transcript is sealed, and the judge's name was not released. It's one thing to incarcerate a member of the press for not doing what the government wants. But to do it in secret and threaten to jail (her) lawyer for talking about the details is outrageous, said Mike DeGuerin, Leggett's attorney. The Angleton murder case has attracted considerable attention in Houston. The CBS show 48 Hours is preparing a report on it. Ken Paulson, executive director of the First Amendment Center, said Leggett will have difficulty winning her appeal. Texas does not have a shield law that lets reporters protect confidential sources and research material. Leggett can be held for up to 18 months on the contempt charges. -- Best wishes When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. - Victor Marie Hugo A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Re: [CTRL] Myths of a Palestinian Homeland
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/29/2001 9:48:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power. Darn it! I must really have a problem. I seem to recall that name in our big atlas at home, and I swear it was in a bunch of my text books when I was in school. What happened there? It was Palestine right up to the end of WWII, and then by magic it disappeared and became Israel. I didn't mind at the time, as I figured the people who lived there would just have to learn to spell a new word. I was wrong. The people who lived there were not allowed to live there any more, and the few who managed to hang on have been tormented ever since. It's really the only place where the Nazi won the war. Prudy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] More from the Donald Scott Case
-Caveat Lector- FEAR also offers an unmoderated discussion list and digests for all lists List update: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=FEAR-list-update PLEASE CROSS-POST TO OTHER LISTS! I got an urgent call today from Frances Scott, the widow of Donald Scott, who was killed by the police in 1992 in a raid motivated by the prospect of forfeiture revenue. She is about to be evicted from her home, after fighting all these years. I have known Frances since the memorial service for Donald Scott, on October 2, 1993, marking the first anniversary of his death. She has been through one legal battle after another trying to hold onto this property for the past 9 years. This latest development is very serious. She faxed me the eviction notice this evening. It gives her a deadline of Thursday, August 2. Here's the e-mail she sent me. Dear Brenda, This is an emergency! As You know my husband DONALD SCOTT was murdered on October 2,1992 when we were falsely accused of growing marijuana. The Ranch burned down to the ground one year later due to arson. Now the IRS is forcing the auctioning of our land due to these unlawful DEATH TAXES that has been placed on all American families. On January 30,2001, I had someone bid on the ranch for our family to the tune of $1,950,000.00 with two other financial backers in place but the F.B.I. and other law enforcement agencies raided their homes and businesses destroying their lives causing them to not be able to help me anymore! The estate lawyers are even holding my down payment of $195,000.00 for potential damages leaving me penniless, once again! Brenda, I must urgently beg your help and I know how very busy you are! I have fought a nine year long and very hard battle to save my husbands land and have now opened up the DONALD SCOTT MEMORIAL FUND at Bank of America,Point Dume,29171 Heathercliff Rd, Malibu, Ca 90264 and P.O. Box 6755, Malibu, Ca 90264. Any contributions would be gratly apreciated more than words can ever say! I am getting ready to be evicted by the Sherriffs very soon! Please go on my website www.savetrailsend.org and click on Frances Scott to get update and download music! Thank You and God Bless You and Pass it on, please Sincerely, Frances Scott ** FEAR also offers an unmoderated discussion list and digests for all lists List unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] In Praise of Sex Tourism
-Caveat Lector- In praise of sex tourism By Bart Croughs Sex tourists arent very popular. Discriminatory, prejudiced, stereotyped talk about this minority is all too common. And strangely enough, liberal intellectuals never object when this unpopular minority is attacked. One of the discriminatory stereotypes one often hears about sex tourists: they are ugly, old, bald, fat men who only can get sexual satisfaction in third world countries. Suppose this is true, whats so bad about this? I think every enlightened intellectual ought to applaud fat old men going to Thailand every summer. This way, the inequality in the world is being reduced - and this is after all the ultimate goal of the progressive thinkers. Men who are unattractive because of their fatness, baldness, old age etceteras are sexually worse off than men who are young, handsome, etceteras. This is a shameful form of inequality, and certainly not less of an injustice than the inequality in incomes that makes our Western capitalist societies so outrageously unjust. Happily, the sexually disadvantaged have the opportunity to visit third world countries, where they can eliminate their disadvantaged position. One could say that sex tourism is the means towards the liberation of the sexual proletariat. It is incomprehensible to me why liberals would object to this important way of achieving equality. Sex tourists are often criticized because they take advantage of the Third World prostitutes, who sell their bodies because they are forced by poverty to do so. This is a strange criticism. Everybody who cares about the welfare of the Third World hookers should hope that they get as many Western customers as they can handle. If sex tourists stay away from Third World countries, the only effect will be that the poor prostitutes in these countries, after losing the income from the sex tourists, will become even poorer. In fact, the sex tourists are giving a kind of foreign aid, and a very effective kind of foreign aid to boot. For a change, the money doesnt disappear into the pockets of corrupt politicians and bureaucrats, and it isnt being spent on weapons or senseless prestige projects either; instead, it goes straight into the pockets of the poor population. Add to this the fact that in general sex tourists act rather like feminists. Most of them practice a private form of affirmative action (without any laws forcing them to do so!): they prefer female prostitutes to male prostitutes. This way the disadvantaged women in Third World countries are given the opportunity to advance their economic position and catch up with the men. Sex tourists are also criticized because they dont pay the Third World prostitutes enough for their services. Expressions like exploitation are not uncommon. In this view, sex tourism is not bad in itself, only the fact that the tourists dont pay more than the prostitutes ask them to pay is bad. This is another peculiar criticism. Prostitution is not the only service that is relatively cheap in Third World countries: other services like hotels, restaurants, transportation etc. are also relatively cheap. Still, nobody is mad at tourists because they pay taxi drivers or restaurant owners no more than the market price. Why then should tourists pay prostitutes more than the market price? A final objection to sex tourism: there are women in Third World countries who are forced to prostitute themselves by threat of violence. But if one is to believe the reports in the Western media, many women in Europe are also forced to prostitute themselves by threat of violence. Those who agitate against sex tourism because of the violence some of the prostitutes suffer, ought to agitate against the whoremongers in the west as well. There is no reason to single out sex tourists for a special attack. On the contrary: when the whore-hoppers in the West decide to stop visiting prostitutes, the Western prostitutes who lose their jobs can go on welfare, whereas for most prostitutes in the Third World the only alternative is abject poverty. Furthermore, its a rather strange idea to abolish an entire industry just because there are some criminals working in that industry. It seems easier and more reasonable to try to stop the abuse. Today there are a lot of organizations like Fair trade or Trans-fair International, which have followed in the footsteps of the Dutch organisation Max Havelaar, the first fair trade initiative. These organizations offer their own consumer labels, which guarantee the liberal consumer that their snacks (chocolate, coffee, and the like) are made without child labour and other forms of capitalist exploitation. Why isnt there a progressive organisation that offers a consumer
Re: [CTRL] Myths of a Palestinian Homeland
-Caveat Lector- Prudy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, I forwarded this. I didn't write it. Nevertheless: The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power. Darn it! I must really have a problem. I seem to recall that name in our big atlas at home, and I swear it was in a bunch of my text books when I was in school. What happened there? It was Palestine right up to the end of WWII, and then by magic it disappeared and became Israel. Yes, even the author of the piece you critiqued says as much: The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. Edward + The desire to rule is the mother of heresies. ~ St. John Chrysostom http://www.global-connector.com ~~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA role may grow in preventing US terror attacks
-Caveat Lector- CIA role may grow in preventing US terror attacks http://www.brecorder.com/story/00/200107/20010731/200107310509.shtml ...WASHINGTON : A US intelligence review is exploring possible new roles for the CIA and other spy agencies in the domestic arena to protect the United States from terrorist attack, a senior intelligence official said. US intelligence agencies operate overseas and are generally prohibited from having a hand in domestic affairs to ensure a taboo against spying on Americans is not broken. It is not clear yet what new role they might take on. ...We know that we're going to increasingly be a target in this country and we also know that intelligence is going to have a role to play in trying to protect the homeland, protect the continental US a senior intelligence official familiar with the review told Reuters. ...The official said that nobody has worked through the mechanics of how all of that would work, but said it was expected that one of the things coming out of this review would be some recommendations on how to think differently about the intelligence role in homeland defence. ...President George W. Bush in May ordered a comprehensive review, giving CIA Director George Tenet a broad mandate to challenge the status quo and explore new and innovative techniques, systems, practices and processes for foreign intelligence collection, analysis and distribution. ...The review is assessing programs with an eye to being ready to meet future needs by 2015 and could recommend restructuring, the official and intelligence analysts said in recent interviews. ...It is being conducted by a panel of government insiders led by Joan Dempsey, deputy director of central intelligence for community management, and a group of outside experts led by Brent Scowcroft, a former White House national security adviser. ...CIA ROLE QUESTIONED: The United States has been trying to develop a large-scale emergency plan to deal with any biological, chemical or nuclear attack on US soil. Vice President Dick Cheney is leading a review of America's ability to cope with such an attack. ...The Central Intelligence Agency is generally forbidden to spy on Americans, but can under certain circumstances collect intelligence information on US citizens if they are believed to be involved in espionage or terrorist activities. ...The FBI is responsible for handling criminal activity inside US borders and conducted by Americans. ...The review was not expected to recommend changing laws that limit the role of US intelligence agencies relative to Americans. We wouldn't talk about changing any of that, the intelligence official said on condition of anonymity. ...But when does homeland defence transition from being (about) criminal activity to being (about) a national security threat? Those are the kinds of issues that I would expect to be coming out of this review, the official said. ...The review is looking at how to combat threats emerging from diverse directions since the Soviet Union dissolved. ...It reflects this ongoing concern that we are now 11 years after the end of the Cold War and we still haven't seen tremendous response to that alteration in terms of what the intelligence community does, said Mark Lowenthal, senior principal at SRA International Inc, a consulting firm. ...NEW ESPIONAGE TECHNIQUES: The review also is looking at developing new espionage techniques for collecting foreign secrets. ...It is increasingly true that our capabilities are extremely well known and we have to develop capabilities that aren't well known, the US intelligence official said. ...The National Security Agency (NSA), which eavesdrops on communications worldwide using spy satellites and listening posts, is an acknowledged problem child - struggling to keep pace with technological advances from sophisticated encryption to hard-to-tap fibre optics. ...The NSA problem is really the most serious, Gregory Treverton, a senior consultant at RAND and former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council, said. ...NSA must operate differently as it becomes harder to capture signals using traditional methods, and rely more on using people who will risk their lives to put objects with ears close to the targeted signal, Treverton said. ...The understandable culture of secrecy is a huge obstacle, he said. ...For example In-Q-Tel, a CIA-sponsored venture capital firm that seeks to bring private-sector technological innovations to the intelligence world, has been faced with finding software it likes only to discover that a foreigner was involved in writing it, which threatens its secrecy, Treverton said. ...In intelligence analysis, where resources are stretched to cope with the huge volume of incoming information, one solution is to buy outside expertise, the intelligence official said. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION
Re: [CTRL] Couple sues over flaming Pop-Tart
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/31/01 8:37:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She must have an IQ 10 points lower than the average garden slug. Of course she wants Kellog to payfor her stupidity. She, like the vast majority of people today refuse to take responsibility for their actions. Someone else is always responsible, in this case Kellog. Now if Kellog goes on the Oprah show and apologies for selling pop tarts that are flammable, then all will be forgiven. BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] In Praise of Sex Tourism
-Caveat Lector- The most disgusting thing I have seen on television lately, the Invasion of the Bed Bugs. It seems our motesl and hotels - and alleged nice motels and hotels, the mattresses in said motels have become infested with bed bugs. And the cause given? Multicultural occupants .not sure what they meant by this, but I hope it gives the Bilderbergers fits. Maybe they have been eatin chitlins or crackers in bed? Or maybe it is true - The Invasion of the Bedbugsbug warfare and it could not happen to a nicer place. Motels have become virtually houses for prostitution a and one night stands - and hey, today state officials have credit cards and invite their paramours when they attend to state business while at the same time, indulging in a little extracurricular activityand we the taxpayers pay for same. Wonder if this bastard Condit ever took Chandra to a motel - did they check? Tell me would you want to stay at any motel or hotel these days, knowing its occupants indulge in - well like the local Ramada Inn - pornography and drugs where kids would rent out rooms and behind them, why organized crime figures cashing in..what was lovely at this particular Ramada Inn know owned by Japanese I understand, the local gendarmes were on the payroll and I always wondered why a motel needed security off duty police paying them twice their salaries? Maybe to protect the drug dealers? Who knows...next time you go to a motel bring your own mattress...wonder if they provide curb service these days for anything goes with the tourist trade..sure would like to look at Gary Condit's credit cards but a man of a thousand faces, surely he left paper trails somewhere with his many activities. Lets Have One for the Bed Bugs in Motels - they have the occupants at times, outclassed. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Roots of Racial Profiling
-Caveat Lector- Papers, we must see your papers. .. because god forbid a person would stand up against the police. the American constitution is dieing and getting deader all the time. and dieing with a wimper not a roar. iggy A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Duh.
