[CTRL] Panel: More Terror Data Than Thought
-Caveat Lector- This is what the mass media is now reporting. It went from Bush knew to who knew? to the FBI knew to the CIA knew to the CIA says it told the FBI to the FBI says it didn't get information from the CIA to the FBI can spy on anyone for any reason without a warrant to Congress will go ahead with its investigation to oh, wow, there's so much data ... this will take a long time ... and now there are stories that the mastermind is a Kuwaiti, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who masterminded the attacks (see last paragraph). Wait ... I thought Osama masterminded the attacks? What happened to that assertion? In another wire story, it mentions nothing about Osama masterminding the 9-11 attacks, but it added that a tape of a dinner party proved that he knew about them. Remember that tape? That hasn't been mentioned in a while. It was about the least plausible of any of the evidence the US has pulled out of its ... er, hat ... to implicate Osama as the mastermind. Now he's not even that. Oh, but he knew! Well, yeah, but SO DID THE FBI, THE CIA, and who knows who else? Dubya will probably be out of office before the smoke clears. And nobody touches an ex-president - they achieve this impervious status at that point, oh noble statesmen that they are considered at that point. Not Nixon. Not Reagan. Not a damn one of 'em. But maybe the floodgates haven't yet been closed by a wall of obfuscation. Maybe ... - jt -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20020605/ap_on_go_co/attacks_intelligence_22 Panel: More Terror Data Than Thought Wed Jun 5, 1:41 AM ET By KEN GUGGENHEIM, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - Faced with tens of thousands of documents and more coming in every day, leaders of a congressional inquiry into the Sept. 11 attacks say they are dealing with much more information than they anticipated. But they said they didn't want that to delay their inquiry. We can do this while the war on terrorism is going on because if we don't, we think the mistakes of the past will be revisited, said Sen. Richard Shelby (news, bio, voting record), R-Ala., a strong CIA (news - web sites) critic and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Shelby spoke Tuesday after the House and Senate intelligence committees began an extraordinary joint inquiry into the intelligence lapses that preceded Sept. 11 and how future terrorist attacks can be prevented. I think we're going to find that a lot of things were not done right by the CIA, the FBI (news - web sites), INS and perhaps other agencies, Sen. Jon Kyl (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., said. Some of this is pretty serious and it will suggest ways we need to change. Kyl said the joint committee already has interviewed Minnesota FBI agent Coleen Rowley, who says FBI headquarters ignored her office's pleas in the weeks before Sept. 11 to aggressively investigate Zacarias Moussaoui, now charged as an accomplice in the suicide hijackings that killed more than 3,000 people. Rowley is to testify publicly on Thursday before the Senate Judiciary Committee (news - web sites). No witnesses appeared at Tuesday's closed-door hearing in a tightly guarded room of the Capitol, where lawmakers agreed on a series of goals and how they would conduct the investigation. At a news conference afterward, leaders of the intelligence panels stressed bipartisan cooperation and promised to look for facts, not scapegoats. Sen. Bob Graham (news, bio, voting record), D-Fla., chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said there were three basic goals: One, to lay out for the American people what happened prior to and on Sept. 11. Two, what does it mean? And three, then advocate to the American people and our colleagues the necessary reforms. The House intelligence chairman, Rep. Porter Goss (news, bio, voting record), R-Fla., said the joint committee's staff was sifting through millions of words from documents and had interviewed about 200 witnesses. The good news, Goss said, is we're getting great cooperation, great access. The bad news is there's lots more information to deal with than we thought when we started. But we'll get through that. Further complicating the inquiry is that staff director Eleanor Hill began work only on Monday. Her predecessor, L. Britt Snider, was forced to resign in April. Loch K. Johnson, assistant to Sen. Frank Church's 1975 investigation of the CIA, said Goss and Graham appear to be rushing the investigation. It takes a good month to a month and a half to get staff, a month and a half to get questions and a list of the people you want to interview, then trying to make sense so you can craft some recommendations, said Johnson, author of Bombs, Bugs, Drugs and Thugs, a book about intelligence agencies. The hearings follow recent news reports that the FBI and CIA failed to respond adequately to warning signs of possible terrorist activity before Sept. 11, including the Moussaoui arrest and information developed
[CTRL] FBI Biting Hands
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.newsday.com/ }}}Begin http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-nybres042731219jun04.column COMMENTARY FBI Slaps Helping Hand Jimmy Breslin June 4, 2002 Sometime last fall, the FBI ran ads asking for people who could speak Middle Eastern languages. This was at least a scandal. We had just been attacked by Arabs and were going to wage war on an Arab country and hardly anybody on our side could speak Arabic or any other Middle Eastern language. Around the United Nations in New York everybody says that this bin Laden has the best translators anywhere and the United States is comical. When Rumsfeld announces that we have captured bin Laden's hard drives, he can't give you the names of the people who can read them. He can't because most of the time there isn't anybody. Forever, the FBI was afraid of anybody not milk-white Catholic. Fear of the least swarthiness was only normal. There was a day in 1960 when Robert F. Kennedy was named attorney general and asked immediately how many agents of color the FBI had, John Edgar Hoover came out of the building, looked at his black chauffeur and said, Report upstairs and get a special agent's badge. You're not driving anymore. He then could inform the attorney general's office that the FBI had at least one black agent in the home office. This time, the lack of people who speak the languages of the Middle East was worse. It got people killed. The day the ad asking for translators ran, I saw a woman I know at the corner newsstand and I told her about it. She was born in Iran, raised on the Farsi language and attended the University of Tehran. I'll look at it, she said. I want to do something. I saw her a couple of days later and she said that she was thinking of going to the FBI office and volunteering as a translator. I told her that I thought she'd be terrific. She had kids to worry about, but she thought that she and her husband could figure that out. That she had been raised in Farsi was a tremendous asset. Besides Iranians, people in the north of Afghanistan speak Farsi. She arrived in the morning at the FBI offices, ready to volunteer for her country. First, an agent escorted her to an office, where they let her sit. She got up and right away an agent wanted to know what she wanted. She said she wanted to go to the ladies' room. The agent escorted her there, waited in the hallway and escorted her back to the room. She was told that her background had to be checked. That was fine. She has been married forever to a guy who is in government law enforcement. The background check took a couple of months. She was called down there one day over some form or other and while she was there she said to the watchful agent: Can I get coffee? No. Then could you get me a cup of coffee? That's not going to happen. Good FBI language. It was a couple of months later when I saw her on the street and asked her how it was going and she said that she hadn't heard from their background check yet. Her husband is known in the law business and she wouldn't even tell me the building she went to for appointments with the FBI. We were talking on St. Patrick's Day. You go a couple of more months and then one day she told me that they had asked her to come down to the FBI office and take a language test. Couldn't they just talk to you and find out? Or don't they have anybody who can talk the language to give a test? The test turned out to be long and demanding, in that the language being used on the examination paper was a half notch removed from any Farsi she had used growing up and attending college. It was a test in Farsi put out by some professor in a college who never had been one foot off the North American continent. They told her that she had not passed. This was like failing a test on Queens if you're born in Elmhurst. But then a note came that they still wanted her to come to work. Her troubles with the FBI exam were similar to those of Geoff D. Porter, who teaches Middle Eastern studies at New York University. He writes, The Arabic language test - copyrighted in 1994 by the Defense Language institute - was solely in Modern Standard Arabic ... this is the form used for official speeches and in the news media in Arab countries - but almost never in conversation. It differs substantially from the spoken varieties of Arabic in vocabulary, syntax and idiom - enough so that a non- native speaker who learned only Modern Standard Arabic would not be able to understand Arabic speakers talking to one another. Now, it is at least seven months since she volunteered to help her country. It has taken so long because the FBI is lazy and inefficient and the more you see of them at work, the more you wonder how you can reorganize them. Finally, she was asked to come down for another test, and when she walked into the office, she knew things were different. No agent escorted her as she walked to the room. The test consisted of sitting
Re: [CTRL] Air Force colonel suspended ...
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Jun 2002 at 20:13, William Shannon wrote: Air Force colonel suspended after bad-mouthing Bush Actually he is a LIEUTENANT Colonel which makes things a little different. Another thing to watch out for in the news is the loss of nuance. Makes a whole lot of difference in the real world. AER A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] For some, Fooled = Feeling Good
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,727351,00.html }}}Begin Probability proves your horoscope correct Paul Webster in Paris Wednesday June 5, 2002 The Guardian A Nobel prize may not be essential to becoming a modern mystic, but it helps. Georges Charpak, the physics prizewinner in 1992, has co-authored a rapid guide to becoming a fakir or astrologer and making a fortune by bamboozling a gullible public. His co-author, Henri Broch, who runs a paranormal research unit at Nice University, went through sessions of firewalking and tongue-piercing to prove that all mystic arts were based on trickery, natural circumstances or mathematical probability. Devenez Sorciers, Devenez Savants (Become Wizards and Wise Men) is a best seller because so many want to learn telepathy, levitation, horoscope-casting, water divining and metal-bending. Mr Charpak said his attempt to debunk mysteries by applying the laws of probability had left many unconvinced. I have been inundated with letters saying I interviewed the wrong astrologers from people who claim their personal fortune tellers had been right. Fooling people is easy, he said: just generalise. When a single astral chart was used to define the individual characters of students, 69% were convinced it was accurate: a better result than analyses by professional psychologists. Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2002 End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no automatic endorsement + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] I Will Bear Witness
-Caveat Lector- The following is the Amazon.Com information on a set of books that is interesting from a Judahist standpoint during the indicated years. What is of especial interest is the perpsectives about Zionising during that period. (I'm only up to 1936 but even in the early years, there are points of view that are shared with the current times.) AER From http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0375753788/ref=ase_addallbooksearch/0 02-9872843-3087248 }}}Begin I Will Bear Witness : A Diary of the Nazi Years 1933-1941 by Victor Klemperer, Martin Chalmers (Translator) I Will Bear Witness : A Diary of the Nazi Years 1942-1945 by Victor Klemperer, Martin Chalmers (Translator) see larger photo List Price: $14.95 Our Price: $10.47 You Save: $4.48 (30%) See All New: from $10.00 See All Used: from $5.75 Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours Edition: Paperback | All Editions Editorial Reviews Amazon.com When the Nazis came to power in 1933, Victor Klemperer (1881-1960), honored as a frontline veteran of World War I, was a distinguished professor at the University of Dresden. A scant few months later he was merely a Jew, protected from deportation to a death camp only by his marriage to an Aryan. He suffered every other indignity to which German Jews were subjected, from losing his job to having his driver's license revoked to being denied permission to own a pet, and all are recorded with bitter clarity in his diary entries, which cover the years 1933 to 1941. (A second volume continuing through 1945 will be published in English in 1999.) The German edition of this book caused a sensation when it was published in 1995, and it's easy to see why: the relentless, quotidian nature of Nazi racism comes through forcefully in Klemperer's litany of daily humiliations and insults, a painful chronicle of situations in which readers can readily imagine themselves. Like Anne Frank, but with a more adult understanding of political fanaticism and human weakness, he makes the abstract horror of genocidal persecution very intimate, very personal, and very real. -- Wendy Smith End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no automatic endorsement + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Heads-Up To Ashcroft Proves Threat Was Known Before 9/11
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/06/03/hsorensen.DTL Heads-Up To Ashcroft Proves Threat Was Known Before 9/11 by Harley Sorensen Special to SF Gate Monday, 3 June, 2002 Don't let them fool you, folks: They knew. They might have been surprised by the ferocity of the attacks, but the highest-ranking members of the George W. Bush administration knew before Sept. 11 that something terrible was going to happen soon. Bush knew something was going to happen involving airplanes. He just didn't know what or exactly when. His attorney general, John Ashcroft, knew. His national security advisor, Condoleezza Rice, knew. They all knew. And, in spite of its apparent ineptness, the FBI knew, too. Not only did they all know, but they told us. Obliquely. And we didn't pay attention. Why would we? Then, as now, terrorist threats were a dime a dozen. Is this my opinion? No, it's published fact. On July 26, 2001, cbsnews.com reported that John Ashcroft had stopped flying on commercial airlines. Ashcroft used to fly commercial, just as Janet Reno did. So why, two months before Sept. 11, did he start taking chartered government planes? CBS News correspondent Jim Stewart asked the Justice Department. Because of a threat assessment by the FBI, he was told. But neither the FBI nor the Justice Department ... would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it, CBS News reported. The FBI did advise Ashcroft to stay off commercial aircraft. The rest of us just had to take our chances. The FBI obviously knew something was in the wind. Why else would it have Ashcroft use a $1,600-plus per hour G-3 Gulfstream when he could have flown commercial, as he always did before, for a fraction of the cost? Ashcroft demonstrated an amazing lack of curiosity when asked if he knew anything about the threat. Frankly, I don't, he told reporters. So our nation's chief law enforcement officer was told that flying commercial was hazardous to his health, and yet he appeared not to care what the threat was, who made it, how, or why? Note that it was the FBI that warned Ashcroft before Sept. 11. That's the same FBI now claiming it didn't connect the dots before Sept. 11. Had we in the press been on our toes, we might have realized that if flying commercial posed a threat to John Ashcroft, it also posed a threat to the population at large. But the CBSNews.com story was largely ignored. CBS ran it once, briefly. A number of CBS affiliates repeated the story, even more briefly. That was it. As near as I can tell, no other major news outlet ran the story of a danger to commercial air travel so severe that our attorney general was told to stay away from it. When the furor broke recently over who knew what, or when, President Bush chose his words carefully. Had I known that the enemy was going to use airplanes to kill on that fateful morning, he said, I would have done everything in my power to protect the American people. Note the phrase, use airplanes to kill. It suggests he thought the bad guys were going to use airplanes in some other way, perhaps, for example, as a trading chip to win the release of those responsible for the first World Trade Center bombing. On Sunday talk shows recently, Condoleezza Rice used similar language, indicating Bush had known ahead of time that terrorists were about to attack. She didn't say that, of course, but her careful use of language suggested that Bush knew trouble was brewing but simply didn't know the extent of it. On July 5, 2001, according to a recent Washington Post article, the White House called together officials from a dozen federal agencies to give them a warning. Something really spectacular is going to happen here, and it's going to happen soon, the officials were told by the government's top counterterrorism official, Richard Clarke. Clarke considered the threat sufficiently important to direct every counterintelligence office to cancel vacations and get ready for immediate action, the Post reported. Several senators, including Dianne Feinstein, have called for a full-fledged investigation into what the government knew before Sept. 11. Incredibly, the Bush people are saying they don't want to be bothered by yet another investigation. Asking questions and demanding answers will help the terrorists, they say. Even more incredibly, the public is buying it. The public's gullibility knows no bounds. Recently, the families of the people who died on Flight 93 on Sept. 11 were allowed -- finally! -- to hear the final 30 minutes of the cockpit voice recorder on that flight before it crashed in Pennsylvania. But they weren't allowed to record it or even take notes. Why? Because (they were told) the tape might be used in evidence against Zacharias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker. Is there even a dollop of logic in that explanation? It's like saying we can't watch video of the planes crashing into the World Trade
