Re: [CTRL] CLINTON AND GAS PRICES - A CURIOUS COINCIDENCE?

2000-03-15 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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 Hello Joshua2:
 A few questions:
 Do you think it is pure coincidence that
 gasoline prices (energy prices) declined for 7 months
 leading up to the the Impeachment and Senate trial
 of Bill Clinton?

I don't think that's related to the impeachment. Petroleum
prices are not moved by many things. Supply, demand, war.

National politics, even of the United States, is irrelevant.
All major politicians in the advanced countries are pro oil.
They have to be.

The Republicans are the Big Oil party.

 Is it pure coincidence that the lowest gasoline prices
 ever recorded by the Dept. of Energy came at
 exactly the same time as the Senate trial?

Yes, I believe it is. The world was awash in oil. It took
a long time to pump the world market that full, and it
takes a long time to dry it up. The producers of OPEC simply
decided to cut back production because they weren't making
much money, and were depleting their own sources.

 Is it pure coincidence that gas prices started
 increasing just 2 weeks after the Senate trial?

See above.

 Remember that interest rates, which are controlled
 by the Federal Reserve, were also at 30 year lows
 at this same time.

 The two most important variables which greatly
 affect our national economy are:
 Interest Rates and Energy Prices.

 So both of these were at historic lows and
 the economy was booming as never before
 during Clinton's impeachment.

So are you proposing that all those different countries in
OPEC intentionaly lost money in order to save Clinton's
sorry ass? If this is what you mean, then I don't buy it.

 A large percentage of Americans did not
 want to see Clinton removed from Office,
 fearing it might disturb "the good times".

The President has almost nothing to do with the economy.
If the economy is good they take credit for it. If it's
not, they tell you the truth and shift the blame to a rival
or an enemy.

 So it was easy for Congress to let Clinton
 off the hook with so many voters making
 money in a great stock market.

Sorry, Congress didn't let him off the hook. The Senate did.
Here's why. Even though they couldn't stand him they could
not allow the removal of a President for something they all do
because it could also happen to their guy when a Republican
wins the office.

The American Presidency is TOO EXPENSIVE to buy to let any
group, even Congress, push out a particular elite's front
man.

The Senate did what the Founding Finaglers intended them to
do. Protect the monopoly of the Rich over the government and
maintain the status quo.

 Was all of this just Clinton's "good fortune"?
 Maybe so.
 Maybe so.

 Regards to All
 Nakano

No it was not. The fix was in before the Senate trial started.
Two days before the beginning of the Senate trial James Carville
went to Israel to get the government there out of the hands of
Netanyahu who was no longer playing ball with the NWO's plan for
the Mid East, and into the hands of Labor who has always been an
American puppet. Carville went to organize Barak's campaign.

James ( the snake ) Carville is Clinton's # 1 strategist and spin
doctor. There is NO WAY that Carville would have left Clinton to
face a real trial. The fix was in and all the players knew it.

The sham we saw on television was just for show so the stupid,
stupid public could avoid the fact that the Corporate and Financial
Elites are not bound by law or the Constitution.

This had nothing to do with oil.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] CLINTON AND GAS PRICES - A CURIOUS COINCIDENCE?

2000-03-13 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 03/12/2000 1:41:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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 Just 13 months ago, we had the lowest gasoline
 prices in history. According to U.S. Dept. of Energy
 figures, the National Average Price for a gallon of
 Unleaded Regular was 90.7 cents. (When adjusted
 for inflation, this is the lowest gas price the DOE
 has recorded since reporting began in 1949. 

There is some evidence that the oil companies are moving prices up and down
for whatever political purpose they espouse at the time.  The IPAA put out a
press release in Dec l999 which was entitled "IPAA Warns Administration:
Forcing Down World Oil Prices Will Damage U.S. Producers."  They also had
issued papers condeming Bradley, Gore, and McCain as nominees for the
presidency.  That leave George W. as their candidate.  A headline in our
paper just a few days ago, said that the Republicans were welcoming the
higher oil prices, because they felt it would make voters angry with the
present administration and send votes to the Republican candidates or keep
voters away from the polls entirely which the Republican party also favors.
Isn't it interesting to note how right Mr. Nader is when he says that
corporations are behind our every move.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] CLINTON AND GAS PRICES - A CURIOUS COINCIDENCE?