Surgery Works, Says Miss World Contender CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - With a bit of ``physical preparation'' -- artificial breast implants, a nose job and a little trimming of fat from the hips -- you too can aspire to be Miss World (news - web sites). So says Venezuela's latest candidate for the world beauty contest, Andreina Prieto, who admitted on Thursday night that were it not for the help of cosmetic surgery, she probably would not have made the line-up. The raven-haired 19-year-old was chosen from among 40 other contestants to represent the South American country at the next Miss World competition in South Africa on Nov. 17. Prieto, wearing a blue bikini, told reporters that prior to entering the competition, she had three separate operations: one to improve the shape of her nose, a liposuction to remove fat from her hips and breast implants. ``If it wasn't for that, I probably wouldn't be here,'' she said. She displayed a brilliant smile, but did not say if that too was the result of surgery. Prieto said she was counting on her intelligence and ''physical preparation'' to help her win the Miss World crown. Oil-rich Venezuela takes the beauty industry very seriously and has gained a reputation as a ``factory'' of international beauty contest winners. Venezuelan women have won five Miss World titles and four Miss Universe (news - web sites) crowns. A private company, the Miss Venezuela Organization, specializes in preparing candidates for the Miss World and Miss Universe contests, and spends around $72,000 on each contender, in clothes, diets and, of course, cosmetic surgery. ---Regards,Peter E LukeMere Meaningless Diversions? Or what's really happening?Visit or Sign Up Today Find Out!Website:http://www.geocities.com/peatluke/Diversionz.htmlTo Get on the Bus:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Diversionz
Re: [CTRL] Myths of a Palestinian Homeland
-Caveat Lector- In my one older bible, published by Oxford Press, SS Teachers Edition - word Palestina means Land of Strangers. What is there is the bible about a man who soays I am a stranger in my own land... This bible is 1875 or so and my late 1700 bible, has no map of palestine but many engravings. Term Beyond the Pale (name of my sister's former home and land) means essentially beyond the reach of the law.. Israel means, Soldier of God and as I recall also Son of IsraelI thouoght it could mean land of Sun God but whatever it is, Palestinian are all semites, are they not? Saba Blue eyed devils like Henry Kissinger aka the Pig - are the ASHKENAZI Euroean jews...love that Nazi ending for this I believe is the well, it speaks for itself. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Duh.
-Caveat Lector- Like Hollywood - one nose at one time fit all? Even Marilyn Monroe had a nose job, Barbara Streisand could not but she still sings with nasal twang, Zsa Za Gabor - etc. Even Elizabeth Taylor when very young had nose job.these noses when new, often look like little pig snouts. Remembe Rod Serling in one Twilight Zone episode had people getting nose jobs and the worksand boy they all had those horible pig snouts - even Joey Heatherton. Now it is fat lips.but when they go back to normal, they now leave vicious wrinkles around the mouth - what will Julie Andrews do. Yes, one nose still fits all.glad I was born with a Roman honker. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NBC's Lack, Rep. Waxman Clashing
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.tvinsite.com/multichannelnews/index.asp?layout=storyarticleid=doc _id=39129display=breakingNews Click Here: A HREF=http://www.tvinsite.com/multichannelnews/index.asp?layout=storyarticlei d=doc_id=39129display=breakingNewsCahners | TVinsite/A - NBC's Lack, Rep. Waxman Clashing By Ted Hearn Multichannel News 7/31/2001 12:21:00 AM Printer-Friendly version E-mail this to a colleagueRep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) wants NBC News to surrender to him alleged in-house NBC videotapes that reportedly show presidential-election-night interference with news operations by General Electric Co. chairman and CEO Jack Welch in support of then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush. GE, one of the largest industrial conglomerates in the world, is the corporate parent of NBC, which owns a national TV network, multiple local TV stations and a stable of cable networks. Like many major news outlets, NBC News called last November's presidential race for Republican Bush over Democrat Al Gore, even though the contest wasn't decided by the U.S. Supreme Court until more than one month later in Bush's favor. NBC president and CEO Andrew Lack has repeatedly denied the Welch allegation, both in sworn House testimony Feb. 14 and in two letters to Waxman subsequent to his House Energy and Commerce appearance. But Waxman has kept pressing Lack and complaining that his denials have been evasive. In raising the Welch matter at the House hearing, Waxman said he was aware of rumors -- perhaps recorded on videotape by NBC promotional and advertising personnel -- that Welch made statements suggesting that he wanted NBC News to call the race for Bush. In a Feb. 16 follow-up letter to Lack, Waxman provided additional details surrounding the Welch 'rumor' that Waxman said he hoped turned out to be nothing more than an 'urban myth.' For instance, Waxman said he heard of two NBC videotapes 'that would either prove or debunk the allegation.' He said one tape is 'said to be in the closet of Frank Raddis, NBC's East Coast head of advertising and promotion,' and it captures NBC decision-desk events on election night in a comprehensive manner with high picture quality. Waxman said he was aware of a second tape shot in 'high 8' with a hand-held camera by Steve Fastook or John Larrouso. Waxman did not identify these individuals as NBC employees. 'This tape is reportedly not as comprehensive as the first tape, but it shows Mr. Welch pressuring the desk to call the election for George W. Bush,' Waxman told Lack in the Feb. 16 letter. Waxman also recounted for Lack the substance of three rumors that showed 'inappropriate interference' by Welch, according to Waxman's unnamed rumor providers. Welch, Waxman said, 'reportedly cheered when things appeared to favor George W. Bush and hissed when they appeared to favor Al Gore.' Welch also told someone at the NBC decision desk: 'What would I have to give you to call the race for Bush?' But Waxman said the most serious allegation he knew of was that Welch was 'responsible for giving the order to call the election for George W. Bush.' For his part, Lack has told Waxman more than once that Welch in no way interfered with NBC News' election-night coverage. He added that because Welch was totally uninvolved, there were no videotapes that would either support or refute his claim. I was there and in charge. It just didn't happen. So there can be no videotape showing that it did,' Lack said in a Feb. 22 reply to Waxman. Lack was president of NBC News, but he became president and CEO of NBC in May. Although Waxman said he was reassured by Lack's general denials, he complained that Lack did not specifically address his questions about the two tapes. 'I asked you a simple, direct question, and you responded with an artful and transparent rhetorical evasion,' Waxman said in a March 15 letter to Lack. 'Instead of providing me with that information, you responded with syllogistic reasoning: Mr. Welch did not interfere, therefore, `there can be no videotape showing' he interfered.' Taking one more swipe at Lack, Waxman concluded: 'I am confident that reporters in your own news division would consider your Feb. 22 response wholly inadequate if it were provided by a government official in response to a journalist's question.' The Waxman-Lack dispute could come to a head Tuesday. In a July 11 letter to Lack, Waxman requested that NBC review his questions a second time and report its finding by July 31. An NBC source was checking whether Lack would have anything more to say to Waxman by the deadline. In his House testimony, Lack called the Welch story a 'dopey rumor' that was untrue and claimed he was unaware if the videotapes existed. Lack acknowledged that Welch visited NBC News on election night and if a videotape of Welch's appearance existed, Waxman 'was certainly welcome to the tape.' But Lack has backed away from that promise of furnishing the video. In his April 20 letter to Waxman, Lack said, 'It
[CTRL] Fwd: softwar
XP ON SALE $13 According to China, illegal copies of Windows XP are on sale inside the PRC. The pirated copies of the new Microsoft operating system are available for $13 on the streets of Hong Kong. CODE RED STONE WALL The FBI has run into a stone-wall from Chinese Ministry of State Security (MSS) over the CODE RED virus. The FBI is trying to trace the origin of the CODE RED virus and has leads that point east. Beijing officials have not responded to requests from the FBI to pursue the leads. SILENT CODE RED Don't expect the President Bush to make a big deal about the CODE RED investigation stall from China. Heavy pressure from U.S. satellite makers - who want to restart exports to China - has already forced the White House to ignore the EP-3 incident, PRC human rights abuses and nuclear weapons violations. WHY BE NORMAL? Singapore has developed new a software package to monitor suspicious behavior on computers. The new software is designed to help Singapore keep a close eye on its citizens by tracking normal activity. Pcyphered SIGNATURE: 64F636D8AFE8D00B05768001A98727B7FE673AC802CCE4529014467F22649D45 BEF175E7CE79F6FA3FD6A78737B2BE60F8B8D98C6940D715C93C84AFBAFDC12F 5DCF340D4425B7D7 OFFICIAL SOFTWAR COMMUNICATION VERIFIED BY DIGITAL SIGNATURE SOFTWAR EMAIL NEWSLETTER COPYRIGHT (C) 2001 SOFTWAR INC. 7/31/01 TO UNSUBSCRIBE REPLY WITH UNSUBSCRIBE AS SUBJECT
[CTRL] The Policy Behind The Controversy (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- The Policy Behind The Controversy July 25, 2001 by: Phyllis Schlafly You've got to hand it to the National Education Association. The NEA's press people and spin artists know how to manipulate the news. The NEA got widespread national publicity by announcing on Independence Day that it was withdrawing its controversial proposed New B resolution regarding Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender Education. Parents concluded they could relax in the assurance that their darlings would not be exploited with such teaching in the schools. But not so fast. It was all smoke and mirrors. The 10,000 delegates assembled in this year's annual convention in Los Angeles quietly adopted at least ten separate resolutions that add up to substantially the same subject matter as the withdrawn New B. This episode began when it leaked out that the NEA planned to adopt an in-your-face resolution demanding that the gay rights agenda be incorporated into everything from school curricula to teacher hiring. For the first time, there was revolt in the ranks of the NEA's 2.3 million teachers, and the Oklahoma affiliate publicly opposed it. Tennessee delegates asked for a vote on New Business Item 59 that read: The NEA shall hold its affiliates harmless, for a period of five years, for any loss of dues revenue related to loss of membership beginning with the 2001-2002 membership year if Resolution New B is passed. These delegates explained the rationale behind this item: A significant number of NEA affiliates experienced membership losses related to [last year's] passage of Resolution B-9. Most of them have not recovered their losses, and we believe that we will experience an equal or greater loss of membership if Resolution New B is passed. So, the NEA leadership decided to make a public announcement that the new controversial New B would not be brought to a vote. However, NEA President Bob Chase assured the delegates that in no way is NEA backing away from dealing with the important issues raised by the proposed Resolution. . . . Far from backing away from these issues, this task force will expand the scope of the inquiry. Chase's promise was confirmed when the NEA convention went ahead and passed a dozen resolutions, mostly repeats from previous years, affirming practically every point covered in the withdrawn New B. Resolution B-7 calls for acceptance of diversity, which is defined to include sexual orientation. It also calls for observances, programs, and curricula that accurately portray and recognize the roles, contributions, cultures, and history of