[CTRL] ADL Foxman Claims Stalin's Extermination of 6 Million Ukrainians Just Famine
-Caveat Lector- NY TIMES February 4, 2004 Gibson to Delete a Scene in 'Passion' By SHARON WAXMAN Mr. Foxman also protested Mr. Gibson's remark on the Holocaust. At the very least it was ignorant, at the very most its insensitive. And you know what? He doesn't get that either. He doesn't begin to understand the difference between dying in a famine and people being cremated solely for what they are. LOS ANGELES, Feb. 3 - Mel Gibson, responding to focus groups as much as to protests by Jewish critics, has decided to delete a controversial scene about Jews from his film, The Passion of the Christ, a close associate said today. A scene in the film, in which the Jewish high priest Caiaphas calls down a kind of curse on the Jewish people by declaring of the Crucifixion, His blood be on us and on our children, will not be in the movie's final version, said the Gibson associate, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The passage had been included in some versions of the film that were shown before select groups, mostly of priests and ministers. It didn't work in the focus screenings, the associate said. Maybe it was thought to be too hurtful, or taken not in the way it was intended. It has been used terribly over the years. Jewish leaders had warned that the passage from Matthew 27:25 was the historic source for many of the charges of deicide and Jews' collective guilt in the death of Jesus. Mr. Gibson's decision to remove the scene could indicate that he was being responsive to concerns of Jewish groups that the film will fuel anti-Semitism. Mr. Gibson was the co-writer, director, producer and financier of the $25 million film, which will be released in more than 2,000 theaters on Feb. 25, Ash Wednesday. Mr. Gibson also responded to a letter from Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, who had requested a meeting and asked Mr. Gibson to consider a postscript that would implore your viewers to not let the movie turn some toward a passion of hatred. Mr. Gibson did not respond to those requests directly, writing only: I hope and I pray that you will join me in setting an example for all of our brethren; that the truest path to follow, the only path, is that of respect and, most importantly, that of love for each other despite our differences. Mr. Foxman responded in turn on Monday that your words do not mitigate our concerns about the potential consequences of your film - to fuel and legitimize anti-Semitism. This reporter was shown a two-hour version of the R-rated movie this week. The film features agonizing passages as Jesus, played by Jim Caviezel, is mercilessly beaten by Jewish and then Roman guards, and jeered and hounded by a Jewish mob on his way to his Crucifixion. It is unclear how close this version is to Mr. Gibson's final film. In this version, the Roman leader Pontius Pilate is depicted as being reluctant to harm Jesus, who Pilate's wife warns is holy. Largely to mollify a restive Jewish mob outside his window, Pilate agrees to a severe lashing and scourging of Jesus, but the crowd and the high priest demand more. Pilate says in Latin: Ecce homo - Behold the man - displaying the broken and bleeding Jesus to the crowd. But the high priest insists, in Aramaic, Crucify him. Pilate responds, Isn't this enough? The mob roars, No, and only then does the Roman leader agree to the Crucifixion. Because passion plays historically preceded outbreaks of anti-Semitic violence in Europe, the film passage is a particularly sensitive matter with Jewish groups at a time when anti-Semitism is on the rise in parts of Europe, the Middle East and Asia. But Mr. Gibson further raised hackles among Jewish leaders in an exclusive interview by the writer Peggy Noonan published in the March issue of Reader's Digest. Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, accused Mr. Gibson of insensitivity when he compared Jewish suffering in the Holocaust to that of millions of others who died in the war. Ms. Noonan, a former speechwriter for President Ronald Reagan, asked Mr. Gibson about his father, a conservative Catholic who was quoted in a New York Times Magazine article last March as denying that Holocaust took place. Mr. Gibson answered that he loved his father. Ms. Noonan insisted: You're going to have to go on record. The Holocaust happened, right? Mr. Gibson responded: I have friends and parents of friends who have numbers on their arms. The guy who taught me Spanish was a Holocaust survivor. He worked in a concentration camp in France. Yes of course. Atrocities happened. War is horrible. The Second World War killed tens of millions of people. Some of them were Jews in concentration camps. Many people lost their lives. In the Ukraine several million starved to death between 1932 and 1933. During the last century 20 million people died in the Soviet Union. Mr. Foxman also protested Mr. Gibson's remark on the Holocaust. At the very least it was ignorant, at
[CTRL] ADL Says Extremists Use The Talmud to Promote Anti-Semitism
Title: ADL Says Extremists Use The Talmud to Promote Anti-Semitism -Caveat Lector- Home|Law Enforcement|Search|About|Contact Issues Anti-Semitism --Arab World Civil Rights Combating Hate Education Extremism Hate Crimes Hate Symbols Database Holocaust Interfaith International Affairs Internet Israel Law Enforcement Nation of Islam Religious Freedom Security Awareness Terrorism Terrorist Organization Database News Press Releases ADL About ADL ADL Regional Offices Resources A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE Institute® ADL Catalog: Resources for Classroom and Community Law Enforcement Agency Resource Network Militia Watchdog Archives Student Film/Video Productions: The Dore Schary Awards Press Release Anti-Semitism: USA ADL Says Extremists Use The Talmud to Promote Anti-Semitism New York, NY, February 20, 2003 ... The Talmud - the classic text of Jewish law and lore, history and philosophy - increasingly is being used by extremists to promote their anti-Semitism. In a new report, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) exposes the lies of anti-Semites, Holocaust deniers and others who cite Talmudic texts as evidence that Judaism is "perverted" or "immoral." The Talmud in Anti-Semitic Polemics (requires Acrobat Reader, 202 kb) "It has become a common refrain among the anti-Semites that the Talmud is the 'smoking gun' that confirms their belief about Jews being stingy, malevolent and intent on world domination," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "They create this myth about Jewish practices and tradition, which helps to further justify and promote their anti-Semitism." ADL's report, The Talmud in Anti-Semitic Polemics, exposes how certain passages from the Talmud and other traditional Jewish texts are used to foment anti-Semitism through distortions and fabrications. The authors of anti-Talmudic polemics seek to paint Judaism as an immoral religion that preaches hatred for non-Jews and promotes obscenity, criminality, sexual perversion and other immoral acts. Widely available on the Internet, such anti-Talmudic tracts "are clearly designed to provoke hostility toward Jews," Mr. Foxman said. The foremost distorters of Talmudic texts include David Duke, the former Klansman and white supremacist, and Michael A. Hoffman II, a conspiracy theorist and Holocaust denier. Among the claims refuted by the ADL report are: The claim that Judaism views non-Jews as "non-human;" The claim that Judaism encourages child molestation; The claim that Jews should not be trusted because they recite the Kol Nidre prayer that authorizes them to lie to non-Jews; The claim that Judaism demands that non-Jews who study Jewish law be put to death; The claim that the Talmud employs the name
[CTRL] ADL Calls For Censorship (What's new?)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/4291_12.htm ADL Concerned Mel Gibson's 'Passion' Will Fuel Anti-Semitism if Released in Present Form New York, NY, August 11, 2003 After having attended a private screening of Mel Gibson's new film, "The Passion," the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today voiced concerns that the film, if released in its present form, "will fuel hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism" by reinforcing the notion of collective Jewish guilt for the death of Jesus.An ADL representative was present at a private screening of "The Passion" at the Museum of Fine Arts in Houston, Texas. "The film unambiguously portrays Jewish authorities and the Jewish mob as the ones responsible for the decision to crucify Jesus," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "We are deeply concerned that the film, if released in its present form, will fuel the hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism that many responsible churches have worked hard to repudiate." The version of Gibson's film, as previewed by Rabbi Eugene Korn, ADL Director of Interfaith Affairs, contained a number of troubling themes and images, all raising the specter of "deicide," or Jewish complicity in the death of Jesus. "Sadly, the film contains many of the dangerous teachings that Christians and Jews have worked for so many years to counter," said Rabbi Korn. "This is not a disagreement between the Jews and Mr. Gibson. Many theologically informed Catholics and Protestants have expressed the same concerns regarding anti-Semitism, and that this film may undermine Christian-Jewish dialogue and could turn back the clock on decades of positive progress in interfaith relations." "We hope that Mr. Gibson and Icon Productions will consider modifying 'The Passion,' so that the film will be one that is historically accurate, theologically sound and free of any anti-Semitic message," said Mr. Foxman. ADL's concerns include: - The film portrays Jewish authorities and the Jewish "mob" as forcing the decision to torture and execute Jesus, thus assuming responsibility for the crucifixion. - The film relies on sinister medieval stereotypes, portraying Jews as blood-thirsty, sadistic and money-hungry enemies of God who lack compassion and humanity. - The film relies on historical errors, chief among them its depiction of the Jewish high priest controlling Pontius Pilate - The film uses an anti-Jewish account of a 19th century mystical anti-Semitic nun, distorts New Testament interpretation by selectively citing passages to weave a narrative that oversimplifies history, and is hostile to Jews and Judaism. - The film portrays Jews who adhere to their Jewish faith as enemies of God and the locus of evil. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL Acting Militia-Like