2000-03-13 Thread Alamaine

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I heard on CNN this AM (3-13-00) that the 'real' price of the most expensive
gasoline would have been several years ago, costing around $2.60 a gallon in
Y2K $$$, making today's (Y2K) $1.50 something a gallon relatively cheap.
Notice also every President who gets into trouble with the Senate gets an oil
problem.  True, U.S. corporations may be involved in some of this shenanigans
but it is likely that them furreners have a little to do with the prodding as
well.  The global families squabble.  Buy small cars/carpool, support/demand
public transportation, reduce the need for oil, and the myriad lessons we
learned (but never applied) a quarter century ago can go a long way to making
us a little more independent.  This is the issue for the 21st Century, and
we've still got 9.5 months to put the plans into effect before that century
starts.   AER

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  Just 13 months ago, we had the lowest gasoline
  prices in history. According to U.S. Dept. of Energy
  figures, the National Average Price for a gallon of
  Unleaded Regular was 90.7 cents. (When adjusted
  for inflation, this is the lowest gas price the DOE
  has recorded since reporting began in 1949. 

 There is some evidence that the oil companies are moving prices up and down for
 whatever political purpose they espouse at the time.  The IPAA put out a press
 release in Dec l999 which was entitled "IPAA Warns Administration: Forcing Down
 World Oil Prices Will Damage U.S. Producers."  They also had issued papers
 condeming Bradley, Gore, and McCain as nominees for the presidency.  That leave
 George W. as their candidate.  A headline in our paper just a few days ago, said
 that the Republicans were welcoming the higher oil prices, because they felt it
 would make voters angry with the present administration and send votes to the
 Republican candidates or keep voters away from the polls entirely which the
 Republican party also favors. Isn't it interesting to note how right Mr. Nader
 is when he says that corporations are behind our every move.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] CLINTON AND GAS PRICES - A CURIOUS COINCIDENCE?

2000-03-13 Thread Dana Brown

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Re: [CTRL] CLINTON AND GAS PRICES - A CURIOUS COINCIDENCE?

2000-03-12 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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"[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:

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 Just 13 months ago, we had the lowest gasoline
 prices in history. According to U.S. Dept. of Energy
 figures, the National Average Price for a gallon of
 Unleaded Regular was 90.7 cents. (When adjusted
 for inflation, this is the lowest gas price the DOE
 has recorded since reporting began in 1949.

 Here's the point.
 The U.S. Senate acquitted Bill Clinton of the Impeachment
 charges on February 12, 1999.  This is the very same time
 that gas prices hit the all-time low!
 Within 2 weeks after Clinton was acquitted, gas prices
 started climbing...and they have continued to climb to
 where they are today.  The latest DOE Reports gives
 the National Average Price for Unleaded Regular as
 $1.50 per gallon.
 Bill Clinton was acquitted 60 cents ago!

 6 months before Clinton's impeachment, the average
 price per gallon was $1.07.
 The price decreased 17 cents per gallon leading up to
 the impeachment vote in the Senate.
 The price was 90.7 cents when the Senate acquitted him.
 It has gone up 60 cents a gallon since then.

 THAT'S  A  MIGHTY  BIG  COINCIDENCE  ISN'T  IT?

 Cheap energy prices were one of the main reasons our
 National Economy has been so good.
 A lot of people in this country did not want to see Clinton
 removed from Office because of the good economy.