these diverse groups and individuals. B-9 calls for plans, activities, and programs that increase respect and acceptance toward gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered people. The resolution demands an end to stereotyping based on sexual orientation. B-9 also calls for extending this policy to curricula, textbooks, resource and instructional materials, activities, etc. It demands that we integrate into all curricula a portrayal of the roles of groups who have been underrepresented historically. B-38 demands that we recognize different family structures. This includes recognizing domestic partners. B-40 and C-22 call for comprehensive education programs about HIV/AIDS as an integral part of the school curriculum. Integrating subject matter in the curriculum means concealing it so that parents cannot exempt their children from the class. C-27 calls on the schools to provide counseling services and programs for students who are struggling with their sexual/gender orientation. D-8 calls for hiring policies and practices that include provisions for the recruitment of a diverse teaching staff. Nobody is fooled by this euphemism. E-5 demands that educational materials and activities should accurately portray cultural diversity. There's that word diversity again. F-1 puts the NEA on record in support of affirmative action plans and procedures that encourage active recruitment and employment of men in underrepresented education categories . . . in order to overcome past discrimination. This resolution includes sexual orientation among other factors. I-10 states that the NEA is committed to the achievement of a totally integrated society. This includes eliminating all barriers based on sexual orientation. I-38 redundantly demands the elimination of discrimination based on sexual orientation. I-42 deplores hate-motivated violence based on sexual orientation. Other resolutions among the dozens that were passed at the 2001 Convention in Los Angeles reaffirmed all the radical policies the NEA has endorsed in the past. They reveal the NEA's paranoid opposition to school choice, homeschooling, and parental supervision of sex education. Many were shocked this year when the District of Columbia City Council proposed lowering the compulsory school age to age three. We shouldn't have been shocked: the NEA convention
Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Mideast War Alert
-Caveat Lector- At 12:31 AM 7/31/2001 -0700, ashley Abraham wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hey William, Why is it that you keep posting crap from or about Lyndon LaRouche? Are you a Neo-Nazi? He's a total freak and I can't imagine any sane person giving him his/her attention. Ashley Wow! Look out now - you're being WAAY too obvious in your ad hominem attack on LaRouche and kill the messenger approach to Williams' post. It is such a textbook disinformationalists' tactic that it made me go back to re-read and reconsider the LaRouche article. Probably a few other folks here on the list did the same and I don't believe that was your intention. Mary A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Privacy Not
-Caveat Lector- unfortunately this list is a bit of a playground for retired CIA etc who are trying to make a bit of pocketmoney - so the key wouldn't be safe also - I'm pretty sure the government/NSA has the ability to strip down PGP by now - its the first thing i would ask ET for - computer capacity like that. andrew - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: [CTRL] Privacy Not -Caveat Lector- Perhaps with all the concerns about wiretaps, e-mail snooping and the like, this might be a nice place to encourage the use of PGP encryption. It would be kind of like sticking our e-mails in a lockbox that only we can open. Only thing is... how do we know an informant is not among us. I dunno... Maybe it's not even worth trying. It's not like we're conspiring to overthrow the government or anything. We're just discussing things that the government would probably prefer that we not even know about. Thing is, though, if enough people use PGP, the government would spend so much time straining their computers to crack the codes of e-mails that it might make e-mail snooping something that's not worth doing anymore. Might cause a mess, though... Does the list get a PGP key? Do we all share our keys with each other? Plus we'd have to type in a passphrase for every e-mail. But is it any more inconvenient than opening an envelope? Damaeus A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hacking activity at all-time high
-Caveat Lector- Hacking activity at all-time high By John Leyden, The Register, 7/30/2001 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/20714.html Hacking activity is at an all-time high, according to stats compiled by The Honeynet Project. It bases this conclusion on the number of attacks perpetrated against a network of servers, set up by the organisation specifically to collect data on hacking attempts. The intrusion detection system placed on the Honeynet's servers generated 157 alerts during May 2000 but this figure had escalated by a factor of almost nine to 1,398 alerts by February 2001. The Honeynet's firewall showed a doubling of alerts from 103 to 206 per month between May 2000 and February 2001. Much of what the project discovered chimes in with the increasing incidents of corporate Web site defacement and other hacking attacks but it also throws up some interesting insights in the techniques used by black hat hackers. Some black hats have streamlined their scanning process to merely look for a specific service, the Honeynet Project said on a report on its work, which is available here. If they find the service, they launch the exploit without even first determining if the system is vulnerable, or even the correct system. This aggressive approach allows black hats to scan and exploit more systems in less time, said the report, which added the tactic of focusing on exploiting a single vulnerability is used by many s'kiddies. These numbers indicate black hat activity has continued to grow, most likely the result of more aggressive, automated scanning tools and their growing availability. Between April and December 2000, seven default installations of Red Hat 6.2 servers were attacked within three days of connecting to the Internet. From this the people behind the project concluded that the life expectancy of a default installation of Red Hat 6.2 server to be less then 72 hours. Scary stuff. By contrast a default Windows 98 installation with shares enabled, typical of that found in many homes, was compromised in just 24 hours. The most popular attack method used by hackers were buffer attacks associated with rpc.statd service on Intel machine and the most popular scanning tool was found to be Syn-Fin. The Honeynet Project maintained a closely monitored eight IP network linked up to the net using an ISDN connection, such as a small business might use. Within this network of honeypot machines, which are designed to lure unsuspecting hackers inside, three systems (running either Solaris Sparc, NT, Windows 98 or Red Hat Linux) were generally running at most times. The people behind the project collected and archived every attack on this network for an eleven month period, between April 2000 and February 2001 but its results were only published this week. They admit that their findings are specific to their network and that more research, especially on using data to predict attacks, is needed. The Honeynet Project reckons that enterprise users will see far more attacks than those thrown against the project's machines. Remember, the Honeynet used to collect this information had no production systems of value, nor was it advertised to lure attackers. If your organisation has any value, or is advertised in any way, you are most likely exposed to even greater threat. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Privacy Not
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Privacy Not -Caveat Lector- unfortunately fnord this fnord list fnord is fnord a fnord bit fnord of fnord a fnord playground fnord for fnord retired fnord CIA fnord etc fnord who fnord are fnord trying fnord to fnord make fnord a fnord bit fnord of fnord pocketmoney fnord - so fnord the fnord key fnord wouldn't fnord be fnord safe also fnord - I'm fnord pretty fnord sure fnord the fnord government/NSA fnord has fnord the fnord ability fnord to fnord strip fnord down fnord PGP fnord by fnord fnord now - its fnord the fnord first fnord thing fnord i fnord would fnord ask fnord ET fnord for fnord - computer fnord capacity fnord like that. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Iran blasts Israeli plan to build temple
-Caveat Lector- Source: http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=207172 Iran blasts Israeli plan to build temple Monday, 30 July 2001 18:57 (ET) Iran blasts Israeli plan to build temple By MODHER AMIN TEHRAN, Iran, July 30 (UPI) -- Iran Monday condemned the Israeli plan to build a Jewish temple near the 1,300-year-old al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, calling it a provocative action which would escalate the crisis in the region. The Islamic Republic of Iran voices deep concern over the affair and that the Israeli action has caused concern among all Islamic nations. Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi said according to the official news agency IRNA. This is a provocative action in the occupied Palestinian lands and a desecration of Islamic sanctities which escalate the crisis in the Middle East. Kharrazi, who was meeting with a number of European and Asian diplomats in Tehran, called for international action to stop what he called Israel's Judaization bid by taking necessary measures to pressure Israel to respect international regulations and conventions. He also called on the United Nations Security Council to take immediate action to condemn the Israeli plot and deploy international observer force to the region. Calling the Palestinian Intifada the legitimate right of the Palestinian nation representing wrath against the violation of their rights, Kharrazi reiterated Iran's stance that holding a referendum among Muslims, Christians and Jews to determine their own fate and repatriation of Palestinian refugees are prerequisites of a lasting and just peace in the Middle East. -- Copyright 2001 by United Press International. All rights reserved. Edward + The desire to rule is the mother of heresies. ~ St. John Chrysostom http://www.global-connector.com ~~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Privacy Not
-Caveat Lector- you came up with an original word - amazing - all you have to do now is get a few more and make a sentence - and before you know it - you may have expressed an original idea in terms of a paragraph - I would watch trying not to repeat the same idea too often though - folks might get the wrong idea :) andrew - Original Message - From: c. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Privacy Not -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Privacy Not -Caveat Lector- unfortunately fnord this fnord list fnord is fnord a fnord bit fnord of fnord a fnord playground fnord for fnord retired fnord CIA fnord etc fnord who fnord are fnord trying fnord to fnord make fnord a fnord bit fnord of fnord pocketmoney fnord - so fnord the fnord key fnord wouldn't fnord be fnord safe also fnord - I'm fnord pretty fnord sure fnord the fnord government/NSA fnord has fnord the fnord ability fnord to fnord strip fnord down fnord PGP fnord by fnord fnord now - its fnord the fnord first fnord thing fnord i fnord would fnord ask fnord ET fnord for fnord - computer fnord capacity fnord like that. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Mideast War Alert
In a message dated 7/31/01 2:31:30 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey William, Why is it that you keep posting crap from or about Lyndon LaRouche? Are you a Neo-Nazi? He's a total freak and I can't imagine any sane person giving him his/her attention. Am I a neo-Nazi? Nope, thanks for asking though...not a neo,paleo,femi, or judeo-nazi. Are you suggesting that LaRouche is a "neo-nazi"? I think that's a reactionary and ill-informed statement if indeed you are. I post LaRouche because, though I disagree with him on several issues (drugs for example) I respect him and all he puts up with in order to see his vision through and when his writings aren't TOO obtuse he makes valid and interesting points. Bill.