-Caveat Lector- ADL Providing Security Training http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/prime/0821-139.html -iNFoWaRZ Bad ADL, please add yourself to your list of extremist groups on your ADL web site. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- http://zog.to/3/antisemi/adl.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://zog.to/3/antisemi/adl.html This is typical of Colleen/Saba to put up a Neo-Nazi site where the content is equal to what floats around between her ears. ADL's Dark History The Anti-Defamation League was created in 1913 by the racist secret society known as B'nai B'rith (which means blood of the Chosen). This organization, which exists today excludes people based on their ethnic background and religion. It is exclusively restricted to powerful Jews who believe in racial superiority. This is the very first paragraph. This sentence... The Anti-Defamation League was created in 1913 by the racist secret society known as B'nai B'rith (which means blood of the Chosen). was obviously researched by some genius of Colleen's high caliber. It is completely wrong. B'nai = Sons of B'rith = the Covenant If you're going to write a racist hit piece, you have to at least be credible in your first sentence. Unless your intended audience are as stupid as Colleen. This is probably the case. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- Listen you stupid moron - I did not write those words now prove these people to be Nazis? Now do not get too excited over this Joshua2 - I know how you react when you spy upon all those militia men - why you could hardly contain yourself for the real thing as you said. God crawl back under your rock .. O'Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Saba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group Listen you stupid moron not to be confused with a smart moron, of course A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL: Portrait of A Hate Group
-Caveat Lector- Can someone please, please, please make her go away dg In a message dated 1/3/02 2:19:41 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is typical of Colleen/Saba to put up a Neo-Nazi site where the content is equal to what floats around between her ears. ADL's Dark History The Anti-Defamation League was created in 1913 by the racist secret society known as B'nai B'rith (which means blood of the Chosen). This organization, which exists today excludes people based on their ethnic background and religion. It is exclusively restricted to powerful Jews who believe in racial superiority. This is the very first paragraph. This sentence... The Anti-Defamation League was created in 1913 by the racist secret society known as B'nai B'rith (which means blood of the Chosen). was obviously researched by some genius of Colleen's high caliber. It is completely wrong. B'nai = Sons of B'rith = the Covenant If you're going to write a racist hit piece, you have to at least be credible in your first sentence. Unless your intended audience are as stupid as Colleen. This is probably the case. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL Garbage and Mark Pitcavage Hate Machine
-Caveat Lector- Pigs at the trough. E-mail message TRIMonline.org! Vol. 15, No. 23 November 8, 1999 Table of Contents More on Police More on Attacks on Conservatives Propagandizing the Police by William Norman Grigg Leftist watchdogs posing as experts on extremism are advising police agencies in preemptive law enforcement. The resulting dragnet will increasingly target law-abiding gun owners, pro-lifers, homeschoolers, and other foes of the total state. A new state law that went into effect on October 1st permits law enforcement authorities in Connecticut to confiscate guns from anyone determined to be an immediate danger to himself or others. State police Lieutenant Robert Kiehm explained to the Associated Press that the purpose of the measure is to give police officers the power to take some proactive steps instead of waiting for something to happen. Although the circumstances under which such seizures can occur are narrowly defined, the Connecticut law represents a significant advance for the ominous emerging doctrine of pre-emptive law enforcement. Lawmakers in other states say the focus on prevention is the law's strength, reported AP. The thing that frustrates me is that when they're pulling bodies out of a house, neighbors are telling the police, 'Yeah, the guy who shot them was nuts we all knew that,' declared Illinois State Representative Tom Dart (D), who plans to introduce a similar proposal in his own state. But everyone says that there's nothing that they could have done to stop the shooting. The value of this law is not so much that police will seize your guns, explained Connecticut State Representative Michael Lawlor, who sponsored the law. It gives police a system to investigate a person who poses a threat. If the police never confiscate a person's guns, they can at least look into the person's behavior and perhaps prevent a tragedy by intervening. AP paraphrased Lawlor as saying that the new law could stop people like Benjamin Smith, the white supremacist who killed two people and wounded nine during a two-state shooting spree targeting Jews, blacks and Asians. Smith's criminal record and reputation for passing out hate literature could have prompted police to take action, Lawlor said. Lawlor's reference to the Benjamin Smith case demonstrates that there is a political aspect to Connecticut's model of proactive gun confiscation, since Smith's abhorrent political views would have played a role in defining him as a threat to others. But would the same be true of certain political views that are merely politically incorrect or unpopular? How about political affiliations with real or perceived extremist groups that are tirelessly linked in the media with unambiguous hate groups? In principle, the Connecticut law is of a piece with recent proposals to give the FBI and other agencies enhanced power to keep political extremists, almost always of the right-wing variety, under special scrutiny. Those extremists considered particularly prone to violence would be subject to interrogation as a means of deterring such outbursts. And, in some cases, extremists would find themselves denied constitutional protections such as those contained in the First and Second Amendments. In order to be effective, pre-emptive law enforcement measures would require citizens to maintain vigilance for signs of dangerous attitudes on the part of their neighbors and associates and to act as informants out of a sense of public duty. They would also require the indoctrination of police agencies regarding danger signs that evince an individual's potential to carry out an armed rampage. The task of indoctrinating law enforcement officers is presently carried out by an array of left-wing watchdog groups such as the American Jewish Committee (AJC), the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith (ADL), Political Research Associates (PRA), and the Justice Department's State and Local Anti-Terrorism Training Program (SLATT), a quasi-private entity. These groups, as well as sundry experts in loose orbit around them, provide much of the law enforcement training and intelligence information dealing with the threat posed by the radical right. Scripted Stories In recent months, leftist watchdog groups have skillfully capitalized upon recent gun violence episodes such as Benjamin Smith's murder spree, neo-Nazi Buford Furrow's shooting rampage at a Jewish day-care center, and Larry Ashbrook's murderous assault upon the Wedgwood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas to advance their campaign for new federal powers to keep right-wing extremists under surveillance. In their eagerness to exploit these tragedies, the watchdogs have often displayed a contemptuous disregard of the specific facts of each episode, as the Wedgwood Baptist Church incident illustrates. Following Larry Ashbrook's September 17th attack upon worshipers at the Wedgwood Baptist Church, in which the gunman murdered seven worshipers before killing himself,
Re: [CTRL] ADL Outraged at Red Cross Statement Calling Israeli Settlements War Crimes
-Caveat Lector- Didn't a Jewish Order - Hadassah or something like that just take over certain Red Cross authorites from the UN? Maybe the time is ripe for the ADL does more harm than it does good. This Jewish Defense League, a group of killers - why the ADL did not even put them on the FBI Hit Hate List. This Jewish Defense League is in disguise and are considered a very dangerous organizationmaybe these are the friends to which Joshua2 referred when he said he had friends he wanted me to meet? Hey Joshua - I got friends too buddy and my friends know more than your friends and are loaded for bear, you little twerp. Big mouth, big talk - Joshua2 sitting there behind his computer talking war games? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL Outraged at Red Cross Statement Calling Israeli Settlements War Crimes
-Caveat Lector- I think the ADL has become that which it purports to oppose. ~Amelia~ Press Release Israel/Middle East ADL Outraged at Red Cross Statement Calling Israeli Settlements War Crimes New York, NY, May 17, 2001 . The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) expressed outrage at today's statement by the head of an International Red Cross delegation to Israel who termed Jewish settlement activity a war crime under humanitarian law, calling the charge outrageous, unfair, and a gross distortion of the term. Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement: We are outraged at the accusation the International Red Cross has lodged against Israel, which is completely unfounded and has no basis in reality. To call Israeli settlements a war crime is a gross distortion of the term and an unfair accusation that plays into the passions of the Middle East conflict while serving no real interest other than to denigrate and degrade Israel's status among nations. How ironic that 60 years after the greatest humanitarian war crime in history, the International Red Cross today denigrates Israel for a policy of settlement. The Red Cross, which remained silent and made excuses for not responding in the face of Hitler's program of mass extermination, now has the ability to speak freely against those nations who are guilty of real humanitarian abuses. Instead, the Red Cross chooses to pin the blame on Israel for make-believe human rights abuses. ADL has urged Dr. Bernadine Healy, President of the American Red Cross, to speak out against the statement, which was issued by Rene Kosirnik, the head of an International Red Cross delegation to Israel and the Palestinian territories. The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL Outraged at Red Cross Statement Calling Israeli Settlements War Crimes