[CTRL] Summer Camp
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?strwebhead=Summer+Israel+programs+in+j eopardyintcategoryid=4 }}}Begin Lack of teens for Israel trips puts programs future in jeopardy End{{{ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FBI {Freeh Be It}
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/6/4/190547.shtml }}}Begin Reprinted from NewsMax.com On 9-11, It Was Still Freehs FBI Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com Wednesday, June 5, 2002 No matter what their politics, many will agree that on Sept. 11, it was still essentially Louis Freehs FBI. In the aftermath of Sept. 11, Freeh has been almost an anonymous figure, as far as the media are concerned. Still, Freeh, a former bureau agent, prosecutor and federal judge, has been the most influential FBI director since J. Edgar Hoover. And it was Freeh who had been at the helm of the nations premier law enforcement agency for more than eight years, compared to the mere days of tenure for newcomer Robert Mueller. But what kind of FBI was Louis Freehs? What might surprise some is that remember, this was after the first bombing of the World Trade Center it was well-funded and clearly understood terror pre-emption as job one. Bill Clinton's 'Best Possible Person' Freeh had been launched as director in 1993 as Bill Clintons golden boy, the best possible person to head the FBI as it faces new challenges and a new century. Clinton critics noted at the time of Freehs appointment that former U.S. attorney Robert Fiske had put forth Freehs name to Clinton legal counsel Bernard Nussbaum. Janet Reno Again That Fiske was later appointed by then-Attorney General Janet Reno as the special counsel to investigate Clinton, Nussbaum and the Clintons Whitewater dealings made some Republicans jittery about Fiskes and Freehs impartiality. At the time of Freehs 1993 installation, Clinton emphasized that the FBI operates in a new and challenging world. Terrorism once seemed far from our shores, an atrocity visited on people in other lands. Now, after the attack on the World Trade Center, we know that we, too, are vulnerable. Brave new beginnings for a brave new FBI, but a refrain that is now all too similar to the latest promised renaissance of the bureau. Today, Freeh heads personnel and security for the Delaware credit card company MBNA Corp., a prosaic position for the former top G-man. Spurned by New Jersey Surprisingly, Freeh missed the cut to be head of New Jerseys homeland security task force, a post made all the more sensitive because of the unhappy fact that some of the 9-11 plotting and recruiting went on in the Garden State. Despite Freehs infamous computer illiteracy (he never used e-mail) and the introduction of an expensive but faulty computer system on his watch that contributed to the Timothy McVeigh file debacle and a one-year backup at the FBIs crime lab, the bank security executive now sings the praises of those same magic computer boxes as the key tools of the anti-terror trade. Last month at a speech in Cleveland, for instance, Freeh chortled over the digital age, as if enthralled with a new toy. He noted with wonder that the Internet was an amazing resource for bomb recipes, some made with easily obtained ingredients. We know that the potential for use of these weapons is enormous, he confided. The Patriot Act is a mild response to the terrorist threat, considering the countrys mood, he added. Just a month after the Sept. 11 attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon, Freeh lamented in a speech to security industry executives that investigators lacked the ability to decipher encrypted messages on the Internet and needed legislation to compel software companies that manufactured encryption programs to unlock the messages secrets. Freeh and Zacarias Moussaoui In a choice of anecdotes now sublimely ironic because of the recent Zacarias Moussaoui laptop tale of bungled opportunities, Freeh described how Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, convicted in the 1993 bombing of the WTC, disclosed to the FBI a plot to place bombs aboard 11 U.S. air carriers flying over the Pacific Ocean, plans to assassinate the pope, and a terror attack scenario featuring poison-laced explosives planted in the WTC. Yousefs maniacal blueprints for the attacks were on an encrypted file left behind in a computer found in a Manila apartment, the director noted, decrying the fact that it had taken agents weeks to decrypt the plan. We dont have a computer, nobody has a computer, that will break it down in real time, he complained. Yet just months later, it was Freehs FBI that balked at examining the contents of Moussaouis laptop, that magic black box coveted by a guy whose keen interest was in learning to fly planes without the benefit of instruction in taking off and landing. Plenty of Money And if there was a dearth of hardware and software to swiftly crack the nettlesome Yousef code, was it for lack of funds or resources flowing to Freehs FBI? No, according to the agencys hefty receipt books. From 1994 to 2001, Congress increased the FBIs counterterrorism budget from $79 million to $372 million a nearly 500 percent windfall. And Freeh effectively lobbied for the largesse by
[CTRL] Book Warns Conservatives About Giuliani
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/6/4/171851.shtml }}}Begin Reprinted from NewsMax.com Book Warns Conservatives About Giuliani Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com Wednesday, June 5, 2002 If you can swing a broomstick and hit a rubber ball two manhole covers, youre a slugger as great as Babe Ruth and suitable for the rough and tumble of New York politics. In his latest book, Fighting the Good Fight: A History of the New York Conservative Party, author George Marlin reveals an important fact for real New Yorkers. As it turns out, manhole covers are 75 feet apart an important fact to New York street kids, who played stickball using a broomstick and rubber ball on city streets. Anybody who could hit the ball far enough to reach the second manhole cover had hit the ball 150 feet no mean accomplishment. Such background details are important when talking about New York politics and the great divide between the conservative middle classes who played stickball as kids, went to local colleges such as Manhattan, got law degrees at St. Johns University Law School, and battled against the silk stocking goo-goo element of the states Republican Party, who tended to spend their youth in boarding schools prepping for Ivy League colleges and Harvard Law. Marlin returns to this theme throughout the pages of the book. The people who created New Yorks influential Conservative Party, worked for it and make up the body of voters who support it at the polls are typified by the heroes the nation saw and admired on Sept. 11: New Yorks cops and firefighters. The author sets the scene with a quick lesson on the history of New York politics, writing of the likes of Tammany Hall Boss Plunkett, who made the city work through honest graft; Boss Tweed, who made the city work almost entirely for himself and a few cronies; the political genius Charlie Murphy (when he died, it was said that the brains of Tammany Hall lie buried in Calvary cemetery); right on down to Carmine de Sapio and the waning of the Halls influence. Marlin writes about the factions that have always struggled with each other in New Yorks political arena. On one side are the so-called goo-goos (good government goodies), who, the New York Times once wrote, attempted to deal with municipal government as though it were a private corporation, and they the board of directors whose only aims were efficiency and economy. [They forgot] that a city administration must have a heart as well as a head. On the other side were Tammany Hall and its heirs, men such as Murphy and former New York Gov. Al Smith, who had brains and heart. Nelson Rockefeller's Legacy Marlin reports that the liberal elitists found their icon in one Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller. Marlin says that Rockefeller, more than anybody else, can be credited with creating the need for a conservative party to counter the century-long goo-goo domination of the states Republican Party. Like Gov. Thomas E. Dewey, who ruled New York and the states GOP with an iron hand from 1942 to 1954, Rockefeller, writes Marlin, was a liberal who preferred to be called a progressive. He believed that all problems may be solved, and the solutions require a big, activist government; the executive branch of government has the main responsibility for leadership; and the executive branch must trump legislative majorities because they are provincial whereas the executive is enlightened. From the moment he became governor in 1959, Rockefeller began spending the taxpayers money like the legendary drunken sailor, piling up public debt with reckless abandon. By the time he left Albany, he had created 230 agencies and authorities and left the state with a massive $12 billion debt. In 1960, Rockefeller contributed to the defeat of Vice President Richard M. Nixon in that years presidential election. Thanks to Nixons narrow defeat, in Rockefellers mind he was now assured that he was the GOPs presumptive presidential candidate in 1964. Six days after the election, two young lawyers, Dan Mahoney and his brother-in-law Kieran ODoherty, met with several Republican colleagues. Out of that luncheon meeting, the seeds of the Conservative Party were hatched. After nearly two years of intense activity, the Conservative Party of New York became a reality, with an unusual base: Bill Buckley Republicans, whod had it with Rockefeller, and Al Smith Democrats, who couldnt stomach their partys abandonment of the working middle class. (Later, Marlin says, this group would be called the Reagan Democrats.) Soon after the party began, it took root quickly and became a force to be reckoned with: In 1962, the party ran a candidate for governor, David Jackwith. Astonishingly, this spanking new party got 141,877 votes, 50,184 of them in liberal New York City. Three years later, in 1965, National Review Editor William F. Buckley was the partys candidate for mayor, facing ultra-liberal Republican John
[CTRL] Unscrubbed
-Caveat Lector- From http://democrats.com/view.cfm?id=7382 }}}Begin UNSCRUB ALERT 5-22-02 On 5-22-02 at 9 am, the Military District of Washington at http://www.mdw.army.mil site was unscrubbed, including most of the Pentagon planning article. But a page of photos remains scrubbed: http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/ Contingency_Planning_Photos.html So the mystery continues! In the meantime, keep calling Congress and the media - the story of Condi's Big Lie has received NO coverage outside of Democrats.com! SCRUB ALERT 5-21-02 On 5-20-02, Democrats.com exposed Condi Rice's Big Lie that no one ever expected the Pentagon to be hit by a civilian airliner. According to the official government Web site of the Military District of Washington, the Pentagon ITSELF planned in detail how it would respond to just such a scenario from October 24-26 2000. And this was no low- level exercise, since it took place in the Office of the Secretaries of Defense conference room! Folks, we must have found something REALLY EXPLOSIVE - because not only did Rove Rumsfeld Rice scrub this article - they scrubbed the whole Military District of Washington Web site! Luckily, we kept a copy of the article (see below). Call your Representatives (202-224-3121) and the media and demand the truth about the Pentagon's civilian airline crash exercise in October 2000! On 5-20-02, Democrats.com found this article here: http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/ Contingency_Planning.html Shortly after Democrats.com published this link, the article was SCRUBBED - along with the entire Web site of the Military District of Washington at http:// www.mdw.army.mil! To see Google's archived copy of the original article (minus photos), click here. For the Democrats.com Scrubbers Compendium, click here. Contingency planning Pentagon MASCAL exercise simulates scenarios in preparing for emergencies Story and Photos by Dennis Ryan MDW News Service Click on image to view article's photos Washington, D.C., Nov. 3, 2000 The fire and smoke from the downed passenger aircraft billows from the Pentagon courtyard. Defense Protective Services Police seal the crash sight. Army medics, nurses and doctors scramble to organize aid. An Arlington Fire Department chief dispatches his equipment to the affected areas. Don Abbott, of Command Emergency Response Training, walks over to the Pentagon and extinguishes the flames. The Pentagon was a model and the plane crash was a simulated one. The Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise, as the crash was called, was just one of several scenarios that emergency response teams were exposed to Oct. 24-26 in the Office of the Secretaries of Defense conference room. On Oct. 24, there was a mock terrorist incident at the Pentagon Metro stop and a construction accident to name just some of the scenarios that were practiced to better prepare local agencies for real incidents. To conduct the exercise, emergency personnel hold radios that are used to rush help to the proper places, while toy trucks representing rescue equipment are pushed around the exercise table. Cards are then passed out to the various players designating the number of casualties and where they should be sent in a given scenario. To conduct the exercise, a medic reports to Army nurse Maj. Lorie Brown a list of 28 casualties so far. Brown then contacts her superior on the radio, Col. James Geiling, a doctor in the command room across the hall. Geiling approves Brown's request for helicopters to evacuate the wounded. A policeman in the room recommends not moving bodies and Abbott, playing the role of referee, nods his head in agreement. If you have to move dead bodies to get to live bodies, that's okay, Abbott says as the situation unfolds . Geiling remarked on the importance of such exercises. The most important thing is who are the players? Geiling said. And what is their modus operandi? Brown thought the exercise was excellent preparation for any potential disasters. This is important so that we're better prepared, Brown said. This is to work out the bugs. Hopefully it will never happen, but this way we're prepared. An Army medic found the practice realistic. You get to see the people that we'll be dealing with and to think about the scenarios and what you would do, Sgt. Kelly Brown said. It's a real good scenario and one that could happen easily. A major player in the exercise was the Arlington Fire Department. Our role is fire and rescue, Battalion Chief R.W. Cornwell said. We get to see how each other operates and the roles and responsibilities of each. You have to plan for this. Look at all the air traffic around here. Each participant was required to fill out an evaluation form after the training exercise. We go over scenarios that are germane to the Pentagon, Jake Burrell of the Pentagon Emergency Management Team said. 'You play the way you practice. We want people to go back to their organizations and look at their S.O.P. (standard
[CTRL] Hydrogen-powered car
-Caveat Lector- From Sierra Times }}}Begin Hydrogen-powered car completes cross-country trip Associated Press Published 06. 4. 02 at 23:37 Sierra Time WASHINGTON - A hydrogen-powered car completed a cross-country trip Tuesday, a first-of-its kind journey that promoters say proves the cleaner-burning fuel can be a viable alternative to gasoline. Fuel cell vehicles won't be mass produced for at least eight years under optimistic predictions, but DaimlerChrysler says the trip by its NECAR 5 vehicle shows the promise of fuel cell engines. I will not tell anybody how much doubt we had when we started 16 days ago, Ferdinand Panik, head of DaimlerChrysler's fuel cell group, said after the car pulled up at the Capitol at the end of its journey. It runs much, much better than we believed. It's a big, big step for a new idea, trying to look beyond the capability of fossil fuels. Fuel cells can run on hydrogen or other fuels, such as ethanol, methanol and gasoline, that can be converted into hydrogen. Hydrogen is combined with oxygen from the air in a chemical reaction that produces electricity that powers the vehicle. Pure hydrogen-fed fuel cells produce only water - no harmful emissions - but hydrogen is a flammable gas that poses safety questions, especially when crashes occur, and engineers continue work on safe onboard storage systems. Those using other fuels pollute less than gasoline engines but have some emissions and produce less power than pure hydrogen. The NECAR 5 - New Electric Car, Fifth Generation - is a subcompact Mercedes- Benz A-Class that ran on methanol converted to hydrogen. Since methanol is not available at the corner gas station it had to be delivered to points along the route for refueling every 300 miles. The trip began on May 20 at the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and spanned 3,262 miles, which DaimlerChrysler says is a record for a fuel cell vehicle traveling on public roads. Traveling time was 85 hours over a span of 16 days, an average of about 38 mph, but the car reached speeds of more than 90 mph. Converting the nation's automobile refueling system to hydrogen or other convertible fuels is among the largest hurdles for fuel cell technology. The Bush administration launched a partnership with domestic automakers in January to develop a system of hydrogen refueling stations and spur the growth of hydrogen fuel cells. Other problems will keep the technology from reaching the mass market for at least a decade, experts say, including onboard storage of flammable hydrogen, reliability, durability and cost. The NECAR 5 is a concept car worth more than $1 million. Although costs are declining, the technology is far too expensive to sell for a profit. Obviously there is more work to be done before the vehicle is in the mass market, but this trip shows it can clear some of the customer needs hurdles, said David Friedman, senior analyst with the Union of Concerned Scientists' clean vehicles program. Now all they need to do is do it with a hydrogen version. Most major automakers plan to begin making some fuel cell vehicles powered by convertible fuels available for limited fleet sales within a year, such as to government buyers who can carefully monitor performance. DaimlerChrysler plans to have 30 buses working in 10 European cities next year. Ford Motor Co. has a fuel cell Focus aided by a battery for acceleration that it plans to lease for fleet customers in early 2004. General Motors Corp. demonstrated a Chevrolet S-10 pickup last month that converts gasoline to hydrogen. Increasing numbers of manufacturers also are offering the public hybrids that save fuel with an electric motor that helps the gasoline engine power the vehicle. The NECAR 5 got about 40 miles per gallon of fuel, less than some vehicles sold today, but Panik said the emissions were a fraction of gasoline-powered cars. The car was guided by a global positioning satellite system and accompanied by two SUVs and a van carrying replacement parts and tools. The car broke down once, as the team approached the Nevada border on the first day. Water got into a connector that had to be replaced, which cost the team about a day of traveling time. The team also replaced two belts, four fuel filters and a plastic bottle that contains cooling water. Team leader Wolfgang Weiss said the repairs could have been needed on a similar trip with any other car. He said the NECAR 5 performed better than expected, and the fuel cell remains in great shape. We can turn around and drive back, but I don't want the fear that we won't make it, he said. Permission to reprint/republish granted, as long as you include the name of our site, the author, and our URL. www.SierraTimes.com All Sierra Times news reports, and all editorials are © 2002 SierraTimes.com (unless otherwise noted) SierraTimes.com A Subsidiary of J.J. Johnson Enterprises, Inc. http://www.sierratimes.com/02/06/05/arap060502.htm End{{{