[CTRL] Something Rotten In The State Of Israel
http://www.mediamonitors.net/index.html Something is Rotten in the State of Israel by Uri Avnery There is no international law against stupidity. Therefore, Karmi Gilon cannot be tried on this account. The foolish actions of the Ambassador-on-the-way (the way home) start with his agreeing to become the Israeli ambassador in Denmark in the first place. Denmark is a very sensitive country. For some reason, the Danes don’t like torture, nor do they like torturers. Why would a person who headed the Israeli Security Service (nicknamed Shin-Bet or Shabak, by its Hebrew initials), at a time when it practiced wholesale torture, insist on serving in Denmark of all places? Why should he not be content with the post of ambassador in Guatemala or the Congo? One could phrase it like this: Early in life a person must decide what he wants to become when he grows up. He can either become a Shin-Betnick or an ambassador to Denmark. He can’t become both. But Gilon accepted the job. That was folly #1. It was nothing compared to folly #2: After the outcry in Denmark had already started, Gilon undertook to explain to the slow-witted Danes that torturing Palestinians was not only extremely important, but also that the Shin-Bet would be well-advised to resort to it again (if indeed it has ever been stopped). The resulting outcry induced the Danish government to consider arresting His Excellency on arrival. The only diplomatic thing for the ambassador to do now is to break his leg diplomatically, so that he will be compelled to give up the post. If he does not do so voluntarily, Moderate Physical Pressure should be applied. This affair has another aspect that should be considered. On the morrow of the Six-Day War, the prophet Isayah (Leibowitz) prophesied that the occupation would turn us into a nation of foremen and Shin-Betnicks. This prophesy has been fulfilled. In other countries, Secret Service people work in the dark. Even after becoming pensioners, they keep quiet. But in Israel, they are elected to the Knesset, figure in the gossip columns, star in high society parties, shoot their mouths off in talk-shows and write commentaries in the papers. Now they are being sent abroad as ambassadors. And Foreign Minister Shimon Peres explains that Gilon, the great patriot, acted according to the laws of Israel and only followed orders. That tells the Danes that something is rotten in the state of Israel. "Only followed orders" sounds awful to people with a memory. The Danes, it seems, remember. It is to be hoped that the Gilon affair will put an end to these nominations. The slogan will be: Shin-Betnick, Stay Home! Parallel to the Gilon business, the Sharon affair is taking place in Belgium. This, too, has far-reaching implications. It started years ago, but nobody noticed at the time. General Amos Yaron, a star of the Sabra and Shatila affair, was sent as military attache to the United States and Canada. When the massacre occurred, Yaron was the commanding officer in the area. Elli Hbeika, the Phalangist commander, orchestrated the massacre from the roof of Yaron’s command post,. Yaron’s officers heard what was happening and reported to him. After the war, Yaron – to his credit – admitted that "our senses had become blunted". As military attache, Yaron did not encounter any difficulty in the States. But in Canada he hit a wall. The Canadians just did not want to see his face. He acted prudently and a scandal was avoided. Now he serves a Director General of the Ministry of Defense. His boss, Ariel Sharon, has never admitted to blunted senses. Even now, when proceedings have started against him in Belgium for his part in the Sabra and Shatila atrocities, he professes to be a righteous man. "This is not a personal matter," he told reporters, "It is a matter of the State of Israel." ("It is not a personal matter" has always been Sharon’s preferred stock-phrase.) Not a personal matter? A matter of the State of Israel? Very sorry, we are the citizen of Israel and it most certainly is not a matter of ours. We did not take a gang of certified murderers, who had already committed atrocities in half a dozen Palestinian camps, and put them into the defenseless Sabra and Shatila camps. We did not light the night for them, nor provide them with tractors to cover the bodies. If that was a war crime, it is a very personal affair of Sharon and his entourage. I object to the involvement of the legal apparatus of the state, led by the pussy-footing Attorney General, in Sharon’s defense in my name and at my expense. All these affairs have a common denominator: Something has changed in the world. The sooner this is understood in Israel, the better for many people, soldiers and functionaries. At the beginning of the new century, at long last, humanity has woken up and started to deal with war crimes, the bane of the 20th century. The international criminal court is on the
[CTRL] Martin- Sandbagged! Whistleblowers Beware
http://www.almartinraw.com/column30.html Sandbagged! Whistle-Blowers Beware by Al Martin Here's what happens to guests on the Expert Witness Radio Show, hosted by Michael Levine and broadcast on WBAI in New York and KPFK in Los Angeles, A brief history is in order. First, Mr. Levine postponed the show several times. Then his producer said that she would formulate questions to be asked about the new book, "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider." None of the questions were asked. Both his producer Kristina Borjesson and the host Mike Levine had received review copies of the book. There had been substantial discussions with the show's producer Kristina Borjesson but it became clear that Mr. Levine had not read the book and was not familiar with the material. He kept flipping through it, naming chapter titles, but you could tell he hadn't even bothered to read the book. Then Levine brings on his buddies, former DEA agents who are now private investigators, as is Levine himself. Essentially they did not refer to the book either. They asked no real questions about the content of the book, and they only mentioned the name of the book once. Also they kept using the word "alleged" -- as "I have alleged this" and "I have alleged that." I told them that the book was autobiographical in nature and it was simply the story of what I had done, i.e., my own role in Iran-Contra and other circumstances of my life. Since there was no second or third party information in the book, it wasn't really necessary to say "alleged" incessantly. Then they kept pressing me on how many documents I had and how much of this I could "prove in a court of law." I maintained that this was a radio show and not a court of law, that I was an author and not a prosecutor, and that these men were in fact radio talk show hosts and were not themselves prosecutors, and that they have no mandate from any government agency to be prosecutors. They were simply trying to pump me for information -- for their own ends. They have formed their own private investigative agency, according to information they posted on their website. Mr. Levine had said on his show that they had gotten "thousands of people indicted that should have been indicted, but weren't before for political reasons." I'm sure the public would be interested in seeing a list of the "thousands" of people that Mr. Levine et al have gotten indicted -- posted on Mr. Levine's website. Furthermore, they attempted to get me to reveal sensitive documents and file numbers on the public airwaves - without having any understanding whatsoever of my position -- that in fact, it is my holding of these documents and the fact that those who could be hurt by these documents do not know exactly what I do or do not possess. This has kept me alive and at large through these years. It's hard to believe that Mr. Levine did not understand this -- that by the incessant questioning of my criminal history (which I freely admitted and elaborated in detail) and the documents, which I may have, he has jeopardized me. Whistle-blowers then should beware -- because Mr. Levine has acted quite unprofessionally on this show. It was obvious that Ms. Borjesson was the tail wagging the dog. As producer of this show and its co-host, she asked me no direct questions during the show, and, on two occasions, had even attempted to tell her fellow co-hosts to move on. It was obvious from her tone that she was embarrassed by this shoddy display of unprofessionalism by Mr. Levine and his co-hosts. These former DEA agents were courteous, but they were incessant in asking the same question over and over again - questions regarding my criminal history and questions regarding the veracity of my information. I kept repeating that I am an author, that I'm not a prosecutor, that I'm not a witness, and that I don't intend to be a witness. I'm just telling my story. It was obvious by the line of questioning that Mr. Levine and Company have their own agenda - an agenda which goes far beyond being talk show radio hosts. That agenda appears to be to garner information from people like me in order to gain prosecutorial interest in others and thereby to gain potentially fee-paying clients for their new enterprise. Meanwhile they lead me to believe that this show was being publicly broadcast live, when in fact it was being recorded. I was not told until the end of the show that it was actually being taped for later broadcast. In other words, I didn't have the opportunity to fully defend myself from their badgering questions. They were able to steamroll me by making me believe that this was a live show. They obviously had no idea of who I am. It was also obvious that they did not understand the "complex quid pro quos" people like me have to enter into,
[CTRL] In 1947-48 Palestinians Became Victims
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/columnists/orl-opd-reese072601.col umn In 1947-48, Palestinians became victims Charley Reese Let's play let's pretend. Pretend you live in Miami-Dade County, Fla., and you evacuate the area because a bad storm is bearing down on it. After the storm passes, you drive back but are met by military roadblocks. "You can't come back," you're told. "What do you mean I can't come back? I have a home and business there," you say. "Not anymore," the soldier says. "All of your property and possessions have been declared abandoned property and now will be used by us. So turn around. You've got 49 other states you can live in, but you're never going to the home you abandoned." Now, let's pretend that after NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia, the Yugoslavian government said it was willing to negotiate a cease-fire, but the Albanian refugees could not return to Kosovo. Do you think the United States would have agreed to that? I don't think so. I think the United States would have said to Yugoslavia the right of refugees to return to their homes is non-negotiable and, if you try to stop them, you'll have to get through us first. Well, this is exactly what happened to 700,000 Palestinians in 1947-48. By what one journalist called a "psychological warfare campaign punctuated with some well-timed massacres," the Israelis drove these people out of their homes and villages with nothing much but the clothes on their backs. Then, at a peace conference, the Israelis said first off that no refugees would be allowed to return nor would they be compensated for any property lost. That was Israel's original sin. It was also our original sin because the United States government did nothing and it should have insisted on the refugees' return. Zionists, however, were not acting in an arbitrary manner. The Zionist ideology, on which the current state of Israel is based, demands a Jewish state defined as a state with a Jewish majority, a Jewish government and Jewish laws. Small, non-Jewish minorities can be tolerated, though in practice in Israel they have been treated like second-class people. But a plural state is out of the question. The problem the Zionists faced in 1947-48 was this: Despite their best efforts, they had not succeeded in persuading a sufficient number of Jews to emigrate to Palestine. Consequently, even in the territory allotted by the partition of Palestine to the Jews, there were so many Palestinian Arabs that the early Zionists knew they should soon equal or exceed the Jews in number. In 1919, there were 57,000 Jews and 533,000 Arabs in Palestine. The Jews owned about 2 percent of the land. In 1946, the imbalance remained. There were 608,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs. In 1946, Jews owned only 7 percent of Palestine. An Arab majority was unacceptable to Zionist ideology, so they practiced ethnic cleansing. So, for the same reason they drove them out in the first place, they could not let them back in. The Arab governments said if the refugees could not return, then they would not sign a peace treaty. This original sin -- the disposition of 700,000 Palestinians -- bred the conflict which rages to this day and will continue to rage until the Palestinians get justice or everybody on both sides are dead. I know that it's difficult. The Israelis have done a superb job of creating a racist stereotype of Palestinians in the minds of most Americans. But try, for a moment, to put yourself in their shoes back in 1947-48. You had a family, a farm or a business or shop. You had friends and relatives in a village where your ancestors had lived for centuries. Then, in the blink of an eye, you are torn from your roots and cast into a foreign country with no possessions, no money and no state you can call your own. These people and their descendants still live in those camps, at least those the Israelis haven't killed during their periodic bombing and shelling. These are the people Bill Clinton and Ehud Barak told Yasser Arafat that he must agree can never return or be compensated for their losses. That alone would have prevented Arafat from signing the agreement. It is this expulsion, not the establishment of the state of Israel, that Palestinians mean when they speak of the "Catastrophe." It was not only a cruel act of ethnic cleansing, but it was one of the greatest robberies in the history of mankind. Imagine if you could suddenly gain ownership of Miami-Dade, with all its businesses, inventories, bank accounts, houses, farms, and crops. Palestine was no Miami-Dade County, but the Palestinian possessions were nevertheless quite a pile of loot for the Israelis. This happened, by the way, before Jews left the Arab countries. It most defintely was not a population transfer. The Palestinian victims of ethnic cleansing had nothing to do with what happened to Jews in other Arab countries later.