-Caveat Lector- Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, issued the following statement: We are outraged at the accusation the International Red Cross has lodged against Israel, Yes, how dare anyone ever lodge any accusations of any sort against Israel? Israel is holy. which is completely unfounded and has no basis in reality. To call Israeli settlements a war crime is a gross distortion of the term Only we Israelis are allowed to use the term war crime, and only we are allowed to decide to whom it applies. How dare you overstep the mark like this? What's next? Next you'll say that the terms we use for non-Jews are racist. and an unfair accusation By default, any accusation against us is unfair, and quite possibly anti-Semitic. that plays into the passions of the Middle East conflict while serving no real interest other than to denigrate and degrade Israel's status among nations. Which status is, of course, at the very top of the food chain. Remember: God wants us to have this country, and so the does the USA. We are untouchable. How ironic that 60 years after the greatest humanitarian war crime in history, That's right. No matter how irrelevant to any discussion, we will always shake the Holocaust at you. Why? Because without the Holocaust, we are nothing. Our entire existence revolves around the fact that some of our parents and grandparents were victims of a terrible human rights abuse, and as a result of this all our descendants until the end of time will be FREE OF ALL CRITICISM. That's how it works. Never forget. the International Red Cross today denigrates Israel for a policy of settlement. When we take your land, it's called settlement. We learned this from our mentors, the Americans. However, when you try to take your land back, it's terrorism. The Red Cross, which remained silent and made excuses for not responding in the face of Hitler's program of mass extermination, now has the ability to speak freely against those nations who are guilty of real humanitarian abuses. Again, events that transpired fifty or more years ago, acts committed by people now dead and not able to respond to any allegations or accusations, are more relevant than any puny facts about our current behaviour. Instead, the Red Cross chooses to pin the blame on Israel for make-believe human rights abuses. Since we have decided that they do not exist, there have been no human rights abuses. Furthermore, it is cosmologically impossible for Israelis to commit human rights abuses, so the discussion is moot. ADL has urged Dr. Bernadine Healy, President of the American Red Cross, to speak out against the statement, which was issued by Rene Kosirnik, the head of an International Red Cross delegation to Israel and the Palestinian territories. ADL has urged Dr Healy - who did not visit the area and did not see anything - to order one of his minions - who did - to recant. Surely this must be easy for Dr Healy to effect. We at the ADL always get our minions to do whatever they are told, and cannot understand any organizational culture not based on the concept of overlords and peons. The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry. Tha Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization misleading the world about the scope of anti-Jewish sentiment in order to further its own political agenda and line it's pockets with blood money. In order to do this it regularly launches massive programs of propaganda and deceit into the public domain. The ADL is a hate group, devoted to spreading hatred, prejudice and bigotry, for without these great emotions, it would have no reason to exist and we'd all be out of a job. Long live Uncle Adolph, who gave us the greatest free ride ever! Sieg Heil! I mean - erm - Shalom! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A
[CTRL] ADL and 'Hate' Symbols
Popular, Obscure Symbols Defined as 'Hate' (CNSNews.com) - Many images and symbols have been used in the promotion of racism and violent bigotry in western culture, but increasingly, the number of hate symbols is growing to include numerology, acronyms and religious symbols, some of which are generating confusion and even lawsuits over their use and interpretation. Many such symbols are cataloged by the Anti-Defamation League, which has created a database of symbols it says have been adopted by neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan, racist skinheads, racist prison gangs and other hate or extremist groups or movements, according to the organization's website. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200107\CUL20010718b.html
Re: [CTRL] ADL and 'Hate' Symbols
-Caveat Lector- WAY KOOL!!! Now, I have some new graphics for my website!! I especially like the one for anarchists. Popular, Obscure Symbols Defined as 'Hate' (CNSNews.com) Edward + The desire to rule is the mother of heresies. ~ St. John Chrysostom http://www.global-connector.com ~~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL Put Who on their hate lists for the treacherous Louse Freeh?
-Caveat Lector- Now why is the ADL so upset about the Turner Diaries witten by an alleged neo nazi when they ignored the Video Tape produced by the FBI and the son of FBI agent who investigated Littleton - Klebold and Harris of the Trench Coat Mafia stole the entire idea from the movie Heathers - idea to murder popular Christians? Not one word from this ADL - now who are they really? Are they linked and paid by FBI. Louis Freeh now is being investigated for his very close association with this Hannsen who was KGB agent? Louis Freeh who dine with KGB in Moscow - what was he doing in Moscow entertaining the Mossad but he was so thrilled even to be sitting with them Look at Waco and and remember it was Warsaw Ghetto Day, and another shot heard around the worlddid Tmothy McVeigh end up working for FBI and ADL spying on Militias? Had to have something worse to remember on April 19 which is now the day Oklahoma was blow up = supposed to have been blamed on Osama bin Laden but it backfired?/ Nobody told McVeigh about the babies in the nursery - but ADL and FBI and BATF and one Judge knew what was going to happen that day and stayed home? ADL took bribe money from Marc Rich for Clinton? So this Turner Diaries - oh such a dangerous book - the most dangerous book about guerrilla tactics is the bible and the Story of Sampson and Gideon? (and oh so, my Gideon bible calendar code keyed to murder and sabotage)..now Sampson went for the pillars or the columns holding up the temple while hit and run Gideon, used a Ryder truck full of fertilizer to bring down this great temple to injustice and meanwhile this guy with FBI connections wrote the book on Oklahoma naming the chief suspect BEFORE the fact, like Littleton? So if the KGB can form their own KKK for the Walker Navy spies (my goodness, even the Navy is suspect - Remember the USS Liberty) but the Walker spies operated out of their own little KKK and had their own little neo nazi literatures and things were blamed on militias and Christians and arabs - How stupid can America be to give billions of dollars a year to Israel When the Mossad taps lines of the President using their little whore? Consider at Littleton the two killers said it was Judgment Day when they murdered their little Christian classmates - this Trench Coat Mafia.Judgment Day; in the Gideon Bible McVeigh had circled a passage Wrath of God and if this was not a Judgment Day what else was it. So for whom did McVeigh really work - did he get caught up in the FBI ADL sting operation to destroy the militias? After all the Michigan Militia wanted nothing to do with McVeigh for they were somewhat suspicious of this traveling man? And from where did Nichols get the gold - was it Gideon's gold who took the golden earrings from the dead Ishmalites for his mercenary servies? After all Gideon was the hit and run guerrilla warfare expert, not the Turner Diaries, a poorly written book which someone one chapter, was enough to put you to sleep. Saba May 3, 1996 Jews urge ban of hate book, spark free-speech debate HEATHER CAMLOT Jewish Telegraphic Agency NEW YORK -- Jewish groups have joined a campaign to boycott the selling of a book that is believed to have inspired the Oklahoma City bombing. The American Jewish Committee and the Simon Wiesenthal Center have contacted major booksellers across the nation, asking them not to distribute The Turner Diaries, a fictional work about gun control written by neo-Nazi William Pierce. The Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization headed by Morris Dees that monitors and fights extremism, first raised concern about the book's publication and distribution. The novel has been in circulation since it was completed in 1978. At that time, it was published by National Vanguard Books, an arm of the National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group. More than 185,000 copies were sold. But it was inaccessible to the general public until Barricade Books decided to publish it. A spokeswoman for the publisher said the book was in production last week. Calling the book a bible of the extreme right wing, Kenneth Stern, program specialist on anti-Semitism and extremism at the American Jewish Committee, said it promotes a political agenda of making Hitler's dream come true. In a letter to booksellers, Stern wrote, The distribution of this book will help finance one of the main organizations for promoting hatred and violence against innocent Americans. Pierce leads the National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group that also promotes the book. The Simon Wiesenthal Center also is urging leading U.S. bookstore chains not to stock the racist tract, the organization said in a statement. It is almost beyond belief that on the first anniversary of the Oklahoma City massacre, a mainstream publisher would announce publication of a book which depicts the destruction of a federal facility by a truck carrying a bomb, a book which was found among Timothy McVeigh's possessions
Re: [CTRL] ADL Put Who on their hate lists for the treacherous Lo use Freeh?