[CTRL] Fwd: CONVERSATION WITH AMB. BORISLAV MILOSEVIC, SLOBODAN'S BROTHER - Part 1
-Caveat Lector- This is being sent on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] as part of the mailing list that you joined. List: emperorsclothes URL: http://www.emperors-clothes.com URL for this article: http://emperors-clothes.com/news/borislav.htm Join our email list at http://emperors-clothes.com/f.htm Receive articles posted on Emperor's Clothes. Please feel free to re-post articles but please quote rather than paraphrasing. Please credit the author(s) if you use our work. And please give the article's Web address so people can check the documentation. www.tenc.net * [Emperor's Clothes] === A CONVERSATION WITH AMBASSADOR * BORISLAV MILOSEVIC, SLOBODAN'S BROTHER [Posted 2 June 2002] === Note from Jared Israel: On May 24th I spoke via three way telephone with BORISLAV MILOSEVIC, Yugoslav Ambassador to Russia from 1998-2000 and before that Ambassador to Algeria. We discussed the significance of widespread Russian support for Slobodan Milosevic; the New World Empire's efforts to destroy international judicial standards and political discourse; and the highly deceptive character of Sept. 11 and the War on Terror. Ambassador Milosevic mainly spoke Serbo-Croatian, which was kindly translated by Vladimir Krsljanin, International Secretary of the Socialist Party of Serbia. A few times Ambassador Milosevic spoke English, as indicated in the text. -- JARED ISRAEL [To make following the conversation easier, we have preceeded comments with the name of the speaker.] * JARED ISRAEL Mr. Ambassador it's a great honor to speak with you. For our readers, let me say that your brother, Slobodan Milosevic, has just won the Sholokhov prize, named for Mikhail Sholokhov, author of the great Russian novel, 'And Quiet Flows the Don.' Could you say a bit more about the prize? * BORISLAV MILOSEVIC Yes. It is perhaps the most distinguished Russian award, given to artists and political leaders of outstanding achievement. Today at the award ceremony I accepted the prize for Slobodan Milosevic because, as the writer Yuri Bondarev said in bestowing this honor, Slobodan is being held in the dungeon of The Hague. * JARED ISRAEL Dungeon is the word, isn't it? They don't even let him meet with Chris Black, the head of his lawyers' committee. And his living conditions are outrageous - terrible food, no exercise, no right to see his own doctors - or any heart specialist - even though his heart condition is a matter of record. And forced to be in court all day and to cross-examine witnesses virtually every day, week after week, which is unheard-of. * BORISLAV MILOSEVIC I think this award will further strengthen the fighting spirit of Slobodan Milosevic and his courage as well. * JARED ISRAEL Also it suggests that the Russians see President Milosevic's resistance as important to their own experience. * BORISLAV MILOSEVIC Yes. The greater part of Russian society strongly supports Slobodan and practically nobody approved his delivery to The Hague, not even those Rightist parties who were hostile to his government. Both houses of the Russian parliament voted overwhelmingly to condemn his kidnapping. Even the mainstream newspapers publish articles critical of The Hague. Russian people consider Slobodan Milosevic a hero of resistance to imperialist intervention, a patriot who defends his country and his people. * JARED ISRAEL This support from Russia is very encouraging to me. I interviewed your brother on March 23rd 2001, just before he was arrested. During that interview he said that one of the things US and West European leaders hated about Yugoslavia was the way you handled the question of national and religious group relations. There had been so much conflict in the past. Some groups had been organized by the Nazis and earlier by the Ottoman Empire to attack Serbs, and Roma and Jews as well of course - and yet in Yugoslavia, and this is still true in Serbia, you had schools in 24 different languages and court proceeding in nine languages. When I was in Serbia this past year I saw that there is still an attitude of mutual appreciation among different groups. It seems to me that the strategy of the New World Empire that has attacked you is to stir up hatred. They use the guidelines laid down by the Nazis, finding points of weakness in ethnic or religious groups that will allow the Empire's mass media and operatives to play on cultural traits that if left alone wouldn't necessarily be a problem. They stir up hatred in one culture against another in a hideous way, especially appealing to groups that were once in a dominant position, empowering their worst elements. The Empire does this more effectively than the Nazis because they have much more sophisticated mass media. Perhaps the worst thing is that
Re: [CTRL] Air Force colonel suspended after bad-mouthing Bush, Court-martial...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/4/02 7:14:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Military law specifically prohibits contemptuous words against the president and other political leaders. The prohibition against anti-government speech goes back to 1776, when soldiers were forbidden from using traitorous or disrespectful words. The rules were updated several times and traitorous or disrespectful changed to contemptuous. Good Lord Almighty. Under Clinton military law prohibited NOT using contemptuous words against the president. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Air Force colonel suspended after bad-mouthing Bush, Court-martial...
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/4/02 7:14:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Military law specifically prohibits contemptuous words against the president and other political leaders. The prohibition against anti-government speech goes back to 1776, when soldiers were forbidden from using traitorous or disrespectful words. The rules were updated several times and traitorous or disrespectful changed to contemptuous. Good Lord Almighty. Under Clinton military law prohibited NOT using contemptuous words against the president. Yep. I have a feeling a lot of that was orchestrated and encouraged from the inside - not necessarily to bring Clinton down, but to give an excuse for later full obedience to a different commander. Two sides of the same coin, as it's said. - jt A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: corsican/sicilian Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: MIKE RUPPERT RESPONDS TO DAVID CORNS LATEST X-Files
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- I like that. Another balance of power that has me puzzled is Sicilian versus Corsican. Bonanno was on the Permindex board, representing US Corsican mob in the JFK assassination. But look at Ed Lansdale and Lucien Conein's bloody substitution of Trafficante and Sicilian mob for French Connection Corsicans in SE Asia early in the US Vietnam war, then again in 911 we see Pak ISI as CIA surrogate handing $100,000 to Atta and assassinating Northern Alliance's French i.e. Corsican connected Gen. Masud, almost the same day, just before 9/11/2001. CIA's heroin godfather during the 1980's was Gulbaddin Hekmatyar and he was always backstabbing Masud, killing about 200 Tajik field commanders, I think it was. I can only guess that Corsicans are fine with CIA unless they are run by French intel, as they were in SE Asia and in Afghanistan the Tajiks up north had French and Chinese affiliations. You can't blame them because they had no one else to turn to. Afghanistan parallels Vietnam in many ways. The assassination of Masud who had French connections, the porous border with sanctuary in Pakistan and which could evolve into a replacement of Al Qaeda with unlimited muslim extremist recruiting just like Viet Cong were really NVA after 1968. Also the off the map CIA heroin utopia in Laos and Cambodia is paralleled by the C-shaped Iranian semi-sphere of influence from the south to Uzbekhistan, where we think Laos' Secord has been trading guns for drugsand training for two years. Hekmatyar had sanctuary in Iran and Iranian spec ops forces in Afghanistan are probably heroin trade security. All the attention is on Pak-run guerillas and none on Iranian allied guerillas. They don't callthe Pak junta the Pak Noriegas for nothing, the Pak border is a smuggling conduit, but that's the front door and Iranian influence areas are off the screen like behind-the-iron-curtain Laos. No surprise that Secord is reported to operate from Uzbekhistan and that is the top ofHekmatyar's Iranian secured "C". Was it even strategic to secure the Kosovar link before retaking Afghanistan for poppy growing and assassinating the French connection's Masud? -Bob - Original Message - From: Michael C. Ruppert To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: MIKE RUPPERT RESPONDS TO DAVID CORN"S LATEST "X-Files" Does it have to be a one leading the other relationship? I see it asmore fluid than that. I think that probably in and around Israel, Israelis superior. There have been conflicts and alliances between the two.But you have to throw in British, French and Russian intelligence aswell. Sometimes they work together, sometimes alliances form, dissolverand reform based upon conditions.The Israeli sinking of the U.S.S. Liberty in 67 was unconscionable and Ithink a case where Israel "trumped" the CIA and NSA. The tables turn,and turn again. Even allies become opponents at times.-Original Message-From: grimalkin_q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:30 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: MIKE RUPPERT RESPONDS TO DAVID CORN"S LATEST"X-Files"I'm sorry if this is a really stupid question; however, I am sincerelyinterested in your viewpoint on this matter.I realize that the CIA and Mossad have a long long close relationship.However, the question is Which one of the two leads the other? Obviously they both misleadeachother, g, but which one is "master" who can demand, "Jump!" andhave the other acquiesce, obsequiously asking, "How high???"Also, Gordon Thomas' book GIDEON'S SPIES: The Secret
[CTRL] Fwd: CIA Gave FBI Warning On Hijacker
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- CIA Gave FBI Warning On Hijacker Agency Told That Almihdhar Attended Malaysia Meeting http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=28079 APFN MESSAGE BOARD 6/4/2000 FACT: Prior Knowledge of 9-11 - USA Spy Forsaken by US Government Mike Vreeland's - FINANCIAL REPORTS INFORMATION The Continuing Saga of Leo Wanta - Money Laundering APFN, Wed Jun 5 01:26 Enron and 9/11: Follow the Money! APFN, Tue Jun 4 16:54 9/11 - ENRON - MONEY LAUNDERING APFN, Tue Jun 4 18:04 9-11 Smokescreen Victor Thorn, Tue Jun 4 16:00 http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html RE: 9/11 TITLE: Vreeland Faxes - Leo E. Wanta - Money Laundering http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wanta.htm The Sixth Fax is a Summary of Transactions [snip] BACKGROUND: Promissory Bank Notes (PBNs) are one form of bank instrument used by countries in their nation debt financing. They are also used as the basis of arbitrage transactions, which are illegal in the United States, but not elsewhere. In this transaction for an overall face value of $27.5 trillion US DOLLARS, the PBNs have been purchased by a consortium of funders, predominately from the Far East and Europe. The funders have agreed to purchase the PBNs at 71.5% of their face value, to be repaid at par in 20 years and 1 day, together with an annual interest of 7 1/2%. The PBNs have been sold by a consortium of some 200 banks at a cost of 61.5%. The 10.0% difference is made up of bank fees, suppliers (collateral) fees, funding agents fees and various commission fees, together with monies going to various countries to fund projects. [snip] This loan transaction is the largest ever ever put together, and some two thirds have been completed, resulting in some 1.76 trillion dollars worth of foreign monies having been put up for conversation. We do not know the discount employed, but we believe that it was between 10 and as much as 25% in some cases, hence the remaining monies for disbursement must lie somewhere between 1.3 and 1.6 trillion US dollars, ie the United States has already received a minimum of $150 billion dollars in conversation fees. The remaining monies for disbursement have been held by the US banks, for the reasons which can only be described as fraudulent, under the direct instruction of the US Government, for over a year and a half. In addition, there has been a conspiracy of misinformation, orchestrated by the highest levels of the US Government, regarding the exact whereabouts of these monies and the timing of their payout. These monies should have been paid out in June, 1989, or shortly thereafter. [snip] SEE THE FULL DOC HERE: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC/SixthFax.PDF 911 - Terror in America - APFN INFO AND LINKS: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc.htm Without Justice, there is JUST_US! http://www.apfn.org/ APFN YahooGroups: Subscribe: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apfn/join Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find elected officials, including the president, members of Congress, governors, state legislators, local officials, and more. http://congress.org/congressorg/dbq/officials/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the
[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Money and Madness
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detailstoryid=254286 Money and Madness June 3, 2002 By Kelly Patricia O'Meara A child who doesn't like doing math homework may be diagnosed with the mental illness developmental-arithmetic disorder (No.315.4). A child who argues with her parents may be diagnosed as having a mental illness called oppositional-defiant disorder (No.313.8). And people critical of the legislation now snaking through Congress that purports to end discrimination against patients seeking treatment for mental illness may find themselves labeled as being in denial and diagnosed with the mental illness called noncompliance-with-treatment disorder (No.15.81). The psychiatric diagnoses suggested above are no joke. They represent a few of the more than 350 mental disorders listed in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV), the billing bible for mental disorders which commingles neurological diseases with psychiatric diagnoses. (Click here to see more examples of the mental disorders listed in the DSM-IV.) Whether the described diagnoses are real diseases or subjective speculation, science is at the heart of the debate about whether lawmakers will require employers and insurers to cover mental illness on the same level as physical disease. Advocates of the Mental Health Equitable Treatment Act of 2002 (S 543), and its sister proposal in the House (HR 4066), are seeking to expand the 1996 mental-health parity legislation. It mandates employers with more than 50 employees and that offer mental-health coverage to provide insurance benefits equal to those of standard health care, such as surgery and physician visits. The pending proposals would expand the 1996 legislation to require that caps, or limitations on coverage, be the same for mental illnesses as those provided for medical illnesses, in the name of so-called mental-health parity. When it comes to mental illness and medical illness however, there is no scientific parity between the two schools of thought. That is, only one is based in physical science. Proponents of mental-health parity believe, and have for the most part successfully convinced lawmakers, that the mental illnesses described in the DSM-IV are medical diseases. For example, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is considered medically equivalent to, say, measles or anemia. But critics patiently explain that the psychiatric mental illness as described in the DSM-IV is a subjective diagnosis that lies in the eye of the beholder rather than in proved medical science. How this issue is decided, these critics say, likely will determine whether millions of American families will be priced out of health insurance. Fred Baughman, a San Diego neurologist and leading critic of the alleged mental illness called attention-deficit/ hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) (see picture profile, Feb. 18), tells Insight the question that must be answered before a mental illness can qualify as a disease is this: Where is the macroscopic, microscopic or chemical abnormality in any living patient or at death/autopsy? Baughman explains: No one is justified in saying anyone is medically abnormal/diseased until such time as they can adduce some such abnormality. This, by the way, would apply to a person suspected of having diabetes or cancer. The fact is, Baughman adds, There is no psychiatric diagnosis for which any part of this question can be answered in the affirmative. In other words: no abnormality; no disease. There is no confirmation of abnormality in the brain in life or at autopsy
[CTRL] [1] David Corn smears Mike Ruppert yet again... this is getting fatiguing..