[CTRL] CHANDRA, MONICA AND MCVEIGH
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:02:09 -0700 From: Brian Downing Quig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[CIA-DRUGS] CHANDRA, MONICA AND MCVEIGH To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Lederman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carol A. Valentine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: PRIMARY RESEARCH ASSOCIATES Sherman Skolnick brings up some interesting points about similarities of Monica Lewinsky and Chandra Levy, like the fact that Chandra's parents retained the same attorney that Monica's mother retained --- former federal prosecutor Billy Martin!!! He speculates that in Chandra's position (the pun is intended) she could have come upon sensitive McVeigh information that could well have threatened her life. If the AMERICAN public ever learned who really bombed the MURRAH BUILDING there would be wide scale revolt. It is hard to think of a better reason for elimination or for flight. Brian Downing Quig Sherman Skolnick's revelations and speculations: Some contend that Chandra Levy was also friendly with key Republicans, including reportedly a circle of White House types that include White House RESIDENT and OCCUPANT George W. Bush's strategy chief, officially listed as White House Senior Advisor, Karl Rove. Just as some began pursuing details reportedly of this circle, others started an apparent diversion of Karl Rove on a stock situation involving a conflict of interest. [9] Notice the time-line. Ms Levy, a graduate student at the University of Southern California, spent the winter and early spring here AS AN INTERN WITH THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS. DURING THAT TIME, a friend introduced her to Mr. Condit, who represents Modesto, Ms Levy's hometown. Her WASHINGTON INTERNSHIP ended on April 23. ON THE EVENING OF APRIL 30, she turned in her membership at a local health club, and the authorities say THAT WAS THE LAST TIME SHE WAS SEEN IN PUBLIC. ON MAY 6, her frantic parents, unable to reach her, REPORTED HER MISSING. New York Times, June 22, 2001 (Emphasis added.) May 6, 2001, was ten days prior to the original date set for McVeigh's execution. From their unit Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune ran the following story, Thursday, May 10, 2001: Washington--Federal law enforcement officials revealed Thursday that they had found some 3,000 pages of FBI materials that had been mislaid in the Oklahoma City bombing case, and defense attorneys for Timothy J. McVeigh immediately said they hope to win a stay of his execution scheduled in just five days. As the New York Times stated in referring to Ms Levy's parents meeting with the District of Columbia's police chief, The Levys, wearing yellow ribbons, looked dazed and tired as they met with reporters in the sweltering summer sun, both before and after their session with the chief. They said little, leaving most of the talking to THEIR LAWYER, BILLY MARTIN, former federal prosecutor WHO REPRESENTED MARCIA LEWIS, MOTHER OF MONICA S. LEWINSKY, during the inquiry into Ms Lewinsky's relationship with President Bill Clinton. NY Times, 6//22/2001 (Emphasis added.) Some find it helpful, if not convenient, though not necessarily crucial, that Condit is originally from Tulsa, Oklahoma. So, did Chandra Ann Levy know too much about the real background of the Timothy McVeigh matter? Through her FBI boyfriend, through her internship with the Federal Bureau of Prisons, and through her friendship with a Congressman, a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and having topmost security clearance? Did she run for her life? Was she caused to disappear? Persuaded to leave the U.S.? Or just snuffed out? Former intelligence operatives contend all this is important and urge further investigation. Are they right? The story is obviously incomplete but we believe it is an important start. More coming. Stay tuned. --- End of forwarded message --- Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS JUL 31
UNDERNEWS July 31, 2001 THE PROGRESSIVE REVIEW Editor: Sam Smith Washington's most unofficial source 1312 18th St. NW #502, Washington DC 20036 202-835-0770 Fax: 835-0779 REVIEW E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] REVIEW INDEX: http://www.prorev.com/ UNDERNEWS: http://www.prorev.com/indexa.htm REVIEW FORUM: http://prorev.com/bb.htm ESTIVATION MODE: During this languorous month, e-mail reports may be somewhat sporadic. The latest Undernews, however, is always available at http://prorev.com/indexa.htm or http://prorev.com/heads.htm WORD Everyone wants to breathe and nobody can and many say, We will breathe later, and most of them don't die because they are already dead. - Graffiti, Paris, May 1968 CHILE'S HIGH COURT APPROVES KISSINGER QUESTIONS REUTERS: Chile's highest court gave the green light to a judge wanting to question former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger about the 1973 killing in Chile of a U.S. journalist. Charles Horman, made famous in the 1982 film Missing, was seized by troops in his home days after Chile's September 1973 military coup that brought dictator Augusto Pinochet to power. His bullet-ridden body turned up at the morgue weeks later. Horman's family believes that Kissinger and U.S. Embassy officials in Chile knew of his detention but did nothing to obtain his release. Chile's Supreme Court said it would send a list of written questions to Kissinger about the case through diplomatic channels to U.S. legal authorities . . . State Department reports declassified last year show that U.S. intelligence officials may have tacitly helped in Horman's abduction. ASHCROFT HAS REPORTER JAILED FOR KEEPING NOTES PRIVATE Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY: Vanessa Leggett's case raises concerns that John Ashcroft may take protections away from journalists. The jailing of a Texas reporter who refused to give her research to U.S. prosecutors has raised concerns that Attorney General John Ashcroft is reversing a policy that gives journalists wide latitude in protecting confidential sources and unpublished information . . . The decision to jail Leggett, done at prosecutors' behest by an unidentified judge in a closed court hearing in Houston, has drawn criticism from press freedom . . . The Justice Department last had a reporter jailed in 1991, when four South Carolina journalists were locked up for eight hours when they refused to testify at the corruption trial of a state senator. Since 1973, the U.S. attorney general has been required to approve every federal subpoena issued to a reporter as well as every request by federal prosecutors to arrest a reporter. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washdc/july01/2001-07-30-reporter.htm We are particularly disturbed because the federal court and the Justice Department have kept every aspect of this case secret, said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. Had this journalist not sought help from journalism organizations prior to being sentenced for contempt, she would have been secretly jailed as well. . . . Leggett, who lectures at a local college, is a writer. She was working on a book on the death of a Houston woman, Doris Angleton, who was found shot to death in April 1997. Angleton's millionaire bookie husband Robert Angleton and his brother, Roger, were charged in the case. Roger committed suicide in the Harris County, Texas jail in February 1998. A state court jury acquitted Robert, and a federal investigation of Roger soon followed. Leggett had interviews from dozens of people surrounding the case, and it has been reported that she interviewed Roger before his death. REPORTER'S COMMITTEE BRIEF http://www.rcfp.org/news/documents/leggett.html THE IDEA MILL KEN KEUFFEL, WALL STREET JOURNAL on The seventh National Black Theatre Festival: As many as 50,000 patrons will take in plays, musicals, readings and seminars all over town. Actors who are just starting out will get to test their mettle on stage, often rubbing elbows with celebrities in the process. New plays will emerge, and old ones will gain valuable national exposure . . . The effects will be felt not just in Winston-Salem, though. The festival, which runs through Saturday, provides a much-needed infusion of energy for the nation's struggling black-theater scene. The number of black-theater companies in the country, professional and amateur, has decreased dramatically over the past 10 years. Victor Leo Walker, a former theater professor, runs the African Grove Institute for the Arts, a service organization for black theaters. He said that there were about 200 companies in the 1970s and '80s; now, there are fewer than 50. Moreover, companies that made their mark by developing the best acting and playwright talent - including Crossroads Theatre Company in New Jersey and the Inner City Cultural Center in Los Angeles - have gone under. Many others are operating in the red. Given that situation, the festival, which is the only one of its kind in the
[CTRL] OCT 13 SPACE ACTIONS UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 28/07/01 4:15:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From Global Network Against Weapons Nuclear: INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PROTEST TO STOP THE MILITARIZATION OF SPACE OCTOBER 13, 2001 NO THEATRE MISSILE DEFENSE! NO NATIONAL MISSILE DEFENSE! NO STAR WARS RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT! KEEP SPACE FOR PEACE! FUND HUMAN NEEDS! 1) Action des Citoyens pour le Desarmement Nucleaire (France) 2) Action for Nuclear Disarmament (Cape Cod, MA) 3) Action NOW! 4) Activist San Diego (California) 5) Alaska Community Action on Toxics (Anchorage) 6) Alaskans Against NMD 7) All India Letter Writers Association 8) American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) 9) Amnesty Int'l (USF, Tampa) 10) Antiwar.com 11) APDH Human Rights Organization (Bariloche, Argentina) 12) Arizona Institute for Peace Education Research (Tempe) 13) Asheville Area War Tax Resistance 14) Association of State Green Parties (ASGP) 15) Association of World Citizens 16) Atomic Mirror 17) Australian Anti-Bases Campaign Coalition 18) Australian Peace Committee 19) Baltimore Emergency Response Network 20) Baltimore Hiroshima-Nagasaki Commemoration Committee 21) Bangladesh Campaign to Ban Landmines (Dhaka, Bangladesh) 22) Bolton CND (UK) 23) Brandywine Peace Community (PA) 24) CAAB (UK) 25) Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (UK) 26) Cape Cod FOR (MA) 27) Catholic Action Network 28) Center for Social Action (Manhattanville College, N.Y.) 29) Central Coast Friends Meeting (San Luis Obispo, CA) 30) Central Coast Peace Environmental Council (San Luis Obispo, CA) 31) Centre for Peace Studies (University of Auckland, New Zealand) 32) Chester River Monthly Meeting (Chestertown, MD) 33) Christian Democrats USA (Tampa, FL) 34) Christians Opposing the Militarization of Outer Space (Louisville KY) 35) Citizens Budget Campaign of Western PA. 36) Citizens Democracy Watch (Florence, OR) 37) Citizens for Legitimate Government 38) Citizens for Peace in Space (Colorado Springs, CO) 39) Citizen Soldier (New York, N.Y.) 40) City of Arcata Nuclear Weapons Free Zone Commission (CA) 41) Cleveland Peace Action (Ohio) 42) Columbus Campaign for Arms Control (Ohio) 43) Communist Party USA 44) Community Anti-Nuclear Network of Western Australia 45) CPPAX - Nuclear Weapons Abolition Task Force (MA) 46) Darmstadter Friedensforum (Germany) 47) Disclosure Project 48) Ecological Life Systems Institute (San Diego, CA) 49) Environment Centre of the Northern Territory (Darwin, Australia) 50) Environmental Peace Education Center (Ft Myers, FL) 51) Fellowship of Reconciliation (Olympia, WA Chapter) 52) Florida Coalition for Peace Justice 53) Friends of the Earth Australia 54) Flyby News 55) Franciscan Sisters of Rochester, MN (Justice Peace Network) 56) Fylingdales Action Network (England) 57) Global Network Against Weapons Nuclear Power in Space 58) Global Resource Action Center for the Environment (New York) 59) Grandmothers for Peace Int'l 60) Grandmothers for Peace (San Luis Obispo County, CA) 61) Green Earth Organization (Ghana) 62) Green Party (Cuyahoga County, OH) 63) Green Party Florida 64) Greens (Lower Cape Cod, MA) 65) Greens (Mid Cape Cod, MA) 66) Greens (Upper Cape Cod, MA) 67) Greens/Green Party USA 68) Green Party of Brevard County (Florida) 69) Green Party of Hillsborough County (Florida) 70) Green Party of Manatee County (Florida) 71) Green Party of Michigan 72) Green Pary of Ohio 73) Green Party of Sarasota County (Florida) 74) Green Party of Scott County (Arkansas) 75) Green Party of Washington County (Arkansas) 76) Ground Zero Center for Nonviolent Action (Poulsbo, WA) 77) Headingley Green Party (UK) 78) Headingly Kirsktall CND (UK) 79) Healing Ourselves Mother Earth (Tecopa, CA) 80) High Desert Catholic Worker (Valyermo, CA) 81) Holland Peacemakers (Holland, MI) 82) Homes Not Bombs (Toronto, Canada) 83) Hopedance Magazine (San Luis Obispo, CA) 84) Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) 85) Impact Press (Orlando, FL) 86) Indian Institute for Peace, Disarmament Environmental Protection (Nagpur, India) 87) Initiative for Immediate Change in Energy Politics (Trier, Germany) 88) Int'l Association of Educators for World Peace 89) Int'l Center for Peace Justice 90) Int'l Parliament for Safety Peace (India) 91) Int'l Peace Bureau (Geneva, Switzerland) 92) Int'l Youth Student Movement for the U.N. 93) Iowa Peace Network (Des Moines) 94) Ithaca Coalition for Global Justice (New York) 95) Joan Russow, Global Compliance Research Project (Victoria, Canada) 96) Jonah House (Baltimore, MD) 97) Just Peace Committee (UCC) New Orleans 98) Korean Committee Against MD and for Peace 99) Latin American Circle for Int'l Studies (Mexico City) 100) Little Flower Catholic Worker (Goochland, VA) 101) Loretto Disarmament/Economic Conversion Committee 102) Los Alamos Study Group