-Caveat Lector- Nice incoherent unsubstantiated rant. -- From: Aleisha Saba Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] ADL Put Who on their hate lists for the treacherous Louse Freeh? -Caveat Lector- Now why is the ADL so upset about the Turner Diaries witten by an alleged neo nazi when they ignored the Video Tape produced by the FBI and the son of FBI agent who investigated Littleton - Klebold and Harris of the Trench Coat Mafia stole the entire idea from the movie Heathers - idea to murder popular Christians? Not one word from this ADL - now who are they really? Are they linked and paid by FBI. Louis Freeh now is being investigated for his very close association with this Hannsen who was KGB agent? Louis Freeh who dine with KGB in Moscow - what was he doing in Moscow entertaining the Mossad but he was so thrilled even to be sitting with them Look at Waco and and remember it was Warsaw Ghetto Day, and another shot heard around the worlddid Tmothy McVeigh end up working for FBI and ADL spying on Militias? Had to have something worse to remember on April 19 which is now the day Oklahoma was blow up = supposed to have been blamed on Osama bin Laden but it backfired?/ Nobody told McVeigh about the babies in the nursery - but ADL and FBI and BATF and one Judge knew what was going to happen that day and stayed home? ADL took bribe money from Marc Rich for Clinton? So this Turner Diaries - oh such a dangerous book - the most dangerous book about guerrilla tactics is the bible and the Story of Sampson and Gideon? (and oh so, my Gideon bible calendar code keyed to murder and sabotage)..now Sampson went for the pillars or the columns holding up the temple while hit and run Gideon, used a Ryder truck full of fertilizer to bring down this great temple to injustice and meanwhile this guy with FBI connections wrote the book on Oklahoma naming the chief suspect BEFORE the fact, like Littleton? So if the KGB can form their own KKK for the Walker Navy spies (my goodness, even the Navy is suspect - Remember the USS Liberty) but the Walker spies operated out of their own little KKK and had their own little neo nazi literatures and things were blamed on militias and Christians and arabs - How stupid can America be to give billions of dollars a year to Israel When the Mossad taps lines of the President using their little whore? Consider at Littleton the two killers said it was Judgment Day when they murdered their little Christian classmates - this Trench Coat Mafia.Judgment Day; in the Gideon Bible McVeigh had circled a passage Wrath of God and if this was not a Judgment Day what else was it. So for whom did McVeigh really work - did he get caught up in the FBI ADL sting operation to destroy the militias? After all the Michigan Militia wanted nothing to do with McVeigh for they were somewhat suspicious of this traveling man? And from where did Nichols get the gold - was it Gideon's gold who took the golden earrings from the dead Ishmalites for his mercenary servies? After all Gideon was the hit and run guerrilla warfare expert, not the Turner Diaries, a poorly written book which someone one chapter, was enough to put you to sleep. Saba May 3, 1996 Jews urge ban of hate book, spark free-speech debate HEATHER CAMLOT Jewish Telegraphic Agency NEW YORK -- Jewish groups have joined a campaign to boycott the selling of a book that is believed to have inspired the Oklahoma City bombing. The American Jewish Committee and the Simon Wiesenthal Center have contacted major booksellers across the nation, asking them not to distribute The Turner Diaries, a fictional work about gun control written by neo-Nazi William Pierce. The Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization headed by Morris Dees that monitors and fights extremism, first raised concern about the book's publication and distribution. The novel has been in circulation since it was completed in 1978. At that time, it was published by National Vanguard Books, an arm of the National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group. More than 185,000 copies were sold. But it was inaccessible to the general public until Barricade Books decided to publish it. A spokeswoman for the publisher said the book was in production last week. Calling the book a bible of the extreme right wing, Kenneth Stern, program specialist on anti-Semitism and extremism at the American Jewish Committee, said it promotes a political agenda of making Hitler's dream come true. In a letter to booksellers, Stern wrote, The distribution of this book will help finance one of the main organizations for promoting hatred and violence against innocent Americans. Pierce leads the National Alliance, a neo-Nazi group that also promotes the book. The Simon Wiesenthal Center also
[CTRL] ADL/Media Are Cowards
-Caveat Lector- NO APOLOGY FOR DEFENDING, EXERCISING RIGHTS By Bob Glass Source: ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS (Denver CO) http://www.rockymountainnews.com/ June 7, 2001, Thursday It is outrageous, hypocritical and cowardly for a journal like the Rocky Mountain News, whose daily existence rests on the sanctity of the First Amendment, to take cheap shots at those citizens who choose to exercise their First Amendment rights in a different way. I am referring to the attacks made against me and the Tyranny Response Team in the editorial of May 31, Louts on the protest line. I will not apologize for using our passion, our lungs and our bullhorns to convey our message. Being a true grass-roots movement we do not have the corporate sponsors or the money that the Million Mom March or SAFE Colorado has, and consequently we cannot afford to run full-page ads in the News like they do. We must stand in the streets and holler, because the media has failed miserably in its responsibility to report all sides of the issue. Despite the best efforts of News reporters such as Carla Crowder to discredit us, a handful of people willing to stand up for the Bill of Rights has drawn large numbers of people into our ranks, not just in Colorado, but across the country. The numbers of Million Mom Marchers on the other hand, have plummeted faster than the Mir space station. Their Mother's Day rally that drew 3,500 people a year ago only attracted a pathetic 200 this year. They were quick to blame the tactics of the TRT for their dismal turnout, never once considering that it is our message that is at last being heeded. Not content simply to point their fingers at us and scream, No fair!, they had to rat us out to the high priests and police of political correctness, the Anti-Defamation League. The ADL, like their cowardly and hypocritical brethren in the Million Mom March, won't come right out and call us anti- Semites or racists (a tall order considering that I am Jewish), but must rely on their stock in trade of smear, innuendo and character assassination. They claim to be concerned about the kind of people that might be drawn into our ranks and the possible link between rogue members of the TRT that might have made threats against Tom Mauser. And like their philosophical comrades at the News, they too are concerned with our tactics. This is a transparent and despicable attempt to demonize us without having the guts to accuse us of anything concrete or engage us in a public debate. And after all, what can they accuse us of? No member of the TRT has ever been arrested at a demonstration, nor has any TRT member been questioned about threatening anyone. I have repeatedly asked the Million Mom March, SAFE Colorado and the ADL to debate the issues with me in a public forum of their choosing. They have all refused. As a consequence of their refusal they have left us no choice but to use the theater of the street to make our points. Despite the self-evident absurdity of their emotional rhetoric, their arguments are historically, ethically, morally and constitutionally bankrupt and they know it - hence their refusal to debate. It is an inescapable irony that history repeats itself. Undoubtedly the good, upstanding, respectable members of Boston society along with its newspapers strictly condemned the tactics of a band of ruffians and hooligans, some 200 years ago as they boarded a ship in Boston Harbor and contemptuously broke the rules. These louts dressed up in outrageous costumes and painted their faces in wild colors as they trespassed on private property. This band of rowdies stole merchandise and, in bold defiance of the king's law, dumped it into the sea. This act of flagrant disregard for all civilized behavior was to become known as the Boston Tea Party. You might find our tactics distasteful. We find the destruction of liberty even more distasteful. Get used to us. Unlike our cause du jour adversaries, we have pledged our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor to winning back our freedoms. NOTES: Bob Glass is president of the Longmont-based Tyranny Response Team. SPEAKOUT A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
[CTRL] ADL Spying Case Continues In San Francisco