-Caveat Lector- http://www.questionsquestions.net/documents2/corn2.html There are type stylings and other type-nuances at the web site that help to understand whom is talking where. Om K - (revised 5 June 2002) David Corn smears Mike Ruppert yet again... this is getting fatiguing... Capital Games by David Corn The September 11 X-Files 05/30/2002 @ 1:56pm On March 25, during a Pacifica radio interview, Representative Cynthia McKinney, a Georgia Democrat, said, We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11 What did this Administration know, and when did it know it about the events of September 11? Who else knew and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? McKinney was not merely asking if there had been an intelligence failure. She was suggesting--though not asserting--that the US government had foreknowledge of the specific attacks and either did not do enough to prevent them or, much worse, permitted them to occur for some foul reason. Senator Zell Miller, a conservative Democrat from her state, called her comments loony. House minority leader Dick Gephardt noted that he disagreed with her. White House spokesman Ari Fleischer quipped, The congresswoman must be running for the Hall of Fame of the Grassy Knoll Society. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution called her a nut. Well, that just about settles it! Seems like a respectable bipartisan consensus... even Ari Fleischer's in there! I think it's very important that everyone hear these remarks about McKinney one more time; good thing Corn has included them. (Incidentally, a top-flight scientific study recently concluded on the basis of extensively re-examining audio recordings from JFK's assasination, that there was indeed a shot fired at the President from the area around the notorious Grassy Knoll. Better than 96% certainty; this was reported in the Washington Post. The newly recalculated odds of the official lone gunman theory being correct? 1 in 100,000. Can someone please let Mr. Corn know that the Grassy Knoll joke is a little played out...) http://www.jfklancer.com/LNE/knollstudy.html Two months later, after it was revealed that George W. Bush had received an intelligence briefing a month before September 11 in which he informed told Osama bin Laden was interested in both hijacking airplanes and striking directly at the United States, McKinney claimed vindication. But that new piece of information did not support the explosive notion she had unfurled earlier--that the Bush Administration and/or other unnamed parties had been in a position to warn New Yorkers and had elected not to do so. Mr. Corn, what do you have to say about the Rowley memo? Are you trying to pretend that the news of the intelligence briefing is the only new piece of evidence that supports McKinney's position? With her radio interview, McKinney became something of a spokesperson for people who question the official story of September 11. As the Constitution's editorial page blasted her, its website ran an unscientific poll and found that 46 percent said, I think officials knew it was coming. Unscientific,yes -- but the results were remarkable no matter how you cut it. Conservative outlet Newsmax made note of this, and also made note of how Democrats were still treating the issue as radioactive despite the signs of an unexpectedly positive public respone. A clear indication of an atmosphere of heavy indimidation. Out there--beyond newspaper conference rooms and Congressional offices--alternative scenarios and conspiracy theories have been zapping across the Internet for months. God forbid that normal Americans should dare to think for themselves, and not accept spoon-fed spin from Congressional spokespersons and the corporate press. George W. Bush did it. The Mossad did it. The CIA did it. Or they purposely did not thwart the assault--either to have an excuse for war, to increase the military budget or to replace the Taliban with a government sympathetic to the West and the oil industry. History is full of well-known precedents in which bloody provocations for wars have been fabricated for similar reasons. Not all of the speculations being raised about 9/11 are tenable, but the idea in general of a set-up is not extraordinary and should be examined without prejudice. The theories claim that secret agendas either caused the attacks or drove the post-9/11 response, and these dark accounts have found an audience of passionate devotees. Corn plays the classic, hackneyed passionate rabble card. Tends to go over well with the snotty, smarter-than-thou old left establishment. I learned this after I wrote a column dismissing various 9/11 conspiracy theories. Glad to see that Corn is honest enough to use the word dismissing. I expressed doubt that the Bush Administration would kill or allow the murder of thousands of American citizens to achieve a political or economic
[CTRL] [2] David Corn smears Mike Ruppert yet again... this is getting fatiguing..
-Caveat Lector- http://www.questionsquestions.net/documents2/corn2.html --[cont]-- There are type stylings and other type-nuances at the web site that help to understand whom is talking where. Om K - Judge Campbell called Vreeland a man who appears on this evidentiary record to be nothing more than a petty fraudsman with a vivid imagination. But Ruppert dismisses Vreeland's past, noting he has a very confusing criminal arrest record--some of it very contradictory and apparently fabricated. Simply a lie -- Ruppert has stated very plainly that Vreeland is not a saint and has never tried to deny or dismiss the existence of his criminal record. The world of spying and covert operations is not known for being straight-laced. Furthermore Vreeland has made two arguments that deserve mention: first, he claims that parts of his record were forged deliberately, following the practice of building a credible criminal rep which is essential if one is supposed to infiltrate organized crime. Second, if these records are all genuine, then why have they not been applied to Vreeland's extradition hearings, which would make nabbing him a snap? When I interviewed Vreeland, he said, I have never legally been convicted of anything in the United States of America. And, he added, he has never been in prison. There are two odd bounces in this case. Vreeland claims that in Moscow he worked with a Canadian Embassy employee named Marc Bastien. Unfortunately, this cannot be confirmed by Bastien. He was found dead in Moscow on December, 12, 2000--while Vreeland was in jail in Toronto. At the time of his death, Canadian authorities announced Bastien died of natural causes, but Vreeland later claimed Bastien had been murdered. Then, this past January, the Quebec coroner said Bastein died after drinking a mixture of alcohol and clopazine, an antidepressant, and he noted that Bastien may have been poisoned--or may have been offered the medication to fight a hangover. Corn, don't play dumb and skip the context. The coroner was cautiously agreeing with the findings of the RMCP and Moscow police who believed that the computer specialist was the victim of a person - maybe a woman - who slipped a clopazine tablet in his drink. Had Vreeland really known something about this death, or had he made a good guess about a fellow whose death was covered in the Canadian media? And during a courtroom proceeding, at Vreeland's insistence, the judge allowed his counsel to place a call to the Pentagon. The operator who answered confirmed that a Lieutenant D. Vreeland was listed in the phone directory. Afterward, Canadian prosecutors claimed that information from the US government indicated that a person purporting to be Lieutenant D. Vreeland had earlier sent an e- mail to a telephone operator at the Pentagon, saying he would temporarily be occupying a Pentagon office and requesting that this be reflected in the listings. Ummm, yeah... what evidence did they offer? By the way, the statements and behavior of prosecutors in the case has been described by Ruppert as bizarre and contradictory, which is apparently one of the factors which swayed the exasperated judge to rule in Vreeland's favor. Could a fellow in a Toronto jail have scammed the Pentagon telephone system? And if he had, would the Pentagon now be silent about it? Why has Corn brought up this innuendo based on heresay from a clearly biased source? Wouldn't it be easier to call up the Pentagon and get a definitive statement on this? Really. Next, we ought to ask how Vreeland, from his jail cell, forged a 1,000+ page service record and had a deep-cover mole on the inside to deposit it in military archives where it could be retrieved by his laywers. Obviously an extraordinarily talented fellow. In March the Canadian criminal charges against Vreeland were dropped, and he was allowed to post bail. Explaining why charges were removed, Paul McDermott, a provincial prosecutor, says his office considered the pending extradition matter the priority. Vreeland's extradition hearing is scheduled for September. To believe Vreeland's scribbles mean anything, By the way, some people who have not decided at the drop of a hat that the letter merely contains scribbles have made some interesting finds. For instance, names of two Russian businessmen whose connections lead straight to some Central Asia oil interests... but Corn probably doesn't want to hear about that... one must believe his claim to be a veteran intelligence operative sent to Moscow on an improbable top-secret, high-tech mission (change design documents to neutralize an entire technology) during which he stumbled upon documents (which he has not revealed) showing that 9/11 was going to happen. To believe that, one must believe he is a victim of a massive disinformation campaign, involving his family, law enforcement officers and defense lawyers across the country, two state corrections departments, county clerk offices
[CTRL] Fwd: EIN News Service - FREE Trial
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Dear Sir / Madam, My name is Petr Stanek and I am managing the free trial subscription program at EIN News. EIN News provides hourly updated breaking news headlines and other important information from 178 countries, regions as well as specialized Industry and Institutional Reports. During June, you and your associates can have a FREE TRIAL SUBSCRIPTION to the EIN Deluxe Edition. You will have access to a collection of EIN's 25,000+ daily updated articles, a news archive and many other benefits too. Once again, this trial is FREE. To subscribe, just reply to this e-mail or sign up at: http://www.europeaninternet.com/login/affiliate_register.php3 A partial list of current EIN subscribers can be found at: http://www.europeaninternet.com/mediakit/ If you have any questions, comments, or need assistance signing up, please contact us personally by either writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or simply replying to this email. Please feel free to forward this offer to any of your colleagues. Best regards, Petr Stanek Subscription Department EIN News www.europeaninternet.com To be removed please reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: The Paper Age
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- * * * * * * * * * * * * REMINDER * * * * * * * * * * * * * On the days that I don't publish, like today, you receive Bill Bonner's DAILY RECKONING. This will help you to keep pace with the changes in the markets. Bonner and I agree on most things in the field of economics, so the two letters reinforce each other. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The Paper Age THE DAILY RECKONING PARIS, FRANCE WEDNESDAY, 5 JUNE 2002 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *** Back to reality...but what reality? 42 times earnings?... *** Tycoons are sick people, not bad people!... *** Consumers still spending...but investors buying fewer U.S. stocks...Big Brother is watching...and more... * * * * * * * * Advertisement * * * * * * * * -- Been to the Daily Reckoning Marketplace Yet? -- If not, you ought to see what you've been missing. Want to read more from our regular contributors? This is the place to find it. We've collected some of the best financial advice and commentary available anywhere and presented it to you all in one place. Take a look: http://www.dailyreckoning.com/marketplace.cfm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Logic suggests, writes Newsweek's Wall Street reporter Allan Sloan, that for the next decade or so, stock prices won't increase much faster than corporate earnings, which typically rise about 7 percent a year. Throw in an additional 1.5 percent or so for dividends, and you end up with a return - dividends plus stock price increases - in the high single digits. And getting that return depends on price-to-earnings multiples staying at their current high levels... Welcome to reality, says Sloan. But Sloan's reality is not necessarily Mr. Market's reality. The 20% per year gains of the late '90s are gone, he says. Instead, it's back to normalcy, in which investors only get what they've gotten for the last 56 years - about 9% per year, including dividends. Mom and Pop Investor are probably just now coming to terms with this 'reality.' They liked the big gains of the '90s...but they're not greedy. Stocks always go up in the long run, they still believe; it's just too bad they only go up at 9% per year. But, hey, 9% ain't so bad. Wouldn't it be a darned shame, dear reader, if Mr. Market pulled one of his perverse tricks...and stocks lost 9% this year? Or 19%? Or 49%? Or 69%? Even Mr. Sloan notes that getting 9% in the coming years depends on price-to-earnings multiples staying at their current high level, which is no sure thing. The reality is that P/E ratios are currently about 3 times the normal level - depending on how you calculate them. Over the sweep of history, the vernacular wisdom of generations of investors was that stocks should trade for only about 15 times earnings. Why should they be worth more today? But let's turn to our own eyes and ears on Wall Street, Mr. Eric Fry, for an up-to-date report: ** Eric, adroitly reporting from New York... - As anticipated in yesterday's Daily Reckoning, the obvious trades stopped working...for one day, anyway. - The stock market and the dollar stopped falling and gold stocks stopped going up. Although stocks and the dollar both dropped early in the day, they reversed course in the afternoon. Conversely, gold stocks climbed early before falling in the afternoon. - By mid-morning yesterday, the Dow had dropped more than 100 points. But the blue chips recovered to finish the day with a slim 21-point loss at 9,687. The Nasdaq fared even better than the Dow. Despite falling about 1% in the morning, the Nasdaq ended the day with a 1% gain to 1,578.