[CTRL] Fwd: British Secret Service - The Rainbow scheme
The text below is excerpted from the much longer article. Amazing stuff. http://www.dipmat.unipg.it/~bartocci/ep2ded.htm The idea for this secret and farsighted course arose from the intense debate in England of the 1580's and 90's on war as the instrument for national security and expansion. It was becoming clear to men like William Cecil, his son Robert, the mathematician and intelligencer John Dee, scholar Hakluyt, Francis Walsingham, and Francis Bacon that England's future lay in overseas trade, expansion, inventions and that, because of its naval superiority, insular England - in the words of Bacon - is at liberty and may take as much and as little of the war as (it) will. The debate was a national one. Students and teachers at Oxford were debating in that decade among the usual Questiones Philosophicae such as Is Woman a nature's mistake?, Do many worlds exist?, also Can war be just for both sides?, Should one advocate war to promote national goals?, Is it wiser for a king to invade or [wait] to be invaded? The same issues - as we shall see - were discussed among lawyers and students of jurisprudence at Gray's Inn where Bacon worked in 1590's. In the intellectual atmosphere of the Elisabethan establishment these debates reflected and influenced the political struggle on the issue in the Court and the Privy Council between the peace party led by William and Robert Cecil and the war party led by Essex, Walter Raleigh and others. These argued as Essex did in May 1598 in his Apologia that Peace will encourage the enemy, A just war is our necessity, while the Cecils maintained what they always believed and acted upon, that War is a curse. In that month at one fiery Privy Council meeting the elder Cecil shut up Essex by reading to him prophetically from his pocket Bible about the men of blood dying prematurily, which Essex did of the axe at 32 in 1601. By 1604 under James I who succeeded Elisabeth in 1603 the issue was settled. Raleigh was in the Tower and Robert Cecil had negotiated for England a peace after 30 years of strife and war with Spain, a peace that helped to open her global ernpire to British trade. The Grandest Scheme Previous decipherers of the Rainbow, Frances Yates, Roy Strong and Rene Graziani, approached it as an expression of courtly eulogy, of a cult of Elisabeth or religious sentiment. For Elisabeth herself, her Privy Council, Court and establishment, these were the sweets and trifles whereas power politics, policy, knowledge, intelligence were the daily bread. For the men of the new Elisabethan generation such as Essex, Raleigh, Francis Bacon and others in the decade after the 1588 Armada defeat, the language of art and religion, if used at all, was at best a means to communicate, embellish or hide more ambitious political schemes. Theirs were the updated concerns of the previous generation's explorers, sea dogs like Drake, Cavendish, Hawkins, promoters of commerce like William Cecil and Gresham, intelligencers like Walsingham, Richard Hakluyt and John Dee. Their exploits and designs are described in great detail in Richard Hakluyt's The Principal Navigations, Voyages, Traffiques Discoveries of the English Nation, Made by Sea or Over-Land to the Remote and Farthest quarters of the Earth at any time within the compasse of these 1600 Years, published in London in 1589; in biographies of William Cecil, Thomas Gresham, Francis Walsingham, John Dee, Francis Drake and others. The aspiring minds of the new generation, as shown by R. Elser, saw the whole earth as England's imperial Oyster to be opened by Englishmen's intellectual, political, military, commercial and geographic grand schemes, mighty designs, romantic models, as they called them. They dreamed, in Raleigh's words to seek new worlds for gold, for praise, for glory. Such was Sherley's idea to close Suez to Spanish trade, Essex's plan to invade Spain, Robert Cecil's Grand Contract between King and Parliament. Such were Raleigh's colonial expeditions and searches for Eldorado, Bacon's goal for a total reconstruction of science, arts and all human knowledge to serve England and by it humanity. Most such ideas were, as a Venetian diplomat described Sherley's, Grand Scheme, Impossible to accomplish. The Rainbow, I suggest was the grandest scheme of all. Some time around the year 1600 cousins Francis Bacon and Robert Cecil, most probably with the knowledge of Elisabeth, were involved in the production of a farsighted statement of Pax Britannica and imperial strategy based not on war but on England's intelligence, espionage, science, and other might. Some of Elisabeth's portraits have one or two such strange features (the Phoenix, the Ermine, the Sieve, the Ditchley'). The Rainbow has three dozens of them. Why these unusual features? Why so many? What do they mean? Up to now art historians who tried have not been able to answer these questions. The Rainbow remains a mystery. FrancesYates, one of the most productive and
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Swapping lies: Fed and Treasury officials hanging themselves
8:50p ET Tuesday, July 31, 2001 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: The Treasury Department has replied to GATA's latest questions, through Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, and the answers are disappointing in the extreme. Treasury's reply was dated July 13 and signed by John M. Duncan, assistant secretary for legislative affairs. Duncan writes that the U.S. government has undertaken no gold swaps in the last 10 years. He declines to answer GATA's questions about the reclassification of the U.S. gold reserves at West Point. These questions, Duncan writes, have been referred to the Bureau of the Mint for a direct response. As for GATA's desire to know what U.S. policy on gold is, Duncan writes: The Treasury Department will continue to hold U.S. gold reserves and to value these reserves at $42. per ounce. If you believe that this response is the full extent of the thinking of the U.S. government on gold, I'd like to talk to you about buying a bridge in Brooklyn that I was unable to sell to Reg Howe at lunch today. Fortunately, as you'll see from his latest incisive essay, attached here, Reg and his remarkable discovery team have found more references to gold swaps in Federal Reserve minutes. The Fed does seem to talk a lot about these supposedly only mythical creatures. GATA will continue the hunt for them in the flesh, and, in this hunt, more letters to members of Congress, seeking a full and candid explanation of U.S. policy on gold, will be crucial. Along these lines, a GATA supporter has just sent to Kentucky Sen. Jim Bunning a letter that is so much to the point that I must share it with you here, for it shows what all of us have to do to try to engage our members of Congress in the gold issue: * * * Dear Senator: Forgive my not awaiting reply to earlier letters (Attachments 1 and 2) on the gold scandal that is slowly coming to light. I take seriously your inquiry into this key matter, and want you to benefit from recent research by recognized experts. With this in mind, I am enclosing the essay, What is Happening to America's Gold (Attachment 3), published by James Turk just last week. As you read Mr. Turk's analysis, I ask you to consider whether there is a giant coverup under way by those who have mishandled our national gold stockpiles and now seek to avoid detection. It is clear that the price of gold has been manipulated by a few public and corporate officials since the mid-90's. But it now also appears that their chief tool has become the illicit selling (or swapping) of U.S.-owned gold, and that records are being altered to shield these transactions from Congress and the public eye. A possible added means of price manipulation is an unapproved distribution of gold held by the International Monetary Fund, which Congress explicitly vetoed two years ago. Thank you, in advance, for continuing to pursue this critical issue. Sincerely, B.L. * * * Government officials can mislead and dissemble for a while in response to our correspondence, but if we can engage a few congressmen in the details and get some questions asked at congressional hearings, such misleading will start running risks. So let's keep at it. CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. --- Swapping Lies: Fed and Treasury Officials Hanging Themselves By Reginald H. Howe www.GoldenSextant.com August 1, 2001 Although the court case is not moving as swiftly toward discovery as some had hoped, neither my discovery team nor GATA's many supporters are remaining idle. Last week two GATA stalwarts, Mike Bolser and Dave Walker, working independently but for the common cause, came across another official reference to gold swaps, this time in the transcript of the minutes of the Federal Open Market Committee on March 26, 1991: http://www.federalreserve.gov/fomc/transcripts/1991/910326Meeting.pdf This reference came at the end of a lengthy discussion (pp. 8-21) concerning U.S. foreign exchange reserves, which are held in approximately equal portions by the Fed and the Exchange Stabilization Fund. The discussion began with a presentation by Samuel Cross, Manager for Foreign Operations, System Open Market Account, of the pros and cons of holding significant foreign exchange balances. On the negative side, Mr. Cross cited exchange rate risk, including unrealized but reportable losses on marking these positions to market in the Fed's financial statements. Addressing this problem, Chairman Alan Greenspan asked (p. 17): Is there not any mechanism by which we can create swaps or RPs or something of that nature in which essentially we have fixed the exchange rate of our holdings? In response, former Fed governor Wayne Angell suggested (p. 18): You could have an exchange of puts. In effect, you could swap puts and thereby assume that somebody would ultimately want to exercise that added advantage. Mr. Cross then observed (id.): It sounds like a forward exchange
Re: [CTRL] Kucinich to Introduce Legislation to Ban Weaponization of Space