-Caveat Lector- - Forwarded message follows - __ ADL Spying Case Continues In San Francisco Please Show Your Support On June 15, 2001 9:00 AM Court Room 318 The epoch battle to expose the illegal spying by the Anti-Defamation League continues this Friday in a San Francisco courtroom with an effort by the ADL to obtain a summary judgement in a class action suit that has been in the courts since 1993. The next hearing for the case will take place on Friday June 15, 2001 at 9 AM in Judge Alex Saldamando's Courtroom, 3rd Floor, Department 318. The Court Building is located at 400 McAllister and Polk Street across from San Francisco City Hall. Please attend to show that there is growing public support that this case to go to trial and the ADL's stalling comes to a complete stop. The case has gone on for over 8 years and the ADL has spent millions of dollars seeking to stop discovery and to argue that they are simply conducting journalist activities covered by the 1st Amendment. If you want to contribute to the case, please send funds for the ADL Spying Case to Paul N. McCloskey, Jr. Wagstaffe Wagstaffe 333 Bradford St. Suite D Redwood City, California 94603 Also you can find out more about the ADL and it's illegal spying activity to silence critics of Israel and the former apartheid government of South Africa along with Arab Americans by going to http://www.adlwatch.org This case is Shabbas,et al. v. ADLl., No.951031 In Solidarity, Steve Zeltzer - End of forwarded message - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL Being Exposed for What They Are.....Mossad/KGB Cats Paw
-Caveat Lector- So who put militias on FBI Hate List along with Christians and Moslems? Who spies on all lists and sends virus mail to those with whom they disagreeput them all together and it does not spell Mother - it spells Anti Defemation League - Cats Paw for psuedo masonic Bnai Brith, a German Secret Order linked to Mossad. Who took bribe from Marc Rich for President of the United States for Rich's pardon? Why the ADL.cats paw for Mossand and KGB which now operate out of the FBI? Nice item here - thank my friends for mailing to me. Will omit their names for obvious reasons: Mail message Subject: [Conspiranoia!] Scientology, sneaky vipers and the ADL. We shall deal with the press in the following way: what is the part played by the press to-day? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose, or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid; unjust; mendacious; and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves. - The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Protocol 12: Control of The Press. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Conspiranoia/files/Room%20101/The%20Protocols%20of%20Zion.html 'And the I AM said unto me, A CONSPIRACY is found among the men of Judah (Jew-dah), and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem.' - The Book of Jeremiah, 11:9. God Bless. Long live the fighters. Long Live The King. John Russell. + From: Megiddo Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:39:55 +0100 To: here and now [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Scientology, sneaky vipers and the ADL. Gun for Hire. Folks familiar with the downfall of the once-respected Institute for Historical Review (IHR), taken over in 1994 by a profit-mad gang of lawyers and parasites, may think of Greg Raven as merely a common gunsel and thug. But this would be wrong. He's more-or less-as the case may be. It now turns out that Raven's denials that he is a paid agent of the Church of Scientology may be true. In fact, it may be true that no real Church of Scientology exists. It has come to light that this organization is actually owned by a group of lawyers, most of whom are not even Scientologists! The record shows that Scientology, its names, trademarks, copyrights, logos-even including LRH, the initials of its founder-L. Ron Hubbard-are the property of a separate corporation, Religious Technology Center, Inc. (RTC). And RTC is completely separate from Scientology. It receives fees, commissions and payments every time that the sect's names appear in any of the printed material it puts out. RTC is hidden in a corporate maze. It lists its official address in care of a little professional mail drop at 419 Larchmont Avenue in Los Angeles called Village Mail Call. And yet this obscure corporation owns the multi-million dollar Scientology empire! How many veteran followers of L. Ron Hubbard know this? The board of directors of RTC is composed of lawyers for the most part, few if any of whom are Scientologists. One of these is Lawrence E. Heller, a longtime Scientology lawyer. Significantly, Heller was also the lawyer for Mel Mermelstein, the holocaust survivor who sued the IHR and Liberty Lobby for millions of dollars in 1991. In the courtroom, Mermelstein's performance was so poor that the judge dismissed his suit before the trial. At this, Heller lost his mind and physically attacked Liberty Lobby's attorney, Mark Lane, who had (easily) made Mermelstein look like a fool. Here is the legal notice and Heller Co. requires be printed in every publication issued by Scientology: It is reprinted from International Scientology News magazine issue No. 16, released in May, 2001 by Church of Scientology International, 6331 Hollywood Blvd., Suite 801, Los Angeles, CA 90028-6300. It is printed on page 47 at the bottom in extremely light 4-point type. This message appears on all official Scientology publications. It proves that Scientology is owned by Religious Technology Center, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Grateful acknowledgment is made to Ron Hubbard Library for permission to reproduce selections from the copyrighted works of L. Ron Hubbard. SCIENTOLOGY, the new FLAG logo, Flag Service Organization, corporate symbol, SCIENTOLOGY symbol, GOLDEN AGE OF TECH symbol, OT, FLAG, FREEWINDS, HUBBARD, LRH, LRH DEVICE, SMI corporate symbol, I HELP logo, CLEARSOUND logo, CLEARSOUND, E-METER, STANDARD TECH, STUDENT HAT, MARK SUPER VI/VII E-METER configuration, MARK SUPER VII QUANTIUM, NED, SAINT HILL, SHSBC, FREEWINDS logo, MARK SUPER VII QUANTIUM logo, Religious Technology Center symbol, DIANETICS, THE BRIDGE, Lion symbol, SUPER POWER, FSSO symbol, RON signature, CSI corporate symbol, OT symbol, Solo Auditor symbol, FSO corporate symbol, Sea Organization symbol and Sea Organization coat of arms are trademarks and service marks owned by Religious Technology Center and are used with its permission. SCIENTOLOGIST is a collective membership
[CTRL] ADL Conspiracy
New report Behind the mask of Respectability exposes the hidden agenda of the Anti-Defamation League. New York, New York, June 21, 2000 A new report released this week by the National Organization For European American Rights (N.O.F.E.A.R.) entitled Behind the Mash of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brith exposes the ADL as the most dangerous organization in country working to end free speech in America. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short, presents itself as an organization against ethnic, racial or religious intolerance. Its very name suggests that it opposes "defamation." In reality, the Anti-Defamation League is an organization that supports Jewish ethnic and religious supremacy, and relentlessly "defames" anyone who dares to point out its own hypocrisy. While supposedly opposing ethnic segregation and ethnic superiority, the ADL supports Israel and international Zionism, which promotes not a vision of a "multi-cultural," "multi-ethnic" Israel, but of a "Jewish state." That state is openly dedicated to the advancement of the Jewish religion, culture, and even the genetic preservation of the Jewish people. This is, of course, the very opposite of the policies it proposes for our American nation. The new report exposes ADL links to organized crime, murder and death squads, a massive spy ring used to gather information on left and right wing groups, and the ADLs role in promoting thought crime laws and Internet censorship. With a budget of 60 million dollars a year, and with the help of a friendly media, the ADL has become the number one lobby for thought crime laws in America, said Vincent Edwards, National Community Relations Director for N.O.F.E.A.R.. Read this new report online by visiting www.davidduke.com or read the article dircectly at http://www.davidduke.com/adl/index.html. For more information contact N.O.F.E.A.R. National Community Relations Director, Vincent Edwards, at 504-626-7714 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The National Organization For European American Rights is Americans leading organization working against discrimination and for the rights and heritage of European Americans. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL Conspiracy