[CTRL] Fwd: [911-Discussion] Fwd: [Hawk's Nest - Terrorism] News Flash: U.S. had agents inside al-Qaeda
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- IntellNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U.S. had agents inside al-Qaeda U.S. intelligence overheard al-Qaeda operatives discussing a major pending terrorist attack in the weeks prior to Sept. 11 and had agents inside the terror group, but the intercepts and field reports didn't specify where or when a strike might occur, according to U.S. officials. USA Today [ http://www.usatoday.com/news/attack/2002/06/03/cia-attacks.htm ] News Flash Provided by IntellNet [ http://www.intellnet.org ] -The Intelligence Network Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] BookReview.com Book of the Month - Barry and 'the boys': The CIA, the Mob and America's Secret History
-Caveat Lector- Yes, indeed! Om K - http://www.bookreview.com/ Current Events - Politics Title: Barry and 'the boys': The CIA, the Mob and America's Secret History Author: Daniel Hopsicker Rating: Excellent! Publisher: Mad Cow Press Publisher's Web Page: http://www.madcowpress.com Reviewed by: Paul Lappen This book is all about a scandal feared by the White House more than Whitewater, a scandal not touched by the American news media. Its a totally different look at the last half century of American history, and it revolves around a place called Mena, Arkansas and a man named Barry Seal. Seal grew up in Louisiana and was addicted to airplanes from an early age. While still a teenager, he could pilot nearly anything with wings. Joining the Louisiana Civil Air Patrol, he met a man named David Ferrie (later to be well known in JFK assassination circles) who introduced him to the clandestine world. Soon, Seal would disappear for days or weeks at a time, and come back with, for a teenager in the 1950s, insanely large amounts of money. Becoming a life-long CIA operative, Seal started his career running guns to both sides in the Cuban Revolution, to Fidel Castro and Fulgencio Batista. Over the next 40 years, Seal was at the center of all the major events in US history, from the JFK assassination (the book blows more holes, as if more were needed, in the Warren Commissions Lone Gunman theory), to Vietnam drug-running, to Watergate, to Iran-Contra. The entire period is characterized by very deep ties between US intelligence and the Mafia, even going back to Cuba before Castro. The author isnt talking about vague ties with minor-league mobsters, he is talking about people like Johnny Roselli and Carlos Marcello, the absolute top of the Mob pyramid. Mena, Arkansas was a small town with an equally small airport. It was also a major entry point for a flood of airplane-carried cocaine into the United States (by the ton). Going on for years and years, one must ask if the major players in Arkansas politics, like Jackson Stephens and Bill Clinton, were somehow in cahoots with the CIA and the Mob. The author also explores plenty of ties between Seal and the Bush family. This book surpasses the level of Wow. It has enough revelations for ten books. It is extremely highly recommended, especially for anyone interested in recent American history. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Robespierre, Dictator - 9.11 - 1872
-Caveat Lector- So folks, lots of numbers and so very tedious stuff, but of course there is a truth there in. So if you can, try it out... Robespierre, Dictator - 9.11 - 1872 The French Revolution lasted from July 14th 1789 until July 28th 1794 when the head of the Dictator suffered Madam Guillotine, a period of 1,840 days or 4 x 460 the reference for the Law, (the Mace of the USA is 46 inches long). Robespierre was elected President of the National Convention on July 27th 1793, one year and one day later, that is 366 days the Dictator was decapitated, and so the Falcon was there as blood flowed out of the severed head, at 61 x 4 lots at 366 days. The choosing of the site to build the Eiffel Tower could be said to 'rubber-stamp' the work of Robespierre, for the place chosen was the small hill in the area known as Champ-de-Mars where this fanatical revolutionary leader gave his famous public speech on June 8th 1794. In 1751, some 43 years earlier, the French king Louis XV decreed the establishment of a military academy to be built on the Grenelle plain that stretched to the river Seine. The name given to this area was Champ-de-Mars and great celebrations were held there during the Revolution which began on July 14th 1789. It was here that the Festival of the Supreme Being took place on June 8th 1794, and it was presided over by Robespierre, a leader who was dressed in a light blue coat, white silk waistcoat, black silk breeches, white stockings and shoes with buckles of gold. He was the President of the Covention, and as such stood up on this hill and proclaimed the 'Existence of the Supreme Being'. And he told the crowds, this came as a second surprise, that the 'soul is immortal'. He also added that 'Atheism and Company' was no more, and the nearby cardboard model, which had represented the mind-set of the revolution, was now burnt. Maximillien Robespierre was now the Dictator, the High Priest and Prophet of revolutionary France. In the headquarters of the Jacobin Club, in a once church building, against a wall stood a black marble pyramid left there by the previous occupants. The Jacobins were Robespierre's supporters, some were also called 'Men of the Mountain' and they continually cried out, Republic one and indivisible, Liberty, Equality, Fraternity and Death. It was Robespierre who had been the main instigator of the 'Terror' where thousands were executed, many by guillotine, and most were innocent of any crime whatsoever. The academics were not immune from death, for the famous chemist Lavoisier, when he begged for more time to finish his experiments, the reply came, The Republic does not need such experiments, the axe must do its work. But for Robespierre himself time was running out. The next month in the National Convention he faced the 'Men of the Plain', a meeting where Robespierre was found guilty. The tyrant shrieked, I demand speech of thee for the last time! To you O virtuous 'Men of the Plain', I appeal to you! The committee retired and early the next morning at 3am July 28th 1794, the Convention decreed that Robespierre and all rebels were 'Out of Law'. Hearing this bad news the tyrant tried to kill himself but the shot only injured his jaw. At 4pm that afternoon it was reported that the streets of Paris had never been so crowded along the route from the prison at the Palais de Justice to the Place de Revolution where stood the guillotine. On the scaffold the coat of Robespierre was stripped off him and the linen bandage torn away from his injured jaw, before he was positioned on the decapitating machine. And when his head rolled into the basket, the hair was grabbed, and the head dripping with blood was displayed to the vast crowd. This caused the Jacobins, the Men of the Mountain, to shrink away; The Terror was dead said the Men of the Plain, once called the Frogs of the Marsh. OK, now to show how the two End Time dates of September 11th 2001 and December 22nd 2012 are locked into July 28th 1794, the day the Terror died. Form July 28th 1794 until September 11th 2001 it is 207.123 years at 75,650 days + 4,120 days at 79,770 days it is December 22nd 2012. Now here is the curious thing, for I take not the difference of 4,120 days and add to 75,650 days but 41,200 days and + again 75,650 days = 192,500 days. And 192,500 days, is made up of Python Apollo at 157,000 + 35,500. And 35,500 x 40 is 1,420,000 /Pi + 1,420,000 is 1,872,000.03 days. That is the Maya calendar of 13 periods of 144,000 days. And 15.7 x 15.7 x 4 is 985.96 feet. And the 985.96 feet is 985 feet 11.5 inches. The official height of the Eiffel Tower is 985 feet 11 inches. Thus the Eiffel Tower is the Tower of Python Apollo. So it is as plain as one of the seven pike staffs stuffed into a severed head as they marched from the fall of the Bastille, that hundreds of people knew of the twin dates of September 11th 2001 and December 22nd 2012. And I suggest that they will need a wall around the G.P.
[CTRL] Bush dismisses administration's climate change study
-Caveat Lector- Bush dismisses administration's climate change study Copyright © 2002 AP Online Climate Action By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press WASHINGTON (June 4, 2002 9:34 p.m. EDT) - President Bush dismissed on Tuesday a report put out by his administration warning that human activities are behind climate change that is having significant effects on the environment. The report to the United Nations - compiled by the Environmental Protection Agency from information provided by climate experts at six agencies, including the EPA - puts most of the blame for recent global warming on the burning of fossil fuels that release carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases into the environment. But it suggests nothing beyond voluntary action by industry for dealing with the so-called greenhouse gases, the program Bush advocated in rejecting a treaty negotiated in Kyoto, Japan, in 1997 calling for mandatory reduction of those gases by industrial nations. I read the report put out by the bureaucracy, Bush said dismissively Tuesday when asked about the EPA report, adding that he still opposes the Kyoto treaty. White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the report was the result of work by staff at the agencies and the White House's Council on Environmental Quality, whose chairman was appointed by Bush to serve as his principal environmental policy adviser. Japan ratified the international accord Tuesday and urged the United States and other countries to join efforts to fight global warming by cutting emissions of heat-trapping gases. Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's Cabinet gave final approval to the Kyoto Protocol, which passed the upper and lower houses of Parliament last month. The report submitted to the United Nations by the State Department was the first by the Bush administration to mostly blame human activity for global warming. The changes observed over the last several decades are likely mostly due to human activities, but we cannot rule out that some significant part of these changes is also a reflection of natural variability, the report says. Human-induced warming and associated sea level rises are expected to continue through the 21st century, it says. Secondary effects ... include increases in rainfall rates and increased susceptibility of semiarid regions to drought. The report also says that despite some lingering scientific uncertainties, There is general agreement that the observed warming is real and has been particularly strong within the past 20 years. In the United States, changes over the next few decades are expected to put Southeastern coastal communities at greater risk of storm surges, prompt more uncomfortable heat waves in cities and reduce snowpack and water supplies in the West. Kalee Kreider, global warming campaign director for the National Environmental Trust, an advocacy group, said environmentalists want from the administration a climate change plan that joins with other nations in requiring carbon dioxide emission reductions and increased fuel efficiency requirements for vehicles. It's good they've done a 180-degree turn on the science. Given the audience, they pretty much had to, Kreider said. But we're still waiting for a plan that mandates pollution cuts. Last year, the White House described climate change as a serious issue but was undecided about how much of the problem should be blamed on human activities. President Bush favors a climate plan with voluntary measures to slow the rate of growth in gas emissions but allow them to continue to rise. McClellan said the administration remains convinced the president's plan is the best path. He pointed to language in the report acknowledging considerable uncertainty in current understanding of how climate varies naturally. And, he said, Bush's plan will significantly reduce the growth of greenhouse gas emissions, while investing in new science and technology to curb them. Bush has proposed spending $4.5 billion on climate change science and technology. European Union countries formally signed the Kyoto Protocol on Friday. It was negotiated in 1997 to stem pollution and global warming; President Bush has rejected it. The ratification by Japan and the 15 EU countries at the headquarters of the United Nations represented a major step toward putting the treaty into force. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on 12/18/2000. As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many
[CTRL] a scourge of smal arms.
-Caveat Lector- Scientific American article. http://www.sciam.com/2000/0600issue/0600boutwell.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Bay TB Tests Bared
-Caveat Lector- From http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/06/04/MN202007.DTL }}}Begin www.sfgate.com Return to regular view S.F. site of testing for new TB vaccine Trial expected by year's end Susan Okie, Washington Post Tuesday, June 4, 2002 ©2002 San Francisco Chronicle URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/06/04/MN202007.DTL San Francisco -- Preliminary testing of a new tuberculosis vaccine in humans is expected to begin by the end of this year in San Francisco, experts said Monday. The planned safety trial would mark the first time in about 80 years that a new vaccine has been tested against the tuberculosis bacterium, which infects an estimated one-third of the world's population. In the past decade, there has been a resurgence of scientific effort and international funding to fight TB, which kills about 2 million people worldwide each year, according to health officials and researchers who spoke at the fourth World Congress on Tuberculosis. Bacterial strains that resist treatment with existing drugs are becoming increasingly prevalent, however, making the development of new drugs and vaccines essential to controlling the epidemic. We won't even begin to approach the goal of elimination of TB as a global health problem without developing new tools, said Philip Hopewell of the UC San Francisco. 15,989 CASES IN U.S. There were 15,989 cases of TB reported in the United States last year, half of them among people born in other countries. Tuberculosis infection may remain dormant in the lungs for many years, often for a lifetime. In 5 percent to 10 percent of those infected, the disease becomes active, usually causing fever, night sweats and coughing that can transmit the bacteria to others. People whose immune systems have been damaged by HIV infection are especially vulnerable to TB, which is a major cause of death among such individuals, especially in developing countries. Although a full course of TB treatment costs only $10, not enough money is available to find and treat all active TB cases worldwide, said Jong- Wook Lee of the World Health Organization. The gap is $300 million annually, he said. The recent decoding of the genetic sequence of Mycobacterium tuberculosis, the TB bacterium, represents a potential breakthrough for development of new drugs and vaccines, said Douglas Young of London's Imperial College. One discovery stemming from new genetic knowledge is that of isocitrate lyase, an enzyme that TB bacteria apparently need to maintain themselves even when they are quiescent. Current drugs against the disease can kill the bacteria only when they are multiplying. A drug that blocked the action of the enzyme might work better and faster than current treatments, Young said. The TB vaccine scheduled for testing in humans later this year is a new version of BCG, a partially effective vaccine introduced 80 years ago that is widely used in developing countries to prevent severe TB in childhood. CALIFORNIA RESEARCHER Developed by California researcher Marcus Horwitz, the new vaccine is genetically engineered to prompt production of a specific bacterial protein that has been found to protect mice from the disease, said Carol Nacy of the Sequella Foundation. The clinical trial, currently planned to take place in San Francisco, would test the vaccine's safety, she said. Eventually, it may be tested against older versions of BCG to see whether it is superior. Other vaccines being developed may be used to boost the immune systems of TB- infected individuals to reduce their likelihood of developing active disease, or as an adjunct to drug treatment to prevent relapses, Nacy said. ©2002 San Francisco Chronicle Page A - 3 End{{{ ~~~ Forwarded as information only; no automatic endorsement + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe simply because it has been handed down for many generations. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is written in Holy Scriptures. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of Teachers, elders or wise men. Believe only after careful observation and analysis, when you find that it agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all. Then accept it and live up to it. The Buddha on Belief, from the Kalama Sutta + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. --- Ernest Hemingway A
[CTRL] Terror on Iraq
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.jordantimes.com/Wed/news/news3.htm }}}Begin Iraq rejects US charges, says it is 'primary victim of US terror' BAGHDAD (Agencies) Iraq on Tuesday rejected US charges that Baghdad was a sponsor of terrorism, saying the Iraqi people were the first victim of US terror. Washington labels certain countries `sponsors of terrorism' without providing proof for its accusations, which shows that it exploits the so-called `fight against terror' to pursue its aggressive policies against states that reject US hegemony, said a foreign ministry spokesman quoted by the INA news agency. The United States accuses those who defend their land of being terrorists while exonerating Israel despite the terrorist acts and collective killings it carries out against the Palestinians, the spokesman said. In its annual Patterns of Global Terrorism report for 2001 released May 21, the State Department made no changes to the US list of rogue states, designating Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria as sponsors of terrorism. By funding and arming Israel, Washington was a full partner in the terrorist acts perpetrated by the Jewish state against the Palestinian people, the Iraqi spokesman said. The Iraqi people are the primary victim of US terrorism, the spokesman noted. Cites examples Citing examples of what he said were terrorist acts against Iraq, the spokesman said the US spent tens of millions of dollars on gangs of mercenary to launch terrorist attacks against Iraq under what was called the Iraq Liberation Law. He was referring to funds given by US State Department to the Iraqi opposition. He added that Iraq's cities, villages and scientific and economic installations had been under daily attack and systematic destruction since 1991, saying the US and Britain were illegitimately enforcing two no-fly zones in southern and northern Iraq. The zones were set up in 1991 to allegedly protect areas occupied by Kurds and the Shiite Muslim population from what the allies describe as military threats from Baghdad. The spokesman said Iraq had nothing to do with last September's attacks on the United States. Accusations by the American administration against Iraq concerning events of Sept. 11 are false accusations, he said. The US State Department report is the first to appear since President George W. Bush launched his war on terrorism and told foreign governments they must choose between cooperation or isolation. US-sponsored Iraqi opposition conference up in the air In another development, an Iraqi opposition figure said Tuesday a US- sponsored Iraqi opposition conference that was to have been held in late June or early July will be replaced by meetings of working groups aimed at organising an enlarged gathering. The indefinite postponement of the conference was due to disputes within the US administration, Ghassan Al Atiyyah told AFP by telephone from London. A wing of the administration has obstructed the State Department's efforts to organise the meeting because it feared it would marginalise the opposition Iraqi National Congress (INC), he said. Atiyyah, one of nine Iraqi dissidents who took part in April 9-10 talks in Washington to prepare the conference, said the two main Kurdish parties sharing control of northern Iraq had stepped in to try to organise the elusive conference in cooperation with two other opposition groups. That effort involves the Kurdistan Democratic Party and Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, in conjunction with the Supreme Assembly for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SAIRI), the main Shiite Muslim opposition faction, and the National Accord Movement. The four groups are discussing the proposed meeting among themselves and with the United States, on the understanding that they themselves will sponsor it, Atiyyah said. The State Department had planned to spend five million dollars on a conference at which both Iraqi dissidents and experts would look into how to govern Iraq after President Saddam Hussein is removed from office. The gathering was to be organised by the Middle East Institute, a Washington-based think tank that hosted the preparatory April meetings, and although no date was announced, it had been expected to take place in early summer. Atiyyah said this would now be replaced by meetings of specialized working groups to be held in Europe in the summer with the participation of experts, NGOs and Iraqi dissidents. These meetings would be sponsored by both the State Department and NGOs in the hope that they will culminate in a political conference, also at a European venue, in late summer, he said. Atiyyah said the change of plan was due to rivalries within the administration which led to the exclusion of the Middle East Institute as a conference organiser after its president, Edward Walker, criticised some of Bush's policies. Walker came under heavy attack from some sides in the