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 27/07/01 2:01:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Cleveland) today announced his intention to introduce legislation to ban the weaponization of space. Tipical of a liberal. Wants to take the fun out of everything. Bet he stays up at night worring that there is someone, somewhere in the USA who is happy. BHoward = BHoward - Your non-sequitur reminds me of the following email exchange: == In a message dated 27/07/01 1:30:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Weaponization? And then using the same ugly neologism seven times in one news release? Time for voluntary simplicity and a return to natural beauty in language, too. = Better that than ugly weapons which will bring nuclear winter to Earth. Kucinich may be literally risking his life (political and otherwise) for this legislation. Try parsing the nuances of space-based weapons as opposed to weapons in space, which many non-American earthlings define as American missles traveling through space before they destroy our beautiful planet. There, just simple words this time. Are you American? Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC ;-) _ EcoNews Service: Always online for Ecology, Consciousness, and Universal Exopolitics EcoNews: http://www.ecologynews.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vancouver, BC V6M1V8 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Myths of a Palestinian Homeland
-Caveat Lector- Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/29/2001 9:48:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power. Darn it! I must really have a problem. I seem to recall that name in our big atlas at home, and I swear it was in a bunch of my text books when I was in school. What happened there? It was Palestine right up to the end of WWII, and then by magic it disappeared and became Israel. So now you are finally starting to get it. Things change. And not according to your view of how they SHOULD change. History is a long, long record of unfair changes. It was unfair of the Israelites to take Canaan. It was unfair of the Persians, Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, and others to take Israel. It was unfair of you White Christian devils to take the lands of indigenous peoples all around the world. Life is unfair Prudy. But you can start making it better. Instead of sticking you nose in the business of the peoples of the Mid-East, you can give your house to a deserving victim of your unfairness. Find a nice Indian family and turn your home over to them, and leave. It's only right. I didn't mind at the time, as I figured the people who lived there would just have to learn to spell a new word. I was wrong. The people who lived there were not allowed to live there any more, and the few who managed to hang on have been tormented ever since. It's really the only place where the Nazi won the war. Prudy You are SO full of shit. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A WJPBR Alert
-Caveat Lector- Guns Health Number of Physicians in the US: 700,000. Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000. Accidental deaths per physician: 0.171 (U.S. Dept. of Health Human Services) Number of gun owners in the US: 80,000,000. Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups): 1,500. Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.188 Statistically, Doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. Not everyone has a gun, but most people have at least one Doctor. Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand. As a Public Health Measure I have withheld the statistics on Lawyers for fear that the shock could cause people to seek medical aid. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Vietnam American Dog Tags
-Caveat Lector- This is a sad thing to discuss, but I feel that there may be a friend or relative of you or someone you know that did not come back from Viet Nam. Please look in on the following website and pass along to someone that might be interested. Dave Russell, CCPR Crestview, Fl On a recent Today Show there was a story about two men who went to Hanoi on a business trip. The men encountered a guy selling old GI dog tags from US servicemen who were killed during the Viet Nam War. They were disgusted by the thought of this man profiting from the sale of these tags. Upon returning to the U.S., they decided to go back to Viet Nam and purchase ALL the dog tags. They did so, paying 19 cents per tag! They brought home several hundred tags. The plan is to return the tags to surviving family members, when they can find them. The process has already begun with one set being turned over to a grieving Mom on July 4th, (coincidentally, it was on her birthday)! These two men have set up a website, http://www.founddogtags.com listing the names of all those whose tags they purchased. If you lost friends, family, or know of someone who lost a loved one in Viet Nam, I suggest you check out this website. If you recognize a name, there's an e-mail address to contact these two men and to help in their efforts to return the dogtag to it's rightful survivor. Family members would be eternally grateful to have such an important item returned. Please help by checking this website WWW.FOUNDDOGTAGS.COM A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 47 For America
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 47 For America By Chuck Baldwin July 31, 2001 One thing that both major political parties agree on is using American taxpayer dollars to subsidize left wing, totalitarian regimes around the world. This fact was demonstrated again last week when the House of Representatives voted to continue such foreign aid expenditures via the Export-Import Bank. The price tag for this appropriations bill is $816 million and funds projects such as nuclear power plants in China, General Electric plants in Mexico and a host of other globalistic, corporate welfare programs. In fact, the whole purpose of the Export-Import Bank is to subsidize foreign governments and international corporations doing business with foreign governments. When the vote was tallied, 40 Republicans, 6 Democrats and 1 Independent Congressmen voted for America. 375 Congressmen voted for more corporate welfare, more globalism and more socialism. Not an encouraging picture. It should be painfully obvious to everyone that both major parties are committed to helping international mega-corporations construct a global New World Order. Border restrictions between the United States and both Mexico and Canada are tumbling faster than the stock market. Both the Clinton and Bush White Houses were and are on a fast track to welcoming China into the World Trade Organization. Clinton and former Senate Majority Leader, Bob Dole, conspired to give us NAFTA and GATT. Bush is trying to figure out how he can legalize millions of illegal aliens and still convince people he is a conservative. Yes, Sir. When it comes to taking hard earned U.S. tax dollars and using them to prop up socialist governments and international banking cartels, there is virtually no difference between the two parties. The underlying problem, of course, is the love of money. No man can be a lover of wealth and a lover of liberty at the same time. Since World War II, however, wealth and freedom have been lumped together, as if they are synonymous. They aren't. Wealth is the fruit of freedom, not its root. To suggest otherwise is pure folly. Yet, globalist leaders such as G.W. Bush, Colin Powell and others constantly tell us that the pursuit of wealth in China, for example, will ultimately lead to that nation becoming free. Nonsense! Since pursuing trade with Communist China, persecution of Christians and political dissidents is up, not down. The chains of tyranny and oppression grow greater, not smaller. What we should be doing is pursuing freedom thereby providing the framework upon which prosperity can grow. Of course, liberty is predicated upon things like private gun ownership, strong national borders, limited state government and Biblical morality, all of which are anathema to the landlords of the new global village that both Republicans and Democrats are helping to construct. Therefore, out of 435 members of the House of Representatives, only 47 voted for America. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Strange Case Of The Judeo-Nazis
http://www.nationalbolshevik.com/spartacus/spartacusjudeonazis.html THE STRANGE CASE OF THE JUDEO-NAZIS "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland." -Yitzhak Greenbaum, Chairman of the Jewish Agency during World War II. "A man shot a bullet in the neck of my sister Salhiyeh, who was nine months pregnant. Then he cut her stomach, open with a butcher's knife." -testimony of an Arab survivor of the Zionist massacre at Deir Yassin, April 9, 1948 Many observers, including quite a few Jews, have noted the bizarre symbiotic relationship that Zionism has with Nazism and anti-Semitism. Zionist groups have used the fear of a Nazi resurgence to boost fundraising and to enforce internal discipline and national cohesiveness. The Nazi threat keeps the sheep in line and the shekels coming. Zionism is an irrational ideology, combining extreme Jewish chauvinism with the desire to suppress all other nationalisms. A Montreal Jewish poet and Zionist said it best: he hated the KKK and the Black Muslims not because they hated Jews, but because he was not allowed to join either organization. The same can be said of the Zionist fascination with National Socialism and Fascism. Vladimir-Zeev Jabotinsky, a contemporary of David Ben Gurion and founder of the 'Revisionist' wing of the Zionist movement, admired Mussolini and dressed up members of his group in brown shirts. According to Yossi Melman in his book,The New Israelis, some Revisionist Zionists went so far as to say, "had Hitler not been anti-Semitic, they would have supported his national-socialism." Jabotinsky also developed a 'fuhrer' cult by demanding his devotees worship him. Attempts by Israeli historians to downplay the influence of Revisionism, that it was an isolated extremist sect with no link to mainstream Zionism, is not borne out by the facts. Revisionism served as a vanguard of Zionism in Palestine. Both the Jabotinsky and Ben Gurion loyalists held very similar views, but disagreed at times on tactics. Often they coordinated a "good cop-bad cop" routine in dealing with Arabs and the international community, something which Israel continues to this with its Labour vs. Likud horse-and-pony show. Menachem Begin was a devotee of the Revisionist movement and commanded its 'Irgun' terrorist unit. Another Israeli prime-minister, Yitzak Shamir, was also a Irgun member and the father of the present prime-minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was a Revisionist as well. Despite its public show of "antifascism", the Zionist movement had no qualms about working with the Nazi government in Germany. Zionists bantered about the slogan, "Wear the yellow star with pride", and generally approved of Hitler's anti- assimilation policies in the early days. The Jewish Agency for Palestine, Ben Gurion's "mainstream" Zionist organization, held extensive talks with Nazi Party functionaries over the issue of creating a Jewish "homeland". The Nazis even issued a medal to commemorate the event, with both the Swastika and the Star of David on it! Another inconvenient Jewish overture to Nazism revolved around the Zionist terrorist group called LEHI (Fighters for the Freedom of Israel), better known as the 'Stern Gang'. Formed in 1940 as a more radical offshoot of the Revisionists, LEHI held secret talks with German Nazi and Italian Fascist diplomats in Beirut. LEHI terrorists wanted to form an alliance with the Axis powers in order to expel the British from Palestine. Former Israeli prime-minister, Yitzhak Shamir, was a leading figure in LEHI after he left Irgun. The Zionists claim a "moral right" to Palestine because of the catastrophe that befell European Jewry during the Second World War even though the Palestinians had nothing to do with this catastrophe in the first place. This Zionist claim, of course, is absurd. Zionist settlement in Palestine did not begin after World War II in response to the Holocaust, but in 1882. Furthermore, the Zionists have no "moral right" because they openly sought alliances with Hitler and Mussolini and even developed a debased form of Jewish 'Fascism' whose direct lineal descendent is the ruling 'Likud' party in Israel. And what about the Israeli Army, whose special units were built around Irgun and LEHI terrorists? Have they not committed the same type of atrocities the Zionists self-righteously accused the SS and Gestapo of engaging in?