Amazing! The ADL has links to organized crime. They support Zionism, and are for the advancement of their own race and an "exclusive" Jewish State. WOW!! One has to ask, just what does the organization N.O.F.E.A.R. support and who are they in bed with? I guess that group just loves everybody and is out for the betterment of all men including non-Europeans and Jews? On Thu, 22 June 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: New report Behind the mask of Respectability exposes the hidden agenda of the Anti-Defamation League. New York, New York, June 21, 2000 A new report released this week by the National Organization For European American Rights (N.O.F.E.A.R.) entitled Behind the Mash of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brith exposes the ADL as the most dangerous organization in country working to end free speech in America. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short, presents itself as an organization against ethnic, racial or religious intolerance. Its very name suggests that it opposes "defamation." In reality, the Anti-Defamation League is an organization that supports Jewish ethnic and religious supremacy, and relentlessly "defames" anyone who dares to point out its own hypocrisy. While supposedly opposing ethnic segregation and ethnic superiority, the ADL supports Israel and international Zionism, which promotes not a vision of a "multi-cultural," "multi-ethnic" Israel, but of a "Jewish state." That state is openly dedicated to the advancement of the Jewish religion, culture, and even the genetic preservation of the Jewish people. This is, of course, the very opposite of the policies it proposes for our American nation. The new report exposes ADL links to organized crime, murder and death squads, a massive spy ring used to gather information on left and right wing groups, and the ADLs role in promoting thought crime laws and Internet censorship. With a budget of 60 million dollars a year, and with the help of a friendly media, the ADL has become the number one lobby for thought crime laws in America, said Vincent Edwards, National Community Relations Director for N.O.F.E.A.R.. Read this new report online by visiting www.davidduke.com or read the article dircectly at http://www.davidduke.com/adl/index.html. For more information contact N.O.F.E.A.R. National Community Relations Director, Vincent Edwards, at 504-626-7714 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The National Organization For European American Rights is Americans leading organization working against discrimination and for the rights and heritage of European Americans. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, in The Matrix "My God it's full of stars!" Dave Bowman, in 2001: A Space Odyssey ___ $1 million in prizes! 20 daily instant winners. AltaVista Rewards: Click here to win! http://shopping.altavista.com/e.sdc?e=3 ___ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial
Re: [CTRL] ADL Conspiracy
Let us examine the words Capitalism and Monopoly. To me Capitalism is to make a lot of money but does making a lot of money signify Monopoly? Communist make much of American Capitalism and would see Microsoft as the perfect example. Microsoft has made a lot of money by allowing the dissemination of education and thoughts! To me a monopoly the control of education and thoughts. Do you know that you can own as many American TV Broadcasting Companies as you want? You can own as many Newspapers and Magazines as you want. All three of the most popular trash rags at the checkout stand are owned by the same company. Our ideas / mindset molded by those that control education / new ideas / news. So who has the monopoly? *- the one that apparently "seems" to be making the most money or the ones that control the media. SO Microsoft for making money OR AOL / TimeWarner / Netscape / for control of the media? Is Capitalism or Monopoly the cuss word? American Capitalism OR Communist Monopoly? ThePiedPiper 22June2000 Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: New report Behind the mask of Respectability exposes the hidden agenda of the Anti-Defamation League. New York, New York, June 21, 2000 A new report released this week by the National Organization For European American Rights (N.O.F.E.A.R.) entitled Behind the Mash of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brith exposes the ADL as the most dangerous organization in country working to end free speech in America. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short, presents itself as an organization against ethnic, racial or religious intolerance. Its very name suggests that it opposes "defamation." In reality, the Anti-Defamation League is an organization that supports Jewish ethnic and religious supremacy, and relentlessly "defames" anyone who dares to point out its own hypocrisy. While supposedly opposing ethnic segregation and ethnic superiority, the ADL supports Israel and international Zionism, which promotes not a vision of a "multi-cultural," "multi-ethnic" Israel, but of a "Jewish state." That state is openly dedicated to the advancement of the Jewish religion, culture, and even the genetic preservation of the Jewish people. This is, of course, the very opposite of the policies it proposes for our American nation. The new report exposes ADL links to organized crime, murder and death squads, a massive spy ring used to gather information on left and right wing groups, and the ADLs role in promoting thought crime laws and Internet censorship. With a budget of 60 million dollars a year, and with the help of a friendly media, the ADL has become the number one lobby for thought crime laws in America, said Vincent Edwards, National Community Relations Director for N.O.F.E.A.R.. Read this new report online by visiting www.davidduke.com or read the article dircectly at http://www.davidduke.com/adl/index.html. For more information contact N.O.F.E.A.R. National Community Relations Director, Vincent Edwards, at 504-626-7714 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The National Organization For European American Rights is Americans leading organization working against discrimination and for the rights and heritage of European Americans. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson brbr My Grandfather told me
Re: [CTRL] ADL Conspiracy
ThePiedPiper, This Website may be of interest to you re. Microsoft and monopolies: The Microsoft Defense Site http://microsoft.aynrand.org/ Bard - Original Message - From: "ThePiedPiper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] ADL Conspiracy Let us examine the words Capitalism and Monopoly. To me Capitalism is to make a lot of money but does making a lot of money signify Monopoly? Communist make much of American Capitalism and would see Microsoft as the perfect example. Microsoft has made a lot of money by allowing the dissemination of education and thoughts! To me a monopoly the control of education and thoughts. Do you know that you can own as many American TV Broadcasting Companies as you want? You can own as many Newspapers and Magazines as you want. All three of the most popular trash rags at the checkout stand are owned by the same company. Our ideas / mindset molded by those that control education / new ideas / news. So who has the monopoly? *- the one that apparently "seems" to be making the most money or the ones that control the media. SO Microsoft for making money OR AOL / TimeWarner / Netscape / for control of the media? Is Capitalism or Monopoly the cuss word? American Capitalism OR Communist Monopoly? ThePiedPiper 22June2000 Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: New report "Behind the mask of Respectability" exposes the hidden agenda of the Anti-Defamation League. New York, New York, June 21, 2000 . A new report released this week by the National Organization For European American Rights (N.O.F.E.A.R.) entitled "Behind the Mash of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith" exposes the ADL as the most dangerous organization in country working to end free speech in America. The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short, presents itself as an organization against ethnic, racial or religious intolerance. Its very name suggests that it opposes "defamation." In reality, the Anti-Defamation League is an organization that supports Jewish ethnic and religious supremacy, and relentlessly "defames" anyone who dares to point out its own hypocrisy. While supposedly opposing ethnic segregation and ethnic superiority, the ADL supports Israel and international Zionism, which promotes not a vision of a "multi-cultural," "multi-ethnic" Israel, but of a "Jewish state." That state is openly dedicated to the advancement of the Jewish religion, culture, and even the genetic preservation of the Jewish people. This is, of course, the very opposite of the policies it proposes for our American nation. The new report exposes ADL links to organized crime, murder and death squads, a massive spy ring used to gather information on left and right wing groups, and the ADL's role in promoting thought crime laws and Internet censorship. "With a budget of 60 million dollars a year, and with the help of a friendly media, the ADL has become the number one lobby for thought crime laws in America," said Vincent Edwards, National Community Relations Director for N.O.F.E.A.R.. Read this new report online by visiting www.davidduke.com or read the article dircectly at http://www.davidduke.com/adl/index.html. For more information contact N.O.F.E.A.R. National Community Relations Director, Vincent Edwards, at 504-626-7714 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] . The National Organization For European American Rights is American's leading organization working against discrimination and for the rights and heritage of European Americans. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send emai
Re: [CTRL] ADL WACO CONNECTION (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- At 11:10 PM 9/13/99 -0400,Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- At 05:40 PM 9-13-1999 GMT, Sean wrote: this theory has one serious flaw [seems to me]: what on earth would the ADL have to gain from this? It's really quite simple. The ADL is in the business of "marginalizing fringe groups", particularly so-called "anti-semitic" groups. It uses this technique to build political "fences" around much larger groups, such as Catholics, Baptists, Germans, etc, in order to contain them and keep them on the reservation. One of the objects of the ADL's attacks is "the Christian right", whose offense in the ADL's eyes seems to be that they think of themselves as "Jews" to the point of believing that Israel is their homeland. The ADL's attacks serve as a warning to "mainstream" Christian denominations that if they don't scrupulously behave within the bounds that the ADL prescribes for them, the "mainstream" groups can be attacked, too. DBC DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ADL WACO CONNECTION