[CTRL] The Patch
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[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] To all living under the shadow of 911 and the War on Terror
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- To all living under the shadow of 911 and the War on Terror: I am David Bosankoe of Bristol, England. A few months ago the American Department of Defence released to the World Media the five security-camera (CCTV) frames that capture the attack on the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia that occurred on September 11, 2001. These frames were broadcast across the Internet News agencies where I was able to pick them up and enlarge them, after which I joined them together in a single animation file: http://www.bosankoe.btinternet.co.uk/pentagon.gif - approx 160kb. My attention was initially brought to these frames as I was searching for evidence in support of my position in an argument with Dick Eastman, an American who regularly posts his analysis, forwardings and links to uk.politics.crime and other newsgroups. We were arguing over the French web page, Spot the Boeing,: http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm Eastman was expounding his theory of an internally planted bomb and, to show him his error I went to the BBC and did a search for 'Pentagon' and found the CCTV images. That's when I made my first animation from the frames. Shortly before, American investigator, 'Agent Fescado,' provided on the website, http://www.humanunderground.com/11september/pent.html, his own analysis of the CCTV stills based on evidence that included his own enlargement of the first frame in the sequence with added overlays of different aircraft, using the position and size of the tail fin of the actual attack craft shown in the first frame as the reference for determining scale and position. What he found was that the profile of the plane in the frame when compared to the fitted overlay of a Boeing 757 where the tail fin of the overlay exactly covers the visible fin of the attack aircraft, was far too short to be a Boeing 757 (a rather obvious observation which nevertheless I later proved with mathematical rigor on my web site). What Fescado also found was a tail-fin fitted overlay of an F- 16 made for a very reasonable fit, as also do other small military aircraft such as S-3B Viking (a craft which has been suggested by one of Agent Fescado's sources as the true Pentagon-attack culprit.). Which small military aircraft was responsible, is a question that must not distract from the now-established finding that the Boeing 757 of Flight 77 was not the aircraft that the CCTV visually captured, an aircraft which in my estimation is less than half the length of the 757). Afterward, I found the Internet source for the MSNBC Flash animation of the CCTV images and extracted the Flash file out of their page, allowing me to use the inbuilt zoom function in Flash which includes a pixel interpolation function so I could quickly extract smoothed pictures. I've explained how to trace my steps in all this and 'do it yourself' at: http://www.bosankoe.btinternet.co.uk/howto.htm I then used a shareware version of Jasc Animation Shop to string this together in an 'animated GIF' which so many have now seen thanks to Dick Eastman. When comparing proportions in the first frame, the height of the Pentagon's wall, 70 feet, with the 155 feet length of the Boeing 757, it becomes blatantly obvious that actual attack plane is too small. This finding led me on to the size of the hole that the plane made. When the plane first crashed into the Pentagon, it first of all it made merely a hole and only later, after fire crews had arrived on the scene, did the wall of Pentagon above this hole collapse. Fortunately, someone who was on the nearby freeway and passing the Pentagon
[CTRL] [Fwd: [DLIFLC] LTC Steve Butler]
-Caveat Lector- ` via unofficial Defense Language Institute, Foreign Language Center Yahoo list A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ` ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- (I remember Butler when I was at DLI. He was quite an avid runner and qualifed second for DLI's men's team in the Army Ten Miler back in 2000.) Probe of officer's letter continues DLI colonel heads investigation By KEVIN HOWE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Investigation of an Air Force officer's criticism of President Bush in a letter to the editor has been turned over to his immediate superior at the Presidio of Monterey. Lt. Col. Steve Butler was serving as vice chancellor for student affairs at the Defense Language Institute when he wrote the letter, published in The Herald on May 26, which accuses Bush of allowing the Sept. 11 attacks to occur for political reasons. In his letter, which is attracting national media attention, Butler wrote that it was sleazy and contemptible for the president to withhold information from the public to help himself politically. Butler was suspended from his duties at the Monterey language school following publication of his letter, which could constitute a violation of Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Article 88 bars any commissioned officer from using contemptuous words about the president, Congress and various other officials. The investigation has been turned over to Air Force Col. Jeff Johnson, deputy commandant of the language school and Butler's immediate superior and rating officer, Air Force spokeswoman Valerie Burkes said Tuesday. It would be inappropriate to make further comments, Burkes said from her office at the Pentagon. An Article 88 offense is punishable by a maximum of confinement for one year, dismissal from the service and forfeiture of all pay and allowances. Guidelines for prosecuting the offense note that expressions of opinion made in a purely private conversation should not ordinarily be charged, but giving broad circulation to a written publication containing contemptuous words of the kind made punishable by this article, or the utterance of contemptuous words of this kind in the presence of military subordinates, aggravates the offense. The truth or falsity of the statements is immaterial, the guidelines say. The last actual court martial for violation of the article occurred in 1965, when Army 2nd Lt. Henry Howe was convicted of using contemptuous words against President Lyndon Johnson and of conduct unbecoming an officer after taking part in a demonstration against the Vietnam War. He was discharged and sentenced to two years of hard labor. In similar cases in 1999, two Marine officers, one active, the other a reservist, received administrative punishment for published writings criticizing President Bill Clinton following the Monica Lewinsky scandal. The Oct. 19, 1998, Navy Times published an editorial by Marine Corps Maj. Shane Sellers headlined Time to Send Clinton to the Showers, in which Sellers called Clinton a criminal and an adulterous liar. The Oct. 22 Washington Times published another editorial by Marine Corps Reserve Maj. Daniel Rabil called Please Impeach my Commander in Chief, which described Clinton as morally defective, integrity- impaired, a lying draft-dodger, a moral coward and a spoiled leftist. Burkes said Butler has been sent on temporary duty to Travis Air Force Base near Fairfield, but remains assigned to the Presidio. Butler has not commented publicly since the investigation began. His wife, Shelly, said her husband plans to retire in the next few weeks after 24 years in the Air Force. If you are receiving messages via email and/or would like to change your settings, goto:
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Suspicious after-market trade tanked gold, MiningWeb.com says
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- 3:57p ET Wednesday, June 5, 2002 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: MiningWeb.com has just reported an explanation for the plunge in the gold price today. The plunge, MiningWeb says, came in the wake of a large after-market trade in New York last night, with an unnamed fund liquidating 5,000 futures contracts, a move which knocked the price first to $326/oz, then to $324/oz, and finally to $321/oz, where some dealers reckon it has found support. Interestingly, one senior Johannesburg-based trader says the long-liquidation by the fund appears to have been an intentional strategy to lower the gold price. He could not give reasons for the fund's alleged intent, although he said it could have been a move designed to lower the gold price in order to buy in again at lower levels. The sale was executed using the 'Access' system on Comex, which allows for anonymous trading by large funds. This story probably will make MiningWeb's home page shortly: http://www.theminingweb.com But for now the full link is here: http://m1.mny.co.za/MGGold.nsf/Current/4225685F0043D1B242256BCF00643BA C?OpenDocument If that doesn't work for you, go to MiningWeb's home page, click on Gold at the top left, and the headline Why gold tanked will appear on the next page to open up. If MiningWeb is right, it would seem that certain shorts may be awfully eager to cover soon. CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
Re: [CTRL] Air Force colonel suspended after bad-mouthing Bush, Court-martial...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/5/02 8:16:16 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good Lord Almighty. Under Clinton military law prohibited NOT using contemptuous words against the president. Sure seemed that way! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Hands of Zionists are on U.S. Intelligence Failures
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- The Hands of Zionists are on U.S. Intelligence Failures by Ernesto Cienfuegos La Voz de Aztlan Los Angeles, Alta California - 6/5/2002 - (ACN) This afternoon, the Joint House-Senate Intelligence Committee will go behind close doors once more to hear testimony concerning intelligence lapses by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) that may have a bearing on who actually was behind the World Trade Center and Pentagon terrorist attacks. Today, the joint committee will interview FBI Special Agent Coleen Rowley for a second time. Special Agent Rowley says FBI headquarters ignored her office's pleas in the weeks before September 11 to aggressively investigate information she sent that may have prevented the attacks. It looks like upper levels of the FBI purposely trashed the information in order to allow the terrorist attacks to take place. These upper levels of the FBI may be the same Zionists who are also sabotaging the stalled Anthrax terrorist investigation. On February 26 of this year we published FBI Closes in on Anthrax Terrorist : Prime Suspect is a Zionist in which we reported shocking activities at the U.S. Army's Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases in Fort Detrick, Maryland involving Jewish microbiologist Dr. Philip M. Zack. We reported that according to certain FBI sources, the arrest of Dr. Philip M. Zack was imminent. Dr. Zack and others of his Jewish cohorts were conducting unauthorized clandestine research at night on weapons grade versions of the Anthrax spores. As part of the elaborate scheme, the Zionists were going to frame a colleague, Egyptian born microbiologist Dr. Ayaad Assaad. Now this important case seems to have met the same fate as that of the communique from Special Agent Rowley. There appears to be high level FBI Zionists working for the interests of Israel instead of for the interests of the USA and they are sabotaging the investigative work of patriotic FBI agents. The Joint House-Senate Intelligence Committee investigation underway should also include efforts to investigate possible FBI/MOSSAD connections as well. More and more American people are becoming suspicious that much of what is occurring in covert intelligence work is aimed at benefiting the Zionist State of Israel and to find fault in Arab nations. It now appears that the WTC and Pentagon terrorist attacks have benefited Israel in many ways. Not only have these attacks benefited Israel but they have also consolidated the political power and influence of USA based Jewish politicians and other Zionist interests. The theory that Osama bin Laden was responsible is becoming more and more fishy! *** La Voz de Aztlan http://www.aztlan.net/rowley.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL
[CTRL] Fwd: [global_news_net] GNN - RALPH REED, THE ADL AND THE FAMILY VALUES PRESID...
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- Title: GNN -Caveat Lector- Yahoo! Groups My Groups | global_news_net Main Page GNN ***GLOBAL NEWS NET*** Newsbreaks Analysis Commentary Awareness Leading to Solutions RALPH REED, THE ADL AND THE FAMILY VALUES PRESIDENT by Mark Dankof June 5, 2002 Thanks to the usual tireless efforts of editor Herman Otten, Christian News, readers are now well nigh aware of the full-page paid advertisement of the Anti-Defamation League in the May 2 New York Times. The advertisement is entitled, We People of Faith Stand Firmly With Israel, and is penned in its entirety by erstwhile Christian Coalition President, Ralph Reed. Reed, described by the ad as one who served as a senior advisor to the Bush campaign, and presently as chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, has authored an article of incredible significanceboth in what is said and what has been left unsaid. For openers, Reed informs his national mass-media audience that we people of faith back Israel and the ideology of Zionism. This bit of chutzpah conveniently leaves out the people of faith comprised of orthodox Lutherans and Catholics, evangelical Reformed communions, and Eastern Orthodoxy -- not to mention such orthodox Jewish fellowships as Neturei Karta, which reject the entire package of assumptions which attempt to Biblically legitimize the creation of modern Israel. Reed also neglects to inform his audience that the school of Biblical interpretation known as Dispensationalism, which undergirds the ideas in the ADL advertisement of May 2, has only been in existence since the revelation given to John Nelson Darby of the Plymouth Brethren in 1830 by Scottish prophetess Margaret MacDonald. It is a system of thought unknown to any Christian theologian of substance prior to that time, including Saint Augustine, Martin Luther, and John Calvin. Mr. Reed also neglects to mention other inconvenient problems posed by Zionist ideology and the support of the Jewish state by much of the American Christian Right. He fails to discuss the Socialist ideology which undergirded most of the Ashkenazic Jews of the Labor Party who were essential to the formulation of what became Israel in 1948. The dispossession of 750,000 Palestinians of generationally held property (including many Christian Palestinians) is conveniently omitted from discussion as well, along with any reference to a multitude of Israeli espionage operations levied against the United States. These include the purloining of nuclear raw materials from an American plant in Pennsylvania for Israels nuclear bomb production facility at Dimona; the Pollard spy case; and the recently discovered Israeli art student network operating intelligence cells within this country. Mr. Reed also omits Israels illegal occupation of West Bank territories, and the recent violent deaths of three witnesses scheduled to testify at the Belgian international court against Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon on compelling charges of war crimes stemming from the latters alleged involvement in the slaughter of Palestinian refugees in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in southern Lebanon in 1982. How people of faith should deal with these issues and the questions raised by them is never addressed by Pat Robertsons chief ex-PR consultant. Which brings us to another interesting question. Abraham Foxman, the National Director of the ADL, has made a career out of caricaturing evangelical Christians as closet Nazis, anti-Semites, and racists, including Mr. Reeds former employer, Mr. Robertson. What are we thus to
[CTRL] Truth Serums Torture
-Caveat Lector- http://www.consortiumnews.com/2002/060402a.htmlTruth Serums Torture By Martin A. Lee June 4, 2002 Truth Serums Torture By Martin A. Lee June 4, 2002 On U.S. pundit shows this year, a hot topic has been whether captured Taliban fighters and alleged al-Qaeda operatives should be subjected to "truth serums" or physical torture to make them talk. Hundreds of captured Taliban and al-Qaeda belligerents have been grilled, but apparently little useful has been gleaned. Frustrated U.S. interrogators have complained that Afghan battlefield prisoners employ aliases, deceit and other tactics to withstand interrogations. In debating how to extract more information, cable-TV commentators and other pundits generally have treated "truth serum" as a softer means of extracting information compared to more traditional torture, with commentators weighing the pros and cons of the two approaches. But beyond the question â does "truth serum" work? â is a long history of practice that blurs the moral lines between the use of interrogation drugs and more overt methods of torture. Former CIA and FBI director William Webster put the "truth serum" issue into prominent play in April when he urged use of drugs to loosen the tongues of suspects, such as Osama bin Laden's aide Abu Zubaida and captives held in cages at Camp X-Ray at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The debate soon spread to cable-TV talk shows. On Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor," for instance, retired Marine Lt. Col. Bill Cowan said he doubted "truth serum" would work but hoped Webster's suggestion would lead the Bush administration to try torture. "Maybe it'll be an entrée to take us to the next step," Cowan said. "I kid around with people about plugging them up to a 110-volt outlet and flipping the switch if they don't want to talk." Guest host John Kasich demurred that many experts don't see torture as an effective interrogation technique either, "and I'm not talking about somebody who's worrying about being politically correct," but even "people inside of some of our best intelligence organizations." Cowan disputed the view that torture is ineffective. "I'll be honest by saying that I served a lot of time in Vietnam, and in some cases where I worked on prisoner operations, we did go a little bit beyond what normal interrogation techniques would give you, and we got phenomenal information," he said. [Fox News, April 26, 2002] Wish List Yet, U.S. spymasters â knowing that torture subjects may simply tell an interrogator what he wants to hear â have long yearned for a drug that could pull reliable information out of an unwilling subject. A sure-fire truth drug has been high on the wish list of U.S. intelligence agencies at least since 1942, when scientists working for the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the CIAâs wartime predecessor, were asked to develop a chemical substance that could break down the psychological defenses of enemy spies and POWs, thereby making it easier to obtain information from them. After testing several compounds, the OSS scientists selected a potent extract of marijuana as the best available "truth serum." The cannabis concoction was given the code name TD, meaning Truth Drug. When injected into food or tobacco cigarettes, TD helped loosen the reserve of recalcitrant interrogation subjects. The effects of the drug were described in a once-classified OSS report: âTD appears to relax all inhibitions and to deaden the areas of the brain which govern an individualâs discretion and caution. . . . [G]enerally speaking, the reaction will be one of great loquacity and hilarity.â In the end, marijuana didnât fit the bill as the ultimate "truth serum," but it proved to be a gateway drug that set U.S. military and espionage scientists on a path to creating more powerful and dangerous chemicals. After World War II, American intelligence stepped up efforts to find a more effective "truth serum." In 1947, the U.S. Navy launched Project Chatter, which included experiments with mescaline, a hallucinogenic drug derived from the peyote cactus (with effects similar to LSD). Mescaline was studied as a possible speech-inducing agent after the Navy learned that Nazi doctors at the Dachau concentration camp had used it in mind-control experiments. The Nazis concluded that it was âimpossible to impose oneâs will on another person, even when the strongest dose of mescaline had been given.â Twilight Zone The CIA also embarked upon an extensive research program geared toward developing unorthodox interrogation techniques. Two methods showed promise in the late 1940s. The first involved narco-hypnosis. A CIA psychologist attempted to induce a trance state after administering a mild sedative. A second technique relied on a combination of two different drugs with contradictory effects, which were injected intravenously into both arms of an interrogation subject. Flick the switch and a heavy dose of
[CTRL] Herr Mueller: by what name should we address you?