[CTRL] 30 July 2001 Federalist Edition #01-31
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! THE FEDERALIST(r) BRIEF The Conservative e-Journal of Record * Veritas Vos Liberabit * 30 July 2001 Federalist Edition #01-31 Monday Brief *To purchase a book from the Patriot's Library, link to -- http://www.federalist.com/books.asp *To support or sponsor and edition of The Federalist, link to -- http://www.Federalist.com/support.asp __O__ PUBLISHER'S NOTE Now, all three parts of each week's edition of The Federalist are available in printer-friendly HTML and PDF formats. If you are tired of reading e-mail text, check out today's edition in another format at the link below. You will find the new formats much easier reading than e-mail text! (Also, beginning next week, you will be able to go to our site and select the format you want by e-mail -- if you want something other than e-mail text.) Visit -- http://www.Federalist.com/current2001.asp CONTENTS: The Foundation Insight Good News ICTUS Imprimis Family Culture Liberty Opinion in Brief Editorial Exegesis The Gipper Government On the Left Political Futures For the Record Policy Pages Reader Comments The Top Ten __O__ THE FOUNDATION God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are a gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever. --Thomas Jefferson __O__ INSIGHT An open mind, in questions that are not ultimate, is useful. But an open mind about ultimate foundations either of Theoretical or Practical Reason is idiocy. If a man's mind is open on these things, let his mouth at least be shut. --C.S. Lewis __O__ GOOD NEWS I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live. (Deuteronomy 30:19) ++ And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your father served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. (Joshua 24:15) ++ Be strong and of good courage; do not be afraid, nor be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go. (Joshua 1:9) ++ The Lord is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer. (2 Samuel 22:2) ++ Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall, but those who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint. (Isaiah 40:30-31) ++ Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the Lord of hosts. (Zechariah 4:6) [All verses NKJV ] __O__ ICTUS IMPRIMIS The protective fence that surrounded even agnostics in past centuries was rooted in the principles of the Ten Commandments and the philosophy and instructions of the Beatitudes. But we aborted those principles and now we abort ourselves. Soon, with no controlling moral authority, we will euthanize the elderly and the handicapped. At each stage, we will be consoled that we are doing good. --Cal Thomas __O__ FAMILY All too often, those demanding their rights are visible, while those whose rights may be abridged must be imagined. Fairness demands a balancing of conflicting rights. To achieve this requires the recognition that a balance is necessary, plus a bit of imagination. That is, fairness requires effort, not merely unthinking sympathy for those who are shown to us on TV. This is especially true when those who are invisible include children, crime victims, the elderly, and others less able to ask for their own rights. The invisible are not insignificant, and they too have rights. --David C. Stolinsky __O__ CULTURE The American culture is journeying through muck and smut, looking for lower ground, not of necessity but of depravity. Unless we change course, and soon, our destination is either moral anarchy and social chaos, or the surrender of all our freedoms to Big Brother in exchange for his promise to protect us from ourselves. --Linda Bowles __O__ LIBERTY Americans need to be especially on guard against moves against free speech and their right to keep and bear arms. The purpose of passing hate-crime legislation is simply to lay the predicate for passing hate-speech laws. ...Freedom and compulsion are contradictions. ..What the present generation must do is guard against the growing trend toward more authoritarian government. Government
[CTRL] Week Ending: 28 July 2001/8 Av 5761
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Tzemach News Service -- A weekly update of news and events regarding the nation and the people of Israel Week Ending: 28 July 2001/8 Av 5761 Awake, awake, clothe yourself in your strength, O Zion; Clothe yourself in your beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city. For the uncircumcised and the unclean will no more come into you. Shake yourself from the dust, rise up, O captive Jerusalem; Loose yourself from the chains around your neck, O captive daughter of Zion. [Isaiah 52.1-2] Highlights Of This Week: :: THIRD TEMPLE CORNERSTONE CAUSES TERROR AND FEAR :: YESHA RABBIS FOR TEMPLE MOUNT :: PA/PLO ISSUES YESHA HIT LIST :: WHO IS REALLY RESPONSIBLE? :: SETTLEMENT SITE OF THE WEEK :: US PRESSURING ISRAEL TO START COUNTING :: IT'S TIME FOR MARTYR SUMMER CAMP AGAIN :: IDF STRIKES IN GAZA :: ON THE NORTHERN FRONT :: THE BLESSING OF THE L-RD :: THIRD TEMPLE CORNERSTONE CAUSES TERROR AND FEAR: On Wednesday, 25 July, the Israeli Supreme Court decided that the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement would be allowed on Sunday to bring the cornerstone for the Third Temple to the area of the southern Hulda Gates of the Temple Mount which was the main entrance for the First and Second Temple. The Court denied the petition by the Temple Mount Faithful to enter the Temple Mount to pray and lay the cornerstone on the Temple Mount. The plan to bring the cornerstone to the area near the Temple Mount has stirred the Muslims and many nations as well. Palestinians warned on Saturday that attempts to carry the 4.5-ton stone into the compound on Sunday would outrage Muslims. PLO leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction called for a day of rage on Sunday. (Just to make sure he is safe, Arafat's office said he would leave Gaza for a one-day visit to Morocco on Sunday for talks with King Mohammed on the security situation.) The Prime Minister's Office and the Foreign Ministry Saturday held talks with the governments of the United States, Egypt, Jordan and a number of European countries, and asked them to use their influence on the Palestinian Authority [PA/PLO] to prevent unrest during the ceremony. A senior member of the Waqf [Islamic authority on the Temple Mount] has warned the government: We will react with a violent and harsh response never before experienced by the Israelis, because from our point of view, the Temple Mount is the crossing of a red line and no Muslim will allow it to be touched. Go through, go through the gates; Clear the way for the people [Isaiah 62.10a] The cornerstone can be seen on the Temple Mount Faithful's Web site located at: http://www.templemountfaithful.org/. An advertisement jointly signed by the Yesha Council of Jewish Settlements of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District, the headquarters of the Temple Mount Faithful and Ha'Mikdash movements, and the council of Yesha rabbis calls on the public to gather Saturday afternoon around the gates to the Temple Mount for a prayer session. Jews, prime ministers and their ministers have closed the gates of redemption to their people; they have denied their G-d; they have denied their temples, the advertisement reads. This is what caused the destruction of the land. We won't be partners of leaders who block gates and make treaties with the enemy, who imagined finding peace and found shame instead. Against the will of the miserables of Zion, ministers, judges and Torah sages, the gates to the Temple Mount will be opened with the grace of G-d, and all lovers of Zion will go up to the mountain of G-d. The U.S. State Department issued a public announcement Friday placing the entire city of Jerusalem off limits to Embassy staff and their dependents from Friday, July 27 through Sunday, July 29. :: YESHA RABBIS FOR TEMPLE MOUNT: The Rabbinical Council of Judea, Samaria and Gaza recently called on all rabbis to bring their communities to visit the Temple Mount - in accordance with halakha (religious law) - and it urged the Israel public to do the same. This is the first time a group of rabbis representing a substantial segment of the religious Zionist public has ruled it is permissible for Jews to ascend the Temple Mount, as long as certain areas are avoided. Most leading Torah sages have ruled that Jews are not allowed on the mount at all, lest they accidentally tread on the sites to which they would have been forbidden entry when the Temple was standing. The rabbis plan to ask the Yesha Council of Jewish settlements to organize mass trips to the mount from the settlements. Rabbi Dov Lior of Kiryat Arba noted that the rabbis will have to prepare maps of the mount to show Jews where they may go and where they are halakhically forbidden to walk. Rabbi Yitzhak Shilat of Ma'aleh Adumin added that since religious law does permit Jews to visit certain areas of the mount, our right, obligation and ability to pray on the
[CTRL] another American Mengele
-Caveat Lector- http://www0.mercurycenter.com/local/center/orphan061101.htm http://www0.mercurycenter.com/local/center/orphan061001.htm http://www0.mercurycenter.com/premium/nation/docs/016334.htm http://www0.mercurycenter.com/local/center/orphans0614.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Mideast War Alert
-Caveat Lector- Hold on there, Dale. Larouche is a self-proclaimed anti-semite. Calling him a neo-nazi is no huge leap of the imagination. You call my opinions convenient labels, But they are just that: my opinions. You seem to have no trouble expressing your own(religious fanaticism is Bad, it's Bad.), so don't get too self-righteous if I do the same. My dog is stupid, she comes in from outside and shits on the floor. She really is stupid, convenient label or not. Some things deserve a label and I believe that LaRouche is indeed a FREAK! And Mary, go ahead and reread the article again and again; memorize it for all I care. It still won't be anything but garbage. From: Dale Stonehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Mideast War Alert Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 07:19:49 -0500 -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: ashley Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Mideast War Alert Hey William, Why is it that you keep posting crap from or about Lyndon LaRouche? Are you a Neo-Nazi? He's a total freak and I can't imagine any sane person giving him his/her attention. Ashley Ashley, There may be a lot of things you can't imagine; none of them require your belief to exist, however. Neo-Nazi and freak are convenient labels; however, as I have said many times on this list, when labeling begins, thinking stops. LaRouche is a political radical and may be a bit over-fearful. Then again he may just know more than the rest of us. Even a small amount of balanced research shows that whether you agree with LaRouche or not his economic models and mathematical background go far beyond the average individual. The main difference between LaRouche and others is his fanaticism is more political and economic and less religious. I guess I prefer any type of fanaticism other than religious. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Privacy Not
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Privacy Not -Caveat Lector- you came up with an original word no i didn't. 'twas a simple test to assess your understanding of the subject you speak so authoritively. unsurprisingly, you fail. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om