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:40 PM 9-13-1999 GMT, Sean wrote: this theory has one serious flaw [seems to me]: what on earth would the ADL have to gain from this? According to Internet reports: Since they were Christian 'Jews' ('Davidians' are Jews) -- and therefore an especially HATED 'Christian Identity' church -- moving to Israel was obviously 100% forbidden by both the Israeli authorities, and the predictably- outraged Orthodox Jews who hold the balance of power. .. Now THAT'S interesting AND it leads me to speculate on some other things. I have involved myself in several online discussion groups on various religions including Judaism and Christianity [disclaimer: more of interest than anything - I have also been on pagan lists]. One thing I continually got flamed about is STRESSING the fact that Jesus [Yeheshua?] was a DEVOUT Jew. As such he would accurately acuse modern Christianity as heresy, blasphemy, and methinks would not want any part in his own deification. According to the very religion that he devoted himself to, it is tantamount to hubris. As a devout Judaic WORSHIPPER, how could he spiritually lead ANYONE being so self-centered as to worship himself. If one argues that he did not worship himself [as many Christians do while not even realizing it] but worshipped his father, then it would be ancestor worship and would put him in the same boat as many pagans [we begin to see why ANY reasonable scrutiny of doctrines threatens ANY orthodoxy]. So an intelligent follower of Jesus, IMHO, could not ascribe to anything but some form of Judaism, potentially recognizing Jesus as a prophet [let's not get into the hiearchy of prophets, i.e. Jesus was MORE prophetic than Muhammad, etc.]. All of the afore mentioned would be a threat to orthodox Judaism, the dominant brands of Christianity that deny their Judaic/Pagan merger history [mediated by Emperor Constantine in the 4th century]. Not only that, but it would be a threat to much of the foundation of what we call HIStory [who's story?]. In fact, given that religious doctrines are perhaps the thing that is most fiercely hammered into the heads of the masses, can one doubt that some controling element deems such to be necessary to the maintenance of its own position? Such things would be a major threat to the cornerstone of society as we know it - which is a complex maze of taught habits that make it easy for the few to control the many. If the most fiercely hammered doctrines society has taught us are IGNORED by people, those people can be deemed capable of what to the controllers would be a threat and to the pioneering - merely open-minded. If such a group of people actually had the audacity to arm themselves with the knowledge of the entire community in which they were nestled and not, as a result, make the community feel in the least bit threatened, controllers would say that they are getting away with too much. A statement must be made to that community. As well, a statement must be made to ANY that would have the audacity to believe as they wish, assume the prerogative of being able to defend themselves, and, worst of all, actually get people to listen. Obviously, the feds [or someone above the feds?] felt that to be that un-orthodox AND to have the tolerance, and in some cases - admiration, of a whole typically conservative community that the Davidians had far too much charisma for their own good. All it takes to tell such would-be seekers to knock it off would be to burn a bunch of them alive. Can you say WITCH HUNT? Can you say BURN THEM AT THE STAKE? There are a whole slew of power brokering elements in the world that would feel the need to stamp out such naughtiness. (The Davidians' property was purchased in early 1959 by Benjamin Roden, the founder of the Branch Davidians. The Israeli property remained the property of the church when Koresh assumed leadership.) CAN and ADL proved their worth on Waco Holocaust day, but it 'appears' they soon dissolved the Cult Awareness Network, out of fear they would all be implicated in a court of law. (Scientology's efforts may? also be partly responsible.) There was also the PROMIS software biz -- allegedly THE target of the entire Waco Assault. Vince Foster was deeply involved in both the Waco Crisis and Systematics' PROMIS software. Systematics had Israeli subsidiaries -- Boston Systematics and Israeli Systematics... (From Conspiracy Nation 4.82: "The ramifications of the Systematics story could bring down the Clinton presidency. Just prior to Foster's death, Hillary reportedly told Foster that his spying for Israel was known; that he was about to be indicted on charges bordering on treason, making him another Jonathan Pollard.") And another alleged issue:
Re: [CTRL] ADL WACO CONNECTION (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Sean McDougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] this theory has one serious flaw [seems to me]: what on earth would the ADL have to gain from this? Well, a serious conspiratorialist might argue that mad killer Jews need no specific reason, they just do it out of general principles. Or that ADL saw Koresh as a serious challenge, somehow. Or that the whole Waco affair was a mind-control and siege-and-destroy exercise, conducted to train/desensitize the participants. Or some other such nonsense. Hey, you want coherence here? G'z... Ric "if it wasn't for bad brains, I wouldn't have no brains at all" Carter DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ADL WACO CONNECTION (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 Subj: ADL WACO CONNECTION:ADL FIRMLY LINKED to WACO TRAGEDY http://www.waco93.com TELL EVERYONE to RENT IT, SHARE IT COMMUNIQUE #2184 - THIS OTHER DOCUMENTS to COME regarding the ADL WACO CONNECTION can be found in http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/ADL.WACO ADL FIRMLY LINKED to WACO TRAGEDY - Front Page of May 17, 1993 SPOTLIGHT VOLUME XIX Number 20 The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith can take credit for the holocaust in Waco, Texas that resulted in the slaughter (immolation) of nearly one hundred men women and children. Herb Brin, a leading backer of the ADL and publisher of Heritage, a newspaper which serves the Jewish community in Los Angeles, has let the cat out of the bag. In a signed headline story which appeared in the Arpil 16 edition of his newspaper, Brin inadvertently exposed the role that the ADL played in helping engineer the BATF/FBI/DELTA FORCE/BRITISH SAS slaughter at the Branch Davidian church in Waco. In an article hailing the ADL's now-infamous, once-secret international spy network, Brin stated: "U.S. and Texas authorities have precise documentation (from ADL of course) on the Branch Davidian cult in Waco and how it operated in the past." Brin's amazing revelation (ostensibly designed to praise the ADL's activities) brings to light the truth about the propaganda and disinformation about the beleagured religious sect. In short, it was the ADL that essentially tricked the federal authorities into conducting the operation that resulted in the tragedy. What's more, the SPOTLIGHT has learned the so-called Cult Awareness Network (CAN) which also prodded the assault on the Branch Davidians is closely connected to the ADL. (Some sources, in fact, believe that CAN is, in fact, an ADL-funded front operation. There is no question, however, that CAN does operate as such.) In any case, the American public owes a great debt to Herb Brin, an admitted ADL informant himself. Thanks to Brin the truth about the ADL's intervention [at the outset BEFORE the raid]] in the Branch Davidian affair is now part of the public record. A final note: in the same article where he bragged of the ADL's campaign against the religious sect, Brin noted that, as a consequence of the ADL's involvement in the San Francisco scandal, Liberty Lobby was in what he called its "finest hour." [ADL was caught in a massive spying scandal using SF POLICE files] [Liberty Lobby, parent of the SPOTLIGHT newspaper, exposed this scandal, as did all mainstream papers.] The ADL is certainly not in its finest hour, this especially since more than a few people have suggested that the very reason why David Koresh and the Branch Davidian sect were subjected to the fiery holocaust that brought the standoff in Waco to an end is because the ADL did not want the Branch Davidians to come out alive. Had Koresh and his followers gone to trial (which is very much apparently what they desired in order that they could tell their side of the story), the course of legal discovery would have revealed the way that the ADL had been prodding action by the FBI and the BATF. This would have exposed the ADL's criminal methods and its covert spy operations even further at a time when the outfit is already under fire. Thus it was necessary that the Branch Davidians be exterminated. A lucky few did survive which means that, ultimately, the truth may come out. This and other materials exposing the ADL WACO CONNECTION can be found at http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/ADL.WACO If you have material that either supports or refutes the ADL WACO CONNECTION, please send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We only want the truth... The SPOTLIGHT NEWSPAPER is under heavy fire from the ADL, visit their web page and call them to see how you can help http://www.spotlight.org Your comments requested: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- END . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] ADL Waco.