-Caveat Lector- http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/sartrejp/WRACK/id56.html Herr Mueller: by what name should we address you? When the head of the secret police took charge, the people of the fair land looked the other way. A veteran of war in the service of his country, he was well trained for the task that he was assigned. Police work came natural, and his talents were well suited to collecting information about members of groups that were enemies of the State. When he was put in charge of the secret police he involved himself in the tracking down of potential opponents to the Fatherland. His methods became infamous. His orders were followed with total obedience. And the carnage that ensued, will never be forgotten! Or has it? The name of this man was Mueller. You heard of him, haven't you? Just recently that name appeared in the press with the announcement of a change in his mission. The domestic and national force of federal policemen, would now expand their role and scope. Borders would be crossed, warrants would be abundant and interrogation would be intense. Fear would be their weapon and the snitch their tongue. Anyone who posed a threat of terror against the regime, would feel the wrath from this Reich. Who is this man? If you think this person responds to the name Robert, you may be half right. But this top cop was born with the name of Heinrich, and his police force was not the FBI but the Gestapo. Herr Mueller was the prototype of this vast enforcement spy network. It would be most difficult to present a soft and sagacious absolution for their work. Who among us could defend or advocate their deeds? So why are so many Americans remaining docile in the face of a pattern that some of us view with deep concern? Some will say it could never happen here in America. Well, have you ever heard of Pastor Niemoller? You certainly know his story - a German clergyman under the Nazi regime, later confessed that when the Nazis attacked opposing groups such as the Communists, he was a little uneasy. But, he said, after all, he was not a communist, so he did nothing. When the Nazis began to attack the Jews he was even more uneasy, but he still did nothing. Then they attacked the Church, and because he was a clergyman he tried to do something, but it was too late. But have you ever heard this account from the pulpit in your church? "We have no more thought of using our own powers to escape the arm of the authorities than had the Apostles of old. No more are we ready to keep silent at man's behest when God commands us to speak. For it is, and must remain, the case that we must obey God rather than man." This subject is painful for many Americans to confront. They are comfortable in their safe cocoon of denial. The facts don't matter and for many of them, their rights are optional. When the priorities of the FBI are transformed into a blueprint to turn America upside down, we 'Old Cause' conservatives should take pause. You don't have to be a card carrying ACLU member to agree with their spokeswoman Laura Murphy: "You no longer have to do anything unlawful in order to get that knock on the door . . . You can be doing a perfectly legal activity like worshipping or talking in a chat room, they can spy on you anyway." As for the expanded scope and mission of the FBI is it correct when she says: "The government is rewarding failure" ? The excuse that we are at war is as bogus as the claims that the 'Carnivore' network has been tamed with its change in name to DCS1000. But what is the justification for a systemic monitoring program of private communications to begin with? By their own admissions, they capture e-mails unconnected to targets of an investigation. And we are suppose to trust the FBI to obey the law! Now the Herr Mueller overhaul plan circumvents and lifts restrictions on conducting surveillance at public gatherings. If this isn't a return to the Cointelpro domestic surveillance program of J. Edgar Hoover what would you call it? But we are supposed to be at war! Protecting the public is supposed to be the primary mission . . . Where did we hear that before? >From the National Archives and Records Administration we learn that Heinrich Mueller managed security and counterespionage operations. His most spectacular counterespionage success was the development of a double-cross network, capturing a number of these agents and "turn" them. This sure sounds like a function that the CIA is suppose to be charged with. Now we are being conditioned to accept that the FBI deserves an expanded role to conduct these kind of operations. What is the point, even if you are one that encourages such operations, when all the government would need to do is absolve the CIA from the 'so called' domestic restrictions? Could it be that the "Agency" is so involved with waging their own private wars that they forgot about spying? So Robert Mueller, comes to the rescue in order to avoid turf disputes, and wants to
[CTRL] Anglican and Kentucky clergy abuse
-Caveat Lector- this may be heavy for survivors The Roman Catholic bishop in Western Kentucky revealed Tuesday that he put priests back into active ministry after they admitted to sexually abusing children. Anglican trust hunts for more abuse victims - 6/6/02 by Gregg Wycherly More children than previously thought may have been sexually abused at an Anglican Church trust foster home. The Anglican Trust For Women Children said yesterday that it was trying to track other children who may have been abused 30 years ago at Blackwood House in Herne Bay. Three children are known to have been sexually abused and the trust has paid $75,000 compensation to one. Last month, Ramon Doughty, a 72-year-old retired builder from Matamata, admitted 20 charges of sexual abuse between 1967 and 1974 involving three girls. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=2045198thesection=newsthe subsection=general Area bishop discloses past sex abuse cases - By Maureen Hayden, Courier Press staff - 6/5/02 Evansville - The Roman Catholic bishop in Western Kentucky revealed Tuesday that he put priests back into active ministry after they admitted to sexually abusing children. The incidents were not reported to police and confidential cash settlements were paid to the victims and their families, according to Bishop John McRaith of the Owensboro Catholic diocese, which covers Western Kentucky. http://www.myinky.com/ecp/local_news/article/0,1626,ECP_745_1189045,00.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Israel Blows Up Ancient Christian Church
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- La Voz de Aztlan News Bulletin Israel blows up a very old church GREEK ORTHODOX SANTA BARBARA CHURCH Abboud , Palestine June 1, 2002 It has come to our attention that Israeli soldiers destroyed entirely the Greek Orthodox Church ,Santa Barbara, in Abboud village near Ramallah. The Church was built in the 4th century, and it withstood all the invasions that took place in Palestine, except the most barbaric invasion carried out by Israeli soldiers. There can be no justification or excuse for this unacceptable aggression against Christianity, and against the norms of the civilized word and the sacred places . The international community must speak up, must act now, and must punish the Government of Israel for this heinous crime. The responsibility of the international community cannot be ignored after it established Israel as a country above the law. We are calling on all Christians around the world, and all those who value the sanctity of religious sites, to show solidarity with the people of Palestine, and to look for ways to punish the Government of Israel in response. Moreover, Israeli soldiers who carried out this crime must be brought to justice. Those raising their voices and calling for reform within Palestinian society must prove that they are true to their values, so they must condemn the shameless destruction of the Greek Orthodox Church in Abboud. Enough double standards. From: THE LAITY COMMITTEE IN THE HOLY LAND * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Forwarded by La Voz de Aztlan http://www.aztlan.net A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: Truth Serums Torture
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- http://www.consortiumnews.com/2002/060402a.htmlTruth Serums Torture By Martin A. Lee June 4, 2002 Truth Serums Torture By Martin A. Lee June 4, 2002 On U.S. pundit shows this year, a hot topic has been whether captured Taliban fighters and alleged al-Qaeda operatives should be subjected to "truth serums" or physical torture to make them talk. Hundreds of captured Taliban and al-Qaeda belligerents have been grilled, but apparently little useful has been gleaned. Frustrated U.S. interrogators have complained that Afghan battlefield prisoners employ aliases, deceit and other tactics to withstand interrogations. In debating how to extract more information, cable-TV commentators and other pundits generally have treated "truth serum" as a softer means of extracting information compared to more traditional torture, with commentators weighing the pros and cons of the two approaches. But beyond the question â does "truth serum" work? â is a long history of practice that blurs the moral lines between the use of interrogation drugs and more overt methods of torture. Former CIA and FBI director William Webster put the "truth serum" issue into prominent play in April when he urged use of drugs to loosen the tongues of suspects, such as Osama bin Laden's aide Abu Zubaida and captives held in cages at Camp X-Ray at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The debate soon spread to cable-TV talk shows. On Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor," for instance, retired Marine Lt. Col. Bill Cowan said he doubted "truth serum" would work but hoped Webster's suggestion would lead the Bush administration to try torture. "Maybe it'll be an entrée to take us to the next step," Cowan said. "I kid around with people about plugging them up to a 110-volt outlet and flipping the switch if they don't want to talk." Guest host John Kasich demurred that many experts don't see torture as an effective interrogation technique either, "and I'm not talking about somebody who's worrying about being politically correct," but even "people inside of some of our best intelligence organizations." Cowan disputed the view that torture is ineffective. "I'll be honest by saying that I served a lot of time in Vietnam, and in some cases where I worked on prisoner operations, we did go a little bit beyond what normal interrogation techniques would give you, and we got phenomenal information," he said. [Fox News, April 26, 2002] Wish List Yet, U.S. spymasters â knowing that torture subjects may simply tell an interrogator what he wants to hear â have long yearned for a drug that could pull reliable information out of an unwilling subject. A sure-fire truth drug has been high on the wish list of U.S. intelligence agencies at least since 1942, when scientists working for the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the CIAâs wartime predecessor, were asked to develop a chemical substance that could break down the psychological defenses of enemy spies and POWs, thereby making it easier to obtain information from them. After testing several compounds, the OSS scientists selected a potent extract of marijuana as the best available "truth serum." The cannabis concoction was given the code name TD, meaning Truth Drug. When injected into food or tobacco cigarettes, TD helped loosen the reserve of recalcitrant interrogation subjects. The effects of the drug were described in a once-classified OSS report: âTD appears to relax all inhibitions and to deaden the areas of the brain which govern an individualâs discretion and caution. . . . [G]enerally speaking, the reaction will be one of great loquacity and hilarity.â In the end, marijuana
[CTRL] GO LEFT, YOUNG MAN
-Caveat Lector- http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html June 5, 2002 GO LEFT, YOUNG MAN Conservatives are kneejerk authoritarian militarists â and the example of the Cato Institute should be a lesson to us all It was shocking, and I had to re-read the press release just to make sure: was the libertarian Cato Institute really saying that they had "no problem" with the FBI's new "guidelines" that gave the cops a green light to spy on domestic groups? For the fifth time, my widened eyes scanned the page: "No Problem With New FBI Surveillance Guidelines, Scholar Says WASHINGTON--The Justice Department is expected to announce today new guidelines giving greater latitude to FBI agents to monitor Internet sites, libraries, and religious institutions without first having to offer evidence of potential criminal activity." So, the feds just want permission to surf the internet and go to the library? Uh, I don't think so. Does anyone really believe they aren't already doing these things? Aside from that, the Cato release is highly selective in describing just what the feds intend to "monitor": it fails to mention that they'll also be watching ideological interest groups, including nonprofit thinktanks like the Cato Institute and Antiwar.com, not to mention legal political parties, publishing enterprises, and any other "public" group that suits their fancy. To hear Cato tell it, this is just a routine matter, no biggie, so move along, there's nothing to see here. In reality, however, this is the authorization for a police state, in which supposedly legal activities will be "monitored" in order to make sure that only the bravest of the brave will participate. After all, how many people â not cowards, but people who have lives apart from politics â will become active in a peace group under these circumstances? PODDY'S PREDICTION It's interesting, in this context, to go back and see what Norman Podhoretz was saying a few months ago to the assembled conservative hotshots attending the American Enterprise Institute's annual awards dinner. This is where the right-wing elite meet to greet and you can be sure officials with the Justice Department were in the audience as Poddy warned that a resurgent antiwar movement would derail the "war on terrorism" just as surely as in the tumultuous 1960s: "Of one thing we can be sure: as the war widens, opposition will widen along with it. We could already see this happening after President Bush spoke of an "axis of evil" in his State of the Union speech two weeks ago. In this single image the President brilliantly defined our present enemies as a fusion of those we fought in World War Two with the evil empire we battled in World War Three, which is the name Eliot A. Cohen has rightly suggested we give to the cold war. The President now promised an expansion of the war to regimes that may or may not have been directly involved in 9/11â¦" Podhoretz was not at all optimistic about the possibility of forestalling another "anti-American" assault spearheaded by the "campus left" â and, just like in Vietnam, he fretted â we would be deprived of a victory abroad by traitors on the home front. While his fellow neoconservatives were confidant that everything was changed, post-9/11, and the administration would now have a green light to invade, and, if convenient, annex the whole of the Middle East, Podhoretz wasn't so sure. He spent 90 minutes explaining why he thought the national mood of unconditional support for the government was more likely to be quite ephemeral. In spite of his pessimistic tone, however, Poddy rallied his troops. He urged them to conduct an "intellectual battle" against antiwar forces on the Right as well as the Left â and now John Ashcroft is invoking extraordinary powers to "monitor" the groups whose loyalty is being questioned by the War Party. It looks like the call of the amateur Thought Police is being answered by the professionals. FIRST STRIKE The other day, the President spoke about the necessity of launching "preemptive" strikes in the "war on terrorism," and that's exactly what this new federal power grab is all about. As this administration gets ready to launch a major war in the Middle East â a war opposed even by the top guns in the Pentagon â they are moving to chill any and all dissent. Want your name on a list, your own personal dossier kept in a government computer? No? Then don't get involved in any activities Norman Podhoretz â or, worse, John Ashcroft â might disapprove of, and you'll be okay. THE CASE OF THE TELL-TALE SEARCH PHRASE It's funny, but the other day I was looking at our hit report, which gives out an amazing array of information. One such interesting tidbit is a list of all the most popular search phrases used by visitors to reach our site. Two days running last week, I just happened to check this feature and discovered that, on both days, one of the most popular phrases was "Jessica Gavora."