 U.S. Dept. of Energy Reports:
 RETAIL GASOLINE (Self Service Prices per Gallon, Including Taxes)
 National Price - Regular Grade Average - 1998 -99

   06/08/981.075   (6 months before Impeachment voted in the House of Rep)
   12/14/980.945   (House of Representatives votes to Impeach)
   12/28/980.937
   02/01/990.929
   02/22/990.907   (Senate acquits Clinton on Feb. 12, 2000)
   03/08/990.921
   03/15/990.977
   03/29/991.082
   04/12/991.140
   08/16/991.236
   11/29/991.274
   01/24/001.315   (National Price - Regular Grade Average - 2000)
   02/28/001.421
   03/06/001.50   (Latest DOE Figures available)

 Source: Form EIA-878 "Motor Gasoline Price Survey"
 For additional information please contact the Energy Information
 Administration's
 National Energy Information Center at (202) 586-8800.

   Regards to All,
  Nakano

I don't see any conection between the impeachment and price hikes.
This is a very strained theory.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] CLINTON AND GAS PRICES - A CURIOUS COINCIDENCE?

2000-03-12 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hello Joshua2:
A few questions:
Do you think it is pure coincidence that
gasoline prices (energy prices) declined for 7 months
leading up to the the Impeachment and Senate trial
of Bill Clinton?
Is it pure coincidence that the lowest gasoline prices
ever recorded by the Dept. of Energy came at
exactly the same time as the Senate trial?
Is it pure coincidence that gas prices started
increasing just 2 weeks after the Senate trial?

Remember that interest rates, which are controlled
by the Federal Reserve, were also at 30 year lows
at this same time.

The two most important variables which greatly
affect our national economy are:
Interest Rates and Energy Prices.

So both of these were at historic lows and
the economy was booming as never before
during Clinton's impeachment.
A large percentage of Americans did not
want to see Clinton removed from Office,
fearing it might disturb "the good times".
So it was easy for Congress to let Clinton
off the hook with so many voters making
money in a great stock market.

Was all of this just Clinton's "good fortune"?
Maybe so.
Maybe so.

Regards to All
Nakano

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[CTRL] CLINTON AND GAS PRICES - A CURIOUS COINCIDENCE?

2000-03-12 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Just 13 months ago, we had the lowest gasoline
prices in history. According to U.S. Dept. of Energy
figures, the National Average Price for a gallon of
Unleaded Regular was 90.7 cents. (When adjusted
for inflation, this is the lowest gas price the DOE
has recorded since reporting began in 1949.

Here's the point.
The U.S. Senate acquitted Bill Clinton of the Impeachment
charges on February 12, 1999.  This is the very same time
that gas prices hit the all-time low!
Within 2 weeks after Clinton was acquitted, gas prices
started climbing...and they have continued to climb to
where they are today.  The latest DOE Reports gives
the National Average Price for Unleaded Regular as
$1.50 per gallon.
Bill Clinton was acquitted 60 cents ago!

6 months before Clinton's impeachment, the average
price per gallon was $1.07.
The price decreased 17 cents per gallon leading up to
the impeachment vote in the Senate.
The price was 90.7 cents when the Senate acquitted him.
It has gone up 60 cents a gallon since then.

THAT'S  A  MIGHTY  BIG  COINCIDENCE  ISN'T  IT?

Cheap energy prices were one of the main reasons our
National Economy has been so good.
A lot of people in this country did not want to see Clinton
removed from Office because of the good economy.

U.S. Dept. of Energy Reports:
RETAIL GASOLINE (Self Service Prices per Gallon, Including Taxes)
National Price - Regular Grade Average - 1998 -99

  06/08/981.075   (6 months before Impeachment voted in the House of Rep)
  12/14/980.945   (House of Representatives votes to Impeach)
  12/28/980.937
  02/01/990.929
  02/22/990.907   (Senate acquits Clinton on Feb. 12, 2000)
  03/08/990.921
  03/15/990.977
  03/29/991.082
  04/12/991.140
  08/16/991.236
  11/29/991.274
  01/24/001.315   (National Price - Regular Grade Average - 2000)
  02/28/001.421
  03/06/001.50   (Latest DOE Figures available)

Source: Form EIA-878 "Motor Gasoline Price Survey"
For additional information please contact the Energy Information
Administration's
National Energy Information Center at (202) 586-8800.

  Regards to All,
 Nakano

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