-Caveat Lector- A SUBSIDIARY OF THE ADL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HOLOCAUST AT WACO National Alliance Main Page A HREF="http://www.natvan.com"http://www.natvan.com/A The ADL: America's Greatest Enemy Welcome to American Dissident Voices. I'm Kevin Alfred Strom. Did you know that there is a secret espionage and "dirty tricks" agency operating with impunity in communities across the United States, spying and maintaining files on thousands of ordinary Americans, an organization which is not even a part of the U.S. government? Did you know that a former top official of this group has stated in sworn courtroom testimony that this organization is actually an agent of a foreign government, the government of Israel? Did you know that one of the biggest stories of this year, which has been downplayed by most, though not all, of the establishment media, is the discovery of thousands of stolen police intelligence documents and supposedly confidential government data on thousands of Americans in the files of this nefarious group? This un-American and anti-American espionage agency for a foreign government, and international conspirator against our nation and our people's freedom is officially known as the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short. The ADL was founded in 1913 as an adjunct to the international Jewish fraternal order and secret society, the "B'nai B'rith," whose name, translated literally from Hebrew means "sons of the cut" - referring to circumcision - which is a figure of speech usually interpreted as meaning "Sons of the Covenant." While posing as a public-spirited "civil rights" group, they have been working for decades to disarm law-abiding Americans, to control our sources of news and other information, and enslave us under a totalitarian world government which many have come to call the "New World Order." They do this through overt and covert propaganda, the creation of humanitarian-sounding front groups secretly controlled by the ADL, by the conducting of brainwashing sessions called "sensitivity-training" for members of our police forces, by the production and introduction into the public schools of ADL propaganda as "textbooks" or "resource material for teachers," and by their cozy relationship with the controlled media, which routinely print and broadcast ADL propaganda releases as so-called "news." Now it is apparent that the section of the ADL that they call their "Fact-Finding" division has been engaging in illegal espionage against American citizens on a scale undreamt of by the KGB. And, ladies and gentlemen, my friends - they've just been caught in the act. One of the top ADL spies in this country, Mr. Roy Bullock, a homosexual from San Francisco posing as an "art dealer" whose specialty was the infiltration of patriotic, Arab-American, and other organizations on behalf of the ADL, has been found to have in his possession illegally obtained data, stolen from police and other confidential government files; data that was also discovered in the files of the ADL itself when police recently raided ADL headquarters in San Francisco and Los Angeles. We and other patriots have been telling you for many years that the ADL was the greatest enemy of American's freedom and independence - a far greater enemy than the KGB ever was. Now, at long last, a few brave and, as yet, lonely, journalists from the establishment media have broken their decades-long silence on this dangerous group, triggered by the police investigation of stolen files that led to Roy Bullock and the ADL. I often criticize the establishment media on this program, and I think they, in general, richly deserve the appellation "controlled media," as any reader of our research report, Who Rules America well knows. But let me now give credit where credit is due, especially to the reporters at the Los Angeles Times and ABC News, who put their careers on the line to report some of the grisly truth about an organization which acts as though it is untouchable and above the law. This is a story that every American needs to hear. It may well be the most important story I've ever covered on American Dissident Voices. Let's begin this amazing story with an article from the Los Angeles Times of 9th April, 1993, by Richard C. Paddock: "Dateline San Francisco: Police on Thursday served search warrants on the Anti-Defamation League here and in Los Angeles, seizing evidence of a nationwide intelligence network accused of keeping files on more than 950 political groups, newspapers, and labor unions and as many as 12,000 people. "Describing the spy operations in great detail, San Francisco authorities simultaneously released voluminous documents telling how operatives of the Anti-Defamation League searched through trash and infiltrated organizations to gather intelligence an Arab-American, right-wing, and what they called "pinko" organizations "...Police allege that the organization maintains undercover
[CTRL] ADL
THIS ISRAELI AGENT HAS TRIED TO USED BLACKS IN CONFRONTATIONS WITH PATRIOTIC AMERICANS I hope you realize that these ridicule routines, and attempts at demoniztion following your posts are the work of the ADL. National Alliance Main Page http://www.natvan.com The ADL: America's Greatest Enemy Welcome to American Dissident Voices. I'm Kevin Alfred Strom. Did you know that there is a secret espionage and "dirty tricks" agency operating with impunity in communities across the United States, spying and maintaining files on thousands of ordinary Americans, an organization which is not even a part of the U.S. government? Did you know that a former top official of this group has stated in sworn courtroom testimony that this organization is actually an agent of a foreign government, the government of Israel? Did you know that one of the biggest stories of this year, which has been downplayed by most, though not all, of the establishment media, is the discovery of thousands of stolen police intelligence documents and supposedly confidential government data on thousands of Americans in the files of this nefarious group? This un-American and anti-American espionage agency for a foreign government, and international conspirator against our nation and our people's freedom is officially known as the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, or ADL for short. The ADL was founded in 1913 as an adjunct to the international Jewish fraternal order and secret society, the "B'nai B'rith," whose name, translated literally from Hebrew means "sons of the cut" - referring to circumcision - which is a figure of speech usually interpreted as meaning "Sons of the Covenant." While posing as a public-spirited "civil rights" group, they have been working for decades to disarm law-abiding Americans, to control our sources of news and other information, and enslave us under a totalitarian world government which many have come to call the "New World Order." They do this through overt and covert propaganda, the creation of humanitarian-sounding front groups secretly controlled by the ADL, by the conducting of brainwashing sessions called "sensitivity-training" for members of our police forces, by the production and introduction into the public schools of ADL propaganda as "textbooks" or "resource material for teachers," and by their cozy relationship with the controlled media, which routinely print and broadcast ADL propaganda releases as so-called "news." Now it is apparent that the section of the ADL that they call their "Fact-Finding" division has been engaging in illegal espionage against American citizens on a scale undreamt of by the KGB. And, ladies and gentlemen, my friends - they've just been caught in the act. One of the top ADL spies in this country, Mr. Roy Bullock, a homosexual from San Francisco posing as an "art dealer" whose specialty was the infiltration of patriotic, Arab-American, and other organizations on behalf of the ADL, has been found to have in his possession illegally obtained data, stolen from police and other confidential government files; data that was also discovered in the files of the ADL itself when police recently raided ADL headquarters in San Francisco and Los Angeles. We and other patriots have been telling you for many years that the ADL was the greatest enemy of American's freedom and independence - a far greater enemy than the KGB ever was. Now, at long last, a few brave and, as yet, lonely, journalists from the establishment media have broken their decades-long silence on this dangerous group, triggered by the police investigation of stolen files that led to Roy Bullock and the ADL. I often criticize the establishment media on this program, and I think they, in general, richly deserve the appellation "controlled media," as any reader of our research report, Who Rules America well knows. But let me now give credit where credit is due, especially to the reporters at the Los Angeles Times and ABC News, who put their careers on the line to report some of the grisly truth about an organization which acts as though it is untouchable and above the law. This is a story that every American needs to hear. It may well be the most important story I've ever covered on American Dissident Voices. Let's begin this amazing story with an article from the Los Angeles Times of 9th April, 1993, by Richard C. Paddock: "Dateline San Francisco: Police on Thursday served search warrants on the Anti-Defamation League here and in Los Angeles, seizing evidence of a nationwide intelligence network accused of keeping files on more than 950 political groups, newspapers, and labor unions and as many as 12,000 people. "Describing the spy operations in great detail, San Francisco authorities simultaneously released voluminous documents telling how operatives of the Anti-Defamation League searched through trash and infiltrated organizations to gather intelligence an Arab-American, right-wing, and what they
[CTRL] ADL fights the fingerprint!
-Caveat Lector- SCAN THIS NEWS 5/14/99 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Today, the Anti-Defamation League, champions in the fight against anti-semitism, racism and bigotry in the effort too secure justice and fair treatment for all people, have gone on record for the first time in officially opposing the Georgia Driver's License Fingerprinting statute. The ADL joins a growing list of diverse newspapers and organizations who oppose fingerprinting for driver's licenses including the ACLU, SCLC, Christian Coalition, Eagle Forum, Marietta Daily Journal, Augusta Chronicle, Athens Daily News/Banner Herald, Cartersville Daily Tribune News, Valdosta Daily Times, Tifton Gazette and others. In a letter from Southeast Region Director, Jay Kaiman, the ADL urges "Repeal of the Georgia Driver's License Fingerprinting statute and urge[s] Governor Roy E. Barnes to see that this objective is achieved." Fingerprinting was "sold" to the legislature under the context of stopping fraud, but according to figures supplied by Public Safety, there have been only 142 arrests in 2 ½ years as a result of an individual fraudulently trying to get a driver's license. In fact, Driver License Examiners do not have the power to make an arrest. Of all the states, Minnesota uses the most advanced fraud resistant features (like Georgia it is a Polaroid system) and does not employ any biometrics (e.g. fingerprint). Interestingly, California does requires a fingerprint, but has one of the highest fraud rates in the nation (although practically negligible). The Governor has the power by Executive Order to instruct Public Safety to stop fingerprinting. ### end ### Don't believe anything you read on the Net unless: 1) you can confirm it with another source, and/or 2) it is consistent with what you already know to be true. Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the free Scan This News newsletter, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and type "subscribe scan" in the BODY. Or, to be removed type "unsubscribe scan" in the message BODY. For additional instructions see www.efga.org/about/maillist.html --- "Scan This News" is Sponsored by S.C.A.N. Host of the "FIGHT THE FINGERPRINT!" web page: www.networkusa.org/fingerprint.shtml == ~~ "This is just my opinion. I could be wrong." Dennis Miller http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 ~~ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om