[CTRL] Job opporutunites at opec
-Caveat Lector- For all of you radical environmentalists who have been doing a good job for opec and not being paid for it go to: http://www.opec.org/homepage/Vacancies.htm or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] good luck! visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The CIA and the 'James Bond' complex.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.intelbriefing.com/afi/afi020605.htm The CIA and the 'James Bond' complex. The CIA have opted once again to go down the muscular, 'tough guy' path in an attempt to defeat the international terrorist menace. A highly secretive new covert action group has been formed as an offshoot of the Special Activities Division to operate under the direction of a revamped CTC or Counter Terrorism Center. Its personnel comprise the best of the CIA's paramilitaries with the addition of a number of US Army and US Navy counter-revolutionary warfare specialists to strengthen both its overall combat ability and to improve co-operation with the US armed forces and the Special Operations Command in particular. However, unlike the Delta Force and Green Berets for instance, the men and women of this group will operate only in civilian dress, their operations which will often slid into areas of possible political embarrassment, will remain deniable and like the terrorists they hunt, they will not be covered by most international agreements if captured. They can expect and almost certainly will receive summary execution at the hands of their enemies. However, unlike 'James Bond' they will only rarely know who their real targets are. A lack of HUMINT or Human Intelligence resources in the field has bedevilled the CTC's attempts to successfully get to grips with the Islamic militants, it is compounded by the sheer difficulty faced by the CIA over the years in penetrating terrorist groups based on a tight cell structure. Even the odd success only leads to the exposure of a few low-grade terrorists or supporters and rarely to the prime movers behind their activities. Lack of interest in dangerous, difficult and expensive long-term and deep-cover operations, a chronic risk avoidance managerial style and the all pervasive fear of the political fallout in Washington should an operation 'belly-up' has led to a gross non-involvement in developing the skills, contacts and information sources that the CIA is now so desperately scrambling to either relearn or re-establish. The new group only as good as the intelligence it gets However well staffed and funded this new all action anti-terrorist force may be, it will only be as good as the intelligence analysis of its fanatical opponents by other departments of the CIA and the rest of the US intelligence community; the NSA, NRO and DIA. A disastrous lack of intelligence analysts, Middle East expertise, linguists and even photo-interpreters has seriously undermined the CIA and US Special Forces operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere. Even when critical intelligence material has been obtained its true value has often not been recognized or has been analysed too slowly to allow it to be used effectively. These are not small or inconsequential matters, raw intelligence exists, often as in the case of the NSA in overwhelming quantities, but accurate, timely analysis and dissemination to the CIA officer in the field or to the Pentagon has been and is likely to continue to be in very short supply. Meanwhile, the FBI in response to a barrage of criticism aimed at its most recent attempts to reform in the face of the terrorist threat has finally decided to delegate more operational independence to its field officers. In a move to encourage a fast response and the use of greater individual initiative, FBI officers will no longer be required to go through the normal chain of command to the Washington Headquarters if the circumstances demand immediate action. However, FBI officers are well aware that such free-wheeling actions sit uncomfortably within the FBI's organizational structure and the fear of the consequences of 'getting in wrong' are likely to continue to seriously inhibit initiative and the wish to respond decisively to a terrorist threat. Richard M. Bennett A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy
[CTRL] eFreePalestine! Fwd: CPT: Documenting Israeli War Crimes (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 00:33:02 - From: nicholasd108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: eFreePalestine! Fwd: CPT: Documenting Israeli War Crimes let's call 'em US/Israeli war crimes: hkawas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: CPTnet editor, Webster, NY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: HEBRON DISTRICT: Angry Settlers CPTnet June 4, 2002 HEBRON DISTRICT: Angry Settlers by Bob Holmes On May 22, CPT received a call from the Palestine Land Defense Committee asking if the team could send someone to photograph a destroyed Palestinian vegetable garden, vineyard and orchard belonging to Mohammed (not his real name.) Israeli settlers had bulldozed the land four days earlier. His property lies next to the Israeli settlement of Karme Tzur near Halhul, just north of Hebron. CPTers Kathy Kamphoefner (Beijing) and Bob Holmes (Toronto) met Mohammed, who from behind some trees, pointed out his three dunams (3/4 acre). Three years ago the Israeli military had ordered him not to go there. The CPTers, approaching on the settler road, were challenged by Israeli security personnel on the far side of a fence next to Mohammed's land. Kamphoefner and Holmes proceeded to take photos and walked away. A white car came after them and three armed and angry Israeli settler guards stepped out. Yelling, they grabbed Holmes, and shoving him roughly towards the vehicle said he was under arrest. Holmes told them they had no authority to make arrests and asked that they call the Israeli police. Then four Israeli soldiers arrived in a jeep. One soldier pushed Holmes against the car and demanded his ID. Refusing, Holmes asked again that the police be called. The still angry settler guards then demanded the film. When Holmes refused to hand it over, they forcibly took both cameras, wrestling Kamphoefner's from her backpack. A soldier ripped out the film and exposed it. Holmes' digital card was removed and confiscated. With cameras back in hand, the CPTers walked away, somewhat surprised that the soldiers had not detained them longer. Fortunately, the card removed from the digital camera was blank. The one with the photos documenting this latest destruction of Palestinian farmland was safely in a CPT pocket. --- End forwarded message --- ++ eFreePalestine! ++ www.FreePalestine.com No Peace Without Occupation Free PALESTINE! ++ eFreePalestine! ++ Blessed are the Peacemakers NOT the Warmakers! Chronic INJUSTICE is the ROOT of TERRORISM! www.FreePalestineCampaign.org Be a Peacemaker in PALESTINE! Fighting TERRORISM while AIDING OCCUPATION is Moronic! END TERRORISM by ENDING Israeli OCCUPATION Stupid! SHARON NOW = MILOSEVIC Then = HITLER IN 1942! Peace Only in a Legislatively DEzIONIZED Secular State! Aiding Israeli OCCUPATION = Aiding TERRORISM! Where Does Our Simplistic Absolutist President Stand?! ++ eFreePalestine! ++ www.Badil.org The RIGHT of RETURN! www.IndictSharon.net Indict the BUTCHER! www.PMWatch.org PALESTINE MEDIA WATCH! www.PalestineRemembered.com PALESTINE for DUMMIES! www.Al-Awda.org/WB_Fund.htm Give to Plundered PALESTINE! www.InternationalAnswer.org Act Not to STOP WAR and RACISM www.Al-Awda.org/petition.htm END zIONIST Profit from OCCUPATION! www.RamallahOnline.com Our Occupied Home in Ramallah PALESTINE! www.groups.Yahoo.com/group/FreePalestine/messages ARCHIVES! www.PalestineChronicle.com News and Views from PALESTINE! www.DocumentaryPhotographs.com Pictures from PALESTINE! www.PalestineMonitor.org Monitor PALESTINE! www.WRMEA.com zIONIST-Free MEDIA! ++ eFreePalestine! ++ A Mind WORD is Stronger than a Hand sWORD! ~ FORWARD to the Wilderness! FreePalestine! is America's Secular WILDERNESS VOICE of PALESTINE!* [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUBSCRIBE NOW :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe :-( [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speak up on FreePalestine! Views expressed are the author's only* ++ eFreePalestine! ++ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and
[CTRL] India plans war within two weeks
-Caveat Lector- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/06/06/ wkash06.xmlsSheet=/portal/2002/06/06/ixport.html Thursday 6 June 2002 India plans war within two weeks By Rahul Bedi in New Delhi (Filed: 06/06/2002) India's military is seeking final authorisation to invade the Pakistani side of divided Kashmir in the middle of this month to destroy the camps of Islamic militants. An activist of the All-India Anti-terrorist Front brandishes his rifle as he denounces Pakistan The planned campaign would be similar to the American attack in Afghanistan, in which air strikes would be followed by ground assaults by special forces transported by helicopter, military sources said yesterday. Smart bombs and other advanced ordnance are reported to have been loaded on to French-made Mirage 2000H and Russian-built MiG-27 aircraft at bases in northern and western India. As Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, strengthened his warning to Britons to leave the region, military planners in Delhi expressed confidence that a war would not boil over into a nuclear exchange. A senior Indian official accused Britain, America and other western countries of adding their weight to Pakistan's nuclear blackmail by telling their citizens to leave. This is jumping the gun, he said. Our intention is not to have an all-out war. It would be a limited action. Most senior Indian officers expect that the conflict would last about a week before pressure from America and other powers forced a ceasefire. One officer said he believed there was only the slimmest chance of nuclear weapons being used. We will call Pakistan's nuclear bluff, he said. It [the nuclear factor] cannot deter us any more. The Indians want to move before the arrival of heavy monsoon rains at the beginning of July make military operations impossible. The tension was underlined by the Foreign Office's second warning to Britons to leave the region. Last week Mr Straw said they should consider leaving. Yesterday he said they should do so amid evidence that the first advice had been widely ignored. Officials say there are some 20,000 Britons in India, but unofficial estimates are much higher. As America issued equally robust advice to its 60,000 citizens, a senior Indian planning officer said that Washington and London knew that action was imminent. The US-led move out of Delhi indicates that Washington has been informed of India's intentions of hitting Pakistan and is taking them seriously, he said. Japan's foreign minister, Yoriko Kawaguchi, cancelled a trip to the region hours after speaking to Mr Straw. Tokyo refused to give a reason, saying only that there were various considerations. India's plan of attack is to seize and hold tracts of Pakistani Kashmir, providing the government with a much-needed military triumph and the military with improved defensive positions against Islamic militants. Officers indicated that the air force was poised to execute a strategy developed over several years to strike at 50 to 75 militant bases and a handful of other targets in Kashmir. The Indians would then send troops across the high mountain passes in helicopters. Planners expect major casualties as the helicopters cross four lines of Pakistani air defences equipped with advanced radar. Targets will include a bridge across the Karakoram highway connecting China to the region and at least three others linking Pakistani Kashmir to the rest of the country. Their destruction would prevent China from replenishing its ally Pakistan's weaponry. It would also cut off supply routes from Pakistan to front-line units. India's broad strategy is to execute air strikes that will induce Pakistan into extending the conflict by opening a wider front. President Bush telephoned both leaders to urge calm and the crisis dominated talks in London between Tony Blair and Donald Rumsfeld, the American defence secretary, who is on his way to India and Pakistan. The two countries have massed more than a million men on their border since the crisis began with an attack by militants on the Indian parliament in December. Relations worsened after another attack last month in which 22 wives and children of Indian army personnel were killed. In the latest diplomatic rebuff, Pakistan rejected an Indian offer to establish a joint border monitoring force to help halt incursions by Islamic militants into Indian-controlled Kashmir. India's military believes that it now has political backing for war. An officer said the beleaguered ruling coalition was fully aware that backing down at this juncture would mean political suicide. The Indian armed forces have been losing men for 13 years in fighting in Kashmir. By attacking soon, an officer said, they planned to set back Pakistan's military capability by at least 30 years, pushing it into the military dark ages. India has assured Washington that its forces would give the American bases at Jacobabad, Pasni and Dalbandin close to the Afghan border a wide berth.
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: The Peculiar Duplicity Of Ari Fleischer
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.thenewrepublic.com The Peculiar Duplicity Of Ari Fleischer Defense Secretary By Jonathan Chait Post date: 05.30.02 Issue date: 06.10.02 Ari Fleischer, the White House press secretary, is famous. But I knew him back when he was merely infamous, as chief Republican spokesman on the House Ways and Means Committee. He spoke with a cool, quick certainty, unhindered by any sense of conscience. A profile in GQ-- not many Hill staffers receive such attention--dubbed him the flack out of hell. The typical press secretary shovels out fairly blunt propaganda, the kind reporters can spot a mile away and sidestep easily. But Fleischer has a way of blindsiding you, leaving you disoriented and awestruck. Once, about six years ago, I called to ask him something about tax reform. Knowing Fleischer, I tried to anticipate his possible replies and map out countermeasures to cut off his escape routes. I began the conversation by bringing up what seemed a simple premise: His boss, Bill Archer, favored replacing the income tax with a national sales tax. Fleischer immediately interrupted to insist that Archer did not support any such thing. I was dumbfounded. Forgetting my line of questioning, I frantically tried to recall how it was I knew that Archer had advocated a sales tax. But in the face of this confident assertion, my mind went blank. Wha ... uh, really? I stammered. He assured me it was true. Completely flustered, I thanked him and hung up. I rummaged through my files, trying to piece together my reality. Didn't everybody who followed these things know that Archer favored a sales tax? Yes--here was one newspaper story, and another, and finally a crinkled position paper, authored by Bill Archer, explaining why we needed a national sales tax. Of course he favored it. Fleischer had made the whole thing up. Most press secretaries spin. Spin is a clever, lawyerly art, often performed with a knowing wink, which involves casting your boss's actions in the most favorable light. Practitioners of spin don't deny generally accepted facts or contest a reporter's right to ask questions. Rather, they emphasize alternative facts as a way of establishing the difference between what their boss is perceived to have done and what he or she actually did. During the Clinton administration, spin came to symbolize everything reporters loathed about what they saw as a too-clever-by-half presidency. The Washington Post's Howard Kurtz, in his book Spin Cycle, describes Bill Clinton's spinsters as trying to defend the indefensible, by, for instance, insisting that White House coffees with donors were not fund-raisers because the money was raised beforehand. But what Fleischer does, for the most part, is not really spin. It's a system of disinformation--blunter, more aggressive, and, in its own way, more impressive than spin. Much of the time Fleischer does not engage with the logic of a question at all. He simply denies its premises--or refuses to answer it on the grounds that it conflicts with a Byzantine set of rules governing what questions he deems appropriate. Fleischer has broken new ground in the dark art of flackdom: Rather than respond tendentiously to questions, he negates them altogether. I. The Audacious Fib Like any skilled craftsman, Fleischer has a variety of techniques at his disposal. The first is the one he used to such great effect at Ways and Means: He cuts off the question with a blunt, factual assertion. Sometimes the assertion is an outright lie; sometimes it's on the edge. But
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] How the Bank for International Settlements rigged gold even 20 years ago
-Caveat Lector- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- 9:50p ET Wednesday, June 5, 2002 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: Thanks to Sean Corrigan of Capital Insight in Britain for sending along this 1983 Harper's magazine article by Edward Jay Epstein about the Bank for International Settlements. While the essay is almost 20 years old, it has just as much relevance today, when the world's big economic decisions continue to be made by an unelected few behind closed doors. Note particularly how the rigging of the gold price by the BIS is acknowledged in this essay. Has anything changed, and can anyone square any of this with simple democracy? CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. * * * Ruling the World of Money By Edward Jay Epstein Harper's Magazine, 1983 Ten times a year -- once a month except in August and October -- a small group of well dressed men arrives in Basel, Switzerland. Carrying overnight bags and attache cases, they discreetly check into the Euler Hotel, across from the railroad station. They have come to this sleepy city from places as disparate as Tokyo, London, and Washington, D.C., for the regular meeting of the most exclusive, secretive, and powerful supranational club in the world. Each of the dozen or so visiting members has his own office at the club, with secure telephone lines to his home country. The members are fully serviced by a permanent staff of about 300, including chauffeurs, chefs, guards, messengers, translators, stenographers, secretaries, and researchers. Also at their disposal are a brilliant research unit and an ultramodern computer, as well as a secluded country club with tennis courts and a swimming pool, a few kilometres outside of Basel. The membership of this club is restricted to a handful of powerful men who determine daily the interest rate, the availability of credit, and the money supply of the banks in their own countries. They include the governors of the U.S. Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, the Bank of Japan, the Swiss National Bank, and the German Bundesbank. The club controls a bank with a $40 billion kitty in cash, government securities, and gold that constitutes about one tenth of the world's available foreign exchange. The profits earned just from renting out its hoard of gold (second only to that of Fort Knox in value) are more than sufficient to pay for the expenses of the entire organization. And the unabashed purpose of its elite monthly meetings is to coordinate and, if possible, to control all monetary activities in the industrialized world. The place where this club meets in Basel is a unique financial institution called the Bank for International Settlements -- or more simply, and appropriately, the BIS (pronounced biz in German). The BIS was originally established in May 1930 by bankers and diplomats of Europe and the United States to collect and disburse Germany's World War I reparation payments (hence its name). It was truly an extraordinary arrangement. Although the BIS was organized as a commercial bank with publicly held shares, its immunity from government interference - and taxes in both peace and war was guaranteed by an international treaty signed in The Hague in 1930. Although all its depositors are central banks, the BIS has made a profit on every transaction. And because it has been highly profitable, it has required no subsidy or aid from any government. Since it also provided, in Basel, a safe and convenient repository for the gold holdings of the European central banks, it quickly evolved into the bank for central banks. As the world depression deepened
[CTRL] WORKERS COMPENSATION IN KANADA
-Caveat Lector- IWA about WCB in Kanada. ...and it is the truth. http://www.iwa.ca/news/bitsandpieces/bits-9.htm A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bush dismisses administration's climate change study (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- What a shortsighted comment. Let the planet's environment go to hell as long as it does not affect MY life. Unfortunately, this will changes the lives of everyone, mostly in a negative way. Steve On 5 Jun 2002 at 16:34, William Bacon wrote: Hooray At least some of my freedoms will be in place a little longer... In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om